Well, what a tesla turbine "could" do and what the one's I've seen "actually" do are two very different things. As for HP produced per pound turbine weight, I don't think that's really a very good way to think of it. What's important is HP produced on turbine shaft, per HP delivered to the turbine in steam. On that count, every Tesla turbine I've evaluated (not many, but seems to be the case generally) have ~5 percent or less conversion efficiency. Really bad. I hope to do better,
If i am not mistaken, a Tesla turbine can at best achieve 1 HP per pound of actual engine weight...correct? The real power maker will come from the boiler...and the hungry appetite it has for wood and water. You will never get what you expect, only hope for and try to excel at your expectations. Very nice turbine !
Great stuff! I've been penciling out a similar setup for my off-grid place. This and your other vids are giving me more ideas, really appreciate it.
I don't see any reference to where or how you acquired your turbine, but it would be great to know more about it's design. If you built it from scratch, some links to your reference materials would be awesome!
I am making them. They aren't for sale yet, but will be once they are all dialed in and working with good long term reliability. So I think I'm perhaps the only one making high power turbines for personal use for home or small business scale requirements. You can contact me at ross *at* tessien *dot* com
@woodfirepower Hi. My name is Frank. I am from Latin America. I am interested in your project. I would like to set up a similar system in my home. Would you let me know how can I get a Steam turbine as shown in the video. My e-mail: fscodenis@hotmail.com
@contreeman They are being designed to handle from 2kW to 20kW sustained torque to an alternator for on site heat and power generation using wood chips or wood pellets as fuel, combined with heating using a hydronic radiant system for space heating and heat exchanger for hot water heating. I'm installing the first demo in my house and you can follow the home conversion videos if interested.
Things change, and its been a few years since my last patent filings..........around 100 of them filed to date on other technologies. Anyway, US law is already the same as international law, as far as international filings are concerned. First to file wins. But within the US, unless its changed in the past couple years, first to invent still wins....but only for US patents, within the US market. Anyway, it's best to be first to file regardless, and, file before selling or disclosing.
I have been reading about patent law and I believe they are planning or have already changed our laws to be more like international laws. Thus the first to patent office wins. I wish I still had that link.
I love your experiments. We can calculate very accurately the btus, wattage, joules, horse power etc contained in a cord of various types of wood. This is good stuff.
Actually, the US has patent law that favors inventors compared to other countries. The International norm is, first to file wins, as you mention. Within the US, you can file up to one year after introduction / first sale or offer for sale, of a product.......hence, I'm not offering for sale yet. But if you want Int'l patents too, then you have to file first, sell second. US is actually a bargain. The delay to issue doesn't matter. That said, most patents are worthless...just sell it.
Be aware the changes to the patent law now favor the first person to the patent office and not the person who makes the prototype. I have to admit I don't know how patents work. I would like too.
Anyway good luck with the tesla tech. I hope it works out because I hate paying every month for power.
If you get it working you should consider releasing it under creative commons and reserve the commercial license. This would save you the nightmare and blockade of the patent office. It would also let your invention spread like wildfire. If it works and people use it ask for a $50.00 contribution.
Just an idea. I think an open energy strategy would have a better chance of success in today's world. The oil barons don't like competition if you know what I mean.
Hi. Thanks for the thought. Getting patents is easy, and no blockade exists. What exists, is that most people don't understand the patent process. But once you do, getting virtually anything patented is easy to accomplish. That doesn't mean it's worth the effort............as most "inventions" will never sell. Most inventions are "stolen" by the inventor themselves. Being fearful, they won't let anyone know anything about it, and thus it withers and dies.
@woodfirepower I hope you succeed and then some. I see you put a lot of thought into the turbine but I hope you put as much if not more into the boiler itself.I see lots of videos about turbines and improved effeciency yet many are powered by rudimentary and ineffecient boilers that do little in the way of heat exhange.
Thanks. The boiler I built kicks out around 40kW running normally. So I do have plenty of power to drive it. This winter, I'm just running it to heat water to heat the house. But when I get back to running the turbine, that steam power flows through whatever turbine I hook up. So yes, I have quite a lot of boiler HP to drive the turbines.
The red tubes are just closing off holes in the housing that I'll install pressure and or temperature probes into. To just push some air through the turbine as a test of how well things fit, I didn't have a bunch of pipe plugs for 1/8", so installed the tubing fittings, then had the tubes run from one port to another so there is no exit to atmosphere. Eventually, they will be used to monitor the steam pressure and temperature around the interior of turbine during operation.
Well, what a tesla turbine "could" do and what the one's I've seen "actually" do are two very different things. As for HP produced per pound turbine weight, I don't think that's really a very good way to think of it. What's important is HP produced on turbine shaft, per HP delivered to the turbine in steam. On that count, every Tesla turbine I've evaluated (not many, but seems to be the case generally) have ~5 percent or less conversion efficiency. Really bad. I hope to do better,
rt
woodfirepower 1 week ago
If i am not mistaken, a Tesla turbine can at best achieve 1 HP per pound of actual engine weight...correct? The real power maker will come from the boiler...and the hungry appetite it has for wood and water. You will never get what you expect, only hope for and try to excel at your expectations. Very nice turbine !
sirtom68 2 months ago
Great stuff! I've been penciling out a similar setup for my off-grid place. This and your other vids are giving me more ideas, really appreciate it.
I don't see any reference to where or how you acquired your turbine, but it would be great to know more about it's design. If you built it from scratch, some links to your reference materials would be awesome!
kheston 2 months ago
I am making them. They aren't for sale yet, but will be once they are all dialed in and working with good long term reliability. So I think I'm perhaps the only one making high power turbines for personal use for home or small business scale requirements. You can contact me at ross *at* tessien *dot* com
woodfirepower 6 months ago
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@woodfirepower Hi. My name is Frank. I am from Latin America. I am interested in your project. I would like to set up a similar system in my home. Would you let me know how can I get a Steam turbine as shown in the video. My e-mail: fscodenis@hotmail.com
panoxyl777 4 months ago
I am looking all over the internet to get one of these. Where did you get yours? Can you post a link? Thank you
SumYoungHoe 6 months ago
900-1000 rpm is good how much substainable torq are getting? if you put a load on it will it continue to run?
contreeman 6 months ago
@contreeman They are being designed to handle from 2kW to 20kW sustained torque to an alternator for on site heat and power generation using wood chips or wood pellets as fuel, combined with heating using a hydronic radiant system for space heating and heat exchanger for hot water heating. I'm installing the first demo in my house and you can follow the home conversion videos if interested.
woodfirepower 6 months ago
Things change, and its been a few years since my last patent filings..........around 100 of them filed to date on other technologies. Anyway, US law is already the same as international law, as far as international filings are concerned. First to file wins. But within the US, unless its changed in the past couple years, first to invent still wins....but only for US patents, within the US market. Anyway, it's best to be first to file regardless, and, file before selling or disclosing.
woodfirepower 7 months ago
I have been reading about patent law and I believe they are planning or have already changed our laws to be more like international laws. Thus the first to patent office wins. I wish I still had that link.
DrReaper 7 months ago
I love your experiments. We can calculate very accurately the btus, wattage, joules, horse power etc contained in a cord of various types of wood. This is good stuff.
PrestoWind 7 months ago
Actually, the US has patent law that favors inventors compared to other countries. The International norm is, first to file wins, as you mention. Within the US, you can file up to one year after introduction / first sale or offer for sale, of a product.......hence, I'm not offering for sale yet. But if you want Int'l patents too, then you have to file first, sell second. US is actually a bargain. The delay to issue doesn't matter. That said, most patents are worthless...just sell it.
woodfirepower 7 months ago
Be aware the changes to the patent law now favor the first person to the patent office and not the person who makes the prototype. I have to admit I don't know how patents work. I would like too.
Anyway good luck with the tesla tech. I hope it works out because I hate paying every month for power.
DrReaper 7 months ago
If you get it working you should consider releasing it under creative commons and reserve the commercial license. This would save you the nightmare and blockade of the patent office. It would also let your invention spread like wildfire. If it works and people use it ask for a $50.00 contribution.
Just an idea. I think an open energy strategy would have a better chance of success in today's world. The oil barons don't like competition if you know what I mean.
DrReaper 7 months ago
@DrReaper
Hi. Thanks for the thought. Getting patents is easy, and no blockade exists. What exists, is that most people don't understand the patent process. But once you do, getting virtually anything patented is easy to accomplish. That doesn't mean it's worth the effort............as most "inventions" will never sell. Most inventions are "stolen" by the inventor themselves. Being fearful, they won't let anyone know anything about it, and thus it withers and dies.
woodfirepower 7 months ago
@woodfirepower I hope you succeed and then some. I see you put a lot of thought into the turbine but I hope you put as much if not more into the boiler itself.I see lots of videos about turbines and improved effeciency yet many are powered by rudimentary and ineffecient boilers that do little in the way of heat exhange.
BrimstoneMerc 1 week ago
@BrimstoneMerc
Thanks. The boiler I built kicks out around 40kW running normally. So I do have plenty of power to drive it. This winter, I'm just running it to heat water to heat the house. But when I get back to running the turbine, that steam power flows through whatever turbine I hook up. So yes, I have quite a lot of boiler HP to drive the turbines.
rt
woodfirepower 1 week ago
The red tubes are just closing off holes in the housing that I'll install pressure and or temperature probes into. To just push some air through the turbine as a test of how well things fit, I didn't have a bunch of pipe plugs for 1/8", so installed the tubing fittings, then had the tubes run from one port to another so there is no exit to atmosphere. Eventually, they will be used to monitor the steam pressure and temperature around the interior of turbine during operation.
woodfirepower 7 months ago
where ar the red hoses for ?
you have 1 hose for inlet, and 5 hoses for......
tweeling80 7 months ago