HonestReporting Podcast 10: Flotilla of violence

[Disturbedfan009]

the media is about as credible as tmz islam is not a religion of peace read the qur an most muslims are peaceful but islam is not

[Leinad28mirup]

 am pro-Israel however, I am disgusted with honest reporting. They are anything but HONEST. My sister donated alot of money to them and one of the reporters Elad Rubin targeted her. We haven't seen her for 3 years, his family brainwashed her against her own family and stole our family business in London. When we asked Aryeh Green, an American, Elad's boss in honest reporting to help, he was very abusive and rude. We even helped Aryeh Green get media exposure on revelation tv (christian zionists

[Leinad28mirup]

am pro-Israel however, I am disgusted with honest reporting. They are anything but HONEST. My sister donated alot of money to them and one of the reporters Elad Rubin targeted her. We haven't seen her for 3 years, his family brainwashed her against her own family and stole our family business in London. When we asked Aryeh Green, an American, Elad's boss in honest reporting to help, he was very abusive and rude. We even helped Aryeh Green get media exposure on revelation tv (christian zionists

[saadasim]

The pinko/leftist/liberal media has it all wrong. A bunch of Israeli commandos were taking a stroll along the deck in the middle of the night, taking in some sea air, when they were ambushed by Hamas and Al Qaeda terrorists wielding knives and forks (and even some spoons also). They had to defend themselves with small nuclear devices. The destruction of Cyprus was regrettable, but justified.

[rjayousi]

they where at international water they have the right to defense them selfs and the blockade is illegal for the u.n and trucks go in gaza like just 10 weekly or less or more bit

[PepsiCola613]

Well done!!! They will never accept the truth

You must see this one as well

watch?v=V-PFXWdH7_w

[Mayushi09]

FIRST PHOTOGRAPHS OF IDF SOLDIERS ATTACKED, from Turkish newspaper:

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Is this how a soldier with an automatic weapon, attacking "innocent civilians" ends up? NO. IS THIS WHAT YOU CALL "PEACE ACTIVISTS"???

SPREAD THIS ASAP, PEOPLE.

[ChorniyKot]

Mavi Marmara passengers Want to Be a Shahid

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[livewire891]

@RebelRay I was talkin specifically about this vid but yeah thnkx, I'll do that...

[avivbnn]

NEXT is Email sent as reply to my comments in YouTube, this is the type of Islamic language, this is how Islamic this people behave !!!!!

michaeljohn610 has sent you a message: egypt is the best of the best

who is terrorist,fuck ur mother ,u r idiot ...if im terrorist so who r u????????israel means terrorism any way may i hurt ur feelings and tell u that im egyptian ...hahahahaha remember egypt ,,,the only country that fucked israel

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[hinanochick]

To Herbertwarmstrong, OH MY GoD! did you say GAYS?? oh sweet jesus GAY! that is why israel is the enemy now i got it thanks for that enlightenment

[MrsGlugga]

and even if they had weapons on board? so the israelis are allowed to be armed but any other person of any other nationality doesnt have the right to be armed or protect himself? enough of the pathetic excuses and double standards the world is well and truly sick of it.

[zarghroth]

@MrsGlugga

I didn't know you were the ambassador of the world.

And I rather wouldn't have these backward groups armed.

[MrsGlugga]

@zarghroth and i rather wouldn't have fascist zionist extremist armed. and ambassador of the world? it's called an opinion mate, or is that something else, along with defence and free speech that only zionist extremists allowed to have?

[zarghroth]

@MrsGlugga you said 'the world is well and truly sick of it". Thats means you decided to give everyone in the world your opinion..

If there is a blockade and the israeli decide to come visit your ship thats trying to go through the blockade dont do stupid shit.

It doesn't matter who is or is not allowed to have guns at that point, it's just a matter of shutting the fuck up and letting the man with the gun do the talking else you're gonna get shot.

[guyba7]

i like these video finally some truth!!

[erezhalfon1]

סוף סוף מישהו בתקשורת מדבר לעניין

[VLbadboyVL07]

Well Well..They have the right to protect themselves while they are on International Waters. Why does Israeli's take over the boat while they are on International Waters? They dont have the right to do that. So thats why the people on the boat attacked them.

[RebelRay]

@VLbadboyVL07 According to the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflict, "Merchant vessels believed on reasonable grounds to be breaching a blockade may be captured. Merchant vessels which, after prior warning, clearly resist capture may be attacked."

[livewire891]

Quote "they're going to be pushing the propaganda line" - I'm sorry, this video in itself is propaganda. If you were willing to give acurate facts without being biased or slanting ur msg my opinion would be different. Give the facts and let the people make up there own minds.

Before I get flamed, let me state that I'm neither for or against Israel and the same applies to Hammas - I'm against this kinda of media.

You are no better than "those who hate Israel" - honest reporting indeed...

[RebelRay]

@livewire891 "Give the facts and let the people make up there own minds."

They've done that on their website. Go check it.

[smekese]

oh shut the fuck up.. that was a act of terror....

[RebelRay]

@smekese You are so right. They are not mere "peace activists".

[lieberat]

To these reporters... go back into your mothers birth canals !

[lieberat]

Come on ! Most of the Media ... is wrong saying that there was a massacre ... n u r right ?

Bull Shit ! But u quote what Israel says, to point out Israel is right ?

F OFF !

[RebelRay]

@lieberat Why not? To give the Israeli point of view. Only fair to hear both sides.

[lieberat]

@RebelRay Reporting does not takes sides nor does it have point of views. Its facts ! 

[lieberat]

@lieberat just to add... there's also selective reporting which is done here.

There's not mention of what happened before this where, an Israel Gunboat fired shots. The helicopter from above too, as well as tear gas. Btw, who sends Commandos to attack a civilian boat ? Where's the coast guard ? Why didn't they sent a civilian representative to engage a civilian HUMANITARIAN boat ?

[Mayushi09]

@lieberat

Just so you know - the army was sent in because it is the only force with authority to operate in international waters in such a situation.... meaning, in a situation where a military blockade is threatened by civilians, who refuse to pass through the appropriate channels.

[lieberat]

@Mayushi09 The blockade is ILLEGAL !

[Mayushi09]

@lieberat

The blockade is LEGAL, according to the international laws of armed conflict, because Hamas is a ruling entity who is engaged in an armed conflict with Israel. Israel is following the letter of the law here, and that is why the blockade IS legal. As is the raid, consequently.

Read the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, like I did, before speaking untruths or outright lies.

Or, if you're lazy:

reuters(dot)com/article/idUSTR­E65133D20100602

[luv5e1]

@lieberat INTERNATIONAL LAWS: THE BLOCKADE IS LEGAL!

[plsheaf]

The majority of main media outlets in the UK should hang their heads in shame at the way they have reported this incident, it's bad enough that in the arab world there has always been a perpetuated drip feed of lies in the media "remember Comical Ali?". It seems that over the past 15 years or so the British reporters have sunk to the level of their arab counterparts in ignorance and a inability to distinguish truth from fiction.

[clarencepaul]

It is very obvious who the culprits were in this picture and what really happened;

if hate could be weighed; it would have weighed more than their cargo; no one is

expected to run a blockade; because of over 12,000 missiles being fired at them;

I believe they reserve the right to inspect any ship on the high seas near their country; to refuse to stop is to admit guilt.

[MrBillTroop73]

As I understand it, Egypt is part of that blockade? Yet the mainstream media make no mention of that.

[Maria4095]

Canadianspunge:  That is no that simple!!!

Hatred comes from evil people.

I know many people who love Jews.

[herbertwarmstrong]

Whatever Israel does will be wrong. The ramifications of this is yet more Islamic fury, they not only pick on the Jews but bad mouth the Christians as well these days. We are living in dangerous times.

[lovemy2babies]

Thank you Honest Reporting for trying to spread the truth rather than hatred!

[aeroflying]

It's simple. The operators of the flotilla boat were given ample warning to not trespass the blockade. They chose to not heed that warning and they experienced the consequences of that decision.

[martinadu]

Thank God for honest reporting! It's ridiculous, the venom spewed all over the media

May the truth prevail.

[clarencepaul]

@martinadu 

[Canadianspunge]

It's amazing how many Israel supporters there are commenting on this video. I guess if you look in the right places, there are informed people.

Great report, by the way.

[Maria4095]

How come almost all the media are lying.!!! Do not they know that those palestinians are killers, that almost all of them are tought to kill innocent people?

One thing I know for sure!!! God will not accept so much hatred against his people.

[Canadianspunge]

@Maria4095 Israel is really easy to hate because people have hated Jews since the beginning of time. It's that simple 

[thetaxmancometh]

Thank you gentlemen for your outstanding reporting Am Yisroel Chai.

[FrostieTeddi]

Do americans know so much of thier tax money is going to support israel? The world has realised what Israel is like, nazi germany! How can these people treat human beings with such hate. Israel is hated throughout the world and its funded by the american tax payer. People of America use your money to help your own people and not these nazi murdering scum!

[irishxxkelt]

@FrostieTeddi Israel has had 10,000 rockets from Gaza since they handed over land for peace. Some peace! Israel supplies electricity to Gaza, the only country which powers its enemy. Gazan children are treated in Israeli hospitals so get your facts right.

[FrostieTeddi]

@irishxxkelt Israel stole the land off the palestinians. The electricity and everything else is funded by america. Israel scrounge money from the west and use it to kill people. If it were not for israel there would never have been 9/11. Israel = nazi. Israel = hate. Israel = oppression. Israel give nothing but hate and what it does give is paid for by the american tax payer.

[irishxxkelt]

@FrostieTeddi I wonder how often I have to give a history of the 19th and the 20th century? The Ottoman authorities would not have allowed people to steal land nor would the British. What an asinine statement to say if it wasn't for Israel 9/11 would not have happened. The hatred for the Jews started when Mohammed was rejected by the Jews and Christians as a prophet therefore he made the destruction of the Jews a doctrine. Hitler's best friend was the Mufti of Jerusalem.....

[7KEDDY7]

@irishxxkelt G-D SAYS THAT I WILL MAKE ISRAEL A STUMBLING BLOCK FOR ALL THE NATIONS YET ANYONE WHO COMES AGAINST HER G-D WILL CUT DOWN!! MOHAMMED NEVER MADE ANYTHING BUT A BAD NAME FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FOLLOWERS. GET IT RIGHT.

[irishxxkelt]

@7KEDDY7 KEDDY7 I am on your side.

[herbertwarmstrong]

@FrostieTeddi Racism isn't exactly a sin. Jesus called a Samaritan woman a "dog" at the well. And Jesus only ever went to the lost tribes of Israel and the House of Judah (today's Jews). Today's society is babylon, we all mix together in some cosmopolitan hell hole. The nations were separated by Jehovah and they were meant to be kept apart.

[irishxxkelt]

@herbertwarmstrong Where did Jesus called a Samaritan woman a dog? Chapter and verse please. Jesus went into what is now Lebanon and preached there. He ordered his followers to preach the Good News to the whole world. He healed pagan Romans as well.

[clarencepaul]

@irishxxkelt you won't find it; Jesus being the divine creator never has called anyone a dog; he did not go into lebanon either; the gospel was first to the jews;

he came first to the house of Israel; jews were the first christians in the first century;

he commanded all christians to go into all nations and preach the gospel; matthew 28:19.

[irishxxkelt]

@clarencepaul I said he never called any woman a dog. He did indeed go into Lebanon although it was no longer the ancient Lebanon,

Mark 7:24 & 26.

Jesus left that place and went to the vicinity of Tyre.......the woman was a Greek,born in Syrian Phoenicia.

Mark 7:31

Then Jesus left the vicinity of Tyre and went through Sidon, down to the Sea of Galiliee and into the region of the Decapolis.

[herbertwarmstrong]

@irishxxkelt Jesus said, "for it is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the little dogs" (Mark 7:27) to which the Greek woman replied, "Yes Lord yet even the little dogs under the table eat from the children's crumbs.". In essence Jesus called the Greek woman a dog, she perceived that even dogs can understand truth (eat crumbs).

[irishxxkelt]

@clarencepaul The first believers were Jews and Greeks and some Roman officers. You need to study the Gospels and you need to study Paul as he stated that there was no difference between Jew and Greek, men and woman, slave or free.

[herbertwarmstrong]

@irishxxkelt Jesus said, "for it is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the little dogs" (Mark 7:27) to which the Greek woman replied, "Yes Lord yet even the little dogs under the table eat from the children's crumbs.". In essence Jesus called the Greek woman a dog, she perceived that even dogs can understand truth (eat crumbs). Jesus commands His disciples not to preach to the gentiles but only "lost sheep of Israel" (Matthew 10:5-6). Jesus OWN WORDS!

[herbertwarmstrong]

@irishxxkelt Really, I despair at Christians today, they don't study their own bibles like we were forced to in the 1980s! Jesus commands His disciples not even to enter a Gentile City, but preach only to Israel. Matthew 10:5-6: "..Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying, "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." It was the Apostle Paul who went to the gentiles not Jesus.

[irishxxkelt]

@herbertwarmstrong Well as a person who was brought up a Catholic I only started to own a personal Bible in the 80s.

[7KEDDY7]

@herbertwarmstrong KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BEFORE YOU SAY IT!! JESUS NEVER CALLED ANYONE A DOG. THE LADY OFFERED HIM A DRINK OF WATER AND HE BLESSED HER FOR THAT. WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU READING??

[herbertwarmstrong]

@irishxxkelt Even though I generally support Israel, it has become a "sodom and egypt" in these Last days (Rev 11:8). Rather than being a light to the world it plunges the world into darkness. What did Jesus say to treat our enemies? Feed them and clothe them, that way, it will heap coals of fire on their heads!

[irishxxkelt]

@herbertwarmstrong Exactly how has Israel become a totally homosexual society? "It plunges the world into darkness". What about North Korea which would have no qualms about sending nuclear warheads? Did you listen to this? Food and other goods are brought into Gaza each week.

[clarencepaul]

@herbertwarmstrong For Israel not to be Christian; they are far from being sodom;

remember haiti ? Israel was there; any arab nations ? none in sight; Israel set up the only field hospital there, while we were trying to get our act together in confusion.

[irishxxkelt]

@clarencepaul No Muslims want to help non-Muslims. Everyone else is Kuffar

[herbertwarmstrong]

@clarencepaul Do I need to be Jeremiah the Prophet to spell it out to you? Zionism is not Torah based, in fact it is a secular political ideal that promotes gay rights (with the Gay parade in Jerusalem), attacks G-d fearing Rabbis, and takes away the religious responsibilities of the Jews. The leaders in Israel has already signed away Jerusalem to the Vatican in a secret deal, and those leaders in Israel do not represent Torah based Jews. Their goal is to destroy true Judaism.

[Kurtlane]

Excellent report.

[gashek42]

Right response to the provocateurs. They are not interested in peace. They are not interested in Palestinians. They simply hate Jews and will find any reason - whatever - to express it and to spread it. If there is global warming - blame the Jew. If there's global cooling - blame the Jew. And media is full of them.

[saadasim]

Yes those conniving victims are really something aren't they? It's always been that way, murder victims practically asking for a chalk outline to be drawn around their prostate, blood-soaked corpse to make the murderer look even worse, and of course those concentration camp prisoners parading themselves, conveniently almost starved of course, at the barbed wire fences for the left-wing media and their hoodwinked readers to gawk at.

[curmudgeonNOT]

Ships try to run an overt, fully announced, blockade. The Israelis would have been fully justified in simply sinking them all. Rather, they boarded under ROI that opened up their SEALS to danger and, it turns out, injury and death from the terrorists on the flotilla that few military organizations would tolerate, trying to avoid casulties. And were attacked. Any other view is pro-Hamas propaganda. Do remember that Hamas is labeled, internationally and not just by Israel, as terrorist

[CatskillCat]

Not to worry, folks. In the eyes of the world, nothing Israel does or will ever do will be right. Nothing to discuss. It'll be this way until the Messiah comes!

[desobasta]

YOU KNOW : they fooled the idf. Idf underestimated the enemy. Idf did not take into account the field disadvantage in a boat filled up with protesters. When you are thousands times stronger, you must predict and take very seriously your small enemy, if not, be ready to use over power and accept the enemy will play the part of the victim.

War is on a media stage and the protesters defeated IDF.

WE must admit it.

[masercot]

Nice propoganda, boys. Israel has been criminal and girls like you have a buttload of excuses all prepared for WHATEVER they do. You are disgraceful...

[skanemermaid]

I agree that there's political motivation here. But the advice about using the Ashdod port and trusting that the humanitarian aid will reach Gaza is laughable.

[AlyBlack]

@skanemermaid

The aid is on its way already. Along with all the aid from Israel (who supplies food and medicine etc. to a gov't that wants to murder every Israeli) and the UN, europe etc. Where is the reason for Hamas to give up its murderous ways if its supported and coddled?

[michaelryder2]

gotta admit - turkey with their friend iran sure got iranian nukes off the front burner with this setup

[PandemicMadness]

media whores. Islamist-Leftist camp loves media attention. Turks want a piece of the pie too.

[PandemicMadness]

ships full of cheap ass propaganda. 

[irishxxkelt]

@PandemicMadness I call the Islamists wannabe Jihadis and the rest muppets

[dolphinak]

Finally, voices of reason. I would have liked to have heard your voiceover the playing footage. American stands with Israel!

[Phillyguy0202]

Thanks for you work Honest Reporting - truly important that you continue to spread truths.

[saadasim]

Self defense is only the right of Israel with its 300 nukes? The boat passengers that were in international waters "armed" with sticks and marbles have no right of self defense and should have willingly become slaves of the IDF.

[Lagolop]

HAM ASS and haters of Israel and Jews will do anything in an attempt to garner sympathy from bleeding heart liberal assholes. I saw a vid showing arabs from gaza suffocating day old chicks, claiming the Israelis were not allowing food in to feed them or electricity to heat them. The truth will come out. If this happened to any other country it would be a different story. God bless Israel.

[SisterSunnshine]

Good video. Truth exposed.

[michaelryder2]

@saadasim-Western Anti-Semites- another example of Lenin's Useful Idiots of the West.Israel is an endangered island of modern civilization in a raging medieval sea. The North Koreans sunk a South Korean ship and the streets of the world were not full of protestors!

[b77097]

@michaelryder2 "Israel is an endangered island of modern civilization in a raging medieval sea."

Very well put, sir.

[ztfilm]

Thank You, really appreciate the honest reporting!

[saadasim]

Israel attacked an unarmed boat (in international waters) that was trying to get through an illegal blockade......

Israel then killed 10 people, blocked communications from/to the boat and then dragged boat into an Israeli port.

And Israel claims Self-Defense?!



[edgkemp]

@saadasim haven't you seen the video, which clearly shows how "peaceful" those demostrators on that boat? those who died in the incident have only themselves and their leaders/organizers (especially the turkish pm erdogan) to blame!

[saadasim]

@edgkemp What part of International Waters do you not understand?

[thlayli417]

@saadasim

would it make you happy if the same events transpired in Israeli waters?

[saadasim]

@thlayli417 If it happened in Israeli waters, then Israel would have been justified in boarding the ship. As the ship was in International waters, this was simply a case of piracy and murder.

[thlayli417]

@saadasim

sophistry, my dear friend. Sheer sophistry. It is clear from your tone and your other posts that you would have been equally aghast no matter where the incident would have happened.

In fact, any naval blockade of a war time enemy involves intercepting ships in the international waters. However, by a strict definition, the given incident took place in the exclusive economic zone of Israel (within 200 nautical miles of its shore).

[AlyBlack]

@saadasim

What part of blockaide do you not understand. Aid is welcome, after being screened. Civilians have no right to make gov't policy and should be arrested when failing to heed an armed force. PERIOD.

[saadasim]

@AlyBlack Israel had no problem running a UN arms embargo on apartheid South Africa. In fact Israel was racist South Africa's most important ally selling them whatever military/torutre equipment that they wanted.

[AlyBlack]

@saadasim

The UN is not a government. South Africa (who was wrong about apartheid) was the legtimate gov't at that time, it was up to them who landed on their shores. Any other OLD news you want me to disprove?

As we all know, this blockade is in place because of HAMAS's positions. And you haters are just stirring the pot because you are racist.

[irishxxkelt]

@AlyBlack ........The Mufti told Hitler about the Jews under the Moors of Spain had to wear yellow clothing, hence yellow stars of David. Thanks to Israeli know-how we have instant messaging and so much more technology.

[lisareik]

Saada,

Have you seen the video?

These "humanitarian" were hardly unarmed.

And yes, it happens that the boats were sponsored by the Moslem Brotherhood and a Turksih terror group committed to Israel's destruction.

so I would say yes, it ws certainly in self defense.

Stop buying into the propaganda machine.

[almargo2]

@saadasim you forgot to mention that the siege is against the illegal Hamas government in Gaza, which is not recognized by the international community. You also neglected to mention that the illegal Hamas government took power in Gaza after brutalizing its political opponents in Fatah, not to mention endorses violence against Israeli civilians. If your neighbors were trying to kill you, you might want to keep them out too.

[OnenameOneway]

It sickens me how the media are so anti Israeli when it is so obvious that this flotilla was intended to cause a conflict. I long for the truth to come out, but that won't happen until Christ returns, then we will see that this land of Israel was promised to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I look forward to when the Son of David will sit on His thrown and rule for a thousand years. The apple of God's eye, well He will cause the nations to tremble for their treatment of His people.

[darsal123]

Turkey is an irresponsable country who massacred the armenians and now they want to massacred the israelis!

[calkunin]

@JusticeVSpropaganda right on!