I watched this video thinking I may learn something besides the obvious pros and cons of the revolver.Without rehashing what has been said, I have to agree with what Wombat, hybrid and a few others have pointed out.
As for your disregard for those with military training, you truly believe you are on par or surpass someone with special forces training?
@Dtrob888 “As for your disregard for those with military training, you truly believe you are on par or surpass someone with special forces training?” Disregard? Military training is good for war & not civilian incidents. SOME things MAY work in a civilian encounter, but most things are not suitable for civilians to use. I don’t know what your motive is for asking this question so I am going to leave it at that. I’m not convinced that military training is “all that”.
@brian47374 Thank you for clarifying. There was no motive other than trying to understand. As a civilian ,I have always held special forces in high regard and assumed they would be best equipped to handle most/any combat situations. That would take years of intensive training. I see what your saying about training civilians and the focus purely on civilian encounters.
I believe conditioning and learning some methods of hand to hand wouldn't hurt.
@Dtrob888 I believe that SF are some pretty “bad” people at what they do! I will give them that much. SEALS & other SPEC OPS shoot a lot & are good at small operational unit type things. I NEVER try to bash our LE or Military personnel. BUT, there is a difference between what they do & what we do. Yes, I believe in conditioning & learning H2H because I feel H2H is probably going to help you more than the use of a handgun outside of your home for self defense.
Once a week, I go to an indoor range for about 2 hours shooting. In the almost 4 years I've been going, MANY auto-pistols have failed-to-fire, jammed, malfunctioned, etc. I've NEVER seen a revolver fail to fire at the range. I have personally experienced dud ammo in both auto-pistols and revolvers. The revolver clears the dud in a stroke of the trigger, while the auto-pistol needs two hands to clear.
No offense, but it seems a bit of objective reality is missing from this review.
@coltperc Obviously another biased revolver person & that is fine. However, you obviously didn't read all of the posts. ANY gun can & WILL malfunction at some point. What if ALL of your rounds are duds in a revolver? It is a bit more difficult to reload under pressure. To be quite frank, no one can say anything that hasn't already been said. People will believe in whatever makes them feel good. I don't "feel good" about carrying any handgun bc I know they really aren't a great tool.
@brian47374 I will believe the evidence of my own eyes, as observed for nearly 4 years at the range. I was not a "Biased Revolver Person" 4 years ago and was carrying a 1991A1 Colt Commander and Springfield XD 357 SIG for CCW at the time. After observing failure-after-failure of auto pistols, at the range. I retired them for a S&W 66.
Granted, the auto-pistol failures were mainly limp-wrist & maintenance IMO.
BUT, significantly, NO revolvers failed in the same time frame.
@brian47374 Yes that is true. Any mechanical device made by man can and will fail. I do think that modern pistols and revolvers are phenomenally reliable devices with incredible "Mean-time-between-failures".
Almost all auto pistol failures I have witnessed are the shooter's fault. I personally feel confident in carrying a quality auto-pistol that I have fired, maintained and loaded myself.
I'm NOT confident in the ability of many shooters to fire an auto-pistol reliably.
CONT: The Colt Commander I carried for many years only jammed twice on me in many thousands of rounds fired. Yet I've handed the Commander to other shooters and have it jam continually in their hands. I hand the same shooter the S&W 66, and it fires continually and reliably without a hiccup.
I suppose that, like a bolt-action rifle, the revolver can be used by novice or expert, while the auto-pistol is best in the hands of a shooter with the expertise of constant practice!
Cont: One of the reasons I dropped (regretfully) carrying the Colt Commander, is that I do like carrying a J/K/N frame S&W revolver at times. As you well know, in order to safely carry a 1911, it is best to dedicate yourself totally to it. I finally went to the Springfield XD as there is little "culture shock" going back and forth from XD to revolver.
As much as I love a 1911, a major drawback of the design is the dedicated focus needed to safely carry it "locked-and-cocked"!
@coltperc Oh, I agree. Most issues with ANY gun is the SHOOTER. Limp wristing is the primary reason for malfunctions with autoloaders. For the average person who is NOT going to spend much time training, I would agree that a revolver is probably a better choice. However, if you aren't going to train much, DON'T carry a gun!
@brian47374 All of your rounds being duds has nothing to do with revolver vs. semi-auto. If all your rounds are duds in a revolver, you will know it within 3-4 seconds as you keep pulling the trigger waiting for a round to work. In a semi-auto, you will know it after two-handing the gun for 20 seconds or so. Nobody is saying revolvers are magic. SA capacity is a huge advantage. But only a fool would say revolvers aren't much more reliable. Lint! Listen to yourself.
@wombat8881 Really, I've seen lint in a pocket get into a revolver. A friend of mine carries there all the time and he pulled it out one time to shoot and had LINT between the cylinder and the frame preventing the cylinder from turning. You guys act like I just make this stuff up. Just because it hasn't happened to YOU, doesn't mean it hasn't happened! You guys live in a dream world. I'm simply giving you things I've seen or I've been told by people in classes, or have had friends that have told
me has happened to them. Stranger things have happened in life than what I've pointed out as POSSIBILITIES. I look at things from ALL aspects and not just perfect pictures. I'm REALISTIC in what can happen with all guns. Build a bridge and get over it. It is simply information. Treat it as such.
Not everyone uses a pocket holster. Not everyone is as smart as you are about carrying change in a different pocket. THINGS HAPPEN. Don't sit here and tell me what can't happen just because you do things right or it hasn't happened to you. If it hasn't happened to you, GREAT. But don't rule things out as a POSSIBILITY.
@brian47374 OK, look. I am sure this is POSSIBLE. At least some of it. I don't know about lint, but maybe a receipt or something could get wedged in the cylinder. I can't wedge a dime into my 642 anywhere that blocks the cylinder or hammer. But let's say it's POSSIBLE. In a typical day, how many SA FTFs do you see at the range? How many revolver "jams" have you seen in your life? Capacity/reload speed is an infinitely bigger drawback for revolvers.
@wombat8881 I've seen enough to comment on it. Man, you really want to argue this point... don't you? I never said that revolvers are crap. You are missing the point & all you want to do is argue. I've seen enough to make ME not want to carry a revolver. And, I don't like the limited shot capacity. I have the right to say whatever I want in a video. I never said don't buy one. People need to train & they need to know all of the facts.
@brian47374 I had a more pointed reply. You may have seen it in your email. Let me apologize for its pointedness. However, the reason you are getting this type of reaction (not just from me) is because your video dwells on factors that nobody but you even believes exist, and which I think even you would agree are rare/marginal issues. You can have any opinion you want. But, most people making this choice are weighing reliability (revolver) vs capacity and ease of target practice (SA).
@brian47374 Ok, we're in a dream world. I just tried to fire my revolver through my pocket but it wouldn't fire because I had a bunch of coins stuck in it. I cleared those out, but then the lint blocked the cylinder. I cleared that out, but all of my bullets were duds. I reloaded, fired, and my coat burst into an inferno. I am posting this from the afterlife. I wish I had listened to you. Meanwhile, on earth. I see SA FTF frequently. I have NEVER seen these issues your friend is plagued by.
@wombat8881 Look, I NEVER said that the SAME friend had ALL of these issues. I SAID that I have seen them over the years in classes, friends, people telling me these things in NUMEROUS ways. I'm sorry that you don't have a life and get out much and talk to others who do shoot a lot because you might actually hear some crazy stories. Truth is stranger than fiction. Now, I'm done with your nonsense that isn't going to change a THING about anything.
@brian47374 Dude, calm down. This video is presented as helping people decide about revolvers, not as "crazy stories." If somebody tries to fire a SA, what are the odds of a jam? Maybe 1-5% If somebody tries to fire a revolver, what are the odds of a "jam"? Even taking your "crazy stories" at face value, 0.01%? So how is this info helpful for people making this decision? If you don't post BS, you won't be called on it.
@wombat8881 I've bought ammo that all of the rounds were duds when I was filming the basics handgun video. In fact, I had several boxes of ammo that were struck and didn't fire. I put them in an autoloader and they fired fine. So, if you find yourself in a situation where the ammo isn't any good or it doesn't fire, you can keep pulling the trigger and get the same results--NOTHING.
@brian47374 So Brian, you don't feel good about carrying any handgun because they really aren't a great tool. (in your own words) What do you recommend then as a great tool to carry?
@jajmonSW38 I would MUCH rather depend upon my knife to resolve the situation. It doesn't jam unless it is stuck in a person, and it makes nice openings in the body that are hard to fix (just ask my wife who is a surgical nurse). You can cut tendons and ligaments that immobilize immediately. I can have it in hand without being noticed.
@brian47374 all your rounds are dud? hmm.m.another one in a billion circumstance. there is more likelihood of seeing the Bigfoot than that happening. speedloader make reloading much easier. six, seven or eight rounds go in all at the same time. you just need practice. it's the same with any auto. practice makes perfect.
@pinoywheelgunner Yeah, ok, one in a billion chance. Obviously you don't shoot much. I've bought A LOT of ammo over the past 3 years that has been bad. All manufactures. So, it is NOT a one in a billion odds. You are NOT going to speed reload ANY gun when someone is stabbing/cutting you or shooting at you within 30 feet. Get out and TRAIN for crying out loud. Repeat after me, "My gun is NOT my salvation". Say it again and again.
I read the comments before posting mine. I Understand where you are coming from. I carry a Taurus 651 for my personal protection. I have spent days and money firing, drawing and using my firearm to get better. With that said, I agree that in a high intense situation, life on the line, five or six shots may not be enough....but if your that scared or nervous 17 wont be enough either. It all comes down to training and confidence to score "Critical Hits". I liked your video and the points you made
on a brighter note. we are on the same team. we carry,we defend,we train,and we believe. so we are friends. After the smoke clears, NOBODY has all the answers.We just train to do the best we can with what we have and hope Murphy isn't watching and luck shines on us. Every situation is different,dynamic and shitty.
By the way. back on point. My S&W Model 10,and 65 and my Ruger SP101 are more reliable than any autoloader you own. They are more reliable than my Glock 19, glock 30, S&W M&P .45 Kimber warrior, and les baer with caspian slide. period. That is the news. True Story.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES A single shot pistol is more reliable then a revolver. The amount of reliability a revolver has is negligible over a semi auto. Police and military agencies in the US and all around the world wouldn't have dumped their revolvers if semi autos weren't reliable enough.
@esh325 I shoot hundreds of rounds a month, every month, and have been doing it for almost 20 years. If you DON'T then all you are doing is hashing an opinion, which is based on nothing of your own experience. The reliability aspect being "negligible" difference is bullshit. I own many models of both, and shoot them extensively in tactical training and competition. Autoloader malfunctions are part of the deal, it happens. period. It is a rarity with a revolver.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I never said they didn't malfunction, of course they malfunction more then revolvers. I've had autoloaders fail, and never had a revolver fail. A modern semi auto is more then reliable enough in my experience. Hell, one of the Hi Powers I was shooting would jam every last round. Even with the one round that failed, I'm still at better odds then somebody using a revolver.
@esh325 "Than" is the word your looking for not "then", and you pretty much contradicted yourself throughout. I'll give you an English grammar lesson as well as a firearms discussion if you would like.
@esh325 Being fluent in your native language may be important, and you didn't say anything for me to pay any attention towards. This may be a hobby for you, or perhaps you are a amateur enthusiast. I work in this field professionally so I don't think I need to worry about your opinion if you dont shoot as much as I do or have as much experience.
@esh325 and @brian47374 SWAT teams have been using the S&W TR8 .357 magnum.. no double feed, no stovepipe, no need for a tap rack bang. with a misfire just another trigger pull.no slide to contact anything. and 8 rounds too. and i dont think it will jam with lint or coins at a crucial moment.
@pinoywheelgunner I have not seen any SWAT team use a revolver. So, I don't know where you are getting this information from. Maybe it is a Mayberry USA SWAT Team that is still driving 1970's cars too. I wish I was getting paid, but there are other good guns out there too. NONE of them are perfect, and I believe that I did state that revolvers are good tools. I PERSONALLY don't care for them. Believe in whatever YOU want to believe in. Handgun rounds are NOT real effective.
That is why I don't put much faith in them. If you want to believe that 6 shots is enough, that is fine. But, it may not be. Unless you hit the brain or upper spinal cord, physiologically there is NO REASON for the person to become immediately incapacitated. So, are you going to drop someone on the spot? HIGHLY unlikely. So, all of this debate over revolvers, etc. is really nonsense IMHO.
@brian47374 You said they're "good tools" and then brainstormed comical reasons to say they're not. Lint, coins?? I will be struck by a meteor before I have a revolver fail to fire for those reasons. Gee, let me get the coin jar and pour it in the pocket holding my revolver in case there's a 0.0001% chance it'll cause a problem. Since I love keeping expensive metal things in the pocket with my coins, right? Have any of these things you're warning about happened in recorded human history?
@wombat8881 Who is the official record keeper? Seriously, you expect things to be recorded in order to "accept" them as possibilities and things that have happened. I guess you can volunteer for the record keeper. You guys are the funny ones. You see, the more you are at the range, the more things you will see. That is a FACT. Not everything is caught on video people. Not everything is documented.
My comment is not meant to insult by any means. I merely address your comments as flippant because of your overt intention to disregard someones experience as "squat". I have been shot at, been stabbed, drawn my weapon in civilian defense. Used my weapon in military application and have been in uncounted numbers of physical confrontation involving use of unarmed,chemical, and impact levels of force. If you have not then you have no reason to assume anything.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Hey man, I'm not offended. I hope that you aren't. But I don't "fight" because I don't have rules. Therefore it will not take place. A shooting contest is just that. It has nothing to do with the real world. I agree, I don't have all the answers. I never will. That is why I train daily to come up with better answers than what has been presented to me in the past. That is WHY we train people. Yes, every situation is different.
blah blah blah. You got no scars, you dont work in the field. No law enforcement experience,No combat time, no bodyguard experience, no contractor experience, no bouncer experience. Just one more instructor with an opinion. Tex Grebner makes videos as well. The ability to make a video doesn't validate the content.
You make a lot of claims here. Other than anecdotal evidence, what are you basing your opinions on? Has there ever been a single case of a coin stopping a revolver from working? Has anyone ever set their clothes on fire shooting from their pocket? Does a typical civilian defending himself shoot 10 rounds or more? I have read the NRA's Armed Citizen reports for decades and have never seen that. Please provide sources so I can read them and learn more.
@happyending3000 There are none. He is just being different to try a different marketing angle. The lessons learned by experienced real world shooters from the late 1800s all the way to ww2 and modern times dont count when your trying to get a paycheck.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES WHAT? A different angle simply to make money. Obviously you are wrong. We teach things differently because of the fact that most of what is taught DOES NOT WORK as advertised. Keep drinking the kool-aid people. Like I said, there IS a difference between LE, Military, & civilian encounters. But, people like to hang on to what they know instead of learning something new & better. That's called EGO.
@happyending3000 Who knows? I'm just going by what COULD happen. Like the paper test around the cylinder & shooting & the paper caught on fire. No, typically total shots fired are between 3 & 8. That comes from my guys on SWAT. Maybe they are wrong... ;) I do not encourage you to try shooting through your clothing to see if it catches on fire. I would think that a leather jacket (winter) would be more difficult to catch on fire than say a nylon blend.
@brian47374 The video should be called "the case for semi-autos over revolvers" or something. Pros and cons implies a fairly neutral point of view. No, your clothes won't catch on fire (and if they do, it's presumably worth it if you were willing to shoot at someone - it's not like your clothes would turn into a bonfire in a split second). I have never heard of someone carrying a revolver in the same pocket as coins. I have never heard of lint causing reliability issues.
Revolver CON - capacity limitations/ firepower. That is the only con.
Pros: simplistically fast, utterly reliable, more versatile in selective loadings/ better case head support for hot loads/ far more bullet type compatibility, shorter learning curve for gross motor skill ingrainment , inherently more intrinsic accuracy. single action trigger break far superior to anything other than the hightest cost single action autos, no safeties/levers gizmos to cause confustion under duress.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES O yea and Wyatt Earp, Jesse James, Doc Holliday, and Clint Fucking Eastwood carried wheelguns, not Autoloaders. So that may be the most important reason.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Everyone is entitled to THEIR OPINION. Like I said, I NEVER said don't buy a revolver. If you want to bank your life on them, FINE. But don't act like they ARE superior to a good autoloader. Because that just isn't true. We've ALL seen cases where revolvers & autoloaders have failed, etc. I've listed plenty of things I've seen & experienced with revolvers. That's exactly why I don't own one NOW.
To think that 6 rounds is enough to end a fight the way most people teach using a pistol in a life or death situation is foolish. Very few people fall down & die on the spot. And I seriously doubt that you are going to land all of your rounds, if any, & you wish you had more. It is better to have the extra rounds & not need them to need them & not have them. There is nothing further that can be said about reliability, etc. It IS personal preference. End of story...
@brian47374 Ever seen that? Ever been in an ER and taken a report from a gunshot wound victim. End of story is that you have no experience outside of what you have been taught. None of it is first hand. FBI statistics will show that the vast majority of defensive handgun incidents are concluded within 3-5 rounds with either incapacitation, death, or flight. Much of what you have said is contradictory. If most incidents are within 10 feet (which is correct) reloading is not gonna happen.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES in addition the extra capacity in the auto surely is an asset as capacity is a limitation of the revolver,but using the tueller drill as an example it makes no difference if you have 4 mags on your belt, you are not likely gonna access them. Using your own argument against you. If I "try to draw from concelament" you can close 10 feet and engage with an edged weapon before I can complete my draw. Ok. So if I use my non firing hand to fend while I draw I may get 3-4 rounds off.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES those 4 rounds will either incapactitate you, or you may cut your way through my one handed defense and incapacitate me with your edged weapon. In that CQB environment where the weapon is in contact range The autoloader has a far better chance of malfunctioning than a revolver. If you include the aspect that some insist on carrying condition three (ridiculous) their weapons are already disabled. Do I want a revolver on the battlefield? Nope. For CCW in civvy world? yep.
@brian47374 most people agree that there are strentghs and weaknesses to revolver and auto. there would be no problem if glock isnt so aggressive in their marketing strategy to hire someone like you. dont bash anybody. the superior weapon is the WEAPON the shooter likes, and practices with.
He's discounting that a revolver is normally chambered in much more powerful calibers, speed loaders, and that not everyone starts shooting rounds like they would a semiautomatic. If you know your gun your reaction shot will be more reliable than he's suspecting. With a 357Magnum one shot is really all you need, it causes way more damage than any 9mm. I may not conceal carry but I do know ballistics.
@flyfishingking200 WHAT?! Revolvers are normally chambered in more powerful calibers? The majority of revolvers that I see people carry are.38's. You only need one shot with a .357? Lol... Yeah, good luck with your one shot theory. Obviously you haven't read a thing that I have posted here. Unless you hit the brain or upper spinal cord, immediate incapacitation isn't going to happen. It is doubtful you will hit either of those.
You can get 9mm P+ ammo that is pretty close to .357. Ballistically handgun rounds don't penetrate enough to cause the necessary damage to take someone out. That's the problem with handguns. That's why you should NEVER rely on them to save your life. Case and point.
@brian47374 that is not correct either. Over penetration is one of the primary concerns. What 9mm anything round approaches the ballistic performance of a 125 or 157 grain .357 mag loaded to 1400-1500 feet per second with a soft lead semi wadcutter or LSWHC ? Ever seen a bear stopped with a 9mm? I know guys who will hunt ELK with a .357 mag.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Okay… a standard 9mm 115 is around 1100-1200 fps. Found this on my box of Pow’R Ball 9mm P+ 110 grain 1475 fps. I’ve also seen as high as 1950 by Magsafe. The highest velocity on a .357 I’ve seen is 1975. The “average .357 magnum round is around 1450-1650, with most of what I’ve seen is on the lower end of that number AND below. I got that information from ballistics101 site.
All I am saying is that you can get what I would consider “decently close” with 9mm P+ to a .357 Magnum VELOCITY. Would I use a .357 for concealed carry? NO! We can argue calibers for the next 20 yrs & honestly handgun rounds are really ineffective for self-defense use because of the lack of penetration. You would not be so “lucky” to get a one shot kill with a .357 in a civilian self-defense encounter. Would I carry 9mm P+ ammo? Possibly if I saw more tests on it.
No bullet works EVERY time other than a .50 cal rifle. There is no bullet in existence for handguns that will convince me "that is the round" to carry. Because the human body is resilient & can put up with more than we think.
@brian47374 Why do you insist on approaching as if you are teaching me something. I do this for a living. I have years and years of seeing what violence does to people. In the hospital, in an ambulance, on the street, on the battlefield... so save it. You punch paper and then make videos of your opinion, that isnt fact. Your opinion is great, but dont get on a platform and preach when others don't agree. IF you dont want argument, dont make videos.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Hang on… It’s going to be a rough ride! “Why do you insist on approaching as if you are teaching me something.” Well, because from what you say, your approach isn’t realistic or practical from a civilian aspect. I am preaching against what 99% of instructors teach. I EXPECT an argument. In fact, I LOVE a good argument especially when it comes from people who teach stuff that is likely to get people hurt or killed. However, your experience does not mean squat in the grand
scheme of things. FYI, my wife is a surgical nurse in Indianapolis and sees stabbings & gunshots on a regular basis. So, my information is as good as first hand. She tells me that knife wounds are almost always worse than gunshot wounds. Don’t come here & TRY to bash what I’m saying or doing just because you have “experience”, etc. It doesn’t make it so just because you say it. A rocket scientist probably hasn’t been an astronaut but he still knows how to make the rocket get to the moon.
So your “experience” point is really invalid in my book. & I will continue to tell others that as well & I really point that out in the Reality vs The Matrix Handgun Training video series. I’ve humbled people in class that were COPS, Special Forces, Trainers, competition shooters, & students of other big name schools. These people had experience & I taught them something they didn’t know. And that was the APPROACH to the fight is far different for civilians. This means EVERYTHING in your tactic
“FBI statistics will show that the vast majority of defensive handgun incidents are concluded within 3-5 rounds with either incapacitation, death, or flight. Much of what you have said is contradictory.” Really? I take what I say mostly from the FBI’s report. Most people DON’T die from being shot. If so, there would be A LOT more deaths than people living. So, since 3-5 rounds is the AVERAGE doesn’t mean that it WILL be for you. And don’t forget the FREEZE factor in a fight.
But most people don’t teach that either. The FBI’s report says that on AVERAGE, you can only expect 1 or 2 solid torso hits. Does that mean you WILL hit them twice? NO. Does it mean that you won’t hit them 100%? NO. It means ON AVERAGE. So, which of those torso shots do you EXPECT to take them immediately out of the fight? Neither one, or any of them that don’t hit the brain!
I could care less about what Clint or Masaad says. While I respect them, I don’t agree with MOST of what they say or teach. I think that it is really BS & that is WHY I do what I do. Go tell “daddy” that I’ve disgraced the holy grail teachings and I should be banned as an instructor. You should defend what you teach although I disagree with practically everything you’ve said. It is nothing personal but I’m tired of people like you & most defensive handgun trainers
(DHT) teaching things that are not likely to work in civilian conflicts. That is WHY I teach what I teach. Just because you have “use of force experience” means exactly what? That you know what you are doing? That you did the right thing, or just got lucky. Now, your ego will tell you that you know what you are doing. But the fact is you may have just gotten lucky. WHO KNOWS? You most certainly don’t.
You will defend what you teach, and I will defend what I teach. Just because I don’t have “combat” experience doesn’t mean squat my friend (go back & read comment about rocket scientist). So just because someone is a COP for 20 yrs doesn’t mean a thing to me other than they’ve seen some nasty stuff. Do they have something to teach me? Sure, but I’m confident it isn’t how to shoot. What I teach is pretty much what I’ve trained on in my own time and have found to be the best tactics for
most situations. I don’t agree with what I was taught in martial arts, and that is only because I didn’t just drink the kool-aid.
I’ve seen Krav & Filipino knife arts & I’m not at all impressed. In fact, most of what I’ve seen will get you injured or killed. Yeah, Krav is better than most things, but not enough to really “endorse” it as a combat system. I’ve trained veterans from all branches my friend and NONE of them have said anything negative about what I do.
So, your OPINION is irrelevant to me because I am CONSTANTLY getting emails, phone calls, etc. about how good of a job I’m doing at exposing things. Am I going to win a popularity contest speaking out against the crap most people are teaching? NO. But, all I care about is those people who want their minds freed from the BS that people like you with huge egos who have “all this experience” and think they know it all.
You & other defensive handgun trainers paint the pretty picture syndrome for your students in that you will be able to neutralize the threat(s) with your handgun, when just the opposite is true. And, maybe you need to watch our video on reaction times because you probably won’t have time to parry an attack unless you know the rituals of attack. I have yet to see any instructor teach them, including any of mine.
I do this for a living and I learn things EVERY DAY. Maybe you should let go of your ego and learn something here. But because you are a trainer & you seem to have “experience”, there is nothing more for you to learn. So, if “experience” always trumps someone like me who doesn’t have “combat” experience, then why are soldiers and LEO’s dying on the job? Oh wait, because they have had the training you teach and other instructors teach and it gets them killed.
They believed in the misinformation they were fed & now they are dead. What stats don’t tell us is how much training the person had, their mindset, what ACTUALLY happened, did they react too soon or too late. MAYBE what they did was what they were taught by some “defensive handgun” instructor and when they shot at or even hit the threat and they will still getting stabbed or shot they were thinking to themselves… “What went wrong? This wasn’t what I was taught!”
Most civilians who are shot LIVE and/or at least make it to the ER. Honestly, people want to feel good about the use of their gun. Most martial arts training & defensive handgun training is feel good training. “In that CQB environment where the weapon is in contact range The autoloader has a far better chance of malfunctioning than a revolver. “ WRONG AGAIN… not at all if you know how to defend that gun AND don’t use typical DHT. It has the SAME chance of malfunctioning as a revolver.
BTW, I have a personal range that is about the size of a football field just behind my house & I can shoot 180 degrees. I train on it on a regular basis. And, just because you fire shots doesn’t mean the training is realistic. Just because people have been teaching things for years (which is yielding poor results or the deaths of shooting victims WOULD BE much higher), doing the same thing & expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Like I said, from what you’ve posted, etc.,
I really don’t think that you actually know the differences in civilian, LE, or military conflicts. Let’s face it, your sole purpose here is to try & drive business your way because you are “Mr. Know It ALL” with so much experience & ego that you just HAVE to be right. Brother, if you had something to teach me & it was realistic, then I’d be more than happy to listen to you.
But, odds are you know pretty much what just about every other martial arts & DHT teach & I’ve been there done that & I think that for the most part, it is worthless stuff. Can you teach the basics of handgun shooting & safety?Probably. Just about any instructor can. When it comes to the realistic application of unarmed & armed combatives in a fight, I’d say you are with the majority which is not something that I agree with.
I KNEW when we started this business & speak out against MOST instructors I would meet people like you. I love a good debate. It brings me business! But when you can put gloves on & spar, it IS a sport. If it was so effective, then you wouldn’t be able to spar because people would be getting seriously hurt. I just present information & people have to decide for themselves what they want to do.
If they want to feel good about using a gun, they will probably come to you. If they want to know how to deploy a gun into a fight in a realistic manner, we have better solutions. If people want to feel good & deceive themselves, hey, it’s THEIR lives. We are looking for those who want to be freed from the Matrix type teachings & learn the real risks involved & methods that will increase their odds of survival.
@brian47374 I'll put money down that I can outshoot you in any environment in any condition,and if you want to continue with the insults. I'll make it public and wager $1,000.00 followed by an unarmed submission match to be video'd and posted pitting your school against mine. My best shooters and fighters against your's.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Like I said, I don't do sports so you won't find me on a mat "competing" or putting gloves on. And you don't know my experience either. Some of it is on my website. Just because I don't have "combat" experience means squat. Like I said, you have all the answers AND a very huge ego.
@brian47374 Your ego is what causes you to make videos of your opinions. Where do you get this sport thing from? I teach combatives. I am a former combatives instructor from Ft.Bragg NC. Where I served on the combatives instruction team for the JFK special warfare center and school teaching current 7th special forces group personnel and q course students. Gloves dont exist.
@brian47374 I think the reason why you're getting so much flac is because you're saying all this stuff about revolvers, but you aren't proving any of these things, or showing sources at least.
@brian47374 You dont have any clue what I teach. Where it comes from or what it entails.Anyone reading this post will understand the arrogance you spew because you will argue on any front about shit you have no experience in. This was simply about the reliability of a revolver and your opinion against that. Which is a clownshoe opinion. Yet you deviate to ballistics, use of force, someones professional experience,and your distaste for trainers far more in the know that you are. I'm done. Bored.
@brian47374 Don't be sad. Just be glad you can make money and not actually have to fight to prove it. Else you might not be so arrogant. You know why I raise pitbulls? They don't bark, they bite. Had you any law enforcement experience or military perhaps your teeth would have some mileage rather than just a loud raspy bark.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES The FREEZE factor also comes from the “Does this stuff really work as advertised” doubt kicking in during a real fight. Competition shooting is good for MAYBE 10% of confrontations. Stop acting like it is all that. I don’t care that you were an instructor in the Military… means zip in the civilian world. I’ve seen some of the hand-to-hand stuff that we teach our military… I hate to tell you that it isn’t all that either. Again, I’ve trained guys that have been through
S F training, etc. & I just sit back & laugh with some of the moves they’ve shown me. I don’t care about anyone’s experience because it doesn’t mean squat to me. One thing that you fail to realize is that 2 of my staff guys are on SWAT & have various martial arts training as well. We don’t teach sport oriented stuff that is commonly taught as “combat” styles. We teach things that are simple, effective, realistic and practical. You see, just because I don’t have “combat” experience, doesn’t
mean I don’t have them close by & talk to them often. I happen to be the guy who does this full-time & doesn’t mind being on camera. But, even if they were the ones on camera it wouldn’t change what we are teaching. So, where does that leave us now? Back to what I was saying about most martial arts & DHT being crap. It does take a lot to impress me because of my years of training. I am open to learning new things, but the principles of most systems are not solid.
BTW, I don't play by rules. That's why I don't get on the mat. It is simply a game & thinking otherwise is kidding yourself. In order to win, I would have to kill you. There's no contest in a real fight. You fight to survive, not get points. I don't play the BS game of I could have this or that. I crush things & get the job done. So, say what you want, believe what you want, because in the end, it doesn't really matter to me.
@brian47374 which is not something you would accomplish. The reason you dont get on the mat is bacause you dont want your ass kicked. It is easier to rach theory and not have to prove anything than it is to pressure test even the smallest aspect. I know you are WAY to deadly to fight on a mat. Just like you are way to dangerous to prove your speed and marksmanship on a competitive range. paper dragon.
@brian47374 I have seen immediate incapacitation from a single round from a supposed sub caliber weapon. I have seen an man leave AMA outpatient from a .45ACP to the throat. Quit with the lessons, I have far more insight into this equation than you do. You haven't SEEN or taken part in any of this. Your just passin what you your opinion is based on OTHER people's research that may or may not be valid Goddamn youtube. You dont even have a cool beard like Chris Costa, but then again he can shoot.
@brian47374 The "freeze" factor? OOOOOOOOOOO yea, that little stress based reactionary gap / Ooda Loop problem that you have never actually experienced but teach about? No I didn't forget about it. In fact I have some scars from a knife that will prove that it is real. Competitive shooting also helps build the neural pathways to help reduce that gap as well,but you dont do that either because that isnt tacticool enough for you I imagine because it "isnt real". Just like MMA isnt.
@brian47374 Of course you wouldn't carry a .357 mag. Because you have seen with your own eyes if it is effective or not. The 125 SJHP .357 magnum has the highest stop percentage of recorded handgun projectile use in the US. That IS a fact. Nothing in your auto loader inventory approaches the terminal ballistics of a .44 magnum. I handload .38 special to velocities greater than standard pressure 9mm not even to mention handload pressures of 158 grain .357 mag.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES we can argue ballistics all day. What the revo vs. auto loader argument boils down to is CAPACITY/FIREPOWER, and in that I concede. The auto wins. It does NOT however win in the reliability department. This is not a secret. Failures to feed,failures to eject,double feeds,stovepipes,extractor wear and breakage,magazine failure, bullet incompatibility issues etc... simply dont exist with a revolver. The mechanical failure issues of a revolver are few and far between.
@brian47374 I get data from MY BENCH not someone elses data that I regurgitate. This isnt secret information. All of the projectile ballistics are closing in on each other in modern loadings. It is almost a good assumption to say that they all work effectively now. 9mm has closed the gap and is a damn good stopper now. The .357 always has been. It is proven and trusted where the 9mm has not always been. Hell the .38spl in the right load is a good stopper it is just tossed off as "old"
To say that a "well made" autoloader is mechanically more reliable than any given revolver is simply a logical error. Fewer moving parts and fewer small parts leave (you guessed it) fewer spaces that foreign matter can interfere with. While this gentleman is knowledgeable, he lost credibility with this comment. Regardless of your preference - on a strictly mechanical basis - the reduction in ways Murphy's Law applies makes revolvers mechanically superior. Again, it's a choice. But, do the math.
@XeroJaeger So WHERE does it say that fewer moving parts MAKES it more reliable? And, the revolver having the HUGE gap between the cylinder and the firing pin makes it VERY vulnerable to malfunctioning. Not to mention that I’ve personally seen the ejector rods come out of revolvers because they came loose. It ALL boils down to ANY GUN CAN & WILL MALFUNCTION.
Okay, I don’t have a revolver handy (bc I don't own one), but let’s take a look at the moving parts. Revolver: Trigger, hammer, firing pin, cylinder, ejection rod which is what the cylinder rotates on. That makes 5 parts. Autoloader: trigger, hammer, firing pin, slide. That is 4 parts. And, they are pretty much contained in a manner which dirt, etc. should not affect them like a revolver.
@brian47374 "Okay, I don’t have a revolver handy (bc I don't own one)," so that makes you an expert on revolvers and their tactical flaws. I just love the 'con' comment that discharging a revolver in your pocket will cause your close to ignite,,,and an auto won't do the same? STUPID Get a revolver, learn it, use it before you make uninformed comments about pros/cons. Oh you forgot to mention the one thing necessary to make an auto work as far as parts - A MAGAZINE - drink kool-aid
@jajmonSW38 I never said I haven't owned one, I said I DON'T own one. You ASSume that I don't own one so I don't know what I'm talking about. ASSuming that I haven't owned one doesn't mean that I haven't shot plenty of them. I can shoot my Glock without a magazine in it. Can you shoot a revolver without the cylinder? Try placing a piece of paper around the cylinder & overlap it to the barrel without going to the muzzle & see if the paper doesn't catch on fire. It's MORE LIKELY to happen
with a revolver. Obviously you favor revolvers & that is fine. But I've STUDIED them & I don't own one bc of their many flaws. Continue to drink the kool-aid... it's YOUR life.
@brian47374 real nice come back about shooting a revolver w/o a cylinder vs not having a magazine to shoot an auto. LAME Go ahead and shoot your ONE round in your glock w/o a mag. (I can do the same with my SW auto.) My cylinder is attached to my frame and I have my 6 rounds, like I'm going to go around w/o my cylinder. Really, you made that comment and the other BS about paper around the cylinder,,,real good informed advice as it pertains to real world.
@jajmonSW38 Dear Key Board Commando (KBC)…Obviously you can’t read what I said so I’m not going to waste my time repeating what I said. I don’t NEED the magazine for the gun to shoot. That was my point. The cylinder HAS to be in place for a revolver to shoot. That’s my point. The point I made about the paper around the cylinder was in reference to your clothes catching on fire. I’ve seen a number of things with revolvers. Including but not limited to:
cylinder not rotating, thus preventing the gun from firing. Ejection rods come loose and caused the cylinder to not rotate & the cylinder actually fall out. Not real good in a fight! I’ve seen ejection rods come loose preventing the cylinder from opening for reloading. Also, I’ve seen hinges that came loose & caused the cylinder to fall out. Not to forget that I’ve seen cylinders move forward enough to where the gun wouldn’t fire.
If revolvers are indeed what you believe they are, then WHY aren’t COPS & Military using them? I mean, if 6 shots is truly enough to incapacitate a threat, then WHY the switch? I don’t believe that Law Enforcement & Military get it right all of the time, but it only makes sense to me WHY they would go from revolvers to reliable autoloaders.
@brian47374 6 shots are enough. sorry to disappoint you, but military hi-cap m16s lost to crude zipguns used by the VC. they needed better tactics, not more bullets.
@brian47374 I can read what you said,,,"Can you shoot a revolver without the cylinder? " Well no you can't. But your other words "The cylinder HAS to be in place for a revolver to shoot. That’s my point." Can you read what I said? It's obvious that we disagree with your negative posture on revolvers vs autos and that in your opinion that if you don't have anything less than 30rnds - your dead because your in some civilian street world shoot out. peace out,done w/you. good luck
@brian47374 I absolutely agree that any gun can/will fail. But the claim was made in this video that a well made semi will perform better than any given revolver. THAT is the claim I'm refuting. The claim was made with no substantiating evidence other than, "I've seen it." Be that as it may, any mechanical device with fewer moving and/or complex parts has a statistically lower failure possibility than one with more. I apologize if I was unclear in my first post. Disrespect was not intended.
XeroJaeger Thanks for the apology, but I didn't take it as disrespect. I do have pretty thick skin nonetheless. All I am saying is that I would place my Glock against ANY revolver out there and that under ALL possible conditions and most of the time, will be as reliable if not more reliable than most revolvers. One can believe in whatever type they want, in the end, the gun isn't going to save your life. Your tactics and mindset are more important than the gun you carry.
@XeroJaeger I agree. As one can see from the comments from this video and Brian backpedaling and trying to defend his 'expert' revolver experience as to basically they are inferior weapon for SELF defense and not what you would want to use in a 'street' fight where the flipping world is trying to 'hurt you' and you need massive rounds, well carry an AR15 and 10 30rnd mags. Brian
@brian47374 I have shot competition for 20 years including military service in combat. I have never seen a revolver go down in action pistol, USPSA, or IDPA. I have seen everything from 1911s (quite frequently) and striker guns to include Glock go down in almost every match in some capacity or not. I have NEVER had a wheelgun malfunction in 24 years of shooting. I have had dozens of Glocks and many of them have malfunction from FTF,FTFr, and FTE. Your stats are way off, and not accurate.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Competition shooting & civilian combat shooting are two TOTALLY different things. Competition shooting you are not on your back lying in the mud, snow, etc. There is NO chance of your gun being knocked out of your hand or your holster filling up with mud from being drug through the mud before you can get your gun out. People, it really isn’t a hard concept to understand. A revolver has exposed parts. MANY more of the parts are exposed than an autoloader.
The problem is that too many people THINK that IF they are attacked it is going to go “as planned” or even half way as planned. When you are fighting for YOUR life, it isn’t going to be what you pictured or trained for. AGAIN, a revolver is not infallible, and I will tell you that it IS more vulnerable to the elements than a good autoloader such as a Glock.
Sure, if any gun is not cared for it can & will malfunction. Do you know how many rounds those FTE were a result of? If someone is a competition shooter they are probably going to be firing A LOT more than the average person. Therefore, if they don’t care for their guns as well as they should, things will happen like you mentioned. Not to mention that I CAN prevent you from ever firing your revolver pretty easily.
If you believe that you are going to get more than 20% of your rounds on target AND eliminate the threat, I’d be more than happy to have you in a force on force class & prove your THEORY wrong of how many bullets you will get on target & that I will still be in the fight putting a serious hurt on you. Please don’t take any of this personal. But until you have a REAL understanding of what I am saying, AND, you have trained with someone attacking you WITHOUT rules, you really don’t
have much credible input here. I am trying to give people good information for them to make a decision about what they choose to try & defend their life. Just because you have competition experience & even military experience doesn’t mean squat in the civilian combat world. I mean no disrespect there, but maybe you should watch our Reality vs The Matrix Handgun Training video series & learn the difference.
I’ve seen people with revolvers in class have as many issues as some autoloaders, if not more issues. Like I said, I WILL take my chances with a good autoloader ANY day of the week over ANY revolver. But hey, that's just MY opinion.
@brian47374 please elaborate on the 'many' issues, if not more issues, than autos. You blow all this smoke and want people to drink your kool-aid. A revolver is reliable as the sun rises in the east. I bet MY life on a revolver. Was at the range today w/my auto, pulled the trigger, no BANG, WTF, eject the round to fire next rnd. If that had been a 'situation', I wasted time clearing chamber vs pulling the trigger again and bang w/revolver. Your video lacks credibility.
@brian47374 "civilian combat world" wow, where do you live? wait, you train where people are trying to hurt you,,bunker mentality, how realistic is that - "credible input" you don't own a revolver - no kool-aid intake here.
@jajmonSW38 You really don't have a clue do you? You should probably move along now because you are REALLY out there with your comments & you obviously cannot comprehend the simplicity of what I am saying. So, since you have PROVEN the fact that you don't know much, if anything, & can't understand what I'm saying, you are wasting my time & I am not going to argue with someone who doesn't have a grip on reality. I LIVE this stuff EVERY DAY. Goodbye...
@brian47374 Are you a combat veteran? I am. Frankly I dont need a lesson in the difference. I own and operate a defensive tactics school, and will challenge your revolver theory all day long. I will run it in any climate, any condition, with ANY ammo type. Try running wadcutters through your Glock and see how long it runs with out a failure to feed. Try running your Glock up to a 1700 feet per second 158 semi wadcutter and see if it doesn't blow your chamber apart.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES What does a combat veteran have to do with any of this? Most people don't know the difference between civilian, LE, & Military conflicts. So because you own & operate a tactical school means...? I've had people from ALL walks of life train with us & never saw the difference until they took a course from us. Anyone who RELIES on the handgun to neutralize the threat in a civilian conflict while on the street is sadly mistaken.
@brian47374 Now you just being ignorant. Dont preach stuff you have never done. Have you ever used force? Ever been in an actual firefight? Ever shoot thousands of rounds through a revo to justify your opinion or are you just spewing what someone else taught you. Blah,Blah,Blah. You made a ignorant comment and called out on it. Why don't you spew that shit to Massad Ayoob or Clint Smith.. I'll forward you the email. see what they think about your opinion.
@brian47374 In addition you didn't read what I said. Regardless of the always present " competition is different from combat" (which usually comes from guys that have no experience in either) line. If they go down in comp how will they fare in less than optimal environments? If you make a video that is incorrect expect to get called on it. Any weapon can malfunction, but reliability leans toward the wheelgun. This is not a secret.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I haven't gone down and the video is NOT incorrect. Only in your mind. Just because you THINK that a revolver IS more reliable, that's YOUR opinion. Competition shooting IS different from real life situations for civilians. I have trained numerous competition shooters & they have seen the difference. Competition shooting is a SPORT. And MOST things that are sport oriented, just like with martial arts, are NOT combat effective.
No, old timers want to hang on to that mindset. Like I said, why aren't COPS & LE still carrying them? Some people want to believe in what they grew up with or what some "expert" told them. Doesn't make it so. I'm just stating things that can go wrong and the cons. But you are hell bent on brainwashing people into believing that revolvers ARE more reliable & that just isn't so. But, that's JUST my opinion.
@brian47374 indeed it is just YOUR OPINION. Which is mostly based on what you have taught not in actual experience. Had it been you would have chimed in by now. Being an instructor because you were taught by another instructor is great, that is how the learning chain works, but dont make videos implying fact when it is just your opinion. There are alot of people that disagree with you that have " been there done that"
Those are always the comments from someone who does neither. If I shoot over a thousand rounds a month in dynamic shooting scenarios do you think you are faster than me? I have no less than three revolvers with no less than 10,000 rounds through them and have never had a failure to fire. SO dont though your less than experience based arrogance.I am asking you a direct question. Do you have any experience as a law enforcement officer, security contractor, bodyguard,or soldier?
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Regarding your comment about if they go down in competition how will they fare in the real world? Well, competition shooting MAY only represent about 10% of civilian situations, that is, from 10 ft. and out. 90% of civilian conflicts take place within 10 feet. 80% of that takes place from 0-6 ft. I can assure you that if you are within 10 feet of me & I have a knife & you go to draw your gun from concealment, you are going to lose badly. AT BEST you might get your gun out
& shoot me. In the real world people don’t just stand there & let you shoot them like paper targets. Not to mention that if I had a gun, there is NO WAY that you are going to get your gun out & shoot me before I can get several rounds off. You see, you can’t outdraw a drawn gun. And in competition that person isn’t shooting back. So what are you REALLY representing when competing? A static target that can’t harm you.
@brian47374 Considering I am a filipino martial arts instructor and student and teach Krav Maga. Your barkin up the wrong tree if you think this is a lesson. Have you ever done ANY of this other than on paper? I work in an armed profession pal, and have been involved in dozens of use of force encounters including edged weapons. Your entitled to your opinion, but don't make videos inplying fact if you have no actual experience in use of force other than scenario based Force on force training.
@brian47374 I am fully aware of the statistics, and the Tueller drill,and as far as losing badly that is purely situational, and the results are not concrete. We work counter ambush edged weapon drills weekly. some empty handed some armed from concealment. I have also been witness to the aftermath of many edged weapon attacks, and other than the gross factor many are superficial in regards to incapacitation. Slashing attacks from sub 5 inch blades through clothing are overrated in effectiveness.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES piercing/stabbing attacks under 3 inches are also not outstanding in incapacitation. I was stabbed 7 times in the course of taking down a violent offender in a bar and wasn't even aware i was stabbed until after he was subdued and in handcuffs.None of the wounds were life threatening, including three in the abdomen that never penetrated the muscle through my shirts.Had I been aware he ws using lethal force in that circumstance I would have surely been able to draw and discharge
I watched this video thinking I may learn something besides the obvious pros and cons of the revolver.Without rehashing what has been said, I have to agree with what Wombat, hybrid and a few others have pointed out.
As for your disregard for those with military training, you truly believe you are on par or surpass someone with special forces training?
Dtrob888 2 days ago
@Dtrob888 “As for your disregard for those with military training, you truly believe you are on par or surpass someone with special forces training?” Disregard? Military training is good for war & not civilian incidents. SOME things MAY work in a civilian encounter, but most things are not suitable for civilians to use. I don’t know what your motive is for asking this question so I am going to leave it at that. I’m not convinced that military training is “all that”.
brian47374 2 days ago
@brian47374 Thank you for clarifying. There was no motive other than trying to understand. As a civilian ,I have always held special forces in high regard and assumed they would be best equipped to handle most/any combat situations. That would take years of intensive training. I see what your saying about training civilians and the focus purely on civilian encounters.
I believe conditioning and learning some methods of hand to hand wouldn't hurt.
Dtrob888 2 days ago
@Dtrob888 I believe that SF are some pretty “bad” people at what they do! I will give them that much. SEALS & other SPEC OPS shoot a lot & are good at small operational unit type things. I NEVER try to bash our LE or Military personnel. BUT, there is a difference between what they do & what we do. Yes, I believe in conditioning & learning H2H because I feel H2H is probably going to help you more than the use of a handgun outside of your home for self defense.
brian47374 2 days ago
@brian47374 Thanks again. Will be sure to check out more of your vids
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wombat8881 1 week ago
title should be changed to "REVOLVER CONS". there is no advantage to a revolver according to this video.
pinoywheelgunner 1 week ago
glock company please give this guy a raise. he deserves it.
pinoywheelgunner 1 week ago
HMMMMM.
Once a week, I go to an indoor range for about 2 hours shooting. In the almost 4 years I've been going, MANY auto-pistols have failed-to-fire, jammed, malfunctioned, etc. I've NEVER seen a revolver fail to fire at the range. I have personally experienced dud ammo in both auto-pistols and revolvers. The revolver clears the dud in a stroke of the trigger, while the auto-pistol needs two hands to clear.
No offense, but it seems a bit of objective reality is missing from this review.
coltperc 1 week ago
@coltperc Obviously another biased revolver person & that is fine. However, you obviously didn't read all of the posts. ANY gun can & WILL malfunction at some point. What if ALL of your rounds are duds in a revolver? It is a bit more difficult to reload under pressure. To be quite frank, no one can say anything that hasn't already been said. People will believe in whatever makes them feel good. I don't "feel good" about carrying any handgun bc I know they really aren't a great tool.
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 I will believe the evidence of my own eyes, as observed for nearly 4 years at the range. I was not a "Biased Revolver Person" 4 years ago and was carrying a 1991A1 Colt Commander and Springfield XD 357 SIG for CCW at the time. After observing failure-after-failure of auto pistols, at the range. I retired them for a S&W 66.
Granted, the auto-pistol failures were mainly limp-wrist & maintenance IMO.
BUT, significantly, NO revolvers failed in the same time frame.
coltperc 1 week ago
@coltperc I've seen a lot of things. And ALL I am saying is that ANY gun can and WILL malfunction at some point and time.
brian47374 1 week ago
I NEVER said they were common things. Just things that HAVE happened.
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 Yes that is true. Any mechanical device made by man can and will fail. I do think that modern pistols and revolvers are phenomenally reliable devices with incredible "Mean-time-between-failures".
Almost all auto pistol failures I have witnessed are the shooter's fault. I personally feel confident in carrying a quality auto-pistol that I have fired, maintained and loaded myself.
I'm NOT confident in the ability of many shooters to fire an auto-pistol reliably.
coltperc 1 week ago
CONT: The Colt Commander I carried for many years only jammed twice on me in many thousands of rounds fired. Yet I've handed the Commander to other shooters and have it jam continually in their hands. I hand the same shooter the S&W 66, and it fires continually and reliably without a hiccup.
I suppose that, like a bolt-action rifle, the revolver can be used by novice or expert, while the auto-pistol is best in the hands of a shooter with the expertise of constant practice!
coltperc 1 week ago
Cont: One of the reasons I dropped (regretfully) carrying the Colt Commander, is that I do like carrying a J/K/N frame S&W revolver at times. As you well know, in order to safely carry a 1911, it is best to dedicate yourself totally to it. I finally went to the Springfield XD as there is little "culture shock" going back and forth from XD to revolver.
As much as I love a 1911, a major drawback of the design is the dedicated focus needed to safely carry it "locked-and-cocked"!
coltperc 1 week ago
@coltperc Oh, I agree. Most issues with ANY gun is the SHOOTER. Limp wristing is the primary reason for malfunctions with autoloaders. For the average person who is NOT going to spend much time training, I would agree that a revolver is probably a better choice. However, if you aren't going to train much, DON'T carry a gun!
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 All of your rounds being duds has nothing to do with revolver vs. semi-auto. If all your rounds are duds in a revolver, you will know it within 3-4 seconds as you keep pulling the trigger waiting for a round to work. In a semi-auto, you will know it after two-handing the gun for 20 seconds or so. Nobody is saying revolvers are magic. SA capacity is a huge advantage. But only a fool would say revolvers aren't much more reliable. Lint! Listen to yourself.
wombat8881 1 week ago
@wombat8881 Really, I've seen lint in a pocket get into a revolver. A friend of mine carries there all the time and he pulled it out one time to shoot and had LINT between the cylinder and the frame preventing the cylinder from turning. You guys act like I just make this stuff up. Just because it hasn't happened to YOU, doesn't mean it hasn't happened! You guys live in a dream world. I'm simply giving you things I've seen or I've been told by people in classes, or have had friends that have told
brian47374 1 week ago
me has happened to them. Stranger things have happened in life than what I've pointed out as POSSIBILITIES. I look at things from ALL aspects and not just perfect pictures. I'm REALISTIC in what can happen with all guns. Build a bridge and get over it. It is simply information. Treat it as such.
brian47374 1 week ago
Not everyone uses a pocket holster. Not everyone is as smart as you are about carrying change in a different pocket. THINGS HAPPEN. Don't sit here and tell me what can't happen just because you do things right or it hasn't happened to you. If it hasn't happened to you, GREAT. But don't rule things out as a POSSIBILITY.
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 OK, look. I am sure this is POSSIBLE. At least some of it. I don't know about lint, but maybe a receipt or something could get wedged in the cylinder. I can't wedge a dime into my 642 anywhere that blocks the cylinder or hammer. But let's say it's POSSIBLE. In a typical day, how many SA FTFs do you see at the range? How many revolver "jams" have you seen in your life? Capacity/reload speed is an infinitely bigger drawback for revolvers.
wombat8881 1 week ago
@wombat8881 I've seen enough to comment on it. Man, you really want to argue this point... don't you? I never said that revolvers are crap. You are missing the point & all you want to do is argue. I've seen enough to make ME not want to carry a revolver. And, I don't like the limited shot capacity. I have the right to say whatever I want in a video. I never said don't buy one. People need to train & they need to know all of the facts.
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 I had a more pointed reply. You may have seen it in your email. Let me apologize for its pointedness. However, the reason you are getting this type of reaction (not just from me) is because your video dwells on factors that nobody but you even believes exist, and which I think even you would agree are rare/marginal issues. You can have any opinion you want. But, most people making this choice are weighing reliability (revolver) vs capacity and ease of target practice (SA).
wombat8881 1 week ago
@brian47374 Ok, we're in a dream world. I just tried to fire my revolver through my pocket but it wouldn't fire because I had a bunch of coins stuck in it. I cleared those out, but then the lint blocked the cylinder. I cleared that out, but all of my bullets were duds. I reloaded, fired, and my coat burst into an inferno. I am posting this from the afterlife. I wish I had listened to you. Meanwhile, on earth. I see SA FTF frequently. I have NEVER seen these issues your friend is plagued by.
wombat8881 1 week ago
@wombat8881 Look, I NEVER said that the SAME friend had ALL of these issues. I SAID that I have seen them over the years in classes, friends, people telling me these things in NUMEROUS ways. I'm sorry that you don't have a life and get out much and talk to others who do shoot a lot because you might actually hear some crazy stories. Truth is stranger than fiction. Now, I'm done with your nonsense that isn't going to change a THING about anything.
brian47374 4 days ago
@brian47374 Dude, calm down. This video is presented as helping people decide about revolvers, not as "crazy stories." If somebody tries to fire a SA, what are the odds of a jam? Maybe 1-5% If somebody tries to fire a revolver, what are the odds of a "jam"? Even taking your "crazy stories" at face value, 0.01%? So how is this info helpful for people making this decision? If you don't post BS, you won't be called on it.
wombat8881 4 days ago
@wombat8881 I've bought ammo that all of the rounds were duds when I was filming the basics handgun video. In fact, I had several boxes of ammo that were struck and didn't fire. I put them in an autoloader and they fired fine. So, if you find yourself in a situation where the ammo isn't any good or it doesn't fire, you can keep pulling the trigger and get the same results--NOTHING.
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 So Brian, you don't feel good about carrying any handgun because they really aren't a great tool. (in your own words) What do you recommend then as a great tool to carry?
jajmonSW38 1 week ago
@jajmonSW38 I would MUCH rather depend upon my knife to resolve the situation. It doesn't jam unless it is stuck in a person, and it makes nice openings in the body that are hard to fix (just ask my wife who is a surgical nurse). You can cut tendons and ligaments that immobilize immediately. I can have it in hand without being noticed.
brian47374 4 days ago
@brian47374 all your rounds are dud? hmm.m.another one in a billion circumstance. there is more likelihood of seeing the Bigfoot than that happening. speedloader make reloading much easier. six, seven or eight rounds go in all at the same time. you just need practice. it's the same with any auto. practice makes perfect.
pinoywheelgunner 5 days ago
@pinoywheelgunner Yeah, ok, one in a billion chance. Obviously you don't shoot much. I've bought A LOT of ammo over the past 3 years that has been bad. All manufactures. So, it is NOT a one in a billion odds. You are NOT going to speed reload ANY gun when someone is stabbing/cutting you or shooting at you within 30 feet. Get out and TRAIN for crying out loud. Repeat after me, "My gun is NOT my salvation". Say it again and again.
brian47374 4 days ago
@brian47374 my gun is not ALWAYS my salvation, but it CAN be, depending on whether it fires or jams. the only FTF i've seen was
pinoywheelgunner 4 days ago
with reloads. i won't be using them for defense, unless they're all i got.
pinoywheelgunner 4 days ago
I read the comments before posting mine. I Understand where you are coming from. I carry a Taurus 651 for my personal protection. I have spent days and money firing, drawing and using my firearm to get better. With that said, I agree that in a high intense situation, life on the line, five or six shots may not be enough....but if your that scared or nervous 17 wont be enough either. It all comes down to training and confidence to score "Critical Hits". I liked your video and the points you made
averagejoetactical1 3 weeks ago
@averagejoetactical1 Thanks! It means a lot to me.
brian47374 3 weeks ago
on a brighter note. we are on the same team. we carry,we defend,we train,and we believe. so we are friends. After the smoke clears, NOBODY has all the answers.We just train to do the best we can with what we have and hope Murphy isn't watching and luck shines on us. Every situation is different,dynamic and shitty.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
I also agree completely with your defensive tactics.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
By the way. back on point. My S&W Model 10,and 65 and my Ruger SP101 are more reliable than any autoloader you own. They are more reliable than my Glock 19, glock 30, S&W M&P .45 Kimber warrior, and les baer with caspian slide. period. That is the news. True Story.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago 5
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES A single shot pistol is more reliable then a revolver. The amount of reliability a revolver has is negligible over a semi auto. Police and military agencies in the US and all around the world wouldn't have dumped their revolvers if semi autos weren't reliable enough.
esh325 3 weeks ago
@esh325 I shoot hundreds of rounds a month, every month, and have been doing it for almost 20 years. If you DON'T then all you are doing is hashing an opinion, which is based on nothing of your own experience. The reliability aspect being "negligible" difference is bullshit. I own many models of both, and shoot them extensively in tactical training and competition. Autoloader malfunctions are part of the deal, it happens. period. It is a rarity with a revolver.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I never said they didn't malfunction, of course they malfunction more then revolvers. I've had autoloaders fail, and never had a revolver fail. A modern semi auto is more then reliable enough in my experience. Hell, one of the Hi Powers I was shooting would jam every last round. Even with the one round that failed, I'm still at better odds then somebody using a revolver.
esh325 3 weeks ago
@esh325 "Than" is the word your looking for not "then", and you pretty much contradicted yourself throughout. I'll give you an English grammar lesson as well as a firearms discussion if you would like.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES So you're going to nit pick my grammar and avoid what I'm talking about?
esh325 3 weeks ago
@esh325 Being fluent in your native language may be important, and you didn't say anything for me to pay any attention towards. This may be a hobby for you, or perhaps you are a amateur enthusiast. I work in this field professionally so I don't think I need to worry about your opinion if you dont shoot as much as I do or have as much experience.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 weeks ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Because you're avoiding the argument.
esh325 3 weeks ago
@esh325 Go sit down and play your xbox. There is no argument.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 weeks ago
@esh325 and @brian47374 SWAT teams have been using the S&W TR8 .357 magnum.. no double feed, no stovepipe, no need for a tap rack bang. with a misfire just another trigger pull.no slide to contact anything. and 8 rounds too. and i dont think it will jam with lint or coins at a crucial moment.
pinoywheelgunner 1 week ago
@pinoywheelgunner I have not seen any SWAT team use a revolver. So, I don't know where you are getting this information from. Maybe it is a Mayberry USA SWAT Team that is still driving 1970's cars too. I wish I was getting paid, but there are other good guns out there too. NONE of them are perfect, and I believe that I did state that revolvers are good tools. I PERSONALLY don't care for them. Believe in whatever YOU want to believe in. Handgun rounds are NOT real effective.
brian47374 1 week ago
That is why I don't put much faith in them. If you want to believe that 6 shots is enough, that is fine. But, it may not be. Unless you hit the brain or upper spinal cord, physiologically there is NO REASON for the person to become immediately incapacitated. So, are you going to drop someone on the spot? HIGHLY unlikely. So, all of this debate over revolvers, etc. is really nonsense IMHO.
brian47374 1 week ago
@brian47374 You said they're "good tools" and then brainstormed comical reasons to say they're not. Lint, coins?? I will be struck by a meteor before I have a revolver fail to fire for those reasons. Gee, let me get the coin jar and pour it in the pocket holding my revolver in case there's a 0.0001% chance it'll cause a problem. Since I love keeping expensive metal things in the pocket with my coins, right? Have any of these things you're warning about happened in recorded human history?
wombat8881 1 week ago 2
@wombat8881 Who is the official record keeper? Seriously, you expect things to be recorded in order to "accept" them as possibilities and things that have happened. I guess you can volunteer for the record keeper. You guys are the funny ones. You see, the more you are at the range, the more things you will see. That is a FACT. Not everything is caught on video people. Not everything is documented.
brian47374 1 week ago
@pinoywheelgunner Most if not all of them carry semi autos.
esh325 1 week ago
My comment is not meant to insult by any means. I merely address your comments as flippant because of your overt intention to disregard someones experience as "squat". I have been shot at, been stabbed, drawn my weapon in civilian defense. Used my weapon in military application and have been in uncounted numbers of physical confrontation involving use of unarmed,chemical, and impact levels of force. If you have not then you have no reason to assume anything.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Hey man, I'm not offended. I hope that you aren't. But I don't "fight" because I don't have rules. Therefore it will not take place. A shooting contest is just that. It has nothing to do with the real world. I agree, I don't have all the answers. I never will. That is why I train daily to come up with better answers than what has been presented to me in the past. That is WHY we train people. Yes, every situation is different.
brian47374 1 month ago
blah blah blah. You got no scars, you dont work in the field. No law enforcement experience,No combat time, no bodyguard experience, no contractor experience, no bouncer experience. Just one more instructor with an opinion. Tex Grebner makes videos as well. The ability to make a video doesn't validate the content.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago 2
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HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
You make a lot of claims here. Other than anecdotal evidence, what are you basing your opinions on? Has there ever been a single case of a coin stopping a revolver from working? Has anyone ever set their clothes on fire shooting from their pocket? Does a typical civilian defending himself shoot 10 rounds or more? I have read the NRA's Armed Citizen reports for decades and have never seen that. Please provide sources so I can read them and learn more.
happyending3000 1 month ago
@happyending3000 There are none. He is just being different to try a different marketing angle. The lessons learned by experienced real world shooters from the late 1800s all the way to ww2 and modern times dont count when your trying to get a paycheck.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES WHAT? A different angle simply to make money. Obviously you are wrong. We teach things differently because of the fact that most of what is taught DOES NOT WORK as advertised. Keep drinking the kool-aid people. Like I said, there IS a difference between LE, Military, & civilian encounters. But, people like to hang on to what they know instead of learning something new & better. That's called EGO.
brian47374 1 month ago
@happyending3000 Who knows? I'm just going by what COULD happen. Like the paper test around the cylinder & shooting & the paper caught on fire. No, typically total shots fired are between 3 & 8. That comes from my guys on SWAT. Maybe they are wrong... ;) I do not encourage you to try shooting through your clothing to see if it catches on fire. I would think that a leather jacket (winter) would be more difficult to catch on fire than say a nylon blend.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 The video should be called "the case for semi-autos over revolvers" or something. Pros and cons implies a fairly neutral point of view. No, your clothes won't catch on fire (and if they do, it's presumably worth it if you were willing to shoot at someone - it's not like your clothes would turn into a bonfire in a split second). I have never heard of someone carrying a revolver in the same pocket as coins. I have never heard of lint causing reliability issues.
wombat8881 3 weeks ago
Revolver CON - capacity limitations/ firepower. That is the only con.
Pros: simplistically fast, utterly reliable, more versatile in selective loadings/ better case head support for hot loads/ far more bullet type compatibility, shorter learning curve for gross motor skill ingrainment , inherently more intrinsic accuracy. single action trigger break far superior to anything other than the hightest cost single action autos, no safeties/levers gizmos to cause confustion under duress.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES O yea and Wyatt Earp, Jesse James, Doc Holliday, and Clint Fucking Eastwood carried wheelguns, not Autoloaders. So that may be the most important reason.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Everyone is entitled to THEIR OPINION. Like I said, I NEVER said don't buy a revolver. If you want to bank your life on them, FINE. But don't act like they ARE superior to a good autoloader. Because that just isn't true. We've ALL seen cases where revolvers & autoloaders have failed, etc. I've listed plenty of things I've seen & experienced with revolvers. That's exactly why I don't own one NOW.
brian47374 1 month ago
To think that 6 rounds is enough to end a fight the way most people teach using a pistol in a life or death situation is foolish. Very few people fall down & die on the spot. And I seriously doubt that you are going to land all of your rounds, if any, & you wish you had more. It is better to have the extra rounds & not need them to need them & not have them. There is nothing further that can be said about reliability, etc. It IS personal preference. End of story...
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 Ever seen that? Ever been in an ER and taken a report from a gunshot wound victim. End of story is that you have no experience outside of what you have been taught. None of it is first hand. FBI statistics will show that the vast majority of defensive handgun incidents are concluded within 3-5 rounds with either incapacitation, death, or flight. Much of what you have said is contradictory. If most incidents are within 10 feet (which is correct) reloading is not gonna happen.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES in addition the extra capacity in the auto surely is an asset as capacity is a limitation of the revolver,but using the tueller drill as an example it makes no difference if you have 4 mags on your belt, you are not likely gonna access them. Using your own argument against you. If I "try to draw from concelament" you can close 10 feet and engage with an edged weapon before I can complete my draw. Ok. So if I use my non firing hand to fend while I draw I may get 3-4 rounds off.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES those 4 rounds will either incapactitate you, or you may cut your way through my one handed defense and incapacitate me with your edged weapon. In that CQB environment where the weapon is in contact range The autoloader has a far better chance of malfunctioning than a revolver. If you include the aspect that some insist on carrying condition three (ridiculous) their weapons are already disabled. Do I want a revolver on the battlefield? Nope. For CCW in civvy world? yep.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 most people agree that there are strentghs and weaknesses to revolver and auto. there would be no problem if glock isnt so aggressive in their marketing strategy to hire someone like you. dont bash anybody. the superior weapon is the WEAPON the shooter likes, and practices with.
pinoywheelgunner 1 week ago
He's discounting that a revolver is normally chambered in much more powerful calibers, speed loaders, and that not everyone starts shooting rounds like they would a semiautomatic. If you know your gun your reaction shot will be more reliable than he's suspecting. With a 357Magnum one shot is really all you need, it causes way more damage than any 9mm. I may not conceal carry but I do know ballistics.
flyfishingking200 1 month ago
@flyfishingking200 WHAT?! Revolvers are normally chambered in more powerful calibers? The majority of revolvers that I see people carry are.38's. You only need one shot with a .357? Lol... Yeah, good luck with your one shot theory. Obviously you haven't read a thing that I have posted here. Unless you hit the brain or upper spinal cord, immediate incapacitation isn't going to happen. It is doubtful you will hit either of those.
brian47374 1 month ago
You can get 9mm P+ ammo that is pretty close to .357. Ballistically handgun rounds don't penetrate enough to cause the necessary damage to take someone out. That's the problem with handguns. That's why you should NEVER rely on them to save your life. Case and point.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 that is not correct either. Over penetration is one of the primary concerns. What 9mm anything round approaches the ballistic performance of a 125 or 157 grain .357 mag loaded to 1400-1500 feet per second with a soft lead semi wadcutter or LSWHC ? Ever seen a bear stopped with a 9mm? I know guys who will hunt ELK with a .357 mag.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Okay… a standard 9mm 115 is around 1100-1200 fps. Found this on my box of Pow’R Ball 9mm P+ 110 grain 1475 fps. I’ve also seen as high as 1950 by Magsafe. The highest velocity on a .357 I’ve seen is 1975. The “average .357 magnum round is around 1450-1650, with most of what I’ve seen is on the lower end of that number AND below. I got that information from ballistics101 site.
brian47374 1 month ago
All I am saying is that you can get what I would consider “decently close” with 9mm P+ to a .357 Magnum VELOCITY. Would I use a .357 for concealed carry? NO! We can argue calibers for the next 20 yrs & honestly handgun rounds are really ineffective for self-defense use because of the lack of penetration. You would not be so “lucky” to get a one shot kill with a .357 in a civilian self-defense encounter. Would I carry 9mm P+ ammo? Possibly if I saw more tests on it.
brian47374 1 month ago
No bullet works EVERY time other than a .50 cal rifle. There is no bullet in existence for handguns that will convince me "that is the round" to carry. Because the human body is resilient & can put up with more than we think.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 Why do you insist on approaching as if you are teaching me something. I do this for a living. I have years and years of seeing what violence does to people. In the hospital, in an ambulance, on the street, on the battlefield... so save it. You punch paper and then make videos of your opinion, that isnt fact. Your opinion is great, but dont get on a platform and preach when others don't agree. IF you dont want argument, dont make videos.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Hang on… It’s going to be a rough ride! “Why do you insist on approaching as if you are teaching me something.” Well, because from what you say, your approach isn’t realistic or practical from a civilian aspect. I am preaching against what 99% of instructors teach. I EXPECT an argument. In fact, I LOVE a good argument especially when it comes from people who teach stuff that is likely to get people hurt or killed. However, your experience does not mean squat in the grand
brian47374 1 month ago
scheme of things. FYI, my wife is a surgical nurse in Indianapolis and sees stabbings & gunshots on a regular basis. So, my information is as good as first hand. She tells me that knife wounds are almost always worse than gunshot wounds. Don’t come here & TRY to bash what I’m saying or doing just because you have “experience”, etc. It doesn’t make it so just because you say it. A rocket scientist probably hasn’t been an astronaut but he still knows how to make the rocket get to the moon.
brian47374 1 month ago
So your “experience” point is really invalid in my book. & I will continue to tell others that as well & I really point that out in the Reality vs The Matrix Handgun Training video series. I’ve humbled people in class that were COPS, Special Forces, Trainers, competition shooters, & students of other big name schools. These people had experience & I taught them something they didn’t know. And that was the APPROACH to the fight is far different for civilians. This means EVERYTHING in your tactic
brian47374 1 month ago
“FBI statistics will show that the vast majority of defensive handgun incidents are concluded within 3-5 rounds with either incapacitation, death, or flight. Much of what you have said is contradictory.” Really? I take what I say mostly from the FBI’s report. Most people DON’T die from being shot. If so, there would be A LOT more deaths than people living. So, since 3-5 rounds is the AVERAGE doesn’t mean that it WILL be for you. And don’t forget the FREEZE factor in a fight.
brian47374 1 month ago
But most people don’t teach that either. The FBI’s report says that on AVERAGE, you can only expect 1 or 2 solid torso hits. Does that mean you WILL hit them twice? NO. Does it mean that you won’t hit them 100%? NO. It means ON AVERAGE. So, which of those torso shots do you EXPECT to take them immediately out of the fight? Neither one, or any of them that don’t hit the brain!
brian47374 1 month ago
I could care less about what Clint or Masaad says. While I respect them, I don’t agree with MOST of what they say or teach. I think that it is really BS & that is WHY I do what I do. Go tell “daddy” that I’ve disgraced the holy grail teachings and I should be banned as an instructor. You should defend what you teach although I disagree with practically everything you’ve said. It is nothing personal but I’m tired of people like you & most defensive handgun trainers
brian47374 1 month ago
(DHT) teaching things that are not likely to work in civilian conflicts. That is WHY I teach what I teach. Just because you have “use of force experience” means exactly what? That you know what you are doing? That you did the right thing, or just got lucky. Now, your ego will tell you that you know what you are doing. But the fact is you may have just gotten lucky. WHO KNOWS? You most certainly don’t.
brian47374 1 month ago
You will defend what you teach, and I will defend what I teach. Just because I don’t have “combat” experience doesn’t mean squat my friend (go back & read comment about rocket scientist). So just because someone is a COP for 20 yrs doesn’t mean a thing to me other than they’ve seen some nasty stuff. Do they have something to teach me? Sure, but I’m confident it isn’t how to shoot. What I teach is pretty much what I’ve trained on in my own time and have found to be the best tactics for
brian47374 1 month ago
most situations. I don’t agree with what I was taught in martial arts, and that is only because I didn’t just drink the kool-aid.
I’ve seen Krav & Filipino knife arts & I’m not at all impressed. In fact, most of what I’ve seen will get you injured or killed. Yeah, Krav is better than most things, but not enough to really “endorse” it as a combat system. I’ve trained veterans from all branches my friend and NONE of them have said anything negative about what I do.
brian47374 1 month ago
So, your OPINION is irrelevant to me because I am CONSTANTLY getting emails, phone calls, etc. about how good of a job I’m doing at exposing things. Am I going to win a popularity contest speaking out against the crap most people are teaching? NO. But, all I care about is those people who want their minds freed from the BS that people like you with huge egos who have “all this experience” and think they know it all.
brian47374 1 month ago
You & other defensive handgun trainers paint the pretty picture syndrome for your students in that you will be able to neutralize the threat(s) with your handgun, when just the opposite is true. And, maybe you need to watch our video on reaction times because you probably won’t have time to parry an attack unless you know the rituals of attack. I have yet to see any instructor teach them, including any of mine.
brian47374 1 month ago
I do this for a living and I learn things EVERY DAY. Maybe you should let go of your ego and learn something here. But because you are a trainer & you seem to have “experience”, there is nothing more for you to learn. So, if “experience” always trumps someone like me who doesn’t have “combat” experience, then why are soldiers and LEO’s dying on the job? Oh wait, because they have had the training you teach and other instructors teach and it gets them killed.
brian47374 1 month ago
They believed in the misinformation they were fed & now they are dead. What stats don’t tell us is how much training the person had, their mindset, what ACTUALLY happened, did they react too soon or too late. MAYBE what they did was what they were taught by some “defensive handgun” instructor and when they shot at or even hit the threat and they will still getting stabbed or shot they were thinking to themselves… “What went wrong? This wasn’t what I was taught!”
brian47374 1 month ago
Most civilians who are shot LIVE and/or at least make it to the ER. Honestly, people want to feel good about the use of their gun. Most martial arts training & defensive handgun training is feel good training. “In that CQB environment where the weapon is in contact range The autoloader has a far better chance of malfunctioning than a revolver. “ WRONG AGAIN… not at all if you know how to defend that gun AND don’t use typical DHT. It has the SAME chance of malfunctioning as a revolver.
brian47374 1 month ago
BTW, I have a personal range that is about the size of a football field just behind my house & I can shoot 180 degrees. I train on it on a regular basis. And, just because you fire shots doesn’t mean the training is realistic. Just because people have been teaching things for years (which is yielding poor results or the deaths of shooting victims WOULD BE much higher), doing the same thing & expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Like I said, from what you’ve posted, etc.,
brian47374 1 month ago
I really don’t think that you actually know the differences in civilian, LE, or military conflicts. Let’s face it, your sole purpose here is to try & drive business your way because you are “Mr. Know It ALL” with so much experience & ego that you just HAVE to be right. Brother, if you had something to teach me & it was realistic, then I’d be more than happy to listen to you.
brian47374 1 month ago
But, odds are you know pretty much what just about every other martial arts & DHT teach & I’ve been there done that & I think that for the most part, it is worthless stuff. Can you teach the basics of handgun shooting & safety?Probably. Just about any instructor can. When it comes to the realistic application of unarmed & armed combatives in a fight, I’d say you are with the majority which is not something that I agree with.
brian47374 1 month ago
I KNEW when we started this business & speak out against MOST instructors I would meet people like you. I love a good debate. It brings me business! But when you can put gloves on & spar, it IS a sport. If it was so effective, then you wouldn’t be able to spar because people would be getting seriously hurt. I just present information & people have to decide for themselves what they want to do.
brian47374 1 month ago
If they want to feel good about using a gun, they will probably come to you. If they want to know how to deploy a gun into a fight in a realistic manner, we have better solutions. If people want to feel good & deceive themselves, hey, it’s THEIR lives. We are looking for those who want to be freed from the Matrix type teachings & learn the real risks involved & methods that will increase their odds of survival.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 I'll put money down that I can outshoot you in any environment in any condition,and if you want to continue with the insults. I'll make it public and wager $1,000.00 followed by an unarmed submission match to be video'd and posted pitting your school against mine. My best shooters and fighters against your's.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 I dont give a rat's ass about business. My training group is non profit. My JOB is in the field.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 You can come find out any time you want. On the mat or on the range.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Like I said, I don't do sports so you won't find me on a mat "competing" or putting gloves on. And you don't know my experience either. Some of it is on my website. Just because I don't have "combat" experience means squat. Like I said, you have all the answers AND a very huge ego.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 Your ego is what causes you to make videos of your opinions. Where do you get this sport thing from? I teach combatives. I am a former combatives instructor from Ft.Bragg NC. Where I served on the combatives instruction team for the JFK special warfare center and school teaching current 7th special forces group personnel and q course students. Gloves dont exist.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 the experience is the validation.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 I think the reason why you're getting so much flac is because you're saying all this stuff about revolvers, but you aren't proving any of these things, or showing sources at least.
esh325 3 weeks ago
You would be impressed if your dick was in the dirt from it.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 You dont have any clue what I teach. Where it comes from or what it entails.Anyone reading this post will understand the arrogance you spew because you will argue on any front about shit you have no experience in. This was simply about the reliability of a revolver and your opinion against that. Which is a clownshoe opinion. Yet you deviate to ballistics, use of force, someones professional experience,and your distaste for trainers far more in the know that you are. I'm done. Bored.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Thank god you're done. You are really a pain in the butt with all the BS talk.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 Don't be sad. Just be glad you can make money and not actually have to fight to prove it. Else you might not be so arrogant. You know why I raise pitbulls? They don't bark, they bite. Had you any law enforcement experience or military perhaps your teeth would have some mileage rather than just a loud raspy bark.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES The FREEZE factor also comes from the “Does this stuff really work as advertised” doubt kicking in during a real fight. Competition shooting is good for MAYBE 10% of confrontations. Stop acting like it is all that. I don’t care that you were an instructor in the Military… means zip in the civilian world. I’ve seen some of the hand-to-hand stuff that we teach our military… I hate to tell you that it isn’t all that either. Again, I’ve trained guys that have been through
brian47374 1 month ago
S F training, etc. & I just sit back & laugh with some of the moves they’ve shown me. I don’t care about anyone’s experience because it doesn’t mean squat to me. One thing that you fail to realize is that 2 of my staff guys are on SWAT & have various martial arts training as well. We don’t teach sport oriented stuff that is commonly taught as “combat” styles. We teach things that are simple, effective, realistic and practical. You see, just because I don’t have “combat” experience, doesn’t
brian47374 1 month ago
mean I don’t have them close by & talk to them often. I happen to be the guy who does this full-time & doesn’t mind being on camera. But, even if they were the ones on camera it wouldn’t change what we are teaching. So, where does that leave us now? Back to what I was saying about most martial arts & DHT being crap. It does take a lot to impress me because of my years of training. I am open to learning new things, but the principles of most systems are not solid.
brian47374 1 month ago
BTW, I don't play by rules. That's why I don't get on the mat. It is simply a game & thinking otherwise is kidding yourself. In order to win, I would have to kill you. There's no contest in a real fight. You fight to survive, not get points. I don't play the BS game of I could have this or that. I crush things & get the job done. So, say what you want, believe what you want, because in the end, it doesn't really matter to me.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 which is not something you would accomplish. The reason you dont get on the mat is bacause you dont want your ass kicked. It is easier to rach theory and not have to prove anything than it is to pressure test even the smallest aspect. I know you are WAY to deadly to fight on a mat. Just like you are way to dangerous to prove your speed and marksmanship on a competitive range. paper dragon.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 I have seen immediate incapacitation from a single round from a supposed sub caliber weapon. I have seen an man leave AMA outpatient from a .45ACP to the throat. Quit with the lessons, I have far more insight into this equation than you do. You haven't SEEN or taken part in any of this. Your just passin what you your opinion is based on OTHER people's research that may or may not be valid Goddamn youtube. You dont even have a cool beard like Chris Costa, but then again he can shoot.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 The "freeze" factor? OOOOOOOOOOO yea, that little stress based reactionary gap / Ooda Loop problem that you have never actually experienced but teach about? No I didn't forget about it. In fact I have some scars from a knife that will prove that it is real. Competitive shooting also helps build the neural pathways to help reduce that gap as well,but you dont do that either because that isnt tacticool enough for you I imagine because it "isnt real". Just like MMA isnt.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 not likely.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
That is a really poetic anecdote. I would rather have the astronaut backing me up. Theory and books break down when the blood starts hittn the floor.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 Of course you wouldn't carry a .357 mag. Because you have seen with your own eyes if it is effective or not. The 125 SJHP .357 magnum has the highest stop percentage of recorded handgun projectile use in the US. That IS a fact. Nothing in your auto loader inventory approaches the terminal ballistics of a .44 magnum. I handload .38 special to velocities greater than standard pressure 9mm not even to mention handload pressures of 158 grain .357 mag.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES we can argue ballistics all day. What the revo vs. auto loader argument boils down to is CAPACITY/FIREPOWER, and in that I concede. The auto wins. It does NOT however win in the reliability department. This is not a secret. Failures to feed,failures to eject,double feeds,stovepipes,extractor wear and breakage,magazine failure, bullet incompatibility issues etc... simply dont exist with a revolver. The mechanical failure issues of a revolver are few and far between.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 I get data from MY BENCH not someone elses data that I regurgitate. This isnt secret information. All of the projectile ballistics are closing in on each other in modern loadings. It is almost a good assumption to say that they all work effectively now. 9mm has closed the gap and is a damn good stopper now. The .357 always has been. It is proven and trusted where the 9mm has not always been. Hell the .38spl in the right load is a good stopper it is just tossed off as "old"
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 as opposed the number of people that carry 9mm which is damn near the ballistic equivalent?
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 Personally I carry .357 magnum, .44 Special, or .45 ACP. Everyday,everywhere, no exceptions.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
To say that a "well made" autoloader is mechanically more reliable than any given revolver is simply a logical error. Fewer moving parts and fewer small parts leave (you guessed it) fewer spaces that foreign matter can interfere with. While this gentleman is knowledgeable, he lost credibility with this comment. Regardless of your preference - on a strictly mechanical basis - the reduction in ways Murphy's Law applies makes revolvers mechanically superior. Again, it's a choice. But, do the math.
XeroJaeger 1 month ago
@XeroJaeger So WHERE does it say that fewer moving parts MAKES it more reliable? And, the revolver having the HUGE gap between the cylinder and the firing pin makes it VERY vulnerable to malfunctioning. Not to mention that I’ve personally seen the ejector rods come out of revolvers because they came loose. It ALL boils down to ANY GUN CAN & WILL MALFUNCTION.
brian47374 1 month ago
Okay, I don’t have a revolver handy (bc I don't own one), but let’s take a look at the moving parts. Revolver: Trigger, hammer, firing pin, cylinder, ejection rod which is what the cylinder rotates on. That makes 5 parts. Autoloader: trigger, hammer, firing pin, slide. That is 4 parts. And, they are pretty much contained in a manner which dirt, etc. should not affect them like a revolver.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 "Okay, I don’t have a revolver handy (bc I don't own one)," so that makes you an expert on revolvers and their tactical flaws. I just love the 'con' comment that discharging a revolver in your pocket will cause your close to ignite,,,and an auto won't do the same? STUPID Get a revolver, learn it, use it before you make uninformed comments about pros/cons. Oh you forgot to mention the one thing necessary to make an auto work as far as parts - A MAGAZINE - drink kool-aid
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@jajmonSW38 I never said I haven't owned one, I said I DON'T own one. You ASSume that I don't own one so I don't know what I'm talking about. ASSuming that I haven't owned one doesn't mean that I haven't shot plenty of them. I can shoot my Glock without a magazine in it. Can you shoot a revolver without the cylinder? Try placing a piece of paper around the cylinder & overlap it to the barrel without going to the muzzle & see if the paper doesn't catch on fire. It's MORE LIKELY to happen
brian47374 1 month ago
with a revolver. Obviously you favor revolvers & that is fine. But I've STUDIED them & I don't own one bc of their many flaws. Continue to drink the kool-aid... it's YOUR life.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 real nice come back about shooting a revolver w/o a cylinder vs not having a magazine to shoot an auto. LAME Go ahead and shoot your ONE round in your glock w/o a mag. (I can do the same with my SW auto.) My cylinder is attached to my frame and I have my 6 rounds, like I'm going to go around w/o my cylinder. Really, you made that comment and the other BS about paper around the cylinder,,,real good informed advice as it pertains to real world.
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@brian47374 you said you don't own one.
Read your own words
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@jajmonSW38 Dear Key Board Commando (KBC)…Obviously you can’t read what I said so I’m not going to waste my time repeating what I said. I don’t NEED the magazine for the gun to shoot. That was my point. The cylinder HAS to be in place for a revolver to shoot. That’s my point. The point I made about the paper around the cylinder was in reference to your clothes catching on fire. I’ve seen a number of things with revolvers. Including but not limited to:
brian47374 1 month ago
cylinder not rotating, thus preventing the gun from firing. Ejection rods come loose and caused the cylinder to not rotate & the cylinder actually fall out. Not real good in a fight! I’ve seen ejection rods come loose preventing the cylinder from opening for reloading. Also, I’ve seen hinges that came loose & caused the cylinder to fall out. Not to forget that I’ve seen cylinders move forward enough to where the gun wouldn’t fire.
brian47374 1 month ago
If revolvers are indeed what you believe they are, then WHY aren’t COPS & Military using them? I mean, if 6 shots is truly enough to incapacitate a threat, then WHY the switch? I don’t believe that Law Enforcement & Military get it right all of the time, but it only makes sense to me WHY they would go from revolvers to reliable autoloaders.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 6 shots are enough. sorry to disappoint you, but military hi-cap m16s lost to crude zipguns used by the VC. they needed better tactics, not more bullets.
pinoywheelgunner 1 week ago
@brian47374 I can read what you said,,,"Can you shoot a revolver without the cylinder? " Well no you can't. But your other words "The cylinder HAS to be in place for a revolver to shoot. That’s my point." Can you read what I said? It's obvious that we disagree with your negative posture on revolvers vs autos and that in your opinion that if you don't have anything less than 30rnds - your dead because your in some civilian street world shoot out. peace out,done w/you. good luck
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@brian47374 I absolutely agree that any gun can/will fail. But the claim was made in this video that a well made semi will perform better than any given revolver. THAT is the claim I'm refuting. The claim was made with no substantiating evidence other than, "I've seen it." Be that as it may, any mechanical device with fewer moving and/or complex parts has a statistically lower failure possibility than one with more. I apologize if I was unclear in my first post. Disrespect was not intended.
XeroJaeger 1 month ago
XeroJaeger Thanks for the apology, but I didn't take it as disrespect. I do have pretty thick skin nonetheless. All I am saying is that I would place my Glock against ANY revolver out there and that under ALL possible conditions and most of the time, will be as reliable if not more reliable than most revolvers. One can believe in whatever type they want, in the end, the gun isn't going to save your life. Your tactics and mindset are more important than the gun you carry.
brian47374 1 month ago
@XeroJaeger I agree. As one can see from the comments from this video and Brian backpedaling and trying to defend his 'expert' revolver experience as to basically they are inferior weapon for SELF defense and not what you would want to use in a 'street' fight where the flipping world is trying to 'hurt you' and you need massive rounds, well carry an AR15 and 10 30rnd mags. Brian
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@brian47374 I have shot competition for 20 years including military service in combat. I have never seen a revolver go down in action pistol, USPSA, or IDPA. I have seen everything from 1911s (quite frequently) and striker guns to include Glock go down in almost every match in some capacity or not. I have NEVER had a wheelgun malfunction in 24 years of shooting. I have had dozens of Glocks and many of them have malfunction from FTF,FTFr, and FTE. Your stats are way off, and not accurate.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Competition shooting & civilian combat shooting are two TOTALLY different things. Competition shooting you are not on your back lying in the mud, snow, etc. There is NO chance of your gun being knocked out of your hand or your holster filling up with mud from being drug through the mud before you can get your gun out. People, it really isn’t a hard concept to understand. A revolver has exposed parts. MANY more of the parts are exposed than an autoloader.
brian47374 1 month ago
The problem is that too many people THINK that IF they are attacked it is going to go “as planned” or even half way as planned. When you are fighting for YOUR life, it isn’t going to be what you pictured or trained for. AGAIN, a revolver is not infallible, and I will tell you that it IS more vulnerable to the elements than a good autoloader such as a Glock.
brian47374 1 month ago
Sure, if any gun is not cared for it can & will malfunction. Do you know how many rounds those FTE were a result of? If someone is a competition shooter they are probably going to be firing A LOT more than the average person. Therefore, if they don’t care for their guns as well as they should, things will happen like you mentioned. Not to mention that I CAN prevent you from ever firing your revolver pretty easily.
brian47374 1 month ago
If you believe that you are going to get more than 20% of your rounds on target AND eliminate the threat, I’d be more than happy to have you in a force on force class & prove your THEORY wrong of how many bullets you will get on target & that I will still be in the fight putting a serious hurt on you. Please don’t take any of this personal. But until you have a REAL understanding of what I am saying, AND, you have trained with someone attacking you WITHOUT rules, you really don’t
brian47374 1 month ago
have much credible input here. I am trying to give people good information for them to make a decision about what they choose to try & defend their life. Just because you have competition experience & even military experience doesn’t mean squat in the civilian combat world. I mean no disrespect there, but maybe you should watch our Reality vs The Matrix Handgun Training video series & learn the difference.
brian47374 1 month ago
I’ve seen people with revolvers in class have as many issues as some autoloaders, if not more issues. Like I said, I WILL take my chances with a good autoloader ANY day of the week over ANY revolver. But hey, that's just MY opinion.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 please elaborate on the 'many' issues, if not more issues, than autos. You blow all this smoke and want people to drink your kool-aid. A revolver is reliable as the sun rises in the east. I bet MY life on a revolver. Was at the range today w/my auto, pulled the trigger, no BANG, WTF, eject the round to fire next rnd. If that had been a 'situation', I wasted time clearing chamber vs pulling the trigger again and bang w/revolver. Your video lacks credibility.
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@brian47374 "civilian combat world" wow, where do you live? wait, you train where people are trying to hurt you,,bunker mentality, how realistic is that - "credible input" you don't own a revolver - no kool-aid intake here.
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@jajmonSW38 You really don't have a clue do you? You should probably move along now because you are REALLY out there with your comments & you obviously cannot comprehend the simplicity of what I am saying. So, since you have PROVEN the fact that you don't know much, if anything, & can't understand what I'm saying, you are wasting my time & I am not going to argue with someone who doesn't have a grip on reality. I LIVE this stuff EVERY DAY. Goodbye...
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 good luck to you and your business, I disagree in your posture. peace out
jajmonSW38 1 month ago
@jajmonSW38 indeed.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 Are you a combat veteran? I am. Frankly I dont need a lesson in the difference. I own and operate a defensive tactics school, and will challenge your revolver theory all day long. I will run it in any climate, any condition, with ANY ammo type. Try running wadcutters through your Glock and see how long it runs with out a failure to feed. Try running your Glock up to a 1700 feet per second 158 semi wadcutter and see if it doesn't blow your chamber apart.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES What does a combat veteran have to do with any of this? Most people don't know the difference between civilian, LE, & Military conflicts. So because you own & operate a tactical school means...? I've had people from ALL walks of life train with us & never saw the difference until they took a course from us. Anyone who RELIES on the handgun to neutralize the threat in a civilian conflict while on the street is sadly mistaken.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 Now you just being ignorant. Dont preach stuff you have never done. Have you ever used force? Ever been in an actual firefight? Ever shoot thousands of rounds through a revo to justify your opinion or are you just spewing what someone else taught you. Blah,Blah,Blah. You made a ignorant comment and called out on it. Why don't you spew that shit to Massad Ayoob or Clint Smith.. I'll forward you the email. see what they think about your opinion.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 In addition you didn't read what I said. Regardless of the always present " competition is different from combat" (which usually comes from guys that have no experience in either) line. If they go down in comp how will they fare in less than optimal environments? If you make a video that is incorrect expect to get called on it. Any weapon can malfunction, but reliability leans toward the wheelgun. This is not a secret.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I haven't gone down and the video is NOT incorrect. Only in your mind. Just because you THINK that a revolver IS more reliable, that's YOUR opinion. Competition shooting IS different from real life situations for civilians. I have trained numerous competition shooters & they have seen the difference. Competition shooting is a SPORT. And MOST things that are sport oriented, just like with martial arts, are NOT combat effective.
brian47374 1 month ago
No, old timers want to hang on to that mindset. Like I said, why aren't COPS & LE still carrying them? Some people want to believe in what they grew up with or what some "expert" told them. Doesn't make it so. I'm just stating things that can go wrong and the cons. But you are hell bent on brainwashing people into believing that revolvers ARE more reliable & that just isn't so. But, that's JUST my opinion.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 indeed it is just YOUR OPINION. Which is mostly based on what you have taught not in actual experience. Had it been you would have chimed in by now. Being an instructor because you were taught by another instructor is great, that is how the learning chain works, but dont make videos implying fact when it is just your opinion. There are alot of people that disagree with you that have " been there done that"
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
Those are always the comments from someone who does neither. If I shoot over a thousand rounds a month in dynamic shooting scenarios do you think you are faster than me? I have no less than three revolvers with no less than 10,000 rounds through them and have never had a failure to fire. SO dont though your less than experience based arrogance.I am asking you a direct question. Do you have any experience as a law enforcement officer, security contractor, bodyguard,or soldier?
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Regarding your comment about if they go down in competition how will they fare in the real world? Well, competition shooting MAY only represent about 10% of civilian situations, that is, from 10 ft. and out. 90% of civilian conflicts take place within 10 feet. 80% of that takes place from 0-6 ft. I can assure you that if you are within 10 feet of me & I have a knife & you go to draw your gun from concealment, you are going to lose badly. AT BEST you might get your gun out
brian47374 1 month ago
& shoot me. In the real world people don’t just stand there & let you shoot them like paper targets. Not to mention that if I had a gun, there is NO WAY that you are going to get your gun out & shoot me before I can get several rounds off. You see, you can’t outdraw a drawn gun. And in competition that person isn’t shooting back. So what are you REALLY representing when competing? A static target that can’t harm you.
brian47374 1 month ago
@brian47374 Considering I am a filipino martial arts instructor and student and teach Krav Maga. Your barkin up the wrong tree if you think this is a lesson. Have you ever done ANY of this other than on paper? I work in an armed profession pal, and have been involved in dozens of use of force encounters including edged weapons. Your entitled to your opinion, but don't make videos inplying fact if you have no actual experience in use of force other than scenario based Force on force training.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@brian47374 I am fully aware of the statistics, and the Tueller drill,and as far as losing badly that is purely situational, and the results are not concrete. We work counter ambush edged weapon drills weekly. some empty handed some armed from concealment. I have also been witness to the aftermath of many edged weapon attacks, and other than the gross factor many are superficial in regards to incapacitation. Slashing attacks from sub 5 inch blades through clothing are overrated in effectiveness.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES piercing/stabbing attacks under 3 inches are also not outstanding in incapacitation. I was stabbed 7 times in the course of taking down a violent offender in a bar and wasn't even aware i was stabbed until after he was subdued and in handcuffs.None of the wounds were life threatening, including three in the abdomen that never penetrated the muscle through my shirts.Had I been aware he ws using lethal force in that circumstance I would have surely been able to draw and discharge
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago