The people in this documentary are quite breathless in their worship of this sword type, and many of their facts are wrong, but it's still a wonderful documentary and I love watching it :D. Thanks for sharing all this mate :D
So basically the Japanese did what the Celts and Spanish were doing in about 500 bc, something they called "pattern-welding"? Taking iron and steel and mixing the two to form the core of the blade was around LONG before the Japanese. Instead of a big furnace, they made long rods of each and twisted them together instead of wasting their time folding it. Pattern welded blades are vastly more beautiful than a katana (look them up and you'll agree).
@demomanchaos it all comes down to opinion, and if ur are a Celts, Spanish or Japanese. but it seems like Japanese blade are the most sought after swords in the world.
@ilikesuzuki Because they are far more commonly highlighted in media. If it isn't a medieval/ancient setting and someone has a sword, it is practically always a katana (video games and movies do this). In those shows, it cuts through everything with ease like a lightsaber. Then there are things like this that over hype the samurai.
@demomanchaos well then why are you watching this video anyways, all i have to say is if you like swords it doesn't matter who made it, it all comes down to if you can weld it.
@salemhodson sorry to say bro but the samurai sword that your grandpa took didnt go through traditional making katana .. it was a product of mass production during WW2.. but even though, it was use during world war and that makes it valuable ^_^
@crackerjack55 This is my band's channel. Our former drummer was an ass who would argue with you about anything. He could hold an argument for four hours, telling you the sky is purple. Any words posted on this video are his thoughts and do not reflect the views of the band.
to the people who are wondering where to get a "real" katana: there's not a lot of chance for people who aren't Japanese to get a handmade katana like this, and it's not a question of price. These swords should be reserved for people who know how to wield them and who would honor them in the way the Samurai did. Not for the people who would just display them in their houses as conversation starters.
@PebBleishRock japan doesn't export any of it's swords, but you can get one that is non-hand made and can get either kind from smiths in china and the u.s. they run $4000 upwards for REAL ones.
Sadly, nowadays a Katana is useless. Go for a martial art, it has more health benefits too. And i'm not talking about losing fingers while sheathing the sword...
yeah its sad that most people in America rather watch MTV or BET than C-SPAN or some other political show.....even better i bet more people vote for american idol than their politicians
killforhill123: I hope it is air tight where it is, left for that long it has probably rusted. If I were you I would check it. And please, research how to handle/care for it before you touch it!
i was looking up sushi knives before for colonary arts. i was told to look in japan. i got onto a website and a custom knife would be made for 10-15 grand.. i could only imagine how much a sword would be, i heard if their old and rare and have seen battle they can go for like 100's of thousands
It varies. There are several sword conventions in the US where you can buy and sell katanas, wakizashis, tsubas, etc. My cousin has been going to them for years and he's kindof become a dealer as a hobbiest. They're fun to go to, but I'd recommend doing a lot of research before you buy something, there's plenty of fakes/replicas around and if you don't know what you're getting you can get taken for a ride.
i have a real katana at home... it's 300 years old, my grand farther buy'd it for 25000$ and i have it now in a glass box in it's case, i have only seen it one time in my life, and i have got it for 10 years, i got it when he died when i was 5 years old, and he's last wish was that im the only one that will hold it in my hands.
@killforhill123 I have two as well. High quality, and they didn't cost 25,000, and it has a light warranty if it needs to be sharpened. It's so high quality the person who made it is considered one of the best in Japan. I have them in a shadow box as well. But they're crazy sharp.
@killforhill123 You sound like somebody from that shit of a country called USA. probably is a fake, if your grandpa was at war and got this sword from a Japanese soldier, surely is a fake, they made thousands of katanas for the army, NOT in the traditional way, but must on the Chinese way, or like they say PURE SHIT
@killforhill123 do you know where your grandfather got it? I am looking for a katana for an heirloom for my family. I could travel to japan but i don't know where?
@luuk341 good luck ^^ i love it wen i here bout someone whos doin training like tht ^^ means im not the only one haha (im training with smaller weapons like sais and kunais tho :L)
@killforhill123 : only thing i cans ay is you are lucky! But how do you recognice a real japanese sword? its easy, its cannot be bought, it only can be earned or had as a gift. so, you hav been screwd!
Technically the pricetag is just for richbitches to brag about, it's not the price that matters, it's the quality and the blacksmiths capability. For instance, let's say Mister X has a Shinsakuto that cost 40 big ones, you got one for 10, and the blacksmith is known for quality. That's definetly plus.
But yeah, there is a limit for 24 shinsakuto swords per year. (Shinsakuto means a traditionally forged tamahagane blade )
Everything's down to luck,, you can pay gigantic prices, you can find an antique nihonto bladecore for surprisingly cheap, and then get custom tsuka and saya for it.
wtf! you used the katana sword for a bread?? knife bread??? man!! you dont know how to treasure a katana blade! if there were only samurai, they will cut your head off!
@aguyngaw hey now they wont do that. they only cut your head off if they have a shred of respect for the man. they'll probably make him commit seppuku and let him bleed to death
@aguyngaw who cares, its just a sword. a piece of metal
i would want one for slicing bacon :D that would be so badass. and i would get mad respect from my drinking buddies. and if a samurai comes to cut my head off ill just draw a gun lol. good luck jappie!
@MuayThaiViking yeah its a piece of metal. just like the mona lisa is a piece of cloth, and the vatican is a bunch of cut up stones with paint. Katanas have a legacy. and the technique uset to make them is just as much an art as wielding them.
@MuayThaiViking you try saying that to a samurai. before you can raise that gun your head is gone. plus bullets wont pierce their armor. i would know. i tested my grandfathers old beaten up armor. only dented the first layer and i was using a Barret M468 assault rifle.
@RinionFilms ill just raise the gun before he gets close to me. dead jap!
also, the armor used by samurais sucked. it was very light though for more mobility. the japanese didnt have the same amount of metal to create full plate mails like the europeans. and even the heaviest european platemails were becomming ineffective around the 19th century. imagine what a 21th century rifle would do =)
@MuayThaiViking The Barret M468 is an assault rifle that is only 4 years old. ive shot through a car door through a steel plate and then through a cement block with one bullet. the armor stopped the bullet no problem. the samurai did not use a lot of metal in the armor but they used higher quality metal than the European variety. also the quick draw technique would allow them to cross the distance between you and cut you down in one motion.
@RinionFilms if i stand 10 feet away then i dont care how many jappie moves he knows, hes gonna get shot into pieces =)
and there is a reason why soldiers are not equipped with platearmor and swords anymore. its because anyone with a gun would make them worthless. history has proven that, so there is really no argument.
if a samurai with his silly sword and armor can defeat people with guns, then why arent their soldiers equipped that way? maybe u are just angry cause i mock ur holy samurais
@MuayThaiViking the flack jacket was based off of the samurai body armor. And US Marines train with swords. the armor has evolved. Put a samurai in modern armor. bullets will not phase him. Also the sword was not their only weapon. if you are 10 feet away they will lunge with their Naginata. if you are more than 10 feet you get shot by the Yumi Bow. closer than 10-5 feet means death by Katana. closer than 5 mean Wakazashi. The Samurai have weapons for any range. and bullets fail on the armor.
@RinionFilms hahaha man you can talk. again, there is a reason why soldiers are not equipped with swords or platemail anymore. if became worthless once gunpowder weapons became powerful enough. history has proven that, theres nothing u can say to change it
and why do you talk about modern bulletproof armor? samurais did not have bulletproof armor. their armor wasnt nearly as strong as a european platemail. and even the european knights dissapeared because of gunpowder
@RinionFilms Watch "Last of the Samurai, they didn't stand a chance against rallys of troops. They fell the the ground as they tried to charge the line. They never made it. True Store.
Completely incorrect. The Samurai did in fact use a lot of metal in their armor, and it was not of a "higher quality metal" than contemporary European armor.
First layer? That statement makes me think you actually don't know much about Japanese armor. Contrary to the unfounded, popular belief, Samurai armor did not utilize "layers". They utilized squares of material, typically steel or iron, sewn together and supplemented by leather and covered in lacquer. Could you explain, if Samurai body armor was immune to bullets, why the gun was so effective in Japanese warfare during the Sengoku Jidai, ultimately rendering the Samurai redundant?
For example, the elite Takeda Samurai were completely wiped out by arquebus wielding Ashigaru under Oda Nobunaga at the battle of Nagashino. The Arquebusiers under Nobunaga gunned down the Takeda cavalry in quite a humiliating fashion. Japanese guns of this point were much, much weaker than most modern guns.
To get a sword like this... look to spend almost if not more than $100,000 U.S. dollars. I did read you can't even take them out of Japan, as they are considered national treasure. Pretty cool if that info is real. Anyone know?
No practical use? Many years ago, my at-the-time gf got me a katana for my bday (for some reason), and it makes the most amazing bread knife ever. I take much comfort in the knowledge that my toast died a quick and honorable death.
He certainly could, but then he'd be just as narrow minded as yourself. Religion often gets the bad wrap for the ill-doings of government. Look how hung up you are on your hate for paradigms that you can't fully understand. Nobody said anything about religion. I could list a thousand functional uses for religion. Naturally, though, you'd come back at me with sociological problems that are, in reality, the result of the bad in peoples' hearts and have little to do with philosophy or dogma.
what, you think they actually pan for sand themselves? in THOSE amounts? no, I'm sure you can order iron sand. yes, it might be expensive in those amounts, but not nearly as expensive as all the other equipment you need.
The reason for this process is because there are so much impurities in the sand like ore they use as the basis for Tamahagane. Basically this process makes a useable steel out of something that is more suited to making pots or tea kettles. The katana is a nice weapon, fun to study and fantasize about to a point. The real problem with it is the legend and hype really overshadow the real performance of japanese steel. Google Howard Clark for some real near magical properties of a katana.
The real secret for making the so called WATERED STELL is to SLOWLY combine the iron with carbon at medium temperature otherwise, i you fuse it at too high temperatures the steel will become brittle!!!
The slow fusion of the components is wath gives the steel that quality of swirly shapes - watered steel!!!!
It make the steel much more harder in comparison to the orinary steel
A good visual avatar for the folding process is taking a piece of bubble gum,chew it, and then begin to fold you can see the folds, do this again and again until your satisfied.
And the company that made this video accepts religious beliefs as a cause of a rational device. They take themselves as rational and value the object, and imply that its religious makers should remain unrational
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EntertainmenIsGood is correct.
Sport is not ancient combat and vice versa.
Sport fencing is just sport. And for those who does over exaggerate about this that , weak strong , well shut the fuck up.
Who died and made you the damn expert.
Want a perfect war , use a nuclear bomb and that's it. No fighting no shooting no imitation sword amateurs shooting their bloody mouth about how swords are ineffective.
Most of the time wars are conducted for some sort of gain. Nuclear wars are a sure way to ensure net destruction. There are no rewards to reap. Cant do much with land with its radioactive ;)
Samurai were undefeated. They had perfect technique in the manufacture of swords and excellent technique in warfare. However, when the enemy began to use guns against them were more at risk and vulnerable. And, of course, crusades are worse than the Samurai.
Well, the 'undefeated' portion is primarily due to their isolation and the fact that they had the weather on their side twice in a row. With this logic, we could argue that "English Knights" were undefeated and hence 'perfect'. It really doesn't make them 'perfect' in technique. As well, their sword is not perfect either and easily matched by other sword designs. I'd suggest reading into the first Mongolian Invasion and the Imjin War as a way to think about the 'undefeated' portion as well.
all yu guys forget its allmost impossibel to have an undafeted army yu have to allow for humna error they said the spartans were undefeated human error led to there defeat countless times the walls of try fell by human error
Well, actually I don't forget that. I totally accept it. There is no such thing as a 'perfect' army, weapon, or style. It is impossible to create something without flaws.
I was about to correct you on the point of the katana being easy to break, but then I stopped myself when I noticed you specified the /point/ being easy to break. My apologies for even thinking about correcting you, that's actually one of the things they found the most during the first Mongol Invasion, that the tips of their swords were breaking against the Mongolian armor.
i dont know if they go into it on this doco but the point on the swords was slightly weaker then the blade itself thats why the samurai prefered to use the slash attacks rather then stabs witch if yu ask me they would fall to the modern fencing styel as they wouldent be abel to move parry or attack as the speed of the sabers
And would you happen to know why the tip of the blade is weaker than the rest of the weapon?
And if your referring to the sport fencing where they use those light weight foils you must have a death wish if you think you could have won in a fight back in the day with that thing.
Your over exaggeration of the weaknesses is egual to that of the stupidity of people buying a cheap imitaion sword and running around like they are immortal because they think they can dodge bullets.
Dude you know those epee and sabers they use are not real weapons, and bend on impact right?
Real rapiers weigh 3lbs and so do most other swords, they generally stay within the 2lb to 4lb weight range. 4lb being pretty heavy. It may not sound like much but that little amount of weight along with where the weight is centered, effect the balance of the weapon.
Samurai trained for speed and efficiency too, most fights never lasted more than a few seconds.
Now I wouldn't say that either, with all the advantages there come flaws, and those flaws must be recognized, or else you'll ruin a beautiful instrument of death that cost up to as much as a high end sports car.
Well now that you say it that way I guess I have to aggree with you, but one cannot say that you can do anything you want with it.
I guess the only flaw I could say there is in the design of a well made katana is that it isn't indestructable, there are ways people can break them, especially if they are stupid and careless, and have never weilded a sword before in there life, or any weapon for that matter.
So for what it's purpose it is indeed the perfect weapon.
In aspects of use as a weapon yes. But only if it is made with Tamahagane steel, but even that's not what makes it flawless its the blend of hard and soft metals in the uagane and shingane "Outer and inner core"
it doesn't have to made out of tamahagane steel, that is just the traditional steel preferred by these men who carry on the ancient art of forging the japanese sword.
Anything else is just a weapon or a wallhanger.
Till I'm rich enough to buy one from the Yoshindo family, i'll stick to the sturdy cheaper but still authenticly handmade swords.
If its not made with Tamahagane you wont be able to use it to its full potential because it is been proven to be one of if not the most reliable steel for swords in the world.
Sword that is known in U.S as katana is called "Japanese sword(日本刀)" in Japan.
In Japan, "katana(刀)" mean just sword.
alumite1 4 hours ago
this makes me proud to be japanese
ShaneDwayne1 2 weeks ago
so, the paper they put to prevent oxidation...how do they remove it?
obviousoblivious94 1 month ago
@obviousoblivious94 realy? your skin that? it gets burned off
death0breeder 1 month ago
The people in this documentary are quite breathless in their worship of this sword type, and many of their facts are wrong, but it's still a wonderful documentary and I love watching it :D. Thanks for sharing all this mate :D
quicktooth1 2 months ago
now i know why Katana is so expensive.
the worker need a hard work, high concentrate, and a lot of time to make a high quality sword
auvar100 2 months ago
So basically the Japanese did what the Celts and Spanish were doing in about 500 bc, something they called "pattern-welding"? Taking iron and steel and mixing the two to form the core of the blade was around LONG before the Japanese. Instead of a big furnace, they made long rods of each and twisted them together instead of wasting their time folding it. Pattern welded blades are vastly more beautiful than a katana (look them up and you'll agree).
demomanchaos 4 months ago
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@demomanchaos Im pretty sure its not a matter of how good it looks.
SmurfettesAWhore 2 months ago
@demomanchaos it all comes down to opinion, and if ur are a Celts, Spanish or Japanese. but it seems like Japanese blade are the most sought after swords in the world.
ilikesuzuki 2 months ago
@ilikesuzuki Because they are far more commonly highlighted in media. If it isn't a medieval/ancient setting and someone has a sword, it is practically always a katana (video games and movies do this). In those shows, it cuts through everything with ease like a lightsaber. Then there are things like this that over hype the samurai.
demomanchaos 2 months ago
@demomanchaos well then why are you watching this video anyways, all i have to say is if you like swords it doesn't matter who made it, it all comes down to if you can weld it.
ilikesuzuki 2 months ago
lol the sworsmiths wear flip flops and socks
SuperWestie100 4 months ago
@salemhodson sorry to say bro but the samurai sword that your grandpa took didnt go through traditional making katana .. it was a product of mass production during WW2.. but even though, it was use during world war and that makes it valuable ^_^
aguyngaw 4 months ago
ENOUGH WITH THE HISTORICAL MOVIES .. SHOW US HOW ITS MADE!!
gunmantol 5 months ago
Lol I hope RinionFilms was trolling
crackerjack55 6 months ago
@crackerjack55 This is my band's channel. Our former drummer was an ass who would argue with you about anything. He could hold an argument for four hours, telling you the sky is purple. Any words posted on this video are his thoughts and do not reflect the views of the band.
RinionFilms 6 months ago
I bet you lose like 50 lbs after sweating your ass off in there...
Southpark124 8 months ago
to the people who are wondering where to get a "real" katana: there's not a lot of chance for people who aren't Japanese to get a handmade katana like this, and it's not a question of price. These swords should be reserved for people who know how to wield them and who would honor them in the way the Samurai did. Not for the people who would just display them in their houses as conversation starters.
klax53 10 months ago 23
@klax53 people who want the display ones, should just get the piece of shit chinese made ones
brianthao102 1 month ago
@klax53 wow!
wewew2012 1 month ago
i want one
tllover2245 10 months ago
where would i have to go to get one?
HGClark 11 months ago
damn i want one
earthboundPSI 11 months ago
Why? You wouldnt do anything, and you would be too scared to carry it, unless you were a yankee boy.
Pawnbroker00 11 months ago
@Pawnbroker00 first of all , i would never be too scared to carry it , secondly , i want it for other purposes.
earthboundPSI 11 months ago
how much would it cost to get a hand made katana from a real katana swords smith
PebBleishRock 1 year ago
@PebBleishRock 20.000$ - 50.000$. You will be able to get real katana swords from the best blacksmith in Japan.
Illendyourfamily 1 year ago
@PebBleishRock japan doesn't export any of it's swords, but you can get one that is non-hand made and can get either kind from smiths in china and the u.s. they run $4000 upwards for REAL ones.
bobjoemagee 11 months ago
Sadly, nowadays a Katana is useless. Go for a martial art, it has more health benefits too. And i'm not talking about losing fingers while sheathing the sword...
lmlotallica 1 year ago
I'll brb
ShadowSword32 1 year ago
Great Video
FunnyJapanesePranks 1 year ago
i could score a million chicks with that
srinivaskari 1 year ago
Below the National Geographic channel logo there says HD... wtf the katana swords look like shit with quality like this!
LegendaryDGMNfan 1 year ago
The way they use that sword is so elegant, looks almost harmless. Yet is so violent... Poetry in motion comes to mind
tvobssesed 1 year ago
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Why would you want to COPY Japanese people's stuff?
We are American...We do not COPY stuff.....We arn't Chinese as well.
especially from Japanese...It's Shame.
maxinpains 1 year ago
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Why would you want to COPY Japanese people's stuff?
We are American...We do not COPY stuff.....We arn't Chinese as well.
especially from Japanese...It's Shame.
maxinpains 1 year ago
When it comes to katana's I'd take one over a Diamond mine. XD
TRXProductionsX 1 year ago
omg there not wearing eye protection!
Deadscum22 1 year ago
This is dangerous work.
kikook222 1 year ago
If your katana has been in a box for 10 years without proper care, you might want to take it out and prep it...
Tindar 1 year ago
yeah its sad that most people in America rather watch MTV or BET than C-SPAN or some other political show.....even better i bet more people vote for american idol than their politicians
jeffwitkowski555 1 year ago
couldnt they make more furnaces and teach others to work them
runeman220 1 year ago
@runeman220 of course. but kids nowadays sit on sofas and play games.
fusionstar916 1 year ago
Another BBC production. Why can't they do interesting shows like this in America?
No, we have to listen to non-stop bs about Anna Nicole Smith or Britney Spears.
citizenfitz 1 year ago
@citizenfitz Maybe turn the channel away from MTV, retarded faggot?
sharpnova2 1 year ago
@sharpnova2 I never watch MTV. Ask yo mama.
citizenfitz 1 year ago
I wonder if they could make me a gunblade...
RadiantSilverlighter 1 year ago
Man, the blacksmith himself is literally steaming after working in the furnace..
cjec21 2 years ago 50
LOL! i noticed that as well!
icecrimson 1 year ago
he is up for 3 days after all XD
pearlfigther 1 year ago
@cjec21
I've done that once and I was just making sandshoes with hot Sand and PVC pipe.... Don't ask.
VaSoapman 1 year ago
killforhill123: I hope it is air tight where it is, left for that long it has probably rusted. If I were you I would check it. And please, research how to handle/care for it before you touch it!
1revhead 2 years ago
i was looking up sushi knives before for colonary arts. i was told to look in japan. i got onto a website and a custom knife would be made for 10-15 grand.. i could only imagine how much a sword would be, i heard if their old and rare and have seen battle they can go for like 100's of thousands
hawkdlb06 2 years ago
It varies. There are several sword conventions in the US where you can buy and sell katanas, wakizashis, tsubas, etc. My cousin has been going to them for years and he's kindof become a dealer as a hobbiest. They're fun to go to, but I'd recommend doing a lot of research before you buy something, there's plenty of fakes/replicas around and if you don't know what you're getting you can get taken for a ride.
hotdutchmatty 1 year ago
katana swords are rare.
19batista96 2 years ago
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i have a real katana at home... it's 300 years old, my grand farther buy'd it for 25000$ and i have it now in a glass box in it's case, i have only seen it one time in my life, and i have got it for 10 years, i got it when he died when i was 5 years old, and he's last wish was that im the only one that will hold it in my hands.
killforhill123 2 years ago 56
if thats tru, you are a very luck man, im not saying it isnt but i cant be 100% sure
homerdrivesfast 2 years ago 2
@killforhill123 Treasure it always
OMGOMGIWANT 2 years ago
Pretty Fucking Epic, i would have to say. Thumbs up
borbor122 2 years ago 3
@killforhill123 As opposed to someone else holding it in your hands?
sharpnova2 1 year ago
@sharpnova2 Yep me dad
killforhill123 1 year ago
@killforhill123 wow
gregthebub 1 year ago
@killforhill123 that is awesome I wish my ancestors or grandparents gave me something like that...
chivisg007 1 year ago
@killforhill123 I would check it now and then to make sure it hasn't rusted
8497289 1 year ago
@killforhill123
lucky bastard. If I ever have the money and time, I'd commission the construction of my own. Hands down, in an instant, no questions asked.
cheesytrojan 1 year ago
@cheesytrojan to what? cut your steak? LMFAO.
GuitarDevan 1 year ago
@GuitarDevan
you read my mind. that would be the most badass way to eat dinner ever.
cheesytrojan 1 year ago
@killforhill123 any chance I can see a picture of it?
sagequan 1 year ago
@killforhill123 I have two as well. High quality, and they didn't cost 25,000, and it has a light warranty if it needs to be sharpened. It's so high quality the person who made it is considered one of the best in Japan. I have them in a shadow box as well. But they're crazy sharp.
kikook222 1 year ago
@killforhill123
Cool! Thats how real katanas should be treated!
TheSandokan86 1 year ago
@killforhill123 You sound like somebody from that shit of a country called USA. probably is a fake, if your grandpa was at war and got this sword from a Japanese soldier, surely is a fake, they made thousands of katanas for the army, NOT in the traditional way, but must on the Chinese way, or like they say PURE SHIT
piontro 1 year ago
@piontro If it is what you want to belive.. then you are welcome, but i got it checked, and it is real.
here 1 month ago, i just tested it, on a pig's head, and it sliced truough it like is was a knife in hot butter.
killforhill123 1 year ago
@killforhill123 you mean a hot knife in butter?
if it was hot butter then it would have been melted before so it wouldnt cut though it lol
AppleAssassin 1 year ago
easy there dude
lordbill22 1 year ago
@killforhill123 "and he's last wish was that im the only one that will hold it in my hands"
How the hell would another person be able to hold it with your hands?? Grammar/spell check please.
TempestDust 1 year ago
@TempestDust He ment that i am the only one that woud toutch it, but my dad is holding it in my hands due to the weapon law
killforhill123 1 year ago
@killforhill123 Next time you go home i'm gonna be under your bed... I'm so frekin' JEALOUS!
LegendaryDGMNfan 1 year ago
How about you check that the rice oil of the blade has not gone out.
Those real katanas need to stay in rice oil not to rust.
acriked 1 year ago
@killforhill123 do you know where your grandfather got it? I am looking for a katana for an heirloom for my family. I could travel to japan but i don't know where?
Theninjalemon 1 year ago
@killforhill123 wow once i graduate my training witch is my sport
my master and i will go to a smith and make my own personal katana
one day i will graduate :D
luuk341 1 year ago
@luuk341 good luck ^^ i love it wen i here bout someone whos doin training like tht ^^ means im not the only one haha (im training with smaller weapons like sais and kunais tho :L)
MrDirtyness 1 year ago
@killforhill123 lmfao this guy is full of shit
ZeroToleranceLT 1 year ago 14
@killforhill123 that cool dude.
ernestas111 1 year ago
@killforhill123 you shouldn't have posted that here, someone might steal it. . .
otherwisse, learn how to use it. Your father would be glad/
michjanne90 1 year ago
@killforhill123 YOU ARE LUCK AND BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH ULTIMATE WEAPON WITH YOU.
nuclearmc 1 year ago
@killforhill123 Pics or it didn't happen.
Yosh997 1 year ago
Respect!!! There is no money which can bay something like that!!! :)))
ganebor1979 1 year ago
@killforhill123 : only thing i cans ay is you are lucky! But how do you recognice a real japanese sword? its easy, its cannot be bought, it only can be earned or had as a gift. so, you hav been screwd!
poppamies907 1 year ago
@poppamies907 then what happens if it's master dies?
laurenssius 1 year ago
@killforhill123 You telling the truth?
punishr36 1 year ago
@killforhill123 Kool, just make sure you dont sell it on ebay. . .
bigdima3 1 year ago
@killforhill123 should be a great movie. Nevertheless false x)
laurenssius 1 year ago
@killforhill123 Sick!!!!!!
Wayofthefighter 1 year ago
how much would a good one be? like 5-10$ thousand?
haru884 2 years ago
15-50. Depending on design and grade steel.
DeeArrVoorhees 2 years ago
thats just the cost of the raw metal to make one now adays they go for 80thousan
homerdrivesfast 2 years ago
Technically the pricetag is just for richbitches to brag about, it's not the price that matters, it's the quality and the blacksmiths capability. For instance, let's say Mister X has a Shinsakuto that cost 40 big ones, you got one for 10, and the blacksmith is known for quality. That's definetly plus.
But yeah, there is a limit for 24 shinsakuto swords per year. (Shinsakuto means a traditionally forged tamahagane blade )
Pakkaslordi 2 years ago 2
Everything's down to luck,, you can pay gigantic prices, you can find an antique nihonto bladecore for surprisingly cheap, and then get custom tsuka and saya for it.
Pakkaslordi 2 years ago
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Can I buy a real one from WallMart? /s
virtuous8 2 years ago
A cheap one costs 10000 dollars. A real japanese one. A cheap Chinese made folded steel one you can get for about 1000 dollars
81mrsmitty 2 years ago 3
Shehasa my money.
Lvduggo69 2 years ago
there was a story that some of the best swords were taken as spoils of war in ww2 and the gi s don t know there true worth
pault1964 2 years ago 2
how much do one of the swords mand by these masters cost?
firefox8192 2 years ago
thousands, they take over 3 months to create a single sword
stoshy445 2 years ago 2
at least $1000 i think
TheAirsoftbeast3 2 years ago
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PRIMEx420
wtf! you used the katana sword for a bread?? knife bread??? man!! you dont know how to treasure a katana blade! if there were only samurai, they will cut your head off!
aguyngaw 2 years ago 21
@aguyngaw hey now they wont do that. they only cut your head off if they have a shred of respect for the man. they'll probably make him commit seppuku and let him bleed to death
megafaka 1 year ago
@aguyngaw who cares, its just a sword. a piece of metal
i would want one for slicing bacon :D that would be so badass. and i would get mad respect from my drinking buddies. and if a samurai comes to cut my head off ill just draw a gun lol. good luck jappie!
MuayThaiViking 8 months ago
@MuayThaiViking yeah its a piece of metal. just like the mona lisa is a piece of cloth, and the vatican is a bunch of cut up stones with paint. Katanas have a legacy. and the technique uset to make them is just as much an art as wielding them.
Dannybroadsword1 8 months ago
@MuayThaiViking you try saying that to a samurai. before you can raise that gun your head is gone. plus bullets wont pierce their armor. i would know. i tested my grandfathers old beaten up armor. only dented the first layer and i was using a Barret M468 assault rifle.
RinionFilms 8 months ago
@RinionFilms ill just raise the gun before he gets close to me. dead jap!
also, the armor used by samurais sucked. it was very light though for more mobility. the japanese didnt have the same amount of metal to create full plate mails like the europeans. and even the heaviest european platemails were becomming ineffective around the 19th century. imagine what a 21th century rifle would do =)
go watch some ninja movies u samurai loverboy!
MuayThaiViking 8 months ago
@MuayThaiViking The Barret M468 is an assault rifle that is only 4 years old. ive shot through a car door through a steel plate and then through a cement block with one bullet. the armor stopped the bullet no problem. the samurai did not use a lot of metal in the armor but they used higher quality metal than the European variety. also the quick draw technique would allow them to cross the distance between you and cut you down in one motion.
RinionFilms 8 months ago
@RinionFilms if i stand 10 feet away then i dont care how many jappie moves he knows, hes gonna get shot into pieces =)
and there is a reason why soldiers are not equipped with platearmor and swords anymore. its because anyone with a gun would make them worthless. history has proven that, so there is really no argument.
if a samurai with his silly sword and armor can defeat people with guns, then why arent their soldiers equipped that way? maybe u are just angry cause i mock ur holy samurais
MuayThaiViking 8 months ago
@MuayThaiViking the flack jacket was based off of the samurai body armor. And US Marines train with swords. the armor has evolved. Put a samurai in modern armor. bullets will not phase him. Also the sword was not their only weapon. if you are 10 feet away they will lunge with their Naginata. if you are more than 10 feet you get shot by the Yumi Bow. closer than 10-5 feet means death by Katana. closer than 5 mean Wakazashi. The Samurai have weapons for any range. and bullets fail on the armor.
RinionFilms 8 months ago
@RinionFilms hahaha man you can talk. again, there is a reason why soldiers are not equipped with swords or platemail anymore. if became worthless once gunpowder weapons became powerful enough. history has proven that, theres nothing u can say to change it
and why do you talk about modern bulletproof armor? samurais did not have bulletproof armor. their armor wasnt nearly as strong as a european platemail. and even the european knights dissapeared because of gunpowder
MuayThaiViking 8 months ago
@RinionFilms
The modern flack jacket is /not/ based upon samurai body armor. There is literally no evidence to this point. Could you provide me some?
Caliburnis 7 months ago
@RinionFilms Watch "Last of the Samurai, they didn't stand a chance against rallys of troops. They fell the the ground as they tried to charge the line. They never made it. True Store.
kite781 6 months ago
@RinionFilms
Completely incorrect. The Samurai did in fact use a lot of metal in their armor, and it was not of a "higher quality metal" than contemporary European armor.
Caliburnis 7 months ago
@RinionFilms
First layer? That statement makes me think you actually don't know much about Japanese armor. Contrary to the unfounded, popular belief, Samurai armor did not utilize "layers". They utilized squares of material, typically steel or iron, sewn together and supplemented by leather and covered in lacquer. Could you explain, if Samurai body armor was immune to bullets, why the gun was so effective in Japanese warfare during the Sengoku Jidai, ultimately rendering the Samurai redundant?
Caliburnis 7 months ago
@RinionFilms
For example, the elite Takeda Samurai were completely wiped out by arquebus wielding Ashigaru under Oda Nobunaga at the battle of Nagashino. The Arquebusiers under Nobunaga gunned down the Takeda cavalry in quite a humiliating fashion. Japanese guns of this point were much, much weaker than most modern guns.
Caliburnis 7 months ago
A true katana made by these guys would probably run you a couple thousand us dollars.
DragonGun7916 2 years ago
To get a sword like this... look to spend almost if not more than $100,000 U.S. dollars. I did read you can't even take them out of Japan, as they are considered national treasure. Pretty cool if that info is real. Anyone know?
tahoe350 2 years ago 2
im not sure i wouldn't be surprised as i have seen my fair share of "katanas" doubt they would be true japanese quality though
stoshy445 2 years ago
That's a lot of work for something that no longer has any functional use. It's still cool though and there is a market for luxury items like this.
eurohim 2 years ago
No practical use? Many years ago, my at-the-time gf got me a katana for my bday (for some reason), and it makes the most amazing bread knife ever. I take much comfort in the knowledge that my toast died a quick and honorable death.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago 7
You could say the same thing about religion...
odderling 2 years ago
He certainly could, but then he'd be just as narrow minded as yourself. Religion often gets the bad wrap for the ill-doings of government. Look how hung up you are on your hate for paradigms that you can't fully understand. Nobody said anything about religion. I could list a thousand functional uses for religion. Naturally, though, you'd come back at me with sociological problems that are, in reality, the result of the bad in peoples' hearts and have little to do with philosophy or dogma.
GeetarAdam 2 years ago
how much is a freaking katana! as in one of these katanas
dynastyflygon 2 years ago
where can you get the iron sand?
kakashi1578 2 years ago
That sand comes from riverbeds in Japan. I don't really think you can buy it... it MIGHT be too expensive!
BigKwell 2 years ago
what, you think they actually pan for sand themselves? in THOSE amounts? no, I'm sure you can order iron sand. yes, it might be expensive in those amounts, but not nearly as expensive as all the other equipment you need.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
get a iron bar and grind it into sand
dynastyflygon 2 years ago
They mentioned it in the first part.
GeetarAdam 2 years ago
actually i meant like whee in the united states, or where online. but nevermind about it cause ive done some research and found a place it think.
kakashi1578 2 years ago
@kakashi1578 get a magnet.. and go to the beach. it will take you a while to get enough.. lmfao
fusionstar916 1 year ago
-"samurai katana swords", because "a katana" wouldn't suffice- i can almost see a motivational poster
lORDELO2 2 years ago 5
The reason for this process is because there are so much impurities in the sand like ore they use as the basis for Tamahagane. Basically this process makes a useable steel out of something that is more suited to making pots or tea kettles. The katana is a nice weapon, fun to study and fantasize about to a point. The real problem with it is the legend and hype really overshadow the real performance of japanese steel. Google Howard Clark for some real near magical properties of a katana.
pinworms70 2 years ago
The real secret for making the so called WATERED STELL is to SLOWLY combine the iron with carbon at medium temperature otherwise, i you fuse it at too high temperatures the steel will become brittle!!!
The slow fusion of the components is wath gives the steel that quality of swirly shapes - watered steel!!!!
It make the steel much more harder in comparison to the orinary steel
luarionte 2 years ago
A good visual avatar for the folding process is taking a piece of bubble gum,chew it, and then begin to fold you can see the folds, do this again and again until your satisfied.
Mack488 2 years ago
I would be so honored to practice under these men.
Younion 2 years ago 8
His family has been a swordsmith for 800 years??? o_O Now thats a legacy...
straightJO 2 years ago 15
And the company that made this video accepts religious beliefs as a cause of a rational device. They take themselves as rational and value the object, and imply that its religious makers should remain unrational
teemuruskeepaa 2 years ago
People played too many games and watched too many animes... But this is amazing - never knew making a katana would be so hardcore :o
theantikikyo 2 years ago
50000 guns!!!!!
c00lb0y10 2 years ago
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EntertainmenIsGood is correct.
Sport is not ancient combat and vice versa.
Sport fencing is just sport. And for those who does over exaggerate about this that , weak strong , well shut the fuck up.
Who died and made you the damn expert.
Want a perfect war , use a nuclear bomb and that's it. No fighting no shooting no imitation sword amateurs shooting their bloody mouth about how swords are ineffective.
sheesh..
MDIS 2 years ago
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its true. nuclear warfare has the least amount of man to man combat.
REA00002 2 years ago
Most of the time wars are conducted for some sort of gain. Nuclear wars are a sure way to ensure net destruction. There are no rewards to reap. Cant do much with land with its radioactive ;)
ShadowCPU 2 years ago
dam making sword is awesome but hard work
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gnkkop999 3 years ago
this is ART each piece is a piece of someone's spirit and soul... Lovely
As Cartman from south park said once to butters this is OWSOMO
sabrinavsginc 3 years ago 6
i bet the japanese fully understood the concepts of what they were doing, they just didnt call it what europeans called it...
yellowfellow 3 years ago 5
Samurai were undefeated. They had perfect technique in the manufacture of swords and excellent technique in warfare. However, when the enemy began to use guns against them were more at risk and vulnerable. And, of course, crusades are worse than the Samurai.
ampeg187 3 years ago
lol, u forget that mongols was invincible at that time when it comes to warfare
eejit4hire 3 years ago
Well, the 'undefeated' portion is primarily due to their isolation and the fact that they had the weather on their side twice in a row. With this logic, we could argue that "English Knights" were undefeated and hence 'perfect'. It really doesn't make them 'perfect' in technique. As well, their sword is not perfect either and easily matched by other sword designs. I'd suggest reading into the first Mongolian Invasion and the Imjin War as a way to think about the 'undefeated' portion as well.
Caliburnis 3 years ago
all yu guys forget its allmost impossibel to have an undafeted army yu have to allow for humna error they said the spartans were undefeated human error led to there defeat countless times the walls of try fell by human error
alldoom 3 years ago
Well, actually I don't forget that. I totally accept it. There is no such thing as a 'perfect' army, weapon, or style. It is impossible to create something without flaws.
Caliburnis 3 years ago
even the katana had flaws the point was easy to break to have the perfect army you would need like robots
alldoom 3 years ago
I was about to correct you on the point of the katana being easy to break, but then I stopped myself when I noticed you specified the /point/ being easy to break. My apologies for even thinking about correcting you, that's actually one of the things they found the most during the first Mongol Invasion, that the tips of their swords were breaking against the Mongolian armor.
Caliburnis 3 years ago
i dont know if they go into it on this doco but the point on the swords was slightly weaker then the blade itself thats why the samurai prefered to use the slash attacks rather then stabs witch if yu ask me they would fall to the modern fencing styel as they wouldent be abel to move parry or attack as the speed of the sabers
alldoom 3 years ago
And would you happen to know why the tip of the blade is weaker than the rest of the weapon?
And if your referring to the sport fencing where they use those light weight foils you must have a death wish if you think you could have won in a fight back in the day with that thing.
Your over exaggeration of the weaknesses is egual to that of the stupidity of people buying a cheap imitaion sword and running around like they are immortal because they think they can dodge bullets.
EntertainmentIsGood 3 years ago 2
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If you give a trained woman a very light sward, she will rip a samarai a new one.
Have you tried fighting for speed fist v fist or even in bed against a trained woman? by the time you land 1 blow she already puts 10 in.
spitfireXVIb 2 years ago
Dude you know those epee and sabers they use are not real weapons, and bend on impact right?
Real rapiers weigh 3lbs and so do most other swords, they generally stay within the 2lb to 4lb weight range. 4lb being pretty heavy. It may not sound like much but that little amount of weight along with where the weight is centered, effect the balance of the weapon.
Samurai trained for speed and efficiency too, most fights never lasted more than a few seconds.
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
um, true rapiers are 3lbs because they can only stab, not cut. only the tip is sharp
sabres and epee are around 10lbs, and are real weapons, mostly designed for cavalry to slash through infantry
kantana though, are designed for infantry to infantry, requireing a stronger heavier blade, similar to longswords from english knights
nightshade616 2 years ago
Do you know half of what your saying?
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
I don't think he does, no. The Katana is literally perfect in all aspects.
Mack488 2 years ago
Now I wouldn't say that either, with all the advantages there come flaws, and those flaws must be recognized, or else you'll ruin a beautiful instrument of death that cost up to as much as a high end sports car.
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
Then what do you think is a flaw in a Katana.
Mack488 2 years ago
Well now that you say it that way I guess I have to aggree with you, but one cannot say that you can do anything you want with it.
I guess the only flaw I could say there is in the design of a well made katana is that it isn't indestructable, there are ways people can break them, especially if they are stupid and careless, and have never weilded a sword before in there life, or any weapon for that matter.
So for what it's purpose it is indeed the perfect weapon.
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
In aspects of use as a weapon yes. But only if it is made with Tamahagane steel, but even that's not what makes it flawless its the blend of hard and soft metals in the uagane and shingane "Outer and inner core"
Mack488 2 years ago
it doesn't have to made out of tamahagane steel, that is just the traditional steel preferred by these men who carry on the ancient art of forging the japanese sword.
Anything else is just a weapon or a wallhanger.
Till I'm rich enough to buy one from the Yoshindo family, i'll stick to the sturdy cheaper but still authenticly handmade swords.
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
If its not made with Tamahagane you wont be able to use it to its full potential because it is been proven to be one of if not the most reliable steel for swords in the world.
Mack488 2 years ago
Would you post me a link to where you got this information?
We know tamahagane is indeed a very reliable mixture of elments for japanese sword making but is it good for any sword?
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
Not everything is on the internet, read Samurai code of the warrior. By Tommy Ito.
Mack488 2 years ago
something more universal perhaps?
EntertainmentIsGood 2 years ago
Most of my knowledge is from books, I seldom use the internet because of its content flexibility.
Mack488 2 years ago
I'm sorry I cant be off more help.
Mack488 2 years ago