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  • @rakeshscetic No you are wrong. You need to read their scriptures before you say that Rahul29yug. I dont go off hearsay. I've clearly stated below where they stated Yagnapurush is Bhagvan. See for yourself.

  • Also Loya Vachanamruts delcare upasna should be of one Purshottam. Not bhakt and bhagvan. We do not pu case on Acharya. You have the wrong people. Yagnapurush in past helped Kunjvihari to do case on acharya too.

  • Vachanamrut 71 sachuj che. Pan tema kyay Akshar ni upasna ke Gunatit parampara no ullekh nathi. Upasna to ek Purshottam Nij thay jem Loya na Vachnamrut ma kahyu tem.

  • We are lucky that Bhagwan Swaminarayan gifted us six temples. Maharaje ketli bahdhi daya kari ane em pan kahyu che ke aama hu Akhand rahyo chu..

    Aa sentence maharaj na kirtan ke puja kari ne e dhareli murti bole evu vichar jo bahuj Mahima e 6 mandir no khabar pade...Jay Swaminarayan...

  • We are lucky that Bhagwan Swaminarayan gifted us six temples. Maharaje ketli daya kari.

    

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  • Gunatitanand Swamis vatos declare to NEVER take avgun of the Acharya...BAPS Bliss magazine and BAPS website fully take avgun and perform ninda of Acharyas. Even the likes of great 1008 Shri Bhagvatprasadji Maharaj. Who even the Nand Santo like Pragnanand Swami, Adbhutanand Swami, Bhumanand Swami served. Who when was born... Shriji Maharaj gave sugar to all in Gadhpur...proclaiming "the next Acharya is born"!

  • "Pachi pragat purshottam ne dhotiya odhaarya". Tam tamare odharya rakho. Ne Maharaj na siddhant ne agnao no bhangh karta faro. Mein proof ganu apyu che. JEnathi mumukshuo svayam jani shake. Satya shu che te. Sarve vanchnaar mumukshuo svayam jai ne tapaas karjo. all scriptures and proofs. As i don't want people to follow on my word. I want people to realise for themselves. As that has a stronger impact then any persons words. Im just a means to get people on the right way of worship that's all.

  • Also on page 557 it says... "tyare koie kahyu je Hai Swami! Tamo jameen leva mateh prayaas karo cho pan Gadhada ma jameen malti nathi. Ne raja e pan apne apva mateh bandhi kari che to apane kyathi malshe? Tyare pragat Purshottam Narayan kahe je 'jo raja jameen nahi ape to chevte amo anyathakartu shakti vaprine jameen laien mandir karshu ne jo vadhare aada avshe to teno pasej karavsu. Atyare amrau dharyu thay che. Tek kon na padi shake tem che?

  • Ideologies have sprung by BAPS from testimonies only, which cannot be backed up from the core scriptures. Most are assumptions and interpretations of the minority who use their status and background to gather minorities of society. This following is then increased using their false dogmas, set forth in an authoritative manner. This foundation is then used to set up a misrepresented way of belief. Using any little proof to back up from authentic scriptures yet refusing key command of the Maharaj

  • Also Madhya nu 43 declares... only a person who has love for Bhagvãn, having become gunãtit is brahm-svarup. Note nowhere it declares there if only one brahmsvarup. Nor a parampara for Gunatit. Anybody can be Gunatit. They attach to one who already is one and "Mann, karm Vacchane (through mind, speech and deed)" serve them. This is how Asvasthama became Brahmrup. Through worship of Mahadev!! His upasna. in same way we should have Upasna of Purshottam only! Like Loya 14 says.. beyond Akshar!

  • “it is my command to all sadhus, bhramcharis and all satsangi's, that for the purpose of your kalyaan (emancipation) you must obey and follow the two Acharyas of Dharmavansh, and obey their commands by thought, action and speech. If this is compromised and who ever turns elsewhere (rejecting the Acharyas) will find that they will never find sukh (happiness) in this world or the worlds beyond and will experience immense distress.” (Desh Vibhag no Lekh).What bigger evidence than that do you need?

  • [Vachanãmritam Gadhadã III/21] "Staunch satsangis" do not abide against even one command of Maharaj.

  • Shriji Maharaj has also sanctioned the Parampra of Acharyas in "place of Him". That through their refuge only one can attain Atyantik Kalyan (read satsangi Jivan and Haricharitram etc.). To never leave the Sampradai nor the refuge of either of the 2 Dharmvanshi Acharyas. Why turn a blind eye to this? Maharaj never stated ONLY the sant can give Kalyan. Show me where. He said (as described in Purshottam Prakash) he lives in the Acharyas 'Visheshe' furthermore and accepts all offerings and seva.

  • Please also back up your BAPS Halililakalpatru. Seeing as you dont have the original Achintyanand Varnis handwritten one with the stamp of Adi Acharya 1008 Dharmvanshi Shri Raguvirji Maharaj. So where did BAPS get theirs from? Also how did they think they can get away with adding extra 8 shloks without anyone noticing. LOL

  • WHY DO B.A.P.S QUOTE SOME OF TEH SCRIPTURES BUT NOT ALL.

    WHERE IS IT STATED THAT ONLY SAAR OF SCRIPTURES SHOULD BE BELIEVED? ALSO WHEN SHRIJI MAHARAJ ENFORCES THAT SOMTHING MUST BE FOLLOWED HOW IS THAT NOT SAAR ROOP?

    These are just some which no B.A.P.S devotee has been able to answer with references from scriptures. Once they do i have many more. These are just some.

  • HOW MANY SATPURUSH'S ARE ON THE EARTH? B.A.P.S SAY ONE. WHERE IS SUCH WRITTEN THAT THERE IS ONE ONLY?

    DID YOU READ MONJI BHAGAT NI VATO LINK I PUT UP? IT HAS THE SEAL OF VIHARILALJI MAHARAJ.

    DID YOU FIND THE ARTI WRITTEN BY A NAND SANT AS IT IS SUNG BY B.A.P.S?

  • WHY DOES PRAMUKH SWAMI SIT ON GOLDEN CHAIRS?? GUNATITANAND SWAMI NEVER DID. EVEN THOUGH HE COULD HAVE. YOU THINK BHAKTOS DIDNT OFFER HIM ALSO OR WISHED FOR HIM TO SIT ON SUCH? MY GURU DOESNT.

    WHY DOES HE EAT FROM A METAL PLATE? SWAMINARAYAN SANTO SHOULDNT. MY GURU DOESNT.

    WHY FOLLOW WHAT YOUR BAPA SAYS YET NOT FOLLOW THE SHASTRO LIKE EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS SUCH AS THOSE WRITTEN BY PARSHAD MONA BHAGAT?

    WHY DONT YOU FOLLOW SATSANGI JIVAN SCRIPTURE SUCH AS 4.46.23. Shriharidigvijay 41/65.

  • WHY DONT YOU ACCEPT MANY OF THE NAND SANTOS VATOS?

    WHY DONT YOU ACCEPT SARVAMANGAL STOTRA OR NAMAVLI?

    YOU SAY YOU RESPECT ACHARYAS.. THEN WHY NOT FOLLOW THEM?

    WHY NOT FOLLOW SHIKSHAPATRI SHLOKS LIKE 41, 62 ETC?

    WHY NOT FOLLOW THE BHASHYA OF SUCH SHLOKS BY SHATANAND SWAMI YET QUOTE FROM ONLY SOME OF HIS WORKS?

  • WHERE IS YOUR GURU SAID TO BE MUL AKSHAR?

    WHICH SCRIPTURE DOES IT STATE THERE WILL BE A PARAMPARA OF MUL AKSHARS?

    IF ALL YOUR PARAMPARA WAS MUL AKSHAR THEN WHICH ONE WAS MUL AKSHAR WHEN ALL WERE PRESENT ON EARTH ALTOGETHER? ALL THREE?

    WHERE IS THAT IN SCRIPTURES?

    WHY DONT YOU FOLLOW PURSHOTTAM PRAKASH PRAKRAN 37+ ONWARDS, HARILILAMRUT, KALYAN NIRNAY AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES (WHICH YOU DONT QUOTE FROM AND NEITHER FOLLOW) YET YOU LIKE TO QUOTE FROM IT?

    WHY DONT YOU FOLLOW DESH VIBHAGH LEKH??

  • What do you mean unfortunately? Worshipping murtis of Akshar is nor worshipping? How do you get gyan through worshipping it then? Gita does not say do association with it. Please quote so. Also ive quoted from Gita itself that upasna of Aksharbrahm brings 'klesh' (trouble). I know Bhagvan Swaminarayan asked questions. i never said He didn't. Please answer the rest of mine too.

  • PARANTU AVYAKT AKSHARBRAHM MA ASAKT CHITTVARA TE AKSHARNA UPASAKO NO ATI ADHIK KLESH SEHVO PADE CHE. ANE DEH DHARIO E AKHRE SUKH PURVAKAJ TE AVYAKT GATI PRAPT KARAY CHE. GITA (6).

    Those who worship Aksharbrahm have trouble (ati adheek- meaning alot more). 

  • @MultiHimraj unfortunately BAPS does not worship Akshar but worships God through the knowledge given by that Akshar...which the gita says to do assosiation whith...

  • DUKH DAYAK MURTI NU AVLAMBAN NATHI JE MAHARAJE PANCHALA NA 2 VACHNAMRUT MA KIDHU CHE KE SANKHYA ANE YOG BEH NA SADHAN SARKHA CHE PAN UPASNA NI REET SARKHI NATH,I GANI PRATHAK CHE. SANKHYA MA SRUTI SHASTRE KARINE KAYU, JE BHAGVANNU SWARUP TENE VICHARE ANE PACHI ANUBHAVE KARINE YATHARTH JANE TYARE PAME TYARE YOG VARA NE PRATYAKSHYA MURTI NU AVLAMBAN CHE TETHI SARLTA THI BHAGVAN NA SWARUPNE PAME CHE.

  • क्लेशोડधिकरस्तेषामव्यक्तासकतचे­तसाम् |

    अव्यक्ता हि गतिर्दुःखं देह्वद्भिरवाप्यते ||५||

    પરન્તુ-અવ્યક્ત અક્ષર-બ્રહ્મમાં આસક્ત ચિત્તવાળા તે

    અક્ષરના ઉપાસકોને અતિ અધિક કલેશ સહેવો પડે છે.

    અને દેહધારીઓએ આખરે દુઃખપૂર્વક જ તે અવ્યક્ત ગતિ

    પ્રાપ્ત કરાય છે.

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  • श्रीभगवानुवाच मय्यावेश्य मनो ये मां नित्ययुक्ता उपासते | श्रद्धया परयोपेतास्ते मे युक्ततमा मता: ||२|| શ્રીભગવાન કહે છે : મારામાં જ મનને એકાગ્ર કરીને જે ભક્તજનો મારામાં જ નિત્યયુક્ત થઈને મારી ઉપાસના કરે છે, અને મારામાં જ જેઓ પરમ દૃઢ શ્રદ્ધાએ યુક્ત છે, તે જ મારા ભક્તોમાં અતિ યુક્ત-યોગ્યતાવાળા શ્રેષ્ઠ માનેલા છે ते त्वक्षरमनिर्देश्यमव्यक्तं पर्युपासते | सर्वत्रगमचिन्त्यं च कूटस्थमचलं ध्रुवम् ||३|| संनियमेंद्रियग्रामं सर्वत्र समबुद्धयः | ते प्राप्नुवन्ति मामेव सर्वभूतहितेरताः ||४||
  • ઉપાસનાના ભેદથી કેવી રીતનું પરિણામ આવે છે

    તે માટે જુઓ શ્રીમદ્ભગવદ્ગીતા અધ્યાય -૧૨ (ભક્તિયોગ).अर्जुन उवाच

    एवं सततयुक्ता ये भक्तास्त्वां पर्युपासते |

    ये चाप्यक्षरमव्यक्तं तेषां के योगवित्तमाः ||१||

    અર્જુન કહે છે : જે અનન્ય ભક્તજન આ પૂર્વે કહ્યું

    એ પ્રકારે નિરંતર આપના ભજન-ધ્યાનમાં રહીને

    આપની ઉપાસના કરે છે અને જે બીજાઓ અવ્યક્ત

    અક્ષરની ઉપાસના કરે છે , આ બે પ્રકારના ઉપાસકોમાં

    અતિ ઉત્તમ યોગવેત્તા કોણ છે ?

  • Even Vadtal 18 Vachnamrut declares the parampara of the Dharmvanshis Acharyas. But nowhere is a so called 'gunatit parampara' declared. Show me. YOU STILL FAIL TO DO THIS.

  • In Gopalanand Swami ni vato Gunatitanand swami has asked questions to Gopalanand swami. Please read (1,33), (2,315).

    SO MUCH MUCH MORE THERE IS.

  • @MultiHimraj Bhagwan Swaminarayan even asked questions so whats yr pt

  • Also please read Hari Charitra Chintamani pariched-2 Adhyay 28: Gopalanand Swami is described as 'agnaganya' (the main).

    Also Bhaktchintamani 142 (Karya Maharaj motera bahu, mane mota munivar sahu).

    Please read Gunatitanand Swami (3,66), (1,155), (1,292), (5,65), (1,327), (2,32), (5,30)... all describing Gopalanand Swami.

  • Please read Shri Hari charitra Chintamani Bhag 2 Vaat 239:

    Gopalanand Swami asked Shriji maharaj to stop feeding santo in 'pankti' and only since then did shriji Maharaj stopped 'pirasvanu'.

  • Please also read Satsangi Jivan rakran 5.55:

    Shriji Maharaj established Gopalanand Swami as the head after stating him to be the greatest of all santo, brahmchari adi tyagi varg.

    Please also read Shriharicharitramrut Sagar pur 20 Tarang 22:

    Shriji Maharaj declares that the talks of Gopalanand Swami are proof. Shri Hari gave him the sarvopari gun.

  • Nityanand Swami has also declared Gopalanand Swami as the greatest of all saints, none else. Please read Haricharitrachintamani Bhagh 2, vaat 332.

    Muktanand swami also made a kirtan after realising greatness of Gopalanand Swami and after being Mahant of Varodra with the kirtan:

    "Jire Mahima moto che mahant no"

  • Also please read Shukanand Swami ni vaat 17...

    Ane vari em vat kari je, je katha, varta, bhajan, smaran eh adik je je kriya kariye chiye teh sarve ne Shriji Maharaj joi rahya che ne Akshardhamna mukt tatha Gopalanand Swami ne aaghar Maharaj vat kare che je eh bahu saru kare che...

    Also vaat 18 declares greatness of Gopalanand Swami.

  • Also in Gunatitanand Swami ni vato (original)..

    Bhagwan na svarupnu nirupan karta toh Maharajne avde, ka toh Gopalanand Swami jeva ne avde, pan bija koine avde nai... Vato 2/67.

  • Adi Acharya Raguvirji Maharaj in 'Durgpur Mahatmyam' describes Shriji maharaj stating about Gopalanand Swami as sarvottam and best amongst all sadhus and who holds his murti at all times:"Ane ashtang yog sadhyo che, yogna panghat vidvano ma ah swami Gopalanand sarvottam che, Samgra sadhuo ma pan Shresth che ane hamesha mara svarup ne sakshat anubhavi rahya che" Adhyay 83.

  • Please also read Aksharanand Swamis vato 626 onwards. Also please read Vachnamrut Madhya 62..talks of Gopalanand Swami as the only one having 'dasatva ni uttam dasha'

  • Gunatitanand Swami himsefl belived Gopalanand swami to be greater than him. Please read Gopalanand Swamis jivan Charitra written by Chaitanyanand swami. Please read Aksharanand swami ni vato which states Nishkulanand Swami made Bhaktchintamani prakran on Gopalanand Swami after realising Gopalanand swami as Mul Akshar.

  • The scriptures state what Shirji Maharaj requires. So it is the elite and utmost of truth which is to be used as proof for living life. Whoever does not follow them is a asur.

  • B.A.P.S followers need to read Haricharitramrut sagar:

    Pragat Hari ke sankalp mahi, sab shastra hi vartan hai tahi, Hari ke bani shastra ka hi, Hari ke marji sam sau kar hi, Tehi kari ke shastrako, sabse adhik pramaan, shastra na mane so asur. Maha jaan na budhimaan. 4.29.

  • If this was not the case then Gunatitanand Swami would not serve the murti of Radharamandev for 40 years, 4 months and 4 days with having Shriji Maharajs love in mind. It would have been vyabhicarini bhakti otherwise. But it wasnt so. Like Maharaj explains using the example of Hanumanji in antya 16 Vachnamrut.

  • Shiskhapatri Bhashya by shatanand Swami in Shloka 112 also states not to do bhed within the murtis of Bhagwan. You do bhed between Radha and Krishnas Murtis. Truth is shriji Maharaj is in both of them Pratyaksh. So in this way you do not need murti of Akshar. As we see Shriji Maharaj in every murti anyway.

  • Shlok 112 of the Shikshapatri and others are therefore not about Bhagwan and bhakt upasna. One shouldnt see Bhed in the murtis of Radha and Krishna etc.

    Ataschasya svarupeshu bhedo gneyo na sarvatha.

    Please read Param pujya Dharm dhurandhar Acharya shri devendraprasadji Maharajs 'Shikshapatri Rahasyarth' to know more with many references which talks of the Sankalp avtars of Bhagwan swaminarayan.

  • Also please read Adbhutanand Swami ni vato 212. Where the brahmins question whose upasna Swaminarayan followers have and if they have Swaminarayan upasna alone then why do they have Radha Krishna, Narnarayandec etc. Adbhutanand Swami gives a beutiful response which yo ucannot have a answer too with the words of the Vachnamrut. The 'Haridigvijay granth' also declares:

    || etani mama rupani sarvanyatra na sanshaya

    prayojanvashadev dhyanam karya yatharuchi ||

  • Also please read Satsangi Jivan 2/51/9 etc which declares Diksha should be from a Dharmvanshi Acharya only and none else. Shikshapatri 128 also states so. Also for the females the Acharya wife should give diksha (Shikshapatri 133). Is that not saar roop? HAHA. Do not forget one of Maharajs names was 'Aum Shri Sadhvidharmpravartkaay Namah' he established sadvi dharm. So where is sadhvi dharma in B.A.P.S?

  • Also they say how Murti has to be bhakt and Bhagwan in Swaminarayan upasaks too. well Gunatitanand swami served Radharamandev for 40 years. Yet he never ever stated such. He knew Shriji maharaj Himself lives with these murtis as Bhagwan stated this.

    B.A.P.S followers please read 'Haricharitram' 55/2-3...55/6. About Maharaj declaring that he lives in all these murtis consecrated by the Dharmvanshi Acharya of Dharmdev only.

  • In same way dharmvanshi acharya is the gadi parampara head (Please read at least Vadtal 18 if not any other scripture). B.A.P.S do not acknowledge their status and if they do they do not accept the Acharyas control of Swaminarayan Bhagwan's Gadi. So they are the slanderers of the Acharyas.

    Shriji Maharaj has declared only Dharmvanshi acharyas can initiate tyagis and gruhis, B.A.P.S followers do not acknowledge this therefore they are drohis.

  • Shriji maharaj has explained in Varta 2nd Vachanmrut about droh:

    “For example, you are the Patel (chief of a village) of your village. If someone does not acknowledge your status in the village, then he can be said to be your slanderer. Also, if someone does not accept the control of an emperor of the world, but instead accepts the control of

    a person who is not even a king, then that man is known as a slanderer of the emperor.

  • Haricharitramrut Sagar also declares:

    Whoever lives against the commands of Bhagwan Swaminarayan are easily shown within this swaminarayan sampraday. In such a way there are much more other extraordinary divneness within this Sampraday. 27.96

  • In Samvat 1920 brahmchari Swami Sri Anandanandji sent a devotee Ramkrushna to Acharya Shri Bhagvatprasadji Maharaj in Vartal.He was named Aksharanand Brahmchari.

    There is so so much more.

    Even your B.A.P.S gurus Yagnapurush Shastri and Gyanjivandas (Yogiji) has been initiated by Dharmvanshi acharyas. So on what authority do you declare that siants can give Maha Bhagvati diksha?

  • The author of Avinashanand Kavya Brahmchari Avinashanand was initiated by Adi acharya Sri Ayodhyaprasadji Maharaj.

    In samvat 1909 Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami took Gordhan Bhagat to be initiated into a sadhu in Vadtal Chaitri Samaiyo, He was named Swami Balmukundas. Who served the Dharmvanshi Acharyas alot. Once a Bhakt came to Gunatit Muni in Junagadh. Swami had him sent to Gadhpur with another Brahmchari for initiation. Here he was initiated as Mahapurushanand by Acharya Raguvirji Maharaj.

  • Nishkamanand Brahmchari who was known as Deveshvar of Dholera was initiated by Adi Acharya Raghuvirji Maharajsri and was one of the nine saints who was aquainted of the Harililamrut by Viharilalji Maharajsri. Vasudevanandji Muni of Junagadh who lived with Gunatit muni and served Radharamandev with him was initiated by Adi Acharya Raguvirji Maharaj. Also on the prayer of Gunatit Muni to Gopal Muni, Gopal Muni established the mahapuja for the very first time with this brahmchari in samvat 1901.

  • Sadguru Mul akshar Gopalanand Swami and Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami who lived 22 years and 37 years never ever initiated a saint on their own. For example, in samvat 1900 Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami took His shishya Premji Bhakt to Vadtal and had him initiated by Adi Acharya Shri Raghuvirji Maharaj and named him 'Yogeshvardas'. Samvat 1906 Vaishakh Vad 6- The first narator of 'Harililamrut' and author of 'Harisambhav Mahakavya' ... Achintyanand Varni was initiated by Acharya Raghuvirji Maharaj.

  • In this adhyay there are shlok 49 in total. After Shlok 45.. from shlok 47- 54 it starts "Shri Shukanand Uvach" and his talk. None of what B.A.P.S put is within it. Also, the main scripture itself is with Acharya maharaj then how did B.A.P.S get its so called version from? The full version is ready to be published again anyway and people can read for themselves the truth.

  • Go read for yourself. Acharya Ajendraprasadji Maharaj or has it and the scanned copy is with Swami Nityasvarupdasji of Sardhaar. That adhyay has only 49 Shloks and is the original one by Adi Acharya Raghuvirji Maharaj and Achintyanand Bramchari.

  • It was made by the help of a sheth of Mumbai called Sheth Maneklal Chunilal. This person is also described in the B.A.P.S monthly sandesh Oct.2010 page number 28.The original one does not even have Shriji Maharaj giving Mulji Sharma diksha in Dabhan so what to talk about saying he is Mul Akshar?

  • Where you use Acharya Maharajshri 1008 Viharilalji fake. Do you even know.BAPS have added to the Harililakalpatru. The original is written by Sadhu Premsukhdasji in Gujarati on the order of Adi Acharya Raguvirji Maharaj. Each page has the stamp of Adi acharya on. Read 17th Adyay Shlok 39-49. BAPS sadhu printed it in Samvat 2021 and added 8 more Shloks. I

  • Ragukul means the family of Raja Ragu. (King Ragu) of whise decendents were Dashrath, Raam and all. Raguvansh means the clan of Ragu. Dharmvansh means the clan of Dharmdev. None other than them. Dharmvanshi acharyas means Acharyas born unto the clan of Dharmdev. None else. Show me from any of the scriptures where Gunatitanand Swami is declared as Dharmkul. As Madhya 58 and Sarangpur 13 declare the advancement is through the scriptures only no leela of Bhagvan is out of the scriptures.

  • If you cannot be satisfied by direct quotes spoken by Shriji Maharaj, Nand santo etc. What can i do furthermore to satisfy your mind? There you go. You have the freedom to search these quotes for yourself. But no. You go on with your drivel with cheap comments such as "your quotes cannot be taken for truth" etc.

  • The Upasna Bhagvan was talking of was His very own. You, no matter how much you will be shown. All the prrof from the scriptures... dont have it in you to accept the very own sampradai established by Bhagvan Swaminarayan. Only those with enough punya can attain such. The dveshis, ragis and drohis attain the vimukh sansthas. They are born unto them. Then if they take great gunn of the true then they may break away and attain the sampraday of Bhagvan Swaminarayan.

  • Ive explained Nirvikalp uttam nischay. Brahmrup thai ne Bhagvan ni upasna karvi. Dont think you know what 'Dharmvansh', 'brahmrup/svarup' is. Dhyan cannot be done of a saint Pur 15 Tarang 92. Ramanand Swami says Gadi parampara is for brahmins only and to give it to brahmins Pur 17 Tarang 16. Meaning of Dharmvanshi and Dharmkul Pur 11 Tarang 2. Dharmvanshi gruhast can be held as gadi head only Pur 7 Tarang 4.

  • Eva sant ni balihari CD? yeah so what? It explains Akshar but not its worship. In fact so many other kirtans do. Such as 'Akshar Na Vasi Valo's' following Pad's. LOL. Nowhere does it state worship or upasna of Akshar. Please read Haricharitramrut Sagar Pur 16 Tarang 11 for knowing brahmsvarup and brahmrup meanings. Its figured out by siddhanand muni as heard from Shriji Maharaj. LOL.So what have you got to say for yourself now?

  • Please also read Loya 14 while your at it.... "EVA JE PURUSHOTTAM NARAYAN TENI UPASNA JEEV NE KARVI." "TATHA RAMANUJ SWAMI E JEVI RITE KSHAR AKSHAR THAKI PAR JE PURUSHOTTAM BHAGVAN TENU NIRUPAN KAHYU CHE. TE PURUSHOTTAM BHAGVAN NE VISHE TOH AMARE UPASNA CHE." NOTE NO AKSHAR. Also about arti...care to tell me why BAPS have changed it? In the words of Mukt muni please.

  • Also Loya 12... does not talk about a upasna of Akshar. Nirvikalp uttam nischay is brahmrup potane manvu. (Evu je Purshottam Narayan nu dhamrup Akshar te rupe poteh rayo thako Purushottamni upasna kare tene uttam Nirvikalp nischay varo kahiye) PURUSHOTAM NI UPASNA. You understand??? Nowhere does it say worship of Akshar. LOL. Get your facts right. Nor is a so called Gunatit parampara mentioned anywhere in the scriptures. Jara vancho.

  • My quotations are not trustable? With what authority do you say that? I mean i dont see you correcting them. As you cant. Truth is not that you havent only not read these scriptures but your probably havent even heard of them lol. Much cant be expected from you guys anyway. What can guru dehis and vachan drohis teach others of agna and upasna? Any scriptures they have read are either edited liek the Harililakalpatru.

  • Why would this video distract people from the Mul Sampradai? The right Samprdai is teh one that practices the correct agna and upasna. Which are the two wings of the Sampradai. Not something made up later. Shriji Maharaj is more happy with those who follow satsnag not on those hwo boast of their dharna parna.

  • @santdasji yes and Brahma Mulam in this context means Brahmroop not Brhamaswaroop that is the difference you cant figure out....but wait a minute you told me that the acharya was different...right? You told me that the Acharya is what we have to follow right? So all these are useless compared to what Raghuvirji Maharaj and Viharilalji Maharaj wrote...you said Sampraday na shastra vanchva ne vichar karvo to karo vichar...

  • @maharajswami1916 If one acts according to his own fictional interpretations of the shãstras while ignoring all four sets of shãstras, then even if he is a vedãnti or a person with upãsanã, he is lost. He cannot be said to have found the path of kalyãn. Therefore, such a vedãnti’s gnãn is hypocritical, and a person with such upãsanã is a hypocritical bhakta.” Prathamnu 52.

  • @santdasji Here are your Answers Ragu Kul is Ram Bhagwan not Luv and Kush not Dasarath Raja...so Dharma Kul is Bhagwan Swaminarayan ONLY BHAGWAN Swaminarayan I dont care about any of the Acharyas since it is only Dharmakul I care about...only The Son of Dharmadev Ghanshyam Also THE REAL DHARMA KUL IS AKSHAR BRAHMA WHO IS GUNATITAND SWAMI and AKSHARBHRAHMA.SANT.SATPURUSH today Gunatitanand Swami is Akshar according to Viharilalji Maharaj himself who wrote Akshree dharavya nij vartman

  • @santdasji Little Upasana then anwer one simple question of mine what is Akshar? What is Nirvikapl Uttam Nischay? What is Dharmavansh in Real? Why do ALL of the Mandirs shown in this video have two Murtis in their Madhya Khand? Why did Maharaj Say that the Mandirs are there for Upasana...what upasana was he talking about? ANSWER THEN CORRECT AND SATISFY ME AND I WILL RUN TO VADTAL AND SAY I WAS WRONG I WILL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SAMPRADAY...JUST ANSWER THEM TO MY CONTEMPT

  • It's lovely to see all the pics of the 6 Manidrs that Shreeji Maharaj built! With dates too!!! That's a plus. Maharaj has had so much mercy on us for establishing these Mandirs with His own hands. I am proud to be part of the Origional Swaminarayan Sampradai and can definately boast of the origional temples made by Him. Maharaj is indeed Splendid.

    Jai Shree Swaminarayan.

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  • @santdasji Sorry to say but most of your quotations are not trustable to lets do someting that we both can trust look at Vachanamrut Loya-12 and then contemplate on Nirvikalp Uttam Nischay (ashtak)if all you juna-mandir people would go to aarti instead of fighting BAPS then you would know this already also Om eti et tat Aksharam Actually a CD by Bhuj Mandir Eva Santa ni Balhari Ek Vaat Sunno Purushottam Bolya preete it explains Akshar..it was you who told me that Bhuj Santos are great wasnt it?

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  • this video will detract people from the Original Sampraday...I say this on the last Day of my dharna-parna upvas for 5 months...Maharaj I know you will stay with the right Sanstha..."Satthe rehjo Maharaj-Swami Karva Kaam che bhari"-SHastriji Maharaj

  • @maharajswami1916 thanks for sharing your punya. Very genourous of you. Certain folk just don't like the truth.Only the weak and unfortunate detract.Speaking for myself this video just does the opposite.It overwhelms me with a huge feeling of gratitude for what Shri Hari's grace has bestowed upon me.He has given me more than what I feel I deserve in His legacy of these 6 mandirs.He physically laboured in some of these temples.And He did this for His own as a father would for his sons.

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