This Florida law, as Liberals squawked and whined about, was going to turn Florida into a wild west bloodbath with hundreds of thousands of murders. IT NEVER HAPPENED. Just as 2nd Amdt advocates predicted.
Rodriguez is an idiot. Masses of people in New Orleans aren't White. Why would he have a problem?
Dee Dee Myers is also a programmed idiot, thinking only the police & courts are capable of determining whether or not you feel threatened.
@Edgehead10075 They could've specified guns if they wanted to in the constitution, but they said arms, which includes nuclear arms. I do think that any weapons that was around at the signing of the Constitution should not require any sort of license, though. So muskets for all!
Well, then, by that logic, any means of speech that was around at the signing of the Constitution should not require any sort of license. Since computers didn't exist back then, you should need a license to write anything on the world wide web.
You don't need a license to own a gun because it's a RIGHT. If guns can be licensed, then I guess speech and religion should be licensed, as well. You should need a license to talk.
gun control saves a lot of lives. you want to save lives? ban alcahol. drinking and driving causes far more deaths than legally owned firearms. if ted kennedy can get away with killing whores while drunk, anybody can, right? nobody brings that up during a gun control debate, i dont know why! oh well. if they ever try to ban guns i would love to see how many people go down fighting. the rives will run red.
It's funny how even the most liberal americans have problem with the thought of gun control. You should NOT be able to get a gun so easily, guns are fucking firearms and people act like they're only toys. It's crazy
Gosh. Paul Rodriguez is so steenking funny. It was such a great idea to have an imbecilic frantic- gum chewing- coke head, unable to be serious, in on a serious discussion. Scarborough is NOT a conservative and Bill Maher was, is and always will be an IDIOT. Poor Rick Shroeder is the ONLY intelligent person in the panel.
GOD IS NOT UPSET WITH US BECAUSE WE HAVE A GUN TO FIGHT OFF SATAN PEOPLE.IF YOU LOOK INTO THE PASS BEFORE WE WAS HERE YOU WILL SEE EVEN GOD HELP PEOPLE EVEN BACK THEN TO KILL EVIL PEOPLE THAT CAME AFTER HIS PEOPEL AMEN.I WILL ONLY TAKE A LIFE IF SATAN COME TO TAKE MY LIFE OR MY FAMILY OR FRIENDS AMEN.IM NOT A KILLER AT ALL BUT IM NOT GOING TO LET SATAN PEOPLE WIN TO KILLING ME OR ANYONE ELSE I LOVE.THIS MAN HERE IS RIGHT TO ALL HE SAYING TO GOD AND FOR US ALL TO PROTECTING OURSELF FROM EVIL.
A dangerous law? Dangerous to criminals? Oh no. What are people doing driving around with guns in the car with their kids? Protecting them you liberal bitch. I do it all the time. N.O. is a fun town? Has he ever been one block off Bourbon street? Rodriguez needs to shut up. He is there to sell CDs. Myers thinks being able to defend yourself is "crazy". There is so much wrong with this video, I am hesitant to watch part 2.
@savage495 I know it has been a month since your post but I had to correct you. Mexico is 8th in the world for gun related deaths. That's 3 spots better the the US at 5th. So Mexico is safer. Gotta love that.
obviously criminals can get guns regardless of gun laws. but if you let every schmoe who isnt a criminal get a gun, your inviting him to become one the next time he blows his lid for whatever reason. your boss fires you for keeping your feet on the desk, you think its unfair and in a moment of unbridled rage, you shoot the guy because that option is availabe to you. ive been in such situations, but i didnt do anything stupid because i didnt have access to the means.
@CharlieSoldier that already happens it's called a shooting and if someone was going to do it and couldn't get a legal small gun they'd just go and buy a full-auto ak47 on the street for $300. People are going to blow their lids anyways all you can do is protect yourself if anything happens. and also to protect others without means to defend themselves
@CharlieSoldier Then your a tragedy waiting to happen. I hope the avg schmoe you attack with a tire iron, or kitchen knife happens to be armed and puts a hole in your crazy brain. Your accessible means argument is only an admission of your own instability and lack of credibility quit projecting onto us responsible adults who reside in reality you fuckin whacko.
kleck is another pro-gun author debunked. he makes the outrageous claim in this "survey" you cite, that "defense uses out number criminal uses". there's 20 works that refute this nonsense. he also wrote a book trying to prove gun control doesn't reduce gun crime and violence, most particularly the brady bill, which, once again is nonsense. the brady bill is highly effective. kleck and lott have to get "creative" because they don't have the facts to support their "defense" agenda.
@adrianbaxter1807 ~ guns don't die, people do. you're 37 more times likely to commit suicide within the 1st week of purchasing a gun. that statistic levels to 5 times more likely to commit suicide for about 6 more years. why? because suicide is usually an impulse reaction to a passing crisis, not a mental problem. but since a gun is so effective in executing that impulse you don't get a second chance to think it over. you are much more likely die from that gun you own than anything else.
rodriguez makes the best point, if guns make you safe, we'd be the safest country in the world, yet in reality we are the most violent with the most guns, and it isn't even close.
we have been sold a package of lies by the nra. and unfortunately most people don't know it. take schroder and his 'criminals won't follow gun laws' b.s. if you track guns, register, and license all guns this nra slogan is moot, "law abiding " citizens are the pathway to illegal guns.
@tomitstube Not even close? If you define murder the same way it actually is pretty close. In the UK, for example, for a murder to make it on the books as a murder they must get a conviction for murder, not plead down ect. If they dont make an arrest, or its plead down or if the killer get off it's never counted. In the US any death by intentional violence is counted. They count 1st degree murder convictions, the US counts bodies. That makes a HUGE diff in the stats.
@shananagans5 ~ apples and oranges, you're comparing convictions to body counts. you're cherry picking statistics to distort the truth.
guns are at least 5 times as lethal as any other weapon. less guns = less murders, less suicides, less accidental deaths. that's all you need to know,
@tomitstube Actually, it doesn't. There has never been a quality study that demonstrates gun laws lowering murder, suicide or violent crime in general. It is the UK playing with the stats. If you define murder the same way the murder rates are much closer. You need to look at actual evidence and quit assuming your emotional reactions are correct. Kates&Mauser Harvard journal of Law and Public PolicyVol.30 Article; Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder & Suicide. Good place for you to start.
@shananagans5 ~ idk where you get this stuff, oh that's right! the nra and weapons lobby. the biggest lobbying group in america behind dirty energy, pharmaceuticals, and the private insurance industry.
there have been numerous studies (with non propaganda facts) that show guns create violence. you pitter patter around england statistics, manipulating numbers etc. why just use england? america has more gun deaths than all european countries combined. you're embarrassing yourself.
@tomitstube Guns create violence? What, like evil food delivery systems such as forks create obesity? The UK has a higher overall violent crime rate than the US, exceeding the US's violent crime rate many times over; using liberal pseudo logic, one would claim that depriving the populace of guns creates violence. Don't be a libtard; there are hundreds of factors that influence the incidence of violent crime and homicide; from gang activity and urbanization, to socio-economic status
@RebelWrestler45 ~ i didn't say "guns create violence". that's your strawman to tear down. i would say guns create deadlier violence. if you want to kill someone, including yourself, what's the best way to get that done? "libtard"... gee you're a deep thinker coming up with that ingenious gem. crime rates in european countries and the u.s. are similar when comparing apples to apples. the difference is america's saturation with guns, creating the most violent society ever.
@tomitstube "There have been numerous studies that show guns create violence". No apples to apples comparisons exist between the US and countries in the EU. Comparing an open bordered socially diverse country with extreme rates of income variation, to an isolated country in the EU (e.g. the UK, or one of the various landlocked countries) that is largely socially homogeneous, then claiming gun laws as the central determinant factor of the resultant crime data is laughably ridiculous.
@tomitstube Since too many differentiating variables exist between the US and countries in the EU, one cannot rationally compare crime rates, then use a single one of those variables and represent it as the effective mediator of the resultant data. No, one has to look at internal trends of crime, and observe the effect gun legislation has had. For example, the UK's 1997 gun ban resulted in a huge spike in violent crime; murders via firearms dropped, but they were replaced with knives-success?
@RebelWrestler45 ~ guns are the single most effective way to kill people. why would anyone argue they make you safer? it simply isn't true. you have a 4 times more likely chance of dying in your home by gun accident than you do protecting yourself, and the most common victim of guns in a home are family members or friends, not some fantasy intruder scenario. it's the most disingenuous and abstractly nonsensical argument ever made, that lethal weapons designed to kill make you safer.
@tomitstube Simply untrue; Firearms are used in over 700,000 reported cases each year in self defense; and an estimated number of over 2 million cases (because people are not apt to report a crime that has been thwarted). Capacity for violence is dictated by the intent of the user, not the nature of the tool. Fantasy intruder scenario? You are far more likely to be a victim of a violent crime or robbery than have your residence burned to the ground; but is it paranoia to own a fire extinguisher?
@RebelWrestler45 ~ nope, you're using a widely debunked propaganda study by john lott and david mustard. they came up with these statistics thru phone surveys, and not a single call was confirmed by any police record. typical right wing propaganda. it started in the right wing publication the cato institute, then eventually made it to the u.s.a. today 1996. there have been at least 8 published articles all debunking these "self defense" findings as unprovable "fabrications".
@tomitstube No, I am using the Gertz and Kleck survey of 1995, whose results were reinforced by the Police Foundation survey of 1996, which was sponsored by the National Institute of Justice. The only counter study of any esteem was the National Crime Victimization survey which has since been conclusively debunked. 1.5 million violent crimes, 100,000 rapes, 2 million burglaries, and 6 million instances of larceny; fantasy scenarios? I don't think so.
@tomitstube I read a few of your comments and you never mention how our crime problem is not the "guns" fault, but, these "panty waste" district attorneys who let CRIMINALS who use guns in crimes cop a plea bargain (probation) or simply drop the charges altogether and off the criminal goes to committ more crime.
The panty waste DAs should press FEDERAL CHARGES on these thugs and teach them a lesson. The "problem" is the lack of enforcement of current gun laws.
@NoMAIG ~ another lie perpetrated by the n.r.a. "just enforce existing laws."
people get convicted on evidence. the n.r.a. has actively and successfully blocked legislation that could lock up thousands of criminals with indisputable evidence. bullet identification, registration and licensing of all gun transactions, closing private show loop holes, etc. etc. until gun advocates get serious about stopping crime with regulations they're just blowing smoke up everyone's asses.
@tomitstube Look elsewhere around the world. Registration leads to confiscation. A few examples would be the UK, Australia, and Canada. We want none of that. There is a fine line between our 2nd Amendment rights and infringement. The anti gun lobby, if not for the Supreme Courts ruling last year in McDonald vs Chicago, would push for an outright BAN on all guns. They see the "gun" as the problem and not enforcing the laws we already have.
@NoMAIG ~ and that's the point of registration, to keep individuals that the public deems dangerous from getting them. it saves lives, which again is the point. those countries you mention have lower murder rates and less lethal crimes because of those laws.
america has more gun deaths than all industrial nations combined. one of these days americans will get tired of the backwards fear mongering of evil intruders, evil governments, and the nonsense argument that guns make you safe.
@tomitstube Once again, if it were not for the Supreme Court's ruling last year, the anti gun lobby would be pushing for an all out BAN. Guns do keep me and my family safe from criminals. Guns are damn fun to shoot for practice and for hunting. The single mothers with children prefer having a nice .22lr or .380 to protect their children. The elderly have guns for protection. Each year 0.001 percent of our pop die from gun shots as a whole. How many of those are from self defense??
@NoMAIG ~ of course that's not true about gun control leading to out right gun bans. another fear tactic. automatic weapons have been regulated since 1934. you can still buy one but you have to pass a background check, be registered, and must be responsible for it. since then, automatic weapons hardly impact the crime rate. 80 years of control and still legal to own one. gee go figure. so i guess 300,000 people killed by guns in the last 10 years is just the price america has to pay?
@tomitstube Your first sentence is probably what the Australians and others said too. Now what? Just in the last 18 years has there been a push for gun control in America. Without the NRA, we would be like Aus and their gun control is way unacceptable. America is paying the price for most of those deaths because of drugs. The media rarely covers self defense killings and they dont keep stats on it so how do we know what the good % is? Drugs cause murders. Guns are tools. Guns are good.
@NoMAIG ~ okay, you've run out of cogent things to say.
the nra is a lobbying group for weapons manufacturers and are only concerned about money. that's why they distort the truth around the clock. and as long as they have thousands of dupes like you to scare with red dawn fantasies, 30,000 people will needlessly die by a gun every year. maybe it won't be someone you care about, but your odds go up everytime you grab that gun. if guns don't kill, how can drugs kill? you make no sense.
@tomitstube I bet Australians wished they had an NRA to protect their gun rights. 30,000/300,000,000=0.0001% 1/10,000th of 1% is a whopping number, omg. Most of those are from gang members killing one another over DRUG TURF. Why you even arguing about guns? The Supreme Court reaffirmed of our right to bear arms last year and struck down Chicago's erroneous 28yr handgun BAN. The year before, they struck down DC's gun BAN. Guns are hear to stay, accept it or move to Australia.
@NoMAIG ~ 300,000 gun deaths in america every decade. you're right, australia must be jealous they can't experience our blood baths. btw, gun deaths per capita are highest in the rural south.
@tomitstube Supreme Court, baby! I will think of you this weekend when our family barbeque turns into a gun shooting bonanza. My brother in laws and others bring all kinds of guns and we have a blast. I know you would enjoy such a thing if you gave it a try. We like to break out our shotguns, using #8 12ga steel birdshot and we go tree trimming or clay pigeon shooting, tons of fun and it's safe, safety glasses, hats, and ear plugs. We actually make the trees look nicer. NoMAIG
Gun control is all about people deciding what is best for you. I am an American, I am free, and I can decide on my very own what is best for me. I have made the decision to be responsible for the safety of my family. I feel it is my duty to protect the lives my family. It boils down to personal responsibility. Freedom is responsibilty.
Also, I challenge anyone to show me how they are qualified to choose what type and how many firearms I should be able to own.
Why was Paul Rodriguez even invited on this show? He had nothing to contribute for either side and just kept interrupting everyone with his dumb jokes which weren't even funny.
They should come to my neighborhood and preach their "lets give peace a chance" bullshit about not needing guns. If you can conceal carry than do, I would if I could and I'm in Canada. If you feel that you need it than you probably do.
Ricky owns "16 pistols and guns"...nothing at all odd about that? The more guns in America the better! Just look at Somalia, they're armed to the teeth and doing very well. Every man woman and child in every State in America needs as many guns as Ricky has...just in case you need to use them on multiple targets!
@TJV2009 Are you saying Somalia is in trouble just because of their guns? And most gun owners would never give a gun to a child. And so what if he has multiple guns? There are different calibers, 9mm Luger, 44 magnum, 45 ACP, 357 mag, 38 special, and a lot more. It's a good practice to try out different calibers, and see which you are comfortable with. And if you have fun shooting different calibers, then good for you. What does it matter?
@addblades1 Yes I'm saying flood America with GUNS! Lots of different calibers...big ones, small ones! Fight fire with fire! The thousands of accidental and drive by shootings over many decades are a necessary evil,...so we can maintain our GOD given rights! WE should all have the RIGHT, young and old, to control population growth! We need to protect ourselves with rifles and handguns of different calibers... it's good ole fashioned common sense!
@TJV2009 Drive by shootings will not stop from gun control. Those who are going to break the law will. Gun control won't keep guns out of criminals hands. The only people it will affect are the law abiding citizens.
And as for the accidental shootings, that's why it is necessary to keep them out of the reach of children. And the retards that would keep a gun where a child could get it, would likely end up having an accident anyways due to the retarded parents.
Bill Maher probably lives in a gated community with gaurds.
Why are people so quick to give up rights that they don't care about. The left would get rid of the 2nd ammendment but scream about the right destroying the constitution.
@ASHMarine616 You just made my point for me m8. The US has the per capita murder rate of 0.042802 per 1,000 people (ranked 26), whereas the United Kingdom has 0.0140633 per 1,000 people (ranked 46).
@Prka01 On an individual level, carrying a firearm does make you less likely to become a victim of burglary or violent crime. The reason that America isn't the safest country in the world is because gun control (or lack of) isn't the only factor which contributes to a country's safety! One would think that having the best medical facilities in the world would make the US safer, but obviously that doesn't either.
@evancmuvenom No, having the best medical facilities does not make America the healthiest country, the problem is the law, or better to say, the lack of a good law. Just like it is with firearms, the guns aren't the problem, the law that allows idiotic amounts of weapons are. I understand the need for self protection, and I understand if someone wants to own a gun for it. "A" gun, as in one. What I don't understand is the need for assault rifles.
@Prka01 And before you say that assault rifles are better because of a faster rate of fire, or a bigger magazine, let me stop you. If 6 shots from a revolver or 8 to 14 shots from a semi automatic aren't enough for you to protect yourself, you are fucked anyway and no ammount of firepower is going to save you. Forget what you see in the movies. Pit one against several, "the one" is dead 99,9% of the time.
@Prka01 No, I'm a moron, I believe everything I see in the movies. Sort of like most antigun people. I think owning assault rifles should be more heavily regulated though, as they have the higher capacity for damage and are "overkill" for almost all self defense scenarios. Almost all of people who own them legally and responsibly are hobbyists who shoot them simply for fun. Let me ask you this, if it is "one against several" is it morally right to deny him the proper means of self defense?
@evancmuvenom "it morally right to deny him the proper means of self defense?" No matter what is he defending himself with, he's still fucked. And the main problem is in the way assault weapons get on the street. Someone without a criminal record buys a load of firearms, destroys the serial numbers, sells them to someone on the street, and then reports them stolen. So if you want a 9mm or a revolver or something like that, I have no problems. But an AK47 is not needed in my oppinion.
@smith45acp And my tank is to make sure no one cuts me off in traffic, my F-16 is to make sure no birds crap on my tank, my nuclear submarine is because there might be sharks in the water... how far does it go man? You are telling me that you have to own an assault rifle to protect your property? A shotgun won't do the job?
@Prka01 That's a legitimate question, even if presented in hyperbole. The vehicles you listed have nothing to do with the right to keep and bear arms, but let's say you were being more realistic and referring to full auto or .50 cal sniper rifles. What is the likelihood a citizen would ever NEED one of those? Admittedly very slim. But we are supposed to be free in America, and that's what's important. It doesn't take one of those specialty weapons to go do evil things, so why restrict them?
@smith45acp There is free and there is free friend. If nothing should be legislated, why do you allow your goverment to force you to buy car insurance? It should also be free to do as one pleases. I'll tell you why, and it's about time someone said it. People (not only Americans, but people in general, are a bunch of retarded lunatics way too prone to panic. And I honestly don't want to see them armed. At least not armed as heavily as they dman well please. And that's where we are going.
Since the airing of this program we now know that the law has worked well, as of now carjackings in Louisiana are almost nonexsistant, The crackhead criminals know that citizens are strapped and are trained to use and legally can use their weapons to defend their gift of life and property. There isn't a single example of an accidental shooting that can be used as an excuse that someone may get shot mistakenly- not one. .45 ACP, Don't leave home without it!
And Bill is the first one to defend a drug dealer. He is a fknut!!! Steal his pot and I bet hed be worried about fighting back. Hes the biggest hypocrite ever, followed closely by the the little retard next to him.
Bill is such a piece of shit,I love how he twists things & oversimplifies them to make them seem worse than they are.It's to kill CAR JACKERS! Not just anyone sitting in their car saying,GEE I don't like that guy's face, and then shooting him which is what Bill makes it seem.Scarborough is a piece of shit RINO,defending my property is a God given right.It's like any CCW situation you can shoot if you're threatened but you don't get a get out of jail free card because you SAY you were threatened
@gabba1gabba1hey I hear you. While I wouldn't personally shoot someone to defend my property alone, I think anyone that gets into the business of B&E is taking on one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. They should know that and not be surprised when someone like you "puts them on blast"!!
Maher got the story wrong. The Japanese student (with a friend) were going to a party, went up to the door of the house they thought was the right one, and knocked. When no one answered, he and his friend decided to go in through the back door, still believing they had the right house. Naturally, the owner thought someone was trying to break in. When the kid got close (in the dark), the man shouted "FREEZE!", which the kid didn't understand the meaning of, so he didn't. Then he got shot.
did anyone hear of the country that got rid of all their guns,and all the crime stopped?????the government only has the guns ,police, military ! NAZI GERMANY!
The anti-gun liberals will always come up with hypotheticals to explain away laws that scare criminals more then cops do. Career criminals know that cops have ROE. The armed citizen has every right to protect themselves & their loved ones from the same criminal predators that liberals like Bill Maher & his ilk defend.
@paomtep "The armed citizen has every right to protect themselves & their loved ones from the same criminal predators that liberals like Bill Maher & his ilk defend"
They law they are talking about is absolutely meaningless. All we need is one law on the books that says that you can shoot someone if there is a reasonable suspicion that they will endanger your life... Oh wait, we already do!
@Primordialfan1 this statement is very exaggerated , considering that the united states has almost 5 times more people than the uk, let alone england.
Even if you didn't pull that figure out of thin air, don't pretend like gun prohibition is the only variable in your comparison between England and America. for a real experiment, outlaw guns entirely in America while keeping all other variables consistent, and I guarantee you, when victims are defenseless, criminals will have a blast.
@Primordialfan1 .... because crimes committed with guns are so much worse than crimes committed with other weapons..... besides which, it's more like 2x, not 26x, and finally because of differences in record keeping methodology between the FBI and Scotland Yard, such comparisons are moot.
@Primordialfan1 The problem is that even if we did outlaw guns now, there are so many guns in the U.S that the people doing most of the killing (gang members, other criminals) will still have no problem getting guns. Then, law abiding citizens will not have guns and no way to protect themselves. I wish it was as easy as outlawing guns but it isn't.
@Primordialfan1 I would bet an overwhelming percentage of this 2600% are gang related (no great loss there except when their errant shots hit the innocent) & suicides (also no great loss as taking ones life is cowardly). As for accidental shootings yes this is a tragedy but groups like the NRA spend millions of dollars each year to promote gun safety. I would rather live as a free & armed citizen as opposed to a disarmed subject. Freedom is not free.
more kids are killed by bad parenting then by criminals, well i'd like to point out how many kids that you don't hear about are killed in the cross fire but no one keeps track of the inner city, Chicago a few years ago had 1-3 kids with no gang ties killed every week in cross fire
@PaulUmbarger all of them, it is just like anyone else that has been brain washed in to a collective mind set, losing one's life is ok if the collective benefits from the action, or attempted actions.
@majikninja07 From MY experience, criminals don't want to engage in gun fights. They want to get what they want and get gone. If you had a choice of two victims, which would you choose, the defenceless one or the one that could kill you? As for me, and you too, I'm sure, I'd rather have a job and not have to rob ANYONE but, I just can't see someone who is selfish enough to rob/kill etc. being willing to risk a fair fight or one in which they could die.
Just because someone can shoot a carjacker doesn't mean they're going to cap everyone who comes near their car. Believe it or not but most people have an aversion to killing other people, even when they have a legal right to do so. This is a fucking stupid conversation. People SHOULD be allowed to protect their property at the expense of a criminals life. Most criminals who commit serious and violent crimes are repeat offenders and aren't going to be stopped by a little jail time.
what an obnoxious video. the mexican guy, jesus... and bill maher looks like a mix between a troll and a used car salesman. he's an arrogant greaseball troll lookin bastard. and if he's so dedicated to the "truth" he should agree with me 100 percent.
Did not make it plain that the "Carjacker law" was made because previously it was required to give up property if they didn't actually threaten you with imminent harm. With the new law, you can defend yourself in the car as in your home.
Before the "burglar law" they mentioned, you had to retreat and let a burglar have what they want, if they didn't actually threaten you.
Rodriguez mentioned the bogus "truthiness" that many children die by their parent's guns.Been debunked many times.
How come nobody mentions that marijuana is illegal EVERYWHERE!! ( except holland ) it's easier to get weed as a kid than alcohol. It's a NATIONAL ban yet we have higher crime rates and usage... jesus. When will people realize that making something illegal doesn't make it go away... it just gives it a criminal element.
Anyone find it funny how all the comedians that didn't make it in comedy are now "Political Specialist" There's this idiot, Joy Behar, and wanna be anything importnant Garaffilo. They all need to get real jobs and walk in our shoes before they go spewing this insane garbage. My GOD the self appointed, self importance gags me. Don't expect to read this, I see above that differences of opinions will be deleted.
I don't understand the idea that when a criminal gets what he wants from you, whether it is your car, your wallet, your other property, that they will obviously then be ok with leaving you as a witness and leave cause they have no more business with you. After they commit a crime it is in the criminal's best interest to kill you for their own protection from prison time.
I am not for or against gun control, it is a very fine balance that is needed, i just think it is hilarious that people think an armed populace would ACTUALLY stop a tyrannical government. They would be a nuisance sure, maybe even make an excellent underground resistance movement, but stop the government? A well trained army marine could probably take NY... lol...
That thing that you say can't happen is exactly how we became our own country. The lack of faith in the American people, or in people of any nation for that matter, that you have is astounding.
there's just a little difference between owning a pump-action-rifle or pistol for self-defense and owning a fully-automatic sniper-rifle with uranium-encoated ammunition and a capability of placing a headshot over 2.5 miles...
one is for selfdefense, the other for maximizing the bodycount and keeping the cops at distance...
ex-marine + war-trauma + sniperrifle + decently positioned tower = a not so boring afternoon with exclusive live-coverage by all media...
Liquid minds, this right is given to protect us from the powerful elite, not from criminals. As far as I'm concerned, if you have the range and cand afford the ammo, put a 105 howitzer in your backyard. Try to misuse it and see what happens to you. History goes in circles. A demographic cycle. If you be a liberal, the demographic cycle is described in the book Tragedy And Hope. Written by a professed liberal from Georgetown University
But you want to tell me, that the foundingfathers, right after the civil war, after the liberation from britain, had the only fear, that they themselves could harm their people...
I am pretty sure that it was a greater fear that "the brits could return", than the US-Government turning against it's people. Not to forget that a government that expects to fail the people so bad, that they need guns, is kind of ridiculous...
In any democracy, the Government is elected by the majority of the people.
If you think you need protection from your own government... go build your aluminumhats and always keep your shotgun ready.. some of those damn goverment-alien-chopper-ufos might try to steal your brain!!!
The only form of government, where armed civilians are needed is anarchy... governments are the institutionalised idea of NOT needing arms to protect yourself from your neighbor.
History proves my point for me. If the men and women in America had not been armed, we would not be America.
You do not understand what government is. To you, it is always good. To you, all other governments can turn bad, but not your own. You will do whatever they tell you, no matter what.
Don't set up a strawman and pretend I'm chicken little either. I'm not saying the US gov is needing to be overthrown. I'm saying there is NO good reason to take away our fire arms.
"In any democracy, the Government is elected by the majority of the people."
I mean, you are disregarding the idea that we may not be a democracy one day. You are disregarding the idea that our gov may not always be nice nice. It's an idiotic stance to take when you look at history.
See the problem with people like you liquidminds, is you seem to accept anything our gov does. You never consider the idea that a gov is a body of people, and that body of people is almost always corrupt.
Name a politician who doesn't lie or compromise. Name one you actually "trust" in the way the word is meant in normal day to day life.
You think people putting on aluminum hats are equivalent to people who have an objective view. It's just ignorance man...
@looselatitude: sorry.. eventhough I always had the impression, that the US only tries to convince the world that it's not an evil dictatorship run by corporations, money and greed by condaming communism and the axis of evil, your argumentation proves to me, that you gun-nutjobs are just a paranoid bunch of lowlifes who fear to be tricked into something by someone with a larger brain capacity than they have...
good luck killing yourself. help keeping the world clean.
Hey dumbass you're wrong now three times. You have no clue what you're talking about. The firearms you speak of were regulated, not banned, back in the 1930s in response to gangsters not because they were some kind of military arms. They were never categorized.
What you think you know is wrong. There are now three examples that should be knocking you upside the head screaming HELLO! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
Holy fuck, Bill Maher is like 20 here
mr00jimbo 1 week ago
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Scarborough is a douche. He's no Conservative.
This Florida law, as Liberals squawked and whined about, was going to turn Florida into a wild west bloodbath with hundreds of thousands of murders. IT NEVER HAPPENED. Just as 2nd Amdt advocates predicted.
Rodriguez is an idiot. Masses of people in New Orleans aren't White. Why would he have a problem?
Dee Dee Myers is also a programmed idiot, thinking only the police & courts are capable of determining whether or not you feel threatened.
NoGuff 2 weeks ago
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NoGuff 2 weeks ago
Glad Maher thinks this Rodriguez twat is as unfunny as I do.
PXR05 1 month ago
That Dee Dee idiot claims to not be for totally banning guns, yet she seems to support Washington, DC's now defunct handgun ban. Hmmmm.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
You should need a license to speak. Mindless liberals who spout nonsense about gun control should be banned from speaking.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Hell yeah - lets shoot their brains out !
JohnS1704 2 months ago
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No, I didn't say that.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Glad to see you conservatives care so dearly about the constitution, starting with Amendment #2.
CupboardNinja 2 months ago
I'm for the first amendment. All I said is that if you're going to license guns, you might as well license speech too.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Well, then, according to your second statement, you're not for free speech.
CupboardNinja 2 months ago
You're still not getting what I said. I'm AGAINST speech licenses, but I'm also AGAINST licensing guns. Rights should not be licensed.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Yeah, and since the 2nd amendment says "arms" and not guns, why not let people have any type of weapon without a license, right?
You want an artillery cannon? Right this way!
You want an RPG launcher? Here you go!
You want a nuclear bomb? They're on aisle 3!
CupboardNinja 2 months ago
I think that "arms" have been interpreted to mean guns, though.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 They could've specified guns if they wanted to in the constitution, but they said arms, which includes nuclear arms. I do think that any weapons that was around at the signing of the Constitution should not require any sort of license, though. So muskets for all!
CupboardNinja 2 months ago
Well, then, by that logic, any means of speech that was around at the signing of the Constitution should not require any sort of license. Since computers didn't exist back then, you should need a license to write anything on the world wide web.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
You don't need a license to own a gun because it's a RIGHT. If guns can be licensed, then I guess speech and religion should be licensed, as well. You should need a license to talk.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
How the hell could Bill Maher ever claim to be a libertarian?
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
gun control saves a lot of lives. you want to save lives? ban alcahol. drinking and driving causes far more deaths than legally owned firearms. if ted kennedy can get away with killing whores while drunk, anybody can, right? nobody brings that up during a gun control debate, i dont know why! oh well. if they ever try to ban guns i would love to see how many people go down fighting. the rives will run red.
1hogfan83 3 months ago
paul rodriguez (sp? who cares) my one and only push towards abortion!
1hogfan83 3 months ago
It's funny how even the most liberal americans have problem with the thought of gun control. You should NOT be able to get a gun so easily, guns are fucking firearms and people act like they're only toys. It's crazy
globin3 4 months ago
Don't like guns? Don't buy one.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
Smoking is shunned and unHollywood pushes it and bans it in films/TV
Drinking is shunned and unHollywood pushes it and bans it in films/TV
Guns are shunned and unHollywood pushes it BUT NEVER bans it in films/TV.
If unHollywood Truly backs gun control it is TIME THEY BANS ALL WEAPONS ON films/TV.
BANS ALL GUNS IN unHOLLYWOOD NOW.
PORTUGAL1010 4 months ago
Gosh. Paul Rodriguez is so steenking funny. It was such a great idea to have an imbecilic frantic- gum chewing- coke head, unable to be serious, in on a serious discussion. Scarborough is NOT a conservative and Bill Maher was, is and always will be an IDIOT. Poor Rick Shroeder is the ONLY intelligent person in the panel.
jrfranz13 4 months ago
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GOD IS NOT UPSET WITH US BECAUSE WE HAVE A GUN TO FIGHT OFF SATAN PEOPLE.IF YOU LOOK INTO THE PASS BEFORE WE WAS HERE YOU WILL SEE EVEN GOD HELP PEOPLE EVEN BACK THEN TO KILL EVIL PEOPLE THAT CAME AFTER HIS PEOPEL AMEN.I WILL ONLY TAKE A LIFE IF SATAN COME TO TAKE MY LIFE OR MY FAMILY OR FRIENDS AMEN.IM NOT A KILLER AT ALL BUT IM NOT GOING TO LET SATAN PEOPLE WIN TO KILLING ME OR ANYONE ELSE I LOVE.THIS MAN HERE IS RIGHT TO ALL HE SAYING TO GOD AND FOR US ALL TO PROTECTING OURSELF FROM EVIL.
DRUMMERAL100 4 months ago
A dangerous law? Dangerous to criminals? Oh no. What are people doing driving around with guns in the car with their kids? Protecting them you liberal bitch. I do it all the time. N.O. is a fun town? Has he ever been one block off Bourbon street? Rodriguez needs to shut up. He is there to sell CDs. Myers thinks being able to defend yourself is "crazy". There is so much wrong with this video, I am hesitant to watch part 2.
rb2112002 4 months ago
a lack of guns shure made mexico safe.
savage495 4 months ago
@savage495 I know it has been a month since your post but I had to correct you. Mexico is 8th in the world for gun related deaths. That's 3 spots better the the US at 5th. So Mexico is safer. Gotta love that.
Tesseract1976 3 months ago
@Tesseract1976 key word: "Gun" deaths, murder rate is substantially higher in Mexico than the U.S., but not like that actually matters (Sarcasm).
savage495 3 months ago
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savage495 4 months ago
9:34.... lol only 16 guns ROFL !
MrSkankaDank 6 months ago
that dude with the accent is so fucking annoying
detahdomo 6 months ago
@detahdomo lol
dmanc1 6 months ago
@detahdomo actually paul rodrigues is bill's best friend and the one annoying is that fucking republican.
Eddiemily 5 months ago
i got an idea. dont come wash my windows without me askin, and i wont mistake you for a carjacker and blow you away.
realdad32 7 months ago
couldnt even finish watching this video because Rodriquez is such an annoying moron. An annoying, talentless moron.
Silvertaker 7 months ago 2
Rick Schroeder is the ONLY one that even remotely has a brain or common sense there.
AmericansForGuns0com 7 months ago
obviously criminals can get guns regardless of gun laws. but if you let every schmoe who isnt a criminal get a gun, your inviting him to become one the next time he blows his lid for whatever reason. your boss fires you for keeping your feet on the desk, you think its unfair and in a moment of unbridled rage, you shoot the guy because that option is availabe to you. ive been in such situations, but i didnt do anything stupid because i didnt have access to the means.
CharlieSoldier 7 months ago
@CharlieSoldier that already happens it's called a shooting and if someone was going to do it and couldn't get a legal small gun they'd just go and buy a full-auto ak47 on the street for $300. People are going to blow their lids anyways all you can do is protect yourself if anything happens. and also to protect others without means to defend themselves
giftedkidrules 7 months ago
@CharlieSoldier Then your a tragedy waiting to happen. I hope the avg schmoe you attack with a tire iron, or kitchen knife happens to be armed and puts a hole in your crazy brain. Your accessible means argument is only an admission of your own instability and lack of credibility quit projecting onto us responsible adults who reside in reality you fuckin whacko.
Malbrojia 7 months ago
"Im a Radical Centrist" aka SOCIALIST!
DaGoalieSniper 8 months ago
I guess if I wanted to hear idiots talk about important subjects, this would have been a good show... but, don't we already suffer too many idiots?
RyderSpearmann 8 months ago
bill maher is the very definition of douche
MushroomPictures 8 months ago
kleck is another pro-gun author debunked. he makes the outrageous claim in this "survey" you cite, that "defense uses out number criminal uses". there's 20 works that refute this nonsense. he also wrote a book trying to prove gun control doesn't reduce gun crime and violence, most particularly the brady bill, which, once again is nonsense. the brady bill is highly effective. kleck and lott have to get "creative" because they don't have the facts to support their "defense" agenda.
tomitstube 8 months ago
The fact is this "Gun's do NOT have fingers to pull their own trigger"
adrianbaxter1807 9 months ago
@adrianbaxter1807 ~ guns don't die, people do. you're 37 more times likely to commit suicide within the 1st week of purchasing a gun. that statistic levels to 5 times more likely to commit suicide for about 6 more years. why? because suicide is usually an impulse reaction to a passing crisis, not a mental problem. but since a gun is so effective in executing that impulse you don't get a second chance to think it over. you are much more likely die from that gun you own than anything else.
tomitstube 9 months ago
rodriguez makes the best point, if guns make you safe, we'd be the safest country in the world, yet in reality we are the most violent with the most guns, and it isn't even close.
we have been sold a package of lies by the nra. and unfortunately most people don't know it. take schroder and his 'criminals won't follow gun laws' b.s. if you track guns, register, and license all guns this nra slogan is moot, "law abiding " citizens are the pathway to illegal guns.
tomitstube 9 months ago
@tomitstube Not even close? If you define murder the same way it actually is pretty close. In the UK, for example, for a murder to make it on the books as a murder they must get a conviction for murder, not plead down ect. If they dont make an arrest, or its plead down or if the killer get off it's never counted. In the US any death by intentional violence is counted. They count 1st degree murder convictions, the US counts bodies. That makes a HUGE diff in the stats.
shananagans5 9 months ago
@shananagans5 ~ apples and oranges, you're comparing convictions to body counts. you're cherry picking statistics to distort the truth.
guns are at least 5 times as lethal as any other weapon. less guns = less murders, less suicides, less accidental deaths. that's all you need to know,
tomitstube 9 months ago
@tomitstube Actually, it doesn't. There has never been a quality study that demonstrates gun laws lowering murder, suicide or violent crime in general. It is the UK playing with the stats. If you define murder the same way the murder rates are much closer. You need to look at actual evidence and quit assuming your emotional reactions are correct. Kates&Mauser Harvard journal of Law and Public PolicyVol.30 Article; Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder & Suicide. Good place for you to start.
shananagans5 9 months ago
@shananagans5 ~ idk where you get this stuff, oh that's right! the nra and weapons lobby. the biggest lobbying group in america behind dirty energy, pharmaceuticals, and the private insurance industry.
there have been numerous studies (with non propaganda facts) that show guns create violence. you pitter patter around england statistics, manipulating numbers etc. why just use england? america has more gun deaths than all european countries combined. you're embarrassing yourself.
tomitstube 9 months ago
@tomitstube Guns create violence? What, like evil food delivery systems such as forks create obesity? The UK has a higher overall violent crime rate than the US, exceeding the US's violent crime rate many times over; using liberal pseudo logic, one would claim that depriving the populace of guns creates violence. Don't be a libtard; there are hundreds of factors that influence the incidence of violent crime and homicide; from gang activity and urbanization, to socio-economic status
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 ~ i didn't say "guns create violence". that's your strawman to tear down. i would say guns create deadlier violence. if you want to kill someone, including yourself, what's the best way to get that done? "libtard"... gee you're a deep thinker coming up with that ingenious gem. crime rates in european countries and the u.s. are similar when comparing apples to apples. the difference is america's saturation with guns, creating the most violent society ever.
tomitstube 9 months ago
@tomitstube "There have been numerous studies that show guns create violence". No apples to apples comparisons exist between the US and countries in the EU. Comparing an open bordered socially diverse country with extreme rates of income variation, to an isolated country in the EU (e.g. the UK, or one of the various landlocked countries) that is largely socially homogeneous, then claiming gun laws as the central determinant factor of the resultant crime data is laughably ridiculous.
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@tomitstube Since too many differentiating variables exist between the US and countries in the EU, one cannot rationally compare crime rates, then use a single one of those variables and represent it as the effective mediator of the resultant data. No, one has to look at internal trends of crime, and observe the effect gun legislation has had. For example, the UK's 1997 gun ban resulted in a huge spike in violent crime; murders via firearms dropped, but they were replaced with knives-success?
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 ~ guns are the single most effective way to kill people. why would anyone argue they make you safer? it simply isn't true. you have a 4 times more likely chance of dying in your home by gun accident than you do protecting yourself, and the most common victim of guns in a home are family members or friends, not some fantasy intruder scenario. it's the most disingenuous and abstractly nonsensical argument ever made, that lethal weapons designed to kill make you safer.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Simply untrue; Firearms are used in over 700,000 reported cases each year in self defense; and an estimated number of over 2 million cases (because people are not apt to report a crime that has been thwarted). Capacity for violence is dictated by the intent of the user, not the nature of the tool. Fantasy intruder scenario? You are far more likely to be a victim of a violent crime or robbery than have your residence burned to the ground; but is it paranoia to own a fire extinguisher?
RebelWrestler45 8 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 ~ nope, you're using a widely debunked propaganda study by john lott and david mustard. they came up with these statistics thru phone surveys, and not a single call was confirmed by any police record. typical right wing propaganda. it started in the right wing publication the cato institute, then eventually made it to the u.s.a. today 1996. there have been at least 8 published articles all debunking these "self defense" findings as unprovable "fabrications".
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube No, I am using the Gertz and Kleck survey of 1995, whose results were reinforced by the Police Foundation survey of 1996, which was sponsored by the National Institute of Justice. The only counter study of any esteem was the National Crime Victimization survey which has since been conclusively debunked. 1.5 million violent crimes, 100,000 rapes, 2 million burglaries, and 6 million instances of larceny; fantasy scenarios? I don't think so.
RebelWrestler45 8 months ago
@tomitstube I read a few of your comments and you never mention how our crime problem is not the "guns" fault, but, these "panty waste" district attorneys who let CRIMINALS who use guns in crimes cop a plea bargain (probation) or simply drop the charges altogether and off the criminal goes to committ more crime.
The panty waste DAs should press FEDERAL CHARGES on these thugs and teach them a lesson. The "problem" is the lack of enforcement of current gun laws.
NoMAIG 8 months ago
@NoMAIG ~ another lie perpetrated by the n.r.a. "just enforce existing laws."
people get convicted on evidence. the n.r.a. has actively and successfully blocked legislation that could lock up thousands of criminals with indisputable evidence. bullet identification, registration and licensing of all gun transactions, closing private show loop holes, etc. etc. until gun advocates get serious about stopping crime with regulations they're just blowing smoke up everyone's asses.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Look elsewhere around the world. Registration leads to confiscation. A few examples would be the UK, Australia, and Canada. We want none of that. There is a fine line between our 2nd Amendment rights and infringement. The anti gun lobby, if not for the Supreme Courts ruling last year in McDonald vs Chicago, would push for an outright BAN on all guns. They see the "gun" as the problem and not enforcing the laws we already have.
NoMAIG 8 months ago
@NoMAIG ~ and that's the point of registration, to keep individuals that the public deems dangerous from getting them. it saves lives, which again is the point. those countries you mention have lower murder rates and less lethal crimes because of those laws.
america has more gun deaths than all industrial nations combined. one of these days americans will get tired of the backwards fear mongering of evil intruders, evil governments, and the nonsense argument that guns make you safe.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Once again, if it were not for the Supreme Court's ruling last year, the anti gun lobby would be pushing for an all out BAN. Guns do keep me and my family safe from criminals. Guns are damn fun to shoot for practice and for hunting. The single mothers with children prefer having a nice .22lr or .380 to protect their children. The elderly have guns for protection. Each year 0.001 percent of our pop die from gun shots as a whole. How many of those are from self defense??
NoMAIG 8 months ago
@NoMAIG ~ of course that's not true about gun control leading to out right gun bans. another fear tactic. automatic weapons have been regulated since 1934. you can still buy one but you have to pass a background check, be registered, and must be responsible for it. since then, automatic weapons hardly impact the crime rate. 80 years of control and still legal to own one. gee go figure. so i guess 300,000 people killed by guns in the last 10 years is just the price america has to pay?
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Your first sentence is probably what the Australians and others said too. Now what? Just in the last 18 years has there been a push for gun control in America. Without the NRA, we would be like Aus and their gun control is way unacceptable. America is paying the price for most of those deaths because of drugs. The media rarely covers self defense killings and they dont keep stats on it so how do we know what the good % is? Drugs cause murders. Guns are tools. Guns are good.
NoMAIG 8 months ago
@NoMAIG ~ okay, you've run out of cogent things to say.
the nra is a lobbying group for weapons manufacturers and are only concerned about money. that's why they distort the truth around the clock. and as long as they have thousands of dupes like you to scare with red dawn fantasies, 30,000 people will needlessly die by a gun every year. maybe it won't be someone you care about, but your odds go up everytime you grab that gun. if guns don't kill, how can drugs kill? you make no sense.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube I bet Australians wished they had an NRA to protect their gun rights. 30,000/300,000,000=0.0001% 1/10,000th of 1% is a whopping number, omg. Most of those are from gang members killing one another over DRUG TURF. Why you even arguing about guns? The Supreme Court reaffirmed of our right to bear arms last year and struck down Chicago's erroneous 28yr handgun BAN. The year before, they struck down DC's gun BAN. Guns are hear to stay, accept it or move to Australia.
NoMAIG 8 months ago
@NoMAIG ~ 300,000 gun deaths in america every decade. you're right, australia must be jealous they can't experience our blood baths. btw, gun deaths per capita are highest in the rural south.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Supreme Court, baby! I will think of you this weekend when our family barbeque turns into a gun shooting bonanza. My brother in laws and others bring all kinds of guns and we have a blast. I know you would enjoy such a thing if you gave it a try. We like to break out our shotguns, using #8 12ga steel birdshot and we go tree trimming or clay pigeon shooting, tons of fun and it's safe, safety glasses, hats, and ear plugs. We actually make the trees look nicer. NoMAIG
NoMAIG 8 months ago
Bill Maher is a sorry cocksucker, I only opened this because I thought it was the guy from Perfect Strangers.
kingtut23456 10 months ago
Paul Rodriguez should go live in China and see how he likes living in a country where nobody owns any guns , but the government.
crazyredlion4500 10 months ago
Gun control is all about people deciding what is best for you. I am an American, I am free, and I can decide on my very own what is best for me. I have made the decision to be responsible for the safety of my family. I feel it is my duty to protect the lives my family. It boils down to personal responsibility. Freedom is responsibilty.
Also, I challenge anyone to show me how they are qualified to choose what type and how many firearms I should be able to own.
condition1kimber 11 months ago
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condition1kimber 11 months ago
7:04-7:11 effectively ended the entire argument. hooray for common sense.
jakedrumfellow 11 months ago
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns"
eatthatmeatball 1 year ago
@eatthatmeatball same can be said about heroin.
vjanik 1 year ago
Why was Paul Rodriguez even invited on this show? He had nothing to contribute for either side and just kept interrupting everyone with his dumb jokes which weren't even funny.
rudyfortner2007 1 year ago
They should come to my neighborhood and preach their "lets give peace a chance" bullshit about not needing guns. If you can conceal carry than do, I would if I could and I'm in Canada. If you feel that you need it than you probably do.
D33Lux 1 year ago
Ricky owns "16 pistols and guns"...nothing at all odd about that? The more guns in America the better! Just look at Somalia, they're armed to the teeth and doing very well. Every man woman and child in every State in America needs as many guns as Ricky has...just in case you need to use them on multiple targets!
TJV2009 1 year ago
@TJV2009 Are you saying Somalia is in trouble just because of their guns? And most gun owners would never give a gun to a child. And so what if he has multiple guns? There are different calibers, 9mm Luger, 44 magnum, 45 ACP, 357 mag, 38 special, and a lot more. It's a good practice to try out different calibers, and see which you are comfortable with. And if you have fun shooting different calibers, then good for you. What does it matter?
addblades1 1 year ago
@addblades1 Yes I'm saying flood America with GUNS! Lots of different calibers...big ones, small ones! Fight fire with fire! The thousands of accidental and drive by shootings over many decades are a necessary evil,...so we can maintain our GOD given rights! WE should all have the RIGHT, young and old, to control population growth! We need to protect ourselves with rifles and handguns of different calibers... it's good ole fashioned common sense!
TJV2009 1 year ago
@TJV2009 Drive by shootings will not stop from gun control. Those who are going to break the law will. Gun control won't keep guns out of criminals hands. The only people it will affect are the law abiding citizens.
And as for the accidental shootings, that's why it is necessary to keep them out of the reach of children. And the retards that would keep a gun where a child could get it, would likely end up having an accident anyways due to the retarded parents.
addblades1 1 year ago
Bill Maher probably lives in a gated community with gaurds.
Why are people so quick to give up rights that they don't care about. The left would get rid of the 2nd ammendment but scream about the right destroying the constitution.
aqinthe 1 year ago
"If guns made you safer then the US would be the safest country in the world, it's not." Spot on in my oppinion.
Prka01 1 year ago
@Prka01 If not having guns is the safest then the UK and other countries that outlaw guns should be completely crime free, but their not.
ASHMarine616 11 months ago
@ASHMarine616 You just made my point for me m8. The US has the per capita murder rate of 0.042802 per 1,000 people (ranked 26), whereas the United Kingdom has 0.0140633 per 1,000 people (ranked 46).
Prka01 11 months ago
@Prka01
The UK has a lower murder rate but has a drastically higher violent crime rate.
762BR 11 months ago
@Prka01 On an individual level, carrying a firearm does make you less likely to become a victim of burglary or violent crime. The reason that America isn't the safest country in the world is because gun control (or lack of) isn't the only factor which contributes to a country's safety! One would think that having the best medical facilities in the world would make the US safer, but obviously that doesn't either.
evancmuvenom 11 months ago
@evancmuvenom No, having the best medical facilities does not make America the healthiest country, the problem is the law, or better to say, the lack of a good law. Just like it is with firearms, the guns aren't the problem, the law that allows idiotic amounts of weapons are. I understand the need for self protection, and I understand if someone wants to own a gun for it. "A" gun, as in one. What I don't understand is the need for assault rifles.
Prka01 11 months ago
@Prka01 And before you say that assault rifles are better because of a faster rate of fire, or a bigger magazine, let me stop you. If 6 shots from a revolver or 8 to 14 shots from a semi automatic aren't enough for you to protect yourself, you are fucked anyway and no ammount of firepower is going to save you. Forget what you see in the movies. Pit one against several, "the one" is dead 99,9% of the time.
Prka01 11 months ago
@Prka01 No, I'm a moron, I believe everything I see in the movies. Sort of like most antigun people. I think owning assault rifles should be more heavily regulated though, as they have the higher capacity for damage and are "overkill" for almost all self defense scenarios. Almost all of people who own them legally and responsibly are hobbyists who shoot them simply for fun. Let me ask you this, if it is "one against several" is it morally right to deny him the proper means of self defense?
evancmuvenom 11 months ago
@evancmuvenom "it morally right to deny him the proper means of self defense?" No matter what is he defending himself with, he's still fucked. And the main problem is in the way assault weapons get on the street. Someone without a criminal record buys a load of firearms, destroys the serial numbers, sells them to someone on the street, and then reports them stolen. So if you want a 9mm or a revolver or something like that, I have no problems. But an AK47 is not needed in my oppinion.
Prka01 11 months ago
@Prka01 My rifles and shotguns are for hunting, my pistols are for self defense and my ar15 is to make sure no one takes the others away.
smith45acp 11 months ago
@smith45acp And my tank is to make sure no one cuts me off in traffic, my F-16 is to make sure no birds crap on my tank, my nuclear submarine is because there might be sharks in the water... how far does it go man? You are telling me that you have to own an assault rifle to protect your property? A shotgun won't do the job?
Prka01 11 months ago
@Prka01 That's a legitimate question, even if presented in hyperbole. The vehicles you listed have nothing to do with the right to keep and bear arms, but let's say you were being more realistic and referring to full auto or .50 cal sniper rifles. What is the likelihood a citizen would ever NEED one of those? Admittedly very slim. But we are supposed to be free in America, and that's what's important. It doesn't take one of those specialty weapons to go do evil things, so why restrict them?
smith45acp 11 months ago
@smith45acp There is free and there is free friend. If nothing should be legislated, why do you allow your goverment to force you to buy car insurance? It should also be free to do as one pleases. I'll tell you why, and it's about time someone said it. People (not only Americans, but people in general, are a bunch of retarded lunatics way too prone to panic. And I honestly don't want to see them armed. At least not armed as heavily as they dman well please. And that's where we are going.
Prka01 11 months ago
I have an all new respect for Rick Schroeder now.
sabotage1970 1 year ago
Since the airing of this program we now know that the law has worked well, as of now carjackings in Louisiana are almost nonexsistant, The crackhead criminals know that citizens are strapped and are trained to use and legally can use their weapons to defend their gift of life and property. There isn't a single example of an accidental shooting that can be used as an excuse that someone may get shot mistakenly- not one. .45 ACP, Don't leave home without it!
donchautin 1 year ago
And Bill is the first one to defend a drug dealer. He is a fknut!!! Steal his pot and I bet hed be worried about fighting back. Hes the biggest hypocrite ever, followed closely by the the little retard next to him.
rikrmrtis1313 1 year ago
Shut up, Paul! Jeeez....
ebrak47 1 year ago
Bill is such a piece of shit,I love how he twists things & oversimplifies them to make them seem worse than they are.It's to kill CAR JACKERS! Not just anyone sitting in their car saying,GEE I don't like that guy's face, and then shooting him which is what Bill makes it seem.Scarborough is a piece of shit RINO,defending my property is a God given right.It's like any CCW situation you can shoot if you're threatened but you don't get a get out of jail free card because you SAY you were threatened
RightWingCon81 1 year ago
lets all roll over and give people our stuff.
fuck that. its mine, i worked for it. you want to steal it, im putting you on blast.
gabba1gabba1hey 1 year ago 15
@gabba1gabba1hey I hear you. While I wouldn't personally shoot someone to defend my property alone, I think anyone that gets into the business of B&E is taking on one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. They should know that and not be surprised when someone like you "puts them on blast"!!
smith45acp 11 months ago
@gabba1gabba1hey haha
Freedom21stCenturi 7 months ago
@gabba1gabba1hey High five Rambo!
spungnut 4 months ago
Maher got the story wrong. The Japanese student (with a friend) were going to a party, went up to the door of the house they thought was the right one, and knocked. When no one answered, he and his friend decided to go in through the back door, still believing they had the right house. Naturally, the owner thought someone was trying to break in. When the kid got close (in the dark), the man shouted "FREEZE!", which the kid didn't understand the meaning of, so he didn't. Then he got shot.
soapfiction 1 year ago
did anyone hear of the country that got rid of all their guns,and all the crime stopped?????the government only has the guns ,police, military ! NAZI GERMANY!
vanseventy 1 year ago 7
@vanseventy Wrong but I'm not gonna bother arguing with you.
hughes7520 4 months ago
i want to smack the shit out of dee dee and paul always interrupting! i cant stand rude ass people!!
vanseventy 1 year ago
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Boonamal 1 year ago
@PaulUmbarger seriously guy? payed troll or less of a life then i? also they do it all the time when gang members confront each other.
majikninja07 1 year ago
I stopped watching after 2 minutes because of Rodriguez
2edsajdmsa 1 year ago
Couldn't watch past 2 minutes because of that jackass talking every 5 seconds
LetsGo6009 1 year ago
The anti-gun liberals will always come up with hypotheticals to explain away laws that scare criminals more then cops do. Career criminals know that cops have ROE. The armed citizen has every right to protect themselves & their loved ones from the same criminal predators that liberals like Bill Maher & his ilk defend.
paomtep 1 year ago
@paomtep How is he protecting criminals?
moreoreos123 1 year ago
@moreoreos123 Uhmm...where did I say he was protecting criminals?
paomtep 1 year ago
@paomtep "The armed citizen has every right to protect themselves & their loved ones from the same criminal predators that liberals like Bill Maher & his ilk defend"
moreoreos123 1 year ago
I didnt realize Barry Manilow wrote for Vanity Fair.
Shit I need to get out more.
SouthOCmixdown 1 year ago
They law they are talking about is absolutely meaningless. All we need is one law on the books that says that you can shoot someone if there is a reasonable suspicion that they will endanger your life... Oh wait, we already do!
Cyber0Bill 1 year ago
you should beable to have a gun but it should be taken away if ur stuipd with them...
sxcboy4u 1 year ago 3
@sxcboy4u You mean prevent people from having a gun AFTER they kill a few people? Moron
hughes7520 1 year ago
Can you believe this crap?Your not allowed to protect yourself to these people.
xxDogsoldierxx 1 year ago 3
@xxDogsoldierxx Yeah, and I bet these people have armed security to protect THEM but, I'm just not worthy of saving my own life.
PaulUmbarger 1 year ago
Paul Rodriguez needs to have his ass kicked.
warblerab 1 year ago 2
i see a knife more dangerous than a gun.
1982FMJ 1 year ago
fuck you joe.
cassidy99ful 1 year ago
This is a discussion between the ignorant and the ignorant.
nemo227 1 year ago
The number of gun related deaths in America, where guns are legal, is 2600% higher than England, where guns aren't legal.
I can't help but think, the person in charge of legalising guns feels the same way about americans as I do.
Primordialfan1 1 year ago
@Primordialfan1 this statement is very exaggerated , considering that the united states has almost 5 times more people than the uk, let alone england.
redroverguy 1 year ago
@Primordialfan1,
Even if you didn't pull that figure out of thin air, don't pretend like gun prohibition is the only variable in your comparison between England and America. for a real experiment, outlaw guns entirely in America while keeping all other variables consistent, and I guarantee you, when victims are defenseless, criminals will have a blast.
truthadvocate 1 year ago
@Primordialfan1 .... because crimes committed with guns are so much worse than crimes committed with other weapons..... besides which, it's more like 2x, not 26x, and finally because of differences in record keeping methodology between the FBI and Scotland Yard, such comparisons are moot.
IsaacKarjala 1 year ago
@Primordialfan1 That number doesn't mean shit unless you make it per capita.
FatherTime89 1 year ago
@Primordialfan1 The problem is that even if we did outlaw guns now, there are so many guns in the U.S that the people doing most of the killing (gang members, other criminals) will still have no problem getting guns. Then, law abiding citizens will not have guns and no way to protect themselves. I wish it was as easy as outlawing guns but it isn't.
moreoreos123 1 year ago
@Primordialfan1 I would bet an overwhelming percentage of this 2600% are gang related (no great loss there except when their errant shots hit the innocent) & suicides (also no great loss as taking ones life is cowardly). As for accidental shootings yes this is a tragedy but groups like the NRA spend millions of dollars each year to promote gun safety. I would rather live as a free & armed citizen as opposed to a disarmed subject. Freedom is not free.
paomtep 1 year ago
more kids are killed by bad parenting then by criminals, well i'd like to point out how many kids that you don't hear about are killed in the cross fire but no one keeps track of the inner city, Chicago a few years ago had 1-3 kids with no gang ties killed every week in cross fire
majikninja07 1 year ago
@majikninja07 One has to wonder how many gang members would pull out a gun if they knew they had a reasonable chance of being shot themselves.....
PaulUmbarger 1 year ago
@PaulUmbarger all of them, it is just like anyone else that has been brain washed in to a collective mind set, losing one's life is ok if the collective benefits from the action, or attempted actions.
majikninja07 1 year ago
@majikninja07 From MY experience, criminals don't want to engage in gun fights. They want to get what they want and get gone. If you had a choice of two victims, which would you choose, the defenceless one or the one that could kill you? As for me, and you too, I'm sure, I'd rather have a job and not have to rob ANYONE but, I just can't see someone who is selfish enough to rob/kill etc. being willing to risk a fair fight or one in which they could die.
PaulUmbarger 1 year ago
Just because someone can shoot a carjacker doesn't mean they're going to cap everyone who comes near their car. Believe it or not but most people have an aversion to killing other people, even when they have a legal right to do so. This is a fucking stupid conversation. People SHOULD be allowed to protect their property at the expense of a criminals life. Most criminals who commit serious and violent crimes are repeat offenders and aren't going to be stopped by a little jail time.
Snipe4261 1 year ago
Paul Rodriguez is an irritating, drunk, little fuck.
JoshSitar 1 year ago 44
@JoshSitar I see about a gram's worth of coke right before going on stage for him here!
smith45acp 11 months ago
That Dee Dee broad is stupid.
rocbola 1 year ago
what an obnoxious video. the mexican guy, jesus... and bill maher looks like a mix between a troll and a used car salesman. he's an arrogant greaseball troll lookin bastard. and if he's so dedicated to the "truth" he should agree with me 100 percent.
GETitYAdig42 1 year ago 2
Did not make it plain that the "Carjacker law" was made because previously it was required to give up property if they didn't actually threaten you with imminent harm. With the new law, you can defend yourself in the car as in your home.
Before the "burglar law" they mentioned, you had to retreat and let a burglar have what they want, if they didn't actually threaten you.
Rodriguez mentioned the bogus "truthiness" that many children die by their parent's guns.Been debunked many times.
JFrazer4303 1 year ago
How come nobody mentions that marijuana is illegal EVERYWHERE!! ( except holland ) it's easier to get weed as a kid than alcohol. It's a NATIONAL ban yet we have higher crime rates and usage... jesus. When will people realize that making something illegal doesn't make it go away... it just gives it a criminal element.
safewaysecurity 1 year ago 2
Anyone find it funny how all the comedians that didn't make it in comedy are now "Political Specialist" There's this idiot, Joy Behar, and wanna be anything importnant Garaffilo. They all need to get real jobs and walk in our shoes before they go spewing this insane garbage. My GOD the self appointed, self importance gags me. Don't expect to read this, I see above that differences of opinions will be deleted.
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Allamericom 1 year ago
its Shill Maher. Paid Liar.
XxM4RtyRxX 1 year ago
That guy Paul Rodriguez is annoying the hell out of me. Shut up already! I'm only 1 1/2 minutes into it and he is annoying me.
july7nyc 1 year ago 2
I don't understand the idea that when a criminal gets what he wants from you, whether it is your car, your wallet, your other property, that they will obviously then be ok with leaving you as a witness and leave cause they have no more business with you. After they commit a crime it is in the criminal's best interest to kill you for their own protection from prison time.
stix2139 1 year ago
I'm from Louisiana, I didnt know that you couldnt shoot people trying to get into your car in other states
Abcgummy1791 1 year ago
Fuck anyone that doesn't think it's okay to protect your own property. Screw you
IslandersMets10 1 year ago
Schroder is a gun happy moron
eddo1983 1 year ago
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fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
I am not for or against gun control, it is a very fine balance that is needed, i just think it is hilarious that people think an armed populace would ACTUALLY stop a tyrannical government. They would be a nuisance sure, maybe even make an excellent underground resistance movement, but stop the government? A well trained army marine could probably take NY... lol...
QuixoticM 1 year ago
@QuixoticM
That thing that you say can't happen is exactly how we became our own country. The lack of faith in the American people, or in people of any nation for that matter, that you have is astounding.
jboritzki 1 year ago
there's just a little difference between owning a pump-action-rifle or pistol for self-defense and owning a fully-automatic sniper-rifle with uranium-encoated ammunition and a capability of placing a headshot over 2.5 miles...
one is for selfdefense, the other for maximizing the bodycount and keeping the cops at distance...
ex-marine + war-trauma + sniperrifle + decently positioned tower = a not so boring afternoon with exclusive live-coverage by all media...
liquidminds 1 year ago
Liquid minds, this right is given to protect us from the powerful elite, not from criminals. As far as I'm concerned, if you have the range and cand afford the ammo, put a 105 howitzer in your backyard. Try to misuse it and see what happens to you. History goes in circles. A demographic cycle. If you be a liberal, the demographic cycle is described in the book Tragedy And Hope. Written by a professed liberal from Georgetown University
farrier616 1 year ago
that's what you think today...
But you want to tell me, that the foundingfathers, right after the civil war, after the liberation from britain, had the only fear, that they themselves could harm their people...
I am pretty sure that it was a greater fear that "the brits could return", than the US-Government turning against it's people. Not to forget that a government that expects to fail the people so bad, that they need guns, is kind of ridiculous...
liquidminds 1 year ago
@liquidminds
A huge failing in your logic exists at the point when you think guns in the hands of citizens is only to protect them from OTHER governments.
The point is, in fact, that the PEOPLE deserve protection from any government including their own.
Why do you think every "evil" dictator removes their citizens right to bear arms first.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
In any democracy, the Government is elected by the majority of the people.
If you think you need protection from your own government... go build your aluminumhats and always keep your shotgun ready.. some of those damn goverment-alien-chopper-ufos might try to steal your brain!!!
The only form of government, where armed civilians are needed is anarchy... governments are the institutionalised idea of NOT needing arms to protect yourself from your neighbor.
liquidminds 1 year ago
History proves my point for me. If the men and women in America had not been armed, we would not be America.
You do not understand what government is. To you, it is always good. To you, all other governments can turn bad, but not your own. You will do whatever they tell you, no matter what.
Don't set up a strawman and pretend I'm chicken little either. I'm not saying the US gov is needing to be overthrown. I'm saying there is NO good reason to take away our fire arms.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
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"In any democracy, the Government is elected by the majority of the people."
I mean, you are disregarding the idea that we may not be a democracy one day. You are disregarding the idea that our gov may not always be nice nice. It's an idiotic stance to take when you look at history.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
See the problem with people like you liquidminds, is you seem to accept anything our gov does. You never consider the idea that a gov is a body of people, and that body of people is almost always corrupt.
Name a politician who doesn't lie or compromise. Name one you actually "trust" in the way the word is meant in normal day to day life.
You think people putting on aluminum hats are equivalent to people who have an objective view. It's just ignorance man...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
"the individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States." (Bush v. Gore)
We are not a Democracy.
I don't know how much of your mind has been liquidated but if you still have a clue you would understand the role of an armed populace in a Republic.
LooseLatitude 1 year ago
@looselatitude: sorry.. eventhough I always had the impression, that the US only tries to convince the world that it's not an evil dictatorship run by corporations, money and greed by condaming communism and the axis of evil, your argumentation proves to me, that you gun-nutjobs are just a paranoid bunch of lowlifes who fear to be tricked into something by someone with a larger brain capacity than they have...
good luck killing yourself. help keeping the world clean.
liquidminds 1 year ago
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@liquidminds
"owning a fully-automatic sniper-rifle with uranium-encoated ammunition and a capability of placing a headshot over 2.5 miles..."
That would be highly illegal in America...
That's two incorrect statements. Please, just stop yourself. It's embarrassing.
LooseLatitude 1 year ago
@liquidminds
"owning a fully-automatic sniper-rifle with uranium-encoated ammunition and a capability of placing a headshot over 2.5 miles..."
That would be highly illegal in America...
That's two incorrect statements. Please, just stop yourself. It's embarrassing.
LooseLatitude 1 year ago
@LooseLatitude If you look up your history of law, you will find out, that these kind of guns were banned somewhen in the late nineties...
Before that, they were listed as huntingequipment i think...
liquidminds 1 year ago
@liquidminds
Hey dumbass you're wrong now three times. You have no clue what you're talking about. The firearms you speak of were regulated, not banned, back in the 1930s in response to gangsters not because they were some kind of military arms. They were never categorized.
What you think you know is wrong. There are now three examples that should be knocking you upside the head screaming HELLO! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
LooseLatitude 1 year ago