I agree front1 1 gutter ...kinda wish you could just hear Moody with out the big white(no offense) noise in the background...but I guess this was the vehicle that allowed/inspired this melodic solo...yes?
@hetamoses I agree, but the way the soloist works against that stiffness creates an incredible contrast that i find favorable. i guess, what i do appreciate about the "stiff" drummer is his unquestionable pocket. Nothin frames a solo like a solid pocket. Some drummers swing but tend to rush or compromise the pulse in subtle but detectable way. Also, this is Big Band...its invariably gonna sound a lil "stiff" compared to a trio or quartet etc.
Love this tune. I was a young comedian working cruise ships and I needed a "walk on" tune -- a play on. I'm 6' 9" tall. The ship's orchestra graciously played "Giant Steps" for my entrance and even wrote the charts to give me for the future.
Tye Tribbett used this in a old song he has called I Can't Turn Around and it was "Smashing!" lol I heard this today on the Sirius Radio jazz channel and had to come and look it up.
the really cool thing about moody is that he does not understand very much theory- that is- how chords work and why certain notes work over certain chords, and most of his improvisation is done by ear. I had a chance to talk with him and he said that most of the time he doesn't read changes- he just plays what he hears in his head and makes the ideas come out of the other end of the horn. That is so impressive to me!!!
Gone for 42 years, and only now popularized by bands, commercial and pop music. Hmmm..., sounds like people are recognizing a genius. You know, they're dead longer than they lived, before their famous. What was it the Pulitzer commitee said about 'Trane when they awarded him a posthumous citation: "For his masterful composition, supreme musicianship, and iconic centrality to the history of jazz? "Masterful" ,"Supreme" and "Iconic". Well just Roll over, Beethoven, and tell Tchaikovsky the news.
hm. would never think this tune could be proper for big band arrangement. i'm suprised, but in the good way. nice and sweet piece of music they managed to create =]
I thought the solo was particularly musical and non-repetitive. At first I thought it was just me, but then I saw your post and I knew I was on to something!
Haha, you could tell James didn't like getting cut off so quick...the band barely gave him 1 minute to play, and he wasn't even warmed up yet. At 2:28 he decides to barge back in without permission (Go James!). At 2:44, he hit his climax, but didn't know the song wasn't over (Can't blame him).
Don't you at least find it odd that James was playing over the "head" at the end? It's possible it was written into the arrangement, but that would be non-standard. It's also possible that he worked this out with the band in rehearsal...but then again it's also possible he just came back in on the spot.
One thing's for sure, if it wasn't written for him to come in there, audience still wouldn't have a clue :D
The hardest thing about Giant Steps and Countdown is REALLY improvising. Only a great musician can do them without repeating the same ideas over and over and sounding stiff and mechanical. If you can weave a musical and lyrical line through these, it's a real achievement. Oh, and trying to comp them is also a drag!
I disagree. Good musicians can repeat ideas in solos. Listen to Coltrane's original solo on this; he plays the same thing over the same part of the song (the AMaj7 to C7) almost ever time it comes up. He even carries it over to the alternate take. Sometimes repeating ideas gives the listener something to latch onto.
I don't really agree. It's okay to develop ideas with a similar melodic contour. I'm not crazy about Coltrane's solo from the record. While we are all in his debt, I think there are people who followed who played it more creatively. My favorites are Freddie Hubbard, Woody Shaw, Larry Young, Joe Henderson, and Joe Farrell.
Hey wait a minute, Modes, coltranes solo was in 1959 and no one, I mean no-one then could have even dreamed to have solo on it then. People later on have worked out how to solo on it, so obviously it ws not melodious, but was still a fucking good solo.
True. Specially on this song , up tempo 7 w/ so many key modulations, I read an analysis on Tranes solo on Downbeat or some other magazine and the writer was showing that particularly for the first 8 bars (you meant BMaj7 to D7 right?), there aren't really many different ways to play them and still make them sound like those changes.
Yeap right ! I agree. I think Trane's solo on giant steps was probably the best solo (IMO) on that tune, even though he plays the same licks over and over ;-). Let's not fight about music...
it's so hard to get through the changes without using simple 1235, 1357, 3579 etc patterns. the most alterations trane used was a flat 9 once in a while. also he used a lot of the same licks because in the end he invented the progression (first 8 bars of the tune) and it's basically an exercise so he used the material he came up with which once again is very limited because of the incredibly fast chord movements.
It is not in the technique of coltrane's solos that define him as the artist he is. Coltrane plays every one of his tunes flawlessly. In every recording I have heard, Coltrane has been confident, melodic, and closer to perfect than anyone else has.
Don't get me wrong, fam, I never said that ;-). I was just talking about that tune in particular. He didn't need to drop 10 runs a bar to sound crazy ! Trane is a legend. And if I ever have a doubt about it, I'll just go and listen to Naima. Period. ;)
i love when people say on youtube "oh, it's just a few ii-v-Is in 3 keys" about giant steps. the changes are hard folks, even in lower tempos if you really want to outline the chords and not just play randomly in the tonic major scale. and as someone said earlier, lets see your versions if you think this tune is easy. every respected musician i know personally agrees this is a hard tune to play melodically on.
i know what you mean. before i've fallen into jazz i thought 'oh, it's just playing over chords'. a year has passed since i've began some serious jazz-guitar studying and... i can't believe i thought it's simple, banal and not creative. now i think exactly opposite =]
great soloist. I saw him yesterday at a clinic of his in Seattle. unfortunately, this was done about 50% slower than it should be, and they were playing WAY to loud to hear the soloist. listen to the original Coltrane version. it is on a different level from this band.
nice, i'd love to see him myself. i agree this was so slow...its kinda smokey though, i like this but with the exception of the and drowning james out as you said. i have giant steps the album and it is of course amazing! :P
estoy de acuerdo esta itnerpretacione s pobre ni si quiera se compara a el sentimiento que coltrane ponia en sus piezas, creo que el jazz con orquesta es muy pobre
This is poorly done. Since the beginning, the pianist is playing his own little part instead of comping the actual melody - a complete mess. Then it gets good, with the sax solo, but halfway through it the whole band drowns him out! It sounds like a big mess.
Do you? The pianist is playing as if he is leading, instead of COMPLEMENTING the music. Hence it sounds like a mess. No-one likes it when someone else is seeking attention when you're supposed to be leading. Make sense now?
I met James Moody a few years ago at the Toronto Jazz Festival, and without a doubt, Mr. Moody is the most easy going, down to earth and approachable jazz musician I ever met.
actually the wholes song is composed of ii-v-i. yes the chords change every two beats but with the two five one it makes it so you are changing scales like every two measures.
What most people don't know about this song: In the improv section, the chords containing the right notes to improv change every 2 beats. So its Change beat beat Change beat beat Change It's absolutely INSANE to try and improv on.
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Let's take one of Coltrane's best known tunes and simplify it into a sentence. Why don't I just sit on the computer and make everything sound really easy instead of giving a music school 30 grand a year to teach me a fraction of what goes on in Coltrane's head? Yeah, I can do that.
Ya know, the less you know about music, the easier things seem. You put no thought or emotion into what you play. You're one of those "Blues Scale" guys, aren't you?
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you know what? you can shove your degree up ur ass cuz i rlly dont give a shit what u think.imma play my sax and b happy wid myself and ignore the haters who are 30 yrs old critizing me..i didnt come to youtube to hear your 'im so good cuz i went to music school' FUCK YOU
You're about 10 years too high. and I don't have a degree yet. If I had a degree, I wouldn't currently be attending the school. Nice problem solving skills.
But, you're totally over-simplifying things. The more you learn about theory, the more appreciation you will have for this.
I'm not the type of person to say "I'm so good because..." but I will put someone in their place if they seem to be one of those people. And when you say things like "The Blues scale is too original," I can tell.
not fast enuf!!!
FriedFriez 1 month ago
@FriedFriez why not?
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ZupraVisor 6 months ago
We missed you ,MR Moody.
gardner593 8 months ago
pops went in on the solo i swear
jswitch2010 8 months ago
amazing how relaxed he is
CloudNine01 8 months ago
Great big band performance and solo by the legendary James Moody on tenor sax, playing a great arrangement of a Coltrane classic composition.
RaiderEleven 9 months ago
power!
MrQuotidian 9 months ago
The three persons who disliked this should take GIANT STEPS into oncomming trafic!
MrAx10 10 months ago 5
true stuff sometimes it's hard for a person to touch a kings crown but he's touched
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loved it, great
pwnmaster9 1 year ago
powerful !
reanimator9 1 year ago
WOW he was just one extremely awesome cat.
saxylarry26 1 year ago
I saw him live and met him after! He was great! RIP
stalzz 1 year ago
RIP JAMES MOODY YOU WILL BE MISSED!
Dmila220 1 year ago
I agree front1 1 gutter ...kinda wish you could just hear Moody with out the big white(no offense) noise in the background...but I guess this was the vehicle that allowed/inspired this melodic solo...yes?
winesax 1 year ago
I Love the Composition, the Flow, the LIFE. Listening to this makes me want to get up and dance and PAINT!!!
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MelissaAyr 1 year ago
Very melodic solo by the master, James Moody. Think what you want about the band, they are quite good.
martyg374 1 year ago
so not swinging. drummer is as stiff as a board
hetamoses 1 year ago
@hetamoses I agree, but the way the soloist works against that stiffness creates an incredible contrast that i find favorable. i guess, what i do appreciate about the "stiff" drummer is his unquestionable pocket. Nothin frames a solo like a solid pocket. Some drummers swing but tend to rush or compromise the pulse in subtle but detectable way. Also, this is Big Band...its invariably gonna sound a lil "stiff" compared to a trio or quartet etc.
okturus 1 year ago
@okturus LOL pocket? Ur kiddin me. Stop the ramblin mate
hetamoses 1 year ago
IMO Moody plays well over these impossible changes. The Jankowski band is like all German big bands: fine musicianship, but sluggish, not crisp.
BuckshotLaFunke 1 year ago
That was really good and I loved the lyrical sax (and piano) solos...who WAS that 'masked pianist'?
heru1966 1 year ago
Love this tune. I was a young comedian working cruise ships and I needed a "walk on" tune -- a play on. I'm 6' 9" tall. The ship's orchestra graciously played "Giant Steps" for my entrance and even wrote the charts to give me for the future.
tallpaul521 1 year ago
This is one of the best arrangements I've heard of "Giant Steps" yet
MrCameronAllan 1 year ago
I like that kind of music. I think James Moody isn't creative musician but I could feel his way of tribute for Trane.
INGEN0423 1 year ago
Tye Tribbett used this in a old song he has called I Can't Turn Around and it was "Smashing!" lol I heard this today on the Sirius Radio jazz channel and had to come and look it up.
Da0Illest0Drumma 1 year ago
the really cool thing about moody is that he does not understand very much theory- that is- how chords work and why certain notes work over certain chords, and most of his improvisation is done by ear. I had a chance to talk with him and he said that most of the time he doesn't read changes- he just plays what he hears in his head and makes the ideas come out of the other end of the horn. That is so impressive to me!!!
thepeople1325 1 year ago
Very nice, big perfomance.
BennyMax37 1 year ago
Like a wall of sound made of sick chords. . . beautiful!
TheDickyShow 2 years ago 4
full of power !
gabrielebalzerano 2 years ago 8
@gabrielebalzerano more power!
bob22222222222222100 1 year ago
That's bloody good
John27346 2 years ago 6
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fenomjr13 2 years ago
Gone for 42 years, and only now popularized by bands, commercial and pop music. Hmmm..., sounds like people are recognizing a genius. You know, they're dead longer than they lived, before their famous. What was it the Pulitzer commitee said about 'Trane when they awarded him a posthumous citation: "For his masterful composition, supreme musicianship, and iconic centrality to the history of jazz? "Masterful" ,"Supreme" and "Iconic". Well just Roll over, Beethoven, and tell Tchaikovsky the news.
lamontlewis 2 years ago 4
This wasn't recorded yesterday you know
porter7954 2 years ago
hm. would never think this tune could be proper for big band arrangement. i'm suprised, but in the good way. nice and sweet piece of music they managed to create =]
axiluss 2 years ago 2
This is one of the most melodic solos on Giant Steps I've ever heard! That lick and the following line at about 1:27-1:37 is beautiful
front11gutter 2 years ago 14
I thought the solo was particularly musical and non-repetitive. At first I thought it was just me, but then I saw your post and I knew I was on to something!
Modes9 2 years ago
@front11gutter WHAT ABOUT TRANE'S SOLO
bob22222222222222100 1 year ago
@front11gutter the most melodic i heard was the one at 2:00 - 2:10
greati9 1 year ago
Haha, you could tell James didn't like getting cut off so quick...the band barely gave him 1 minute to play, and he wasn't even warmed up yet. At 2:28 he decides to barge back in without permission (Go James!). At 2:44, he hit his climax, but didn't know the song wasn't over (Can't blame him).
UltraMN 2 years ago 2
hahahah you have no idea what your talking about
handdancin 2 years ago 6
Don't you at least find it odd that James was playing over the "head" at the end? It's possible it was written into the arrangement, but that would be non-standard. It's also possible that he worked this out with the band in rehearsal...but then again it's also possible he just came back in on the spot.
One thing's for sure, if it wasn't written for him to come in there, audience still wouldn't have a clue :D
UltraMN 2 years ago
Look up the word "jazz" on wikipedia.
macflyfilm 2 years ago
LOL
ncodrington 2 years ago 2
i agree
rowanhudsonmusic 2 years ago
so basically you dont like soloing?
jhg123456 2 years ago
i agree with hendrixcommamartin- repition is a very important thing to do when soloing. its a one of the main parts of improvising
blakethebold 2 years ago
nice arrangement
dukes150 2 years ago
whose arrangement?
trane1959 3 years ago
comme a son habitude james moody travaille a l arrachee lui specialiste de la fute nose
malilacreuse 3 years ago
The hardest thing about Giant Steps and Countdown is REALLY improvising. Only a great musician can do them without repeating the same ideas over and over and sounding stiff and mechanical. If you can weave a musical and lyrical line through these, it's a real achievement. Oh, and trying to comp them is also a drag!
Modes9 3 years ago
I disagree. Good musicians can repeat ideas in solos. Listen to Coltrane's original solo on this; he plays the same thing over the same part of the song (the AMaj7 to C7) almost ever time it comes up. He even carries it over to the alternate take. Sometimes repeating ideas gives the listener something to latch onto.
HendrixcommaMartin 2 years ago 4
I don't really agree. It's okay to develop ideas with a similar melodic contour. I'm not crazy about Coltrane's solo from the record. While we are all in his debt, I think there are people who followed who played it more creatively. My favorites are Freddie Hubbard, Woody Shaw, Larry Young, Joe Henderson, and Joe Farrell.
Modes9 2 years ago
Hey wait a minute, Modes, coltranes solo was in 1959 and no one, I mean no-one then could have even dreamed to have solo on it then. People later on have worked out how to solo on it, so obviously it ws not melodious, but was still a fucking good solo.
Rugt980 2 years ago
im just curious what it is u dont like about trane's solo?
davidhilton 2 years ago
True. Specially on this song , up tempo 7 w/ so many key modulations, I read an analysis on Tranes solo on Downbeat or some other magazine and the writer was showing that particularly for the first 8 bars (you meant BMaj7 to D7 right?), there aren't really many different ways to play them and still make them sound like those changes.
tiluriso 2 years ago
I actually meant Gmaj7 to Bb7. I was looking at it in a different key for some reason. My bad.
HendrixcommaMartin 2 years ago
Yeap right ! I agree. I think Trane's solo on giant steps was probably the best solo (IMO) on that tune, even though he plays the same licks over and over ;-). Let's not fight about music...
FlowJazz 2 years ago
NOBODY can Touch Coltranes Solo On that Song..... ITs RIDICULOUS lol
JazzFanMan19 2 years ago
it's so hard to get through the changes without using simple 1235, 1357, 3579 etc patterns. the most alterations trane used was a flat 9 once in a while. also he used a lot of the same licks because in the end he invented the progression (first 8 bars of the tune) and it's basically an exercise so he used the material he came up with which once again is very limited because of the incredibly fast chord movements.
danksam11 2 years ago 2
It is not in the technique of coltrane's solos that define him as the artist he is. Coltrane plays every one of his tunes flawlessly. In every recording I have heard, Coltrane has been confident, melodic, and closer to perfect than anyone else has.
PianoHero101 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, fam, I never said that ;-). I was just talking about that tune in particular. He didn't need to drop 10 runs a bar to sound crazy ! Trane is a legend. And if I ever have a doubt about it, I'll just go and listen to Naima. Period. ;)
FlowJazz 2 years ago
I wouldn't say hes perfect. The reason I like Trane so much is because he sings through his horn, he plays with more emotion than anyone....
Jazzsaxman1 2 years ago
So you're saying that Trane wasn't a "great musician"?
wow man, get a clue....
Jazzsaxman1 2 years ago
i love when people say on youtube "oh, it's just a few ii-v-Is in 3 keys" about giant steps. the changes are hard folks, even in lower tempos if you really want to outline the chords and not just play randomly in the tonic major scale. and as someone said earlier, lets see your versions if you think this tune is easy. every respected musician i know personally agrees this is a hard tune to play melodically on.
renixe 3 years ago
i know what you mean. before i've fallen into jazz i thought 'oh, it's just playing over chords'. a year has passed since i've began some serious jazz-guitar studying and... i can't believe i thought it's simple, banal and not creative. now i think exactly opposite =]
axiluss 2 years ago 3
ié ! :)
bizelli07 3 years ago
great soloist. I saw him yesterday at a clinic of his in Seattle. unfortunately, this was done about 50% slower than it should be, and they were playing WAY to loud to hear the soloist. listen to the original Coltrane version. it is on a different level from this band.
42connorzielinski42 3 years ago
nice, i'd love to see him myself. i agree this was so slow...its kinda smokey though, i like this but with the exception of the and drowning james out as you said. i have giant steps the album and it is of course amazing! :P
ncodrington 3 years ago
metheny plays it slow and it sounds good.
davidhilton 2 years ago
makes u appreciate John COltrane much more
coronachilla 3 years ago
now that i listen to it...that pianist is playing annoyingly loud..
Caneinthehouse 3 years ago
estoy de acuerdo esta itnerpretacione s pobre ni si quiera se compara a el sentimiento que coltrane ponia en sus piezas, creo que el jazz con orquesta es muy pobre
jorgeandreartea 3 years ago
yeah, but i still like it =)
sí, pero yo todavía tenga gusto de él =)
ncodrington 3 years ago
This is poorly done. Since the beginning, the pianist is playing his own little part instead of comping the actual melody - a complete mess. Then it gets good, with the sax solo, but halfway through it the whole band drowns him out! It sounds like a big mess.
1761rw 3 years ago
What are you talking about? His own little part? Do you know anything about music at all?!
mambojazz1 3 years ago
Do you? The pianist is playing as if he is leading, instead of COMPLEMENTING the music. Hence it sounds like a mess. No-one likes it when someone else is seeking attention when you're supposed to be leading. Make sense now?
1761rw 3 years ago
I met James Moody a few years ago at the Toronto Jazz Festival, and without a doubt, Mr. Moody is the most easy going, down to earth and approachable jazz musician I ever met.
awwcrap01 3 years ago
t3hm4n.
actually the wholes song is composed of ii-v-i. yes the chords change every two beats but with the two five one it makes it so you are changing scales like every two measures.
it's not that bad.
hardkorsax 3 years ago
t3hm4n 3 years ago
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its no a hard song. your just a weak player
ShtotaKoya 3 years ago
No no, it's a hard song to IMPROV on. I never said the actual song was hard.
t3hm4n 3 years ago 2
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your wrong its NOT hard to improve on..if you knew anything about soloing take away three sharps and solo on the minor chord
Caneinthehouse 3 years ago
vid or shut up.
wiwif 3 years ago
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Let's take one of Coltrane's best known tunes and simplify it into a sentence. Why don't I just sit on the computer and make everything sound really easy instead of giving a music school 30 grand a year to teach me a fraction of what goes on in Coltrane's head? Yeah, I can do that.
Ya know, the less you know about music, the easier things seem. You put no thought or emotion into what you play. You're one of those "Blues Scale" guys, aren't you?
Saxyman14 3 years ago
no im a high school freshman.....and i dont use blues scales..they are way to original..i just learn the appropriate notes if that makes sense
Caneinthehouse 3 years ago
Blues scales are too original?
Huh?
Nope, doesn't make sense.
Saxyman14 3 years ago
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you know what? you can shove your degree up ur ass cuz i rlly dont give a shit what u think.imma play my sax and b happy wid myself and ignore the haters who are 30 yrs old critizing me..i didnt come to youtube to hear your 'im so good cuz i went to music school' FUCK YOU
Caneinthehouse 3 years ago
You're about 10 years too high. and I don't have a degree yet. If I had a degree, I wouldn't currently be attending the school. Nice problem solving skills.
But, you're totally over-simplifying things. The more you learn about theory, the more appreciation you will have for this.
I'm not the type of person to say "I'm so good because..." but I will put someone in their place if they seem to be one of those people. And when you say things like "The Blues scale is too original," I can tell.
Saxyman14 3 years ago
Calm down and have a normal adult conversation please.
ncodrington 3 years ago 2
you are a fool, freshman.
laumeister 3 years ago 5
fuck you..you are the definiton of a hater
Caneinthehouse 3 years ago
or maybe your ignorant.
carlos65000000000000 3 years ago
and you, my good sir, are the definition of an ignorant prick.
the end.
ChoujiAkimichi 3 years ago
@Caneinthehouse "too original"...WHAT?
Auquis 1 year ago
@Caneinthehouse
yeah...gotta agree with everyone and say that you, caneinthehouse, are guilty of diarrhea of the mouth. so please shut the fuck up.
avakiantz 1 year ago
@avakiantz k
Caneinthehouse 1 year ago
Actually,no i'm not.
ncodrington 3 years ago 2
@Saxyman14 Wow, you're a dick
jonjonjonmw3 1 year ago
@Caneinthehouse if you take away 3 sharps your playing in a different key newb
songsmadeforyou 1 year ago
That was comment was made 2 years ago. No big deal though. newb
Caneinthehouse 1 year ago
@Caneinthehouse ok well i'm glad to see you learned key signatures in that time
songsmadeforyou 1 year ago
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@songsmadeforyou That was comment was made 2 years ago. No big deal though. newb
Caneinthehouse 1 year ago
yeah, I'm working on truing to improv in this song, but jesus it's at over 200bpm at as you said every 2 beats the chord changes.
This version is good but a bit too slow for my taste.
JamesPatison 3 years ago
oooo i liv this video and man moody just deteriated this song!! Loveed it!!!
morales664 3 years ago
maan so hammer ich liebe die rias big band!!!schade, dass es sie nicht mehr gibt !!
tinyboy22 3 years ago
svinge svinge !!
allaaaah 3 years ago
nice piano :)
evosynth 3 years ago
Great arrangement and great band, and, of course, the always great, James Moody!
bzalto 3 years ago 2