is it just me or does it sound like Sayuri is calling Mameha a different name or something? maybe its just me but it sometimes it sounds like she's calling her something else
@TRUSTFURY In the book it tells a lot about Mameha taking Chiyo (Sayuri) to many different meetings for only about 5-10 minutes because the cost was very expensive for them to stay too long but in the movie it doesn't show any of that, the scenes they show don't require Mameha to wear any make up. So yeah, it sucks =/ I bet she looks very pretty with make up on.
@TheMidnightx12 well first u start as a maiko a apprentice geisha and u need to go to school okasan of the okiya pays for ur scolar ship and u repay her for 5 years whenb u become a true geisha thats all i know so far
@spygal124 And in order to finish repaying debts, typically geisha try and auction off their virginity to obtain whats called a dana. A dana pays for your housing, meetings/parties, and things such as repairs for shamisens and kimonos/yukatas. Plus, danas also pay for seeing the geishas like regular customers do, the only difference is that they can get " extra " stuff because they are the danas of the geishas and basically pay for everything for them.
From a modern perspective, being a geisha is not a honorable profession, but back then women had few options on how to make a life. They couldn't get a job; they could only hope to marry a good man. To be a geisha was to have a sort of freedom a regular housewife couldn't have, and it was better than being a prostitute. You had nice clothes, food, shelter, constant company... considering the time, it wasn't that bad of a life.
@RobzGrl they put wax so the hair will stay in place and when geisha's sleep they cant mess up their hair cause they dont get their hair done everyday so she was teaching her to sleep so she doesnt mess up their hair and they put rice cause it will stick to their hair they it is very painful to have wax and stuff put in your hair
It's really too bad that this movie is so grossly inaccurate about the geisha culture, just another glamorous flick of Hollywood. At least it's entertaining.
@shaguftayasmin1 Geisha do still exist, but I think only in a few certain places now. Can't quite remember where, but they still work and entertain modern businessmen in restaurants and the like.
"Geisha are not courtesans, and we're not wives. We sell our skills, not our bodies. We create another secret world, a place only of beauty. The very word Geisha means artist, and to be a Geisha is to be judged as a moving work of art."
@babytooty04 Its better than being a prostitute and selling sex everyday, don't you think? Poor Satsu was put into that life which is why she ran away without waiting for Chiyo.
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I definitely wouldn't. However elegant or sophisticated they are, they are practically slaves to the geisha houses because they spend their entire youths trying to repay their debt (the cost to house, feed, and train the geisha). Most geishas weren't as successful as Chiyo/Sayuri. Geisha is also just a fancy term for prostitution to the extremely wealthy.
@MikaylaPearl girls who tie their obis in the front instead of the back are prostitutes. Satsu, Chiyo's sister, tied her obi in the front and didn't work at an okiya, but instead worked at a jorou-ya called Tatsuyo in the Miyagawa-cho district. (South of Gion)
In the book, Mameha mentions that Hatsumomo hated Chiyo/Sayuri she was beautiful as Hatsuoki(Mameha's friend and Hatsumomo's first rival). She also mentions that despite Hatsumomo's beauty and popularity, she was a failure. She had made the mistake in angering the mistress of her prime tea house, Mizuki, and therefore she could never have a patron.
oh... so could you tell me umm this... I didn't really get the part when ummm the "mother" got something from the kimono of hatsumomo when chiyo was still small and when hatsumomo kissed the koichi guy ? and gave money to chiyo to show that chiyo stole something
Mother was searching Hatsumomo because of Chiyo's claims about her having sex with Koichi. She found some semen in her neither regions and slapped her across the face.
they put the rice around the stool to teach the gesha to balance her head perfectly. to get rice in your hair meant you needed to get your hair done again. They got their hair done only so often and they put hot wax in to keep in place. Hot wax is very painful
hehe luv the part where the boy crashed into the chicken cart! lol XDD though i thought it was suppose to be him and the tray and falling off the curb :S hmm nvm..
hot wax. its 2 keep their hair absulutly PERFECT (thats y she has 2 sleep with her haid like that, to maintain her hair, if she gets rice in it, she has 2 go thru it ALL again) i think its mentioned in some of the older coments, thats how i know lol.x
Only Apprentice Geisha have to wear the white makeup - they also wear the more spectacular kimono with their obis tied high up on their shoulder blades, red ribbons and collars. More senior Geisha wear plainer [but more elegent] kimono with the obi tied further down in a different kind of knot, a white collar after their mizuage and they wear their hair in different styles and they wear western-style makeup. There're a lot of differences between Apprentice and Fully fledged Geisha.
i don't get it why doesnt Mameha wear geisha makeup shes supposed to be the best geisha but doesnt wear the makeup, also she is supposed to be like 2 or 3 years younger than hatsumomo but she look 4 or 5 years older in the movie
I don't fully understand, why Mameha said that Hatsumomo could not be in charge of the Okiya? Wouldn't it have only affected the people living there instead of everyone?
This was because if Hatsumomo was very bossy, drunk and rude. If Mother adopted her right away, she knew what kind of daughter, she'd turn out to be. The kind of daughter, who'd drive Mother out of Gion forever. she'd sell most of the Nitta Okiya's collection of kimonos and retire.
not at all, you idiot. sry, but thats completely wrong! Geisha go to scchool and learn the art of so many things! shamisen, dancing, singing....what they do is art. they're so beautiful. what they do takes time and effort. the whole walking, it's not lke they pull something on just to take it off again.
in modern times geishas still exist.. they have it in canada...but it's concealed.. the place is very ordinary outside but inside there are them performing and men can choose and buy them.. i knew of this because of a friend who has been there.. They were brought up to please men. He had the geisha for four hours.
Yes...Vey expensive..You pay for their skills.. You can give them house, money, jewelries.. They are trained to entertain...Really sad because they do not really have freedom.. But their happiness is to entertain.. ",)
Well, they are very beautiful and the skills that they have are like "proffessional skills" And of course they have to entertain men because thats a geisha all about, to entertain men.
but are there Maiko's (u know probably what a Maiko is)too? or only "real" geishas?
Maiko's are apprentice geisha, just like in the movie. They have another geisha (their 'big sister') help to train and debut them to society, kind of like a debutante in old europe, but without looking for a husband, lol. When they were ready to become full geisha they'd have a tea ceremony & change their name to something similar to their big sister, Pumpkin was Hatsumomo's maiko, her geisha name was Hatsumiyo. Mameha chose a different one for Chiyo in the book though, I don't remember why.
It is based on a book and the book is fiction but it is based on many geishas' stories of their experiences as a geisha though they were at risk to tell the author, Arthur Brown, about them since being a geisha like being in a secret society.
I just now got done reading the book for the first time; I believe it's made out of "Nightingale droppings", so pretty much, bird caca hah. It's still very elegant looking on their skin, either way :]
I saw the movie first and then read the book, which I prefer because when I read the book I was able to visualize things better. After I read the book I watched the movie again so I really understood the story.
me too. I am still reading the book, and strted watching the movie and so many things they screwed up and left out. Mameha and hatsumom would never wear their hair down as they did. it would take way too long to out up, and they wouldn't be able to do it. ahhhhhh! so many things. I could've done a better job.
it must be hard for chinese to play the roll of a japanese geisha, i mean most chinese dont like this movie for that reason, bad history between the 2 countries, great movie but the book way better though.
During those times, i believe, is when make-up was filled with lead that geishas actually got skin cancer, premature wrinkles and actually died from it.
lol.. as a maiko, you keep your hair completely up because: a)it clearly displays the "red collar", which tells passerby that you are an apprentice geisha.. and b)it's custom. as you probably noticed, Mameha and Hatsumomo both had their hair down in a few places; even while going to teahouses. when you become full geisha, you somewhat get a looser leash, if you want to call it that. and with this loose leash, you can bring out your own personality, if somewhat secretly..
Hmmm. Chiyo's hairstyle when she's told that she's ready doesn't look geisha at all, not even maiko-like. She looks more like Disney's Mulan when went to the matchmaker...
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they are worse of the whores,cause feeding, even in beautiful 'art',low sadistic feelings of men,who erect on their own 'misercordatic',humanistic feelings without evenkilling
STEEEVEEEEE!!!!
thatsreallynotcool 3 days ago
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thatsreallynotcool 3 days ago
Damn, and I thought heals looked hard to walk in...
1Animechic1 1 week ago
they are so beautiful, but they suffer a great deal in their lives =/
MissProppa09 4 weeks ago
this part is best.. i liked the training
tHAtsMYnAMe53 2 months ago
is it just me or does it sound like Sayuri is calling Mameha a different name or something? maybe its just me but it sometimes it sounds like she's calling her something else
5196candygirl 6 months ago
@5196candygirl I think Sayuri is calling Onee-san there, which means younger sister or yea something like that. Not sure though.
christemuki2 4 months ago
Sigh.. Makes me wish I was born Japanese and as a Geisha:) (well for the most part anyways) 00:12 Haha!
HelloDuckkY 7 months ago
6:56 Steve Terada from Quest crew !!! =D
jimmysiliu 8 months ago
I pictured mameha to be even more beautiful than hatsumomo in the novel but in this movie she looks less than what I expected.
neggixD 11 months ago
6:35
MY FAVORITE PART!
50meli50 1 year ago
zhang ziyi is a chinese actress but her role is a japanese woman who trying to be the best entertainer..............interesting movie........
lovergurl824 1 year ago
i didnt see mameha wear the geisha makeup at all in this movie...
TRUSTFURY 1 year ago
@TRUSTFURY In the book it tells a lot about Mameha taking Chiyo (Sayuri) to many different meetings for only about 5-10 minutes because the cost was very expensive for them to stay too long but in the movie it doesn't show any of that, the scenes they show don't require Mameha to wear any make up. So yeah, it sucks =/ I bet she looks very pretty with make up on.
Kittycat0737 8 months ago
Beauty is pain girl:/
MoonDust22951 1 year ago
@TheMidnightx12 well first u start as a maiko a apprentice geisha and u need to go to school okasan of the okiya pays for ur scolar ship and u repay her for 5 years whenb u become a true geisha thats all i know so far
spygal124 1 year ago
@spygal124 And in order to finish repaying debts, typically geisha try and auction off their virginity to obtain whats called a dana. A dana pays for your housing, meetings/parties, and things such as repairs for shamisens and kimonos/yukatas. Plus, danas also pay for seeing the geishas like regular customers do, the only difference is that they can get " extra " stuff because they are the danas of the geishas and basically pay for everything for them.
Kittycat0737 8 months ago
From a modern perspective, being a geisha is not a honorable profession, but back then women had few options on how to make a life. They couldn't get a job; they could only hope to marry a good man. To be a geisha was to have a sort of freedom a regular housewife couldn't have, and it was better than being a prostitute. You had nice clothes, food, shelter, constant company... considering the time, it wasn't that bad of a life.
warmandsunnydays 1 year ago
jap high heels worse than the american xD
TheFunNoob 1 year ago 3
What are they doing to her hair?
RobzGrl 1 year ago
@RobzGrl They were combing boiling hot wax in it so it would stay in place. Imagine hot boiling wax, now imagine it in your hair 0.O
temarifanatic03 1 year ago 2
@temarifanatic03 ohhhh thanks for telling me I always wondered and why it hurt? That explains it lol
RobzGrl 1 year ago
@RobzGrl they put wax so the hair will stay in place and when geisha's sleep they cant mess up their hair cause they dont get their hair done everyday so she was teaching her to sleep so she doesnt mess up their hair and they put rice cause it will stick to their hair they it is very painful to have wax and stuff put in your hair
melaina16 1 year ago
Dear god. I thought the other shoes were bad.
OddSocksJenni 1 year ago 5
It's really too bad that this movie is so grossly inaccurate about the geisha culture, just another glamorous flick of Hollywood. At least it's entertaining.
TangibleNought 1 year ago
i wanna be a geisha now *sigh*
TheLexiboo101 1 year ago 3
not like a horse ahahahahaha really Sayuri is so pretty =)
siep4 2 years ago
mameha is very kind :D
BubbleTeasSyko 2 years ago
whhhyyyy is Michelle Yeoh so freakin' pretty?!!! <3
Ieraux 2 years ago
i think geisha no more exist today in japan ... right ... gisha has just vanished..... but geisha is kind of given repect loden times before the war
shaguftayasmin1 2 years ago
@shaguftayasmin1 Geisha do still exist, but I think only in a few certain places now. Can't quite remember where, but they still work and entertain modern businessmen in restaurants and the like.
TangibleNought 1 year ago
Mameha is so pretyy
PortAngelesWAFriendz 2 years ago
i used to tell my friends that in a strange way i wanted to be a geisha.
they always gave me this funny look & laughed.
:P
diorknob 2 years ago
"Geisha are not courtesans, and we're not wives. We sell our skills, not our bodies. We create another secret world, a place only of beauty. The very word Geisha means artist, and to be a Geisha is to be judged as a moving work of art."
SaarduLady 2 years ago 105
@SaarduLady At the end of the day they still fuckin'em for money....
She STILL had to give her virginity to some old perverted doctor and not the man she loved. The chairman.
babytooty04 1 year ago
@babytooty04 yes but she had to to repay her dept and she listened to mameha because shes her big sister
spygal124 1 year ago
@babytooty04 Its better than being a prostitute and selling sex everyday, don't you think? Poor Satsu was put into that life which is why she ran away without waiting for Chiyo.
Kittycat0737 8 months ago
@SaarduLady like it.. ^_^
nelle2189 1 month ago
@SaarduLady Wiser words have never been spoken.
1Animechic1 6 days ago
They look so ellegant and so sufisticated i want to be a Geisha now *sighs*
paris06 2 years ago 6
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I definitely wouldn't. However elegant or sophisticated they are, they are practically slaves to the geisha houses because they spend their entire youths trying to repay their debt (the cost to house, feed, and train the geisha). Most geishas weren't as successful as Chiyo/Sayuri. Geisha is also just a fancy term for prostitution to the extremely wealthy.
jip4eva 2 years ago
I just realized I sound so strict and worked up over my reply. Lol. Sorry. :)
jip4eva 2 years ago 2
least sexy high heels ever ^_^
08miccor 2 years ago
I always wonder how they manage to balance themselves in those bamboo sandles with high-heeled wedges... it's fascinating!
edenstrauss2008 2 years ago
Michelle Yeoh is STUNNING. So graceful!
Prncssmn7 2 years ago 5
i love the music, the instrument.
thandieu222001 2 years ago
6：57 lol
dolochan 2 years ago
what do the lines on the nape signify?
i forgot
all i remember is that they're different class's or something like that.
emmanuellovesanime 2 years ago
sayuri looks really pretty with her hair out.
bledarhater23 2 years ago
yeah the shoes are crazy
NeverJustGirl 2 years ago
this shoes she wears, they're sooo high XD
LadyGaga254 2 years ago
OOoh so that's that a geisha means! Artist! Omigod for the longest time I thought it meant...you know, prostitute. I should slap myself haha
MikaylaPearl 2 years ago 48
yeah this movie and book made many people realise Geishas aren't sluts.
deathraiser91 2 years ago
@MikaylaPearl girls who tie their obis in the front instead of the back are prostitutes. Satsu, Chiyo's sister, tied her obi in the front and didn't work at an okiya, but instead worked at a jorou-ya called Tatsuyo in the Miyagawa-cho district. (South of Gion)
Kittycat0737 8 months ago
@MikaylaPearl me too, ill slap myself too
LadyOfBroadway333 4 months ago
i didnt even know what a geisha was until this movie
Wisegirl892 2 years ago
lol, 3:47
mp3dog101 2 years ago
i like this part
cornelingg 2 years ago
In the book, Mameha mentions that Hatsumomo hated Chiyo/Sayuri she was beautiful as Hatsuoki(Mameha's friend and Hatsumomo's first rival). She also mentions that despite Hatsumomo's beauty and popularity, she was a failure. She had made the mistake in angering the mistress of her prime tea house, Mizuki, and therefore she could never have a patron.
ladyfire44 2 years ago
Thank-you for the Post. now I will read the book.
Jackassbobby112 2 years ago
I have a question...
is the bigsister of chiyo the real sister who came with her to that place?
chinotan0628 2 years ago
Chiyo's real sister just ran away, this "big sister" is Mameha, one of the top geisha in Kyoto at the time.
DianaCasanova 2 years ago
oh... so could you tell me umm this... I didn't really get the part when ummm the "mother" got something from the kimono of hatsumomo when chiyo was still small and when hatsumomo kissed the koichi guy ? and gave money to chiyo to show that chiyo stole something
chinotan0628 2 years ago
Mother was searching Hatsumomo because of Chiyo's claims about her having sex with Koichi. She found some semen in her neither regions and slapped her across the face.
ladyfire44 2 years ago
what's semen?
Sperm?
or Love juice?
chinotan0628 2 years ago
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ladyfire44 2 years ago
sorry I'm not sure what semen was :)
chinotan0628 2 years ago
I love Michell Yeoh!! She's so graceful and wise.
luv4georgeharrison 2 years ago
Was that pumpkin who dropped the fan?
Sabikagei 2 years ago
Yes, because you have to remember that Pumpkin was slow and clumsy in the book
ladyfire44 2 years ago
yes that was pumpkin who dropped the fan
maiakemi2 2 years ago
mameha is too old to paint her face
oana1306 3 years ago
How come Mameha never has to have her face painted?
hadassah179 3 years ago
as you can see, mameha is a full term geisha, even when you are a geisha you still have to paint your face, its custom
maiakemi2 2 years ago
WHAT DID HER NAME MEAN?
ifneedbe123 3 years ago
who, sayuri's? in the book it says sa=together, yu=japanese letter that balances out her personality, and ri=understanding
chiaxroscuro 2 years ago
I want those sandals that chiyo had to wear!
koreanpunkgrRETURNS 3 years ago 2
3:40 those shoes o.o and using hot wax to keep hair straight..wow
It must be hard to learn how to sleep without getting rice in the hair :o
AmayaElika 3 years ago 4
they put the rice around the stool to teach the gesha to balance her head perfectly. to get rice in your hair meant you needed to get your hair done again. They got their hair done only so often and they put hot wax in to keep in place. Hot wax is very painful
maiakemi2 2 years ago
Who is that gorgeous older woman that is teaching her?
uselessguitarplayer1 3 years ago 3
Mameha, played by Michelle Yeoh
caohanlu 3 years ago
at 1:30 - 2:00 who is "misses nitta"? wow, i really need to read the book... lol
Gvanillavodka 3 years ago
She's "Mother", the woman who runs the Okiya.
DanaVMBVSDDM 3 years ago
I can't believe geishas could even stand let alone walk in those sandals, i'd end end falling on my face if i wore those.
animefan961 3 years ago 7
hehe luv the part where the boy crashed into the chicken cart! lol XDD though i thought it was suppose to be him and the tray and falling off the curb :S hmm nvm..
ghostblacklover 3 years ago 2
yeah but more or less they captured the hillarity of it lol
Endrawnia 3 years ago
haha true true !! X) guess they did change it to become hilarious
ghostblacklover 3 years ago
What are they doing with her hair at 5:24??
ArmyOfDemons 3 years ago 2
hot wax. its 2 keep their hair absulutly PERFECT (thats y she has 2 sleep with her haid like that, to maintain her hair, if she gets rice in it, she has 2 go thru it ALL again) i think its mentioned in some of the older coments, thats how i know lol.x
KazWhittle 3 years ago 3
lol! at 6:21 i thought mameha was wearing an ABERCROMBIE kimono!
aliceroxyeh101 3 years ago
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Gvanillavodka 3 years ago
HAHAHA!!!!
Maybe they had Abercrombie back then...
Gaaraissomineforever 3 years ago
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ladyfire44 3 years ago
lol! bike boy hits a chicken cart 4 a girl XDDDDD
UsagiLoveX3 3 years ago
this film is rellie mysterious! i like it!
btcheckers 3 years ago
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kneel down biatch, KNEEL DOWN :@ (A)
wazupninja 3 years ago
The flute and the violins are amazing in john williams memoirs of a geisha music score.
blueberrycreamicetea 3 years ago 4
Nevermind, I stand corrected at 4:07
Principalies 3 years ago
This is just equivilant to a courtasan. And the scene is like in Dangerous Beauty.
Principalies 3 years ago
Only Apprentice Geisha have to wear the white makeup - they also wear the more spectacular kimono with their obis tied high up on their shoulder blades, red ribbons and collars. More senior Geisha wear plainer [but more elegent] kimono with the obi tied further down in a different kind of knot, a white collar after their mizuage and they wear their hair in different styles and they wear western-style makeup. There're a lot of differences between Apprentice and Fully fledged Geisha.
JaneyS1993 3 years ago
i don't get it why doesnt Mameha wear geisha makeup shes supposed to be the best geisha but doesnt wear the makeup, also she is supposed to be like 2 or 3 years younger than hatsumomo but she look 4 or 5 years older in the movie
lakota246 3 years ago
I love their Kimonos. They're beautiful. :D
Serenity113 3 years ago 3
I personaly think that chiyo looks much prettier without make up on. you know, natural
you can see her FANTASTIC eyes better that way
temarifanatic03 3 years ago 8
Michelle Yeoh hs got a nice english.
kodoku22 3 years ago
5:00 onwards the best part!
mnecmonic 3 years ago
my favorite part of the whole movie, when Chiyo becomes a Maiko (and lears all the things like the dance with the fans) and gets her new name :D
contortionist104 3 years ago
And we complain about high heels and how heavy our makeup feels... lol
Nicky200315 3 years ago 3
I don't fully understand, why Mameha said that Hatsumomo could not be in charge of the Okiya? Wouldn't it have only affected the people living there instead of everyone?
xFoolyCoolyx 3 years ago
This was because if Hatsumomo was very bossy, drunk and rude. If Mother adopted her right away, she knew what kind of daughter, she'd turn out to be. The kind of daughter, who'd drive Mother out of Gion forever. she'd sell most of the Nitta Okiya's collection of kimonos and retire.
ladyfire44 2 years ago
It just confused when Mameha said, "...then we would 'all' be at the tiger's mercy" it gave the impression that it would ruin all of the town
xFoolyCoolyx 2 years ago
Hatsumomo would cause trouble in spreading lies and rumors about Sayuri if she and Mameha doesn't find a way to counter her soon.
ladyfire44 2 years ago
What The Hell Is With Those Shoes? Im Sorry Ok But Wtf? :\
k47the2 3 years ago
It really is sad because she knew that she was stealing the inheritance from pumpkin.
babytooty04 3 years ago
Auntie and Mother are the best lol
xFoolyCoolyx 3 years ago
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So geishas arnt really whores, there more like strippers, but in a good way
anonomouschicken 3 years ago
geishas have style, strippers dont know even the basic to impress people, and men.
calmaline 3 years ago 2
not at all, you idiot. sry, but thats completely wrong! Geisha go to scchool and learn the art of so many things! shamisen, dancing, singing....what they do is art. they're so beautiful. what they do takes time and effort. the whole walking, it's not lke they pull something on just to take it off again.
6mali 3 years ago
Is memories of a geisha real story??
Emopink13 3 years ago
yes i think it is a real story, there are Geisha´s in Japan even now in this time.
Maybe the complete movie isn´t a real story but maybe some parts of it
contortionist104 3 years ago
there is a geishas' house in canada.. you go there and buy a girl for 500 or 1000 bucks
childplacid 3 years ago
There are geisha's houses in Canada? i thought that there are only geisha houses in Japan?
contortionist104 3 years ago
in modern times geishas still exist.. they have it in canada...but it's concealed.. the place is very ordinary outside but inside there are them performing and men can choose and buy them.. i knew of this because of a friend who has been there.. They were brought up to please men. He had the geisha for four hours.
childplacid 3 years ago
In Japan they do exist, i did know that but not in Canada.
Must be good to have seen what geisha's do in real life now.
But the geisha's are very expensive u told me.
but ur friend had to pay that mutch for a geisha too? or mutch less money?
contortionist104 3 years ago
Yes...Vey expensive..You pay for their skills.. You can give them house, money, jewelries.. They are trained to entertain...Really sad because they do not really have freedom.. But their happiness is to entertain.. ",)
childplacid 3 years ago 3
Well, they are very beautiful and the skills that they have are like "proffessional skills" And of course they have to entertain men because thats a geisha all about, to entertain men.
but are there Maiko's (u know probably what a Maiko is)too? or only "real" geishas?
contortionist104 3 years ago
Maiko's are apprentice geisha, just like in the movie. They have another geisha (their 'big sister') help to train and debut them to society, kind of like a debutante in old europe, but without looking for a husband, lol. When they were ready to become full geisha they'd have a tea ceremony & change their name to something similar to their big sister, Pumpkin was Hatsumomo's maiko, her geisha name was Hatsumiyo. Mameha chose a different one for Chiyo in the book though, I don't remember why.
Alquavani 3 years ago 6
Thank you for explaining :)
contortionist104 3 years ago 2
well said alquavani!
childplacid 3 years ago 2
It was because the names that are similar to Mameha are bad luck for Chiyo's water personality. Something like that.
sunnyyshadow 3 years ago 3
it was because she went to like a fortune teller and sayuri was better or something
lakota246 3 years ago
Mameha's fortune teller in the book knew that any name with Mame would be too inauspicious for Chiyo and that why she chose Sayuri
ladyfire44 3 years ago 2
It is based on a book and the book is fiction but it is based on many geishas' stories of their experiences as a geisha though they were at risk to tell the author, Arthur Brown, about them since being a geisha like being in a secret society.
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
OOOH!Its terrible to a geisha!I would kill myself if I was givven a chance!
Emopink13 3 years ago
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my friend old me that white stuff they put in there face iz bird caca!
lol
but i still love this movie=]
kaulana94 3 years ago
I just now got done reading the book for the first time; I believe it's made out of "Nightingale droppings", so pretty much, bird caca hah. It's still very elegant looking on their skin, either way :]
BreccaDeeAnn 3 years ago
it is. nightingale, actually. they may use different stuff today.
6mali 3 years ago
omg i was only saying lol
kaulana94 3 years ago
I saw the movie first and then read the book, which I prefer because when I read the book I was able to visualize things better. After I read the book I watched the movie again so I really understood the story.
Chiswick2 3 years ago 3
I read the book before the movie and it ruined the movie for me since I kept seeing that so much had been left out.
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
me too. I am still reading the book, and strted watching the movie and so many things they screwed up and left out. Mameha and hatsumom would never wear their hair down as they did. it would take way too long to out up, and they wouldn't be able to do it. ahhhhhh! so many things. I could've done a better job.
6mali 3 years ago
Same here, it's just stupid
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
do research on japan during my free time. (i know nerdy) this is all wrong.
6mali 3 years ago
It's not nerdy, I do research all the time :D
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
it is, b/c i have hardly any free time. lol. too bad.
6mali 3 years ago
I'm at university so my life pretty much revolves around it right now lo
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
wat do u go 2 school 4?
6mali 3 years ago
Biomedical Science but I still hold an interest in languages and history.
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
oooooh. wow. thats kool.
6mali 3 years ago
Lol everyone says that for some reason xD
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
'cause it's kool. thats why. plus maybe they have no idea wat it is.
6mali 3 years ago
True true
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
How's it going? When are you graduating? I'm working my my liscense right now...lol...that is not going over well. I finished a short story too!
6mali 3 years ago
It's been a long time lol I'll be graduating in 2 and a half years. I'd like to read your short story sometime.
Princesspeach2007 3 years ago
it would also be cool to make a movie about a Kabuki actor
shiroisan87 3 years ago
candles as eyebrow liner?
ouch!
grapefruiiit1994 3 years ago
i could never go a day acting like a geisha.
id change every detail of a geisha and make it my own.
candylopios 3 years ago
it must be hard for chinese to play the roll of a japanese geisha, i mean most chinese dont like this movie for that reason, bad history between the 2 countries, great movie but the book way better though.
awakstein 3 years ago 6
Yes, but the ice water was originally used to make their hands firm. That was what it said in the book...
flyingbeagles 3 years ago 2
its not here anymore=(
Se7en5674 3 years ago
During those times, i believe, is when make-up was filled with lead that geishas actually got skin cancer, premature wrinkles and actually died from it.
XxNinjaixX 3 years ago
man... i have trouble walking around normally without falling over... walking in those would probably be suicide for me. x]
ah, i really admire geisha.
LovableAsianChick10 3 years ago 4
not just the shoes. the kimono too. very elegant. and sexy. but deadly. =P
laavbunnay 3 years ago 2
how could u walk in those shoes it looks so hard
crisyangel10 3 years ago 2
geishas are really beautiful, they even have to sleep that way!This is my fav part for sure.
mysterybunny 3 years ago
That's like getting a hardcore perm.
hadassah179 3 years ago
lol.. as a maiko, you keep your hair completely up because: a)it clearly displays the "red collar", which tells passerby that you are an apprentice geisha.. and b)it's custom. as you probably noticed, Mameha and Hatsumomo both had their hair down in a few places; even while going to teahouses. when you become full geisha, you somewhat get a looser leash, if you want to call it that. and with this loose leash, you can bring out your own personality, if somewhat secretly..
MizzPolson 3 years ago
Hmmm. Chiyo's hairstyle when she's told that she's ready doesn't look geisha at all, not even maiko-like. She looks more like Disney's Mulan when went to the matchmaker...
1LadyBlackCat 3 years ago 6
i dont like mamehas hair it looks too european
preciosanna 3 years ago
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they are worse of the whores,cause feeding, even in beautiful 'art',low sadistic feelings of men,who erect on their own 'misercordatic',humanistic feelings without evenkilling
yulahn 3 years ago
why did she have to drip her fingertips in ice? is that so she can play the instrument under any circumstance?
coolchemist 3 years ago
i think cuz when u first play guitar or that instrument she was playin it hurts ur fingers.
smellyburger18 3 years ago