true but if you barley use the reins why do you need a pelhman?
and you still dont have any conection but know im off of that because i understand that even thought it doesnt matter whatt your horses you have a lot to worry about like if he is cantering on the counter lead to jump 7.... but why a pelham
@DressageGirly1 99% of riders use pelhams not because they need to, but because it's the style. most, if not all, of the big eq horses could easily go in a simple snaffle.
why do people make up such silly disciplines like eq? ya the way they LOOK is good but i think it should be about how you ride you horse! these girls have no connection with these horses what so ever and i dont even understand why they need pellams if they dont even touch there mouth there is like no point were she tightens her reins at all! soo weird
@DressageGirly1 The basis of good riding is good equitation..most of the kids that show in big eq are the top junior riders in the world. Not to mention most of the TOP professionals won big equitation finals. The point of equitation is to look smooth, no shit they use pelhams so they don't have to yank on the reins. They have connection at all times, they're just such good riders that you can't even notice.
@LAdriaanse I'll tell you what-when you can jump a course of 3'6" with equitation like them and make it look effortless, with a loose ring snaffle on a warmblood, post a video of it and let me know. Do you realize you're comparing DRESSAGE (aka flatting...) to jumping a 3'6" course...? That's stupid. Yes dressage is hard when you get to the upper levels, but don't compare it to jumping. Bye.
@stupidblond428a i didn't say anything about brianne goutal's eq..? you're being stupid, basically. i'm not going to fight with you over youtube, especially because i don't know you & you don't know me, nor do you know what my case is. your comment said she rides in a pelham so she doesn't have to "yank" on her horse's mouth. no rider should ever have to yank on her horse's mouth, no matter the level. that's all i have to say to you, so "bye" (;
@stupidblond428a i compete in dressage too. & it isn't specifically equitation. i've actually got first level test one in front of me.. yes, rider's position & seat is a collective mark, so i concur to the fact that some of it is equitation. with that being said, it isn't fully judged on a rider's equitation on a dressage test. any dressage rider would know that. (unless, of course, you're riding in a dressage seat equitation class.. which i have ridden in, in which case you'd be right.)
@DressageGirly1 Yeah you're sooo right. In a sport where the rider is judged, it's 90% based off the horse. And ZOMG you're so correct, eq riders have NO idea how to use reins..or what they are. In fact, the horses memorize the courses themselves so they can make the turns, since the riders have no idea how to use the reins. Btw, equtation horses (who show at 3'6") are probably worth the same if not more than a dressage horse at the highest level..awkward
@stupidblond428a OPPPS! im sorry the riders do have to memorize there course but and they only use there legs... most of all americain eq/hunter riders dont know how to even get a horse into a working frame with true connection and collection. and you think eq horses better than dressage horses? dressage may be on of the most difficult equine sport on the face of the earth! have you ever heard of a $33 million hunter/eq horse? i think not!
@DressageGirly1 Their* and I guess you're not very well educated about the equitation world. Have you ever seen them school? Funny because when they do, they school in snaffles and their horses are in frame. Dressage is a hard disipline in a sense of the perfection you achieve, but you can't compare equitation and dressage..they're too different in so many ways. And 33 million was for a horse at the HIGHEST level of competition..eq horses have sold for 700+k and they only jump 3'6"..awkward
@stupidblond428a why are they never showed with a frame?! oviously if its judged on how you look, you can ride the horse the same way you do at home, and if she is at a final, would she be at the higest level of competition since she is at the eq finals?
@DressageGirly1 If you watch the flat phase of equitation, their horses are in frame, but they aren't in frame during the jumping portion because it really isn't needed. I personally like my horse to be relaxed when I enter the ring. Not making sure he's in frame during the whole entire course, it just looks more natural. It's kind of hard to explain on here, but equitation isn't judged on just how you look, it's everything. Your style, how easy and effortless you make the course seem, (Cont)
@DressageGirly1 (Cont) how you present yourself in the ring, etc. In my opinion, I don't view equitation finals as being at the top level, although it is the highest you can go in the equitation. Being at the the very top is competing in the prixs and/or olympic level (in my opinion).
@DressageGirly1 Well then I'll assume you haven't been to an equitation final to watch them flat...their horses are in frames and I witnessed it in person at Maclay Finals this year.
@DressageGirly1 Sorry the horses are trained correctly...? They're not tamed, it's called proper training. You're obviously not understanding what I'm saying, so I give up. Dressage riders are the BEST, they all ride perfectly and are #1. They're better than any jumpers and dressage is WAY harder than jumping any jump at all, I assume that's what you want to hear.
@stupidblond428a no i would say grand prix level in both dressage and jumping are equaly the same but, some of these horses are so well trained that they can just automaticly put there head down for the eq. clases with such ease so the girls dont have connection, sure its hard work to look nice on the horse always perfecting your self how you look
@DressageGirly1 What's wrong with a horse being well trained? And equitation is more than just looking nice..you have to find your distances and make the course look smooth WHILE having perfect equitation. I do dressage and I've done a 3rd level test before..I can honestly say jumping is harder than dressage (in my opinion). My scores were low-mid 60's though haha
@stupidblond428a i did not say there is anything worng with any trained horse, and you are totally correct about your distancess and the level of perfection. i am an eventer and i think personally perfecting how you and your horse and looking for your own distances away from the letters always preparing is a smidge harder than jumping. but when it comes to all the thinking about eq and all the thinking you do in dressage eq and dressage are totally even. but the dressage riders have better (con)
@stupidblond428a Cont- connection with the horses mouth and are more capable of doing more things. and thats when i dont under stand why you need a pelham if there reins are soo lose and disconected
@DressageGirly1 Well dressage, the horses are required to be on the bit and you're required to have a connection. and for the eq horses, they just go in the bit that they go best in. and it's a snaffle..so it doesn't hurt them or anything. Plus the rider's hands are very soft, so in no way do the bits cause discomfort for the horses
if you know what a musical kur is for dressage, you should definitely do one with that horse. you are beautiful together and you could easily win dressage on him even if he isn't a dressage horse. that song fits him perfectly. great job with the course too!
i have to agree with some people on here. i have absolutely no right to criticize brianna goutal because i will never be able to ride like her. she's like an equitation god, but I don't think this is her best at all. I thinkshe could do better to sit down on her horse more, keep her hands straight up and down (no piano hands) and at a couple times her arms came way out and she needed to keep her elbows in a bit more. i think she really owned it at the maclay though. that was one of her best!! [:
i think she knows exactly what she's doing. she has a great strategic plan that made her so successful in all these finals so i wouldn't start critiquing her much.
What's the point in leaning forward [before] the jumps? First, it looks awful. Second, if the horse stops or runs out then you're out the side door I'm afraid.. We're always taught over here to sit up, sit back, and sit quietly and it works.
@BeachHorses369 They're only showing at 3'6"? Their knees don't go out...these horses are treated like ROYALTY at home and are constantly cared for...Logan is now 17 or maybe older and he is still doing the big eq.
@stupidblond428a Not so much the landing as it is the leaning of the rider so the horse counterbalances it by also leaning forward. At the end of their career, lets say, their knees are shot. Idk just my opinion as I've seen so many huge knees by former big eq/hunter/jumpers as apposed to other horses because jumping is not natural for horses. But don't get me wrong, not dissing you guys, I LOVE your discipline, in fact I wish I could do it!!
@BeachHorses369 why would hunter/jumper/eq horses knees "go out" at 16? there's plenty of top horses that are older. for example, Molly Braswell rode El Campeon's Danish in this year's eq finals, who is 19 and i believe his knees are just fine. What about this video is "ugh"?
@BeachHorses369 I showed a full-time lesson pony in 3' jumpers when she was 25. I can assure you, H/J horses' knees don't go out at 16 unless they are badly treated. I have a friend who's Holsteiner mare still jumps 3'6" comfortably at age 20. It's all about how they are treated, especially early in their training. Yes, former racehorses knees go out earlier, but it's a function of their racing careers, not the jumping.
@coolperson1324 Not perfect, but this round, as every other round I've seen of this incredibly fine rider, is awfully good. You should also look at videos of Brianne Goutal riding in jumper classes because those performances show what a tactful, elegant and effective rider she is. Her riding is beautiful.
my friend put this into imovie and slowed it down a ton and made it big to see if she was cross cantering at that part, and she was. she got the change one stride before the jump.
@wyldhorseb This wasn't the flat phase so how do you know she wasn't sitting in the flat phase? And all riders have preferences and personally Brianne's is better. She stays off of Logan's back and out of his way so he jumps better.
@wyldhorseb Well you dont always have to sit the canter and essibaly when jumping you can do either or! it just depends on how the horse is moving that day!
@wyldhorseb brianne's personal preference is a light seat. My trainer tells me that eq judges prefer to see a nice vertical seat on the flat, but a light seat (as long as you dont loose your balance and make it worse for your horse instead of better) is always nice
for all the people saying stuff about her elbows...they just need to be quite and stop saying crap. i mean untill you are an eq judge... shut up. shes obvi one of the best riders out there and you guys are just jelous cuz she literly is the #1 jr rider.
i'm jealous of her, and i'm proud to admit because who doesn't wish that they could have a nice horse like that work for everything that they wish for ! win all four of the major equitation events, and move up to the grand prix. who wouldn't be jealous?! she's a great rider, no one should judge till they are at the level, and actually win! (:
This is flawless. Logan did swap in the last line... but everyone says she is hunched over and looks loose? Maybe she is 'loose' but you shouldn't be tight in eq. perfect eq ISNT shoulders back and don't move, eq is being at peace with your horse, and she was loose because she was sure of what she is doing. And when she leaned it was to open logan's stride. Sitting back and adding leg is driving. I'm sure she's a fine rider if George Morris pinned her first when he was judging her multiple times
did anyone notice that @hannibananiXO obviously has some eye problems..... she the best fuckn rider ever so shove that up your.... pipe and smoke it ;)
i can agree with u a little bit SC lucy. she is a little low and caves her sholders some witch looks defedest. but her rides are so smooth and her leg is so empecible and her inside turns are flawless that she gets away with it. in 2005 she really shaped up.
Plus, people who say she only won this because her "push button" horse is very wrong..
I dont know if you know, Equitation is judged by the persons presents and ride. So until you actually know things about Equitation dont say things! =]
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about!
How about you stop critizing other people...
And I dont know if you saw on TV yesterday but she actually showed at Spruce Meadows! and went clear as well. So until you win the Maclay and go clean at Spruce Meadows keep your VERY WRONG comments to yourself! =]
she is an awesome rider. very talented with a very unique and stylized way of riding. the way she is holding her body and her seat allows for a forward and impressive ride. with that being said she does make a very big mistake here. right before the third fence, as she is legging him to get the correct striding, she lets her horse slip very slightly left and he swaps his lead right before the jump, which is HUGE in both the hunters and the eq. because of that i dont think she should have won
honestly i dont understand how she did so well. there is only one thing that could have helped her and thats the 2038752935 dollar push button horse under her legs. shes not an equitation rider and to this day i still believe that. im not trying to be rude or harsh, but there are riders out there that have way better eq then her...
@kathrynmullen1 ok then do you know what equitation is? its not about looking pretty all the time. its about how the rider controls the horse and makes it look effortless. its originally a mix between jumpers and hunters. plus positions "evolve" every year so you can't compare brianne to all these other girls that have won finals cause everyone has a signature position.... and who said expensive horses are push button? my horse is worth plenty and he is for sure NOT push button!
@TheHorsegal71 yeah, i totally agree! Logan is NOT an easy horse - i ride at BH & used to watch her ride him at the barn. He's really a perfectionist & if you don't get your aids right, he gets really pissed off. That's partly why Chelsea had problems with him at first when she got him. trust me, just because these horses are expensive does NOT mean that they're easy push buttons. people who ride push button horses usually do not win.
@HighHorse07 uh lucky! and i know! my horse is NOT push button and we are 4th in the state standings! why else would chelsea have trouble. shes a good rider, just younger
@kathrynmullen1 that is total crap! my eq is in the 6 figures & he is NOT a push button horse. I ride at bh & know his if for sure he is NOT push button, he's a total perfectionist & very tempermental - if you do not ride perfectly & have perfect aids he is very difficult. brianne worked very hard with him to get it right, so did chelsea & lillie when they rode him.
first of all, brianne drops her upper body, shoulders and hands before the fence and her elbows...can you say chicken! PLUS the horse switched it's lead before the 3rd fence..that's a NONO in hunters AND eq! go look at eq from the 1970's she doesn't fit classic eq...GOD THOSE ELBOWS!!!!
@SClucy PLUS you shouldnt be talking smack, hell for all we know you dont even ride. Why dont you put up a video of you riding and we'll pick it apart.
@SClucy I agree with everything you said! I also hate her half-seat.. she's standing up way too tall in those stirrups and leaning forward too much before the jumps. I also hate her attitude.. she seems nice in Horse Power, but she's actually very cocky and whiny. My trainer rode with her once in a clinic and she did not enjoy her company.
@GracieGirl236 actually...she's not like that at all. she's totally down to earth, really nice & friendly and extremely talented. i was doing ponies at bh when she was doing juniors & she was like a big sister...so don't talk shit about stuff you dont know.
@SClucy There really is no use arguing with you as you seem to go to several videos and post comments that exploit your lack of knowledge. Apparently you don't know what you are talking about because every comment on every video is so wrong where could one even begin to explain the truth. You suck and have no right being in the hunter/jumper world with how little you know. A swap is not an automatic "lose the class". It just takes a couple points off. Anybody who shows knows that!
@TheHorsegal71 in an equitation class if the judge determines that the rail was the horses fault and not rider error then it does not count against the rider, if the horse was just lazy or sloppy. The rail counts against the rider if the rider placed the horse at a bad distance or was too quick with her body and caused the rail.
@eateetor i know, thast exactly my point, logan hit the rail, sorry i meant to type he. and she still got called back. its hard to get that igh without in immpeccable form if your horse knocks a rail.
are you KIDING zazou can RIDE...brianne can..sorta. but the horses are handed to her.. Srry I just HATE the look brianne has. Zazou has a much more refined look.
Brianne, you are an AMAZING EQUESTRIAN! I first saw you on The Ride to the Maclay TV Show... I predicted from the first show that you would WIN it... I was right! I was sooo amazed by your riding that I said that I would name my mare's first baby, Brianne if it was a filly or Logan if a colt, well Gia had a filly, and I have a Brianne, the next year I had a colt, so I have a Logan :) Keep up the amazing riding you do...you keep us all on point to strive for perfection! Rob Banks, Houston Tx
i was in the lead with an 86 at a hunter championship, coming away from the rail coming down quarter line and bent going toward a single oxer, i didn't keep my outside leg on enough and swapped :( nearly got the blue, ended up with second though....
I wish I could find Brianne's Maclay round, but in general she is amazing. If you watch any of her equitation rounds and compare it to, say, Zazou's Maclay round from this year, it's a shame that more riders didn't ride like Brianne. In my opinion, Zazou didn't deserve to win.
@Livelovemay I agree with you. While Zazou is an excellent rider nonetheless, I feel like Brianne's riding is just more fluid - and she doesn't do the twisting-in-the-air thing.
Wow Brianne Goutal is such an amazing rider. To be picky tho she jumps ahead a bit. but o well she is still amazin. her horse didn get the lead change in teh back so he swapped
no, she didnt miss a lead change anywhere, the judge can overlook the swap cuz its eq. based on the rider not the horse, if the horse just swapped to no mistake by the rider, then the judge can dismiss it,, but the judge would have to determine if the horse just swapped or if the rider pulled him
Yeah :) That swap could have cost her the round :( But swaps matter because if your horse isn't balanced he is going to swap, so if the horse swaps he obviously isn't balanced, which is bad
i know she won thats why i was surprised and the lead was not the horses fault she was long and logan was strung out. and i know what a counter canter is but it looked like she was cross cantering. if you pause at 1:48 you can see his front right leg leading and his back right leg behind, meaning she is cross cantering. she got it but it was late and noticeable. she has a lot of politics on her side. the judges choose to a certain degree what they see and what they "miss"
@TheHorsegal71 I disagree. Logan wasn't being lazy. It was a legitimate swap from him shifting off the ground. But it isn't a class killer because Brianne rode to the jumps so well and made all the off-set lines ride smooth showing her talent. The swap is so minor when the course asks challenging questions that she can answer so well. Plus her score is combined with that of the hunter phase so she could still win despite the swap.
@stupidblond428a this was not a political win. The swap isnt an automatic class killer, just a few points off. And Brianne answered all the hard questions that the course asked, as far as riding to the jumps. Maybe the other riders failed at that and the swap was the most minor problem the judges saw. This round is obviously fantastic. You can't deny that, even with the swap. Politics aside, she deserved to win. The fact that it looks easy, despite the off-set lines, shows how well she rode.
I have to agree with poniesRdaSHIT as well. It's an excellent course overall, but once you notice the lead swap right before the oxer, and then the cross cantering before the last fence, I kind of question how the judges could have overlooked that... they're not HUGE mistakes, but when it's equitation finals, it's enough to make a difference in the pinning.
But then again, I don't know how the other top riders did, they could have had more or bigger mistakes..
@poniesRdaSHIT i see what your talking about, i saw that after she jumped, in the corner she got the front part of the change, but not the back, and it was kinda sneeky because a couple strides after that, she jumped again, but it was still very noticable.
I actually don't think she was cross cantering. If you pause it with each stride then I think you can see the front and back legs in sync, but it is hard with the video. But I agree with the third jump
@poniesRdaSHIT the score from this round is combined with the score from the hunter round so even with the swap her score could have been higher that others. Swap isnt automatic loser, just a few points off. You say you know all about big eq. finals, but you don't even know that! Don't be so freaking arrogant.
wait hold up......a NINETY THREE IN THE HUNTER PHASE??!?!?!!?
iHeartHickstead 1 week ago
true but if you barley use the reins why do you need a pelhman?
and you still dont have any conection but know im off of that because i understand that even thought it doesnt matter whatt your horses you have a lot to worry about like if he is cantering on the counter lead to jump 7.... but why a pelham
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 I don't know. Ask the rider's trainer's why the horses go best in those bits
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a well i saw the eq finals on usef.org and everyone was in a pelham but 1 girl
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 I don't know what to tell you..I'm not the one that decides what bits the horses use.
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 hmm true
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 99% of riders use pelhams not because they need to, but because it's the style. most, if not all, of the big eq horses could easily go in a simple snaffle.
lkwhostalkinggx3 2 months ago
why do people make up such silly disciplines like eq? ya the way they LOOK is good but i think it should be about how you ride you horse! these girls have no connection with these horses what so ever and i dont even understand why they need pellams if they dont even touch there mouth there is like no point were she tightens her reins at all! soo weird
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 The basis of good riding is good equitation..most of the kids that show in big eq are the top junior riders in the world. Not to mention most of the TOP professionals won big equitation finals. The point of equitation is to look smooth, no shit they use pelhams so they don't have to yank on the reins. They have connection at all times, they're just such good riders that you can't even notice.
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a i ride in a loose ring snaffle & i don't yank on my reins..? i also have connection with my horse's mouth at all times..?
LAdriaanse 3 months ago
@LAdriaanse I'll tell you what-when you can jump a course of 3'6" with equitation like them and make it look effortless, with a loose ring snaffle on a warmblood, post a video of it and let me know. Do you realize you're comparing DRESSAGE (aka flatting...) to jumping a 3'6" course...? That's stupid. Yes dressage is hard when you get to the upper levels, but don't compare it to jumping. Bye.
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a i didn't say anything about brianne goutal's eq..? you're being stupid, basically. i'm not going to fight with you over youtube, especially because i don't know you & you don't know me, nor do you know what my case is. your comment said she rides in a pelham so she doesn't have to "yank" on her horse's mouth. no rider should ever have to yank on her horse's mouth, no matter the level. that's all i have to say to you, so "bye" (;
LAdriaanse 3 months ago
@LAdriaanse that's so cool. You should share that at a party sometime
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a no better come back? didn't think so (; nice talking to you
LAdriaanse 3 months ago
@LAdriaanse Lol
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 And, you basically contradicted yourself...lol..dressage is also judged on equitation
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a & no it isn't. read the test you get back from any dressage test.
LAdriaanse 3 months ago
@LAdriaanse I compete in dressage..and several judges make marks about my equitation.
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a i compete in dressage too. & it isn't specifically equitation. i've actually got first level test one in front of me.. yes, rider's position & seat is a collective mark, so i concur to the fact that some of it is equitation. with that being said, it isn't fully judged on a rider's equitation on a dressage test. any dressage rider would know that. (unless, of course, you're riding in a dressage seat equitation class.. which i have ridden in, in which case you'd be right.)
LAdriaanse 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a nope no really, its mainly bout the horse, we are actually real riders who can use our reins unlike most eq riders
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 Yeah you're sooo right. In a sport where the rider is judged, it's 90% based off the horse. And ZOMG you're so correct, eq riders have NO idea how to use reins..or what they are. In fact, the horses memorize the courses themselves so they can make the turns, since the riders have no idea how to use the reins. Btw, equtation horses (who show at 3'6") are probably worth the same if not more than a dressage horse at the highest level..awkward
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a OPPPS! im sorry the riders do have to memorize there course but and they only use there legs... most of all americain eq/hunter riders dont know how to even get a horse into a working frame with true connection and collection. and you think eq horses better than dressage horses? dressage may be on of the most difficult equine sport on the face of the earth! have you ever heard of a $33 million hunter/eq horse? i think not!
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 Their* and I guess you're not very well educated about the equitation world. Have you ever seen them school? Funny because when they do, they school in snaffles and their horses are in frame. Dressage is a hard disipline in a sense of the perfection you achieve, but you can't compare equitation and dressage..they're too different in so many ways. And 33 million was for a horse at the HIGHEST level of competition..eq horses have sold for 700+k and they only jump 3'6"..awkward
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a why are they never showed with a frame?! oviously if its judged on how you look, you can ride the horse the same way you do at home, and if she is at a final, would she be at the higest level of competition since she is at the eq finals?
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 If you watch the flat phase of equitation, their horses are in frame, but they aren't in frame during the jumping portion because it really isn't needed. I personally like my horse to be relaxed when I enter the ring. Not making sure he's in frame during the whole entire course, it just looks more natural. It's kind of hard to explain on here, but equitation isn't judged on just how you look, it's everything. Your style, how easy and effortless you make the course seem, (Cont)
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 (Cont) how you present yourself in the ring, etc. In my opinion, I don't view equitation finals as being at the top level, although it is the highest you can go in the equitation. Being at the the very top is competing in the prixs and/or olympic level (in my opinion).
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a i have seen plenty of flat eq classes before and rarely i see someone with proper connection eith the horses mouth
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 Well then I'll assume you haven't been to an equitation final to watch them flat...their horses are in frames and I witnessed it in person at Maclay Finals this year.
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a in a frame, but the horses are so tame and the riders have no connection
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 Sorry the horses are trained correctly...? They're not tamed, it's called proper training. You're obviously not understanding what I'm saying, so I give up. Dressage riders are the BEST, they all ride perfectly and are #1. They're better than any jumpers and dressage is WAY harder than jumping any jump at all, I assume that's what you want to hear.
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a no i would say grand prix level in both dressage and jumping are equaly the same but, some of these horses are so well trained that they can just automaticly put there head down for the eq. clases with such ease so the girls dont have connection, sure its hard work to look nice on the horse always perfecting your self how you look
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 What's wrong with a horse being well trained? And equitation is more than just looking nice..you have to find your distances and make the course look smooth WHILE having perfect equitation. I do dressage and I've done a 3rd level test before..I can honestly say jumping is harder than dressage (in my opinion). My scores were low-mid 60's though haha
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a i did not say there is anything worng with any trained horse, and you are totally correct about your distancess and the level of perfection. i am an eventer and i think personally perfecting how you and your horse and looking for your own distances away from the letters always preparing is a smidge harder than jumping. but when it comes to all the thinking about eq and all the thinking you do in dressage eq and dressage are totally even. but the dressage riders have better (con)
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@stupidblond428a Cont- connection with the horses mouth and are more capable of doing more things. and thats when i dont under stand why you need a pelham if there reins are soo lose and disconected
DressageGirly1 3 months ago
@DressageGirly1 Well dressage, the horses are required to be on the bit and you're required to have a connection. and for the eq horses, they just go in the bit that they go best in. and it's a snaffle..so it doesn't hurt them or anything. Plus the rider's hands are very soft, so in no way do the bits cause discomfort for the horses
stupidblond428a 3 months ago
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horseygal411 7 months ago
if you know what a musical kur is for dressage, you should definitely do one with that horse. you are beautiful together and you could easily win dressage on him even if he isn't a dressage horse. that song fits him perfectly. great job with the course too!
nyrangerxo98 7 months ago
LOOK AT THT BEAUTIFUL STRIDE!!!!!!!
122RIVER 8 months ago
Wish I could find a horse like this to show at the adult level. He is just a dream. But he is no were near me.
horserider1986 9 months ago
Those 2 were always the perfect together. Is he still in the showing?
horserider1986 9 months ago
@horserider1986 yup. Chelsea Moss owns him and she leases him out. I'm not sure who's showing him at the moment though.
lkwhostalkinggx3 9 months ago
i have to agree with some people on here. i have absolutely no right to criticize brianna goutal because i will never be able to ride like her. she's like an equitation god, but I don't think this is her best at all. I thinkshe could do better to sit down on her horse more, keep her hands straight up and down (no piano hands) and at a couple times her arms came way out and she needed to keep her elbows in a bit more. i think she really owned it at the maclay though. that was one of her best!! [:
xemilyx805 10 months ago 4
i think she knows exactly what she's doing. she has a great strategic plan that made her so successful in all these finals so i wouldn't start critiquing her much.
laha456 10 months ago
Best eq. rider.
mshuntjump 10 months ago
weewees in buttts
poptartz1777 11 months ago
she is a good rider! i hope to be as good as her one day
Equestriangal11 1 year ago
i have a jumper that is 21 and jumps 4 ft all the time, because she wants to
dollar151990 1 year ago
such a good rider Brianne is
SDFHunterJumper 1 year ago
I love your horse!
justrideponies 1 year ago
What's the point in leaning forward [before] the jumps? First, it looks awful. Second, if the horse stops or runs out then you're out the side door I'm afraid.. We're always taught over here to sit up, sit back, and sit quietly and it works.
JenBsja2010x 1 year ago
i loooove brianne goutal! i have her autograph(:
xoninerandalex 1 year ago
Super mooi gereden!
Het ziet er heel soepel en gecontroleerd uit.
Respect hoor! :)
Kim0Eva 1 year ago
i wish i could ride like that.
iWhinny 1 year ago
ugh. no offence to eq riders, as i want to be one, but ugh. you wonder why hunter/jumper/eq horses' knees go out at like 16.
BeachHorses369 1 year ago
@BeachHorses369 They're only showing at 3'6"? Their knees don't go out...these horses are treated like ROYALTY at home and are constantly cared for...Logan is now 17 or maybe older and he is still doing the big eq.
stupidblond428a 1 year ago 30
@stupidblond428a Not so much the landing as it is the leaning of the rider so the horse counterbalances it by also leaning forward. At the end of their career, lets say, their knees are shot. Idk just my opinion as I've seen so many huge knees by former big eq/hunter/jumpers as apposed to other horses because jumping is not natural for horses. But don't get me wrong, not dissing you guys, I LOVE your discipline, in fact I wish I could do it!!
BeachHorses369 1 year ago
i know right jumpers knees go out not hunter or eq
eman1148 1 year ago
@BeachHorses369 why would hunter/jumper/eq horses knees "go out" at 16? there's plenty of top horses that are older. for example, Molly Braswell rode El Campeon's Danish in this year's eq finals, who is 19 and i believe his knees are just fine. What about this video is "ugh"?
kadyhobbins 1 year ago
@BeachHorses369 they defiantly dont..
hayhunterjumper 1 year ago
@BeachHorses369 I showed a full-time lesson pony in 3' jumpers when she was 25. I can assure you, H/J horses' knees don't go out at 16 unless they are badly treated. I have a friend who's Holsteiner mare still jumps 3'6" comfortably at age 20. It's all about how they are treated, especially early in their training. Yes, former racehorses knees go out earlier, but it's a function of their racing careers, not the jumping.
hidenseeker424 1 year ago
@BeachHorses369 uhhh my mare is 21 and still jumping at 3'6 so yeh
horsejumper923 1 year ago
@BeachHorses369 SUUUUREEEE....so that explains why my 24 yo OTTB is still doing the 3' Eqs and A/A's with me in Zone 3?
rockfish1987 1 year ago
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massiekurxx4 1 year ago
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she clearly swaps out her lead in front of the jump around 00:48. not good
coolperson1324 1 year ago
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she clearly swaps out her lead in front of the jump around 00:48. not good
coolperson1324 1 year ago
She clearly swaps out in front of the jump at 00:48. not good
coolperson1324 1 year ago
@coolperson1324 Not perfect, but this round, as every other round I've seen of this incredibly fine rider, is awfully good. You should also look at videos of Brianne Goutal riding in jumper classes because those performances show what a tactful, elegant and effective rider she is. Her riding is beautiful.
hannjenn 10 months ago
my friend put this into imovie and slowed it down a ton and made it big to see if she was cross cantering at that part, and she was. she got the change one stride before the jump.
poniesRdaSHIT 1 year ago
Thats a nice horse how old is he?
Bananaz123abc 1 year ago
@Bananaz123abc i rhink hes like 13 now
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
how did she ever win a flat phase cantering like that? sit the canter. even to the jumps. lillie keenan did when she leased logan..
wyldhorseb 1 year ago
@wyldhorseb This wasn't the flat phase so how do you know she wasn't sitting in the flat phase? And all riders have preferences and personally Brianne's is better. She stays off of Logan's back and out of his way so he jumps better.
stupidblond428a 1 year ago 26
@wyldhorseb Well you dont always have to sit the canter and essibaly when jumping you can do either or! it just depends on how the horse is moving that day!
SCRIPTUNES 1 year ago
@SCRIPTUNES In the equitation, it is more correct to ride to the jumps at a sitting canter. Just personal preference, that's all :)
wyldhorseb 1 year ago
@wyldhorseb did you watch her in the flat phase at the 2005 maclay? she didnt MOVE!
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@wyldhorseb in the over fences you dont have to sit the canter...no body does..but in the flat everyone does...she sits to the canter in the flat.
hanburke 1 year ago
@wyldhorseb brianne's personal preference is a light seat. My trainer tells me that eq judges prefer to see a nice vertical seat on the flat, but a light seat (as long as you dont loose your balance and make it worse for your horse instead of better) is always nice
maclaydreamer87 1 year ago
@wyldhorseb this is the jumper phase of the WIHS-they expect a more forward ride, both in terms of implusion and body position.
rockfish1987 1 year ago
@wyldhorseb yes but lillie keenan wasnt the one to win all the finals. obviously the judges liked her style. who are you to judge her?
aa14x2 7 months ago
@Teresa451128 Logan.
stupidblond428a 1 year ago
for all the people saying stuff about her elbows...they just need to be quite and stop saying crap. i mean untill you are an eq judge... shut up. shes obvi one of the best riders out there and you guys are just jelous cuz she literly is the #1 jr rider.
alwaysinthesaddle 1 year ago
i'm jealous of her, and i'm proud to admit because who doesn't wish that they could have a nice horse like that work for everything that they wish for ! win all four of the major equitation events, and move up to the grand prix. who wouldn't be jealous?! she's a great rider, no one should judge till they are at the level, and actually win! (:
fezfrk92 1 year ago
@fezfrk92 i know, im jealsous tooo, but its true, people shud shut up unti they get to that level and are nationally known
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
This is flawless. Logan did swap in the last line... but everyone says she is hunched over and looks loose? Maybe she is 'loose' but you shouldn't be tight in eq. perfect eq ISNT shoulders back and don't move, eq is being at peace with your horse, and she was loose because she was sure of what she is doing. And when she leaned it was to open logan's stride. Sitting back and adding leg is driving. I'm sure she's a fine rider if George Morris pinned her first when he was judging her multiple times
CoverGirlxxx3 1 year ago
does anyone notice that her arms look like chicken wings and she shoves back into her seat over the jumps!
hannibananiXO 1 year ago
@hannibananiXO nope
stupidblond428a 1 year ago 4
@hannibananiXO Quit critiquing her. You can't ride as well.
UrbanGetSet 1 year ago
did anyone notice that @hannibananiXO obviously has some eye problems..... she the best fuckn rider ever so shove that up your.... pipe and smoke it ;)
apostlenkoda 1 year ago
@hannibananiXO OMG! i just found out that someone hacked my account and wrote this.. :/.. Sorry!
She did so well in this :)
hannibananiXO 1 year ago
@hannibananiXO nope....she sits beautiful
hanburke 1 year ago
i can agree with u a little bit SC lucy. she is a little low and caves her sholders some witch looks defedest. but her rides are so smooth and her leg is so empecible and her inside turns are flawless that she gets away with it. in 2005 she really shaped up.
asdflkjhaklsjfjkasdf 1 year ago
Plus, people who say she only won this because her "push button" horse is very wrong..
I dont know if you know, Equitation is judged by the persons presents and ride. So until you actually know things about Equitation dont say things! =]
BrittanyV92 1 year ago
At SClucy
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about!
How about you stop critizing other people...
And I dont know if you saw on TV yesterday but she actually showed at Spruce Meadows! and went clear as well. So until you win the Maclay and go clean at Spruce Meadows keep your VERY WRONG comments to yourself! =]
BrittanyV92 1 year ago
she is an awesome rider. very talented with a very unique and stylized way of riding. the way she is holding her body and her seat allows for a forward and impressive ride. with that being said she does make a very big mistake here. right before the third fence, as she is legging him to get the correct striding, she lets her horse slip very slightly left and he swaps his lead right before the jump, which is HUGE in both the hunters and the eq. because of that i dont think she should have won
xoHAPPYox 1 year ago
and for all of the brianne supporters, you guys rock. idk we all of u brianne haters keep smacking her down
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@SClucy ok, did u watch horsepower, road to the maclay on tv????? she is awesome. i bet u couldnt ride like that
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
She can ride!!! Has any one else been the first person to win all 4 eq finals!!!!! I LOVE HER AND HER HORSE!!!!! :):):)
crazy4horses100 1 year ago
please tell me she didn't win this...
r4ch3lstr8upG 1 year ago
what's with the majority of so many rude comments ???????? sound like nasty little girls ........what are your riding accomplishments ????
jeffreysf2326 1 year ago
honestly i dont understand how she did so well. there is only one thing that could have helped her and thats the 2038752935 dollar push button horse under her legs. shes not an equitation rider and to this day i still believe that. im not trying to be rude or harsh, but there are riders out there that have way better eq then her...
kathrynmullen1 1 year ago
@kathrynmullen1 ok then do you know what equitation is? its not about looking pretty all the time. its about how the rider controls the horse and makes it look effortless. its originally a mix between jumpers and hunters. plus positions "evolve" every year so you can't compare brianne to all these other girls that have won finals cause everyone has a signature position.... and who said expensive horses are push button? my horse is worth plenty and he is for sure NOT push button!
enfjoy7 1 year ago
@kathrynmullen1 i bet u couldnt beat her any day! and NO one has that kind of money. logan is SOOO not push button. have u seen him on bad days?
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@TheHorsegal71 yeah, i totally agree! Logan is NOT an easy horse - i ride at BH & used to watch her ride him at the barn. He's really a perfectionist & if you don't get your aids right, he gets really pissed off. That's partly why Chelsea had problems with him at first when she got him. trust me, just because these horses are expensive does NOT mean that they're easy push buttons. people who ride push button horses usually do not win.
HighHorse07 1 year ago
@HighHorse07 uh lucky! and i know! my horse is NOT push button and we are 4th in the state standings! why else would chelsea have trouble. shes a good rider, just younger
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@kathrynmullen1 that is total crap! my eq is in the 6 figures & he is NOT a push button horse. I ride at bh & know his if for sure he is NOT push button, he's a total perfectionist & very tempermental - if you do not ride perfectly & have perfect aids he is very difficult. brianne worked very hard with him to get it right, so did chelsea & lillie when they rode him.
HighHorse07 1 year ago
amazing. she just needs to lean up more she leans foward too much while half seating
HuNtErJuMpEr4LiFe14 1 year ago
obviously shes not a bad rider because she WON the maclay....
riderchick7 1 year ago
first of all, brianne drops her upper body, shoulders and hands before the fence and her elbows...can you say chicken! PLUS the horse switched it's lead before the 3rd fence..that's a NONO in hunters AND eq! go look at eq from the 1970's she doesn't fit classic eq...GOD THOSE ELBOWS!!!!
SClucy 1 year ago
@SClucy I can't say chicken..but I can say champion. Because she was the #1 junior rider....
stupidblond428a 1 year ago
@SClucy Gosh, you dont need to be so rude.
ReinaEquina 1 year ago
@SClucy PLUS you shouldnt be talking smack, hell for all we know you dont even ride. Why dont you put up a video of you riding and we'll pick it apart.
ReinaEquina 1 year ago
@ReinaEquina i know rite
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
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TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
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@ReinaEquina i know rite. SClucy i highly doubt that even if u do ride, u can ride as well as her
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@SClucy I agree with everything you said! I also hate her half-seat.. she's standing up way too tall in those stirrups and leaning forward too much before the jumps. I also hate her attitude.. she seems nice in Horse Power, but she's actually very cocky and whiny. My trainer rode with her once in a clinic and she did not enjoy her company.
GracieGirl236 1 year ago
@GracieGirl236 actually...she's not like that at all. she's totally down to earth, really nice & friendly and extremely talented. i was doing ponies at bh when she was doing juniors & she was like a big sister...so don't talk shit about stuff you dont know.
HighHorse07 1 year ago 2
@GracieGirl236 uh whhy dont u shut up about people u dont know!
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@SClucy There really is no use arguing with you as you seem to go to several videos and post comments that exploit your lack of knowledge. Apparently you don't know what you are talking about because every comment on every video is so wrong where could one even begin to explain the truth. You suck and have no right being in the hunter/jumper world with how little you know. A swap is not an automatic "lose the class". It just takes a couple points off. Anybody who shows knows that!
eateetor 1 year ago
@eateetor yeah and at the maclay, she whacked a rail, it fell, yet she went back to the 2nd round in 5TH!
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@TheHorsegal71 in an equitation class if the judge determines that the rail was the horses fault and not rider error then it does not count against the rider, if the horse was just lazy or sloppy. The rail counts against the rider if the rider placed the horse at a bad distance or was too quick with her body and caused the rail.
eateetor 1 year ago
@eateetor i know, thast exactly my point, logan hit the rail, sorry i meant to type he. and she still got called back. its hard to get that igh without in immpeccable form if your horse knocks a rail.
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@TheHorsegal71 yeah good call. I thought at first that you thought that she shouldn't get called back, but I gotcha now.
eateetor 1 year ago
@eateetor NO! brianne totally deserved to get called back. you could totally tell the rail was logans fault
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@SClucy once you win the Maclay's, thats when you can start critiqing Brianne.
k thanks
foreverHOUIE 1 year ago
@foreverHOUIE correction. once u win all four equitation finals, make it on to the USET and show a top jumper, then u can starting critiquing
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago 36
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foreverHOUIE 1 year ago
are you KIDING zazou can RIDE...brianne can..sorta. but the horses are handed to her.. Srry I just HATE the look brianne has. Zazou has a much more refined look.
SClucy 1 year ago
Brianne, you are an AMAZING EQUESTRIAN! I first saw you on The Ride to the Maclay TV Show... I predicted from the first show that you would WIN it... I was right! I was sooo amazed by your riding that I said that I would name my mare's first baby, Brianne if it was a filly or Logan if a colt, well Gia had a filly, and I have a Brianne, the next year I had a colt, so I have a Logan :) Keep up the amazing riding you do...you keep us all on point to strive for perfection! Rob Banks, Houston Tx
RobBanksShowHorses 1 year ago
there are other equitation videos before 2006: New England Eq. Finals
jumpeight 1 year ago
I loved going to WIHS finals! so much fun!
TheEQPro 1 year ago
when she takes him through the short option he has such a beautiful bend to him, it is SUCH a pleasure watching her ride him
eventer723 1 year ago
swaps suck
i was in the lead with an 86 at a hunter championship, coming away from the rail coming down quarter line and bent going toward a single oxer, i didn't keep my outside leg on enough and swapped :( nearly got the blue, ended up with second though....
thebluebot 1 year ago
I wish I could find Brianne's Maclay round, but in general she is amazing. If you watch any of her equitation rounds and compare it to, say, Zazou's Maclay round from this year, it's a shame that more riders didn't ride like Brianne. In my opinion, Zazou didn't deserve to win.
Livelovemay 2 years ago
@Livelovemay I wish I could too! :( There is like no equitation on Youtube from before 2006. Except for this haha
stupidblond428a 2 years ago
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@stupidblond428a there is other equitation before 2006: New England Eq. Finals:
jumpeight 1 year ago
@Livelovemay I agree with you. While Zazou is an excellent rider nonetheless, I feel like Brianne's riding is just more fluid - and she doesn't do the twisting-in-the-air thing.
Equestrified 1 year ago
@Livelovemay Search up Horse Power: Road to the Maclay Episode 6-6 here on youtube (-6 is part 6) Her round is there!
u2snumberonefan 1 year ago
@Livelovemay Look on Horse Power, episode 6
CloudyCanter 1 year ago
Well done.. great rhythm!
jokenag 2 years ago
Wow Brianne Goutal is such an amazing rider. To be picky tho she jumps ahead a bit. but o well she is still amazin. her horse didn get the lead change in teh back so he swapped
stupidburnette 2 years ago
That was just about flawless! what a great horse and rider team!
ShowJumper110 2 years ago
Yes, she was cross cantering!! She just didnt get the full lead change!! If she won thats amazing!!
ILoveHunterHorses 2 years ago
I agree with the lead.. but it was still a flawless round.. wish i could ride like that!
CoverGirlxxx3 2 years ago
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kelnino2k 2 years ago
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Wow ! What a great round !
lauraalovesyouu 2 years ago
she missed a lead change and had a lead swap.
theres no way she did well
poniesRdaSHIT 2 years ago
yea she won this
stupidblond428a 2 years ago
yes, she did win this.
i love logan, her horse is so fantastic.
MadCat74 2 years ago
no, she didnt miss a lead change anywhere, the judge can overlook the swap cuz its eq. based on the rider not the horse, if the horse just swapped to no mistake by the rider, then the judge can dismiss it,, but the judge would have to determine if the horse just swapped or if the rider pulled him
ponyriderzpnn 2 years ago
p.s. lead swaps do matter. do u even do the big equitation? u obviously dont know how it works.
poniesRdaSHIT 2 years ago
i agree with poniesRdaSHIT.
she swapped off to the oxer in the two stride.
BatmanxBrady 2 years ago
Yeah :) That swap could have cost her the round :( But swaps matter because if your horse isn't balanced he is going to swap, so if the horse swaps he obviously isn't balanced, which is bad
iluvsimon8 2 years ago
She did win. The leads were the horse's fault, therefore not counted. And the missed lead change... that's called countercanter.
ponyJackson 2 years ago
i know she won thats why i was surprised and the lead was not the horses fault she was long and logan was strung out. and i know what a counter canter is but it looked like she was cross cantering. if you pause at 1:48 you can see his front right leg leading and his back right leg behind, meaning she is cross cantering. she got it but it was late and noticeable. she has a lot of politics on her side. the judges choose to a certain degree what they see and what they "miss"
poniesRdaSHIT 2 years ago 6
i think its so annoying how judges do that...why cant they just make it so the best round wins instead of putting all the bullshit in
stupidblond428a 2 years ago 4
@stupidblond428a
I completely agree with you
RRhapsodylover 2 years ago
@stupidblond428a because logan was being lazy. it wasnt briannes fault
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@TheHorsegal71 I disagree. Logan wasn't being lazy. It was a legitimate swap from him shifting off the ground. But it isn't a class killer because Brianne rode to the jumps so well and made all the off-set lines ride smooth showing her talent. The swap is so minor when the course asks challenging questions that she can answer so well. Plus her score is combined with that of the hunter phase so she could still win despite the swap.
eateetor 1 year ago
@eateetor true i didnt see the others
TheHorsegal71 1 year ago
@stupidblond428a this was not a political win. The swap isnt an automatic class killer, just a few points off. And Brianne answered all the hard questions that the course asked, as far as riding to the jumps. Maybe the other riders failed at that and the swap was the most minor problem the judges saw. This round is obviously fantastic. You can't deny that, even with the swap. Politics aside, she deserved to win. The fact that it looks easy, despite the off-set lines, shows how well she rode.
eateetor 1 year ago
I agree. I think Brianne is an awesome rider, but just because she is very well known doesn't mean she sould get any more breaks than an unknown
whittyb3 2 years ago
agreed
CoverGirlxxx3 2 years ago
I have to agree with poniesRdaSHIT as well. It's an excellent course overall, but once you notice the lead swap right before the oxer, and then the cross cantering before the last fence, I kind of question how the judges could have overlooked that... they're not HUGE mistakes, but when it's equitation finals, it's enough to make a difference in the pinning.
But then again, I don't know how the other top riders did, they could have had more or bigger mistakes..
Ca2roline 2 years ago
@poniesRdaSHIT i see what your talking about, i saw that after she jumped, in the corner she got the front part of the change, but not the back, and it was kinda sneeky because a couple strides after that, she jumped again, but it was still very noticable.
nikkipro18 1 year ago
@poniesRdaSHIT but again, it is equitation, but still she needs to know how to get her leads if she is in washington.
nikkipro18 1 year ago
I actually don't think she was cross cantering. If you pause it with each stride then I think you can see the front and back legs in sync, but it is hard with the video. But I agree with the third jump
WelshCorgi321 1 year ago
@poniesRdaSHIT
yeah, he cross fired to that whole jump actually.
He swapped in front, but then got lazy about him back end.
But hey, it didn't mess there jump up! (;
EquitationChampion 1 year ago
@poniesRdaSHIT the score from this round is combined with the score from the hunter round so even with the swap her score could have been higher that others. Swap isnt automatic loser, just a few points off. You say you know all about big eq. finals, but you don't even know that! Don't be so freaking arrogant.
eateetor 1 year ago