@whyILeftTheGOP He supported him because of the war in Afghanistan and the liberation of Iraq from Saddam. Pre 9/11 Hitchens was against Bush, I think. It was nothing to do with religion.
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Well what a disappointment Obama has turned out to be! Now Hitch is a clever man but on this one I believe I trumped him. You see, I argued from the start that anyone who believed the US would change direction in any significant way under Obama was delusional. My Left leaning friends derided my cynicism but to me it was obvious. Obama was PUT there by greater powers, the ones Kennedy had spoken about, the ones that soon thereafter killed him. Hitch will not address the elelphant in the room ZION
@MarkRosengarten Absolutely. Never have I seen someone so dedicated to reaching across the aisle and finding some consensus. I'm not at all saying this is a positive thing, though.
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"we're not expecting her to be an encyclopaedia"... why the fuck not? the right love to bash intellectuals as though being intelligent is a huge offence
@ILIKEWALLS That is not Lars Larsons' point. What he is saying is that since American presidents are surrounded by a team of advisors, they do not necessarily need to be an expert in every area. Of course, being a polymath would certainly not hurt, but it is not in any way a prerequisite for becoming president. Now I did not vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin, but that had to do more with her lack of foreign policy experience and her shameful ignorance, not her failing to be a polymath.
@gggreggg despite his image of being achingly astute and eloquent - he is really a right wing prick. He supports the wars against brown people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh well....
Look at the Phoney salesman surrounding Hitch... spin merchents... talking about holes in the economy??? Christ, USA is still reeling from Reganomics... dangerous to have a brain in US politics because they are so corrupt...
I'm sure that most people probably aren't that interested, but Palin is a complete idiot for making fun of fruit fly experiments. They are incredibly useful for lots of things both in research and as a teaching aid, and I used them a few times myself in my studies. That and other comments she makes show what sort of mentality she has. Centuries of advancement have passed her by, and she just doesn't care or even realise what she is missing.
I wish Hitch was well - he could do his own show. - What is it about losers that can't use a person's full name. Lazy Americans who shorten their attention span and enlarge their value meals
@ProRanting So what? She is a creationist. That means that she believes god created people. Obama believes that ATMs create unemployment. I would rather come home from my job and explain to my kids they evolved than have my kid come home why I am looking through the want adds for a job and have them explain to me they evolved.
I think Christopher Hitchens is a very clever guy and can rip stupid people to shreds, but he comes across as a bit of a knob there at 1:30 ..... take it a bit easier there, Chris
Palin was chosen because she was a she and might be able to suck up some votes that would've gone to Hillary if she had won the candidac. It didn't work because Palin is thick as a brick and would've been a disaster. Let's hope she tries for the presidency in 2012, just for the laughs!
@icurhuman2 I agree. I think they thought people were voting for Obama just cuz he was black and they thought 'hey we can do something like that too'. What they didn't realize is that people voted for Obama cuz he was smart and inspiring...
it sucks how polarized american politics are. Its as if its impossible for our politicians to be centrists and get elected... they have to be either of the far left and far right
Lars, 12 years of irresponsible non-reaction, you total wank! It would have been super if the West could have supported upheaval from within. It did not, Mr Jowls.
Terry Holt can't answer a fucking question...Lars Larson is just a buffoon with a side gig as a Hermann Goering impersonator...Hitchens as usual, tells it like it is.
@shemp2 Larry could have given Hitch more time, but I suppose I can find the next part after the break and maybe he did allow him his time to fire, because Hitch is his best when he's given a bit of time to respond. Having said that, he is sometimes pretty aggressive and can jump right in, which is great! I sure hope he beats that cancer. We need more like Hitch!
@TheUtube4ever He's become a hawk since 9/11. And he says that foreign policy is the first and foremost issue that motivates his support/vote. So he supported a lot of the Bush Doctrine.
@gggreggg Well Hitch has never claimed to be right about everything. I can gurantee you can find something of him claiming that he totally fucked that one up.
@s5b678 That's possibly the best thing about Christopher. He lives by the famous words of Keynes, 'When the facts change then my opinion changes. And you, sir?'
The most obvious example to my mind would be his initial opposition to the '91 military intervention to expel Saddam Hussein's forces from Kuwait. Something which Christopher opposed at the time.
It's one thing to put yourself on the line over something so important, it's another to be honest enough to admit that you were wrong.
@JosephusBlowesus - correction: he has cancer but isn't 'dying of it'. He might go into remission you know, live a few more years and then get hit by a bus. Remember, we are ALL dying. HOW we die is always yet to be realised.
Secondly, he has a DUAL citizenship with the US and Great Britain.
@JosephusBlowesus - True, but as much as you may not like it, he IS a US Citizen. Doesn't matter that if was born 1 foot or 14,000kms from your borders, Mr. Hitchens IS an American (AND an Englishman). This is fact.
@freakystyley4000 have you missed the whole Birther flap? He has to BE BORN IN THE USA OR A US POSSESSION to be elected president. Hitchens was born in the UK.
@JosephusBlowesus - as far as I know Mr. Hitchens is not aiming for the American presidency (I think Arnie will have a shot at it though, after he has that particular bit altered in your law books).
We have an English-born woman as Prime Minister in my country. Doesn't mean just because she didn't happen to be born on Australian soil that she couldn't become our first female Prime Minister.
I don't get the whole 'birther' thing... just seems like a lighter shade of xenophobia to me.
@freakystyley4000 According to the US Constitution, you have to be a native born US citizen 35 years old or older to be president. Just the law. Nothing personal against Hitchens, since I would rather have him as president than a block head like Lars Larson.
The one thing that makes NO SENSE to me is the fact that Hitchens, once upon a time (2004 to be exact) was a Bush supporter?? I agree with him about religion 100%, but how could he possibly ever have been a Bush supporter, ESPECIALLY since he's smart enough to know alot of things , of which most the Bush ideals DISAGREE with ?? It makes sense he's a democrat this time around.. but I still don't get how he was for Bush at one point...?
@ammarios Hitch was never a Democrat, He said you cant vote for McCain because health, and Palin because of lack of experience. I wonder what his view of Obama is today.
@ammarios from what I can piece together, hitchens, among other reasons, I'm sure, believed that the US had a responsibility to liberate iraq from sadam, owing to US policies that placed him there and the kurds who suffered under his regime. hitchens thought it noble to spread democracy, though he did not deny the obvious economic advantage of intervention in iraq rather than in somalia or sudan; hitchens doesn't seem to be the sort to apologize for pragmatism.
@ammarios He had serious doubts about the democratic proposals for diminishing the military involvement in Iraq and Afganistan. Hitchens vehemently supported those wars.
He considered those countries as very dangerous, to the point of requiring foreign intervention.
Thats my understanding of at least part of his reasons.
I miss George Bush. He was a great President, a Vietnam war hero, a brillient thinker and motivator of men. His discision to fight for freedom in Iraq was correct. His response to hurricane Katrina was "Johnny on the spot". We now have fewer crack drug houses in New Orleans because of the flood. His speeches are masterful and awe inspiring . Some say Bush's intellect equals that of a box of nails. I say he is a genius...By the way, I live on Mars and I see dead people
@MCAMVP I am fairly certain I am aware he was being sarcastic about all of his comments. What I am saying is he, and obviously you, are fucking retards.
you judge the point he made by a few trivial spelling mistakes everyone else might have noticed too... then you call me a retard for calling you out on your anger.
@weepingboy3 As someone who works in politics and is considered by many to be good authority on political issues, It pains me to read this dribble. He is America's biggest embarrassment in foreign policy. Europe let it go that you elected him the first time, anyone can make a mistake, when u did it a second time, America became, for the rest of the civilized world the most hated nation on earth. A shadow of its former glory of the pre 50s when u were the greatest nation the world had ever seen
I wish the breaks on my TV were as quick as this lol. This is a crazy right wing world run by the wealthy for the benefit of the wealthy. "America's vital interests" etc, etc. The bombing of and constant interference in so many countries since the 2nd war which is just creating more fanatics and spreading more hate. What if all the other countries in the world were to behave in exactly the same way as the US and my country the UK behaves? Might is right !! Hypocrisy is alive and well.
The republicans off shored all the investmet and well paying jobs over the entire Bush years and now they have the gaul to blame the job loss and economy on the Dems. Right wing Christian fundamentalist morons.
@Eizara . In my entire life I have never seen a president like GWBush. He is absolutely the biggest knucklehead ever elected to office. I thought he was retarded or suffered from "early onset dementia" or both. In my wildest dreams never did I think that one man could drag down America until GWBush's became president. Tax cuts for the rich, endless wars and adventures, Katrina, Abu Grab and torture, lack of insight and curiosity, inept leadership and pathetic facial expressions. What a loser
"She's a sop to the extreme right wing." Makes sense. CEO of a 12,000 state-employee work force, achieved $15,000 in oil rebates for every man, woman, and child in Alaska, and got 90% further along on the Alaskan pipeline than the previous three governors combined. Yeah, no achievements, just a sop.
Gentlemen, do not feel badly over this debate. You are all ants next to Mr. Hitchens. He buries you all with the ease of a bulldozer. His wit, his knowledge, his logic, his rationality, his convictions -- you have no chance in hell. He is that good. Get over it.
@MrAnthonyVance Hitchens is an intellectual giant though, a debate between him and Nietzsche would make me a happy man, that is if Nietzsche were still alive.
@viletree Nietzche and Hitchens debate ... One problem with that idea. Hitchens and Nietzche would agree on too many things, particularly where religion is concerned.
@MrAnthonyVance To tell you the truth, Hitchens is beginning to strike me as the Bizarro version of Ann Coulter. See below... Compare: Outspoken Make statements as if they're unquestionably right Often interrupt and insult people who disagree Condescending Constantly bring up religion Verbally attack non-present people Polarizing to most people Never miss a chance with a camera Contrast: She's far right/He's far left (oooh, big whoop...not) Gender-My jury is still out on Ann, so TBA
No Responsible person should vote for either party this November. For the love of God people, stop voting for the same corporate owned politicians in the two party dictatorship.
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The alternative is to vote for candidates, regardless of party affiliation (that includes third parties) that are not backed heavy by lobbyists and special interests. Some people think this prescription is "wasting your vote" but voting for a politician isn't like trying to pick a winner at the track. The only wasteful vote is to cast a vote for a politician who is going to look out for special interests and their party first, and the people last.
Saddam's regime was brutal and, like us, they were engaged in torture (but on a wider scale).
That said, no Middle Eastern country has ever adopted fascism. Baathism is not fascism. For one, fascism requires mass, organic popularity. Another point is the economic and social structure of Arab nations: not conducive to fascist politics.
@dylanh04 You don't think Ba'athism was massively popular in Arab countries? Are you high? Or are you just that pathetically ignorant?
Do you have any idea what the Ba'ath regime in Iraq did? Any idea at all? Killing entire families on a whim of suspicion? Attempting to erase, biologically, the Kurdish citizenry in its own territory?
Maybe if you had something besides a Wiki-education you might know something about Iraq, but I tend to not get my hopes up with people like you.
@F33bs "Of course, the Baath Party of Iraq never relied entirely on the popularity of its message to maintain power. Underpinning the edifice was a brutally effective coercive organization that was not slow to enforce obedience to the Party and eliminate dissent" though "the Party's message [of socialism and nationalism] resonated loudly among the people of Iraq" Anderson, "The future of Iraq" (2004)
No Baath candidates were ever democratically elected.
@F33bs "Resonated loudly" could mean 20-40% of the populace. It's very ambiguous. Let me repeat what I wrote: "No Baath candidates were ever democratically elected." Clear enough?
If you have poll numbers or actual hard proof that "Ba'athism was massively popular in Arab countries", then provide them. You don't.
I forgot to add something about Saddam and the Kurds:
@dylanh04 How did this even get sidetracked to the popularity of Ba'athism? What does it have to do with the viability and legitimacy of the regime? Are you going to tell me that a regime (popular or not) that is engaged in genocide (multiple times) and territorial aggression (two times) and worldwide terrorism (countless times) should not be subject to consequences from international law?
(Before you throw down the old canard, I support the USA being held accountable too.)
@F33bs You're rather confused. The US has historically committed all three of those crimes on a scale that makes Saddam appear laughable in comparison. This is not some "old canard".
You are responsible primarily for the actions of your own government. The sudden post-9/11 interest in Iraq had nothing to do with it being either a threat (lol) or a human right offender, anyways.
Oddly, you first brought up the claim of Ba'athism's popularity, which I dismantled. Let's argue in a straight line.
@dylanh04 Let's just get to the point, do you think that a country which has previously done bad things has no ability to do good things in the future or present? Because that's basically what you're arguing.
"Ten years ago, the systematic gassing of the Kurdish population of northern Iraq had far less impact on America. Only six months after the slaughter at Halabja, the White House lent Saddam Hussein another billion dollars. And in 1991, at the end of the Gulf war, US troops stood idly by while Saddam’s presidential guard ruthlessly suppressed the popular uprising by the Kurds for which the American president had himself called." [Source: March '98 "Le Monde Diplomatique", Kendal Nezan]
@F33bs I've provided legitimate sources, which naturally must be copied and pasted (and sourced). You're getting frustrated.
The Le Monde citation should make it clear to you that the war was never about the US avenging the massacre of the Kurds or those slaughtered under the Saddam regime, often under Uncle Sam's "benign" gaze. It "awoke" to his criminality when geopolitics came into play.
@dylanh04 Not actually frustrated, maybe annoyed that you take this issue so frivolously that you would rely on a cursory Google search to support arguments totally unrelated to anything this discussion was ever about.
The Le Monde blurb you pasted hasn't proven anything. You're attempting to draw a motive from a conspiracy theory. Even if it were true, you'd still have to prove that the intervention was effectively wrong in the first place, by definition. Can you do this?
@dylanh04 It also doesn't explain why the US and NATO established a No-Fly-Zone over Iraq to prevent a thing like Halabja, Guptapa and Askar from happening in the future.
If you really want to take from historical precedent, the US involvement in Bosnia, Kosovo and Somalia, all instances where US interests weren't at stake, and much more recent than anything you are citing, serve as evidence that the intervention in Iraq was at least partially humanitarian.
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ccsmiley2 5 days ago
why would Hitchens endorse Bush who carried the water fro the religious right?
i don't get it
whyILeftTheGOP 6 days ago
@whyILeftTheGOP He supported him because of the war in Afghanistan and the liberation of Iraq from Saddam. Pre 9/11 Hitchens was against Bush, I think. It was nothing to do with religion.
rockermanmatt 4 days ago
@mixmastermeeks lol, that's some good grammar and learn this of the Internet and sometimes to know if you blog for comedy and they evolve?
rypaz87 2 weeks ago
i feel sorry for these douchefucks defending dickhead palin.
halflifeproductionz 1 month ago 2
Although Obama has turned out to be not the best president, lets just begin to think what kindve crazy hell would've happened if McCain had won
moroney1 1 month ago 5
If you call Hitchens "Chrissie" he will f*cking kill you.
Andrewh313 1 month ago 9
4:38 "Here comes one of them!"
benehan 2 months ago 3
Too many people on one panel, just have Hitchens there.
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
Hitchens is the only person worth listening to on this entire panel.
BloggerMusicMan 3 months ago 4
boy were these dumbfucks WRONG!!! obama has his dick inside john boner. he bends over constantly for the republicans. haha! fail analysis.
halflifeproductionz 3 months ago
McCain's egregious, cynical, irresponsible choice of Palin to be his running mate should be mentioned in every single one of his obituaries.
194jms 3 months ago
lol the Title is misleading. fail
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vechorik 3 months ago
Well what a disappointment Obama has turned out to be! Now Hitch is a clever man but on this one I believe I trumped him. You see, I argued from the start that anyone who believed the US would change direction in any significant way under Obama was delusional. My Left leaning friends derided my cynicism but to me it was obvious. Obama was PUT there by greater powers, the ones Kennedy had spoken about, the ones that soon thereafter killed him. Hitch will not address the elelphant in the room ZION
glazinq 3 months ago
@glazinq Zion, cynicism. A cynical conspiracy theorist?
SphincterOfDoom 3 months ago
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glazinq 3 months ago
YES!
Hillary Clinton is a right wing authoritarian if you use the Hans Eysenck geometric axis.
PurpleHoneyBear 4 months ago
Interesting in retrospect...Obama has utterly caved across the aisle.
MarkRosengarten 4 months ago 14
@MarkRosengarten Absolutely. Never have I seen someone so dedicated to reaching across the aisle and finding some consensus. I'm not at all saying this is a positive thing, though.
MrLondonclash 2 months ago
Palin is a dumb cunt. What was Mcain thinking?
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Alex Jones would rip Hitchens apart! Ron Paul would kill Hitchens.
adkpinecone 5 months ago
@adkpinecone
Can I politely ask how old you are?
AllyWheels 5 months ago 3
@adkpinecone aha :0 thanks for the joke :)
redryan20000 4 months ago
@redryan20000 lol your welcome :)
adkpinecone 4 months ago
Lars Larson is a moron. Praising the surge is like praising rapist who uses a condom. Fuck that dumbshit.
zakalwe30 5 months ago
@zakalwe30 you think our soldiers over there are akin to rapists who use condoms? why dont you kill yourself and thin out the herd a bit....
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
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ubiquitousdiabolus 5 months ago
"we're not expecting her to be an encyclopaedia"... why the fuck not? the right love to bash intellectuals as though being intelligent is a huge offence
ILIKEWALLS 5 months ago 2
@ILIKEWALLS That is not Lars Larsons' point. What he is saying is that since American presidents are surrounded by a team of advisors, they do not necessarily need to be an expert in every area. Of course, being a polymath would certainly not hurt, but it is not in any way a prerequisite for becoming president. Now I did not vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin, but that had to do more with her lack of foreign policy experience and her shameful ignorance, not her failing to be a polymath.
writersblock26 5 months ago
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writersblock26 5 months ago
i am shocked that Hitchens voted for Bush the first time around. i would like to know why why why------
gggreggg 6 months ago
@gggreggg despite his image of being achingly astute and eloquent - he is really a right wing prick. He supports the wars against brown people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh well....
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Killing a person is a crime, but for Hitchens, we should make an exception
gogolplex74 6 months ago
@gogolplex74 Kill who? Hitchens or the republicans on the panel?
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youneekk 6 months ago
Look at the Phoney salesman surrounding Hitch... spin merchents... talking about holes in the economy??? Christ, USA is still reeling from Reganomics... dangerous to have a brain in US politics because they are so corrupt...
bongoloid77 6 months ago
I'm sure that most people probably aren't that interested, but Palin is a complete idiot for making fun of fruit fly experiments. They are incredibly useful for lots of things both in research and as a teaching aid, and I used them a few times myself in my studies. That and other comments she makes show what sort of mentality she has. Centuries of advancement have passed her by, and she just doesn't care or even realise what she is missing.
strakha0 6 months ago
christopher hitchens is controlled op
munkdo3 7 months ago
I wish Hitch was well - he could do his own show. - What is it about losers that can't use a person's full name. Lazy Americans who shorten their attention span and enlarge their value meals
EricDavidFloyd 7 months ago
@EricDavidFloyd Don't be ignorant mate, you just make yourself look stupid.
BenJamesH2011 7 months ago
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What are you talking about - you might want to give specifics. BTW I only have one mate and you are not it - sorry :(
EricDavidFloyd 7 months ago
The best line as usual, coming from "The Hitch", talking about Lars Larson being a right wing sop, "And here comes one of them."
tooldruid 7 months ago
7:26 "She doesn't believe in Genetics she's a creationist!"
7:32 "Christopher"
7:34 "Christopher"
ProRanting 7 months ago 51
@ProRanting Absolutely brilliant, this Hitcher-person.
whannes 5 months ago
@ProRanting God dammit that's hilarious. XD
PurpleHoneyBear 4 months ago
@ProRanting So what? She is a creationist. That means that she believes god created people. Obama believes that ATMs create unemployment. I would rather come home from my job and explain to my kids they evolved than have my kid come home why I am looking through the want adds for a job and have them explain to me they evolved.
mixmastermeeks 1 month ago
@mixmastermeeks that was truly stupid
ScoutWanderer 3 weeks ago
@ScoutWanderer what was stupid? My comment or that Obama thinks that technology causes unemployment?
mixmastermeeks 3 weeks ago
@mixmastermeeks It does. Technology creates a level of efficiency which reduces the need for manpower.
ezdeth 2 weeks ago
@mixmastermeeks I never mentioned unemployment or Obama. Talk to someone else if your lonely.
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youneekk 8 months ago
I also didn't vote for McCain because of his running mate Sarah Palin. I would have voted for him otherwise.
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neualex308 7 months ago
I think Christopher Hitchens is a very clever guy and can rip stupid people to shreds, but he comes across as a bit of a knob there at 1:30 ..... take it a bit easier there, Chris
tony10396861 8 months ago
hitchens, during larry's introduction of him, looks like stewie griffin.
amindbody 8 months ago
Palin was chosen because she was a she and might be able to suck up some votes that would've gone to Hillary if she had won the candidac. It didn't work because Palin is thick as a brick and would've been a disaster. Let's hope she tries for the presidency in 2012, just for the laughs!
icurhuman2 8 months ago 3
@icurhuman2 I agree. I think they thought people were voting for Obama just cuz he was black and they thought 'hey we can do something like that too'. What they didn't realize is that people voted for Obama cuz he was smart and inspiring...
zzyzx0788 8 months ago
it sucks how polarized american politics are. Its as if its impossible for our politicians to be centrists and get elected... they have to be either of the far left and far right
Pooternackle5 8 months ago
'its a scandal!'
Cobhammar 8 months ago
dub-ya m deez lol Lars Larson is a first-class jackass.
MegaScottTV 8 months ago
it's so telling that American politicians are measures by how well they deal with war.
icedbannanas 9 months ago
@countjimbo It pains me to see you misspell "drivel." Unless you were criticizing Bush's basketball skills, I'm with you.
Ematched 9 months ago
The Hitch speaks at: 1:40 , 4:25 , 6:29
matttylove2 9 months ago
Anybody notice that they keep Hitchens on camera while idiots are talking so we can see him squirm in disgust?
fromhereon 9 months ago
Fucking political arguing...worst thing ever...except getting hit in the balls
CntrBrdr 9 months ago
Stick with the religious debating Hitchens, marxism isn't too popular anymore.
j03y2fly 9 months ago
The surge worked so well, troops are still there 4 years later.
jessemaurais 10 months ago
"unconsequential". . .love it.
barryferguson 10 months ago
Good lord, listen to these idiots backing McCain/Palin. I shudder to think where we'ed be if those two won. Mr. Hitchens' remarks are spot on.
lunhil12 10 months ago
Dis paige if fULL of BLEEDIN HART LIBERALS!!
pseudonominous 10 months ago
Lars, 12 years of irresponsible non-reaction, you total wank! It would have been super if the West could have supported upheaval from within. It did not, Mr Jowls.
bartonim 10 months ago
Terry Holt can't answer a fucking question...Lars Larson is just a buffoon with a side gig as a Hermann Goering impersonator...Hitchens as usual, tells it like it is.
shemp2 10 months ago
@shemp2 Larry could have given Hitch more time, but I suppose I can find the next part after the break and maybe he did allow him his time to fire, because Hitch is his best when he's given a bit of time to respond. Having said that, he is sometimes pretty aggressive and can jump right in, which is great! I sure hope he beats that cancer. We need more like Hitch!
bartonim 10 months ago
Hitch voted for Bush in 04? seriously?
TheUtube4ever 11 months ago
@TheUtube4ever He's become a hawk since 9/11. And he says that foreign policy is the first and foremost issue that motivates his support/vote. So he supported a lot of the Bush Doctrine.
RedeemedSpirit12 10 months ago
i am shocked, i say shocked that Hitchens voted for Bush!!!! bush has always been demontrably a dunder head.
gggreggg 11 months ago
@gggreggg Well...that was indeed a dark time for the Hitch.
KakashiBallZ 11 months ago
@gggreggg Well Hitch has never claimed to be right about everything. I can gurantee you can find something of him claiming that he totally fucked that one up.
s5b678 10 months ago
@s5b678 That's possibly the best thing about Christopher. He lives by the famous words of Keynes, 'When the facts change then my opinion changes. And you, sir?'
The most obvious example to my mind would be his initial opposition to the '91 military intervention to expel Saddam Hussein's forces from Kuwait. Something which Christopher opposed at the time.
It's one thing to put yourself on the line over something so important, it's another to be honest enough to admit that you were wrong.
ubernaffa 10 months ago
7:29 you hear Hitch repeating "Christopher", "Christopher" hahaha...
MattyJames25 11 months ago 3
Why is almost every American i hear on T.V fucking retarded? Hitch for president
sebah1991 11 months ago
The Hitch speaks at: 1:40 , 4:25 , 6:29
Hippiepis 11 months ago 126
Why Lars Larson? He is just another BS stupid right wing talk show host.
JosephusBlowesus 11 months ago
@JosephusBlowesus not to forget, a FOX News "contributor" (BS artist)
JosephusBlowesus 11 months ago
Christopher.
Protonpack 1 year ago
Hitchens makes good tv!
BuildSC 1 year ago
"She doesn't believe in genetics-- she's a creationist!"
grimguy 1 year ago 3
Wow -- That was a quick break! 1:17
pythor2 1 year ago
No Responsible Person Can Vote Democrat
LIBERTARIANS!
YoungIvyScholar 1 year ago
Hitchens for president-2012
mrtrendkillerfly 1 year ago
@mrtrendkillerfly I) he's dying of cancer 2) British Citizen
JosephusBlowesus 11 months ago
@JosephusBlowesus - correction: he has cancer but isn't 'dying of it'. He might go into remission you know, live a few more years and then get hit by a bus. Remember, we are ALL dying. HOW we die is always yet to be realised.
Secondly, he has a DUAL citizenship with the US and Great Britain.
freakystyley4000 11 months ago
@freakystyley4000 But he was not born in the US
JosephusBlowesus 11 months ago
@JosephusBlowesus - True, but as much as you may not like it, he IS a US Citizen. Doesn't matter that if was born 1 foot or 14,000kms from your borders, Mr. Hitchens IS an American (AND an Englishman). This is fact.
freakystyley4000 11 months ago
@freakystyley4000 have you missed the whole Birther flap? He has to BE BORN IN THE USA OR A US POSSESSION to be elected president. Hitchens was born in the UK.
JosephusBlowesus 11 months ago
@JosephusBlowesus - as far as I know Mr. Hitchens is not aiming for the American presidency (I think Arnie will have a shot at it though, after he has that particular bit altered in your law books).
We have an English-born woman as Prime Minister in my country. Doesn't mean just because she didn't happen to be born on Australian soil that she couldn't become our first female Prime Minister.
I don't get the whole 'birther' thing... just seems like a lighter shade of xenophobia to me.
freakystyley4000 11 months ago
@freakystyley4000 According to the US Constitution, you have to be a native born US citizen 35 years old or older to be president. Just the law. Nothing personal against Hitchens, since I would rather have him as president than a block head like Lars Larson.
JosephusBlowesus 11 months ago
@JosephusBlowesus the Constitution can be changed.
widssss 11 months ago
The one thing that makes NO SENSE to me is the fact that Hitchens, once upon a time (2004 to be exact) was a Bush supporter?? I agree with him about religion 100%, but how could he possibly ever have been a Bush supporter, ESPECIALLY since he's smart enough to know alot of things , of which most the Bush ideals DISAGREE with ?? It makes sense he's a democrat this time around.. but I still don't get how he was for Bush at one point...?
ammarios 1 year ago
@ammarios Hitch was never a Democrat, He said you cant vote for McCain because health, and Palin because of lack of experience. I wonder what his view of Obama is today.
hotmercedes 1 year ago
@ammarios from what I can piece together, hitchens, among other reasons, I'm sure, believed that the US had a responsibility to liberate iraq from sadam, owing to US policies that placed him there and the kurds who suffered under his regime. hitchens thought it noble to spread democracy, though he did not deny the obvious economic advantage of intervention in iraq rather than in somalia or sudan; hitchens doesn't seem to be the sort to apologize for pragmatism.
WellConditionedChimp 1 year ago
@ammarios He had serious doubts about the democratic proposals for diminishing the military involvement in Iraq and Afganistan. Hitchens vehemently supported those wars.
He considered those countries as very dangerous, to the point of requiring foreign intervention.
Thats my understanding of at least part of his reasons.
willowtreephoto 1 year ago
LoL I love it whenever Hitchens butts in saying "It's a scandal!" It's a sign that he's pissed off and has just unloaded on someone.
Harmonyww 1 year ago 2
"she doesn't believe in genetics, she's a creationist" LMAO
ibreakkidslegs 1 year ago 7
scott is such a sellout , all for the money
TheRzaforshiza 1 year ago
I miss George Bush. He was a great President, a Vietnam war hero, a brillient thinker and motivator of men. His discision to fight for freedom in Iraq was correct. His response to hurricane Katrina was "Johnny on the spot". We now have fewer crack drug houses in New Orleans because of the flood. His speeches are masterful and awe inspiring . Some say Bush's intellect equals that of a box of nails. I say he is a genius...By the way, I live on Mars and I see dead people
weepingboy3 1 year ago 129
@weepingboy3 I was so ready to thumb down until the last part...
sanjeesingla 10 months ago
@weepingboy3 You nearly had me going! Until the Vietnam reference! Well-done!
bartonim 10 months ago
@weepingboy3 A brillient thinker? Paying out bush for his speeches and you can't even spell.
seppomuppit 10 months ago
@seppomuppit but that was enough to troll you lol
hint: last line
MCAMVP 9 months ago
@MCAMVP hmm no, that wasn't a troll.
seppomuppit 9 months ago
@seppomuppit
so you believe he lives on mars and sees dead people?
MCAMVP 9 months ago
@MCAMVP Do I have to spell it out? It was obvious you were being sarcastic, I was saying you are far dumber than bush so STFU
seppomuppit 9 months ago
@seppomuppit
ironically, he was being sarcastic to begin with and i sense you're going ad hominem rather than admit not reading all that was written.
such keen intellect.
MCAMVP 9 months ago
@MCAMVP I am fairly certain I am aware he was being sarcastic about all of his comments. What I am saying is he, and obviously you, are fucking retards.
seppomuppit 9 months ago
@seppomuppit
you judge the point he made by a few trivial spelling mistakes everyone else might have noticed too... then you call me a retard for calling you out on your anger.
just as i predicted xD
quite insecure aren't we now?
MCAMVP 9 months ago
@MCAMVP He was teasing bush for making the odd mistake in his speeches and he can't even spell the word brilliant. Case and point now go away! XD
seppomuppit 9 months ago
@seppomuppit fair enough :P
MCAMVP 9 months ago
@weepingboy3 HE ALSO FUCKED OUR ECONOMY AND PUT US IN THE LONGEST WAR IN AMERICAN HISTORY
highlanderdurp 9 months ago
@highlanderdurp
you are taking his comment seriously...
hint: last line
MCAMVP 9 months ago
@weepingboy3
''His discision to fight for freedom in Iraq was correct.''
1. I'm sure he can spell ''decision'' correctly unlike you.
2. It was correct. If Saddam killed your parents we would see how much of a pacifist hippy bitch you would be then.
ItsameAlex 9 months ago
@weepingboy3 As someone who works in politics and is considered by many to be good authority on political issues, It pains me to read this dribble. He is America's biggest embarrassment in foreign policy. Europe let it go that you elected him the first time, anyone can make a mistake, when u did it a second time, America became, for the rest of the civilized world the most hated nation on earth. A shadow of its former glory of the pre 50s when u were the greatest nation the world had ever seen
CountJimbo 9 months ago
@weepingboy3 Im so glad i read this thru twice after missing the irony the first time...phew
CountJimbo 9 months ago
@CountJimbo ..Finally, someone who understands sarcasim. Bush was the biggest knuckhead this country had to endure
weepingboy3 9 months ago
@CountJimbo At least you had the guts to leave the first comment up and acknowledge your oversight!
jerrygreg2 9 months ago
@weepingboy3 i was just getting ready to flame u till the last sentance haha
felixx2012 9 months ago
@weepingboy3
I was about to bring out the strait jacket...
ib422000 8 months ago
I wish the breaks on my TV were as quick as this lol. This is a crazy right wing world run by the wealthy for the benefit of the wealthy. "America's vital interests" etc, etc. The bombing of and constant interference in so many countries since the 2nd war which is just creating more fanatics and spreading more hate. What if all the other countries in the world were to behave in exactly the same way as the US and my country the UK behaves? Might is right !! Hypocrisy is alive and well.
lewars1912 8 months ago
The republicans off shored all the investmet and well paying jobs over the entire Bush years and now they have the gaul to blame the job loss and economy on the Dems. Right wing Christian fundamentalist morons.
scotttebben 8 months ago
@weepingboy3 man you had me going for a while, lol.
danielmalpollitt 6 months ago
@weepingboy3 I was starting to wonder if you were talking about the right Bush, until I read the last bit after the ellipses.
Eizara 6 months ago
@Eizara . In my entire life I have never seen a president like GWBush. He is absolutely the biggest knucklehead ever elected to office. I thought he was retarded or suffered from "early onset dementia" or both. In my wildest dreams never did I think that one man could drag down America until GWBush's became president. Tax cuts for the rich, endless wars and adventures, Katrina, Abu Grab and torture, lack of insight and curiosity, inept leadership and pathetic facial expressions. What a loser
weepingboy3 6 months ago 2
Bottom left and top right, fucking morons.
explizidace 1 year ago
We did McCain a favor. Now he has more time to spend with his beautiful wife.
choi4816 1 year ago
There is only one man in this whole clip that gets even a bit of respect form me and that is the always great Christopher Hitchens...
AlexanderHvass 1 year ago 8
Haha, "The panel is assembled,Chris Hitchens..."
"Christopher"
...
Orvellifly 1 year ago 7
Man is Larry out of his control comfort zone
00Billy 1 year ago
@00Billy haha! no kidding. He's not big on conflict or complexity.
lowlypeasant 1 year ago
"She's a sop to the extreme right wing." Makes sense. CEO of a 12,000 state-employee work force, achieved $15,000 in oil rebates for every man, woman, and child in Alaska, and got 90% further along on the Alaskan pipeline than the previous three governors combined. Yeah, no achievements, just a sop.
bigbadbucksnort 1 year ago
Gentlemen, do not feel badly over this debate. You are all ants next to Mr. Hitchens. He buries you all with the ease of a bulldozer. His wit, his knowledge, his logic, his rationality, his convictions -- you have no chance in hell. He is that good. Get over it.
MrAnthonyVance 1 year ago 9
@MrAnthonyVance Hitchens is an intellectual giant though, a debate between him and Nietzsche would make me a happy man, that is if Nietzsche were still alive.
viletree 1 year ago
@viletree Nietzche and Hitchens debate ... One problem with that idea. Hitchens and Nietzche would agree on too many things, particularly where religion is concerned.
MrAnthonyVance 1 year ago
rationalthought84 1 year ago
@rationalthought84 he's not far-left actually, but i do agree that sometimes he's controversial just for the sake of being controversial
jamchew1982 1 year ago
Hitch rules.
starkweather444 1 year ago
LOL @ Hitchens 4:30
quickbane1 1 year ago
No Responsible person should vote for either party this November. For the love of God people, stop voting for the same corporate owned politicians in the two party dictatorship.
rmccay88 1 year ago 5
@rmccay88 Agreed! But you forgot to mention the Fed, the granddaddy of all the bullshit in America. If you haven't already, deeply research how the 16th Amendment & the Fed got started. Follow all related links, particulary ones that relate to issuance of currency throughout US history. We have no democracy, only slavery owed to a cabal. We must unite to end the Fed, then continue...
SIMKINETICS 1 year ago
@rmccay88 I think most people would agree with that but what's the alternative?
megamarsvin 1 year ago
@megamarsvin
The alternative is to vote for candidates, regardless of party affiliation (that includes third parties) that are not backed heavy by lobbyists and special interests. Some people think this prescription is "wasting your vote" but voting for a politician isn't like trying to pick a winner at the track. The only wasteful vote is to cast a vote for a politician who is going to look out for special interests and their party first, and the people last.
rmccay88 1 year ago
Why even invite Hitches on your show if you just plan to cut him off and keep shitting him up.
BAMikeyD 1 year ago
Hitchens world class
SvendsenAtheist 1 year ago 72
Two blabbering right-wing clowns and a dimwit host.
Hitchens, as repulsive as his war views have been since '01, is bearable.
Why are American pundits so stupid and dishonest?
Glowing smiles, passive-aggressiveness, and fake tans. Ugh.
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 Getting rid of a fascist dictatorship to make way for liberal government = repulsive. Got it.
F33bs 1 year ago
@F33bs If you put it that way, it's not.
Of course, that's not the way things were or turned out by any stretch of the imagination.
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 Then are you implying that Saddam's regime wasn't fascist, or that the new Iraqi government is not based on rights and democracy?
F33bs 1 year ago
@F33bs Yes and yes.
Saddam's regime was brutal and, like us, they were engaged in torture (but on a wider scale).
That said, no Middle Eastern country has ever adopted fascism. Baathism is not fascism. For one, fascism requires mass, organic popularity. Another point is the economic and social structure of Arab nations: not conducive to fascist politics.
I wouldn't fling the word around lazily.
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 You don't think Ba'athism was massively popular in Arab countries? Are you high? Or are you just that pathetically ignorant?
Do you have any idea what the Ba'ath regime in Iraq did? Any idea at all? Killing entire families on a whim of suspicion? Attempting to erase, biologically, the Kurdish citizenry in its own territory?
Maybe if you had something besides a Wiki-education you might know something about Iraq, but I tend to not get my hopes up with people like you.
F33bs 1 year ago
@F33bs "Of course, the Baath Party of Iraq never relied entirely on the popularity of its message to maintain power. Underpinning the edifice was a brutally effective coercive organization that was not slow to enforce obedience to the Party and eliminate dissent" though "the Party's message [of socialism and nationalism] resonated loudly among the people of Iraq" Anderson, "The future of Iraq" (2004)
No Baath candidates were ever democratically elected.
Your sources?
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 Derp. Did you even bother to read that quote? Note the ending where it says the "Party's message RESONATED LOUDLY among the people of Iraq."
So what was your point again, assuming you had one?
F33bs 1 year ago
@F33bs "Resonated loudly" could mean 20-40% of the populace. It's very ambiguous. Let me repeat what I wrote: "No Baath candidates were ever democratically elected." Clear enough?
If you have poll numbers or actual hard proof that "Ba'athism was massively popular in Arab countries", then provide them. You don't.
I forgot to add something about Saddam and the Kurds:
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 How did this even get sidetracked to the popularity of Ba'athism? What does it have to do with the viability and legitimacy of the regime? Are you going to tell me that a regime (popular or not) that is engaged in genocide (multiple times) and territorial aggression (two times) and worldwide terrorism (countless times) should not be subject to consequences from international law?
(Before you throw down the old canard, I support the USA being held accountable too.)
F33bs 1 year ago
@F33bs You're rather confused. The US has historically committed all three of those crimes on a scale that makes Saddam appear laughable in comparison. This is not some "old canard".
You are responsible primarily for the actions of your own government. The sudden post-9/11 interest in Iraq had nothing to do with it being either a threat (lol) or a human right offender, anyways.
Oddly, you first brought up the claim of Ba'athism's popularity, which I dismantled. Let's argue in a straight line.
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 Let's just get to the point, do you think that a country which has previously done bad things has no ability to do good things in the future or present? Because that's basically what you're arguing.
F33bs 1 year ago
"Ten years ago, the systematic gassing of the Kurdish population of northern Iraq had far less impact on America. Only six months after the slaughter at Halabja, the White House lent Saddam Hussein another billion dollars. And in 1991, at the end of the Gulf war, US troops stood idly by while Saddam’s presidential guard ruthlessly suppressed the popular uprising by the Kurds for which the American president had himself called." [Source: March '98 "Le Monde Diplomatique", Kendal Nezan]
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 Sweet. More copy/paste work, as if it had anything to do with the topic, or relevant to an argument I've made.
F33bs 1 year ago
@F33bs I've provided legitimate sources, which naturally must be copied and pasted (and sourced). You're getting frustrated.
The Le Monde citation should make it clear to you that the war was never about the US avenging the massacre of the Kurds or those slaughtered under the Saddam regime, often under Uncle Sam's "benign" gaze. It "awoke" to his criminality when geopolitics came into play.
dylanh04 1 year ago
@dylanh04 Not actually frustrated, maybe annoyed that you take this issue so frivolously that you would rely on a cursory Google search to support arguments totally unrelated to anything this discussion was ever about.
The Le Monde blurb you pasted hasn't proven anything. You're attempting to draw a motive from a conspiracy theory. Even if it were true, you'd still have to prove that the intervention was effectively wrong in the first place, by definition. Can you do this?
F33bs 1 year ago
@dylanh04 It also doesn't explain why the US and NATO established a No-Fly-Zone over Iraq to prevent a thing like Halabja, Guptapa and Askar from happening in the future.
If you really want to take from historical precedent, the US involvement in Bosnia, Kosovo and Somalia, all instances where US interests weren't at stake, and much more recent than anything you are citing, serve as evidence that the intervention in Iraq was at least partially humanitarian.
F33bs