THE STANDARD Porn Star Ron Jeremy Debate #2

[nandmemory]

RON JEREMY is showing us how not be like him.

[nandmemory]

RON JEREMY is showing us how not be like him.

[SuperCatdick]

the hedgehog is in trouble

[mattpetersen04]

Have you noticed that they all just talk over ron when he's right time after time and has some logic behind his words but then craig talks he's uninterrupted and makes no sense.. "We went to the porn show to get people to stop watching porn" That seems like a great place to get people to stop watching porn.

[Dylandts]

@mattpetersen04 he said hes doing it just to get it out there. Makes sense. Im not real religious or anything but Jesus did hang out with the sinners. He brought the message to them in a friendly way. Kinda what hes trying to do

[watermelonygoodness]

Lol at everyone saying he bullshitted his way through the question. He clearly said it wouldn't be his first choice for his daughter because of the double standard that exists. That's a perfectly legitimate answer. Many parents want their children to have better and more fulfilling careers than they did. Does that mean those parents think their careers are morally wrong? Or that their careers lead to addiction? Come on.

[PMRizzle66]

lol ron says "is that a true story?"

[punishmentya]

Ron Jeremy is a Despicable Shit if he want his Daughter in Dirty Pornography

[legalbeagle26]

Ron couldn't answer the question straight! "DO YOU WANT YOUR DAUGHTER DOING PORN" He lost the debate there!

[watermelonygoodness]

@legalbeagle26 How did he lose the debate right there? What does his personal preference for careers for his daughter have to do with his arguments? He said that there is a double standard for women in porn and for that reason it wouldn't be his first choice for her. He made this point (which, again, has no bearing on the actual debate being had) clearly and just because you and the host didn't understand it, doesn't mean he lost the debate.

[xaxie1]

This is strange, everyone in the last video seemed to be on Rons side, and now everyone seems to be on Craigs side lol

[punishmentya]

RON JEREMY IS A SO DESPICABLE THING !

HE IS A SHIT !

[Mcgareydude]

Well You dont masturbate while watching a baseball game lol!!! @_@

[DesertedBaby]

i love how impartial the adjudicator is

[LouisHeath5318]

omg shes hot- yet

YouTube's not good 4 nude

videos- go see Rudey tube , brilliant videos

[galbro48026]

this is the thing i cant stand about religion why do we have to avoid sex in order to serve a god? referring to the pastor saying stay away from porn for 7 days. it surprising that this pastor is not telling how many marriages are not working out there, how many divorces etc. But thats OK ill just take the advice from the bible ill just find someone to get married and god will supernaturally flick his wand and bless us and we will live happily ever after.

[ZakBrownrigg123]

Your not avoiding sex to serve God. The idea is that sex is meant to be partaken by two people who love each other and are giving all of themselves to each other. It is an act of love; the ultimate intimacy between two people.

Its not meant to be a tool used for instant gratification. It becomes little more than masterbating when promiscuity becomes extreme. Ultimately, Christianity tells us to do things how they are meant to be done. In this case, have sex inside of marriage because that

[ZakBrownrigg123]

is where it is at its most complete form.

[phantom1539]

@galbro48026 But porn is a strong factor in many marriages that fail. When men get addicted or build selfish expectations which a wife can't meet.

[galbro48026]

@phantom1539 many marriage fail because they dont get along that the point here for example: you dont blame guns for all the murders out there, we dont get rid of guns just because. that man is watching porn because he not attracted to his wife because they are not getting along, they are probably arguing fighting all the time some couple like watching porn together for example maybe the wife might want to read the song of solomon and get aroused and get time with here husband

[galbro48026]

@phantom1539 the reality of religion is that it enables people to have answers in which they want to have in their life. they want be able to control the world,and when it come to sex ppl want to control that too and the realization comes along that maybe people are missing out in life just because of the restrictions they put in themselves, porn is what you make of it. sometime its giving or taking but no matter what happens all long as it all mutual and no one getting hurt.

[chadpopstar]

My previous comments DISAPPEARED!!!!  CENSORSHIP!

[FriedMattato]

"christians love to take things out of context"

Understatement of the century.

[jwcgrant]

While that is a true statement, it's not fair to label all christians because of some. That's like assuming all men are gay, because you know one gay guy.

[ExtremeBogom]

"christians love to take things out of context".

Yes they do.

[thickhead11]

I think the reality of the whole thing came through when they asked Ron if you would let his daughter go into porn...

there is nothing good about porn it exploits and objectifies people. It makes us view beautiful  people that are created in the image of God and causes us to view them as if they are objects.

We "all people" were created for something bigger (greater) than this

[TheLiberalChristian]

Ron talked about how Jenna Jamenson has millions of dollars now..but she went through hell to make that. You should just see what she herself has said about how bad the porn industry really is.

Ron fails to acknowledge the girls who are there for 2 weeks, make no money, are sexually abused and then thrown out in the streets. Porn is nothing but an industry of evil lies.

[thickhead11]

Ron fails to acknowledge a lot:

he neglects to mention the negative affects on society as well.

industry defenders often say, Pornography is just a fantasy. This implies there are no real-world effects of the material; One cannot look at an explicit photographic photo and think wow, There is a human being, she has rights, she has freedom, she has dignity, she is someone. One cannot. That is what pornography does to society's view women."

[thickhead11]

Pornography is about men controlling women. Pornography increases rather than decrease feelings of control particularly emphasizing the control of women by men. Unfortunately, the effects of pornography extend far beyond the rhetoric that the church uses, there is little attention placed on the people performing in the pornography. There is very little focus on the oppressive systems that pornography perpetuates. Pornography is not merely an individual problem, it is a social justice issue

[chadpopstar]

I think that's a lot of bull. Porn is not about 'men controlling women.' What about gay porn? Are they controlling the other gay men? People CHOOSE to go into the porn business, maybe they want to be controlled? Most porn stars are not rich, they do it to make money, yes...but they could easily make money other ways! They obviously want to do porn.

[thickhead11]

The argument that pornography is a matter of free choice is simplistic. Genuine free choice requires not only the absence of external coercion, but also the ability to evaluate critically and choose from a range of significant and worthwhile options. A free choice is rare; every choice made is under some mix of real world constraints and responsibilities.

[thickhead11]

For example, A battered wife chooses to give in to her husbands threats and stay in her present, often dangerous, situation, but her choice is often based upon his threats. In more cases than not, childhood sexual assault and economic hardships are two factors that many women involved in porn have in common. Famous porn stars that were sexually abused as children include Jenna Jameson, Carol Smith and Traci Lords. someone "wanting to be controlled" (in your words) seems psychological unwell

[thickhead11]

not free choice. As far as gay porn my comment was meant to be critical specifically towards straight porn, and the way that it dehumanize and objectifies women. how it reduces them to nothing more than a series of holes and not human beings, but i suppose the same dehumanization, control and exploitation could be done with gay porn as well.

[beautifulfierceTV]

@thickhead11 Absolutely! There is actually an essay about this very thing in Big Porn Inc. eds.Melinda Tankard Reist and Abigail Bray. You should check it out! :)

[ZakBrownrigg123]

In many develloping countries people CHOOSE to work in factories for very little money, no employee rights, and very unsafe working conditions. Simply because you choose to do something doesnt make it right.

The solution is to fix society so that people don't have to work in these kinds of slave labour factories. He applies the same logic to porn.

Convincing argument?

[sanchopanza123]

do ugly girls make money in porn?

[sgreen4]

Ron Jeremy seemed to lie. He should have just told the truth. No father wants his daughter to go into porn. Duh

[Maltrevenius]

Thanks for the blanket statement.

[Kthonix]

I wouldn't want my kids to be janitors or christians, I guess that means they're all evil or something.

[sgreen4]

just because you don't want your kid to be something doesn't make it evil. I wouldn't want my kid to be a janitor. I'd rather my kid be a janitor than a porn star. Would you want your daughter to be a porn star and get her ass rammed by hundred of guys?

[Kthonix]

Exactly. Just because I wouldn't want my daughter to be a porn star (or other type of labourer) doesn't mean that porn work is evil. If she wanted to be a porn star, that'd be her business. I would rather her be a multimillionaire like Jenna than some janitor or priest.

[juxari]

@sgreen4 I wouldn't mind.

[juxari]

@sgreen4 I wouldn't mind.

[TomDavid88]

@sgreen4 Well, it depends- better than being homeless or a drug addict...

[RyanTheIncredulous]

@sgreen4 No, he didn't lie. He made it pretty clear that he wouldn't like for his daughter to become a porn actor. However, like most reasonable parents, he understands that what your children do once they mature is up to them.

[ColdVolano22]

@sgreen4 Yeah, he kind of bullshitted his way through that question. He knows he'd try to forbid it and probably not be successful, so he's probably end up having to accept it.

[watermelonygoodness]

@sgreen4 That's not true there are porn stars whose parents manage them.

[Psywearebabylon]

@sgreen4

Nah I agree with Ron, if they were legal and wanted to, fucking go for it. Least you'd know shes fucking someone whos been tested and (mainly) wearing a rubber, no unexpected Aids results now with all the rules and regulations in place.

[GoreMasterFlash]

@sgreen4 A real father should be proud of his daughter whatever she does as long as she is happy. A bad parent forces careers on their children and treats them as little robots

[HX711]

@GoreMasterFlash

So you would be happy if your daughter that you took care of and loved for your entire life if she became a drug addict? For her, taking drugs would make her happy.

[GoreMasterFlash]

@HX711 Taking drugs isnt a career. When i said "whatever she does" i meant careers

[Righton2000]

@sgreen4 Yeeeeeeah, but with this kind of debate, Ron always has the short end of the stick (no pun intended) and more to lose.

[beautifulfierceTV]

@sgreen4 Well, if he does there is something incredibly disturbing about it!

[keenly1]

fuck craig

[hawke123]

Quite the flamer, aren't you?

[pivester]

Why would you say that? That is the problem with our country we allow people to promote murder, sex, and drugs but someone doing something pretty cool we hatin on them. Check your angle homie.

[Kthonix]

Jesus said you deserve to burn forever if you don't believe in him. That's worse than promoting sex, and you're fucked if you believe different.

[pivester]

Nah bro, I'm not f__ked if i believe different. I am happy. Very happy that I have control and that I have my wife's respect and love back. And most importantly that I have my relationship with Jesus back. Look man, you have your views on Christians but I have views on all man kind. Everyone has a great responsibility to stand for what is right even if it is what we enjoy. Bro, porn is off the chain, but it is wrong. If its not, then tell that to the women who have lost their husbands to this.

[Kthonix]

John 3:16-18, if it were true, would be infinitely worse than living in North Korea, you realise? In North Korea, at least you can die to escape the suffering involved.

Porn is not evil, certainly less evil than sports like boxing or hunting. Those women have lost their husbands to neuroses they have perpetuated with with puritanical, asinine values and judgements, not through any "thought crime" the porn produces in and of itself. Porn addiction is a product of underlying psych problems.