What is the endurance ? I fly bell 206's and a full take gives about 2hours and 40 min flying time with a 20 min reserve. The Russians sure have a way with rotorcraft.
I think the designers of this helicopter sat down and bet each other who could make the ugliest helicopter. This was the winner. "Let's make it look like it has turbine engines for some reason. Let's invest the money to put contra rotating rotor blades on it but then get cheap when it comes to the engines. Let's make it have less power and more weight. Hell yeah we designers are pure genius."
@kibabiba Well sir you are correct about helicopters with contra rotating blades being faster, they take away the negative effects of retreating blade stall; and your right, piston engines use far less fuel than turbines do. However, the power to weight ration of a turbine vs. a piston engine makes the turbine like 400% more efficient (that's probably an understatement). Go take your "obvious facts" and tell them to someone that doesn't know any better.
@FJones9508 This is farm tractor that sprays chemicals, it's not Ka-52 ))). Piston engine power is enough for it. BTW Helicopters with coaxial rotors are better for spraying because air flow spreads chemicals uniformly, not only on one side like conventional helicopter do.
Thanks for the reply. I've looked at other pictures of the rotor mast (such as KA-50) and tried to figure out just what is used to move 2 swash-plates apart from one another. It does look pretty complicated.
I'm sure I can find something on some other websites that explains how it all works.
It's obvious there's no need for a tail rotor with counter-rotating twin rotors. Question is, how is yaw controlled? An educated guess would tell me that the rudder pedals imply differentiation on the collective between the 2 rotors. Less collective on 1 and more on the other would impose more load on 1 than the other resulting in torque reaction causing yaw. Can anyone concur on this?
@skyferret1 You've got it !. They increase collective on one set and reduce on the other. Overall lift doesn't change, but torque does. I've never flown one, but I would think that as you alter the collective you do not need to correct for the torque change with the pedals as in non-contra-rotating types. If you think the control system is complicated, then look into the Chinook. It has a cupboard the size of a single wardrope to house the mechanical mixing system for the swashplates.
@skyferret1 In the Chinook a collective change alters both sets of blades. To turn say left in the yaw axis, the front rotor is tilted left while the rear rotor is tilted right. For a small amount of forward cyclic, both sets of rotors tilt forward in the normal way, but for a larger control input they ALSO increase collective on the rear rotor system while simultaneously reducing collective on the front rotor system. That must have taken some work on the drawing board !.
@ReflectedImpedance Thanks for the reply. I've looked at pictures of the KA 50 as well. The rotor mast looks like one complicated piece of equipment. But one thing's for sure; I'd probably settle for a vodka burner over a domestic any time.
@skyferret1 Hmmm...indeed !. I hadn't thought about how the contra-rotating system overcomes the single-rotor problem of retreating blade stall, and hence is not speed-limited like the single-rotor helicopter. Very clever. Now I want one even more !.
@ReflectedImpedance That's actually a good point. I never thought about that. Yeah, single rotors have speed limitations because of advancing and retreating blades. Now I'm going to sit here and think about this for a while. LOL. My first thought about the physics behind twin rotors in forward flight is how the downward wash from the top rotor affects the lower rotor's advancing and retreating blades. Maybe this is why the 2 rotors seem so far apart as compared to TU 95 propellers.
@skyferret1 BTW, if you do want to pick up your own vodka burner, I'm willing to bet there's tons of old SU 25s laying around (unless you're strictly a die-hard rotor-head). From what I understand, they're built tough so any bad landing is a good one.
relax everybody this chopter us tu evgins with pistons this is chipper then turbo and used in soviet timse for milicia (polis)and kolhosi (farms of goverment) ;)))))
de a kamovok budaörsről szálnak fel??? mert én már csomoszór voltam ott és még nem láttam öket:(amúgy meg télleg ne már csak az amcsik írjanak hanem a magyarok is
great video of an enigmatic aircraft.There,s a beautifully restored example with its passenger pod in interflug colours located at the helicopter museumat weston super mare in somerset. Its a great little aircraft and can link its heritage right up to todays KA52 werewolf.
sok hülye külföldi életébe nem látott még kamovot meg valószínű nem is fog aztán hatalmas véleményeket mondenak róla...nem szeretem, mi se fikázzuk a jetrangert amiből nekik van sok ők se bírájják a kamovot
These helicopters are used for crop spraying jobs. The spraying equipment is missing now, because of the overhaul. Watch my other Kamov video for the equipment.
I'll tell you something: This is the ugliest chopper in the whole wide World. It's cool cause it runs on radials but I've seen cutest choppers in this life.
The Soviet heritage...))) the Good civil helicopter the then.
Vanyaaynav 1 month ago
this thing is awesome...looks like a wasp and sounds cool
xr8dpixel 3 months ago
at 2:46 sounds like a harley -davidson behind a red light!
maydayfire 5 months ago
It looks like it was built with stolen supermarket cart wheels and using 2 harley davidson motorcycle engines.
Amazing animal, NO Tail rotor, 2 counter spining main rotors, looks like a Russian contraption
RDELAPLAZA 5 months ago
What is the endurance ? I fly bell 206's and a full take gives about 2hours and 40 min flying time with a 20 min reserve. The Russians sure have a way with rotorcraft.
BH206L3 1 year ago
Much of its beauty is in its uglyness, if that makes any sense. I'd love to own one of these.
ReflectedImpedance 1 year ago
I think the designers of this helicopter sat down and bet each other who could make the ugliest helicopter. This was the winner. "Let's make it look like it has turbine engines for some reason. Let's invest the money to put contra rotating rotor blades on it but then get cheap when it comes to the engines. Let's make it have less power and more weight. Hell yeah we designers are pure genius."
FJones9508 1 year ago
@FJones9508 >>less power and more weight
Helicopters with coaxial rotors are more powerful and faster, it's obvious fact.
Piston engine consumes less fuel than turbine engine
kibabiba 1 year ago
@kibabiba Well sir you are correct about helicopters with contra rotating blades being faster, they take away the negative effects of retreating blade stall; and your right, piston engines use far less fuel than turbines do. However, the power to weight ration of a turbine vs. a piston engine makes the turbine like 400% more efficient (that's probably an understatement). Go take your "obvious facts" and tell them to someone that doesn't know any better.
FJones9508 1 year ago
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@FJones9508 This is farm tractor that sprays chemicals, it's not Ka-52 ))). Piston engine power is enough for it. BTW Helicopters with coaxial rotors are better for spraying because air flow spreads chemicals uniformly, not only on one side like conventional helicopter do.
kibabiba 1 year ago
Ohhh....it's ugly!
But the sound is perfect!!!!!
raul2662x 1 year ago
A chopper that sounds like a chopper. Get it?
RobBobtron 1 year ago 10
@RobBobtron Yeahhhhhh! :) Absolutely!
czegeny 1 year ago
Dam man its so UGLY xD But its awesome in its way...i like this machine....
nedeljko031 1 year ago
At shut down, it sounded like, it had piston engines.
Yes, I know doesn't....I just said it sounded like it did.
fourtrains 1 year ago 6
@fourtrains The Kamov Ka-26 has two M14-V26 radial piston engines!!! It should sound like piston engines. :)
czegeny 1 year ago 11
Thanks for the reply. I've looked at other pictures of the rotor mast (such as KA-50) and tried to figure out just what is used to move 2 swash-plates apart from one another. It does look pretty complicated.
I'm sure I can find something on some other websites that explains how it all works.
Thanks again.
Skyferret (call me Sky)
skyferret1 2 years ago
It's obvious there's no need for a tail rotor with counter-rotating twin rotors. Question is, how is yaw controlled? An educated guess would tell me that the rudder pedals imply differentiation on the collective between the 2 rotors. Less collective on 1 and more on the other would impose more load on 1 than the other resulting in torque reaction causing yaw. Can anyone concur on this?
skyferret1 2 years ago 4
You're right! Thastwhy is this coax-rotor system so damn complicated. Thanks Mr. N. I. Kamov, you've done it well!
czegeny 2 years ago 5
@skyferret1 You've got it !. They increase collective on one set and reduce on the other. Overall lift doesn't change, but torque does. I've never flown one, but I would think that as you alter the collective you do not need to correct for the torque change with the pedals as in non-contra-rotating types. If you think the control system is complicated, then look into the Chinook. It has a cupboard the size of a single wardrope to house the mechanical mixing system for the swashplates.
ReflectedImpedance 1 year ago
@skyferret1 In the Chinook a collective change alters both sets of blades. To turn say left in the yaw axis, the front rotor is tilted left while the rear rotor is tilted right. For a small amount of forward cyclic, both sets of rotors tilt forward in the normal way, but for a larger control input they ALSO increase collective on the rear rotor system while simultaneously reducing collective on the front rotor system. That must have taken some work on the drawing board !.
ReflectedImpedance 1 year ago
@ReflectedImpedance Thanks for the reply. I've looked at pictures of the KA 50 as well. The rotor mast looks like one complicated piece of equipment. But one thing's for sure; I'd probably settle for a vodka burner over a domestic any time.
skyferret1 1 year ago
@skyferret1 Hmmm...indeed !. I hadn't thought about how the contra-rotating system overcomes the single-rotor problem of retreating blade stall, and hence is not speed-limited like the single-rotor helicopter. Very clever. Now I want one even more !.
ReflectedImpedance 1 year ago
@ReflectedImpedance That's actually a good point. I never thought about that. Yeah, single rotors have speed limitations because of advancing and retreating blades. Now I'm going to sit here and think about this for a while. LOL. My first thought about the physics behind twin rotors in forward flight is how the downward wash from the top rotor affects the lower rotor's advancing and retreating blades. Maybe this is why the 2 rotors seem so far apart as compared to TU 95 propellers.
skyferret1 1 year ago
@skyferret1 BTW, if you do want to pick up your own vodka burner, I'm willing to bet there's tons of old SU 25s laying around (unless you're strictly a die-hard rotor-head). From what I understand, they're built tough so any bad landing is a good one.
skyferret1 1 year ago
5*****!
megatwingo 2 years ago
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thats a skycrane
sddd17 2 years ago
i would say multi purpose
kissodon 2 years ago
petya itt nem a HZSZ volt a pilóta? mert ott áll a régi kocsija a háttérben!
KamovRider 3 years ago
Superb craft, Kamov love their contra rotating blades
filtro6 3 years ago 10
Very cool vintage helicopter. I am a BO105, and Bell 407 pilot. I would love to fly one of these.
jasmine547 3 years ago
You should travel to Hungary, and could be possible! :)
czegeny 3 years ago
Maybe one day I will. Thanks for the comment.
jasmine547 3 years ago
insect ))))
kibabiba 3 years ago
man this heli is a treasure...
beauty with no tail rotor :)
this one in perfect condition, most only 240kW (325hp) thats amazing-
ycats1000 3 years ago
240 kW (325 hp) each engines!
czegeny 3 years ago
Looks like those italian motos with a cabin , but helicopter .
Grilon9 3 years ago
i hear rice popping...
what is the job for that helo anyways, haul cargo containers?
n108bg 3 years ago
Crop spraying.
czegeny 3 years ago
lol
sdrfgvrfgvsfravgdsvS 3 years ago
relax everybody this chopter us tu evgins with pistons this is chipper then turbo and used in soviet timse for milicia (polis)and kolhosi (farms of goverment) ;)))))
aflads 3 years ago
úú de elmennék 1 iylennel pár percre repülni :D
Bulldoser11 3 years ago
de a kamovok budaörsről szálnak fel??? mert én már csomoszór voltam ott és még nem láttam öket:(amúgy meg télleg ne már csak az amcsik írjanak hanem a magyarok is
BadGamer01 3 years ago
hurm, sounds like my chevy with no mufflers
italyencracka 3 years ago
search after the Kolibri a german heli from ww2, was taken by the yanks so did the russians
HonorZAkrew 4 years ago
Kamov has co-axial rotors, not intermeshing-tandem rotors like Kaman K-MAX, USA.
czegeny 4 years ago
great video of an enigmatic aircraft.There,s a beautifully restored example with its passenger pod in interflug colours located at the helicopter museumat weston super mare in somerset. Its a great little aircraft and can link its heritage right up to todays KA52 werewolf.
p168ugo 4 years ago
sok hülye külföldi életébe nem látott még kamovot meg valószínű nem is fog aztán hatalmas véleményeket mondenak róla...nem szeretem, mi se fikázzuk a jetrangert amiből nekik van sok ők se bírájják a kamovot
KamovRider 4 years ago
What do they use this for?
Looks like a mini skycrane
team222badbrad 4 years ago
These helicopters are used for crop spraying jobs. The spraying equipment is missing now, because of the overhaul. Watch my other Kamov video for the equipment.
czegeny 4 years ago
I'll tell you something: This is the ugliest chopper in the whole wide World. It's cool cause it runs on radials but I've seen cutest choppers in this life.
p4lestina 4 years ago
I would LOVE to be so rich I could own one just for the fun of it!!!
a2g6d4k8 4 years ago
You shouldn't be so rich, this helicopter is Russian, so it has quarter price than a Bell helicopter.
czegeny 4 years ago
yeah it has the look of the "HORMONE" anti submarine warfare helicopter I have seen pictures of.
a2g6d4k8 4 years ago
Jajj de imádom a kamovokat! Még az An-2 eseket is
hathathatkilenckilen 4 years ago
can somebody tell me where i can find graphics how the kamov main rotor works?Please!!!
mirabellese 4 years ago
strange to hear both the radials and also the turbine like whine
Love the idle at the end
bushpig205 4 years ago
You are right, you can hear radial and jet noises too!
The "jet noise" comes from cooling fan of the engine.
czegeny 4 years ago
wwhat the nutz, is that jet engines on the sides?
baolinh111 4 years ago
no, they are radial piston engines with 9 cylinder (M14-V26).
czegeny 4 years ago