@richig761 Of course they were good, but they weren't great. They were serviceable. They did their job well. But ultimately they were no name guys. Scrubs if you will. And Brady made them better than they should have been. I don't think any WR other than Gaffney has made any other impact on another team in a way.
Do the giants fans just go to all the patriots videos and talk shit.....it's a game someone has to win and someone has to lose...I bet you the pats players are sleeping easy even though the lost...just saying
I'm glad he lost he and his wife seem like they are above the rest. hmmmm before he met her he won the super bowl after the marriage..NONE who should Mrs. Brady really blame..
@TheRoflcopter2012 Tom Brady won super bowls before he was married. and after, NONE. How dare Mrs. Brady Gisele yell at his teammates for his loss, Maybe she should look within herself for the answer of his losing...Married to her seems like too much stress and he seems to yell just as much as that Super Model does herself, Well there is one Super named thing this year again, in the Brady Household....
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Brady and Manning are like this cause they're like their fans, they want to win and they care more than anyone else. These are two of the greatest qb's to ever play the game and it's the fire that burns inside them like shown here that drives them to be great.
I'm not a Pats fan, but i'm not a bangwaggon jumper either. But your right, and you have the right to boast. 3 Super Bowls in the last 11 years, ain't nobody fucking with ya'll. And that's the truth.....
@dempsjld to be despised in the nfl is a good thing. it means you have accomplished so many great things other fans are haters and jealous, when the patriots sucked they were irrelevant, and that;s a bad thing.
@Ironman374 how the hell is it cheating if everyteam does it? bill cowher and jimmy johnson admit to doing that. 2 of the greatest coaches of all time. also if they were caught,how could they have "cheated" the rest of the season seeing as if they were "cheating" and caught wouldnt the nfl have had them under close supervision? if not then i guess they weren't really "cheating".
@Ironman374 you keep saying the pats cheated their way to 18-0 but they got caught in the pre-season then crushed every team they faced. also the giants may have been the lowest wildcard seed but they had one of the best defenses.but like stopreplyingbk said every team does what the pats did and even worse. also if bradys defense could actually give him help and sack eli before he makes that throw and that guy with the miracle catch. obviously youre afan who hates brady cause hes not on ur team.
@Ironman374 Goodel said no advantaged was gained. Also that rule of where the "cheating" came into effect came AFTER the 2005 season. So anything before that was legal. Also, the rule was about camera placement, no stealing any signal calls.
@Ironman374 brady had the better team? on defense that might be true but on offense brady only had welker and branch. who arent even deep threats. look what happened when he got moss, he was unstoppable. imagine what bradys stats would be if he had moss or some other deep threat throughout his career. just shows how good brady is and how overrated peyton is who had a great receiving core his whole career. brady-3 superbowls with bad receivers,manning-1 superbowl great receivers.
@Ironman374 Tom Brady... Peyton Manning.... even just saying the name tom sounds better... Matt Cassel isnt a bad quarterback cmon he in KC what can ya do? but hes still putting up better stats than that year, K and now look at indy's quarterback so far...lets get real there going nowhere in the NFL.... Oh and did i forget to mention Tom Brady is on pace to break both records for yards and thrown touchdowns.. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK
@alotcoolerthanyou He's playing in a much more passer friendly system, so it's bound to get broken. Is it coincidence that Marino's records weren't even close to being touched until now, where there are 3 or 4 quarterbacks capable of it? No. He passed 5,000 during a time where 4,000 is almost unheard of. And with the receivers he had? But I'll bite and play stats. Kerry Collins has more passing yards than Joe Montana and Tom Brady. He must be better, huh?
this argument of who is better has gotten so ridiculous. brady more superbwls manning more mvp's. there both increible players and two of the best you'll ever see.
manning is a better coach, but tom is a great QB. Also, all this talk about Tom being surrounded by a better team. If we're gonna talk about the colts this year, let's talk about the pats having arguably the worst defense in the league. Also receivers. Yes, they have wes, but their next reliable option is their tight end (who is awesome). But Tom certainly doesn't have wayne, clark, collie, tamme and garcon. Both are great, yet there's millions of hating comments about Brady. Don't get it.
@Ironman374 hmm....i gues thats why brady has 3 superbowls, manning only 2, also brady had a great Defense butreally no receivers to throw to on the offensive side. manning had reggie wayne, pierre garcon, dallas clark etc. brady is better. manning carried his team to the playoffs but choked there. in their loss to the saints in the superbowl he sealed the win for the saints when he threw that interception. bradyis great in the clutch and regular season.
@oreoluver2 Yes, Manning sure did carry his team, because they were nowhere near as good as the team Brady has, especially in the 2007 season when they cheated their way to the Super Bowl and blew it
@Ironman374 haha... if cheating your way to the superbowl means getting "caught" the first week of the season and then you win 18 straight, then yes, that sure is "cheating". nice logic.
@psychocity1963 lol haters gonna hate he makes millions 2 play football with an amazing wife and ur the 1 on youtube hating on ppl so ........ sounds more like ur the baby or bitch whichever u prefer
@Ironman374 look where brady has came from a 6th round draft pick who was told he would never go anywhere against someone who was handed everything bradys got heart and i dont think u realize tht heart drives a football player and makes him great and tom brady ALWAYS plays his heart out and bradys not yelling at anybody hes tryna pump his team up unlike wen manning got pissed at his lineman 4 sayin they need 2 run the ball more and cassel is an ok qbdont take tht away from him dont hate on brady
And the Pats only had to cheat to get those 3 rings. Guess old tom can't be that great if they had to film opposing team's calls. I'll take Big Ben and the Steelers any day - knockin' on 7's door!!!
You expect an NFL quarterback, nevermind the best NFL quarterback, to not every get angry? They always do ya dumbass! Brady has to knock some sense into his players
just shows how much the game means to brady. it doesnt show that he's a winey bitch that alot of you think. becuz of this he has 3 rings and becuz of this much emotion into the game, he is a legend
@ODOMAN123 yeahhhhhhhh becuz im sure other coaches havent done the same thing OR MAYBE RETARD they just havent gotten caught ur just another hater whos gonna hate on the pats u little bitch
@LynwoodAvenue have you heard of the Brady 6 the six QBs drafted before Tom Brady he was drafted in the 6 round so I don't think their always lookin for the best but if you think about it everyteam wants the best player who dumb enough to draft a trash person
The reason I hate the Patriots is because they just "Buy" their players, they don't really train bad players to become better. They just buy the good players right from the get-go
@LynwoodAvenue WTF !? they trained matt cassel, julian edleman,danny woodhead, laurence maroney,and the best one TOM BRADY. yeah. brady was a sixth roud pick. soo who has your team trained ?
There is a very, very clear distinction between this and the infamous Peyton video. "Are we gonna fight, or lay down??" vs. "I CALL THE PLAYS! BLOCK, JEFF, BLOCK!"
@ozzyrrv420 this was in 2005 when they got beat by the colts 40-21, i think you would be angry if your the quaterback and getting your ass kicked at home and having mutiple injuries on your team.
(1) Why would Goodell single out Belichick if he knew every other team was doing it? Before you answer, know that I'll want concrete evidence on your claims that Goodell had it out for the Pats and that all 31 other teams were doing it. I'll grant the Jets, so 30 more to go.
(3) That's insane. I'd bet even Brady would challenge that. A team that loses in the divisional playoffs has proven to be just as good as the Super Bowl champs? Nope.
(1) "Goodell wanted to punish Belichick." If you mean for some reason other than that Belichick broke league rules, then that's another totally unsubstantiated assertion.
(2) We're at an impasse. I do not believe sportsmanship and class are "questionable" at any level and you do.
(3) You say "not what I meant" but then go on to repeat exactly what I said you meant, that somehow the Pats were "as good a team" as the Super Bowl champs. The playoffs proved otherwise: 0-1 vs. 4-0.
(1) It's allowed but Goodell said we broke a rule. Okay. But I completely agree with your last statement here, that in not winning championships recently the Pats are just like every other team.
(2) I think it's classless. You don't. Soccer has nothing to do with it.
(3) Right again. That's how everyone will remember it. The Packers won the Super Bowl but the Pats won just as many games this year so really they were equally successful. Yep.
(1) "Every team does it?" Sorry, I'm calling unsubstantiated generalization. Their winning percentage may have risen, but they haven't won a championship since.
(2) This one is a subjective call. I think it's classless and you're not going to convince me otherwise. I can see you're equally dug in.
(3) Right. I remembering them winning this year. Right up till the playoffs started. Then they promptly lost to the Jets who lost to the Steelers who lost to the Packers.
And did you idiots ever think that maybe Brady yells at his teammates because it gets them straight. Did you watch the SNF against Shittsburgh when we tore them apart and Brady yelled at his line. He's proven he can do everything they can.
You ever think we run up opponents to make a statement? The reason people hate us is because we are the best team in NFL history and their team isn't.
@MrNiconano It's all about the championships. By that measure, the Patriots are the best team of the past decade, but they don't have much of a claim to the best in NFL history. The current Pats are 3-1 in championships games. But the 1980s-90s 49ers were 5-0. The 1970s Steelers were 4-0. The 1960s Packers were 5-0. The Pats have had an excellent run, but have fallen short of best ever.
and the fact that 90% of their wins are in dominating fashion. He's such a baby and how come no other quarterback can play like Tom Brady can in the snow. So what he went to a play the day of the jets/colts game. He's obviously going to watch the tape of the whole game. It wouldn't of been all that wise to watch the game that day anyway. Best thing would be after the game..watch the tape of it so that way he can focus on beating one team instead of two.
Why does everyone hate Tom Brady for? Because he has three rings and arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. The fact that many qb's wish they can be as great as him in the pocket. The fact that he is a multi millionare with a beautiful wife. He's passionate about the game he's a competitor and a great leader with confidence and determination. When Peyton( and no I don't hate Peyton Manning) yells at his team no1 says anything. Tom Brady has swagger which he should have.
@Foreverfighting711 It seems all Pats fans would chalk up the rest of the league's animosity to jealousy: "We're too successful and that's why they hate us." But there must be something else. When it comes to championships, the 49ers of the 80s/90s were just as successful -- excuse me, more successful -- and I don't recall anybody "hating" them. I think it's the Pats' arrogance, but it could be their cheating, their classless running up point totals, or their humorless approach to the game.
@Foreverfighting711 hate to be 'that' guy but i think the reason people honestly hate Tom Brady, is because Patriots fans are for the most part fair weather frat boy douches. Not all of them, but a lot of New Englanders have become almost more obnoxious than New Yorkers and that reflects on him. Had Brady played for any other team people would have liked him a lot more. (except for the cowboys lol)
@HartfordColonials I think fans of any dynasty become annoying bandwagoners because they start to feel their team is invincible. I mean, almost any dynasty in sports has been hated except for the dynastys fans because lets face it...unless your team is the dynasty, it gets old to see the same team win year after year. But as far as boston and new york fans, I think new york fans are the worst, especially yankees. The only fans that come close to the gayness of yankee fans are lakers fans.
@HartfordColonials I mean, the reason yankess and lakers fans are fucking annoying fags is because most of them are just bandwagon fans because they know they will see their team win a title once or twice a decade. Lakers fans will always get at least one title every 10 years, and yankees fans will get a couple titles over a decade. I know there are some true fans for both teams, but the bandwagoners far outnumber them. If you are a true yankees or lakers fan, thats cool.
@HartfordColonials But its like, dont become a fan just because the team has had success in the past, and you know you will never go on huge title droughts. If you are a fan of a certain team because you just want to say a team you cheer for has tons of titles and always wins, then you are not a true fan. Like me, I am a vikings, wild, twins, and t-wolves fan. How many titles have I gotten to see in my life time? I was only 2 when the twins won the title in 1991, so I have never
@HartfordColonials truly seen a title won by the cheer for. But I keep cheering for them. Why? Because I have pride in one team, and stick with them through the good AND the bad times. I think when you cheer for a team not for their history or titles but because you truly take pride in that team, when they win a title, it means so much more to you as a true fan than any fans that are bandwagoners. 1 title for a true fan is like 10 for a bandwagoner, because it just means so much more.
(1). He's arrogant. Watch the interview where he mocks the idea that the Pats will only score 17 points in the 2008 Super Bowl, plus where he snubs Eli Manning before the actual game.
(2). He's a big supporter of Bill Belichick, someone who cheats as a coach and is even more arrogant than Brady.
(3). He's shallow. He chooses trophy wives and girlfriends over those with real substance.
(4). He just plain comes off as an asshole. Period.
@danning1 so u saying u WOULDNT date giselle if you had the chance? please u fucking pussy you're only saying that shit because you're a fat fuck sitting at home on his computer with an ugly ass wife who according to you has "real substance". and in that video of him "mocking plaxico" all he does is chuckle when they say they'll score 17, WTF DO U EXPECT HIM TO DO? "oh yeah we suck plaxico is right" ? no dumbshit! he didnt even respond he just did the right thing and laughed it off! smd nigger!
@Foreverfighting711 because he won while cheating and he makes speeches about "laying down" implying a sexual joke about taking it up the butt. How would he like it if he was a homosexual? Yeah, he shouldn't be taking blows at gays, he looks bicurious to say the least.
@NoName1325 haha well just imagine this, every night ur no name nigger ass is sitting at home hating on the computer with your ugly ass girlfriend, hes fucking the shit out of giselle. smd and get off his dick niggerfaggot
@NoName1325 shut the fuck up white ass albino nigger i came straight from compton and made it out with a high paying job and my street cred so u can suck my fuckin dick nigger
@NoName1325 haha look at my pix on my profile boy, im as much of a nigger as they come. and why wouldnt someone outta compton be able to get a job? are you some kind of racist white prick? cuz ima haveta shoot yo bunk ass nigga. jk man im a dentist now i dont do that shooting shit anymore but 5 yrs ago............... watch out nig
People can talk all the shit they want, but Brady has talent and he's the man. You can't deny that, its factual information. And that's coming from a Giants fan. Sorry about that superbowl by the way gary.
@Foreverfighting711 uhm the hate mostly stems from all those years of spygate... no need to suck brady's dick that hard... but suck it, because you're a delusional, just not that hard man..
@plafonte he should of voiced his opinion over it rather make an ass out of himself and put patriot fans like me in a tough spot to defend such a disgusting segment in patriot franchise history..
@fatpatlives1998 lololololol how do u get in field goal range idiot? spygate was calling the right play vs the right offense or defense at it's weak spot moron, and that's how u get in range using spygate with ease... shame on you, ud rather be ok with your team cheating? bb admit it as did brady, why can't u live with it faggort?
@ODOMAN123 It's been proven that most teams if not all have done it, yu dont gain anything from it. They're still dominating YOUR team and everyone else that continue to hate on them.
@ODOMAN123 It's been proven that most teams if not all have done it, yu dont gain anything from it. They're still dominating YOUR team and everyone else that continue to hate on them.
@godchild006 ya dominate the dolphins lol and sandiego gj, two teams that blow.. im a pats fan myself, and i don't suck on their dicks for what they did... man up and acknowledge it.
@ODOMAN123 san diego absolutely does not blow. and yeah the pats defense isnt great at the moment but tom brady is still just as good as ever . and im also a pats fan
@ODOMAN123 my bad on that. Man enough to apologize. I misintepreted your comments bu I do have to disagree with you about the Dolphins and San Diego games though. San diego was the one number 1 defense last yr and held McNabb to 38yds passing. Dolphins were also ranked 6TH in pass defense. Nobody said you was sucking their dicks, homie...
@Foreverfighting711 I don't hate the guy, but I do feel he is quite overrated. Tom Brady's Patriots went 11-5 without him and Cassel as QB. To this day, that is still Cassel's best season. Manning has consistently carried his teams to the playoffs. Proof? They're 0-6 without him, and they still have ten games to play. When Brady loses, he's generally seen stomping off the field, which sets a bad example for the NFL and his teammates.
@Ironman374 Quite overrated? That is such BS. Brady has every single attribute that makes a great QB. First of all, he's BETTER in the playoffs. Championships. As a Bolt fan, I have been in the stands in the playoffs and watched him rip our hearts out- not unlike he did to the Cowboys' fans last week. He plays BETTER under pressure at the end of the game or when it matters most. He can read the defenses BETTER than almost any QB in the league and is the most accurate- maybe Rodgers. Get real.
@Ironman374 As for claiming Manning is better? He may be "more valuable" to his on-the-decline Colts than Brady was to the Cassell-led Patriots, but look at Cassell now.
Above all, Manning has only won a single Superbowl. Then look at Brady. That is the true measure of how good a QB is...not how bad your team sucks without out you.
Manning is more of a choker in the playoffs. I should know, I'm a Bolt fan and we choke all the time. The truth hurts.
@kmkfiction2 Look at Cassel now? He's average at best, and look what he did in New England. And you couldn't be more wrong with your Super Bowl analogy. The Super Bowl rings are a team effort. Brady never once carried the load on his back, he's always had the team to take HIM there, whereas Marino, Elway and Manning (mostly the first two) have always had to carry their teams. Elway was finally blessed with decent players, and won 2 straight Super Bowls and retired as MVP.
@Ironman374 I see that I am debating a Brady-hater and there is no point in wasting my time. NE's team carried Brady to all those titles? That is not only pure, subjective conjecture, I can't agree one bit. Aaron Rodgers is the only QB that is as accurate as Brady right now and he may be more so.
I actually played back up QB (was starting CB) in high school and have an appreciation for how calm and cool Brady is. I don't think it is fair for you to "quite underrate" this attribute.
There is absolutely and unequivocally ZERO evidence that such "intelligence" materially assisted the Patriots in winning Superbowls. There is testimony that many other teams (indeed, in many different sports) engaged and continue to engage in such practices. Either way, it would help the defense- I don't see how it affects Brady winning Superbowls...much less Manning choking in the playoffs.
@Ironman374 That proves nothing..Manning is a choke artist and that just proves how incompetant the Colts front office is for building their entire team around ONE player...wait til Peyton retires...the Colts will have the second ever 0-16 season
@InterstateUnion No shit. So you're saying Manning's team is 0-16 without him? What does that say about Peyton? That he's had to carry his team on his shoulders? That is accurate, but you're still claiming he's a choke artist? You can't be one if you don't have a great team. Brady's had one his entire career. Matt Cassel agrees. Let's see how far Brady goes with Manning's team. Not very.
Also, the biggest choke job in NFL history was cheating to 18 victories, then choking the Super Bowl.
@Ironman374 The colts have a way better recieving corp past and future...in the colts super bowl run he had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark, all potential HOF players, one of the best O-Lines in the league and one of the best backs in the league in Edgerrin James...Brady made his super bowls with no-names with the exception of randy moss...put brady on the colts with that many targets...the colts would be a juggernaut...and the Giants game including the helmet catch was dumb luck
@Ironman374 EVERY NFL TEAM CHEATS....dont be so naive...ever wonder why coaches hide their lips while speaking? the 1970 "Steel Curtain" era Steelers were roid monkeys...the Jets were caught videotaping in their game against the Pats...the Broncos cheated the salary cap to keep Terrell Davis and John Elway and Shannon Sharpe during their super bowl run...research your shit..and if anything videotaping the offense benefits the defense and doesnt help Brady at all
@InterstateUnion How stupid. Coaches hide their lips so their plays can't be revealed, for one thing. Another reason is to block the wind so the quarterback can hear the play they call. Roids weren't frowned upon in the 80s, the Jets did not video tape, and if any team cheated the salary cap, it is the Montana era 49ers.
@Ironman374 but not covering their lips enables cheating so it counts still lol...and I just used a more recent example..I like Brady better because he also had to work for he has (being pick number 199 in the 6th round, being 4th on the depth chart in the 2000 season, rising to prominence because of a Drew Bledsoe injury) rather than having everything given to him because of who his father was like Peyton...the conspiracy theorist in me wonders how Peyton wins then Eli wins immediately after...
@InterstateUnion Peyton was picked first overall because he was the highest prospect in college. He was simply far more successful in college than Brady. I choose Peyton, because in my opinion, it's not even a competition. The ring argument loses my ear because if it had any bearing on quarterback talent, Terry Bradshaw would be ranked among the best ever. But in reality, you'll never see him in a top 5 list. Or even top 10. Marino is ranked universally above Terry, and he's never won.... (cont)
@InterstateUnion (Cont).... a Super Bowl. Peyton's ability to read defenses is beyond incredible. He can mold an entire football team to fit his mind. This is why the Colts are 0-6 without him. Pats are 11-5 without Brady, and the Colts have already passed them in losses and still haven't won a game. That goes a long way, in my opinion. This is the same team that goes 14-2, 13-3, 12-4 consistently, every year. It's why he is my #3 QB all time.
@Ironman374 More successful in college? Peyton never won a championship in college and Brady made a comeback victory over alabama in the orange bowl...the 1st pick overall was again because of who his father was...The colts are 0-6 without Peyton because of a crumbling aging O-Line (that got peyton injured in the first place) , an aging crumbling running back (Joseph Addai is in his mid 30s) and a defense that is ranked 27th in the league
@InterstateUnion hahaha ur r a dumbass addai is in his 8th season he aint even 30 yet dumbass the only aging o line men is saturday so thats wrong also and even when peyton won a superbowl the defence was rank like 30th in the nfl so everything u said is a lie ur a fucking retard do research b4 u try n act smart douchebag the colts had the same team 2 years ago when the went 14-2 and made it to the super bowel accept for clint session and calvin hayden on d fence and they wernt that good
@Ironman374 Brady holds the record for touchdown passes in a season, pass attempts without an interception, total yards after three games in a season, unaimous MVP voting win, three Superbowl rings, two Superbowl MVPs, and led his team to a 16-0 regular season record in the NFL. To say he is overrated is about as ignorant a statement as you can get.
@Calbenmike Look at the team he had. Oh, and 16-0 is nothing when you can't win on the big stage against a 10-6 wild card team. Don't forget spygate. The total yards and pass att. w/o an INT are garbage stats. Half of those big passes were screen passes. Like the 99 yard touchdown screen to Wes Welker this season. He's been blessed with a glorious team and a brilliant coach who also knows how to cheat.
@Ironman374 blah, blah, blah, cheat, blah, blah. Typical hater. The Patriots got caught doing what every single NFL team has done, stealing signals. The Patriots were outcoached during the Superbowl, and the Giants had a couple of non calls go in their favor. You can call his accomplishments "garbage" all you want, but somehow I think if it was Peyton Manning or Drew Brees with the stats, you'd be singing a different story. Plain and simple, Brady is the best ever. Stats don't lie.
@Calbenmike Stats do not tell the whole picture. There's no disputing that. What's more impressive to you: A 30 yard touchdown pass thrown into the endzone under triple cover, or a 99 yard screen pass?
Cassel tarnished Brady's legacy with that 11-5 season. The Colts have lost 7 games already and are still winless. If they had Manning, they'd be 6-1 right now, at worst.
@Ironman374 I don't agree with your logic of Matt Cassel. Cassel had a great season primarily because he had a great coaching staff and a great team to play on. How has Cassel done since he left the Patriots? Lets hope he's not on your fantasy football team, put it that way. Tom Brady year in and year out plays hard, sets records, and makes it to the post season. Manning is good, but not as good as Brady IMO.
@Calbenmike But that is just the point I'm making. "Cassel had a great season because he had a great coaching staff and a great team to play on". Manning does not have a great coaching staff or team at all, and every year they're Super Bowl contenders? Speaks volume about his ability to take over a team. Something I've never seen Brady do. Ever.
@Ironman374 Manning doesn't have a great Coach? Tony Dungy wasn't a great coach? He doesn't have a great team to play on? Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark just to name a few aren't great players? Tom Brady for the first 5-6 seasons of his career didn't have a solid receiving core like Manning had with Wayne and Harrison and yet he still won three SB titles and two SB MVPs. He can call a game like no other QB and has proven himself over and over again of this fact.
@Ironman374 But see, Tom Brady can actually get his team THROUGH the playoffs lolz not just TO them. And the fact the patriots can get by without Brady shows they actually have a TEAM to fall back on, and not just a player. The colts shouldn't be losing so badly. Also what makes Brady so great is his stats before he became their started. The 6th round draft pick took the Patriots to the super bowl, not once but thrice and won. Peyton has only 1 ring. If anyone's overrated its Manning.
@mrsDee23 But see, Peyton Manning can actually get his team TO the Super Bowl, and has never went 0-8. That team is lost without him. You're only proving my point. Brady obviously has a better team around him. He's never relied to carry a team anywhere. Peyton has been since his rookie season, and has dragged them to two Super Bowls. With the Pats team he has, Brady can play hard and make it to a Super Bowl if he wanted. Peyton could coast with that team and be Super Bowl MVP.
was brady on on the rag this game ? xD
little pussy fag
knowhair 1 week ago
cuz he lost supah bowl, again
SUWBSWIBE 2 weeks ago
@richig761 Of course they were good, but they weren't great. They were serviceable. They did their job well. But ultimately they were no name guys. Scrubs if you will. And Brady made them better than they should have been. I don't think any WR other than Gaffney has made any other impact on another team in a way.
freakinfootball08 2 weeks ago
Do the giants fans just go to all the patriots videos and talk shit.....it's a game someone has to win and someone has to lose...I bet you the pats players are sleeping easy even though the lost...just saying
lup0330 3 weeks ago
Oh boy this guy is my hero -3
kolefski1234 4 weeks ago
u gotta admire his fighting spirit
gjergj124 4 weeks ago in playlist Tom Brady:)
....And something similar happened later that night in the locker room after the Patriots lost Super Bowl 46 .....
GameVidCentral 4 weeks ago
I'm glad he lost he and his wife seem like they are above the rest. hmmmm before he met her he won the super bowl after the marriage..NONE who should Mrs. Brady really blame..
cheyona24 1 month ago
@cheyona24 spygate for not being available anymore? k thnx. shhh.
TheRoflcopter2012 4 weeks ago
@TheRoflcopter2012 Tom Brady won super bowls before he was married. and after, NONE. How dare Mrs. Brady Gisele yell at his teammates for his loss, Maybe she should look within herself for the answer of his losing...Married to her seems like too much stress and he seems to yell just as much as that Super Model does herself, Well there is one Super named thing this year again, in the Brady Household....
cheyona24 4 weeks ago
@cheyona24 fags like you blame women for everything...
TheRoflcopter2012 2 weeks ago
@TheRoflcopter2012
YOU NITWIT I'm female...lol @ U
cheyona24 2 weeks ago
Are you kidding? He's riling up the troops, not flipping out on them. Takes energy and passion to get a team motivated when you're losing.
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calebc5555 1 month ago
NERD RAGE.
hahha wut a fucking pussy. glad hes not on the colts
Kino483 1 month ago
@Kino483 Your Team aint Shit either!!! You want a team with rage go against the STEELERS!!!!
102988094 1 month ago
@102988094 yeah, roid rage...as in STEROIDS,
MrMferg240 1 month ago
@MrMferg240 Name one player that has been on steroids???
102988094 1 month ago
@102988094 ''false glory'' the steve courson story. get a vcopy and read it. the superbowl steelers of the 70's were CHEATERS.
MrMferg240 1 month ago
Shut the fuck up brady u puddy
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ardelle1989 1 month ago
Brady and Manning are like this cause they're like their fans, they want to win and they care more than anyone else. These are two of the greatest qb's to ever play the game and it's the fire that burns inside them like shown here that drives them to be great.
vfgjhj 1 month ago
LETS GO RAMS
bigbadlizardful 1 month ago
@bigbadlizardful haha yea...ok....
TradingCarz 1 month ago
10 years ago everyone was rooting for the underdog pats, now it seems like we're the most despised team in football. Sorry for winning everybody.
dempsjld 1 month ago
I'm not a Pats fan, but i'm not a bangwaggon jumper either. But your right, and you have the right to boast. 3 Super Bowls in the last 11 years, ain't nobody fucking with ya'll. And that's the truth.....
T82486 1 month ago
@dempsjld to be despised in the nfl is a good thing. it means you have accomplished so many great things other fans are haters and jealous, when the patriots sucked they were irrelevant, and that;s a bad thing.
MrMferg240 1 month ago
@Ironman374 how the hell is it cheating if everyteam does it? bill cowher and jimmy johnson admit to doing that. 2 of the greatest coaches of all time. also if they were caught,how could they have "cheated" the rest of the season seeing as if they were "cheating" and caught wouldnt the nfl have had them under close supervision? if not then i guess they weren't really "cheating".
oreoluver2 2 months ago
@Ironman374 you keep saying the pats cheated their way to 18-0 but they got caught in the pre-season then crushed every team they faced. also the giants may have been the lowest wildcard seed but they had one of the best defenses.but like stopreplyingbk said every team does what the pats did and even worse. also if bradys defense could actually give him help and sack eli before he makes that throw and that guy with the miracle catch. obviously youre afan who hates brady cause hes not on ur team.
oreoluver2 2 months ago
@oreoluver2 By that logic, I would hate Peyton Manning, too. Since neither of those players are on my favorite team, or even in my division.
Also, no. they got caught in the first game, and were suspected of cheating throughout the entire season, even in the playoffs.
Ironman374 2 months ago
@Ironman374 Goodel said no advantaged was gained. Also that rule of where the "cheating" came into effect came AFTER the 2005 season. So anything before that was legal. Also, the rule was about camera placement, no stealing any signal calls.
freakinfootball08 2 months ago
@Ironman374 also brady never choked in a superbowl. manning cost his team the superbowl against the saints by throwing that interception.
oreoluver2 2 months ago
@oreoluver2 Brady never choked in a Super Bowl? He cheated his way to 18-0 and couldn't even muster enough offense to beat the lowest Wild Card seed.
Ironman374 2 months ago
@Ironman374 brady had the better team? on defense that might be true but on offense brady only had welker and branch. who arent even deep threats. look what happened when he got moss, he was unstoppable. imagine what bradys stats would be if he had moss or some other deep threat throughout his career. just shows how good brady is and how overrated peyton is who had a great receiving core his whole career. brady-3 superbowls with bad receivers,manning-1 superbowl great receivers.
oreoluver2 2 months ago
@Ironman374 Tom Brady... Peyton Manning.... even just saying the name tom sounds better... Matt Cassel isnt a bad quarterback cmon he in KC what can ya do? but hes still putting up better stats than that year, K and now look at indy's quarterback so far...lets get real there going nowhere in the NFL.... Oh and did i forget to mention Tom Brady is on pace to break both records for yards and thrown touchdowns.. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK
alotcoolerthanyou 2 months ago
@alotcoolerthanyou He's playing in a much more passer friendly system, so it's bound to get broken. Is it coincidence that Marino's records weren't even close to being touched until now, where there are 3 or 4 quarterbacks capable of it? No. He passed 5,000 during a time where 4,000 is almost unheard of. And with the receivers he had? But I'll bite and play stats. Kerry Collins has more passing yards than Joe Montana and Tom Brady. He must be better, huh?
Stats don't tell the whole story, kid
Ironman374 2 months ago
this argument of who is better has gotten so ridiculous. brady more superbwls manning more mvp's. there both increible players and two of the best you'll ever see.
electivire1001 3 months ago
manning is a better coach, but tom is a great QB. Also, all this talk about Tom being surrounded by a better team. If we're gonna talk about the colts this year, let's talk about the pats having arguably the worst defense in the league. Also receivers. Yes, they have wes, but their next reliable option is their tight end (who is awesome). But Tom certainly doesn't have wayne, clark, collie, tamme and garcon. Both are great, yet there's millions of hating comments about Brady. Don't get it.
ericjcorriea 3 months ago
@Ironman374 hmm....i gues thats why brady has 3 superbowls, manning only 2, also brady had a great Defense butreally no receivers to throw to on the offensive side. manning had reggie wayne, pierre garcon, dallas clark etc. brady is better. manning carried his team to the playoffs but choked there. in their loss to the saints in the superbowl he sealed the win for the saints when he threw that interception. bradyis great in the clutch and regular season.
oreoluver2 3 months ago
@oreoluver2 Yes, Manning sure did carry his team, because they were nowhere near as good as the team Brady has, especially in the 2007 season when they cheated their way to the Super Bowl and blew it
Ironman374 3 months ago
@Ironman374 haha... if cheating your way to the superbowl means getting "caught" the first week of the season and then you win 18 straight, then yes, that sure is "cheating". nice logic.
VegitoBlitz24 2 months ago
What a sulky baby.
pentherapy 3 months ago
Eyyy that Gatorade costs $1.99
Cscottrun53 3 months ago
@MrSemi009 LMFAO hes not even in the running 4 one of the best in the game lol he might not even be in top ten qb's in the nfl right now
thtkidnick7 3 months ago
@psychocity1963 lol haters gonna hate he makes millions 2 play football with an amazing wife and ur the 1 on youtube hating on ppl so ........ sounds more like ur the baby or bitch whichever u prefer
thtkidnick7 3 months ago
@Ironman374 look where brady has came from a 6th round draft pick who was told he would never go anywhere against someone who was handed everything bradys got heart and i dont think u realize tht heart drives a football player and makes him great and tom brady ALWAYS plays his heart out and bradys not yelling at anybody hes tryna pump his team up unlike wen manning got pissed at his lineman 4 sayin they need 2 run the ball more and cassel is an ok qbdont take tht away from him dont hate on brady
thtkidnick7 3 months ago
He always slams gatorade bottles to the ground when he's upset.
lpycb42 3 months ago
bahahahahaha...baby brady.
psychocity1963 3 months ago
whenever hes angry he throws gatorade
aweinster2 4 months ago
looks like some ones tampon is stuck
murderface1980 4 months ago
Tom Brady said kiss his 600 super bowl rings
USARMYARTILLERY1 4 months ago
sorry to bust everyone's bubble but.. The "Brady, Manning" era is over. It was fun while it lasted
rlephew111 4 months ago
@rlephew111 Do note that Brady and Manning are still doing great, but they'll never be as good.
mrsDee23 4 months ago
@MegaSportsTroll
That's a dumb statement...that was bradys record THREE YEARS ago, colts r doing bad WITHOUT Manning...peyton is much better
amabob0 4 months ago
The last time "Brady" won the Superbowl was 2005. It's 2011.
EOFFJM 4 months ago
Tom Brady would have 0 rings if he'd been the quarterback for the Colts.
Ironman374 4 months ago
did you record this with a razor?
brookstoneplace69 4 months ago
And the Pats only had to cheat to get those 3 rings. Guess old tom can't be that great if they had to film opposing team's calls. I'll take Big Ben and the Steelers any day - knockin' on 7's door!!!
horseangels 4 months ago
Wat a looser
cristophercha 5 months ago
I'll take Tom Brady on my team any day.
JawsJaws 5 months ago
You're EXACTLY right @Foreverfighting711.
13jansport 5 months ago
who drank all the danm gatorade!
jw1000ify 5 months ago
You expect an NFL quarterback, nevermind the best NFL quarterback, to not every get angry? They always do ya dumbass! Brady has to knock some sense into his players
SeaNannersMother 5 months ago
@MrSemi009 why do you have too go for the worst of the manning bros it's all about Peyton
AnimationsKTL 5 months ago
Brady sucks, Eli baby!!
MrSemi009 5 months ago
Tom Brady went off for 500+ yards, maybe another chance to redeem themselves!~
reneperezz 5 months ago
just shows how much the game means to brady. it doesnt show that he's a winey bitch that alot of you think. becuz of this he has 3 rings and becuz of this much emotion into the game, he is a legend
NewEnglandDynasty12 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 yeahhhhhhhh becuz im sure other coaches havent done the same thing OR MAYBE RETARD they just havent gotten caught ur just another hater whos gonna hate on the pats u little bitch
thtkidnick7 6 months ago
@LynwoodAvenue have you heard of the Brady 6 the six QBs drafted before Tom Brady he was drafted in the 6 round so I don't think their always lookin for the best but if you think about it everyteam wants the best player who dumb enough to draft a trash person
JOK3RC4RDx 6 months ago
The reason I hate the Patriots is because they just "Buy" their players, they don't really train bad players to become better. They just buy the good players right from the get-go
LynwoodAvenue 6 months ago
@LynwoodAvenue WTF !? they trained matt cassel, julian edleman,danny woodhead, laurence maroney,and the best one TOM BRADY. yeah. brady was a sixth roud pick. soo who has your team trained ?
WWF4lyfe2010 6 months ago
@WWF4lyfe2010 I'm from canada, EHHHHHH
LynwoodAvenue 6 months ago
@LynwoodAvenue dumbass. dont say shit if you dont know what your talkin about.
WWF4lyfe2010 6 months ago
@WWF4lyfe2010 I guess we all know who gets all worked up over a game..... I would never want to have a gym class with you....
LynwoodAvenue 6 months ago
@LynwoodAvenue nah, just when people say dumb shit bout my team that took forever to get where there at.
WWF4lyfe2010 6 months ago
you mad bro?
zoroz111 6 months ago
bro umad?
cokare15 7 months ago
I understand him "We got laid down " lol
capoeiraraven 7 months ago
There is a very, very clear distinction between this and the infamous Peyton video. "Are we gonna fight, or lay down??" vs. "I CALL THE PLAYS! BLOCK, JEFF, BLOCK!"
jlaf27 8 months ago
Get back in the kitchen Tom
miah022 8 months ago
someone needs to change their tampon
TheRoflcopter3000 9 months ago
he is slamming a water bottle, he mad and throwing a hissy fit
metalmilitia1890 10 months ago
u mad?
metalmilitia1890 10 months ago
is it that frustrating when you cant cheat any more i mean for gods sake hes acting like he lost a chance at an undefeated super bowl lol GO GIANTS
ozzyrrv420 1 year ago
@ozzyrrv420 this was in 2005 when they got beat by the colts 40-21, i think you would be angry if your the quaterback and getting your ass kicked at home and having mutiple injuries on your team.
DrSanto91 10 months ago
@Hampsey83
(1) Why would Goodell single out Belichick if he knew every other team was doing it? Before you answer, know that I'll want concrete evidence on your claims that Goodell had it out for the Pats and that all 31 other teams were doing it. I'll grant the Jets, so 30 more to go.
(3) That's insane. I'd bet even Brady would challenge that. A team that loses in the divisional playoffs has proven to be just as good as the Super Bowl champs? Nope.
andan04 1 year ago
@Hampsey83
(1) "Goodell wanted to punish Belichick." If you mean for some reason other than that Belichick broke league rules, then that's another totally unsubstantiated assertion.
(2) We're at an impasse. I do not believe sportsmanship and class are "questionable" at any level and you do.
(3) You say "not what I meant" but then go on to repeat exactly what I said you meant, that somehow the Pats were "as good a team" as the Super Bowl champs. The playoffs proved otherwise: 0-1 vs. 4-0.
andan04 1 year ago
@Hampsey83
(1) It's allowed but Goodell said we broke a rule. Okay. But I completely agree with your last statement here, that in not winning championships recently the Pats are just like every other team.
(2) I think it's classless. You don't. Soccer has nothing to do with it.
(3) Right again. That's how everyone will remember it. The Packers won the Super Bowl but the Pats won just as many games this year so really they were equally successful. Yep.
andan04 1 year ago
@Hampsey83
(1) "Every team does it?" Sorry, I'm calling unsubstantiated generalization. Their winning percentage may have risen, but they haven't won a championship since.
(2) This one is a subjective call. I think it's classless and you're not going to convince me otherwise. I can see you're equally dug in.
(3) Right. I remembering them winning this year. Right up till the playoffs started. Then they promptly lost to the Jets who lost to the Steelers who lost to the Packers.
andan04 1 year ago
And did you idiots ever think that maybe Brady yells at his teammates because it gets them straight. Did you watch the SNF against Shittsburgh when we tore them apart and Brady yelled at his line. He's proven he can do everything they can.
MrNiconano 1 year ago
@andan4
You ever think we run up opponents to make a statement? The reason people hate us is because we are the best team in NFL history and their team isn't.
MrNiconano 1 year ago
@MrNiconano It's all about the championships. By that measure, the Patriots are the best team of the past decade, but they don't have much of a claim to the best in NFL history. The current Pats are 3-1 in championships games. But the 1980s-90s 49ers were 5-0. The 1970s Steelers were 4-0. The 1960s Packers were 5-0. The Pats have had an excellent run, but have fallen short of best ever.
andan04 1 year ago
QB's yell at their team all the time. So what?
richig761 1 year ago
Problem, Patriots?
MrSleepinSloth 1 year ago
and the fact that 90% of their wins are in dominating fashion. He's such a baby and how come no other quarterback can play like Tom Brady can in the snow. So what he went to a play the day of the jets/colts game. He's obviously going to watch the tape of the whole game. It wouldn't of been all that wise to watch the game that day anyway. Best thing would be after the game..watch the tape of it so that way he can focus on beating one team instead of two.
Foreverfighting711 1 year ago
Why does everyone hate Tom Brady for? Because he has three rings and arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. The fact that many qb's wish they can be as great as him in the pocket. The fact that he is a multi millionare with a beautiful wife. He's passionate about the game he's a competitor and a great leader with confidence and determination. When Peyton( and no I don't hate Peyton Manning) yells at his team no1 says anything. Tom Brady has swagger which he should have.
Foreverfighting711 1 year ago 24
@Foreverfighting711 It seems all Pats fans would chalk up the rest of the league's animosity to jealousy: "We're too successful and that's why they hate us." But there must be something else. When it comes to championships, the 49ers of the 80s/90s were just as successful -- excuse me, more successful -- and I don't recall anybody "hating" them. I think it's the Pats' arrogance, but it could be their cheating, their classless running up point totals, or their humorless approach to the game.
andan04 1 year ago
@Foreverfighting711 hate to be 'that' guy but i think the reason people honestly hate Tom Brady, is because Patriots fans are for the most part fair weather frat boy douches. Not all of them, but a lot of New Englanders have become almost more obnoxious than New Yorkers and that reflects on him. Had Brady played for any other team people would have liked him a lot more. (except for the cowboys lol)
HartfordColonials 7 months ago
@HartfordColonials I think fans of any dynasty become annoying bandwagoners because they start to feel their team is invincible. I mean, almost any dynasty in sports has been hated except for the dynastys fans because lets face it...unless your team is the dynasty, it gets old to see the same team win year after year. But as far as boston and new york fans, I think new york fans are the worst, especially yankees. The only fans that come close to the gayness of yankee fans are lakers fans.
metathus 7 months ago
@HartfordColonials I mean, the reason yankess and lakers fans are fucking annoying fags is because most of them are just bandwagon fans because they know they will see their team win a title once or twice a decade. Lakers fans will always get at least one title every 10 years, and yankees fans will get a couple titles over a decade. I know there are some true fans for both teams, but the bandwagoners far outnumber them. If you are a true yankees or lakers fan, thats cool.
metathus 7 months ago
@HartfordColonials But its like, dont become a fan just because the team has had success in the past, and you know you will never go on huge title droughts. If you are a fan of a certain team because you just want to say a team you cheer for has tons of titles and always wins, then you are not a true fan. Like me, I am a vikings, wild, twins, and t-wolves fan. How many titles have I gotten to see in my life time? I was only 2 when the twins won the title in 1991, so I have never
metathus 7 months ago
@HartfordColonials truly seen a title won by the cheer for. But I keep cheering for them. Why? Because I have pride in one team, and stick with them through the good AND the bad times. I think when you cheer for a team not for their history or titles but because you truly take pride in that team, when they win a title, it means so much more to you as a true fan than any fans that are bandwagoners. 1 title for a true fan is like 10 for a bandwagoner, because it just means so much more.
metathus 7 months ago
@HartfordColonials well, thats my rant for the day, thanks for listening, ahah. I am a bit drunk so I tend to ramble on.
metathus 7 months ago
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@Foreverfighting711 because he cheated........
NoName1325 7 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 yeah manning teammates do say sumthing back
alphadude159 7 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 says the patriots fan....
itsgordonyadigg 7 months ago
@Foreverfighting711
(1). He's arrogant. Watch the interview where he mocks the idea that the Pats will only score 17 points in the 2008 Super Bowl, plus where he snubs Eli Manning before the actual game.
(2). He's a big supporter of Bill Belichick, someone who cheats as a coach and is even more arrogant than Brady.
(3). He's shallow. He chooses trophy wives and girlfriends over those with real substance.
(4). He just plain comes off as an asshole. Period.
danning1 7 months ago
@danning1 1. eli was just patting his back and tom nodded at him.
2. most of the time when a qb is disobedient to a coach it never ends well
3. you shouldn't judge his personal life or his relationships when you nothing about him or his marriage.
4. well thats just your opinion
plafonte 6 months ago
@danning1 so u saying u WOULDNT date giselle if you had the chance? please u fucking pussy you're only saying that shit because you're a fat fuck sitting at home on his computer with an ugly ass wife who according to you has "real substance". and in that video of him "mocking plaxico" all he does is chuckle when they say they'll score 17, WTF DO U EXPECT HIM TO DO? "oh yeah we suck plaxico is right" ? no dumbshit! he didnt even respond he just did the right thing and laughed it off! smd nigger!
LittlerBNigga 6 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 because he won while cheating and he makes speeches about "laying down" implying a sexual joke about taking it up the butt. How would he like it if he was a homosexual? Yeah, he shouldn't be taking blows at gays, he looks bicurious to say the least.
NoName1325 7 months ago
@NoName1325 haha well just imagine this, every night ur no name nigger ass is sitting at home hating on the computer with your ugly ass girlfriend, hes fucking the shit out of giselle. smd and get off his dick niggerfaggot
LittlerBNigga 6 months ago
@LittlerBNigga ur mad bro and ur the one sucking his dick for saying he has swagger u must touch urself every night over him.
NoName1325 6 months ago
@NoName1325 fuck a goat nigga cuz dat all da action u finna get lmao lame nigger
LittlerBNigga 6 months ago
@LittlerBNigga ur a wigger
NoName1325 6 months ago
@NoName1325 shut the fuck up white ass albino nigger i came straight from compton and made it out with a high paying job and my street cred so u can suck my fuckin dick nigger
LittlerBNigga 6 months ago
@LittlerBNigga yeah Compton alright just like NWA that's what all the gangsters do they get good jobs and go troll people on youtube. WIGGER!!!!!!!!!
NoName1325 6 months ago
@NoName1325 haha look at my pix on my profile boy, im as much of a nigger as they come. and why wouldnt someone outta compton be able to get a job? are you some kind of racist white prick? cuz ima haveta shoot yo bunk ass nigga. jk man im a dentist now i dont do that shooting shit anymore but 5 yrs ago............... watch out nig
LittlerBNigga 6 months ago
@LittlerBNigga wigger
NoName1325 6 months ago
@Foreverfighting711
People can talk all the shit they want, but Brady has talent and he's the man. You can't deny that, its factual information. And that's coming from a Giants fan. Sorry about that superbowl by the way gary.
FourthOsprey 6 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 Best QB of all time my ass
Vxy55 6 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 uhm the hate mostly stems from all those years of spygate... no need to suck brady's dick that hard... but suck it, because you're a delusional, just not that hard man..
ODOMAN123 6 months ago 8
@ODOMAN123 you shouldn't blame brady for spygate he wasn't the one responsible for it
plafonte 6 months ago
@plafonte he should of voiced his opinion over it rather make an ass out of himself and put patriot fans like me in a tough spot to defend such a disgusting segment in patriot franchise history..
ODOMAN123 6 months ago
@ODOMAN123 spygate didnt win super bowls..every one seems to forget the colts had listening devices in the stadium as well !
fatpatlives1998 5 months ago
@fatpatlives1998 hey fag, i'm a patriot fan too.. i have balls big enough to gag ur momma and admit they cheated yay now ur mad..
ODOMAN123 5 months ago
@ODOMAN123 my mom? must be a teenage child...spygate did not win super bowls..2 out of the 3 where decided by field goals !
fatpatlives1998 5 months ago
@fatpatlives1998 lololololol how do u get in field goal range idiot? spygate was calling the right play vs the right offense or defense at it's weak spot moron, and that's how u get in range using spygate with ease... shame on you, ud rather be ok with your team cheating? bb admit it as did brady, why can't u live with it faggort?
ODOMAN123 5 months ago
@ODOMAN123 It's been proven that most teams if not all have done it, yu dont gain anything from it. They're still dominating YOUR team and everyone else that continue to hate on them.
godchild006 5 months ago
@ODOMAN123 It's been proven that most teams if not all have done it, yu dont gain anything from it. They're still dominating YOUR team and everyone else that continue to hate on them.
godchild006 5 months ago
@godchild006 ya dominate the dolphins lol and sandiego gj, two teams that blow.. im a pats fan myself, and i don't suck on their dicks for what they did... man up and acknowledge it.
ODOMAN123 5 months ago
@ODOMAN123 san diego absolutely does not blow. and yeah the pats defense isnt great at the moment but tom brady is still just as good as ever . and im also a pats fan
RageOfAngels1000 5 months ago
@ODOMAN123 my bad on that. Man enough to apologize. I misintepreted your comments bu I do have to disagree with you about the Dolphins and San Diego games though. San diego was the one number 1 defense last yr and held McNabb to 38yds passing. Dolphins were also ranked 6TH in pass defense. Nobody said you was sucking their dicks, homie...
godchild006 5 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 can't forget cheater
SmellsLikeDarkside 6 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 how does tom bradys dick feel from up there? hop off faggot.
dixonMYass 6 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 umadbro?
lol4481 5 months ago
@lol4481 ugaybro?
shreddedmcwheat 5 months ago
@shreddedmcwheat LMFAO!!
MaddenGamingHD 4 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 also when Tom Brady goes down cause of injury, his team can win and make the playoffs...
dollarstorePWNRlol 5 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 peyton manning doesnt wish he was tom brady.
stangsaleens7 5 months ago
@Foreverfighting711 I don't hate the guy, but I do feel he is quite overrated. Tom Brady's Patriots went 11-5 without him and Cassel as QB. To this day, that is still Cassel's best season. Manning has consistently carried his teams to the playoffs. Proof? They're 0-6 without him, and they still have ten games to play. When Brady loses, he's generally seen stomping off the field, which sets a bad example for the NFL and his teammates.
Manning > Brady ANY day.
Also, not a fan of either team.
Ironman374 4 months ago 19
@Ironman374 Quite overrated? That is such BS. Brady has every single attribute that makes a great QB. First of all, he's BETTER in the playoffs. Championships. As a Bolt fan, I have been in the stands in the playoffs and watched him rip our hearts out- not unlike he did to the Cowboys' fans last week. He plays BETTER under pressure at the end of the game or when it matters most. He can read the defenses BETTER than almost any QB in the league and is the most accurate- maybe Rodgers. Get real.
kmkfiction2 4 months ago
@Ironman374 As for claiming Manning is better? He may be "more valuable" to his on-the-decline Colts than Brady was to the Cassell-led Patriots, but look at Cassell now.
Above all, Manning has only won a single Superbowl. Then look at Brady. That is the true measure of how good a QB is...not how bad your team sucks without out you.
Manning is more of a choker in the playoffs. I should know, I'm a Bolt fan and we choke all the time. The truth hurts.
kmkfiction2 4 months ago
@kmkfiction2 Look at Cassel now? He's average at best, and look what he did in New England. And you couldn't be more wrong with your Super Bowl analogy. The Super Bowl rings are a team effort. Brady never once carried the load on his back, he's always had the team to take HIM there, whereas Marino, Elway and Manning (mostly the first two) have always had to carry their teams. Elway was finally blessed with decent players, and won 2 straight Super Bowls and retired as MVP.
Don't forget spygate
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 I see that I am debating a Brady-hater and there is no point in wasting my time. NE's team carried Brady to all those titles? That is not only pure, subjective conjecture, I can't agree one bit. Aaron Rodgers is the only QB that is as accurate as Brady right now and he may be more so.
I actually played back up QB (was starting CB) in high school and have an appreciation for how calm and cool Brady is. I don't think it is fair for you to "quite underrate" this attribute.
kmkfiction2 4 months ago
@Ironman374 As for "Spygate", get over it.
There is absolutely and unequivocally ZERO evidence that such "intelligence" materially assisted the Patriots in winning Superbowls. There is testimony that many other teams (indeed, in many different sports) engaged and continue to engage in such practices. Either way, it would help the defense- I don't see how it affects Brady winning Superbowls...much less Manning choking in the playoffs.
kmkfiction2 4 months ago
@Ironman374 That proves nothing..Manning is a choke artist and that just proves how incompetant the Colts front office is for building their entire team around ONE player...wait til Peyton retires...the Colts will have the second ever 0-16 season
InterstateUnion 4 months ago
@InterstateUnion No shit. So you're saying Manning's team is 0-16 without him? What does that say about Peyton? That he's had to carry his team on his shoulders? That is accurate, but you're still claiming he's a choke artist? You can't be one if you don't have a great team. Brady's had one his entire career. Matt Cassel agrees. Let's see how far Brady goes with Manning's team. Not very.
Also, the biggest choke job in NFL history was cheating to 18 victories, then choking the Super Bowl.
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 The colts have a way better recieving corp past and future...in the colts super bowl run he had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Dallas Clark, all potential HOF players, one of the best O-Lines in the league and one of the best backs in the league in Edgerrin James...Brady made his super bowls with no-names with the exception of randy moss...put brady on the colts with that many targets...the colts would be a juggernaut...and the Giants game including the helmet catch was dumb luck
InterstateUnion 4 months ago
@Ironman374 EVERY NFL TEAM CHEATS....dont be so naive...ever wonder why coaches hide their lips while speaking? the 1970 "Steel Curtain" era Steelers were roid monkeys...the Jets were caught videotaping in their game against the Pats...the Broncos cheated the salary cap to keep Terrell Davis and John Elway and Shannon Sharpe during their super bowl run...research your shit..and if anything videotaping the offense benefits the defense and doesnt help Brady at all
InterstateUnion 4 months ago
@InterstateUnion How stupid. Coaches hide their lips so their plays can't be revealed, for one thing. Another reason is to block the wind so the quarterback can hear the play they call. Roids weren't frowned upon in the 80s, the Jets did not video tape, and if any team cheated the salary cap, it is the Montana era 49ers.
You're telling me to research? :p
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 but not covering their lips enables cheating so it counts still lol...and I just used a more recent example..I like Brady better because he also had to work for he has (being pick number 199 in the 6th round, being 4th on the depth chart in the 2000 season, rising to prominence because of a Drew Bledsoe injury) rather than having everything given to him because of who his father was like Peyton...the conspiracy theorist in me wonders how Peyton wins then Eli wins immediately after...
InterstateUnion 4 months ago
@InterstateUnion Peyton was picked first overall because he was the highest prospect in college. He was simply far more successful in college than Brady. I choose Peyton, because in my opinion, it's not even a competition. The ring argument loses my ear because if it had any bearing on quarterback talent, Terry Bradshaw would be ranked among the best ever. But in reality, you'll never see him in a top 5 list. Or even top 10. Marino is ranked universally above Terry, and he's never won.... (cont)
Ironman374 4 months ago
@InterstateUnion (Cont).... a Super Bowl. Peyton's ability to read defenses is beyond incredible. He can mold an entire football team to fit his mind. This is why the Colts are 0-6 without him. Pats are 11-5 without Brady, and the Colts have already passed them in losses and still haven't won a game. That goes a long way, in my opinion. This is the same team that goes 14-2, 13-3, 12-4 consistently, every year. It's why he is my #3 QB all time.
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 More successful in college? Peyton never won a championship in college and Brady made a comeback victory over alabama in the orange bowl...the 1st pick overall was again because of who his father was...The colts are 0-6 without Peyton because of a crumbling aging O-Line (that got peyton injured in the first place) , an aging crumbling running back (Joseph Addai is in his mid 30s) and a defense that is ranked 27th in the league
InterstateUnion 4 months ago
@InterstateUnion hahaha ur r a dumbass addai is in his 8th season he aint even 30 yet dumbass the only aging o line men is saturday so thats wrong also and even when peyton won a superbowl the defence was rank like 30th in the nfl so everything u said is a lie ur a fucking retard do research b4 u try n act smart douchebag the colts had the same team 2 years ago when the went 14-2 and made it to the super bowel accept for clint session and calvin hayden on d fence and they wernt that good
mustangcobra401 4 months ago
@Ironman374 Brady holds the record for touchdown passes in a season, pass attempts without an interception, total yards after three games in a season, unaimous MVP voting win, three Superbowl rings, two Superbowl MVPs, and led his team to a 16-0 regular season record in the NFL. To say he is overrated is about as ignorant a statement as you can get.
Calbenmike 4 months ago
@Calbenmike Look at the team he had. Oh, and 16-0 is nothing when you can't win on the big stage against a 10-6 wild card team. Don't forget spygate. The total yards and pass att. w/o an INT are garbage stats. Half of those big passes were screen passes. Like the 99 yard touchdown screen to Wes Welker this season. He's been blessed with a glorious team and a brilliant coach who also knows how to cheat.
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 blah, blah, blah, cheat, blah, blah. Typical hater. The Patriots got caught doing what every single NFL team has done, stealing signals. The Patriots were outcoached during the Superbowl, and the Giants had a couple of non calls go in their favor. You can call his accomplishments "garbage" all you want, but somehow I think if it was Peyton Manning or Drew Brees with the stats, you'd be singing a different story. Plain and simple, Brady is the best ever. Stats don't lie.
Calbenmike 4 months ago
@Calbenmike Stats do not tell the whole picture. There's no disputing that. What's more impressive to you: A 30 yard touchdown pass thrown into the endzone under triple cover, or a 99 yard screen pass?
Cassel tarnished Brady's legacy with that 11-5 season. The Colts have lost 7 games already and are still winless. If they had Manning, they'd be 6-1 right now, at worst.
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 I don't agree with your logic of Matt Cassel. Cassel had a great season primarily because he had a great coaching staff and a great team to play on. How has Cassel done since he left the Patriots? Lets hope he's not on your fantasy football team, put it that way. Tom Brady year in and year out plays hard, sets records, and makes it to the post season. Manning is good, but not as good as Brady IMO.
Calbenmike 4 months ago
@Calbenmike But that is just the point I'm making. "Cassel had a great season because he had a great coaching staff and a great team to play on". Manning does not have a great coaching staff or team at all, and every year they're Super Bowl contenders? Speaks volume about his ability to take over a team. Something I've never seen Brady do. Ever.
Ironman374 4 months ago
@Ironman374 Manning doesn't have a great Coach? Tony Dungy wasn't a great coach? He doesn't have a great team to play on? Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark just to name a few aren't great players? Tom Brady for the first 5-6 seasons of his career didn't have a solid receiving core like Manning had with Wayne and Harrison and yet he still won three SB titles and two SB MVPs. He can call a game like no other QB and has proven himself over and over again of this fact.
Calbenmike 4 months ago
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"The Colts have lost 7 games already and are still winless. If they had Manning, they'd be 6-1 right now, at worst."
Is Manning going to play defense too? The mediocre Saints put up 62!!!
kmkfiction2 4 months ago
@Ironman374 But see, Tom Brady can actually get his team THROUGH the playoffs lolz not just TO them. And the fact the patriots can get by without Brady shows they actually have a TEAM to fall back on, and not just a player. The colts shouldn't be losing so badly. Also what makes Brady so great is his stats before he became their started. The 6th round draft pick took the Patriots to the super bowl, not once but thrice and won. Peyton has only 1 ring. If anyone's overrated its Manning.
mrsDee23 4 months ago
@mrsDee23 But see, Peyton Manning can actually get his team TO the Super Bowl, and has never went 0-8. That team is lost without him. You're only proving my point. Brady obviously has a better team around him. He's never relied to carry a team anywhere. Peyton has been since his rookie season, and has dragged them to two Super Bowls. With the Pats team he has, Brady can play hard and make it to a Super Bowl if he wanted. Peyton could coast with that team and be Super Bowl MVP.
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