The Christian Case for Ron Paul: Tom Woods on Iowa Talk Radio (Steve Deace Show)

[themusicmaiden1]

How can we reach the masses of Christian voters, with this type of video; and help them see that Ron Paul is the scripture abiding Christian,that we need to lead our nation ??

[slumberingsam]

Tom Woods is awesome!

[ArisingWarrior]

in reference to the comments from rctube1958 . (Romans 13;1) Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

[skatinordyin]

the bible says there will be an AntiChrist that says hes christian but that he will "predict" things and then turn the world to believe in him..not the Lord. then eventually take over the world. Not saying this is RP but it's something to think about!

[iwanttocrashmybike]

One can always hope for good dope=-)

RP FTW

[fanspeed56]

oh please this Dease guy is your typical consevation Chickenhawk. Want to talk about the constitution dude? Than step up to the plate put on a uniform and take that oath to defend the constitution. otherwise just shut- up coward

[matahaari]

Since Tom brought up it up, this documentary offers a little better insight into the Iranian people. It’s different than the views we may have based on the perspective we get from the media. /watch?v=D61uriEGsIM

[AreaOfThoughts]

God says all sex outside of a man and woman marriage is a sin. So if the federal government legislates homosexuality, they have to legislate fornication and adultery too. It's just not the roll of Federal Government to address the issue one way or the other. Christians make a huge mistake separating homosexuality outside of fornication, adultery, and other sexual immorality.

[ElCangri137]

To uphold the Constitution 'is' to be a theocrat. Our first amendment was ratified to protect religious establishment. Whoever is 'not' a theocrat is the one against the Constitution.

[MrDeppness]

@TheCrookedTimber Ron Paul is all of that. Yes, they are theocrats, but that is only today. People seem to come around after you drive the truth home long enough. And the truth is, RON PAUL IS MORE LIKE JESUS THAN ANY POLITICIAN ON EARTH. Even Atheists respect Jesus, regardless of how much they make fun of the hypochristians.

[Sistarovat]

@Sessylius Who ever said anything about judging sodomites as a collective body? George Washington kicked soldiers out of the Continental Army if they were found to be queers. If a soldier is found to be committing adultery, he gets the boot, if he is found to be engaging in something (in his private life) that goes against army regulations, he gets the boot. All I'm saying is Clinton should have never invented Don't Ask Don't Tell in the first place and sodomy should still be against army regs.

[MrDeppness]

Sorry, I think Tom Woods is a bright guy, but he's too long-winded and ineffective at defending Ron Paul as the champion of Christianity.

You want to win the christian vote? Here goes:

Ron Paul is a man of biblical principle. He does what is right for God's glory, even when the status quo pharisees reject him. Like Jesus, he is a man of peace, patience, and understanding. He leads by example, not brute force. He believes God made man to be free to choose and responsible for their choices.

[utubehayter]

@MrDeppness

Like Jesus?.. yep that semi-cultist statement is going to win over the christian vote.

[MrDeppness]

@utubehayter You think Jesus was a favorite during his time? He had haters for being the example. It's annoying always being right. People want another to be wrong once in a while. It's less embarrassing to the egomaniacs who think they are better when they're not. Ron Paul's class and dignity is all around miraculous. His professional and personal life is spotless. Everything he does, he does for what is right, not what he can gain. Start paying attention. He's a dying breed.

[utubehayter]

@MrDeppness

Right.. but you don't want to enter blasphemous territory. The cult is really territorial over that.

[MrDeppness]

@utubehayter What blasphemous territory? What cult? What are you talking about?

[MrDeppness]

@utubehayter When wasn't semi-anything. It is what it is. If you want the most Christ-like candidate, Ron Paul is your man. He leads by example, not rhetoric. And he is consistent and cannot be bought. People are seeing this now.

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@Sessylius We being the body in the Messiah are supposed to take care of each other just as they did in the early church. But we don't, so the only substitute is through our Gov't in my opinion. Also, just because we have free will doesn't mean everything we do is beneficial, just as Paul pointed out.

[Sistarovat]

@Sessylius Should chronic adulterers now petition the government for a redress of grievances? After all, their "equal justice" and "civil rights" are being violated when they get caught cheating on their spouse and get the military boot.

[Sistarovat]

@Sessylius The Commander-In-Chief has that authority, but I believe he should not exercise when it comes to defining morality in the military. Furthermore, if adulterous sexual intercourse can be proven, a well-trained, non-disruptive soldier can be discharged. Why? Because adultery is immoral and an adulterer, no matter how good a shot is a reflection on the military. Adultery pales in comparison to sexual perversion. A welcomed, sodomite soldier is a reflection of a perverse society.

[MrCoolahhead]

too bad most evangelicals are dispensationalist and therefore christian zionist.they are more likely to follow the israel first crowd(mistery babolon first)

[Sistarovat]

@BadgeringTheWitness1 Well, I was referring primarily to his personal beliefs on homosexuality. Yes, sodomy laws are a 10th amendment issue. But the thing I disagree with is his vote to let homos openly join the armed forces. That's like letting male and female troops sleep and shower with one another considering homosexuals' sick lust for people of the same sex. That's an issue that I believe each branch of the military should have dealt with independently, not Congress and the president.

[Sistarovat]

As a Bible-believer who supports Ron Paul and intends to vote for him, something that needs to be stated is that I and anyone who believes the Bible cannot agree with everything Ron Paul supports. Ron Paul is simply not doctrinally sound on some issues such as sodomy. But another thing that we need to understand is that there is NO candidate running who is Biblically sound on everything. When you weigh the pros against the cons in every candidate from a Biblical perspective, Ron Paul wins out.

[BadgeringTheWitness1]

@Sistarovat Not sure what you're talking about. First point, I believe Paul has said that issues such as sodomy are 10th amendment issues. Secondly, as a libertarian, Paul is probably against such a draconian crackdown; however, the difference is not the morality/immorality of sodomy per se, it is the morality/immorality of using FORCE to prohibit the practice. Laws are not suggestions, they are force. The second issue is what libertarianism as a political idea tries to deal with.

[conservativetothecor]

Excellent dialoge. And he covers many things that never get addressed honestly by most in Washington.

[SuperSneakySteve]

Tom Woods, like a boss!

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

Yeah but...Ron Paul also wants to legalize drugs.

[tewj57]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts Which is obviously the correct constitutional position. But you're saying the Christian response to drug abuse, which actually fell in Portgual when various drugs were decriminalized, is to condemn the kid to a life of prison rape?

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@tewj57 No prison is not a righteous system, I'm not pro-prison at all. I just don't think its a great idea to make drugs more readily accessible.

[Coldshot89]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts

Quote me where the constitution states that the federal government will have complete jurisdiction over what an american citizen can put in their body.

Grow up.

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@Coldshot89 Hey I didn't make the rules, i just don't think its a great idea to make all drugs easier to obtain. I'm not against marijuana but I sure wouldn't want meth, coke, or heroin to be legal.

[Coldshot89]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts

I would rather have every free man be able to walk to a corner store and get their drugs (coincidentally like alcohol) over them having to go to the black market or some gangster and fund that criminality.

We legalize drugs, they become dirt cheap, no gangs can get funding. That simple.

Besides, just because they are easier to obtain doesn't mean people will indulge in them. I can already get cocaine, heroine, etc, I chose not to. Like yourself probably.

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@Coldshot89 See I disagree, I think more people would be willing to just try these harder drugs if they were legal. Just like ciggs, any addictive substance can start socially and then become an addiction.

[Coldshot89]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts

Well as long as people don't make their drug problem my tax problem then I don't care. Besides think about the incentive to work hard and give everyday your most sober effort if you can keep your money and raise your family in freedom as God intended.

Drugs are escapism tools and most people need to escape this nightmare of a situation we are in socially and economically.

Let's revert back to conservative Christian traditions and we will be healthy again.

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@Coldshot89 Well I wouldn't go as far as to say all drugs are escapism tools. There is drugs with medicinal purposes.

However, I don't mind the Gov't using my tax dollars to improve the well being of others. The body as a whole is supposed to be taking care of its brethren and it doesn't. At this point it becomes a matter of what do we want our tax dollars to be used on.

[twk373]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts

"Drugs" have been legal throughout the entire history of Christian civilization. It's not until a few short decades ago that a few overzealous social engineers thought that the best method to reduce drug use was to criminalize it.

The experiment has been a miserable failure and does far more evil than what it purported to cure.

All Christians know that the way you create moral behavior is through a strong family and church structure. Not through political legislation.

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@twk373 Actually the early Christian church vehemently opposed and rejected drugs.

[twk373]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts

If/when you decide to pay careful attention to what I wrote and/or to what I was responding, you may discover that the key word is "legality."

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@twk373 Sorry I must have read too far into it, I thought you were insinuating that because they used to be legal, that meant they were accepted as ok by the Christian church. Which simply isn't that case. I can respect ones opinion that what they do in their own home (to their own bodies) should not be regulated by the Gov't. But I'm not going to support the legalization of destructive substances, such as heroin, coke, meth, ect. Marijuana and other psychoactive drugs are fine with me.

[GlorytoYHWHofHosts]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts the case*

[twk373]

@GlorytoYHWHofHosts

Fair enough. However, it bears pointing out that a big reason the more dangerous drugs are so dangerous is because the ban incentives producers to create purer (that is, more bang for the weight) strains, in order to make them easier to bring to market without being detected.

[ONLYRonPaul1]

"…we just don't have the COURAGE to use those tools…" YES!!! We have lost ALL independent thinking and courage in this country. If everyone could just stop following like lemmings and THINK about Ron Paul, then GET THE COURAGE to stand up for what is right, Ron Paul would be our next president. I sure hope this brave attitude finally soaks in to everyone soon.

[goldeneggify]

Dr. Paul knows our biggest foreign enemy is right here on our soil and occupied our monetary system in 1913... the private, international Federal Reserve, its Bankster Cabal and all their corrupted, paid off minions in positions of authority must be surgically removed from power. Infiltrate the system with Liberty and Justice. Please get politicaaly active to take our Republic back and vote Ron Paul, Commander in Chief, 2012.

[gunner23]

How can Christian say Ron Paul is the right vote?? Scripture is quite clear, God will judge those nations that divide up Isreal. Ron Paul would almost certainly work towards dividing up the land for a separate Palestinian state. His domestic policy is good but his foriegn policy is straight from the pit of hell. Theres no way with his isolationist stance would he help the Christians that are being persecuted in Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Nigeria, China, Libya, Tunisia, Pakistan.

[wood9670]

@gunner23, Ron Paul does not want to meddle in the affairs of other countries so his administration would NOT take an active role in mediating the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

As to him "helping" Christians around the world, what exactly would you see him do? Bomb those countries? I am sure the bombs will magically distinguish between the fateful and heathen.

Would you like sanctions & trade embargoes? I am sure no innocents will suffer a lower standard of living at all.

[DRNevans]

@gunner23 The classical, orthodox, non-heretical Christian view is that Old Testament shadows give way to New testament realities. "Israel" today is the household of believers. This was the undisputed Christian view for over 1800 years.

[gunner23]

@DRNevans Whats your point?

[DRNevans]

@gunner23 That you hold a position that would have been recognized by no Christian for the first 1880 or so years of Christianity. The idea that "Israel" would still refer to a physical plot of land runs completely counter to the Christian understanding of the Old and New Testaments. You are still looking for the physical things of the Old Testament, but the whole point of the New is to spiritualize those things, not stay fixated on their territorial embodiment. The church is the new Israel.

[1776Rosco]

God Bless and Protect Ron Paul!

End the madness, vote Ron Paul 2012 or BU$T !!

[pauladamkim]

You want to see the end time harvest? Ron Paul will get the government out of your way so YOU can do the evangelizing. We cannot evangelize or legislate righteousness through laws. We must have the freest society possible, so we have the most latitude to do the Lord's work. Get government out of marriage, the family, the bedroom, the kitchen cabinet, and everything altogether!

[mike6459]

comparing Iran to Hitler's Germany...what an ignoramus as are most Americans regardless of faith. Isreal has 0ver 300 nuclear warheads...Iranians are not fools.

[bsg1206]

Tom Woods for president!

[wood9670]

@bsg1206, he would actually be a far better debater than Ron Paul.

[gemniprincess]

what happened to "love your neighbor", "do not unto others, what you do not want done unto you". how would u like it if other countries put sanctions on the US and the people of the country starve to death. let's not be blind to our country's own horrific actions that cause innocent lives all around the world. Friendship is not a bad thing. Not all people (yes, even Iranians) are bad. i would rather have a friend than an enemy anytime.

[rctube1958]

Christian reasons for supporting Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is against using gov't to transform society.

Christ sent disciples to preach to the people, not to influence gov't officials.

Satan offered Jesus dominion over gov'ts. Why? Satan can give what he controls.

There are NO positive references to gov't in the Bible.

Gov't power corrupted Saul, David and Solomon.

Early Christianity spread by appealing to people's hearts and souls. Not by using gov't.

RP embodies the best of Christianity.

[brendanmcwilliams]

@rctube1958

You are right about that. I am an athiest, or rather agnostic who sees religion as what is wrong with the world today.

However, Ron Paul has brought out what makes religion superior and almost necessary in life and society (sadly, the stark contrast of what warmongering, racist, evil neo-cons bring out in religion).

Ron Paul likely would make people at odds with religion more receptive, as the good principles RP preaches like the golden rule, peace, etc are popular

[rctube1958]

This interview highlights the main confusion of conservatives. They "conserve" whatever has been passed on to them, as Tom points out with marriage.. They do not try to reconcile their beliefs with what is Christian. So rather than delve into RP's CHRISTIAN beliefs, the interviewer spends 2/3 of the interview arguing the military case against Iran. On homosexuality, do you think Christ would have been for gov't edicts against it? That is the essence of RP's position.

[rctube1958]

How is talking about Iran Christian? Some Christians confuse Christ with the military-industrial complex. Also, if the gov't is bad for most things, why doesn't this include its use of the military?

[YoungIvyScholar]

Excuse me, the Boy Scouts are not private entirely. They receive assistance from the government. Therefore, they should be forced to take out religion and homophobia from their organization OR stop taking government assistance. Take your pick. I'd prefer they wouldn't be homophobic AND they wouldn't take welfare.

[mjhonsun]

@YoungIvyScholar I vote not only that they stop taking government assistance but that, since it is unauthorized by the Constitution, the government be prohibited from influencing private and cultural groups by giving any of them money.

[TokenLibertarianGirl]

Great job Tom!

[sedj4wd]

Please Help Just take the time see if you Care For Your America !

If This Is Wrong i will kiss your ass !

[RonPaulFlix]

Posted on Ron Paul Flix - DEFEATING THE MEDIA BLACKOUT SINCE 2007!

[fr3aky0u]

Thx for posting this!

[joeblowmha]

yea but Ron Paul dose not want to bomb IRAN. murdering muslims is the christain thing to do.

[D10SdelFutbol]

Common sense needs this philosophical war people!!

[katsfanman]

amen!

[AntiFed1791]

Iran - let's compare: Wars of aggression in the last 10 years: America 7 and counting : Iran 0. Look at a map sometime and consider how Iran is effectively surrounded by American forces. Consider for a moment that it is possible that Americans have been lied to and duped into fighting wars of aggression for the benefit of the international bankers and their interests.

[Attau1986]

Tom you are one of the best debaters in the liberty movement and are an inspiration to activists and autodidacts everywhere.  En grade statist scum!

[jcb1416]

Great job, I wish you mentioned operation ajax (the coup in 53),and the propaganda that adenamejad said wipe israel off the map,wich he never said. Jesus was know as the "prince of peace" not "the lord of war" I'll let you borrow that one. Keep up the good fight!

[andhehorseurodeinon]

Heaven forbid we do the Christian thing and try to love our enemies, and pray for those who persecute you. What kind of left wing hippie talk is that?

[IcyScythe]

@andhehorseurodeinon seriously!

[charles43110]

Every Christian VOTER needs to hear this dialoge. Best examination of RON PAUL posted on YOUTUBE.

[Eye2EyeIIIV]

@charles43110

yeah!!! if ppl actually LOOK at this man's past, he's no puppet!!

Every President after Reagan has tortured the Constitution - call Dr. Paul to revive it!

[1badmonster]

@Eye2EyeIIIV After Reagan? Think you should a little closer at what Reagan did. Try this for beginners, executive agreements. These are nothing but treaties by another name, but used by presidents, including Reagan to bypass the USC which requires going to the congress (the Senate in particular). What about what the CIA did in South America under Reagan? What about the Justice Dept., and CERCLA witchhunts? Insider trading witchhunts?