Good Lord, Bern! I turned this vid on, raised the vid and went to the laudry room; it took a couple seconds to load and I thought my neighbour had jumped out from nowehre and was yelling at me for no apparent reason! lol
im gonna make a prediction. we're getting obama again, its already been decided. it'll be a real close election though (lol), against he and the pre-selected candidate Romney.
because elections that are real close are always the ones easiest to work mischief on.
dang, those presidential elections are always SOOO close arent they?
I wonder how RP supporters can reconcile their no-dissent self-righteous attitudes while they rail against their socialist counterparts who engage in the same thing. This is from a normal person to a Ron Paul nut: when you talk about Ron Paul I, and every other average guy, get a strong desire not to vote for him. If you want to do Dr. Paul a favor, shut up and let him do the talking. You're not winning him any points.
Bernard ..we all have our favorites ...everyone is entitled to their own opinion as is Levin. This isnt about Levin disagreeing with Paul ..or not supporting Paul at all... BUT its about Levins passionate hatred for Paul, he would vote for Obama over Paul...the personal insults.. going after Ron Paul’s son for daring to stand by his father during this campaign. An attack on Paul ..is a attack on conservative principles. Why's he doing this?
@mala265 Same Ron Paul supporters would vote for Obama if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination. I heard this from many Paulites mouths. THAT'S why he is doing this. THAT'S why.
@RenegadeJuggler great question! lol i wore the first shirt to the gym and then washed it. New one now. Sometimes i put them back if i only wear them for 10 minutes
@wogeibe because Mark Levin is so intolerant of Ron Paul and his supporters. Listen to his radio show sometime... whenever Ron Paul is brought up in conversation he blows up & gets angry calling Ron Paul supporters morons, idiots, liberals, etc.
@printo69 It wouldn't matter if it was Levin or some other conservative who wasn't so critical of Ron Paul supporters. If Bern did a positive book review of any conservative, regardless of how good the book was, Ron Paul supporters would be on here railing against him in droves and disliking the video.
@wogeibe Not true. Levin takes his ad hominems to sensationalistic levels. Regardless, I will not financially support someone who supports the Military/Industrial Complex or the Patriot Act, anyone who supports pre-emptive military strikes and calls it "defense", or torture, or is a Bush/Cheney brown noser. Most of all, I will never give money to someone who admits to having such a low opinion of those who disagree with these 100% UN-Constitutional activities.
@DrNordo I never said anything about who you should financially support. The founders of this nation did not all agree with Ron Paul's way of thinking. The founders were very diverse in their beliefs, some would have agreed more with Ron Paul, while others would have agreed more with modern conservatives. There are things that the founders did that no Libertarian would agree with today. For instance, the laws against sodomy were very strict, in some states, the penalty was death.
@wogeibe "For instance, the laws against sodomy were very strict, in some states, the penalty was death."
100% false. Capital sodomy was abolished by every single state after the signing of the Declaration of Independence. You really should try harder to avoid manufacturing "facts".
@DrNordo Your statement is 100% false. Capital sodomy most certainly did exist after the Declaration was signed. Thomas Jefferson in his own state of Virginia sponsored a bill in 1778 that suggested lowering the punishment to castration and it was shot down. Sodomy was a felony in every state until 1962. Just google "Sodomy laws in the United States." I could also point out things that the founders did that many Paul supporters would today consider unconstitutional.
@DrNordo New York, Connecticut, Georgia, and South Carolina all had the death penalty for Sodomy. I am not trying to convince you to my way of thinking, I'm only saying that Ron Paul supporters do not have a monopoly on all things constitutional and in agreement with our founders. There are some of the founders I disagree strongly with. However, just as the founders disagreements nearly ended the Union then, so to will it happen today if we cannot find common ground.
@wogeibe Yes, many states did have capital sodomy laws at one point in time, but by the time the Revolutionary War came about, they were virtually extinguished. And as I already said, it is an irrelevant argument because these were state laws, not federal, so the Constitution had virtually nothing to do with them.
@DrNordo Again, I was just trying to make a larger point that there is not one uniting view of what is the American way. Some of the early founders did things that some people would think were reasonable while others may have found it unconstitutional. Thomas Jefferson started the First Barbary War without an official declaration of war. George Washington and congress declared a man a traitor because he spoke against the war etc.
@wogeibe Misleading. Jefferson did have authority from Congress to engage the Barbary pirates. (1798) "[6 frigates] shall be officered and manned as the President of the United States may direct." And after engaging, Jefferson never did anything beyond the line of defense without the approval of Congress.
@wogeibe I should elaborate. It's splitting hairs because it doesn't change the fact that deciding on engaging in actions of war is a decision that the Constitution states is the responsibility of Congress, NOT of the President.
@DrNordo It was no different than the Iraq war resolution. Congress passed the Iraq war resolution in October 2002 authorizing military action against Iraq.
@DrNordo I'm not confirming nor denying the legitimacy of the Iraq War, only that I'm not splitting hairs by pointing out that what Jefferson did during the Barbary Wars would likely be considered unconstitutional by Ron Paul's measure.
@wogeibe Anyway, this conversation has gotten way off track. Even if Ron Paul and those who are like-minded are wrong on every single position, the fact remains that Levin has nothing but contempt for them. And he doesn't even debate them. He shouts them down and calls them morons. Why should those who are the objects of his perpetual scorn respect anything he has to say?
@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
@wogeibe "The founders were very diverse in their beliefs, some would have agreed more with Ron Paul, while others would have agreed more with modern conservatives."
Not relevant if said beliefs contradict the Constitution.
@wogeibe "I never said anything about who you should financially support."
You certainly insinuated it. Quote:"...Does someone really have to share all the same political views as you before you can hear anything they say?"
Mark Levin's thoughts are for sale through his book. Since I refuse to pay for his book, inability to hear what he has to say kind of goes hand in hand with that.
@DrNordo I did not insinuate any such thing, I was just saying that if Bern does an inferno on some conservative book, theres no need to need for all the mud slinging. Bern puts a lot of work into making all these videos for us and we should try to be supportive of him. He just did a video the other day about how conservatives and Paul supporters should get along better. I am not much of a Paul supporter but I try to be open minded for Bern's sake.
@wogeibe I absolutely support Bern. I do NOT support Levin. And it is perfectly reasonable for Ron Paul supporters to be critical of him when he takes every single opportunity to tell his acolytes how stupid we all are.
@DrNordo Unconstitutional activities? Oh, you mean like when Ron Paul authorized going to war in Afghanistan with no declaration of war? I agree, I hate those unconstitutional pricks
@bigboss686 The reason that there was no declaration of war, "brah", was because it is nearly impossible to do so when you're not fighting against a country. RP wished to issue letters of marque and reprisal instead. Regardless, the important thing is that military action was granted by Congress, making it legal.
@DrNordo See, this is why your logic spirals downward into meaninglessness.
RP didn't issue those letters of reprisal, did he? Nope, he went with the crowd engaging in the very "unconstitutional actions" he now chides, hypocrite.
Oh, so military action granted by Congress without a declaration of war is cool? No problem then, no declaration of war needed for Iraq, the Senate's authorization is good enough, so again RP comes off as a hypocrite.
@DrNordo Actually brah, the reason you're not going to is because your circular logic crumbles to the ground beneath your feet.
If it's impossible to make a declaration of war when not fighting a specific country then that also justifies Iraq, after all Al-Qaida man Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was in Iraq before we were, further justifying it. Also justifies not using Geneva conventions, I can go on, but you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day
@wogeibe Thats ridiculous and not true. Bernards done many conservative book reviews here that have been awesome ... I even discovered a couple of my fav consertatives through a couple of book reviews he did here,
Why are Ron Paul supporters so intolerant of people who disagree with their view of foreign policy? If you guys disagree with Levin on stuff then why not just accept the good stuff he puts out and disregard the stuff you don't agree on him with. Does someone really have to share all the same political views as you before you can hear anything they say?
@wogeibe: "Why are Ron Paul supporters so intolerant of people who disagree with their view of foreign policy?"
If someone believes that current and potential foreign wars are murderous, expensive and unnecessary, it would be absurd for them to calmly "tolerate" what they consider to be pointless mass murder.
@wogeibe it is a shame, i think that if Paul wins the nomination the sheer nastiness and hate that comes from the left will make it apparent to some supporters who his real enemies are
Utopian thinking is something very very dangerous, I've learned to stay away from people who refer to their grand visions as "utopian". These methods of thinking always involve the wiping away of "unfavorables" and generally I find myself included in them. Don't drink the kool-aide!
@jenlokken I read Liberty Defined. We must get Ron Paul in office! He is the only candidate who is even human. The other candidates are robotic servants of the New World Order. All they care about is murdering foreigners and policing the world. They don't give a damn about liberty.
Sorry Bernard, as much as I like ya, I can't support your boy. IMO, anyone who writes off Ron Paul supporters as "crackpots" has no business talking about liberty and tyranny.
@DrNordo oh, but he does and you'd probably agree with every word in this text as would Dr. Paul. The message is superlative...even if you hate the messenger
My first experience with Mark Levin was his embarrassingly bad performance in an online debate with Tom Woods (archived on Woods' eponymous website). I've also seen his horrendous bias against Ron Paul.
But, I'll keep an open mind because you like the guy.
@pinegrove33: "You mean Woods responded to something Levin said on air...which isn't a debate."
Correct, that is how it began. But there's more!
Levin responded to what Woods wrote with a post on Facebook. Woods responded again, and then Levin came back with another Facebook post. To which Woods once again replied.
This back and forth sure sounds like a debate to me!
@pinegrove33 Actually Bernard, they did have a debate of sorts. It was a back and forth argument between Woods blog and Levin's Facebook concerning Executive War Powers.
YEAH!! Go Levin!! Let's build up this military industrial complex and borrow more money from China to do so.... And SCREW Ru Paul.... Under Ru Paul's budget, our military would only be 4 times the size of China's.
@KillaCommie4Mommy the book is great. Ron Paul isn't mentioned within but he'd approve of its theme as he is perhaps more appalled by the post-Constitutional country we live in than we are.
@pinegrove33 I doubt Paul would approve... Levin's a statist who wants to police the world and tell others how to run their countries... He's talked of Dr Paul on his radio show in a VERY bad light... Anyone who HATES Ron Paul is no friend of liberty.
@pinegrove33 Levin is a zionist bastard whose loyalties lie with IsraHELL! That is the ONLY reason he (and Michael Savage) hate Ron Paul so much, because Paul would cut ALL aid to israHELL and let them fight their own battles ON THEIR OWN! All the wars in the middle east are proxy wars for israHELL! Personally, I think Levin and Savage and Ben Stein and all the other FAKE conservative zionists should all be deported to israHELL forthwith!
@Crimble67 Amen to that. In fact, every candidate other than Ron Paul is a neocon zionist bastard who wants to destroy our sovereignty. They all support the plan to attack Iran and start World War III, and none of them would oppose the UN's New World Order plot. I hope those who do not support Ron Paul would enjoy living in a concentration camp when Agenda 21 is implemented.
Levin is weak.
Coldshot89 1 month ago
Good Lord, Bern! I turned this vid on, raised the vid and went to the laudry room; it took a couple seconds to load and I thought my neighbour had jumped out from nowehre and was yelling at me for no apparent reason! lol
J0k3r4U 1 month ago
Good review, thanks!
Carrie3570 1 month ago
Mr Chapin,
May I trouble you for your thoughts on trailing republican Jon Huntsman and ask which candidate you expect to be most successful in the primaries?
haydencantact 1 month ago
@haydencantact my friend, Huntsman quit the race last week
pinegrove33 1 month ago
anyone thats keeping score knows the gameplan.
im gonna make a prediction. we're getting obama again, its already been decided. it'll be a real close election though (lol), against he and the pre-selected candidate Romney.
because elections that are real close are always the ones easiest to work mischief on.
dang, those presidential elections are always SOOO close arent they?
knowthingman 1 month ago
@knowthingman they sure are...and as our society, in the years to come, contains way more takers than makers it'll be taps time...i hope not
pinegrove33 1 month ago
Barack Obama getting re-elected would be the worst thing to ever happen.
yankydoodle83 1 month ago
Great job on the 'great one'. Thumbs up my brotha. Keep on keepin' up the good fight cause this party's just gettin' started.
heytootssweet 1 month ago
Been listening to Mark for over a month now, on your recommendation, & he has a pretty good show.
I hate it when he trashes Paul though. Mark is clearly one of those "we gotta police the world" people, which just sucks.
But he did say he'd support him if he got the nomination.
I'm falling behind in the books, but I guess I'll pick up his when I see it.
Razlo5000 1 month ago
I wonder how RP supporters can reconcile their no-dissent self-righteous attitudes while they rail against their socialist counterparts who engage in the same thing. This is from a normal person to a Ron Paul nut: when you talk about Ron Paul I, and every other average guy, get a strong desire not to vote for him. If you want to do Dr. Paul a favor, shut up and let him do the talking. You're not winning him any points.
nofalltoofar 1 month ago
Bernard ..we all have our favorites ...everyone is entitled to their own opinion as is Levin. This isnt about Levin disagreeing with Paul ..or not supporting Paul at all... BUT its about Levins passionate hatred for Paul, he would vote for Obama over Paul...the personal insults.. going after Ron Paul’s son for daring to stand by his father during this campaign. An attack on Paul ..is a attack on conservative principles. Why's he doing this?
mala265 1 month ago 8
@mala265 Same Ron Paul supporters would vote for Obama if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination. I heard this from many Paulites mouths. THAT'S why he is doing this. THAT'S why.
POPCANA 1 month ago
Lavin has a few bad things to say about Ron Paul. How do you reconcile that?
nk171283 1 month ago
@nk171283 Ron Paul has nothing to do with this book. He isn't mentioned. It's OK if they vote differently from me
pinegrove33 1 month ago
Dude, I only have one question, How many shirts do you go through a day? All the best.
RenegadeJuggler 1 month ago
@RenegadeJuggler great question! lol i wore the first shirt to the gym and then washed it. New one now. Sometimes i put them back if i only wear them for 10 minutes
pinegrove33 1 month ago
@pinegrove33 OK but I am still not rooting for New York Next weekend.
RenegadeJuggler 1 month ago
I thought you were a Ron Paul fan? This guy HATES Ron Paul.
christo930 1 month ago
@christo930 Ron Paul would love this book...as do I! It impugns post-Constitutional America which Dr. Paul is opposed to as well
pinegrove33 1 month ago
@pinegrove33 I don't know why you would support someone who is actively trying to undermine the success of your preferred politician.
christo930 1 month ago
@wogeibe because Mark Levin is so intolerant of Ron Paul and his supporters. Listen to his radio show sometime... whenever Ron Paul is brought up in conversation he blows up & gets angry calling Ron Paul supporters morons, idiots, liberals, etc.
printo69 1 month ago
@printo69 It wouldn't matter if it was Levin or some other conservative who wasn't so critical of Ron Paul supporters. If Bern did a positive book review of any conservative, regardless of how good the book was, Ron Paul supporters would be on here railing against him in droves and disliking the video.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe You know, honest and truly, i think Ron Paul would approve of this book. His outlook on the founders would be the same as Dr. Paul's
pinegrove33 1 month ago
@wogeibe Not true. Levin takes his ad hominems to sensationalistic levels. Regardless, I will not financially support someone who supports the Military/Industrial Complex or the Patriot Act, anyone who supports pre-emptive military strikes and calls it "defense", or torture, or is a Bush/Cheney brown noser. Most of all, I will never give money to someone who admits to having such a low opinion of those who disagree with these 100% UN-Constitutional activities.
DrNordo 1 month ago 5
@DrNordo I never said anything about who you should financially support. The founders of this nation did not all agree with Ron Paul's way of thinking. The founders were very diverse in their beliefs, some would have agreed more with Ron Paul, while others would have agreed more with modern conservatives. There are things that the founders did that no Libertarian would agree with today. For instance, the laws against sodomy were very strict, in some states, the penalty was death.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe "For instance, the laws against sodomy were very strict, in some states, the penalty was death."
100% false. Capital sodomy was abolished by every single state after the signing of the Declaration of Independence. You really should try harder to avoid manufacturing "facts".
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo Your statement is 100% false. Capital sodomy most certainly did exist after the Declaration was signed. Thomas Jefferson in his own state of Virginia sponsored a bill in 1778 that suggested lowering the punishment to castration and it was shot down. Sodomy was a felony in every state until 1962. Just google "Sodomy laws in the United States." I could also point out things that the founders did that many Paul supporters would today consider unconstitutional.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe Virginia would have been the sole exception, and this was merely holdover from English Common Law.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo New York, Connecticut, Georgia, and South Carolina all had the death penalty for Sodomy. I am not trying to convince you to my way of thinking, I'm only saying that Ron Paul supporters do not have a monopoly on all things constitutional and in agreement with our founders. There are some of the founders I disagree strongly with. However, just as the founders disagreements nearly ended the Union then, so to will it happen today if we cannot find common ground.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe Yes, many states did have capital sodomy laws at one point in time, but by the time the Revolutionary War came about, they were virtually extinguished. And as I already said, it is an irrelevant argument because these were state laws, not federal, so the Constitution had virtually nothing to do with them.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo Again, I was just trying to make a larger point that there is not one uniting view of what is the American way. Some of the early founders did things that some people would think were reasonable while others may have found it unconstitutional. Thomas Jefferson started the First Barbary War without an official declaration of war. George Washington and congress declared a man a traitor because he spoke against the war etc.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe Misleading. Jefferson did have authority from Congress to engage the Barbary pirates. (1798) "[6 frigates] shall be officered and manned as the President of the United States may direct." And after engaging, Jefferson never did anything beyond the line of defense without the approval of Congress.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo He had approval of Congress, but they did not declare war.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe Splitting hairs.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe I should elaborate. It's splitting hairs because it doesn't change the fact that deciding on engaging in actions of war is a decision that the Constitution states is the responsibility of Congress, NOT of the President.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo It was no different than the Iraq war resolution. Congress passed the Iraq war resolution in October 2002 authorizing military action against Iraq.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe And the legality of that act is heavily debated.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe That's not even considering the fact that the entire war was based on lies.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo I'm not confirming nor denying the legitimacy of the Iraq War, only that I'm not splitting hairs by pointing out that what Jefferson did during the Barbary Wars would likely be considered unconstitutional by Ron Paul's measure.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe Sorry, going to have to disagree with you there.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe Anyway, this conversation has gotten way off track. Even if Ron Paul and those who are like-minded are wrong on every single position, the fact remains that Levin has nothing but contempt for them. And he doesn't even debate them. He shouts them down and calls them morons. Why should those who are the objects of his perpetual scorn respect anything he has to say?
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
wogeibe 1 month ago
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@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
wogeibe 1 month ago
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@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
wogeibe 1 month ago
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@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
wogeibe 1 month ago
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@DrNordo I agree with you that Mark Levin's approach is not the right approach. I am not asking you or any other Paul supporter to read or buy his book either. All I am saying is, I come to the inferno to find agreement with like minded MRA's and reasonable people. I do not come to see everyone fighting. If Ron Paul supporters don't like Bern doing an inferno on Levin, then just don't watch it. When I see so many people criticizing Bern for his choice, I gotta stick up for him.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@DrNordo One of Ron Paul's big gripes is that we engage in war without an official declaration.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe No, the point is that the President is making unilateral decisions without the approval of Congress.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe "I'm only saying that Ron Paul supporters do not have a monopoly on all things constitutional"
You're right, but Mark Levin is not one of those people, despite his claims to the contrary.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe Regardless, your whole argument on sodomy laws is irrelevant. These were state laws, not federal.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe "The founders were very diverse in their beliefs, some would have agreed more with Ron Paul, while others would have agreed more with modern conservatives."
Not relevant if said beliefs contradict the Constitution.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@wogeibe "I never said anything about who you should financially support."
You certainly insinuated it. Quote:"...Does someone really have to share all the same political views as you before you can hear anything they say?"
Mark Levin's thoughts are for sale through his book. Since I refuse to pay for his book, inability to hear what he has to say kind of goes hand in hand with that.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo I did not insinuate any such thing, I was just saying that if Bern does an inferno on some conservative book, theres no need to need for all the mud slinging. Bern puts a lot of work into making all these videos for us and we should try to be supportive of him. He just did a video the other day about how conservatives and Paul supporters should get along better. I am not much of a Paul supporter but I try to be open minded for Bern's sake.
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe I absolutely support Bern. I do NOT support Levin. And it is perfectly reasonable for Ron Paul supporters to be critical of him when he takes every single opportunity to tell his acolytes how stupid we all are.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo Unconstitutional activities? Oh, you mean like when Ron Paul authorized going to war in Afghanistan with no declaration of war? I agree, I hate those unconstitutional pricks
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686 You apparently don't have any idea what you're talking about.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo Actually I do, so how bout you show me the declaration of war for Afghanistan brah.
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686 The reason that there was no declaration of war, "brah", was because it is nearly impossible to do so when you're not fighting against a country. RP wished to issue letters of marque and reprisal instead. Regardless, the important thing is that military action was granted by Congress, making it legal.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo See, this is why your logic spirals downward into meaninglessness.
RP didn't issue those letters of reprisal, did he? Nope, he went with the crowd engaging in the very "unconstitutional actions" he now chides, hypocrite.
Oh, so military action granted by Congress without a declaration of war is cool? No problem then, no declaration of war needed for Iraq, the Senate's authorization is good enough, so again RP comes off as a hypocrite.
Your circular logic doesn't impress brah
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686 This topic has been covered over and over again. I'm not going to repeat it all just because you are lazy.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo Actually brah, the reason you're not going to is because your circular logic crumbles to the ground beneath your feet.
If it's impossible to make a declaration of war when not fighting a specific country then that also justifies Iraq, after all Al-Qaida man Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was in Iraq before we were, further justifying it. Also justifies not using Geneva conventions, I can go on, but you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day
bigboss686 1 month ago
@bigboss686 The war in Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with Al-Qaeda.
DrNordo 1 month ago
@DrNordo Fail brah
bigboss686 1 month ago
@wogeibe Thats ridiculous and not true. Bernards done many conservative book reviews here that have been awesome ... I even discovered a couple of my fav consertatives through a couple of book reviews he did here,
mala265 1 month ago
@mala265 * conserVatives* .. sorry.
mala265 1 month ago
@printo69 a shame for their differences because it's a sensational book that Dr. Paul would approve of
pinegrove33 1 month ago
Why are Ron Paul supporters so intolerant of people who disagree with their view of foreign policy? If you guys disagree with Levin on stuff then why not just accept the good stuff he puts out and disregard the stuff you don't agree on him with. Does someone really have to share all the same political views as you before you can hear anything they say?
wogeibe 1 month ago
@wogeibe Because even rat poison is 95% cornmeal
KillaCommie4Mommy 1 month ago
@wogeibe: "Why are Ron Paul supporters so intolerant of people who disagree with their view of foreign policy?"
If someone believes that current and potential foreign wars are murderous, expensive and unnecessary, it would be absurd for them to calmly "tolerate" what they consider to be pointless mass murder.
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@wogeibe it is a shame, i think that if Paul wins the nomination the sheer nastiness and hate that comes from the left will make it apparent to some supporters who his real enemies are
pinegrove33 1 month ago
Mark Levin is a neocon/zionist that wants to send our troops in to harms way for Israel. The troops overwhelmingly support Ron Paul.
ClutchFan1971 1 month ago
Utopian thinking is something very very dangerous, I've learned to stay away from people who refer to their grand visions as "utopian". These methods of thinking always involve the wiping away of "unfavorables" and generally I find myself included in them. Don't drink the kool-aide!
LovelesOne 1 month ago
@LovelesOne yeah, and in the next installment, i'm going to share some of his insights on utopianism...wonderful writing, IMHO
pinegrove33 1 month ago
That flag and liberty, hmmm, somehow they just dont go
thekwizatshaderach 1 month ago
*another jewish author*
xzuvqz 1 month ago
Have you read "Liberty Defined" by Ron Paul?
jenlokken 1 month ago
@jenlokken no, i read Manifesto and End the Fed though
pinegrove33 1 month ago
@jenlokken I read Liberty Defined. We must get Ron Paul in office! He is the only candidate who is even human. The other candidates are robotic servants of the New World Order. All they care about is murdering foreigners and policing the world. They don't give a damn about liberty.
Ron Paul is pro life and pro liberty.
The others are pro death and pro slavery.
Plain and simple.
UltraConservative298 1 month ago
Sorry Bernard, as much as I like ya, I can't support your boy. IMO, anyone who writes off Ron Paul supporters as "crackpots" has no business talking about liberty and tyranny.
DrNordo 1 month ago 3
@DrNordo oh, but he does and you'd probably agree with every word in this text as would Dr. Paul. The message is superlative...even if you hate the messenger
pinegrove33 1 month ago 2
My first experience with Mark Levin was his embarrassingly bad performance in an online debate with Tom Woods (archived on Woods' eponymous website). I've also seen his horrendous bias against Ron Paul.
But, I'll keep an open mind because you like the guy.
Eincrou 1 month ago
@Eincrou they never had a debate. You mean Woods responded to something Levin said on air...which isn't a debate.
pinegrove33 1 month ago
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@pinegrove33: "You mean Woods responded to something Levin said on air...which isn't a debate."
Correct, that is how it began. But there's more!
Levin responded to what Woods wrote with a post on Facebook. Woods responded again, and then Levin came back with another Facebook post. To which Woods once again replied.
This back and forth sure sounds like a debate to me!
tomwoods$com/levin/ has the whole thing.
Eincrou 1 month ago
@pinegrove33 Actually Bernard, they did have a debate of sorts. It was a back and forth argument between Woods blog and Levin's Facebook concerning Executive War Powers.
DrNordo 1 month ago
YEAH!! Go Levin!! Let's build up this military industrial complex and borrow more money from China to do so.... And SCREW Ru Paul.... Under Ru Paul's budget, our military would only be 4 times the size of China's.
KillaCommie4Mommy 1 month ago
@KillaCommie4Mommy the book is great. Ron Paul isn't mentioned within but he'd approve of its theme as he is perhaps more appalled by the post-Constitutional country we live in than we are.
pinegrove33 1 month ago
@pinegrove33 I doubt Paul would approve... Levin's a statist who wants to police the world and tell others how to run their countries... He's talked of Dr Paul on his radio show in a VERY bad light... Anyone who HATES Ron Paul is no friend of liberty.
KillaCommie4Mommy 1 month ago
@pinegrove33 Levin is a zionist bastard whose loyalties lie with IsraHELL! That is the ONLY reason he (and Michael Savage) hate Ron Paul so much, because Paul would cut ALL aid to israHELL and let them fight their own battles ON THEIR OWN! All the wars in the middle east are proxy wars for israHELL! Personally, I think Levin and Savage and Ben Stein and all the other FAKE conservative zionists should all be deported to israHELL forthwith!
Crimble67 1 month ago 3
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UltraConservative298 1 month ago
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@Crimble67 Amen to that. In fact, every candidate other than Ron Paul is a neocon zionist bastard who wants to destroy our sovereignty. They all support the plan to attack Iran and start World War III, and none of them would oppose the UN's New World Order plot. I hope those who do not support Ron Paul would enjoy living in a concentration camp when Agenda 21 is implemented.
UltraConservative298 1 month ago