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  • That shore station operator can't send good morse worth a flip. His spacing/timing is all messed up. And Mr. Radio Operator on the M/V Handy, your Morse isn't very good either. So what if you can copy 60WPM? Who gives a rat's rear end? I sent all my traffic via SITOR including military message traffic to USCG stations. I rarely used the satellite. I did use CW as a backup to stay fresh on it. I sent near perfect code at 20 or 25WPM.

  • @T5radioop Probably you are another american idiot... americans are most stupid ppl on the world... Good Oprerator can EASILY copy 60WPM telegraphy (opchat), and write 35 WPM radiotelegramms but of course not idiot trained by US Army. You are best trained in killing women and children. Russians were the best operators, there was ppl who copy 80 WPM (!)

    And you hear mesh because all cheap cameras has compression algorithms, it 'sampling' sound in awful way...

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  • Hello my friend I was SWL on marine bands from early 90's (as a 13 yrs boy)... I was copy THOUSANDS of QTC :))) rusian and others.... Later as a ham i had QSO with some coastal stations on their open days : SVA , GKB and other...

    I was really love marine CW ^^

    BEST RGDS 73/88

    TOM/SP8WJT

  • 73 from a Polish R/O since 1981 through 1998. Good old days are gone forever.

  • Há meus tempos !!! 73

  • Wow. wonderful ! The receiver is NRD-10 JRC ? 73!

  • very good 73! de RA6AMF

  • Mf j564b TKS 4 yr comments 73 88

  • @yusufis08: thank you for the video which brings me back so many beautiful memories. BTW, i cannot fing this internet list of professional ROs. I tried to google it but nope. I'd like to have a look at it and join.

    73's TU SU

  • @Rich8951: to finish, i worked all over the world, GKA, GKB, DAM, PCH, WCC, WLO, LPD, WOO, WOM, IAR, SVA etc etc etc..Yes GKA was probably the busiest but SVA was not far from them.

  • @Rich8951:....BTW, the operation is not one of the best but believe me, not amongst the worst. Furthermore both sides are greek and they surely include abbreviations and "ways to understand each other" that are common to their nationality (as italians we also had them).

    Ah, just in case you start criticizing myself as well or questioning the QTC number: No, i worked before the Inmarsat and mostly on Passengers ships so you just can imagine the amount of traffic we were handling in those days.

  • @Rich8951: i am an ex italian deep sea R/O and i worked both on ships and at ashore coast radiostations. I don't the total number of QTCs i received or sent (many, believe me) but does it really matter? I played always respect to all my colleagues and fellow ROs. Oh yes, i remember having to receive QTCs from really bad transmissions but who was i to tell they were LIDS (as you call them). I always iterrupted when it was unclear and ask to repeat. So, i respect you as i always respected anybody

  • Do they still use CW?

  • @Rich8951 I COULD JUST DELETE YOUR COMMENT BUT , I thought no, let people see that you R NOT QUALIFY to belong to the CW family, from what you had to say. AR VA

  • @yusufis08

    Delete my comment if you wish. As long as you keep this up here, everyone knows YOU are a LID.

    You should see the comments on the private Radio Officer Internet list. It's made up of over 500 former Radio Officers. TO A MAN, they agree that the operating in your video is a terrible example of CW operating.

    You claim to have sailed for 15 years on Greek ships. If that is true, it is pitiful because you never "got it" about CW.  You never will.

  • @ Rich8951 What a nonsense ... I made a Living out of this and I have the videos here posted (some voyages, to prove it) peel off your ego OM and relax a bit. Practice random acts of kindness to people you don’t know. Help people who don’t expect your help. Be generous when it makes the least sense to. Respond to aggression with forgiveness. Be important, not self-important. You can’t keep your eyes on the road and the scenery if you keep checking your constipated looks in the mirror!

  • @yusufis08

    Take your random acts of kindness and shove them straight up your arse!

  • @Rich8951 Now you "teach" GMDSS at the Maritime Academy, are you getting any job satisfaction? Having all the LIDS around you it must be tough. Are they driving you mad? no? Do they know your attitude towards LIDS? Do they know that you are a BIGOT? QUOTE How weak are Argentinian leaders that a woman has to lead? UNQUOTE (your comments about Evita's video) What that was all about? You're ridiculing yourself , annoying people with yr ignorance. I am not wasting my time with you no more. QRT

  • @yusufis08 I read yr query with that american idiot. You are complietly right! This is beauty of CW that everybody can work in other way! I was very young CW OP and I was sending 50-60 WPM telegraphy in rag chewing QSOs few hours a day, DAY-BY-DAY and I remember these old pricks who were annoyed because they were unable to copy us and they were claiming that we sending QSD/bad. They always were LOOSERS, good radioman is able to copy even very bad CW, with bad QSA, QSB, QRM, QRI ..

  • @yusufis08 (2) These ppl were so called 'Sunday Hams' they switched on their radiostations once a week and they were sensding CW 15....24 WPM, they were able copy only basic info but if u ask them something open text they were unable to answer u... They were awful hams, loosers and they critisised u...

    When CW OP is sending a lot of TFC he always sending in special way, and another good OP always is able to copy him

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  • @yusufis08 And another funny thing that I remember after years... American R/T :)) When american calling ashore his first words were something like this: "Listen carefully because I'm paying 5$/min" and he was talking like machine gun 1-2 minutes :)))

    Russians were talking with families normally, 10 -20 minute, slowly, coz they were paying few cents a minute .... They same was with QTCs..

    And american CG this is another funny thing :))))

  • @Rich8951(You should see the comments on the private Radio Officer Internet list. It's made up of over 500 former Radio Officers.) I am so proud I got their attention! You just barking at the wrong tree! I signed on, (20 years old) with a super tanker M/T St. Anthony/J4AA cable:papas N.Y It was my second job at sea. I went around the globe from Phila in Delaware, to Rastanura/Gulf loading, then via Spore/Honolulu to Anacortes Wa. CW was a means to an end, let it R.I.P. OM and get on with life.

  • @yusufis08

    Well, if you feel that way, why'd you post the video in the first place.

    Yes, you did get the attention of PROFESSIONAL radio officers, and they all think the operating here in this video is terrible.

    I used to work at U.S. Coastal Stations. I know about the "experienced LIDS" that sailed for years out there. They must have been the most stupid people of all! They could barely send code, yet they kept their jobs.

    To reiterate, the operations in that video are shit.

  • Yes, you got their attention because of how LOUSY the operating is in your video.

    You put it up as an example of "good" operating, which means you don't know what good operating is!

    There were a log of R/O's who were BUMS. LIke all the fucking Indian operators. What a bunch of incompetent LIDS they were. The Chinese ops couldn't send code to save their own ass!

  • @Richard8951 (You put it up as an example of "good" operating, which means you don't know what good operating is!) This video is a typical, ship to shore, QSO in CW with SVA, nothing else. It brings back GOOD memories, especially to people who had the same experiences at sea as R/ops. The comments I got from others reflects that. If the code it's not up to your standards so what? Nobody asked your opinion.Boasting about your career, and your offensive language, it's a disgrace. Get a grip!

  • @Rich8951 In practise this was impossible when crossing the PACIFIC to QSO SVA but the Greek operators created relay stations to help each other. It was unbelievable how many times I crossed the Pacific getting all my SVA traffic relayed to me like this. I am proud I played a part in all this myself.

    They were first of all nice, polite and good people, good professionals.

    If you RICH8951 consider yourself one of them, accept that your comment was TERRIBLE!!

  • @Rich8951 Some of R/op they would take the piss some times, or let you boil for a while before take your QTC but who are you to criticise them? They had a pile of traffic in front of them to get rid off, and some times they had to let go, or refuse people who were holding the traffic back.

    I worked with SVA for about 15 years on Greek ships. We were obliged to contact mostly SVA to keep the costs down, not only in CW, but in R/Telephony too for the crew members.

  • @yusufis08

    Who am I to critize them? Some one who knows the difference between good code and CRAP code!

    Also, I did a lifelong career in Maritime Radio. I personally handled over 100,000 radiotelegrams, at coast stations and on board ship.

    Hey, it's not my fault if your BILLIONAIRE Greek shipping magnates were too cheap to let you use another coast station. I personally don't believe you though. If you had a QTC that had to go out, and SVA was out of range, did you just sit on it?

  • @Rich8951(If you had a QTC that had to go out, and SVA was out of range, did you just sit on it). It was up to us what station to use. If it was something urgent it will go through KPH/KFS , routing traffic via SVA. We had our (every 2 hours) Greek R/ops QRX  channels using R/T in every Ocean. R/Ops in Indian ports (sitting in anchor having nothing else to do) will QSP all traffic to/from SVA for ships in the Pacific which asked for QSP. It was pure camaraderie. Made many friends like this

  • @Rich8951 (If you had a QTC that had to go out, and SVA was out of range, did you just sit on it) In the 80's I was working the Pacific a lot with Bulk carries. Loading fishmeals and minerals from Chile/Peru going via L.A for Bunkers, to Japan/China/Korea. Prince Rupert was the northest point and Maggelan straits the southest I been. In the traffic of KPH/KFS were only a few Greek ships listed always, while in the Ocean hundreds were sailing. It was because we QSP to SVA. Hated the Aleutians

  • Rich8951 Everybody has his own way of sending and this is the beauty of CW. The SVA people had the heaviest traffic globally and the equipment they had at their disposal were unadequote. Only because they were professional and very good operators, done their job very good indeed.

  • @yusufis08

    The code must be READABLE, and the code I heard was CRAP. SVA was NOT the busiest station. That honor goes to Portishead Radio/GKA, who in it's heyday worked 1,500 ships PER DAY and handled TENS OF MILLIONS of words per year.

  • The Greek operators were usually pretty good. They liked 'bug' and electronic keys.

    SVA was so busy especially Christmas and Easter when all the crew would send Greetings telegrams to their families. There were about 4000 Greek ships back in those days, you could wait hours in a queue and then lose contact as the frequency faded out and have to start all over again on another frequency!

  • The Greek operators were usually pretty good. They liked 'bug' and electronic keys.

    SVA was so busy especially Christmas and Easter when all the crew would send Greetings telegrams to their families. There were about 4000 Greek ships back in those days, you could wait hours in a queue and then lose contact as the frequency faded out and have to start all over again on another frequency!

  • The Greek operators were usually pretty good. They liked 'bug' and electronic keys.

    SVA was so busy especially Christmas and Easter when all the crew would send Greetings telegrams to their families. There were about 4000 Greek ships back in those days, you could wait hours in a queue and then lose contact as the frequency faded out and have to start all over again on another frequency!

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  • @hrbear

    NO. It is NOT excellent. The sending is TERRIBLE. These "operators" are a DISGRACE to professional radiotelegraphers!

  • At sea you had to get the qtc's because nobody else will fetch them for you.So everyone used to the "shit" from 9VG/WCC/KPH/KFS/ or WLO were you been working once, and from many others. Receiving from a tape it was the worst felling though. But the worst was the arrogance of some like your type, with big EGOS, who could not be bothered to listen someone who could not send to your satisfaction. WCC using semis broke every rule but I loved the long dashes in the Ls and Ks, they were fantastic.

  • As a Coast Station Operator at WCC from 81 to 84, I would always "paint a picture" in my mind of the ship and R/O. Although my picture would look different, I think that R/Os are artist by nature. I still QSO but on the Ham Bands. 73/TU SEEU DIT DIT

  • Wow - this is fascinating. I have great respect for all radio operators in the maritime services! 73 de NW7US dit dit

  • NW7US de 9HJV2 GM TKS 73 . .

  • @NW7US

    You say that because you don't understand. This "operator" is not respectable. He can't even send legible code.

  • I hear SVF as well,making a mistake in the ships name by the way, corrected by the operator of 9HJV2. If I do remember well (it's been a long long time ago, late sixties, early seventies) only Greek ships were allowed to work with SVF. SVA was for international traffic. I always admired the Greek operators for the speed they worked with.

    KLS from this side and 73

  • Nice video which brings back memories. I did this job from 1991-1996.

  • @GuyAwoke

    If you did "that job" from 1991 to 1996, you DIDN'T do "that" job.

    You probably had an Inmarsat terminal, where all your traffic went. All you did with CW is sit 500 kc/s.

    HOW MANY TELEGRAMS HAVE YOUR SENT AND RECEIVE IN YOU "CAREER???" We'd all like to know.

  • @Rich8951 I hate having to reply to such an aggressive post to justify a comment I made ages ago but I was on various British, Dutch and Italian vessels. 6 In total, 2 had inmarsat terminals and none had rtty. We made worldwide trips and of the non satcom vessels most traffic was MF and HF CW. Average traffic was maybe 4-5 outgoing and incoming cables a day and 4 weather OBS messages, so i guess that's something in the thousands. I used well adjusted straight keys and took pride in what I did.

  • @GuyAwoke

    If you don't want people to comment on what you say, then I would advise you to NOT post any comments to an International Web Site like YouTube.

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