The AVRO 504K was powered by a Le Rhone rotary engine. They ALWAYS wound like they're missing because that's how the pilot controls airspeed.
Rotary aircraft engines turn with the propeller, so there's no way to have a throttle. The pilot switches the engine on and off to slow down or speed up and if left on, the engine would probably overrev and seize up.
You can always tell a rotary engine by the sound.
It was likely something else that caused the crash.
0:40 engine quit. You could hear it misfiring at 0:35 BUT he keeps doing circles over airport thinking he will land it later regardless.
At 0:47 you can see it stalling in the left slow turn from about 200 agl.
Trees are not runways. They sound different.
blastforyou guy, a stalled crash is a LOSS OF CONTROL BY THE PILOT. If he had control, it would not stall, they glide instead. Call the FAA if don't believe it.
bravo! Sometimes in situations such as this pilots will try to" stretch" glide to make runway and stall and come in vertical this pilot maintained controlled flight until contact with ......
I once had to ditch my Jenny when the engine failed. I was not hurt but the prop was busted and I wrinkled one wing. The sad part of it was I had just sold the airplane the day before. That was back in 1993 so I had to knock off a bunch of money. As far as I know the guy who bought it has yet to fix it up and this is 2011. Oh well I glad everything turned out good for you.
Keep in mind that when the Avro 504K is flown at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, the pilots are dealing with a temperamental 110 H.P. Le Rhone rotary engine and they were known to quit unexpectedly. The aircraft did sustain a fair amount of damage to the wings. At this time, they probably have the entire aircraft in the shop for repair and in time they'll probably have it flying again in the future.
@alterman156 Yeah. It's the only down side of flying vintage/antique airplanes, but I'd rather see them in the air than in a museum any day! My Dad and I are taking a trip to Rhinebeck next summer. Was the pilot okay?
@jpatt1000 The pilot was uninjured. He bellied the aircraft and he has a lot of experience. I flew the Wright powered New Standard D-25 on October 3, 2010 with the pilot who crashed the AVRO 504K and he is a damn good pilot. The AVRO 504K is resting in a hanger with the fuselage on a dolly and the wings and tail assembly in racks. The fuselage survived largely unscathed. The wings had some substantial damage. The struts were broken. The wheels for the landing gear were basically undamaged.
Seems to me thats exactly what they are doing. LOL The moronic Board of Trustees running the Aerodrome ignored a couple of opportunities to buy adjacent land.
@RustyRagwing That runway is at least twice as long as it used to be. It was less than 2000' ft w/ trees at both ends and it's be extended to close to 4000'. He wasn't within gliding distance of the field, so the Aerodrome is supposed to purchase the entire town? That's the risk of flying. If the safety of the planes was an issue, they would fly overhead or better yet, never leave the ground. As they say "Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they were made for".
@zuzupetals1999 “He wasn't within gliding distance of the field, so the Aerodrome is supposed to purchase the entire town?”
No, just the land at the north end of the runway would have sufficed. LOL The pilot knew he was in trouble during takeoff and didn’t want to crash in front of the spectators. Please read FAA report # ERA10LA021 for details.
@RustyRagwing the FAA report states "He did not have sufficient runway in front of him for landing, so he turned to the right, away from the spectator line". Watch the video, he turned right to get some distance away from the runway before a quick base-final set up. A hard left turn over the field and it would have stalled. Unfortunately, you don't get to practice "engine out" landings in these planes. Blaming the Aerodrome for not buying more property is the ultimate in hindsight.
@zuzupetals1999 The Trustees knew well in advance of the sale and ignored it. The land went cheap and was at the north end of the runway. The land has since been cut up and sold by a developer whose site plan put houses in line with the runway! Pretty much cancels out any thought of expansion of the museum and might sooner or later end the shows. Would you not call that neglect and disregard for their responsibility to the Museum?
@RustyRagwing Well who are these "Trustees", what they like, why didn't they do the prudent thing when they had a chance? They had to know this would kill everything, did they have a conflict of interests?
And what the hell happened in this crash, what to the plane and the pilot, and where are the pictures of the crash?
@RustyRagwing So it was on take off that the engine started misfiring. So why did he do a 360 over the field with engine missing an did not keep going to base leg and final then land? You call that a good pilot? Yes, until they have an engine misfire and freeze. Anyone can fly normally. Is when things go bad when pilots are proved, others just drive it. With so many crashes outside the airport, NO WONDER THEY WANTED TO CLOSE IT. OBVIOUS. AND THEY DID.
at least the pilot was ok, that was the most important thing.
angryace13 2 months ago
The AVRO 504K was powered by a Le Rhone rotary engine. They ALWAYS wound like they're missing because that's how the pilot controls airspeed.
Rotary aircraft engines turn with the propeller, so there's no way to have a throttle. The pilot switches the engine on and off to slow down or speed up and if left on, the engine would probably overrev and seize up.
You can always tell a rotary engine by the sound.
It was likely something else that caused the crash.
arethusa99 3 months ago
0:40 engine quit. You could hear it misfiring at 0:35 BUT he keeps doing circles over airport thinking he will land it later regardless.
At 0:47 you can see it stalling in the left slow turn from about 200 agl.
Trees are not runways. They sound different.
blastforyou guy, a stalled crash is a LOSS OF CONTROL BY THE PILOT. If he had control, it would not stall, they glide instead. Call the FAA if don't believe it.
CFITOMAHAWK 3 months ago
He cut the engine too soon. He miss calculated the glide ratio. Was nice aircraft sorry to see it destroyed.
77wimmut 5 months ago
there are a fair few videos from this airfeild of aicraft crashing... has any body considerd wich craft?
acerfocus 6 months ago
bravo! Sometimes in situations such as this pilots will try to" stretch" glide to make runway and stall and come in vertical this pilot maintained controlled flight until contact with ......
blastforyou 6 months ago
i was here :)
SnakeMan10583 6 months ago
Good thing it was a slow flying plane, I guess.
CutthroatBill 7 months ago
i love how you just hear all of the screaching and crashing noises and you just go " uh oh"
flyingfan11 8 months ago
AW man... all that work and then...
louswire 11 months ago
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I once had to ditch my Jenny when the engine failed. I was not hurt but the prop was busted and I wrinkled one wing. The sad part of it was I had just sold the airplane the day before. That was back in 1993 so I had to knock off a bunch of money. As far as I know the guy who bought it has yet to fix it up and this is 2011. Oh well I glad everything turned out good for you.
kb8gjg 11 months ago
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kb8gjg 11 months ago
My fire compy has gone here for plan crashes
rhinebckfirefighter 1 year ago
Jeez, that crunch after it disappeared below the tree line sounded terrible
TonyAirlines 1 year ago
Keep in mind that when the Avro 504K is flown at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, the pilots are dealing with a temperamental 110 H.P. Le Rhone rotary engine and they were known to quit unexpectedly. The aircraft did sustain a fair amount of damage to the wings. At this time, they probably have the entire aircraft in the shop for repair and in time they'll probably have it flying again in the future.
alterman156 1 year ago
@alterman156 Yeah. It's the only down side of flying vintage/antique airplanes, but I'd rather see them in the air than in a museum any day! My Dad and I are taking a trip to Rhinebeck next summer. Was the pilot okay?
jpatt1000 1 year ago
@jpatt1000 The pilot was uninjured. He bellied the aircraft and he has a lot of experience. I flew the Wright powered New Standard D-25 on October 3, 2010 with the pilot who crashed the AVRO 504K and he is a damn good pilot. The AVRO 504K is resting in a hanger with the fuselage on a dolly and the wings and tail assembly in racks. The fuselage survived largely unscathed. The wings had some substantial damage. The struts were broken. The wheels for the landing gear were basically undamaged.
alterman156 1 year ago
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djs495 1 year ago
did that pilot die
verdemanthe1 2 years ago
No, thank God. He's a fantastic pilot. Walked away without a scratch.
DWJax21 2 years ago
Wow, that's amazing and skill he made it through uninjured. Such as shame for I'm sure the plane was severely damaged beyond reapir.
gmccord1970 1 year ago
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RustyRagwing 2 years ago
How about we chop down some of those trees and make it safer for the pilots?
katana4 2 years ago
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RustyRagwing 2 years ago
Seems to me thats exactly what they are doing. LOL The moronic Board of Trustees running the Aerodrome ignored a couple of opportunities to buy adjacent land.
RustyRagwing 2 years ago
@RustyRagwing That runway is at least twice as long as it used to be. It was less than 2000' ft w/ trees at both ends and it's be extended to close to 4000'. He wasn't within gliding distance of the field, so the Aerodrome is supposed to purchase the entire town? That's the risk of flying. If the safety of the planes was an issue, they would fly overhead or better yet, never leave the ground. As they say "Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they were made for".
zuzupetals1999 1 year ago
@zuzupetals1999 “He wasn't within gliding distance of the field, so the Aerodrome is supposed to purchase the entire town?”
No, just the land at the north end of the runway would have sufficed. LOL The pilot knew he was in trouble during takeoff and didn’t want to crash in front of the spectators. Please read FAA report # ERA10LA021 for details.
RustyRagwing 1 year ago
@RustyRagwing the FAA report states "He did not have sufficient runway in front of him for landing, so he turned to the right, away from the spectator line". Watch the video, he turned right to get some distance away from the runway before a quick base-final set up. A hard left turn over the field and it would have stalled. Unfortunately, you don't get to practice "engine out" landings in these planes. Blaming the Aerodrome for not buying more property is the ultimate in hindsight.
zuzupetals1999 1 year ago
@zuzupetals1999 The Trustees knew well in advance of the sale and ignored it. The land went cheap and was at the north end of the runway. The land has since been cut up and sold by a developer whose site plan put houses in line with the runway! Pretty much cancels out any thought of expansion of the museum and might sooner or later end the shows. Would you not call that neglect and disregard for their responsibility to the Museum?
RustyRagwing 1 year ago
@RustyRagwing Well who are these "Trustees", what they like, why didn't they do the prudent thing when they had a chance? They had to know this would kill everything, did they have a conflict of interests?
And what the hell happened in this crash, what to the plane and the pilot, and where are the pictures of the crash?
ChicaWolverina 3 months ago
@RustyRagwing So it was on take off that the engine started misfiring. So why did he do a 360 over the field with engine missing an did not keep going to base leg and final then land? You call that a good pilot? Yes, until they have an engine misfire and freeze. Anyone can fly normally. Is when things go bad when pilots are proved, others just drive it. With so many crashes outside the airport, NO WONDER THEY WANTED TO CLOSE IT. OBVIOUS. AND THEY DID.
CFITOMAHAWK 3 months ago