Richter definitely is the top performer of his time and knowledge of the work at that time...but with more scholarship, we now know that this interpretation would probably not have been what Bach had wanted or done had he in fact performed the piece.
My hat goes off to these courageous musicians...because they sound BEAUTIFUL regardless!
The baroque style conducting began with Lully, who used a massive, heavy, stick. If I remember correctly, he once hit his foot and it caused an infection which killed him. Ok, from Wikipedia: He was beating time by banging a long staff (a precursor to the bâton) against the floor, as was the common practice at the time, when he struck his toe, creating an abscess. The wound turned gangrenous, but Lully refused to have his toe amputated and the gangrene spread, resulting in his death on 22 March.
Sorry to all you God naysayers. The theology of Bach is woven throughout all of his compositions whether secular or sacred. All of his music was Soli Deo Gloria. SDG
@carrillomark1 "Sorry all you God naysayers. The theology of Bach is woven throughout all of his compositions whether secular or sacred. All of his music was Soli Deo Gloria."
And? Exactly what conclusion do you wish to follow from this statement? It's unclear to me precisely how my acceptance of the face value truth of the second sentence of yours I quote supports the implied conclusion in the first. Why should this in any way discourage my naysaying ?
@polymath7 I would caution you to be careful about saying that "All of Bach's music was Soli Deo Gloria"...because it was not. Many instances of Bach's music, especially during his time in Cothen was NOT specifically for the church. After 1723, When Bach moved to Leipzig, the compositions he wrote for the Collegium Musicum were also not intended to be sacred in nature.
While he was Lutheran, he was also a businessman, He did what he had to do to support his family.
Sorry for all you God naysayers. The theology of Bach is found in all of his compositions, along with his belief that all of what he wrote was to the Glory of God. SDG!
I sometimes think this and the St Mathew Passion are the two greatest musical achievements the human species has ever produced. Both rival the depth and grandeur of Beethoven's ninth and Missa Solemnis.
@polymath7 my vote would go to Bach's Art of Fugue. Which I honestly feel is the greatest achievement of our species in anything. But how do you pick? I can't imagine what it was like to be Bach and have those kinds of things going through his mind. Either it was ecstasy or a living hell.
@binkymagnus I certainly can't quarrel with that. Bach is one of the absolute titans of human creative genius and 'The Art of the Fugue' -and for that matter 'The Muscial Offering'- are pretty much equally strong candidates for his greatest work.
I've heard it said that "Western Civilization's" greatest accomplishment is not in its science, philosophy or religion, but its music; after hearing this piece, I kind of understand why.
@beatlesmack9: Hello, I would recommend to you the recording of Karl-Friedrich Beringer with the Windsbacher Chor, Thomas Quasthoff and others. A tip for insiders! In the US, it's been released by the label rondeau (ASIN: B0000XKAS4). Enjoy it!
@goldenthroat86 Not all historic interpretations of baroque music are good. Richter is not historic, but he gets a very deep emotional effect in his Bach interpretations. I prefer the Matthauspassion conducted by Richter more than the Harnnoncourt one (for example), even when the Harnoncourt is closer to the baroque playing and Richter is a little romantic. The historic interpretations are incredible, but not the only good.
@goldenthroat86 To whom, then, should we listen? Please don't refer us to some bloodless, heartless, vibrato-les version! The Baroque era was one of passion, sharp accents, dissonance, grandiosity, and stark contrast in all its art forms!
@goldenthroat86 That is the reason why this excerpt is that good! Why should we go back in development?! Or do you really think that Bach himself would use old instruments if he would have had the chance to work with those great instruments we have today? Amazing interpretation.....
@TheShokorabbit I said nothing about "old instruments." It's a fine performance, but I don't agree with the old fashioned "cast of thousands" approach in performing such pieces.
@TheShokorabbit Bach would use instruments of his time. He was a practical man. Bu he DID use old instruments, and that;s why we should use them today, if we are interested to hear what he had in mind. Just like at home, we cook our old-time classic potatoes in an all-time-classic pot, and not in the MW.
Something tells me though that the full, powerful Richter Bach-sound is much closer to what Bach had in mind than the thin period hip-hop sound that is fashionable today.
@herodot2 2 remarks: 1. it is very important to determine "what" is this "something" that "tells you" so. 2nd. Maybe you listen to the wrong ensembles, because the period instruments ensembles that I listen to, do not match your description ;)
there are also period performers I like--say Harnoncourt, or Suzuki. Because both are great musicians.
I guess all I appeal for is openness. Richter extracted beauty, drama and power that is a genuine part of Bach. The romantic Busoni or Siloti transcriptions are great music, as are Suzuki's small-ensemble performances. Art of Fugue is superb with piano, strings, trombones, percussion. Seek what's in Bach's music, not what he allegedly had in mind. Who knows what that was.
I ABSOLUTELY love Richter's method of conducting. So precise...it reminds me of what I would term the "British school" of conducting cathedral choirs. Would this be a baroque style of direction? Does anyone know where I could learn more about this method?
@Wally773MTG There are many books available in the library of St. Martin's in the Field in London. The church is the home of an exceptional choir and uses the so-called 'English mode'. The church is the Northumberland Avenue end of Trafalgar Square, in the Avenue there is a pib dedicated to Sherlock Holmes memorabilia.
Else try the Adrian Boult foundation library or call Colin Davis. If all else fails find Christian Gutemann, easily the best non-Brit exponent of the method.
I've just come home from singing the B Minor in Winchester Cathedral. It's not an easy sing at all - it's VERY difficult indeed - but well worth the challenge.
@1hakon Just a personal opinion of course - Miles is the level of genius that comes around once every 50 years or so. Bach is the level of genius that comes around once every 500 years or so. If you consider all forms of art and knowledge I'd say every 10/100 years for the each of them.
@1hakon I can tell English is your second language, so I'll cut you some slack on the fact that most of what you said doesn't make sense grammatically (and I can't understand it). I just don't know why you are getting upset about something that follows a statement that I am just expressing my personal opinion. Are you upset that I have my own opinion and that its different from yours? Come on dude, just enjoy the video!
@1hakon I have 2 degrees, one in music. You can call me a greenhorn being young, but that doesn't make it true. There were several Bach experts at my music college, and I took several graduate level courses on Bach with them. I don't claim to be an expert, but I believe my experience entitles me to an opinion. In fact, I don't believe any expertise is necessary for an opinion. I studied jazz as well, and I have tremendous respect for Miles. I just don't think hes a genius like Bach. OK with you?
@1hakon Actually I specifically told you that I was NOT critiquing your English, since I could tell it wasn't your first language. I was just letting you know that I couldn't understand what you said. You keep bringing it up as though its pertinent. You want an example of the genius of Bach? Read through some of his crab canons. There is a level of genius present which is absolutely staggering.
@scsteeldrums ah, how i love discussions between fellow music lovers! brings joy to my hart to see that people still try to keep the spirit of real music alive. scteeldrums, i must say your opinion appeals me more, his crab cannons were indeed ingenius, even though i'm more of a beethoven fan, bach, to me (and to most) is the cornerstone of all classical music. though i do not have a degree, and can speak only 5 languages, i hope my thoughts will be appreciated
This is one of the most stupendous musical creations of all time, I have adored it since i was a teenager, and I am not a bit religious, quite the opposite.
I love Bach. I love Latin. I love the artistic and meditative aspects of the mass - but I have huge problems with the penetential and sacrificial aspects. Shouldn't the focus be on what Jesus actually taught? Lord, have mercy.
Es lo más hermoso que he escuchado en mi vida! Sientes el poder del Señor, te traslada a su lado y puedes pedir perdón por tus pecados frente a frente. Te amo, Señor! Nunca solos nos dejes...
@sethmalcolmroy "kyrie eleison" is NOT latin, it is, of course, Greek. In Latin it would have been "Domine miserere" as in, e.g. "Miserere nobis" (have mercy upon us). In Agnus Dei it is the "Lamb of God" that is being addressed and that is in Latin but when the "Lord" is addressed, as here (rather than God) for mercy than you have the Kyrie Eleison which is Greek.
I implore any lover of this work to hear the performance by Somary w/The English Chamber Orchestra and singers. Simply the most sublime. "If Bach's not in heaven, I'm not going." W. F. Buckley jr.
this is the most beautifull 'Kyrie Eleison , may be Handel have something like that.And Karl Richter is most good dirigent of works of BACH.Only Celibidache is like him.
I agree that j.s. bach.also Alyas hanna give some thing for music but i dont hear the oriental flavore in fact to me Alyas Hanna .sort of exempel all that is great in westeren and culture just an oppinion
mooi koorwerk, johann s.bach prachtig-duits geintepreteerd. Op een manier innerlijke vrede stichtend, zo wil ik sterven en wederopstaan (bij wijze van) mijn eerste greep in het nieuwe leven is dan weer naar mijn radioinstallatie........
I'm not a fan of this version at all. If I wouldn't have looked, I could have sworn this was Furtwanger conducting a recording striaght out of the 50's. Far too slow and some odd cutoffs.
Frog's legs taste pretty good, kinda like a chicken wing with a lot less meat. It's worth a try if you ever get the chance. I don't know about snails though.
urghh il pass thanks il stick to the chips they do init i was sat in a cafe there and their was a plate of the things i wudnt touch um ,its just not my thing lol
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I agree: I had frog legs a few times, and they taste wonderful. The guy preparing it whould know what he is doing. I ahve tasted snails too... yammy, and they taste wonderful too, albeit, you should have it with lots of garlic, or pesto... deep fried...
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Englandman: try the frog legs and the snails... they taste yummt. I am from the Middle East, living in Calfornia. Try them in Middle Eastern restaurnats...thye know how to prepare the stuff...
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no no im good haha i see frogs in my garden and just the thought about eating one makes me very ill ,its just some thing i could never do..ive done a sea snail thing that wasnt to good .,il just stick to chips or a carrot :)
There are plenty of places in the US that serve frog's legs. Have you ever eaten food from the Louisiana bayou? I'll take frog's legs any day over 'gator, lol. But now I need to know how this is relevant to Bach.
nobody have to say to nobody 1401JSC Personatly i fuck off the rules, im Classic composer and I will never say to people what they have to do cause I fuck off academy and conservatory ect... ect.... this is bullshit =) sorry for my english i'm french but traduce this : "Les gens préfère regardez la forme que le fond."
Kal Münchinger inStuttgart and Karl Richter in München did much work to prepare the more recent "authentic baroque0" performances.
But why double the flutes?
(In the 1960s it was common proactice to double all the woodwing in symphony performances, but iot was usually to combat the massive sound of 60 strings in the orchestra!)
Somebody should have told the Soprano to dress in black ;p
I checked my vocal score and according to that also the violons (only two prescribed, Richter uses 6?) are at least doubled. It's not disturbing at all though, the clear sound of the flutes.
Poor recording quality, as well visually as auditively. However, as the music is absolutely mighty, it somehow "pierces through" these bad conditions. Bach has never been equalled. Simply and truly the greatest.
Actually, both flutes and recorders co-existed, not just at Bach's time, but much before! Transverse flutes were around even during the Medieval times. Before the Baroque times, when the instrument starts being more standarized, there were Renaissance flutes, made in different sizes as a family, according to pitch - in the same fashion than recorders.
And Bach's B minor Mass parts were originally written for the baroque flute, not the recorder!
Well, there are not baroque flutes, but, otherwise, he's just using their direct modern descendants, the modern flutes.
Most of Bach's orchestral parts demand flutes (flauto traverso in original scores), not recorders. You find recorders (flauto dolce in original scores) in Brandenburg 2 & 4 and in his cantata Actus Tragicus, for example, but certainly, you would need flutes for this Mass.
Richter definitely is the top performer of his time and knowledge of the work at that time...but with more scholarship, we now know that this interpretation would probably not have been what Bach had wanted or done had he in fact performed the piece.
My hat goes off to these courageous musicians...because they sound BEAUTIFUL regardless!
PABoi00 2 weeks ago
it sends me to sleep.......in a nice way :)
Keithj136 1 month ago
This, by far, is the most expressive, harrowing and beautiful composition I have ever listened to.
blackfloyd23 2 months ago
@blackfloyd23 Yes, without doubt or debate, it is astonishingly, staggeringly, immensely, ineffably impossibly beautiful.
polymath7 1 month ago
The baroque style conducting began with Lully, who used a massive, heavy, stick. If I remember correctly, he once hit his foot and it caused an infection which killed him. Ok, from Wikipedia: He was beating time by banging a long staff (a precursor to the bâton) against the floor, as was the common practice at the time, when he struck his toe, creating an abscess. The wound turned gangrenous, but Lully refused to have his toe amputated and the gangrene spread, resulting in his death on 22 March.
BestAmateurViolinist 2 months ago
Guys, can't we all agree that it is good music, regardless of its original intentions?
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98kitala 4 months ago
Sorry to all you God naysayers. The theology of Bach is woven throughout all of his compositions whether secular or sacred. All of his music was Soli Deo Gloria. SDG
carrillomark1 5 months ago
@carrillomark1 "Sorry all you God naysayers. The theology of Bach is woven throughout all of his compositions whether secular or sacred. All of his music was Soli Deo Gloria."
And? Exactly what conclusion do you wish to follow from this statement? It's unclear to me precisely how my acceptance of the face value truth of the second sentence of yours I quote supports the implied conclusion in the first. Why should this in any way discourage my naysaying ?
Be clear.
polymath7 4 months ago
@polymath7 I would caution you to be careful about saying that "All of Bach's music was Soli Deo Gloria"...because it was not. Many instances of Bach's music, especially during his time in Cothen was NOT specifically for the church. After 1723, When Bach moved to Leipzig, the compositions he wrote for the Collegium Musicum were also not intended to be sacred in nature.
While he was Lutheran, he was also a businessman, He did what he had to do to support his family.
PABoi00 2 weeks ago
@PABoi00 Your points are well taken, but they appear to be in response to somone else.
polymath7 1 week ago
@carrillomark1 Yeah, so were the Egyptian pyramids. Lets worship amun ra!
leptismagna10 3 months ago 2
Sorry for all you God naysayers. The theology of Bach is found in all of his compositions, along with his belief that all of what he wrote was to the Glory of God. SDG!
carrillomark1 5 months ago
Johann Sebastian Bach > Justin Beiber!
Nefus1988 5 months ago
where they play
juancabezascaceres 5 months ago
Just a tad slow...................
WendellPyles 5 months ago
I sometimes think this and the St Mathew Passion are the two greatest musical achievements the human species has ever produced. Both rival the depth and grandeur of Beethoven's ninth and Missa Solemnis.
polymath7 6 months ago
@polymath7 my vote would go to Bach's Art of Fugue. Which I honestly feel is the greatest achievement of our species in anything. But how do you pick? I can't imagine what it was like to be Bach and have those kinds of things going through his mind. Either it was ecstasy or a living hell.
binkymagnus 5 months ago
@binkymagnus I certainly can't quarrel with that. Bach is one of the absolute titans of human creative genius and 'The Art of the Fugue' -and for that matter 'The Muscial Offering'- are pretty much equally strong candidates for his greatest work.
polymath7 5 months ago
I do prefer one on a part, much cleaner.
beatlesmack9 6 months ago
@beatlesmack9 Bach might not have approved of this...but we will never know...He never got to perform the work!
PABoi00 2 weeks ago
When i first clicked play, I was amazed, this mass is so breathtakingly beautiful
MegaKrishan123 6 months ago
I've heard it said that "Western Civilization's" greatest accomplishment is not in its science, philosophy or religion, but its music; after hearing this piece, I kind of understand why.
MooMooManist 6 months ago
This is really an experience, see it live if you can
y7u7r7i 6 months ago
One of the beautiest pieces I've ever heard but awful sound quality...
redbull101991 7 months ago
watch?v=EHtHrCZLYh8 =D
Ieneg2l0 7 months ago
"This is not what Bach had in mind" >> Bach is dead, you're alive. Listen to it and make it the way you like it.
maricahn 7 months ago
The audio quality is SHIT.
maricahn 7 months ago
Excellent. Vintage Bach!
bamlrb 7 months ago
Tempo, no mercy when Richter conducts. He gets it. The Unstoppable Force of J.S.Bach in the name of God.
mikakrstic 8 months ago
God is talking to me through Bach's music. He told me that I'm not perfect right now.. and I must..
kknots 8 months ago
It is the Lord's music, and it is beautiful to our hearing
celebrei 9 months ago
@SymphonyofSorrow Hahaha Hilarious!
Hanksss 9 months ago
if you can get one by Helmuth Rilling, that would be a quality performance.
jazzysax123 9 months ago
@jazzysax123 Our school is actually doing the Bach Mass in B minor and Helmuth Rilling is conducting us.
elrondrecords 9 months ago
Hey, I want to buy a recording of this, I would like some advise on whaich conductor and soloists, thanks.
beatlesmack9 9 months ago
@beatlesmack9: Hello, I would recommend to you the recording of Karl-Friedrich Beringer with the Windsbacher Chor, Thomas Quasthoff and others. A tip for insiders! In the US, it's been released by the label rondeau (ASIN: B0000XKAS4). Enjoy it!
TurbojugendJoe 8 months ago
This is the Dave School Mechwarrior music! Nice. Bach was light years ahead of his time. Had no idea this was a Bach piece the first time I heard it.
susumu07 10 months ago
SUBLIME ETERNO NON MI STANCHERO' MAI DI ASCOLTARLO,GRAZIE KARL
TheMauthe 11 months ago
This video is a lesson in how NOT to perform baroque music!
goldenthroat86 11 months ago
@goldenthroat86 Not all historic interpretations of baroque music are good. Richter is not historic, but he gets a very deep emotional effect in his Bach interpretations. I prefer the Matthauspassion conducted by Richter more than the Harnnoncourt one (for example), even when the Harnoncourt is closer to the baroque playing and Richter is a little romantic. The historic interpretations are incredible, but not the only good.
hatemeron 10 months ago
@goldenthroat86 To whom, then, should we listen? Please don't refer us to some bloodless, heartless, vibrato-les version! The Baroque era was one of passion, sharp accents, dissonance, grandiosity, and stark contrast in all its art forms!
billyguns2 9 months ago
@goldenthroat86 That is the reason why this excerpt is that good! Why should we go back in development?! Or do you really think that Bach himself would use old instruments if he would have had the chance to work with those great instruments we have today? Amazing interpretation.....
TheShokorabbit 9 months ago
@TheShokorabbit I said nothing about "old instruments." It's a fine performance, but I don't agree with the old fashioned "cast of thousands" approach in performing such pieces.
goldenthroat86 9 months ago
@TheShokorabbit Bach would use instruments of his time. He was a practical man. Bu he DID use old instruments, and that;s why we should use them today, if we are interested to hear what he had in mind. Just like at home, we cook our old-time classic potatoes in an all-time-classic pot, and not in the MW.
zinktitanum 8 months ago
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Something tells me though that the full, powerful Richter Bach-sound is much closer to what Bach had in mind than the thin period hip-hop sound that is fashionable today.
herodot2 8 months ago in playlist orchestral baroque
@herodot2 2 remarks: 1. it is very important to determine "what" is this "something" that "tells you" so. 2nd. Maybe you listen to the wrong ensembles, because the period instruments ensembles that I listen to, do not match your description ;)
zinktitanum 8 months ago
@zinktitanum:
there are also period performers I like--say Harnoncourt, or Suzuki. Because both are great musicians.
I guess all I appeal for is openness. Richter extracted beauty, drama and power that is a genuine part of Bach. The romantic Busoni or Siloti transcriptions are great music, as are Suzuki's small-ensemble performances. Art of Fugue is superb with piano, strings, trombones, percussion. Seek what's in Bach's music, not what he allegedly had in mind. Who knows what that was.
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Sylvain894 11 months ago
This piece is truly the very essence of sublimity, a work of undulatedly profound genius. Thank bach for his music.
Sophietteus 1 year ago
I loved this piece. But I enjoy all the Classics.
Thank you for posting
Leo
megaleo451 1 year ago
I ABSOLUTELY love Richter's method of conducting. So precise...it reminds me of what I would term the "British school" of conducting cathedral choirs. Would this be a baroque style of direction? Does anyone know where I could learn more about this method?
Wally773MTG 1 year ago 5
@Wally773MTG There are many books available in the library of St. Martin's in the Field in London. The church is the home of an exceptional choir and uses the so-called 'English mode'. The church is the Northumberland Avenue end of Trafalgar Square, in the Avenue there is a pib dedicated to Sherlock Holmes memorabilia.
Else try the Adrian Boult foundation library or call Colin Davis. If all else fails find Christian Gutemann, easily the best non-Brit exponent of the method.
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xxpeniskingxx 1 year ago
I've just come home from singing the B Minor in Winchester Cathedral. It's not an easy sing at all - it's VERY difficult indeed - but well worth the challenge.
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1hakon 1 year ago
@1hakon i love bach, but miles davis puts me to sleep. i guess im alone there
jcracker 1 year ago 3
@1hakon Just a personal opinion of course - Miles is the level of genius that comes around once every 50 years or so. Bach is the level of genius that comes around once every 500 years or so. If you consider all forms of art and knowledge I'd say every 10/100 years for the each of them.
scsteeldrums 1 year ago
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1hakon 1 year ago
@1hakon I can tell English is your second language, so I'll cut you some slack on the fact that most of what you said doesn't make sense grammatically (and I can't understand it). I just don't know why you are getting upset about something that follows a statement that I am just expressing my personal opinion. Are you upset that I have my own opinion and that its different from yours? Come on dude, just enjoy the video!
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1hakon 1 year ago
@1hakon I have 2 degrees, one in music. You can call me a greenhorn being young, but that doesn't make it true. There were several Bach experts at my music college, and I took several graduate level courses on Bach with them. I don't claim to be an expert, but I believe my experience entitles me to an opinion. In fact, I don't believe any expertise is necessary for an opinion. I studied jazz as well, and I have tremendous respect for Miles. I just don't think hes a genius like Bach. OK with you?
scsteeldrums 1 year ago
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1hakon 1 year ago
@1hakon Actually I specifically told you that I was NOT critiquing your English, since I could tell it wasn't your first language. I was just letting you know that I couldn't understand what you said. You keep bringing it up as though its pertinent. You want an example of the genius of Bach? Read through some of his crab canons. There is a level of genius present which is absolutely staggering.
scsteeldrums 1 year ago
@scsteeldrums ah, how i love discussions between fellow music lovers! brings joy to my hart to see that people still try to keep the spirit of real music alive. scteeldrums, i must say your opinion appeals me more, his crab cannons were indeed ingenius, even though i'm more of a beethoven fan, bach, to me (and to most) is the cornerstone of all classical music. though i do not have a degree, and can speak only 5 languages, i hope my thoughts will be appreciated
plagueofangels666 1 year ago
@plagueofangels666 Thank you for your thought. Mine was criticized and I fell in a troll well.
scsteeldrums 1 year ago
@scsteeldrums miles is more than every 50 years buddy
orstenwald 1 year ago
This is one of the most stupendous musical creations of all time, I have adored it since i was a teenager, and I am not a bit religious, quite the opposite.
angietihi 1 year ago 2
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1hakon 1 year ago
Absolutely awesome!
meluzyna55 1 year ago
I love Bach. I love Latin. I love the artistic and meditative aspects of the mass - but I have huge problems with the penetential and sacrificial aspects. Shouldn't the focus be on what Jesus actually taught? Lord, have mercy.
redletterchurch 1 year ago
ook jij gelijk wat ik via dit medium te horen en zien kreeg van het werk van de amsterdammmer ton koopmans was indrukwekkend! erg mooi!
p0pkillerrr 1 year ago
@SymphonyofSorrow thats right.
p0pkillerrr 1 year ago
awesome music. THE masterpiece, but an awful interpretation!!! hear ton koopmans version of historically informed performance....!!!
jederundniemand 1 year ago
@jederundniemand je hebt gelijk. toon koopmans indrukwekkend vertolker jhbachs cantate en oratopria
p0pkillerrr 1 year ago
Magnifico! Estupenda! me faltam palavras para descrever o tamanho desta obra.
METALCLASSICO16 1 year ago
Es lo más hermoso que he escuchado en mi vida! Sientes el poder del Señor, te traslada a su lado y puedes pedir perdón por tus pecados frente a frente. Te amo, Señor! Nunca solos nos dejes...
ADEIMANY 1 year ago
This is best of i ever seen and hear...
PiterNight 1 year ago
God = 0. Bach = 1. God < Bach.
Bach Beets Battlestar Galactica!
lirothen 1 year ago 4
@lirothen that makes you -1. your joke was a complete fail.
deandusk 1 year ago
What is with the terrible terrible audio quality of this video? It sounds like you recorded a metal LP with a paper needle.
silentplummet 1 year ago
@silentplummet Well, at least they went through everything :)
dutaromony 1 year ago
This is great. Once upon a time I used to be in a choir and we were singing the Mass in B minor. I was a Tenor that time...a good while ago...
netwolff 1 year ago
Bach is god, with a little "g". Nothin on earth matches or comes close to his music. It is heavenly, most sublime and holy.
kourouyann 1 year ago
I have no idea what these people are singing, but praise this holy music and the musicians who dedicate their lives to these works.
For people who don't believe, LISTEN. Music is a gift from god. You don't have to praise god, just admit his genius
raditzthecabbage 1 year ago
@raditzthecabbage Yup, he put far more effort into this than Bach himself.
Infact, I would go so far as to say that Bach was completely talentless and that good old God put in all of the hard work himself. Silly Bach.
TheSpeshulShark 1 year ago
@raditzthecabbage Yup, he put far more effort into this than Bach himself.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that Bach was completely talentless and that good old God put in all of the hard work himself. Silly Bach.
TheSpeshulShark 1 year ago
@raditzthecabbage Holly shit . Believers don't need any music !! They believe and shut up when top mankind gives the best of mens'dreams .
GEOFFROYX 1 year ago
@raditzthecabbage
It is little strange to ask someone to admit the genius of someone whom they don't believe to exist.
gr0mithtimon 1 year ago 2
@raditzthecabbage,
the choir is singing the two words "kyrie eleison" over and over.
kyrie eleison is latin for "Lord, have mercy" and is standard material for any mass.
so in essence it is a prayer imploring God for His mercy on sinful humankind.
holy music? you are couldn't be more right!
sethmalcolmroy 1 year ago
@sethmalcolmroy actually it is greek.
deandusk 1 year ago
@deandusk actually it is Latin as are all of the christian prayers from bach's time
123cheftom 1 year ago
@123cheftom yes. i mean the origin is greek. it is a borrowed term.
deandusk 1 year ago
@deandusk yea i know. my bad.
sethmalcolmroy 1 year ago
@sethmalcolmroy "kyrie eleison" is NOT latin, it is, of course, Greek. In Latin it would have been "Domine miserere" as in, e.g. "Miserere nobis" (have mercy upon us). In Agnus Dei it is the "Lamb of God" that is being addressed and that is in Latin but when the "Lord" is addressed, as here (rather than God) for mercy than you have the Kyrie Eleison which is Greek.
sorim1967 1 year ago
@sorim1967 sorry my mistake. i'd read that already but i forgot because the rest of the Mass is in latin.
sethmalcolmroy 1 year ago
I implore any lover of this work to hear the performance by Somary w/The English Chamber Orchestra and singers. Simply the most sublime. "If Bach's not in heaven, I'm not going." W. F. Buckley jr.
iraeich 1 year ago
Musica di rara bellezza e profonda concezione religiosa.-
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It’s almost as good as Justin Bieber.
Widmerpool99 1 year ago
superb mass, one of the main masterpieces, of the many that Bach composed
beethomozart 1 year ago
this is the most beautifull 'Kyrie Eleison , may be Handel have something like that.And Karl Richter is most good dirigent of works of BACH.Only Celibidache is like him.
doprescu99 1 year ago
WHAT A MASTERPIECE ITS REALLY ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE HEARD IT REALLY INFLICTS THE POWER OF OUR CREATOR!!!
JehovasWitness1 1 year ago
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Bach made this, put the credit where it belongs
PalfraDK 1 year ago
I agree that j.s. bach.also Alyas hanna give some thing for music but i dont hear the oriental flavore in fact to me Alyas Hanna .sort of exempel all that is great in westeren and culture just an oppinion
akhmm 1 year ago
Thanks be to God for Bach and his music.
BrotherAlphonsusMary 1 year ago
mooi koorwerk, johann s.bach prachtig-duits geintepreteerd. Op een manier innerlijke vrede stichtend, zo wil ik sterven en wederopstaan (bij wijze van) mijn eerste greep in het nieuwe leven is dan weer naar mijn radioinstallatie........
p0pkillerrr 1 year ago
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Simply Fantastic!
MarsMartz 1 year ago
@SymphonyofSorrow made me laugh!!! thanks.
hatstalker 1 year ago
Gracias, es mi obra favorita. Nunca se ha escrito nada tan bello. Ojalá algún día logre ser un apice de lo que fue Juan Sebastian arroyo.
joredugarvel 1 year ago
Bach is the greatest of the great!
vanya2309 1 year ago 6
some one said that the french dont eat frog legs and i proved they do and it went on smiple
englandman2008 1 year ago
I'm not a fan of this version at all. If I wouldn't have looked, I could have sworn this was Furtwanger conducting a recording striaght out of the 50's. Far too slow and some odd cutoffs.
bbierlein 1 year ago
@bbierlein Furtwangler is god.
kiipable 1 year ago
this is straight up heritage!!!! bach layin' down the tuffest shit!!!
doomcontrol 1 year ago
@doomcontrol Bach indeed laid down some mad beats.
BenJohnsonDotNet 1 year ago 54
@BenJohnsonDotNet Oh my god that comment is funny.
crassisdead 1 year ago
..,.se ancora ..resistiamo....
grazie...!
leonboelmann 1 year ago
haha, four flutes! i like that!
mingweicello 2 years ago
Don't "haha" at Bach.
HammerOvThor 1 year ago
haha xD you right but you know, french dont eat frog ^^ this is a Myth... Or where ?say it to me i need eat it.
Plagiarisme 2 years ago
they do eat frogs ...and belive me i know ive been there many times ...they eat frog leg's ...and snail's sick people
englandman2008 2 years ago
Frog's legs taste pretty good, kinda like a chicken wing with a lot less meat. It's worth a try if you ever get the chance. I don't know about snails though.
daemonkrog 2 years ago
urghh il pass thanks il stick to the chips they do init i was sat in a cafe there and their was a plate of the things i wudnt touch um ,its just not my thing lol
englandman2008 2 years ago
lol, Oh well. I don't really blame you. They are seriously gross looking.
daemonkrog 2 years ago
too chewwy is what i heard ...but the rest of the food they do is proper lush just not frog or snails
englandman2008 2 years ago
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I agree: I had frog legs a few times, and they taste wonderful. The guy preparing it whould know what he is doing. I ahve tasted snails too... yammy, and they taste wonderful too, albeit, you should have it with lots of garlic, or pesto... deep fried...
oulalaaaa...
kourouyan 2 years ago
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Englandman: try the frog legs and the snails... they taste yummt. I am from the Middle East, living in Calfornia. Try them in Middle Eastern restaurnats...thye know how to prepare the stuff...
kourouyan 2 years ago
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no no im good haha i see frogs in my garden and just the thought about eating one makes me very ill ,its just some thing i could never do..ive done a sea snail thing that wasnt to good .,il just stick to chips or a carrot :)
englandman2008 2 years ago
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@kourouyan Frog legs and snails are very good(I don't know what they have to do with Bach's Mass)but I do like them.
lemonite1 1 year ago
There are plenty of places in the US that serve frog's legs. Have you ever eaten food from the Louisiana bayou? I'll take frog's legs any day over 'gator, lol. But now I need to know how this is relevant to Bach.
halaluani 1 year ago
Simply Majestic!
NothingMaster 2 years ago 2
It is humbling to think that such genius actually existed on earth! Inspiring!
pureaKero 2 years ago 4
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nobody have to say to nobody 1401JSC Personatly i fuck off the rules, im Classic composer and I will never say to people what they have to do cause I fuck off academy and conservatory ect... ect.... this is bullshit =) sorry for my english i'm french but traduce this : "Les gens préfère regardez la forme que le fond."
Plagiarisme 2 years ago
Plagiarisme, I'll forgive your English, but how about laying off the obscenities at least when discussing a sacred work like Bach's B Minor Mass.
wdashwor 2 years ago 8
This is human, and Obscenities is what I am, dont care about that.
Plagiarisme 2 years ago
For an idiot, you certainly are a fool. Translate that, Frog-boy.
LazlosPlane 2 years ago 2
Too slow. I much prefer Gardiner's rendering
violinoamore 2 years ago
Richter s Bach belongs to heaven,Gardiners to vanity
ocwhanappi 2 years ago
Yes. Beautifully true :)
agnesnaszlady 2 years ago
o yes. Definitely.
feetje2008 2 years ago
@violinoamore
I don't. Dry dogmatic BS that reduces the music to rubble.
herodot2 2 years ago
Kal Münchinger inStuttgart and Karl Richter in München did much work to prepare the more recent "authentic baroque0" performances.
But why double the flutes?
(In the 1960s it was common proactice to double all the woodwing in symphony performances, but iot was usually to combat the massive sound of 60 strings in the orchestra!)
Somebody should have told the Soprano to dress in black ;p
1401JSC 2 years ago
I checked my vocal score and according to that also the violons (only two prescribed, Richter uses 6?) are at least doubled. It's not disturbing at all though, the clear sound of the flutes.
And....yes the soprano should have worn black!
feetje2008 2 years ago
Wow he has a huge baton. Oh, and his conducting stick is pretty big, too.
GryphonWahle 2 years ago
Hoy volvi a recordar que la grandeza si existe.. today i remembered than the greatness exists..
NIETSZCHESEVEN 2 years ago
is this karl richter conducting?
iskendersavasir 2 years ago
yes this is Karl Richter. Very recognizable.
feetje2008 2 years ago
Yes It Is.
lilotheanimal 2 years ago
Poor recording quality, as well visually as auditively. However, as the music is absolutely mighty, it somehow "pierces through" these bad conditions. Bach has never been equalled. Simply and truly the greatest.
jsnauwaert 2 years ago 5
"auditively". I like it. Maybe it will catch on.
stperkin 2 years ago 3
wana bet? search mordenman and watch video 24 and 25
rayfights123 2 years ago
greatest of all
babality2 2 years ago
Who knew a devout Lutheran could write such a beautiful Mass? :-)
Thank you so much for this.
dcbandnerd 2 years ago 2
everybody who's ever heard a note by Bach, I guess.
CarricThura 2 years ago 21
hahahaaa :D
tumbee111 2 years ago
There you go. Verdi was at best agnostic and his requiem is fantastic.
awyliu 2 years ago
wow
thejugglenaut91 2 years ago
What do you mean, "who knew?" This Kyrie is 500 years old! Every Lutheran knows. Bach is the 5th evangelist.
Norskyone 2 years ago
Bellissimo.
maria040174 2 years ago
É fantástico !!!
wama58 2 years ago 3
so dark, i love it
nano5896 2 years ago
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He should not conduct Bach music. Wagner - this is environment for Richter.
Myszkin127 2 years ago
Deus omnis super. Amat Dominus omnes in terra, et salvabat omnes nos per Jesu Christe unigenitum filius suus, unigenitum non factum.
Lassann 2 years ago 4
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
ClassicRockSovereign 2 years ago 4
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Why are they using Flutes???!!!
Robzie123 2 years ago
Why not
what's wrong with the flutes???
newdeepspace 2 years ago 6
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Flutes were not around in Bach's day, they used recorders.
Actually I think the flute was just becoming an instrument, but it is cutting it fine
Robzie123 2 years ago
Actually, both flutes and recorders co-existed, not just at Bach's time, but much before! Transverse flutes were around even during the Medieval times. Before the Baroque times, when the instrument starts being more standarized, there were Renaissance flutes, made in different sizes as a family, according to pitch - in the same fashion than recorders.
And Bach's B minor Mass parts were originally written for the baroque flute, not the recorder!
learnsomething008 2 years ago 4
so you could say richter is being more historicly accurate by using flutes?
mahler151 2 years ago
Well, there are not baroque flutes, but, otherwise, he's just using their direct modern descendants, the modern flutes.
Most of Bach's orchestral parts demand flutes (flauto traverso in original scores), not recorders. You find recorders (flauto dolce in original scores) in Brandenburg 2 & 4 and in his cantata Actus Tragicus, for example, but certainly, you would need flutes for this Mass.
learnsomething008 2 years ago 2
ah, i see. thank you.
mahler151 2 years ago
Neither were pianos but nobodies complainin'.
Akee1990 2 years ago
You're RIGHT, nothing wrong with the flutes!
learnsomething008 2 years ago
its a awesome song god how much i love it ;)
COCOLOCO123456789 2 years ago
The "Kyrie" is the first part of the liturgy of the "Ordinary" of the "Mass." Any Mass, Requiem or not.
You do NOT find it in "all sacred arias."
LazlosPlane 2 years ago 2
Kyrie eleison means "Lord, have mercy". You 'll find that in all Requiems and sacred arias.
fioreseludo 2 years ago