JOSE ARGUELLES WITH WILLIAM GLADSTONE AUTHOR OF THE TWELVE

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Argüelles countered this criticism by stating that his calendar

is "correct and biologically accurate...for the whole planet", and

that he is the "heir of the legacy of Pacal Votan and the instrument

of his prophecy, Telektonon". [1] Argüelles is now one of several

individuals who have contributed to the spread of Mayanism, a

collection of beliefs based on metaphysical speculation about the

ancient Maya."

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. The beginning of Arguelles' year is fixed to July 26.

Thus his count of days departs from the haab as it was known to Maya

scribes before the Spanish conquest. Arguelles claims that the

Thirteen Moon Calendar is synchronized with the calendar round.

Clearly, it is not."[1]

His calendar is also not correctly synchronized with that observed by

the Maya. For example, in the traditional count January 1, 2005 is 5

Muluk, while in the Dreamspell it is 2 Etznab.

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difference b/n Jose Arguelle's 13 Moon calender and the *real* mayan count as put out there by the Mayan elders. And I've noticed that Jose has distanced himself from using the word 'mayan' on new publications etc. This is causing lots of confusion etc. What do other people think about the disparity of the two? It seems that Jose channelled his version and the other is from the mayan heritage.... any ideas on books that might look at the *real* mayan calender?

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Saq Be, an organization reflecting indigenous and especially Mayan views

says: "Regarding the dreamspell and work of Arguelles: It has been made

clear, I think everybody here understands, the need to distinguish this

system from any relation to the Mayan tradition.

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Jose, claims to have made improvements on the Mayan sacred calendar with his revised dating of the calendar. Unfortunately he has never conferred with the Mayan people on his invented count.

In fact he has resolutely rebutted communications from the Mayan elders concerning his errors in presenting their sacred information to the world at large. Finally, the Maya have forbidden him from speaking anywhere in Mexico or Guatemala.