yeah it's good...but still too slow and too dull...
sorry to all you 80's rock fans, but in flames version is way better, and lets face it...more modern. you cant live by the past and ignore all the good stuff in the present
How can people come here just to say shit like In Flames version is better? In Flames version wouldnt be better than this even if they had wrote this.
This is how music must be and not like that scream emo thing.
@DannyelBonJovi Because people have different tastes in music and came here to see what the original was like because they love the In Flames cover. In Flames is the greatest band that ever existed and I think they perfected this song and their version is so much better then Treat's original version, however I came here to give my respect to Treat for originally writing the song.
These guys would have been huge in the 80s if they only had good representation and a record company that was willing to promote them. But alas, another great musical group that had fallen to the way side. Good thing they are still around to put out great music.
@thedrip Don't forget it's you people badmouthing our music here. Just giving back some respect.
I don't care what you listen, but don't try to take away from something good. Makes you fake. The original energizes the Rock in melodic art, therefore I consider it to have the better of the cover.
But whatever. I think we should rather form a unit for R N R, aka true music, and address the Hip Pop fraud. They're who started this argument in the first place. Real Metal fans respect each other.
There is no true music, only genres that apply more musical theory than others.
Rock n Roll is music, Hip hop is music, Death metal is music.
And melodic rock, complex? Not at all.
Complex is progressive, some folcloric music, symphonies, that's complex.
Thats the reason only certain people like them. Metal tends to have complex rhytms, for people with musical knowledge. Mainstream music, however, is usually simple, friendly to non-musicians.
@posm You seem to deny melody in Rock for musical art. It's mainstream for being popular, as opposed to the "mainstream" trash that gets forced on the airwaves through payola. There's lots of complexity in the structure of Melodic Rock songs. It's blending the Rock art with the art of melody.
I don't deny the arts of the genres you listed, I answer a bias. It's about good and bad. Hip Pop takes out the lyrical relevance of Hip Hop, and outs a dysfunctional form of music. Bieber, Soulja Boy etc.
@DecimationResolve Metal comes in many forms, complete with guitars and keyboards, and is not the tuneless form of sound detractors attempt to sell it for. Styles may differ per song by speed and arrangement. Some songs are Rock, some are Metal. Whitesnake, Dokken, Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Ratt, Cinderella, etcetera are different bands to Treat, Europe and Glory. Whatever you choose to call it, it can't be accurately denied good music.
@DecimationResolve This song in particular has a slower arrangement, which is why it gets called Pop Rock/AOR. A song like Europe's On The Loose differs again, as it's faster in speed and arrangement. That song would be classified as Heavy Metal.
In Flames is Death Metal, which is also merely a subgenre of Heavy Metal. Pure Heavy Metal differs a great deal from that sound.
Death Metal is actually very unlike evil and doesn't capture the bad guy image. They use all that to make it sell. Truth is most of these bands look like weirdos making appalling music by the general standard, where Treat are musicians mastering melodic Rock with a cool, appealing image.
The bad guy image is often charming and intelligent, while playing socio-politics with evil to make its statement.
For me it's just about what I feel. I don't care about time or style. But Treat is definitely a great Band and they still rock. I agree the in flames version sounds like "I want to be a bad guy"-version played by some kids - for me it sound somehow boring. The energy of the original version is gone there.
Finally Death Metal isn't harder either. It just repeats too many of the same sounds. Keyboards are R N R too. I like my Hard Rock/Heavy Metal all around great. The way it's supposed to be.
In Flames would better not have touched this one.Apart from being holy ground for a lot of us it contains feelings and innocence-faith in fighting for a better world.Sorry but In Flames apart from sounding out place and rhythm they really ain't got a clue what the song stands for-soulless amateurs really...
The image is the classic Hard Rock image in style. No makeup, no dirtbag look. It's the middle way of Hard Rockers looking like what a general audience associates with cool. These bands attract and feature women as no other.
This is Rock/Hard Rock/Heavy Metal music in its true, original form. It includes the melodic art of Pop , short for popular, being the general consensus of good music. Therefore it's also referred to as Pop Metal. Death Metal could never touch it. Tags are useless. Take it away and you have repulsive growling in front of often unflattering, monotonous sound vs. actual vocal skill fronting melodic Hard Rock/Heavy Metal music. There are different incarnations, but that's my critic for the genre.
monotonous sound? are you kidding, the guitar work in death metal is often unfathomable, and the drumming too. it takes great musicians to play and compose death metal, along with other metal, but most of the music in the mainstream is simple, boring, and talentless.
@EricAxel36 Like it says: not all, but a lot of what I heard. And I've heard them all. Just so I know what I'm talking about.
The point is Pop Metal being melodic art. Death Metal could never capture that attractiveness, as it focuses too much on repulsive sounds that are often easy to fabricate. The mainstream sucks now, but it was different 20 years ago. You can't compare it.
@EricAxel36 Read my posts, stop twisting words and addressing the obvious. It said from the get Death Metal has different incarnations that possess certain musical art forms. Melodic Death Metal has an art in melody. But it doesn't live up to the melodic mainstream, it still contains too much elements of generally considered repulsive, unimpressing sound. The vocals alone make the difference already.
You're the troll on the wrong video. If you don't like it; just say your piece and move on.
if anyone is trolling, it's you. your comments are so biased it's ridiculous.
i really don't want to discuss this anymore with someone who believes that their opinion is the right one. if you reply to this post i am not replying back. you can continue to listen to your generic, simple, near-talentless music.
@EricAxel36 Pot meets kettle. Let's not forget that it's the In Flames/Death Metal fans that keep complaining here. They try to take away from our music first of all. No respect for the original. I'm just answering it.
To me Treat/the original is clearly superior. In Flames/Death Metal is too flawed to be better. You may favor In Flames personally, but Treat has the better sound, according to what a majority understands as good.
@EricAxel36 You came up with something again? Weren't you leaving? At least that's what you said. Well, I'll be more than happy to go on with this pal. =)
Jonas Brothers - not a chance. Industry promoted plastic. Bubblegum Teen Pop. Just because they got promo it doesn't mean they also sell. When Pop Metal ruled, that's when music sold its highest amounts. That is the majority. Crap gets promo, that's why it doesn't sell.
Death Metal won't do any better though. It's not attractive enough.
@MikeTuinstra Death Metal sells because it has a loyal audience. A real Death Metal fan has every Death Metal record in his collection. Hip hop fans don't buy records to the same extent. I think Death Metal can be more profitable in the long run because of this loyalty. Think of Led Zeppelin. They never released a single, because they didn't want to sell out. Yet, their music still sells. The music industry is too focused on short term profit. Who buys Britney Spears today? Lady Gaga tomorrow?
@fbendz Your Soo wrong man really you that dumb. All kinds of music have a loyal fan base. The Music industry is focused on making money DUDE!! They push the most popular music at the time when its most popular. And as far as Led Zeppelin not ever releasing a single YOU WRONG !! I own 2.
Short term profit my ass Britney Spears has been selling out sence 1999
last year she made 64 million DUMB ASS. And she didnt even do a whole tour.
@EricAxel36 Read my posts, stop twisting words and addressing the obvious. It said from the get Death Metal has different incarnations that possess certain musical art forms. Melodic Death Metal has an art in melody. But it doesn't live up to the melodic mainstream, it still contains too much elements of generally considered repulsive, unimpressing sound. The vocals alone make the difference already.
You're the troll on the wrong video. If you don't like it; just say your piece and move on.
@MikeTuinstra you're completely wrong and ignorant about death metal. fyi. sounds like all you've ever heard is Six Feet Under. If you haven't had a decent amount of exposure to a genre of music..or anything at all, don't go critiquing it like you're some kind of music guru. you're not.
@MikeTuinstra I'll add... this is one of the few songs where the cover is better than the original, hands down. In flames' version has energy and pizzaz..this is just sad and corny.
I'm pretty sure, that I'm gay and I also love Treat because of their music. I saw them last week live in Germany and they were awesome. It's all about music not about people who waste their time in stupid discussions.
its always easy to cover songs,no idendity no soul.take the music and lyrics and and sing like you wanna die,thats all.
if i hear Melodic death metal,what a joke.like meldocic trash metal lol
everybody can listen his music,and taste is different.But please dont think in flames song is better,because its only stolen.the worse thing is most of their fans,dont even know its stolen,really poor sry
Cant wait for the new Treat cd melodic rockmusic will live forever
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@SuperTimebandit I knew it either wasn't In Flames, or something was wrong with them at the time, it didn't sound like In Flames at all and personally i think it SUCKED. But this version is so unbelievably GAY.
@SuperTimebandit. You can't say it's "stolen" if it's a cover, since it's just performed in a different way by other band. That is just their opinion how it should be played. Besides I CAN say that In Flames's version is better, like you said, everyone's taste of music is different. Don't get me wrong, this original version is, in fact, rather good, but in my opinion In Flames made it more energetic, therefore, much better.
@Blackfall234 what makes In Flames Musicians better?I think if you must live from ur music u have such a level that they are all pros.
there are musicians who play instruments they are so much harder to learn,than Guitar or Drums or Bass,or Keyboard,but they play kind of music i dont like,that means not they cant play.
Maybe In Flames are good Musicians,but they play Music that gives me absolutly nothin.And that Kind of singer sounds extremly terrible to me.
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what makes music GOOD istn the sound. Its the songwriting.
As example : In the Song the Jester Race are like 6 Guitars that match perfectly together. Or the Intro riff from Episode 666 is more complexe then this whole song.
In Flames got a huge sound variation. Listen to The Mirrors Truth and then to Colony.
You dont have to like them. But theire better musicians. Their riffing is more complexe then the riffing from much other Bands. The Drums are really got too.
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as i said before : u dont have to like it.
But why its so hard for the people to say a band that they dont like are betteer musicians ? In fact you can say what band makes better music. But you dont have to like them. If it would be like that. There would be no music critics.
@Blackfall234 Reading all of your posts now I conclude you are either an obsessed fanatic, or an attention seeking shill. Constantly stating faulty nonsense in favor of one band in particular. You're far from objective. At the end of the day it's these songs in the all time best of charts by people's choice. There is a reason why. Your sound doesn't sell.
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the reason why is because its Mainstream.
Im not fanatic, or maybe i am because we Metal-fans always have to hear bad things about our favourite music. Things like this : This sucks ! This is shit ! How can you call this music ???
If it would be with your favourite music like this. It would really piss you off.
@Blackfall234 Hard Rock/Heavy Metal music by its original definition has been underground for nearly 2 decades. Bad Hip Pop is what's on the charts. So it's hardly mainstream by its current crap definition. Your supposed understanding of the word.
It is however mainstream by people's choice. The Hip Pop sold now isn't. It's what unmusical frauds sell to make a quick buck. That's why the economy suffers and folds. It doesn't sell.
@Blackfall234 Bands like Iron Maiden are Pop, popular Metal as well. Mainstream. Metallica to a certain extent too. They make use of that aspect just like all the rest of them. The difference is that each band has their own sound.
The RIAA tried to separate; associate Heavy Metal with unflattering, monotonous sound and shouting, to reduce its audience for a devoid Hip Pop industry. A sound that doesn't require musical artistry. Hip Hop's art is lyrical first of all. For that it was good.
@Blackfall234 Melodic Rock is one of the most complex genres around. Not just anyone can perform it. Each musician is required to possess actual skill to craft a quality tune like that. It's factually a lot harder than just banging your instruments and shouting over it.
Music is about art of sound. Treat masters it and In Flames pales in comparison there. You can like In Flames, just don't sell them for better. You'll be proven wrong so fast it'll make your head spin. 8)
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@Zetvirus55 But so is the In Flames version. And I'm not an In Flames hater, in fact it's my favourite band, but they should never have covered this atrocity.
There's no competition with In Flames to me. Treat actually sings a great tune. In Flames seems somewhat sped up, I like the music on their version, but the original blend of melodic Hard Rock guitar and synth beat all for me. The growl is funny from time to time, but this is the real deal to me.
The gay tag is merely 00's Pop Rap industry bogus. It's about taking the Pop aspect away from Rock. An attempt to make good music uncool and sell junk for gold. Not wanted. Rockers unite. IMO.
To each their own. IMO this music obviously gets the better of In Flames. I'm not saying In Flames can't play, but they lack the essence of a generally considered good tune. And I'd say it's obvious why.
However: it first of all regards the Hip Hop Pop, Hip Pop the industry has been selling. Obsolete mixture, junk created by those unable to deliver. They are the people setting up a few definitions to get rid of competition. They are the ones who benefit from it. That's why music doesn't sell.
No, I like Heavy Metal. But Death Metal isn't my favorite genre. It's cool and all for one offs, and I certainly haven't got as much problems with it as the Hip Pop bogus, but I can see why that stuff doesn't do big things.
I much favor this sound here myself as well. Rock/Hard Rock/Heavy Metal in Pop = popular approach = mass appeal. The craftsmanship creating a pleasant, impressive sound against the listening ear. It's what I call the art of music.
in flames cover suxx u know if u dont like the original suck some cock u moron... this is a good heavy metal band... they can sing really good in flames its cool but the cover suxx..
For all the guys here who are stuck in classic rock ruts MODERN MUSIC DOES NOT SUCK modern mainstream music sucks you guys just haven't looked hard enough bands like Opeth, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree are keeping music alive there's nothing wrong with classic rock i love of but come on people get your heads out of your asses
you're right... this was music. AT THE SAME TIME as metallica and megadeth. And 10-15 years after groups like aerosmith, black sabbath and ozzy ozbourne. who never in a million years could sound as gay as treat. I mean even elo was before treat and kick their ass!
after listening to the in flames cover you'll hate this original version. i know i do.
TkrB 1 week ago
yeah it's good...but still too slow and too dull...
sorry to all you 80's rock fans, but in flames version is way better, and lets face it...more modern. you cant live by the past and ignore all the good stuff in the present
PutiMeister 2 weeks ago
The chic = HOT The music= CRAP
Stadiumrock 1 month ago
Heja Sverige!
traxcom 1 month ago
How can people come here just to say shit like In Flames version is better? In Flames version wouldnt be better than this even if they had wrote this.
This is how music must be and not like that scream emo thing.
DannyelBonJovi 2 months ago
@DannyelBonJovi Because people have different tastes in music and came here to see what the original was like because they love the In Flames cover. In Flames is the greatest band that ever existed and I think they perfected this song and their version is so much better then Treat's original version, however I came here to give my respect to Treat for originally writing the song.
RikiazGaming 2 months ago
In Flames' is better, but you should always respect the original.
taeyeeun 2 months ago
TREAT another good band.M
tremontification 3 months ago
Anyone willing to explain what in the hell this video has to do with the lyrics?
Though she's quite steaming so I don't know if I should care, really.
SuperPekka 4 months ago 4
@SuperPekka
i guess that the girl who aparently is Colombian means the warmer land than Svergie is,
and the band are the inmigrants from the colder land. it is in the lyrics indeed.
kkolorexx 4 days ago
i like girls like in this clip,is anybody ther
urosheavymetalbanger 5 months ago
i like like i this clip,is anybody ther
urosheavymetalbanger 5 months ago
WHat a hottie that lady... whats her name??? awesome track.. i like more than inflames.
walleskyleev 5 months ago
Fan va skönt att höra robban igen!!! tack !!!
Ztormtrooper 5 months ago
sexy girl !! awesome music................
65mrmontana 8 months ago
GREAT BAND... Just discovered it... gotta get their music!!!
elvengadorcerocho 8 months ago
in flames cover > this
but still good
tomatoes100 8 months ago 3
HELL YES¡¡¡I LOVE YOU ROCK AND ROLL¡¡¡YOU'RE ALWAYS IN MY HEART¡¡¡I WILL NEVER GONNA BETRAYED YOU¡¡¡AMEN.
metalheart4u9 8 months ago
pink fluffy boxing gloves with pics of kities on them??? abit counter intuitive.
Expectation247 9 months ago
@monsterenergypower you cant compare IF style to Treat,first of all respect originals :D
eraser979 9 months ago
god they sound so much like Europe, must be a europian thing.........
algor123 9 months ago
These guys would have been huge in the 80s if they only had good representation and a record company that was willing to promote them. But alas, another great musical group that had fallen to the way side. Good thing they are still around to put out great music.
rhomotor 9 months ago
in flames verison e mkt bättre
monsterenergypower 10 months ago
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eraser979 9 months ago
in flames verison e mkt bättre
monsterenergypower 10 months ago
in flames version is much better
monsterenergypower 10 months ago
Great band!
iuliandijma 10 months ago
Her name is Brigitta Cimarolli, btw.
modestlife 10 months ago
Wikström guden av hit rock
Rowe706 11 months ago
I love 1980's chicks.
sadaist 11 months ago
I didn't know this was a song.
I thought In Flames wrote World of promises themselves.
FUCK
nerdofdeath 1 year ago
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Flunkorg 1 year ago
@nerdofdeath
Muhaha, get some =)
MysticGentlemanPRD 1 year ago
@nerdofdeath Same here. FUCK!
MetalJody1990 10 months ago
first I heard the cover from In Flames and i didn't know it's just a cover, today i realised what a fucking great song i was missing for years!
BloCKheadKamikaze 1 year ago
this is like a playboy vid mix with a music video. but seriously that chick is hot! anyone knows her name?
sideswipe1992 1 year ago
@sideswipe1992
Brigitta Cimarolli
tortenecke 11 months ago
@tortenecke ok so i was right she is a playboy model
sideswipe1992 11 months ago
Ok both versions are awesome in my books!
And yes that chick is very hot. But very stupid as she's wearing headgear to punch a bag.... Is it going to hit back?
EatinPucks 1 year ago
Um... In Flames version is better.
pspvampire 1 year ago 4
@pspvampire In Flames got it from Treat. Treat were the authors of this song. They made it.
AnubisMudkip 1 year ago
@pspvampire
I agree
RandomoVideos 1 year ago
@pspvampire no way... In Flames cover is MUCH better
chrosalses 1 year ago
When i first heard this song... I thought it was a Europe song
MrLefty91 1 year ago
These guys rock
ThatBassist6 1 year ago
music? all i saw was some hot swedish chick punching a bag.
mutzwillkillyou 1 year ago
too many people talkin too much bullshit.
Like it or not and respect a different opinion.
That´s what its all about.
I know this song and video from the late 80s TV show mosh.
I did some homework now about "AOR" and just recently
bought the dreamhunter album.
My favorite song is Sole survivor.
DickHertz247 1 year ago
Big thanks to In Flames for introducing me to this tune!
kemorc 1 year ago 4
affengeil
chrigihosenfan 1 year ago
i give em respect for doing it first but i must say i like in flames version better
crankylobster 1 year ago 10
LOVIN IT!
Amazing song
ledari 1 year ago
J'adore ! Excellent !
Oceancity6 1 year ago
I love this song and video!!! PURE 80s!!!
oceanratt 1 year ago
@thedrip Don't forget it's you people badmouthing our music here. Just giving back some respect.
I don't care what you listen, but don't try to take away from something good. Makes you fake. The original energizes the Rock in melodic art, therefore I consider it to have the better of the cover.
But whatever. I think we should rather form a unit for R N R, aka true music, and address the Hip Pop fraud. They're who started this argument in the first place. Real Metal fans respect each other.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 37
@MikeTuinstra You're no different than them.
There is no true music, only genres that apply more musical theory than others.
Rock n Roll is music, Hip hop is music, Death metal is music.
And melodic rock, complex? Not at all.
Complex is progressive, some folcloric music, symphonies, that's complex.
Thats the reason only certain people like them. Metal tends to have complex rhytms, for people with musical knowledge. Mainstream music, however, is usually simple, friendly to non-musicians.
posm 1 year ago
@posm You seem to deny melody in Rock for musical art. It's mainstream for being popular, as opposed to the "mainstream" trash that gets forced on the airwaves through payola. There's lots of complexity in the structure of Melodic Rock songs. It's blending the Rock art with the art of melody.
I don't deny the arts of the genres you listed, I answer a bias. It's about good and bad. Hip Pop takes out the lyrical relevance of Hip Hop, and outs a dysfunctional form of music. Bieber, Soulja Boy etc.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra This isn't metal, but without it In Flames could not have made it completely kick ass, so therefore I respect it.
DecimationResolve 1 year ago
@DecimationResolve Metal comes in many forms, complete with guitars and keyboards, and is not the tuneless form of sound detractors attempt to sell it for. Styles may differ per song by speed and arrangement. Some songs are Rock, some are Metal. Whitesnake, Dokken, Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Ratt, Cinderella, etcetera are different bands to Treat, Europe and Glory. Whatever you choose to call it, it can't be accurately denied good music.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra Didn't say it was bad, but it definitely does not come into the Metal genre.
DecimationResolve 1 year ago
@DecimationResolve This song in particular has a slower arrangement, which is why it gets called Pop Rock/AOR. A song like Europe's On The Loose differs again, as it's faster in speed and arrangement. That song would be classified as Heavy Metal.
In Flames is Death Metal, which is also merely a subgenre of Heavy Metal. Pure Heavy Metal differs a great deal from that sound.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
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PurpleStain6 1 year ago
i will never get tired of this music this band
and yeah this look is like a chik magnet
10569970 1 year ago
Death Metal is actually very unlike evil and doesn't capture the bad guy image. They use all that to make it sell. Truth is most of these bands look like weirdos making appalling music by the general standard, where Treat are musicians mastering melodic Rock with a cool, appealing image.
The bad guy image is often charming and intelligent, while playing socio-politics with evil to make its statement.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
For me it's just about what I feel. I don't care about time or style. But Treat is definitely a great Band and they still rock. I agree the in flames version sounds like "I want to be a bad guy"-version played by some kids - for me it sound somehow boring. The energy of the original version is gone there.
enuxs 1 year ago
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the inflames cover is horrible! and in the death metal theres no ladies hahahahaha
512mb1 1 year ago
the inflames cover is horrible!
512mb1 1 year ago
Finally Death Metal isn't harder either. It just repeats too many of the same sounds. Keyboards are R N R too. I like my Hard Rock/Heavy Metal all around great. The way it's supposed to be.
=================Glam FTW!===================
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 6
epic glam metal ftw ! :D
Kapuzina1337 1 year ago 5
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like the in flames version more
mitchell0406 1 year ago
In Flames would better not have touched this one.Apart from being holy ground for a lot of us it contains feelings and innocence-faith in fighting for a better world.Sorry but In Flames apart from sounding out place and rhythm they really ain't got a clue what the song stands for-soulless amateurs really...
SkidFuckingRow 1 year ago
The image is the classic Hard Rock image in style. No makeup, no dirtbag look. It's the middle way of Hard Rockers looking like what a general audience associates with cool. These bands attract and feature women as no other.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 23
@MikeTuinstra
it was Glam metal,
fireboltttt 1 year ago
This is Rock/Hard Rock/Heavy Metal music in its true, original form. It includes the melodic art of Pop , short for popular, being the general consensus of good music. Therefore it's also referred to as Pop Metal. Death Metal could never touch it. Tags are useless. Take it away and you have repulsive growling in front of often unflattering, monotonous sound vs. actual vocal skill fronting melodic Hard Rock/Heavy Metal music. There are different incarnations, but that's my critic for the genre.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 12
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@MikeTuinstra
monotonous sound? are you kidding, the guitar work in death metal is often unfathomable, and the drumming too. it takes great musicians to play and compose death metal, along with other metal, but most of the music in the mainstream is simple, boring, and talentless.
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@EricAxel36 Like it says: not all, but a lot of what I heard. And I've heard them all. Just so I know what I'm talking about.
The point is Pop Metal being melodic art. Death Metal could never capture that attractiveness, as it focuses too much on repulsive sounds that are often easy to fabricate. The mainstream sucks now, but it was different 20 years ago. You can't compare it.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 4
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@MikeTuinstra
Death Metal isn't art? Melodic Death Metal isn't melodic art?
come one now, some of what you are saying is just silly and biased.
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@EricAxel36 Read my posts, stop twisting words and addressing the obvious. It said from the get Death Metal has different incarnations that possess certain musical art forms. Melodic Death Metal has an art in melody. But it doesn't live up to the melodic mainstream, it still contains too much elements of generally considered repulsive, unimpressing sound. The vocals alone make the difference already.
You're the troll on the wrong video. If you don't like it; just say your piece and move on.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
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@MikeTuinstra
i'm not even trolling.
if anyone is trolling, it's you. your comments are so biased it's ridiculous.
i really don't want to discuss this anymore with someone who believes that their opinion is the right one. if you reply to this post i am not replying back. you can continue to listen to your generic, simple, near-talentless music.
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@EricAxel36 Pot meets kettle. Let's not forget that it's the In Flames/Death Metal fans that keep complaining here. They try to take away from our music first of all. No respect for the original. I'm just answering it.
To me Treat/the original is clearly superior. In Flames/Death Metal is too flawed to be better. You may favor In Flames personally, but Treat has the better sound, according to what a majority understands as good.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 6
@MikeTuinstra
what majority understands as good?... i guess the Jonas Brothers are the best band in the world in that case
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@EricAxel36 You came up with something again? Weren't you leaving? At least that's what you said. Well, I'll be more than happy to go on with this pal. =)
Jonas Brothers - not a chance. Industry promoted plastic. Bubblegum Teen Pop. Just because they got promo it doesn't mean they also sell. When Pop Metal ruled, that's when music sold its highest amounts. That is the majority. Crap gets promo, that's why it doesn't sell.
Death Metal won't do any better though. It's not attractive enough.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra Death Metal sells because it has a loyal audience. A real Death Metal fan has every Death Metal record in his collection. Hip hop fans don't buy records to the same extent. I think Death Metal can be more profitable in the long run because of this loyalty. Think of Led Zeppelin. They never released a single, because they didn't want to sell out. Yet, their music still sells. The music industry is too focused on short term profit. Who buys Britney Spears today? Lady Gaga tomorrow?
fbendz 1 year ago
@fbendz Your Soo wrong man really you that dumb. All kinds of music have a loyal fan base. The Music industry is focused on making money DUDE!! They push the most popular music at the time when its most popular. And as far as Led Zeppelin not ever releasing a single YOU WRONG !! I own 2.
Short term profit my ass Britney Spears has been selling out sence 1999
last year she made 64 million DUMB ASS. And she didnt even do a whole tour.
Know what your talking about before SAY A WORD!!
Bluerocker77 1 year ago
@EricAxel36 Read my posts, stop twisting words and addressing the obvious. It said from the get Death Metal has different incarnations that possess certain musical art forms. Melodic Death Metal has an art in melody. But it doesn't live up to the melodic mainstream, it still contains too much elements of generally considered repulsive, unimpressing sound. The vocals alone make the difference already.
You're the troll on the wrong video. If you don't like it; just say your piece and move on.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 5
@MikeTuinstra you're completely wrong and ignorant about death metal. fyi. sounds like all you've ever heard is Six Feet Under. If you haven't had a decent amount of exposure to a genre of music..or anything at all, don't go critiquing it like you're some kind of music guru. you're not.
thedrip 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra I'll add... this is one of the few songs where the cover is better than the original, hands down. In flames' version has energy and pizzaz..this is just sad and corny.
thedrip 1 year ago
@thedrip
Sonata Arctica's covers are awsome ^^ (I want out (Helloween), Die with yours boots on (Iron Maiden) etc)
SCCH28 1 year ago
@SCCH28 Yehhh >_< Wind beneath my wings cover was a laugh too! Sonata Arctica are a GREAT band ^.^
PurpleStain6 1 year ago
saw them last sunday, amazing!
clarylovesrock 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure, that I'm gay and I also love Treat because of their music. I saw them last week live in Germany and they were awesome. It's all about music not about people who waste their time in stupid discussions.
enuxs 1 year ago
@enuxs i agree totaly.Its the music that counts
Treat rules
SuperTimebandit 1 year ago 2
0:29 blue hair???
136105 1 year ago
I love the prechorus XD
RandomoVideos 1 year ago
Hair metal rules.
New album out anytime!!
kevsablade 1 year ago
how could a video of a sexy half naked girl be gay(even if its from the 80s)?
christiannandres 1 year ago 5
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great song.
terrible video.
j2times2006 1 year ago
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SO GAY.
megadeth168 1 year ago
Check out PASSION LANE!
officialpassionlane 2 years ago
What a fuckin jam.
JorgonQ 2 years ago
TREAT RULES !!!
Metalchris74 2 years ago 5
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much gayer than in flames cover.
twiggyomega 2 years ago
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@twiggyomega True, but world of promises is the only song ever done by In Flames that I actually think is BAD.
Demonbart 2 years ago
its normal melodic rock,has nothin to do with being gay.
it seems you like hard music,its you right.!!
I love treat,and im pretty sure im not gay
SuperTimebandit 2 years ago 7
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that IS gay...
naxxramaz 2 years ago
its always easy to cover songs,no idendity no soul.take the music and lyrics and and sing like you wanna die,thats all.
if i hear Melodic death metal,what a joke.like meldocic trash metal lol
everybody can listen his music,and taste is different.But please dont think in flames song is better,because its only stolen.the worse thing is most of their fans,dont even know its stolen,really poor sry
Cant wait for the new Treat cd melodic rockmusic will live forever
A BIG TREAT FAN
SuperTimebandit 2 years ago
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@SuperTimebandit I knew it either wasn't In Flames, or something was wrong with them at the time, it didn't sound like In Flames at all and personally i think it SUCKED. But this version is so unbelievably GAY.
Demonbart 2 years ago
@SuperTimebandit. You can't say it's "stolen" if it's a cover, since it's just performed in a different way by other band. That is just their opinion how it should be played. Besides I CAN say that In Flames's version is better, like you said, everyone's taste of music is different. Don't get me wrong, this original version is, in fact, rather good, but in my opinion In Flames made it more energetic, therefore, much better.
kanarialintu 2 years ago
@kanarialintu no problem for me,maybe not stolen,but create a song its much more work,then performing a song in a different way.
The words and the melody thats the hard part,its ok for me you like in flames.
But only performing a song in a different way,its much easier!! Thats the Fact,and i dont like the way the singer sounds!!!
Not more not less
Rock on!!
SuperTimebandit 2 years ago
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i dont know other songs from Treat but im pretty sure In Flames made better music.
Just look the Guitar in Episode 666. The Intro Riff is harder and more complexe then most or nearly all of this song ( ok not the solo ) .
I dont have a problem with simple Music but maybe you should check out that In Flames are really good musicians.
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 its ur kind of music,and i respect that u are thinkin that way.
But for me it sounds like trash sry
SuperTimebandit 1 year ago 7
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how much ignorance is in this world ? god help me-.-
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 lol your taste your style,its ignorant to think all people must think that way.
i like clear voices and good melodies,that all!!
Nobody sings normaly like this guy from in flames.
finally let me say read post from Mike Tuinstra hes right
SuperTimebandit 1 year ago 8
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I dont say you have to like the In Flames cover.
But why its so hard to say that In Flames are the better Musicians ? Treat wont become bad because of that.
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 what makes In Flames Musicians better?I think if you must live from ur music u have such a level that they are all pros.
there are musicians who play instruments they are so much harder to learn,than Guitar or Drums or Bass,or Keyboard,but they play kind of music i dont like,that means not they cant play.
Maybe In Flames are good Musicians,but they play Music that gives me absolutly nothin.And that Kind of singer sounds extremly terrible to me.
But only for my taste.
SuperTimebandit 1 year ago
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what makes music GOOD istn the sound. Its the songwriting.
As example : In the Song the Jester Race are like 6 Guitars that match perfectly together. Or the Intro riff from Episode 666 is more complexe then this whole song.
In Flames got a huge sound variation. Listen to The Mirrors Truth and then to Colony.
You dont have to like them. But theire better musicians. Their riffing is more complexe then the riffing from much other Bands. The Drums are really got too.
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 said it be4 its your own taste,others think different.And if they play with 100 guitars,i dont like it.
What makes a song good,at the end its always the melody,thats all that counts for me.
And i dont like that kind of singing u think he sits on the toilet sry
SuperTimebandit 1 year ago 2
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as i said before : u dont have to like it.
But why its so hard for the people to say a band that they dont like are betteer musicians ? In fact you can say what band makes better music. But you dont have to like them. If it would be like that. There would be no music critics.
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 Reading all of your posts now I conclude you are either an obsessed fanatic, or an attention seeking shill. Constantly stating faulty nonsense in favor of one band in particular. You're far from objective. At the end of the day it's these songs in the all time best of charts by people's choice. There is a reason why. Your sound doesn't sell.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 4
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the reason why is because its Mainstream.
Im not fanatic, or maybe i am because we Metal-fans always have to hear bad things about our favourite music. Things like this : This sucks ! This is shit ! How can you call this music ???
If it would be with your favourite music like this. It would really piss you off.
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 Hypocrisy. It's all you ever do on here.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 5
@Blackfall234 Hard Rock/Heavy Metal music by its original definition has been underground for nearly 2 decades. Bad Hip Pop is what's on the charts. So it's hardly mainstream by its current crap definition. Your supposed understanding of the word.
It is however mainstream by people's choice. The Hip Pop sold now isn't. It's what unmusical frauds sell to make a quick buck. That's why the economy suffers and folds. It doesn't sell.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 5
In the time of Treat Hard Rock/Rock was the commercial music.
Back in time Hip Hop was good.
Just today hip hop and pop are mainstream. ( ok they were always mainstream )
If you think Iron Maiden or Metallica were underground then youre wrong.
In that time Metal was the music that every teens listened to
Blackfall234 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 Bands like Iron Maiden are Pop, popular Metal as well. Mainstream. Metallica to a certain extent too. They make use of that aspect just like all the rest of them. The difference is that each band has their own sound.
The RIAA tried to separate; associate Heavy Metal with unflattering, monotonous sound and shouting, to reduce its audience for a devoid Hip Pop industry. A sound that doesn't require musical artistry. Hip Hop's art is lyrical first of all. For that it was good.
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago
@Blackfall234 Melodic Rock is one of the most complex genres around. Not just anyone can perform it. Each musician is required to possess actual skill to craft a quality tune like that. It's factually a lot harder than just banging your instruments and shouting over it.
Music is about art of sound. Treat masters it and In Flames pales in comparison there. You can like In Flames, just don't sell them for better. You'll be proven wrong so fast it'll make your head spin. 8)
MikeTuinstra 1 year ago 4
@MikeTuinstra
just banging your instruments and shouting over it?
are you referring to that being what death metal is?
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra
just banging your instruments and shouting over it?
are you referring to that being what death metal is?
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra
just banging your instruments and shouting over it?
are you referring to that being what death metal is?
EricAxel36 1 year ago
@MikeTuinstra
just banging your instruments and shouting over it?
are you referring to that being what death metal is?
EricAxel36 1 year ago
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normally I'd take mid-ground in the Treat/In Flames argument, but I gotta say, original is god-awful
Zetvirus55 2 years ago
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i rele dont like this verision i think in flames is a lot better just because i like their music
dISTurbEd5552 2 years ago
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@Zetvirus55 But so is the In Flames version. And I'm not an In Flames hater, in fact it's my favourite band, but they should never have covered this atrocity.
Demonbart 2 years ago
in flames cover of this song is fucking horrible.
This song is great!
ledari 2 years ago
your mom! -.-
1BaBam1 2 years ago
If i hear this one, i have to say that the one from In Flames is a bad cover.... ;x
jaapblack 2 years ago 3
There's no competition with In Flames to me. Treat actually sings a great tune. In Flames seems somewhat sped up, I like the music on their version, but the original blend of melodic Hard Rock guitar and synth beat all for me. The growl is funny from time to time, but this is the real deal to me.
The gay tag is merely 00's Pop Rap industry bogus. It's about taking the Pop aspect away from Rock. An attempt to make good music uncool and sell junk for gold. Not wanted. Rockers unite. IMO.
MikeTuinstra 2 years ago 4
@MikeTuinstra what? make good music uncool?
OmriSama 2 years ago
That's right, a scam from those lacking the skills to produce a good tune. That's quite obviously been going on all throughout the past decade to me.
MikeTuinstra 2 years ago
But In Flames are not lacking skills. They are actually really good.
Or they used to be atleast.
OmriSama 2 years ago
To each their own. IMO this music obviously gets the better of In Flames. I'm not saying In Flames can't play, but they lack the essence of a generally considered good tune. And I'd say it's obvious why.
However: it first of all regards the Hip Hop Pop, Hip Pop the industry has been selling. Obsolete mixture, junk created by those unable to deliver. They are the people setting up a few definitions to get rid of competition. They are the ones who benefit from it. That's why music doesn't sell.
MikeTuinstra 2 years ago 4
I guess you're just not a Metal person. In Flames is one of the pioneers of classic Melodic Death Metal as I reckon.
Yeah, the Hip-Pop-Rap stuff they have on the radio today is balls.
OmriSama 2 years ago 2
No, I like Heavy Metal. But Death Metal isn't my favorite genre. It's cool and all for one offs, and I certainly haven't got as much problems with it as the Hip Pop bogus, but I can see why that stuff doesn't do big things.
I much favor this sound here myself as well. Rock/Hard Rock/Heavy Metal in Pop = popular approach = mass appeal. The craftsmanship creating a pleasant, impressive sound against the listening ear. It's what I call the art of music.
MikeTuinstra 2 years ago 7
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its not bad, but in flames does it much better.
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yuie2 2 years ago
in flames cover suxx u know if u dont like the original suck some cock u moron... this is a good heavy metal band... they can sing really good in flames its cool but the cover suxx..
VELVETACIDWALL 2 years ago
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i think this version SUX compared to in flames
dISTurbEd5552 2 years ago
I listened to this after hearing In Flames' cover. Not bad at all. Love the chorus.
Domovoi07 2 years ago 3
Who cares about who decided it, In Flames version is soooo great, that now I even like the original one!! :D
Arlandf 2 years ago
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The real question is who was the fag in In Flames who convinced the others to cover this crap
DecadenteVideoPirata 2 years ago
Fag?
Crap?
Why?
Because there's no grawl?
:/
StormSpirit88 2 years ago 7
Really good song.
Russchain 2 years ago 4
Traet are a fantastic Band,who cares about In flames,always worth a laugh.
I fly in October to England to see them live again,and i cant wait for the new Cd,coming up this Year.
Classic Rock will never die
SuperTimebandit 2 years ago 4
the lead singer reminds me of Dave Mustaine lol
thisryanthe 2 years ago
IN FLAMES WE TRUST !!
PORTUGAL
friendmaker 2 years ago 3
In Flames owns this song...
zaiah93 2 years ago
I wouldn't say so this song is from the 80s, Flames was founded 1990......
komacommunity 2 years ago
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are you dumb ? in flames made a cover of this song
fiskenertrondheim 2 years ago
For all the guys here who are stuck in classic rock ruts MODERN MUSIC DOES NOT SUCK modern mainstream music sucks you guys just haven't looked hard enough bands like Opeth, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree are keeping music alive there's nothing wrong with classic rock i love of but come on people get your heads out of your asses
NO11YOU 2 years ago
Awesome song.
shungbat 2 years ago
How can a boy or girl say that like music? Simple Plan? Fall Out Boys? FUCK TRASH. THIS IS MUSIC. GOD BLESS THE 80's
raulmurito 2 years ago 3
This was music, this WAS rock not the shit that we listen to now a days! In flames made this song better? Yeah even the donkey is able to fly!!!!!!
mandarans 2 years ago 3
you're right... this was music. AT THE SAME TIME as metallica and megadeth. And 10-15 years after groups like aerosmith, black sabbath and ozzy ozbourne. who never in a million years could sound as gay as treat. I mean even elo was before treat and kick their ass!
thisistheescapeplan 2 years ago
as much as I don't like covers... in flames made this song sound better. this version is just a little too glam for me
thisistheescapeplan 2 years ago
Yes!
skrumbanan 2 years ago
Great Song ! Great Video !
kissunmasked1980 2 years ago 2
I think people forget that In Flames liked this song enough to do a cover of it
DieForMetal8 2 years ago 7
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how gay, In flames version is way better.
MkNeelz360 2 years ago