The Great Giuseppe Giacomini sings "Niun mi tema" from Otello

[liEder89]

ora credo vivamente che kaufmann potrebbe imparare a cantare studiando con giacomini!

[EdmundStAustell]

Sì. Non posso dire nulla di Kaufmann, perché non sono a conoscenza del suo lavoro, ma ho seguito la carriera di Giacomini da vicino, e sono convinto che egli è un grande tenore.

[liEder89]

@EdmundStAustell ..basta sentirlo cantare percapire che canta in modo totalmente sbagliato!Ho avuto modo di conoscere giacomini!UNa persona fantastica,umile,competente,ec­celso musicista!Conoscitore della tecnica che gli ha permesso di saper utilizzare la sua voce al massimo!Cordiale ed estremamente umano!UNa persona rara!Saluti

[EdmundStAustell]

@liEder89 Condivido il tuo entusiasmo per questo tenore meraviglioso. Non ha mai ricevuto il riconoscimento qui negli Stati Uniti che si meritava, per la semplice ragione che non ha giocato il clown, e non ha cercato di capitalizzare sugli stereotipi. Era un artista serio, un uomo serio e formale; e merita molto credito per il mantenimento della sua dignità e integrità artistica di fronte alla "show business", e tutta la sua stupidità cinica e calcolata.

[liEder89]

@EdmundStAustell ...mi rivedo molto in lui perciò lo adoro!Una volta al telefono mi disse:io gia quando mi alzo la mattina se la voce non sta bene mi sento male invece se vedo che tutto sta bene mi sento molto meglio e affronto bene la giornata!Gli dissi maestro per me è un onore immenso parlare con lei!E lui mi rispose:-siamo tutti uguali_!

Una persona molto religiosa,è veramente innamorato della lirica e dell'opera!Non l'avrebbe mai usata per denaro!E poi che dire un artista fantastico!

[babel1973]

@liEder89 Ciao vorrei sapere come contattare il Maestro Giacomini. Mi piacerebbe farmi ascoltare, se possibile.

Ti ringrazio anticipamente.

[mufiteam]

@liEder89 well....i stand sometimes next to Kaufmann and although Giacomini is simply the One for me, Jonas is maybe "most near" to him from current tenors. But that is thing of personal taste or more development than taste. But i would be happy to experience live someone as good as Giacomini, blessed who saw him :o)

[einherzundeineseele]

Er ist wirklich ein Phänomen mit 70 Jahren noch im Besitze einer solchen Stimme zu sein. Übrigens habe ich nie verstehen können, dass ihm gegenüber anderen Tenören die von der Publicity getragen wurden, nie die die Popularität zugestanden wurde, die er verdient hätte. Für mich die größte dramtische Stimme des Jahrhunderts

[EdmundStAustell]

Er ist ein sehr ernsthafter Künstler, und er hat kein Interesse an "Show-Business." Für ihn ist großartige Musik etwas Geistiges, und das Theater ist wie ein heiliger Tempel. Er ist das Gegenteil von einigen Sängern, die nur an sich selbst interessiert sind.

[EdmundStAustell]

Ich stimme absolut mit Ihnen! Er hat eine wunderbare Stimme und ist ein ausgezeichneter Musiker. Er ist, was die Spanier "un hombre serio y formal", nennen; das heißt "eine ernsthafte und formale Person." Dies kann ein Problem in den Vereinigten Staaten sein, die leider mit Showbusiness besessen ist. Placido Domingo, wer was er redet kennt, nannte ihn den größten dramatischen Tenor des zwanzigsten Jahrhunderts. Er hat Recht. Vielen Dank für Ihren Kommentar.

[younglemeshevist]

Brilliant! Very expressive singing. Stanislavsky would have said "Верю!" about this performance.

[EdmundStAustell]

Yes, it would have been very believable for Stanislavsky...I think that's why he reminds me of Chaliapin a bit. Giacomini was a formidable actor and musician. He considered the theater as something like a holy temple.

[LordMgls]

Who is the conductor and when, please? Studio recording, I presume?

Thanks a lot for posting :-)

[EdmundStAustell]

Recorded in 1996. Symphonia Perusina, conducted by Guido Maria Guida.

[Bivolari]

Such a dark sound. He travels his own road. Beautifully sung.

[EdmundStAustell]

Yes, Giacomini is sui generis, no doubt about it. He can sound like Leonard Warren singing high notes sometimes:) Placido Domingo said he was the greatest dramatic tenor of the 20th century, but that kind of thinking stirs unnecessary arguments. Domingo is great, and so is Del Monaco. None of it is necessary. Any singer whose name is well known deserves praise for his or her accomplishment. Period, imho.

[LordMgls]

Exactly. It confers to this the statute of very probable best rendition. 20/20

I am curious about how Kauffmann will do this years later. I believe him to be Giacomini's modern correspondent.

[aaronsande]

@LordMgls That's crazy talk! Kaufmann isn't even a dramatic tenor. He's a lyric who overdarkens with the root of the tongue. And his small voice requires amplification frequently, the effects of which you can hear if you know what to listen for.

Giacomini needed no amplification.

So by Edmund's rule above, Kaufmann deserves praise for his accomplishment. So I praise him for getting such recognition in this strange opera world of today. But that's all.

Giacomini was marvelous.

[LordMgls]

Thanks for nice info. :-) I didn't know that.

About that strange modern opera world, these are my ideas

. Voices keep evoluting through times. Aoprani get more full sound (still considering unfaithful old recordings) and tenors more 'fragile', let's say :-P

. Good Opera is modern and completely actual music. Therefore, it mustn't be ecstactic. Keep adapting the voices to old modern repertoire. Thank Domingo for that.

I've been having a lovely discussion of this with VinylToVideo.

Cheers!

[aaronsande]

@LordMgls My voice is anything but fragile ;P although I'm not fully trained yet, and at 34 my chances of "making it" are tiny. Especially in this strange modern opera world.

I don't quite know what you mean in your second point (send me a message, maybe?)

Wish I could discuss with V2V but I made the tiniest criticism of Tucker on one video (with praises on others) and that was that. =/

But I'd be happy to discuss this with you! =D

There are good teachers training the old way, btw.

[LordMgls]

Let's go on by message.