I don't particularly like that form, but she is one of my favorite wushu masters. If she wasn't married, I would like to propose to her and make little wushu babies.
I'm not really sure what you mean. I am aware of who Jet Li's coach was (Wu Bin) and I was only stating the name of the master who taught him Fanzi Quan, which is a traditional style. Though his traditional training was an augmentation of his wushu training, it is only mentoned to express the neccesity of learning traditional styles in Wushu from the 70's, 80's and 90's.
Zhao Changjun was a Cha Quan master before he competed and Yuan Wenqing also studied Cha Quan and Chen Style Taijiquan
@wushu297 "Though his traditional training was an augmentation of his wushu training, it is only mentoned to express the neccesity of learning traditional styles"
I would argue completely to the contrary. The communist govt of China was force converting that Traditionalists augment to teach the contemporary style of sport-Wu shu. Thus the term "coach". How old was Jet Li here? (youtube vid)
You can argue whatever you feel like arguing but regardless of what your partisan belief is, the best wushu athletes of the 70's, 80's and 90's were also trained traditionally, often before they began competing in the sport (again, Zhao Changjun, Yuan Wenqing, Jiang Bangjun, the list is very long.)
I'm fascinated by people who feel they are benefiting others by arguing a partisan belief they were taught by someone else. Notice how there is no Nandu on my channel. Wonder why?
@wushu297 I totally agree about training in Traditional in combination with wushu and tai chi. I did this myself. Wushu training drastically improves certain core movements and leg work while traditional handles the more details and upper body movements. Tai chi increases fluidity, breathing, application and puts a microscope on the details.
changquan is translated to long fist. It's a style of wushu just like nanquan (southern fist). The style incorporates alot of long range attacks and acrobatic kicks which is why it is called long fist.
"Wu Shu" translates as "War Art". But the term "Wu Shu", semantically speaking, is a performance art. It is a generic form of Chinese Martial Arts which takes traditional Gung-Fu (Chang Chuan being the most exploited) and extending it's boundaries beyond it's intended form. It's the contemporary form and "flashdance" of todays touring "Shoalin Monks".
Don't get me wrong. The Bejing Wu Shu Troupe (Jet Li...et al) are phenomenal performers. But this is Not traditional Gung-Fu.
Gong fu translates as a skill that with persistent effort is mastered and it is not exclusive the martial arts. the reason I upload videos from the pre-nandu era of wushu is that the practitioners also mastered traditional styles as specialties to augment their competition "flavor."
Nobody is calling this traditional gongfu, but you'll find that the consistent champions of wushu (yuan wenqing, zhao changjun and jet li) all mastered a traditional style.
Yes, I am quite familiar with the translatory term for "Gong fu". 1997 being "pre-nandu" is still awfully recent in my book, and there is a difference in their performances vs the late 70's early 80's era to which I am more acclimated with.
Not calling it "traditional gongfu" is still a question of semantics when one still considers the traveling so-called "Shaolin Monks" as legit.
"Loads Of B.S." Yes indeed...Sorry to break it to you, but your Michael Jackson style of Martial Arts is nothing but the dream of a paper tiger. Contemporary "Wu Shu" looks great as a dance...but has no value in combat. When you grow up in the next 174 years, you might get a hold of that concept. Jet Li and the Beijing boys and girls are not fighters. And yes, Santa Claus is also myth.
OK...Who was Jet Li's sifu who taught him Fanzi Quan. I also understand that he also learned a "style" called Bagua who was his sifu for that entire system. I am also aware that he studied Tai-ji...Who was the traditional sifu who taught him that? He also knew Xing-Yi and Tang Lang Chuan...who were his respective sifus who taught him these traditional systems?????
Honestly I do not know who taught Jet Li Bagua, Taijiquan, Xing Yi or Tang Langquan, nor was I aware that he learned these styles outside of his movie portrayals of them. Perhaps you could answer that question better than I.
The master who taught him Fanzi Quan was Ma Xiande, the PREMIER Hui muslim gongfu expert of his generation. Traditional to the core, and whom players such as Yuan Wenqing and Zhao Changjun have also revered.
Hahahahaha you cling sooooo desperately to what you have read in many books or were taught by some wannabe traditionalist. Even Bruce Lee said traditional Kung Fu was wasteful and useless? Hahaha can you show me one application in that Choy lee fut video you favorited?
Seems like if he added some jump kicks it would look alot like wushu, but alas, jump kicks and awesomeness are anti tradition so we shouldn't practice it. BWHAHAHAHA
Changquan isn't anything specific. There are many traditional styles from Shaolin to Chen style Taijiquan that all have a changquan set in their curriculum. The Chang Quan presented here is a modern one created from different traditional styles for the sake of competition.
I was waiting for the big finish at the end of the run or sprint or whatever it's called. Felt a little disappointed :( Where are the tornado kicks? The jumping 3 way kicks? Bleh
Whatever. Search up "Joel Denis Moon Moo" or "Suska Juche" that is my personal opinion of precision, power and accuracy. Once again, my personal opinion, i just dont see it the same way you do. I personally see alot of running about and moving with not much bone breaking technique. Must be because I dont study that art that i cant see it eh?
well..this is wushu...its really fast...but...its not so strong..if we talk about "power"...!!!!...theres the kung fu....that its real different...real strong..real accuarcy..speed.....power!!!.
and about the bone breaking techiniques...well...that depends a lot a bout the style...
and man...some times..there ara guys that doesnt need to do a tornado kick to prove they can do it...some times...you only need to see how they move..like this guy..look for "WuDang8 Immortal Staff "...
I have a question, is wushu bodybuilding? I'm a bit confused (as I know very very little), but to me she does not seem to have a huge body, in fact, she seems slim and fit, the opposite of body building... so, back to my question...
Nope wushu isnt bodybuilding at all...Wushu is just chinese martial arts, and in modern times has come to be a sport. Bodybuilding is about building your muscles up and lowering your fat levels to extremely low proportions in order to see muscles under the skin. I think both are wushu and bodybuilding are artistic. But to be honest a bodybuilder is going to have stronger legs than a wushu practitioner. Olympic weightlifters have the strongest legs in the world though, id say
What i mean to say is that with the exception of a couple of moves, all the non-jump techniques are actually very practical, It's just a matter of analyzing them correctly, that's all.
then,i just try to said that wushu have more run and high jumps like gymnastic, in comparison with other very traditional styles of kung fu, that's all
Well,just keep in mind that the contemporary forms are grounded in tradition, and that 95% of the techniques shown in there do have some practical application.
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but wushu it's not so traditional at all, in comparison with other styles of kung fu, and yes i know that 100% of move are techniques, but they are like a dancing and acrobacy only
Despite this... er ji jiao is basic ji ben gong in mantis as well... and used to kick the chin and cause neck injury due to that. er ji jiao. But I would use a low kick in its place...
HauZhi Hua I think is definitely better.. though I'm biased cuz I think eighties wushu is general is better. Has anyone seen "This is Kung Fu"? The english subbs keep calling HauZhi Hua 'Chak' hahahahaaaaa
Bitch
2woem 4 months ago
Amazing
dinoodlez3 6 months ago
I don't particularly like that form, but she is one of my favorite wushu masters. If she wasn't married, I would like to propose to her and make little wushu babies.
zigzigerblat 11 months ago
@zigzigerblat
lmao @ "wushu babies".
defiantwon33 9 months ago
@defiantwon33 For real yo!
zigzigerblat 9 months ago
nonono, this is all fake, it's some wicked CGI for sure, you cannot be that good, it's not human.
youngmasters 1 year ago
So precise and perfect O.O......
The 7 people that disliked this realized this is well beyond their realm of possibility... I wouldn't blame them.
wushupants 1 year ago
i think im in love.......
Dienamo1 1 year ago
@Dienamo1 I agree, TOTALLY <3
lauragzz07 6 months ago
wow she is amazing, she's soo much better than me T.T
Kr4zyVi3tBo1 1 year ago
This martial art looks awesome as hell, especially at about 0:49 when she apparently turns into a human blender for the next ten seconds.
giygasattack 1 year ago
i think i am in love....
megatron0357 1 year ago
@wushu297
I think you are just as aware as I am, that Jet Li's primary "sifu" was "coach" Wu Bin before Jet Li "retired" before the age of 18.
Regarding Master "Ma Xiande" (or Xianda), was this the style he taught Jet Li
as his "coach" or "sifu"?
Ma Style Tongbei Fanzi quan - Zhanzhuang Fan
TeetMauLau 2 years ago
I'm not really sure what you mean. I am aware of who Jet Li's coach was (Wu Bin) and I was only stating the name of the master who taught him Fanzi Quan, which is a traditional style. Though his traditional training was an augmentation of his wushu training, it is only mentoned to express the neccesity of learning traditional styles in Wushu from the 70's, 80's and 90's.
Zhao Changjun was a Cha Quan master before he competed and Yuan Wenqing also studied Cha Quan and Chen Style Taijiquan
wushu297 2 years ago
@wushu297 "Though his traditional training was an augmentation of his wushu training, it is only mentoned to express the neccesity of learning traditional styles"
I would argue completely to the contrary. The communist govt of China was force converting that Traditionalists augment to teach the contemporary style of sport-Wu shu. Thus the term "coach". How old was Jet Li here? (youtube vid)
"Li Lianjie fanzi quan"
TeetMauLau 2 years ago
You can argue whatever you feel like arguing but regardless of what your partisan belief is, the best wushu athletes of the 70's, 80's and 90's were also trained traditionally, often before they began competing in the sport (again, Zhao Changjun, Yuan Wenqing, Jiang Bangjun, the list is very long.)
I'm fascinated by people who feel they are benefiting others by arguing a partisan belief they were taught by someone else. Notice how there is no Nandu on my channel. Wonder why?
wushu297 2 years ago
@wushu297 I totally agree about training in Traditional in combination with wushu and tai chi. I did this myself. Wushu training drastically improves certain core movements and leg work while traditional handles the more details and upper body movements. Tai chi increases fluidity, breathing, application and puts a microscope on the details.
zigzigerblat 11 months ago
Oh and Jet Li is 15 in the afore mentioned video
wushu297 2 years ago
I should specify also that Yuan Wenqing learned Taiji in the traditional sense, not as a competition item.
wushu297 2 years ago
Just beautiful. Thanks for the clip
sunnyguy123 2 years ago
1:38 insane stance O.o
i dont even get so deep without falling on my back :D
MilanWraith 2 years ago
women have lower centre of gravity =)
telephowned 2 years ago
ah , the good old empty stance ... :P
ArchWilson 2 years ago
i hear someone is jealous :o
CheshireTiger2501 2 years ago
POWER power!!
CassieDude91 2 years ago
most powerful female martial artists I've seen. Like a female version of Terry fan.
YTwatcher38 2 years ago
I hear she is good with a gun
fucksargin 2 years ago
10 Zhao quans lol
tobywushu 2 years ago
The instant cure for all wife beaters :)
YumeNoEien 2 years ago 2
changquan is martial art or group of styles??
Pett1024 2 years ago
changquan is translated to long fist. It's a style of wushu just like nanquan (southern fist). The style incorporates alot of long range attacks and acrobatic kicks which is why it is called long fist.
zEnGeArS 2 years ago
so that's group of styles...??
Pett1024 2 years ago
Pett1024:
"Wu Shu" translates as "War Art". But the term "Wu Shu", semantically speaking, is a performance art. It is a generic form of Chinese Martial Arts which takes traditional Gung-Fu (Chang Chuan being the most exploited) and extending it's boundaries beyond it's intended form. It's the contemporary form and "flashdance" of todays touring "Shoalin Monks".
Don't get me wrong. The Bejing Wu Shu Troupe (Jet Li...et al) are phenomenal performers. But this is Not traditional Gung-Fu.
TeetMauLau 2 years ago
Gong fu translates as a skill that with persistent effort is mastered and it is not exclusive the martial arts. the reason I upload videos from the pre-nandu era of wushu is that the practitioners also mastered traditional styles as specialties to augment their competition "flavor."
Nobody is calling this traditional gongfu, but you'll find that the consistent champions of wushu (yuan wenqing, zhao changjun and jet li) all mastered a traditional style.
wushu297 2 years ago
@wushu297
Yes, I am quite familiar with the translatory term for "Gong fu". 1997 being "pre-nandu" is still awfully recent in my book, and there is a difference in their performances vs the late 70's early 80's era to which I am more acclimated with.
Not calling it "traditional gongfu" is still a question of semantics when one still considers the traveling so-called "Shaolin Monks" as legit.
What traditional style did Jet Li master?
TeetMauLau 2 years ago
Jet Li Mastered "Fanzi Quan" formerly known as "Ba Shan Feng." It is a traditional Hui Muslim style.
wushu297 2 years ago
Jet Li Mastered yo mama TeetMauLam. Just because you have a cantonese name doesn't mean you aren't a bitch
LoansOfYogurt 2 years ago
"Loads Of B.S." Yes indeed...Sorry to break it to you, but your Michael Jackson style of Martial Arts is nothing but the dream of a paper tiger. Contemporary "Wu Shu" looks great as a dance...but has no value in combat. When you grow up in the next 174 years, you might get a hold of that concept. Jet Li and the Beijing boys and girls are not fighters. And yes, Santa Claus is also myth.
Do you need some tissue?
TeetMauLau 2 years ago
I already pointed out that Jet li mastered a traditional style.
wushu297 2 years ago
@wushu297
OK...Who was Jet Li's sifu who taught him Fanzi Quan. I also understand that he also learned a "style" called Bagua who was his sifu for that entire system. I am also aware that he studied Tai-ji...Who was the traditional sifu who taught him that? He also knew Xing-Yi and Tang Lang Chuan...who were his respective sifus who taught him these traditional systems?????
TeetMauLau 2 years ago
@TeetMauLau
Honestly I do not know who taught Jet Li Bagua, Taijiquan, Xing Yi or Tang Langquan, nor was I aware that he learned these styles outside of his movie portrayals of them. Perhaps you could answer that question better than I.
The master who taught him Fanzi Quan was Ma Xiande, the PREMIER Hui muslim gongfu expert of his generation. Traditional to the core, and whom players such as Yuan Wenqing and Zhao Changjun have also revered.
wushu297 2 years ago
Hahahahaha you cling sooooo desperately to what you have read in many books or were taught by some wannabe traditionalist. Even Bruce Lee said traditional Kung Fu was wasteful and useless? Hahaha can you show me one application in that Choy lee fut video you favorited?
Seems like if he added some jump kicks it would look alot like wushu, but alas, jump kicks and awesomeness are anti tradition so we shouldn't practice it. BWHAHAHAHA
LoansOfYogurt 2 years ago
yeah i agree, whu shu is a demonstration sport. it is stupid for self defense
jayangli 1 year ago
I could give you an application in any style.
wushunate1 1 year ago
@LoansOfYogurt nop he didnt say that.
lain777 1 year ago
Pett1024
Changquan isn't anything specific. There are many traditional styles from Shaolin to Chen style Taijiquan that all have a changquan set in their curriculum. The Chang Quan presented here is a modern one created from different traditional styles for the sake of competition.
wushu297 2 years ago
omg i want to marry her haha
i do wushu and we all admire this women....she is without a doubt the best female in wushu!!
petrucci15 2 years ago
hoooooly shit
melindoro 2 years ago
I was waiting for the big finish at the end of the run or sprint or whatever it's called. Felt a little disappointed :( Where are the tornado kicks? The jumping 3 way kicks? Bleh
TKDdisciple 2 years ago
what are you talkin about...shes awesome..this is not. fuckin." tae kwon do"......this is chinese wushu!!!...
this is not just acrobatic..its accurate...its strong!!! like she does..
88Jako 2 years ago 2
Whatever. Search up "Joel Denis Moon Moo" or "Suska Juche" that is my personal opinion of precision, power and accuracy. Once again, my personal opinion, i just dont see it the same way you do. I personally see alot of running about and moving with not much bone breaking technique. Must be because I dont study that art that i cant see it eh?
TKDdisciple 2 years ago
well..this is wushu...its really fast...but...its not so strong..if we talk about "power"...!!!!...theres the kung fu....that its real different...real strong..real accuarcy..speed.....power!!!.
and about the bone breaking techiniques...well...that depends a lot a bout the style...
and man...some times..there ara guys that doesnt need to do a tornado kick to prove they can do it...some times...you only need to see how they move..like this guy..look for "WuDang8 Immortal Staff "...
88Jako 2 years ago
speed equals power
just by looking u can not feel the power but when u get hit by it or stand close to the person then u can feel the power
vepost 2 years ago
speed deffinatley equals power.
the faster you practice the faster you can defend yourself.
this women would easily defend herself in selfdefense
catkid04 2 years ago
love long fist!!!!! :)
cagethug 2 years ago
wow,very good!
levana20091 2 years ago
omg here cheebu is very low, i wish i could do that.
kissman120 2 years ago 2
yeeah she is the best
lu5496 2 years ago
wow!!!
wish i could do that! =D
hamzachilling 2 years ago
How can u not give this 5 stars.. I',m in love...
cathy75 2 years ago 2
she is awesome.
liu qing hua is an amazing performer
catkid04 2 years ago 2
Otimo nota 10 !!!
cakenpo 2 years ago
She's among the most skilled I've seen. Good balance, power, speed and control.
finnpalm 2 years ago 7
That's exactly,how i move,when i'm on speed. She's awesome.
Yngwie69 2 years ago
wow
drchango2010 2 years ago
wonder
arthurfreestyless 2 years ago
she is HOT!
abcfleury 2 years ago
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no shes not, she looks like a fucking alien
mel956 2 years ago
I can tell by the force she generates when she moves that she has ridiculous leg muscles.
4dville 2 years ago 3
wushu gives you the lower body of a horse.. like, you feel like a minataur just walking around
akarc24 2 years ago 3
and bodybuilding gives you the lowerbody of a dinosaur
ukatam 2 years ago 5
I have a question, is wushu bodybuilding? I'm a bit confused (as I know very very little), but to me she does not seem to have a huge body, in fact, she seems slim and fit, the opposite of body building... so, back to my question...
LimeGirl08 2 years ago
Nope wushu isnt bodybuilding at all...Wushu is just chinese martial arts, and in modern times has come to be a sport. Bodybuilding is about building your muscles up and lowering your fat levels to extremely low proportions in order to see muscles under the skin. I think both are wushu and bodybuilding are artistic. But to be honest a bodybuilder is going to have stronger legs than a wushu practitioner. Olympic weightlifters have the strongest legs in the world though, id say
ukatam 2 years ago
Wushu is martial art, its not body building, its an art, a sports.. it does not concentrate just on power/ strength training.
strength, speed, flexibility, acrobatics and creativity since they allowed composing your own routine in competition.
it also depends whether its northern or southern.
southenfocus more on ground, explosive, speed
northen more on flexibility, speed, and jumping/ flying skills
Yojimboshi 2 years ago
O MAN I LIKE MARTIAL ARTS!!!
thunderkylinP 3 years ago 2
What i mean to say is that with the exception of a couple of moves, all the non-jump techniques are actually very practical, It's just a matter of analyzing them correctly, that's all.
Wushu177 3 years ago 3
then,i just try to said that wushu have more run and high jumps like gymnastic, in comparison with other very traditional styles of kung fu, that's all
mayoralfin 3 years ago
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i think that wushu is more gimnastic and dancing moves, than really kung fu ... i like traditionals
mayoralfin 3 years ago
Well,just keep in mind that the contemporary forms are grounded in tradition, and that 95% of the techniques shown in there do have some practical application.
Wushu177 3 years ago
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but wushu it's not so traditional at all, in comparison with other styles of kung fu, and yes i know that 100% of move are techniques, but they are like a dancing and acrobacy only
mayoralfin 3 years ago
Despite this... er ji jiao is basic ji ben gong in mantis as well... and used to kick the chin and cause neck injury due to that. er ji jiao. But I would use a low kick in its place...
MaBu888 2 years ago
JIAYOU!! JIAYOU
glikglik2 3 years ago 2
Jia yuo!!
MaBu888 2 years ago
perfect!
mohtarik 3 years ago
Wow very nice form =)
NatesProductions 3 years ago
yes bring back the old school stuff ! ;-)
g888 3 years ago
Can we please do something other than a hammer fist and dan pai jiao, omg boring! Bring back the old school!
KungF00L4Life 3 years ago
youre so right. old school was much better. the same with hip-hop =)
nekegami 3 years ago
She is the Changquan
abcfleury 3 years ago
She is one with it.
xk23 3 years ago
very excellent ^^
Joninsho 3 years ago
That's a girl? whoa! I'd rather fight a tiger I'd have a better chance.
edudrepus 3 years ago
yeah! Mrs. Chak they call her! I can never figure that out either... I asked her and she said she's not sure why they do that. Pretty funny!
jamescardinell 4 years ago
her stomp with fist clap is cool
TeNofQuad 4 years ago
my fave wushu athlete
YuanWenQing 4 years ago
The best female wushu athlete ever...
phidang16 4 years ago
Hau Zhi Hua deserves that title, I think, though Coach Liu is a brilliant player and teacher!!! Her straightsword is certainly second-to-none.
jamescardinell 4 years ago
HauZhi Hua I think is definitely better.. though I'm biased cuz I think eighties wushu is general is better. Has anyone seen "This is Kung Fu"? The english subbs keep calling HauZhi Hua 'Chak' hahahahaaaaa
theshadowsquadisback 4 years ago 3