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  • just got one today in perfect condition for 7.00$ Its For My Retro Duo snes/nes System :P

  • My favorite thing about the older Nintendo and Sega game controllers is that they can take a great deal of abuse and still work great, which is why Street Fighter II and the older Mortal Kombat games are still my favorite fighting games.

  • My favorite controller of all time...

  • "You get the feeling you could run over this with a car and not cause any damage to it"

    Trust me that's NOT the case, when I was a kid I accidentally crushed my controller under a chair and the down and left directions on the d-pad became unresponsive after that.

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  • hate ir or not the snes is the classic system ever made better than genesis turbografx and all that we got great games on it too damn is even more fun than the new games sometimes i stillhave my snes and i play games like super mario world or donkey kong country and its actually more fun sometimes than playing games like cod or gears of war the problem with this is that games nowdays they take the story too seriously and forget that your playing a videogame not a life experience

  • The Music Starting At 1:37 

    Who Know What Song it Is?

  • At least Sony was original with the dual analog sticks which revolutionized 3D games. Microsoft was the company that had 0 originality in their controllers.

  • How do you do it mark! A FOUR MINUTE review on a controller. And its Entertaining. So thank you.

  • Oh And My SNES Is Yellowish Also With A Little Bit Of Gray

  • Wierd Your Controler Says SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System While Mine Just Has The Nintendo Logo And All The Bottons Sorry If Spelled Wrong And The D Pad Is All My Controler Has Along With The Wire That Goes Into The SNES

  • megadrive 6 button gamepad destroys this primitive thing

  • Ah! Good all memories of playing Super Mario Bros. All-Start :)

    Also Pitfall:Mayan Adventure

    FUCK I CAN STILL NEVER PASS THE FIRST BOSS! D:<

  • When I was a kid, it always confused as to why it wasn't 'A, B, C, D'... and it still does. Any explanations? I bet there's some simple, profoundly sound reasoning for it I've never been aware of.

  • @lyingmongoose Maybe it's because the Japanese read from right to left, so it would be b and then a... Just a theory, probably not true..

  • @AGsArmorWarrior I thought only Arabs read stuff from right to left.

  • @PSspecialist They do, but so do the Chinese and Japanese. Not sure if any other countries do.

  • @AGsArmorWarrior NO, japanese read from left to right. They only read right to left when the text is displaying from top to bottom. Dont talk about stuff you never learned.

  • @woerink Congratulations, you proved that I was only partially right. Never said I was an expert, so don't be such an ass.

  • @lyingmongoose I think it's like that because it's easier to relate an "x" or a "y" for buttons than "c" or "d".

  • pIERDOLONE REKLAMY!!!!1

  • The Sega Genesis controller sucked in my opinion thats why I still play Super Nintendo its controller is awsome im not saying that the Sega Genesis sucks its just that I like SNES more is all im saying.

  • I have to say that the SNES controller is my most favorite controller ever. I even find it to be less bulky than the Genesis controller. The only problem is that the buttons feel a little stiff.

  • Yep I still have a SNES, hooked up to a 32 inch HDTV, yea!

  • Hah, you can totally see his sega bias with this review.

  • eh. i found snes to be more FUN. i hate wii. kinda dont need to make controllers any more easy to deal with or remote-like...and fuck sony.

  • @TheSmutchypuss You hate wii? For about $100, the wii is an all in one system with the emulators for snes, nes, genesis, and more games, using the snes controller. You can watch avis on the tv off external hdd, a large hacking community. Easy to rip games to play on a usb loader. Wii's pretty awesome, aside from the games! There are some that are good though.

  • this was my favorite controller and game system, too bad i lost my power supply.

  • I have the turbo version, a bigger controller and shaped like an xbox controller.

  • Why did they make two of the buttons concave and two convex for the US version?

  • @p0tat1s i

    The guy who designed the North American version of the Super Nintendo wanted the players to know the difference between the A&B buttons and the X&Y buttons, or something along those lines.

  • i still have my SNES i had it when i was 5!

  • You guys should review the PAL SNES, its a much better design and the controller is slightly different. ( P.S its the same model as the Jap version )

  • This controller is the best for fighting games, particularly Mortal Kombat 2 and Killer Instinct. Excellent, but simple D-Pad.

  • @ohnoesmaybe

    Lol

  • The SNES gave me Earthbound...nuff said.

  • simple, new consoles sucks, today, the only thing care is the graphics, the companies forget the fun.

  • @SalamanserDP not nintendo

  • @NickGamingGeek nintendo consoles still good consoles, i'm talking about playstation and xbox.

  • @SalamanserDP oh well then i totally agree

  • should i buy donkey kong country or super mario world

  • @TheBadBuffalo sure

  • @TheBadBuffalo Super Mario World.

  • sony always rips things off from nintendo, they always have.

  • Europe version is Better in my opinion

  • lol the things are called prongs. Great vid

  • I always felt with this pad that the D-Pad was slightly pushing downward. If I pushed forward, it would occasionally cause the character to crouch. I remember the problem as a kid when I played the system in stores. Now that I have one after all these years, I still feel it does that.

  • I still prefer the PAL/ Japanese one

  • on the SNES controller i always found it to be kind of dull. the NES i liked how the black, reds and grey stood up so much. On teh SNES it was all grey toned, with a dull purple and no contrast. If it had some black tones design here and there it woudl eb far more awesome IMO 

  • Sony's PlayStation was originally conceived as a SNES disc add-on to be used with a SNES controller. So yeah you could say the design was "rip'd off." ...sorta.

  • PS3 & XBOX sucks!!

    A lot of graphics =P

    I prefer 16 bits

  • @MasianGaming Your correct. I was expecting a idiotic retort but I was instead I was given one that wasnt at all like "L4Wl h00 c4r32 pl4214110n FTW!".

  • @MasianGaming Yea, because sony got greedy first and asked nintendo for for a ridicules amount of money.

    I support Tvgn100

  • Sony has been copying off of Nintendo's ideas ever since the Playstation came out in 1995. You know the Playstation Move? Where do you think they got that off of? The Playstation controller? Totally copying the Super Nintendo. Sony, why do you do this?

  • It's a shame the US had grey-ish looking buttons. The European controller was much more colorful.

  • @LogiForce86

    It looked better but it was worse than the US one, the Y and X are the same as A and B all of them are rounded.

  • @LogiForce86 Yeah, i'm from europe. And i personnaly don't like the US controller.

  • @C0reInside I'm from Europe as well and still own a dutch (PAL) SNES. ;)

  • @LogiForce86 Oh i'm dutch too, and i also still own my dutch (PAL) SNES :P

  • @LogiForce86 yeah im from australia and the buttons were red yellow blue and green 

  • Nintendo and Sony wanted to make a CD-based add-on for the SNES.

    But Nintendo did not fill their part of the deal and started working with Phillips.

    That's when CD-i came out. Apart from that Sony already put work in the SNES-CD but decided to release that onto the market and called it, you guessed it.. the PlayStation.

  • genesis FTW!

  • Blasphemous review

    The SNES controller was and IS the best game controller ever made.....

    I would seriously play next-gen games with a SNES controller than those blister-inducing piles of torture devices called 360 and PS3 game controllers

  • i got a super nintendo n it still works but i lost the power cord could anyone help me out n tell me were i could purchase one?

  • I liked this controller so much, very beautiful design, godd grip. And (for me), this was the base for Sony to make the PlayStation Controler.

  • snes is the best controller of all time...when they added those 2 buttons on top they really changed it up..that's where sega messed up with their 6 button controllers..every system after this has used this design

  • you have done a review of any game controller that i can think of but you havnt done a review of the original xbox controllerm, can you do that pls

  • @GameSkiller117 Well.. He did!

  • @MrSaturn8881 no the ORIGINAL xbox controller, not the 360

  • @GameSkiller117 hes done a 360 controler reveiw and an original xbox controler reveiw to

  • @scenscoff where? i havnt seen it

  • @GameSkiller117 well go to his chanel and search for it or go to his 2008 vids for the 3690 and he's recently done the xbox controlers the xbox control s was his last reveiw as of now

  • @scenscoff ah, i found it, thanks man!

  • @GameSkiller117 no problem dude

  • Mark you are an idiot. In every review, there is at least one moment where I think 'He's done a shitty job there.' In particular here, OF COURSE the PS1 controller ripped off the SNES. The button layout is identical. The hand grips are simply an addition, an evolution; they don't discount the blatant copying. Well, you won't even read this so I'm wasting my time, but fuck you anyway. Make better videos.

  • @YummyBananaFish

    wow really yummy give it a rest he has prob played more ps 1 games and done more reviews and has more insight then u would ever know!!

  • @bangaio1 Meh, I think he's lazy personally. Most games he barely plays before reviewing, it seems. Plenty of mistakes and wrong information. Plus the comparisons he makes between games or controllers are always really crap. Yeah, he has played more games than me; that just makes it worse that he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time!

  • So a Playstation controller can't play SNES game? Who woulda thought?

  • when i was 5 which was is in 2002 and my mom bought me and my brother that was the same age a super nintendo for $5 and 3 games which were super mario bros metroid and mortal combat and them my sister broght me a whole box of games from when the super nintendo was new and i played it for 3 years thinking it was the newest system out lol but then i got the gamecube

  • Pal snes controller FTW

  • ive been a gamer since i was child , i started with super nintendo , and finally a had a xbox360 kinect that a the end i sold it in a gamestop and now i want to buy a ps3

  • the d-pad on the snes was the same as the d-pad on the n64 !!!!!!

  • @pressstart66 It's actually not. You may want to do a direct comparison. I have 4 controllers for each system; know them pretty well.

  • @AlexFolland I did it looks the same except the n64 is bigger by a bit

  • i liked rhe european version better :3

  • @jiggling86 ya and the japanese 1 too with the colored buttons

  • Does it work with snes hd on ipad

  • i wonder if the snes controller plugs into a playstation 1/2

  • i could never find the snes controller with the color buttons i miss the days of snes

  • nintendo controllers arent that bad until they release the N64 :l N64 has one of the most messed up controllers i have ever seen and even worst the super pad 64

  • i have like 5 of those :) and i still playing super nintendo, AND ITS AWESOME!!!! I LOVE IT!

  • my snes controller still works D.

  • @pepitobarc mine too :D

  • I ran over my SNES controller now my car has a flat tire. T~T

  • you are a dumb rembember the time bettween those controllers

    super nintendo 1990 (japan)

    play station 1994 (japan)

  • @banzaidaniel Do you think he doesn't know that?

  • SNES IS MY FAVORITE CONSOLE :)

  • the pal one is nicer. still not as good as an n64 pad mind, and to be honest i liked the dreamcast pad too.

  • @wetherhills word, more colors make it more beautiful to watch

  • This control was th best of all time. Mixed Classic few buttons and still triggers. My fav control.

  • Oh and TheLovemusicguy, you are a belligerent ass face. The truth hurts.

  • No not that. The Wii suck dick, and the only people who have them are little kids. The only selling point is that the Mario series and Pokemon is back. That's all that Nintendo has.

  • Nitnendo NEEDS to release another cartridge based console with a REAL CONTROLLER not some stupid ass movement sensing piece of shit.

  • @naptimewithturtles2 dude shut up. they made a classic controller/pro special for you

  • I'm only 14, but the SNES is one of my favorites! Super Mario World was my first introduction to Mario, no, to Nintendo in general. New games are great, but give me the retro any day!

  • @SuperMarioWorld1595 me too, my favorite nes game was contra

  • @SuperMarioWorld1595 im 10 and smw was also my first that game is awesome so is super metroid

  • @SuperMarioWorld1595

    I'm 14 to and i got my interest for video games from Super Mario World on the Gba.

    And after that i have been crazy about the Snes i got one on christmas and by then my collection have grown.

    And I have to agree with you that the retro is so much better than the new Xbox 360 and Ps3, i mean the new ones are good, but just not as good as the old Nintendo Stuff.

    Or no, the Wii and Xbox 360 are good the Ps3 just suck balls.

    Ps1 and Ps2 good, Ps3 doodie.

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh How does PS3 suck? you get free online forever and you get much better exclusives, also PS3 is now cheaper than a 360 and you get two games free with it and you get to pick them.

    My Xbox is a bunch of shit, its crashed alot of times, on XBL it signs me out for no reason, I get kicked from parties all the time and the servers and games are full of little English 8 year old`s.

    Also it takes me forever to find games, on XBL it takes 10 mins to find a game, on PSN its 4 secs.

  • @xHozzah

    The Ps3 doesen't have many good exclusives and really the whole consoleis just filled with Fps's and Gow and stuff in my personal opinion the console is the worst ever to sell millions.

    Sorry for my bad english.

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh PS3 doesn't have any good exclusives...? we have Uncharted, Resistance, Haze, Little Big Planet, MAG, Socom, Gran Turismo, Infamous, Metal Gear Solid and more. That`s all Adventure, Side Scrolling, FPS, Third Person shooter, Action the whole shebang ! What does Nintendo have? Mario, Luigi, Kirby, Zelda.. they are all Birds eye view, Side scrolling pieces of shit for 7 year old`s! Grow up and play real games jackass, I respect Nintendo, just not their exclusives.

  • @xHozzah

    Wow you got to be kidding, i respected sony back in the days of Ps1 and ps2 but ps3 is just a pile of shit.

    Its exclusives suck, the only thing they care about is graphics and sound.

    The Nintendo wii isn't my favorite console ever but it has some good games.

    And its the casual gamer that plays Ps3 the challenge is lower than your moms boobs and the games are almost beating itself.

    Play some Contra, super mario, Kirby, metroid, zelda, street fighter 2, Castlevania and be a man!

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh

    And its funny that you say play real games and grow up because without Super Mario your favorite franchises wouldn't exist.

    The ps3 is just good if you are a kid that likes shooting zombies and thinking they're cool.

    But Nintendo gamers just play most of the games because they are just fun and they don't care if jerks like you are saying "Hey he's playing Nintendo let's pretend were gamers and say that the ps3's games are more hardcore when they're not.

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL those games are for little kids, be a man..?, you be a man and go and play BattleField Bad Company 2 because I can sure as hell say that BFBC2 got a better review than most Nintendo Wii and SNES reviews. Same for MGS 4, it got 10/10!!! same for GTA IV, but do you see them on Nintendo systems NO because Nintendo`s system always have old Graphics cards which make them look jaggedy.

    PS3 exclusives have got better reviews than any Nintendo game.You Rtard

  • @xHozzah

    Yes ign gave them that score but they are dumb.

    I think everybody can agree with me on that.

  • @xHozzah

    And no the ps3 exsclusives haven't got better reviews than the Snes, in 2 years the ps3 will be shit while the Snes will live on and in 5 years we will be laughing about the ps3's games and graphics.

    Look at a good reviewer's scores like Screwattack, Knightwing01, Deivion212, Cgr, Avgn, or just anyone that has been playing video games for the past 10 years.

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh In 5 years we will be laughing about the PS3`s graphics and games? Its been 5 years since the Wii came out and we are still laughing about how fucking terrible the online service is and how the only good exclusives are Resident Evil 4 and Goldeneye.

    I mean really.... just face it, this generation of consoles have better games, the only good games the SNES had were Fire Pro Wrestling, but as most fucking Nintendo games its in fucking Japanese.

    Sony wins. Once again.

  • @xHozzah

    No lets face you like new consoles better than old and thinks that wfpr is the best snes game because you can't play a colorful game, Grow up its okay to be a kid its okay to have fun its okay to be childish call it whatever you want but i think thats grown up.

    And if you think that Cod is more manly than Contra, Castlevania , Metroid and Kirby Super Star then you have problems.

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh Say whatever, I prefer new consoles, its got the games I want to play, you may prefer old systems better which is fair enough, its just personally I just dont see the big deal with Mario and Zelda ect.

    Freedom of speech.

  • @ahsdjsdgfhjgdhhhhhhh What game on the snes is WFPR?

  • @Deadjoe669

    Some wrestling game a next gen gamer thought was the best snes game because he haven't played any otrher goodies because he thinks its just for kids.

  • Super nintendos are great but nothing beats n64. Snes comes in second though

  • bold review . make the review at that time when the control was released.the design or what -ever was top at that time. i used it for 8 years and i will give it 8/8

  • OMFG i hate when people use the word (gamepad) =(

  • WOW!!! This review kinda sucks!!! The SNES controller is considered one the greatest gamepads ever made. It revolutionized + was there ever a standard pad that was a good as this for any type of game, especially the street fighters? That's why other manufactures tried to copied it & failed. The PS + XBOX gamepads suck ass for fighting games & had to be re-made for comfort etc... Some thing that never happened with the SNES one btw.

  • well the nes 2 had a rounded controller

  • @SonnyJWright No sir. All of this Call of Duty & Halo bullshit is what's ruining gaming today. In a few years, 2 things will be completely ruined. One is rap with all these bullshit artists like Lil Wayne, and the other is gaming with all these stupid fucking excuses for games they're putting out.

  • @produqt17 Okay, you dont like fps games. Get over yourself

  • @produqt17 FPS, TPS: all the games involving guts and gore and guns are ruining gaming. I wish the companies would stop making games like COD and Halo and go back to making original and unique games.

  • @CStars55 what the crap are you talking about!?! the cod series is awesome, and so is halo. i do actually really agree with the idea of more creative games though. people need to make less first person shooters and focus on newer more creative ideas. they still need to make first person shooters, just not as many.

  • @TheCRAZYLEGS14 You may find COD and Halo awesome, but I hate them. But, yeah: they've gotta stop making so many FPS: there are too many. At the very least, Halo and Cod, along with a few other FPS/TPS games, like Goldeneye, should be the only ones out there. They should cancel some of the other shooters and go and work on something unique, instead of shooter after shooter after shooter being released. It feels like there are 15+ Shooters coming out a year. They've gotta lower the number.

  • @MrHotrod68 For sure, I'm disappointed Nintendo stopped using cartridges for their platforms after the N64. Disc Readers get worn out over time, while my Super Nintendo is almost 20 years old and will probably last me several more years. The only system still using cartridges is the handheld Nintendo DS/DSi.

  • SNES is the G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time) of gaming systems. I really, really dislike XBox. Bill Gates has enough money! Once he released that damned console, Sega stopped making consoles. Really Bill? You're that greedy? Sorry XBox fans, this should've been stopped a long time ago, seriously. Fuck Halo, it's overrated and wack. As for first person shooters, they remade Goldeneye, go pick that up. Haters hate now.

  • @TheProduqt17

    amen to that and the good thing is that it doesnt break as easy

    and much, much stronger

  • @TheProduqt17 Wii sucks the new goldeneye sucks halo's pretty alright. quit living in the past

  • @TheProduqt17 I miss Sega although I didn't play there consoles much when they were around but I went back to the genesis, saturn and dreamcast and I love it so yeah DAMN YOU SONY AND MICROSHIT!

  • @TheProduqt17 it was sony not microsoft

  • @TheProduqt17, I hate XBox too, but Bill Gates doesn't work at Microsoft anymore, it's that monkey shit Steve Ballmer. Bill is not greedy, but Steve is.

  • @TheProduqt17 I personally found the sega consoles being a bit horrible. goldeneye sucked too.

  • @TheProduqt17 It wasn't Microsoft dude, it was Sony -.-

  • @XcandyXchanX Actually,SEGA self-destructed themselves.Starting with Sega CD and losing money,then 32X and losing money,Saturn was also a bit of fail,Dreamcast failed in Japan as soon as Sony PS2 came out (because it was the cheapest DVD player on the market),and then later in other conturies.

    SEGA got desperate and this is what happened.

  • @xan1242 You're probably right though, I've also heard that about the ''cheapest dvd player'' thing.

    That's why I always said it was Sony's fault.

    but Produqt, read xan's comment.

  • @TheProduqt17 dumb ass it was sony

  • @MrMacrulz lol

  • @TheProduqt17 Bill gates gives a shit load of money to charity every year...hes not greedy. And fuck sega,

  • @TheProduqt17 I agree with ALL OF THAT except the first sentence. Dreamcast owns, mate.

  • @TheProduqt17 Lol'd at the Sega part... disagree the SNES is the GOAT, but still, you make a good point...

  • @TheProduqt17 I think you mean Sony. The PS2 killed SEGA hardware.

  • @HalSka8 todays things r still good play some zelda or codbops

  • you think the snes controller dpad is small? try the gamecube controller dpad lol

  • sega sucker

  • thumbs up if you still have your snes

  • I like how CRG sees the SNES as a successor to the NES, and not really as a rival to the Megadrive. Not many people look at it that way.

  • I own the European SNES game console and I have to say that both the Console and the controller look way better than the US one and I love USA stuff so much just saying, maybe it's because the US model came a bit earlier than the EU one so I guess they had time to do some adjustments. (And the European console looks like the Japanesse one...)

  • the ds has the same button placement as the snes.

  • your reviews suck, they did rip that damn controller. So what they added a few things, it's a newer controller, it's a fucking updated SNES controller

  • @sonicteam2k1 Alright: 1, He said he didn't know. 2, Proove it. 3, You're an idiot. 4: His reviews suck 'cause he doesn't know about some stupid rumour that you think is true but probably have no real evidence? Pleease, grow up and get a life.

  • @sonicteam2k1 I really hate when you fanboys accuse other companies of "ripping off" or "copying" the controller. Using a similar idea is not copying.

  • My only gripe with these things looking back is the fact that, with enough time and gamer frustration, the start and select buttons can can get mashed completely into the controller and actually end up under plastic shell, never to be retrieved again.

    Both of the controllers that came with our original SNES have one or both of those buttons messed up. Then again, we did play a bit too much Street Fighter 2 on it's hardest difficulty.

  • I think that the european snes controller looks way better than the american one

  • I was hoping to get some answers about the buttons in this review, the japanese and european versions of the SNES have very different looking consoles, cartridges and controllers. In my opinion looking a lot better than the american release, why did this happen?

  • @xyanide1986 The color of the buttons are different because they wanted the snes game pad to match the American snes model.

  • @worldruler10

    ....Yeah but why did they make a different looking model to begin with? Region protection doesn't justify it in my opinion.

  • Nintendo helped develop the original PlayStation, which may explain why the controllers look somewhat similar. They're both awesome controllers.

  • I've never considered the PS1 controller to be a rip-off of the SNES controller. Button layout is a bit similar, but when used in game-playing, they feel completely different.

  • Not one of the better looking ones? I always felt that the SNES controller was THE archetype of what an awesome controller should be. It's practically perfect for the system that it was for, imo

  • they did rip off Nintendo, I don't blame them, the controller is so awesome.

  • @worldruler10 Its one thing to rip off, its another to expand on an idea. Do you think that the n64 and gcn controllers are rip offs of the playstation controller?

  • @kR0B45 One thing is that the n64 had the first analog stick and rumble pak and gamecube didn't really copy Sony and I heard that Nintendo and Sony were working on a Cd add on for the snes, so your have right but Sony still copied Nintendo till this day( PS Move).

  • @worldruler10 Really? The n64 wasnt the first to use an analogue stick, sony has never had a rumble pak, and ps move sucks. I could give several reasons as to how the gamecube and n64 controllers were a "rip off" of others, but as i said, expanding/borrowing an existing idea is not the same as ripping off

  • @kR0B45 Fine, Sony didn't copy Nintendo they just "borrowed" their Ideas and yes the first analog stick was by Nintendo, but it was called a "digital" stick even though their is barely any difference, and the rumble idea was made into the Dualshock controller for the PS1.

  • @worldruler10 The first consoles with analogue sticks on their controllers were the Vectrex and the Atari 5200, both in 1982 (14 years before the n64). In case youve never seen the PS1 dualshock, it has a completely different design, and more features than the n64 controller. If you want to play the "copy" game, the n64 controller copied the sega saturn controller, vectrex controller, and the playstation controller

  • @kR0B45 I assume you are talking about the Saturn's 3D controller? I don't think that Nintendo copied Sega. I think that the advent of 3D gaming made both companies realize that an analog stick was the way to go. The N64 controller was being developed in 1994 and possibly 1993. I'm not even sure that Nights was announced by then, let alone Sega's controller.

  • @ChicoEdge No not the 3D controller, the regular controller. The n64 controller has the same 6 face button layout as the saturn/genesis controller. The gamecube controller did copy the saturn 3d controller though

  • @kR0B45 I would still say your but let us stop this at once, my facts are, some of yours are correct, I see into that sony didn't copy Nintendo, The Vetrex and the 5200 were the FIRST analog control(not 3d analog though) the sega saturn came out before the