Wesley Clark "swiftboats" John Mccain (1 of 2)

[steveo2504]

FUCK YOU Clark you sucked obamas dick for too long!!! You fucking piss boy cunt.

signed retired US Army

[apotcake13]

Gen. Wesley Clark for President 2012!!!!! Obama could be his vice pres

[ampegged]

*Respect*

[CELIBERICO]

Your comments are "Reductio Ad Absurdum" and "Ad Hominem" combined, you do not attack the person and then you infer "reduced to absurdity in your argument. The facts and evidence are clear. One was a prisoner of war and the other was not.... and for more than 5 years. Clark does not build himself up at all in these "ad hominem" attacks which are fallacy in argumentation. McCain did well in serving his country. Go McCain !!

[CELIBERICO]

and to sum it up, was Clark a Prisoner of War ? ??? !!!

Yes or No ? No, he was never been a prisoner of war. Its simple ,anyone can talk and talk talk, but until that person actually lives the life of a prisoner of war, then I believe he'd do an about face and keep his mouth shut and keep silent, this man has no business talking a bunch of bs to get kudos with others. You do not attack a man who has been through hell and back, how sickening. I don't see Clark running for anything

[daddymak9]

And to sum it up, was Clark a fuck up who crashed five planes BEFORE being shot down? Yes or No? Was Clark shot down by enemy combatants while on an unauthorized combat mission? Fuck McCain. He's no more of a hero than anyone else who served. Anyone else who was not the son and grandson of well respected Naval admirals would have been relieved of duty after crashing five planes, not allowed into the Naval Academy to graduate fifth from the bottom.

[dunskie]

You wanna see John McCain being "Swiftboated"?

Only problem is,

THIS IS TRUE

watch?v=NnlQpKdNjWU

Take a gander.

[Kuumbaman]

Yes, Mr. Clark is right on.

[ap03at]

Clark is making sense. MCcain is claiming to have a leadership edge in a potential security crisis, when he has zero experience in that field. Obama has not made such a claim.

Being a POW does not all of a sudden make you a military genius. Otherwise there would be many military genius's out there.

[bengtmartin]

Everyone talks about McCain being a pow and how we´re obligated to admire him for that. However, no one ever mentions the other part of this story McCain got shot down during his 22nd bombing mission over N Vietnam. Was that an honorable thing to do? Was it admirable to bomb villages and, most likely, kill a large number of civilians? These questions are never asked or even mentioned in American media because of hardcore indoctrination and that´s a bad sign for any democracy.

[LiquidFireNorway]

I am a hardcore obama fan, but the thing about war is that you as a soldier are supposed to do what you are asked to do. McCain was just doing his job, and as most protesters against the war (as of now as well): they protested against the war, and not the soldiers.

I would be nontheless too idiotic if mccain had to do some hippy-shit during important times.

[CalifSunshine2008]

Obama is a pussy! Amazing you guys are still fans. He tell Turkey we are no longer a Christian nation..he tells other reporters we are the largest Muslim nation. He bows low to the Saudi King..and pays him first respect on his trip to the MiddleEast..WHY?? Who do you think funded your vote!

[CalifSunshine2008]

Yes, the military doing their job is honorable. What is a dishonor is the lack of respect you have for the men sworn to protect you!

[TimmyHaag]

@CalifSunshine2008

Hey genius, having or lacking respect for service members doesn't matter. What is a real dishonor is all the chicken hawks lining up and waving their flags behind the 1% of the population they deem should always be at war without going for themselves.

I'm an Iraq Vet and I'm a big fan of our President so your pussy mouth can suck my "war hero" dick.

[redrebel69]

being a pow is not a virtue or its an important factor. on the other hand if the candidate lies or exaggerates his roles I think i looks bad.

[fernandojoaolobo]

whats with the 2 stupid people doing the interview, they defend McCain and I ask why? who care if he was a POW? he should have been kept there forever..

[s10129107]

wesley clark is an EXPERT 4 star general. the man knows what he's talking about and NEVER uses his experiences as POLITICAL LEVERAGE.

[Donkat9]

Wes Clark is absolutely right. As an aside, Mc has done nothing but stand in the way of veteran issues. He has opposed the families of POWs. He opposed the GI bill then tried to take credit for it. As usual, all the MC people can do is attack - notice they never argue based on issues - how can they, Mc constantly flip flops in issues. Against Bush tax cuts, for Bush tax cuts. For Gay marriage, against Gay marriage (this flip flop happened in 11 minutes). Alzheimers?

[CELIBERICO]

What a scum bag.....a slime wad.

No respect for anything.

Sad.

[randomusernamemygod]

Just a list of all the decorations this so called "scum bag" has. Combat Infantryman Badge Parachutist Badge Defense Distinguished Service Medal: 5 Army Distinguished Service Medal: 2 Silver Star Legion of Merit: 4 Bronze Star: 2 Purple Heart French Ordre national du Mérite German Merit Cross of the Federal Republic (Order of Merit) Presidential Medal of Freedom. This man "Clark" was also shot 4 times in vietnam and dispite the wounds lead his men in a counter attack.

[khargushoghli]

I don't get it. Where is the "Swiftboating"? Swiftboating means to lie about someone's military record. Clark did no such thing. This is Clark's criticism of McSame's politics.

Really, you Republicans have such a glass jaw...

[khargushoghli]

The UN should be thrown out of the G8?

[rootbeer4969]

All you Oblather morons need to kill yourselves before you find out how badly he is going to fuck you. The SOB wants to tax your house, you retirement plans and anything else you have. He's an empty-suit dumbfuck and so is anyone who believes in is meaningless, hollow, platitudinous rhetoric. How does 143 days in the Senate qualify him for anything more than shining shoes at O'Hare Airport? Anyone who follows him is a blind idiot being lead to the slaughter. You stupid cocksuckers just wait...

[DANMIGUEL123]

Who is Wes Clark again? Will he be at the convention as a speaker or just as listener.

[vincecharus]

Of course McCain knows absolutely everything. He's been locked up in Hanoi Hilton for 5 1/2 years, right?

Wes Clark, the real expert here, cannot be more correct.

[rootbeer4969]

Ashley Wilkes is a dumbfuck asshole. And so is anyone who listens to him...

[heatsketch]

russia should be thrown out of G8, along with the UN

[heatsketch]

Clark is the one who completely bungled the U.S operation in Kosovo in the 90's. That man is an idiot blinded by ideology, and anyone who disagreed with him at the time of Kosovo was fired

[NoGuff]

Clark is such a tool. He's a minion of the Clintons.

[DEVGRU1Red]

McCain, deserves respect & honor for serving our country in time of war. However; that experience does not make one more capable than ANYONE else, in making presidential decisions. Gen. Clark has pulled back the curtain, all is not what it appears. Being in command of a NON wartime flight squadron & POW are NOT automatics that such a person is a political leader. McCain is a DISABLED VETERAN. The suffering he endured as a POW has resulted in his having; PTSD, depression, etc. I too am a 100%'er.

[ColonelPablo]

Wesley Clark is a great American soldier, who outranks Sen. McCain FYI, and he has said nothing about McCain's war record. The reason everyone on the right attacked a decorated soldier (Gen. Clark)is that he uttered the one inconvenient truth that the McCain campaign doesn't want anyone to think about. That McCain's POW experience, as horrible and irrefutable as it was, does not automatically mean he would have or suddenly develop the requisite judgement and statesmanship skill to be President.

[leftysergeant]

McCain barely made it through the Naval Academy. Probably wouldn't have done that were his daddy not an admiral. Affirmative action for yuppie larvae. He drove airplanes. He wasn't a strategist, he didn't have responsibility for the lives of others. Clark was more a man at 30 than the geezer ever will be.

Obama, by contrast, got where he is because he is bright. Hear Obama talk to colleagues, you are listening to the brightest man in the room. McCain, close to the dumbest. Look it up.

[enabuus]

Everybody can talk but this guy is telling nothing but the truth.

[THUD086]

WTF? After conversing with you all this time, the summit of your intellectual deficiency comes down to BDS. Is this the best you can come up with? Not exactly a mental heavyweight, are you?

You had me fooled there for a while. I wasn't sure if you were a real person, or some chimpanzee, trained to use a keyboard. But now I know. You're the chimpanzee. Must be. Have to be the chimp. No human adult can be as intellectually bankrupt as you are. Oh, and your name calling is so, so, Clintonesque.

[Pseudologic]

Getting shot down doesn't make you a hero. The guy who shot you down is a hero to his country, but not you.

[THUD086]

When a person goes to war, be he/she a pilot, a sailor, soldier, or Marine, they put themselves in a position of getting killed, or captured. McCain wound up on the wrong end of an SA-2. That doesn't make him any less of a hero. Do you have the stamina to do what he did? It takes a certain level of courage to join the armed forces and put yourself in "harm's way". Somehow, I get the impression you don't have that.

[Pseudologic]

In order for your comments to be logical you should stop assuming that you know what McCain thought and you should stop assuming that you know me. Let me repeat for the slow people: being shot down doesn't make you eligible for the office. It just makes you better at getting shot down.

[THUD086]

Let me elaborate for people that have reading comprehension problems: I never, ever said that getting shot down qualifys anyone for POTUS. I never, ever said I knew what McCain thought. Nor do I ever care to know you. But when you compare McCain to Hitler, you open the door for criticism about your remarks. Now, other than the fact that Hitler and McCain both served in their countries armed forces, maybe you can explain what they have in common. For the "slow people", you know.

[Pseudologic]

Both McCain and Hitler were heroic during wars and both wanted supreme authority. That is all I said. I'm surprised to have to repeat that to someone who claims launguage skills supremacy on the Internet. Come off your high horse, nerd. Fat stupid republicans should be prohibited from being on top of any horses real or metaphorical.

[THUD086]

Hitler became a dictator. McCain is trying to become POTUS, like many decorated military men before him. You were the one that said, and I quote "want a Hitler in office, vote McCain". Can you name one POTUS that became a dictator? Of course not, you just talk out of your ass. Oooh, so were into name calling. Good, I like it rough. Listen, you monkey raping, shit swallower, our president does not obtain supreme power. Not very well versed in how our government works, I see.

[Pseudologic]

Don't call your mom a monkey son. I don't have to go very far back to name a dictator in the oval office, the last one will be on his way out in November. And McCain with his support of torture is no better. Maybe instead of banging your cousin and reading bible in your mobile home you can read some history of how dictators start.

[THUD086]

Clark is a Clinton ass kisser, who endorsed Hillary last year, but now that she's out of contention, he switches allegiance in the hope of a shot at VP, or a cabinet position. Wesley "Judas" Clark has the morals of an alley cat. I wouldn't give him the sweat off of my ass if he was dying of thirst.

[Pseudologic]

Hitler had an impeccable WW1 record as a soldier. You could say he was a German hero. Look how he worked out. McCain is like Hitler in that they both had distinguished themselves in the wars. Want a hitler in officer? Vote McCain.

[mark99501]

mccain is a coward,and flip flopper.

[hottpoker]

wesley clark is right. just because maccain got shot down does not mean we owe him the presidency. What about the ones who didn't get shot down, are they heros?. I think so, even more so. maccain is an hypocryte. when bush attacked obama from the israeli parliament john maccain did not distance from the comments, all the opposite he ganged up even more in support of this litany of invective from bush. GIVE THEM HELL WESS!!!

[ApplyUrBrain]

As your notes say, Clark didn't "swiftboat" anyone, just made some reasonable observations based on truth. Thus I regret the title of this video, even though "swiftboats" is in quotes. Let's be overly clear that Clark has never done anything low like Republican swiftboating.

[bryannforClark]

Get a fucking clue if he was supposed to be relieved like you try to assert without facts but rather rely on the unfortunate comments by Gen.Shelton then I feel that you are not interested on the truth but rather slander.

[bryannforClark]

Gen.Wes Clark did not enter the Army to be the most popular nor to be the most loved Army General. He entered the Armed forces starting at West Point to serve our country and serve it with HONOR, COURAGE, INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER.

By the way spare me the ethics shit. If you look back(objectively, put your military hat) Gen.Clark was praised by both then SECDEF Cohen and then Chairman Hugh Shelton for his actions and leadership he showed and exhibited during OPERATION ALLIED FORCE.

[brezz2285]

"If you look back(objectively, put your military hat) Gen.Clark was praised by both then SECDEF Cohen and then Chairman Hugh Shelton for his actions and leadership he showed and exhibited during OPERATION ALLIED FORCE. "

Clark got the typical praise verbage, then he was relieved of command. Shelton himself said it was over matters of ethics. Look objectively at THAT FACT.

[bryannforClark]

Look I am not the only one that have served with Clark who found him very very very damn good General with keen insight, has the fine appreciation for his strategic mind. As for him not being recognized as a Warrior, I could just laugh with this charge, and the fave Gen.Petraeus is? talk about Irony here, the man did not see combat until his deployment to Iraq and that when he was already a Maj.Gen.

[brezz2285]

Clark saw 30 days of combat in Vietnam before he was wounded and shipped stateside.

Petraeus has a reputation as a dirty boots leader, something Wes never had. You're an idiot to suggest otherwise.

[bryannforClark]

Really the same, Since or where in this video did Clark demean McCain's record? Slandered his Character or integrity?

Compared to swift boats they labeled Kerry as unfit to lead, a fake, a guy who lied for his medals. Need I go on?

Open your eyes dude and don't be a fucking ostrich.

[yaat22055]

excuse me, but my definition for a war hero is someone who made some achievments in a war and that such achievements to some extent helped us to win the war, so we call him a Hero, an extra ordinary capable soldier who's WILLINGLY sacrificed....but when we talk about a pilot who flied 1000s feets high and got shot and so captured and so addmitted stuff under preussure and broke down and cried and wished death, this is someone who broke under pressure

[deanrdd]

You forgot the General Clark also left Viet Nam left on a stretcher with four bullets in his body. I guess he should be president.

[rcpmac]

Wes Clark is a retired General of the United States Army. Clark was valedictorian of his class at West Point, was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford where he obtained a degree in PPE (Philosophy, Politics & Economics), and later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master's degree in military science.

[rcpmac]

He spent 34 years in the Army and the Department of Defense, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.

[rcpmac]

. He spent 34 years in the Army and the Department of Defense, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.

[rcpmac]

Everyone has been lambasting General Wesley Clark today over his comments about John McCain, including Barack Obama who rejected his comments. But has anyone watched the comments? Not only does General Clark not disparage John McCain's war record, he calls him his "hero" for how courageous he was in his service.

[rcpmac]

The only point General Clark is making is that this does not translate to having experience in executive responsibility. That point is not only uncontroversial, it is indisputable. Is everyone who got shot out of a plane or spent time in a POW camp qualified to be President of the United States? Of course, not.

[rcpmac]

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Does that experience and how he handled it speak to John McCain's courage? Absolutely. His service to the country? No doubt. But does it speak to whether he has the national security or foreign policy experience necessary to be president? Absolutely not.

[brezz2285]

Clark was an extremely "political" (as in office politics) officer on active duty. He gained little, if any, respect from his peers or subordinates. His career ended with him being relieved of command and passed over for advancement after that. He could have served as the prototype for Courtney Massengale.

[rcpmac]

Old tactic, smear the messenger rather than addressing the message. The right is either disingenuous in this argument or just plain stupid. Clark stated flying in a jet, being shot down and imprisoned does not qualify a person to be commander in chief. How does this denigrate the war hero? How is this inaccurate? How does this relate to the swift boating lies?

I would like to hear from some McCain supporters on this. When there is no reasonable argument, the right smears the person instead.

[brezz2285]

"Smear" nothing, it's the truth. Wes was known as a perfumed prince who was book smart and adept at office politics. He was relieved of command and the reason, said his superiors was "matters of ethics".

[bryannforClark]

brezz, you said you served with Gen.Clark? where at the JCS staff? and you have to be a bit more substantive with you're charge on Clark.

YOU read like you are just copying and pasting your info from google articles taken both from the left fringe and the right wing writers.

[brezz2285]

I said I served under Clark, and I did. I know Clark's classmates, I know many others who worked under him. He WAS Courtney Massengail. He WAS fired, the issue WAS ethics and whether you can recognize those facts is YOUR problem, not mine.

Now, how you, a Canadian who was 18 when Clark retired can know anything at all about Clark beyond what has been fed to you via Clark's self-serving book is a mystery.

[brezz2285]

There's a reason why Clark was universally reviled by his peers and subordinates in uniform and relieved by his superiors, and he just showed it.

[bryannforClark]

Dude stop the slandering, what is your proof of this shit? Nothing but taken from the vaunted MSM who grovel at the feet Of St.Mccain. Gen.Clark was one of the most rising officer in the U.S. Army, he was a water walker and his career was so gilded because the man is fucking brilliant.

Look he was so unpopular that he was awarded his 1st star when he was only 41 his 2nd star 43, and both of these elevation to flag status was before Clinton.

Boy he was unpopular alrigth. NOT.

[brezz2285]

Clearly you don't grasp how someone can be unpopular with his peers and subordinates because of his office politic nature and STILL profit from it by making his superiors happy. He had a reputation as being book smart, a brown nose and a perfumed prince. He was NOT was his peers and subordinates would have respected, a dirty-boots officer.

I served with Wes, clearly you didn't, and I recall how his career ended, being relieved of command over was his superiors called "matters of ethics".

[bryannforClark]

brezz2285 I don't know you and you don't know me let's end it there. What I have mentioned before and I will mention again is that the idea that Gen.Clark is so unpopular is so fucking stupid based not on facts but rather on some anecdotal evidence coming from wounded and jealous officers Gen.Clark served with over, or under.

[donnyjayw]

Why did clinton fire him over bosnia?

[JasonJabber]

Clark is the lowest of the low. I wonder what job Obama has promised him?

[rcpmac]

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[DarcPrynce]

Don't you just love how the leftist media keeps referring to Clark's totally indefensible statements concerning McCain's military service as a "swiftboat" attack? Apparently neo-communists can't distinguish between people who seek to diminish the actions of true war heroes, and those who simply tell the evidence-supported truth about the treasonous behavior of a despicable fraud like John F-ing Kerry.

[rw5791]

kerry was a punk.The swift boat vets should get medals for exposing his lies.

[grazon]

The swift boat fags should be shot for lying about his service.

In case Limbaugh didn't tell you and the rest of his donky blowing fans the Navy checked into Kerry's service and found he was in the right and the swift boat fuckers were lying.

[dogstar7]

Misleading Title

Gen. Clark isn't "swiftboating" anyone. He isn't saying anything false about John McCain. He isn't misrepresenting McCain's war record. This isn't "swiftboating" at all!

The "Swift Vets and POWs for Truth" were liers and propagandists. Gen. Wesley Clark is a TRUE American her...and 100% the Military Leader than McCain (denied flag rank, twice) will ever be.