wing chun shaolin jee shin training kulo wing chun

[moontyger]

This is a good flow exersise to get familiar with the 'asembly' moves of wing chun. Kwun sao, Cau Sau, and gaun/jam sao. Each asembly move flows from the next and contitutes whole or in part much technology of wing chun. These 'three sisters' are pretty much universal to wing chun. I like the exersise.

[sifugarry]

Its good to have good clean debate. Remember, chi sao is not fighting. It is sensitivity training to give you contact reflexes at close range. It is also very beneficial for fighting muaythai people in the ring, beacause chi sao is also training in the pre grappling range. Go to my forum and see plenty more.

Cheers.

[sddarkman619]

again, you don't seem to be able to grasp the idea of sensativity training. this is a close in type of training that helps with very very subtle movement. I'm not arguing with you, I am just stating the facts.

believe what you want. I know from experience.

[GulaoWingChun]

excellent stuff... we do gulao wing chun as well in this case they call it kulo. it has many other names as well like woman form and big idea form. we learn the yip man style 1st when we completed all the 7 levels ... then me move on to gulao wing chun... nice to see other practitioners do it too.

tho the training is different the idea and principle is the same... keep it up its very effective and deadly and not a lot of practitioners knows it...

[boxsterwelby]

What does this actually do? It seems like time would be better spent working on technique and power for striking. I'm no expert but I would think natural reaction would be to move away from all this grabing.

[Udinbak]

the point of this is effective blocking & redirecting of force at close range. Technique and power are nothing without control.

[boxsterwelby]

maybe on a very basic level works. But, time would still be better spent working on power and real situation blocking drills.

[sddarkman619]

obviously boxster, you are a low level practitionaer, someone who isnot well versed in sesativity training. If you are good with this, your need to do "power and real sitaution blocking drills" will not be needed.

[boxsterwelby]

Okay tough guy. I guess all the real combat sports in the world are wrong about training for power. I guess muay thai, western boxing, kick boxing, lethwei etc.... are all wrong. I would trust the way those competitors train over anything you say in broken english.

[sddarkman619]

no, you said"maybe on a very basic level works" but actually this is highlevel stuff, not low level. it is very obvuious you have a low level of understanding about wing chun and sesativity training.

[boxsterwelby]

what is sesativity training? Do you mean sensitivity? And, I stick my my first statement. On a basic level, learning not to flinch and being comfortable at close range this does work. However, if you stood toe to toe with a real fighter who is going to throw real techniques from all angles it is retarded of you to stand there and try to block like this. Look at any real combat sport, no one stands still and blocks blow after blow. Once again, I'll trust what the pros do and not you.

[sddarkman619]

I am not going to respond to this, you obviously don't understand wing chun, so it wouldn't do any good to explain. Just go with what you believe. and you will be fine.

[boxsterwelby]

Why can't you explain the effectiveness? Why can't you answer my questions? This is crap, if it worked it would be in the ring. Good luck wasting your time.

[sddarkman619]

to quote the first and most effective response

"the point of this is effective blocking & redirecting of force at close range. Technique and power are nothing without control. "

period.

[boxsterwelby]

True, but to be a good fighter you have to do things second nature right? And this is training the body to react incorrectly. When someone throws a punch you don't stand there and block over and over. What I said originally is that there are better ways to learn to punch with power and better ways to learn to block/evade strikes. If you look at "real combat sports" where people get hit over and over you'll see that they don't do anything like this for training.

[kotekotekitty]

"real combat sports" Sports arent real, in real life a referee doesnt stop a guy from stamping on you or kicking your groin or eye gouging you, all 3 of these techniques could let even the toughest pro sport fighter go down with only the force of like a 10 yr old, im not saying power training isnt important but speed is more important and sensitivity and control being really powerful wont stop a guy from hitting you and the 1st part of most chineese martial arts is your saftey > whacking sum guy

[boxsterwelby]

it's real fighting. The ref stops it if someone is unable to continue. But, the striking is full force. These drills teach you nothing about absorbing real blows and it doesn't make you any stronger. It works for basic coordination on a small level.

[kotekotekitty]

it isnt real... R U L E S are there to protect however i agree with the parts you said on reality of training, i do ALOT of bagwork to get stronger because who will care if you can hit at like 100 hits in 10 seconds if you cant hurt anyone so i add realistic forces to all my training. The kind of drills i do are like, Punch a heavy bag repeatedly till it tilts ALOT and is leaning into your punches, if you puch weak then the bag will fall into you and you thus proving how well your are punching

[boxsterwelby]

I know the drill you're talking about, I agree it's good. Atleast we agree on something right?!

[kotekotekitty]

Its pointless to disagree with logic :D traditional martialarts arent "bad" but you just need to apply logic to them i.e. not standing with your foot on your head or somthin stupid like that to "confuse the opponent" lol Although it would make an exelent balance and stretch drill for a kicker

[boxsterwelby]

thanks for having a rational conversation with me. So many times when I don't agree with something on youtube people start throwing insults and talking about my mom. Even if we agree to disagree on the effectiveness of the drill, I think we both learned something in the discussion.

[boxsterwelby]

really? I guess boxers, wrestlers, muay thai fighters, k1 fighters, mma fighters and everyone else who actually train to fight are wrong. They all agree that you have to hit and practice taking hits to be prepared for fighting. I would trust all the real fighters over you a million times over.

[sifugarry]

thanks

kulo wing chun was dr, leung jan's "womens little secret" passed down to the Fung family, and now it is in melbourne, australia.

[roppokai1]

great video!! love the wing chun system very effective system!!