Winter Soldier-pt.2- 3/5

[strangefacekid]

Think about all the assholes who come back singing that Hero song. These men are heroes for standing up gainst a false ideolegy & a fascist system. It's disgusting to hear of the seruptitious ways that cowards will find to get thier "Kill Shot" more over the way that young M/W are being turned into murderers and then let go with very little help. The world has fallen into an unfathomable shit pond people. Be good to all you meet. Peace X

[WarmongerWW3]

6:13 -  I would do a party there

[WarmongerWW3]

It's a war, people die and they deserve it. Now get over it.

[coolchiller5]

@WarmongerWW3 You probably said the same thing during the Holocaust you sick fuck.

[WarmongerWW3]

@coolchiller5 Oh, another hippie.

[AR15DAN]

America=the new Nazis.

[HmmNoMoreNames]

you ppl amaze the shit out of me, open your eyes!! watch the news for 1 fucking day, 1 day is all thats needed, and you'll see the stuff that goes on nowdays, you cant sit back in the safety of America and be critics about the shit that goes on over there, because youve never served in the military you obviously think your an expert, dont comment on shit thats way out of your league especially if you have no fucking idea! its a war on terrorism not against the countries themselves.

[drewren1231]

this is ridiculous, put yurself in perspective, you are at a marine baracade, everybody knows to stop there, you see a car speeding toward your post, do you..

1. shoot to kill

2. lay down to die

rules of engagement, there are none in iraq on the iraqi side, if somebody says this they are liars, they employ torture and to not obey rules.

also, these people are whining about being able to shoot people in enemy uniforms.

i would rather see one iraqi civilian dead that a squad of us troops

[Joefreiheit]

drewren you have to understand the US troops are the invaders in Iraq. When they give orders to Iraqis the Iraqis cant understand English. Iraq never attack the US on 9/11 and neither did AlQaeda. Countless Iraqi civillians have died and been injured and over 2 million people displaced. Why the hell would Iraqis welcome the troops with open arms? The only way to support the troops is to bring them home immediately, they don't belong there. The government uses the troops as expendable pawns.

[drewren1231]

@Joefreiheit I agree Iraq is a useless war that should have never happened. We should leave asap, but while we are there the troops need to protect themselves. Overuse of BS rules of engagement has already cost enough lives i.e. not being able to shoot at the enemy because they are shooting out of a mosque.

[jtofgc]

@drewren1231 That's because you're a fascist.

[drewren1231]

@jtofgc No that's because I'm a pragmatic. Learn the term fascist before you use it retard. If you would like political theory to be applied this statement reflects utilitarianism... something that does not work with fascism. I hate ignorant people. Dont bother to reply... It is better to shut one's mouth than to open it and confirm yourself as a fool.

[jtofgc]

@drewren1231 I don't see how utilitarianism is applied in your statement about valuing soldiers over civilians. Bentham and Mill, the first formulators of utilitarian thinking, defined utilitarianism in terms of a "felicific calculus," or an rational method of determining which course of action is likely to produce the greatest positive feeling and least negative feeling among the human population regarded as a whole.

[drewren1231]

@jtofgc Well, good job, you can use Wikipedia, but your math is still sub-par. One death produces a better utilitarian outcome than a death of a whole squad of men. You must understand the application and historical use of both theories before you try to argue them against somebody that does. Thanks for confirming yourself as a fool. :)

[jtofgc]

@drewren1231 All I see in your assertion that American lives are worth more is violent nationalism and a failure to internalize the humanity of people who do not look and speak like you. Fascist.

[drewren1231]

@jtofgc No it is me as an American placing the value of my fellow Americans over that of the enemy. I understand the humanity well, but it must be practically applied in a war zone. You still fail to understand fascism.

[stross17]

they gotta shot at the cars for safety.. we are fighting car bombs

[speakman7]

This is good stuff. This war is not honorable. We are shooting up guys in sandals and flip flops.

[Dachamp1227]

I saw this and Im still joining the Marine Corp. Guys its a war....Its not a walk in the park! Its grisly and horrible, thats the way it is, the way its always been and always gonna be!

[MIDNIGHT1DEMO]

No! This is not a war. This is the worlds one & only super power kickin the shit outta of another country that can't even begin to defend itself. You dont wanna get IEDed. Any man that wants to go to war obviously knows nothing about war. Try the Air Force if you must join.

[Dachamp1227]

I dont want to go to war, I wanna serve my country! You all can say what you want, call me crazy, but my entire familys been in the military! Nothing is more honorable than answering your countrys call.

[rgz1985]

I've been in the air force for 4 years

[HmmNoMoreNames]

Begin to defend itself, we arent fighting the country itself, its "War on Terror" you kno wtf that means?! you have no enemy, its all a fucking game, and with the Convention, your enemy could walk up, fire, run around back, throw his gun down and walk out the other side with his hands up and you cant do shit, with our stupid BS "rules of war" were just killing our troops.. pull back all the rules, send in a Marine Corps Fast Team, and all this would be fucking over..

[borat4thawin]

what are you fighting for? its not that people dont want to defend there countries, its that there not really defending anything just helping big wigs continue to make money and do evil.

[Gold0ilDrugs]

Save these videos to favorites and send them to friends and anyone who supports the the war and those who want to join the military. We have to wake up the uninformed. I served in the Army between wars and I am thankful I wasn't sent or I would probably have regret today for invading a nation that did us no wrong.

[aaqilian]

well its good to see a lesson learned, but how do we stop this american militarization indoctrination? from kindergarten on were taught to love our country and love the troops no matter what. this is the result of that. I hope these guys, now much wiser, go to the schools in america and let the children know their stories. Hopefully we can quell some of this hatred before it starts.

[whalefish83]

I wonder how many civilians they killed amongst them

[Braveturkey]

Corporal. Thank-you for your honesty and candor. Have you thought of a career in politics?

[rgz1985]

You talk like a fag

[kparsay]

I hope that those poor Iraqi people could see how you guys really felt and how the government forced you guys to do these kinda things,I wish they could see that you guys have heart and have regrets on what happend there!