I was in the 2000 competition as the only striker on the floor :) (ahh the apprentice years!!!). At that time the competitions was separted (farrier competition ran 9 days, blacksmithing competition was during one of those days). Now the farriers can pick up extra points if they enter the blacksmithing tourney. We placed 3rd/4th in 2 of the 3 events. Was very fun seeing competitors from around the world!!!!
Ya horse shoers for sure, I don't know why these people try to see who can shoe the horse the fastest. A little crazy,,,, Relax and put some craftsmanship in your work..
@davepen16 i hope u really are a trained blacksmith and not a 16 year old. i have been trying to start forging as a hobby of mine, but all i got is my bbq grill, charcoal briquetts, railroad spikes and a 25 lb anvil. i am trying to get into knife making, but so far all ive done is screw up 4 railroad spikes. got any tips? btw im trying to go for a bowie
@dammitcrap I don't have very much experience with knife making. I mostly do artistic stuf ie. sculptures and the like. One tip I guess I could give you is to try to get your hands on some real coal, that would help. A bigger anvil would also help you out alot, but I know they are expensive. Good luck
@davepen16 thanks. i went to charcoal briquettes because i botched four bbq grills worth of wood in an attempt to make real wooden charcoal, so i just gave up lol. and yeah... im going to have to settle on my 25 pounder for awhile lol
this is a farrier contest not a blacksmith competition. Farriery uses some techniques from the blacksmith but the only similarity is a forge and an anvil. Some farriers get into blacksmithing from there horseshoeng training but most do not.
I'm a hobbyist smith and knife maker and to see trades people decry one another is just disappointing. Great video just a shame that there seems to have been a petty furore in comments. If more trades people gave information and less criticism then perhaps an art form would not be dying.
A good blacksmith ought to be able to make a horseshoe. It takes a farrier to shoe the horse though. A good farrier is half veterinarian, and may or not be able to do other blacksmithing jobs. He doesn't need to to be a good farrier.
I'm a blacksmith, you won't catch me trying to shoe a horse, I don't know enough about it to avoid the risk of ruining the horse.
I pegged the woman as a woman at first glance, great shoulders on her. Yum.
for Christs sake people, farriers are just types of blacksmiths, like gunsmiths and blade smiths. Blacksmithing is referring to the heating and working of the "black" or heavy metals
no they are not! farriers use different tools and do not work hot anymore. sorry, but i have little or nothing in common with farriers. we just both smell bad at the end of the day.
@capnnewb; Dont be a moron, I am a farrier. I work in my forge with every horse I shoe. Also like a LOT of farriers I make a lot of my own tools and do some ornamental smithing as well as making tools. I forge weld weekly. Dont be so ignorant. Farriers need blacksmithing skills. Without blacksmithing skills your just a hack under a horse. I'm also a member of this association and yes the World Championship Blacksmiths are all Farriers.
@HoofSupport hey, mate i hadn't slept in a while. most farriers i know (i only know about three who are still working as farriers) don't do any hot work at all or make their own tools. i am not always as ignorant as a i sound. a farriers skil set is different then a blacksmith. i am a blacksmith and make ALL my own tools and what i haven't made i am replacing with ones i have. now, that may be beacause i am cheap. i am not in abana beacause i am too cheap to pay for it, though.
@capnnewb , your full of bull-shit, im an apprentice farrier and i make everything from scratch (shoes, tool etc.) you should keep your mouth shut if you no nothing about farriers.
I am Blacksmith, shoeing a horse, as well as a bladesmith, forge welding,making general tools and artisan works, are all part of being a blacksmith, a true blacksmith is well rounding, there is nothing he/she cannot do or make or he/she isn't a true smith. and it takes year to accomplish all of it. it has taken me 8 years to reach were I am at.
You are sterotyping farriers. You don't truely have a understanding. I have seen many of blacksmiths and knifesmths and other metal workers that can not build a proper shoe. It takes practice as do all things. Are all blacksmiths well rounded? No some make chains, some are good at forge welds, There are lots of possible projects. But ask your self, is that person blacksmithing? Yes, then he is a smith.
ok look u guys r retarded the way it was a hundred or so years ago was that there was a blacksmith who knew how to do everything that the people needed ( shoe horses sharpen a scythe forge tools whatever u can name that is metal related ) but now since the need for blacksmiths has decreased there are two sects, a artisan blacksmith, and a ferrier and they are two differant types of blacksmith.......
this sis very silly argument going on here. it's like arguing if a dentist is really a doctor. people specialize, ok? some shoe horses, some make knives, some do a bit of everything, and some split hairs.
I see a coke forge, an anvil, and a hammer. I don't see any horses, do you? These men and women are the best BLACKSMITHS in the world. They can make a horseshoe so perfect it looks like it was made by a machine. With that talent they can make any blacksmithing piece with relative ease. Candlestick holders, door knockers, gates, ect. And by the way there's a class where they have to make their tongs to make the shoes. Most of the tools they are using here are hand made by them!
You may be a professional blacksmith, however. Right now you're being an amateur idiot.
A little research in entymology shows it's derived from Latin (Ferrum: Iron) and it's spelling and pronunciation changed as it migrated through European languages.
Now, go back to your shop and beat on some metal.
Sure! They are forging hand made shoes. In most cases they make there own tools. This is infact a blacksmithing competition. I am a farrier and i am a blacksmith. Reseach the history of both. You're right i some instances. Not all farriers are blacksmiths and all blacksmith are not farriers. But these farriers are taking fire, steel and force and making shoes hince they are blacksmiths.
He's 100% right this is NOT blacksmithing, It's farrier's work.
Not to put them down but Farriers are very specialized tradesmen (and women), who happen to use some of the same tools that Blacksmiths use.
A Blacksmith might do some Farrier work once in a while but will probably grumble about it. Farriers, on the other hand, rarely do actual Blacksmithing work.
(now I'm talking about the past here of course, nowadays the line is very much blurred when it comes to the forge-arts).
actually i would say it is the opposite. in the US blacksmiths and farriers were often one in the same in the old days where as now there are more dedicated farriers and dedicated blacksmiths.
You've got it backward my man. An artistic blacksmith has neither the tools, skills, or horsemanship required to shoe a horse. A GOOD farrier has all the skills and tools necessary to make a artistic piece. Artistic pieces are way easier than the tools and horseshoes a good farrier makes because the precision doesn't have to be there.
This is only half true; an artist blacksmith can shape pieces at will, without any precision, if he's not following a blueprint of some kind...like freehand sketching in iron. But when he has a blueprint (restoration or custom pieces) or has to do many similar pieces that will go together precision is a must, and everytime on different shapes.A good smith is one with good mind, eye and hands all working in harmony, whatever he works on.
That's like saying i'm a machinist and I only machine brake parts. lol Sure it may meet the technical definition but the difference between farrier and blacksmith is night a day!
How many farriers are as skilled and as rounded as an expert blacksmith?
@p00t00b ; Many farriers do blacksmithing work. They make tools, and horseshoes. Its more utilitarian. Its like saying those who make knives are not blacksmiths because they only make knives.
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kenji51590 1 day ago
Whoa. There's a world championship blacksmithing competition?!!!
Who new....
TheNoblebreed 3 months ago
God look at the beautiful arms on that woman! so hot!
rak000 4 months ago 2
oh yes farriers; the ultimate experts at shaping metal in half circles and hole punching.
johnnysgretsch 4 months ago
daaang girl got guns
ginaa80 4 months ago
@dammitcrap: have you got forced draft for your bbq? I'm using a hair dryer.
MrSunrise1961 4 months ago
@johnnysgretch: a horse has very limited patience, and you needs its cooperation. Speed with accuracy is important.
MrSunrise1961 4 months ago
I've done blacksmithing making oysters dredges and I bet neither ine of you dudes have made an oyster dredge,
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
I was in the 2000 competition as the only striker on the floor :) (ahh the apprentice years!!!). At that time the competitions was separted (farrier competition ran 9 days, blacksmithing competition was during one of those days). Now the farriers can pick up extra points if they enter the blacksmithing tourney. We placed 3rd/4th in 2 of the 3 events. Was very fun seeing competitors from around the world!!!!
hexusziggurat 5 months ago
At beginning of video looks like guy in red shirt on the right is lighting a cig off the fire lol
rodshockin 8 months ago
That woman is hot. Wow.
ahz123 9 months ago
i would not EVER cross that woman. If i did i'd live in fear of my life, for the rest of my life.
bakerman4444 9 months ago
Ya horse shoers for sure, I don't know why these people try to see who can shoe the horse the fastest. A little crazy,,,, Relax and put some craftsmanship in your work..
johnnysgretsch 10 months ago
they really beat the hell out of they're anvils though
davepen16 11 months ago
I'm a trained blacksmith and I say this with a little bit of shame, but those farriers really put us to shame in work ethic and shear productivity.
davepen16 11 months ago
@davepen16 i hope u really are a trained blacksmith and not a 16 year old. i have been trying to start forging as a hobby of mine, but all i got is my bbq grill, charcoal briquetts, railroad spikes and a 25 lb anvil. i am trying to get into knife making, but so far all ive done is screw up 4 railroad spikes. got any tips? btw im trying to go for a bowie
dammitcrap 5 months ago
@dammitcrap I don't have very much experience with knife making. I mostly do artistic stuf ie. sculptures and the like. One tip I guess I could give you is to try to get your hands on some real coal, that would help. A bigger anvil would also help you out alot, but I know they are expensive. Good luck
davepen16 5 months ago
@davepen16 thanks. i went to charcoal briquettes because i botched four bbq grills worth of wood in an attempt to make real wooden charcoal, so i just gave up lol. and yeah... im going to have to settle on my 25 pounder for awhile lol
dammitcrap 5 months ago
im going to look like that chick someday. haha im going to college to be a farrier
jennakajb 1 year ago
ela na femena...?
naniorco 1 year ago
I'd like to see anyone who can make a better set of tools than GE and don't say you make all your own tools because you don't
Magnificenceof3 1 year ago
personally, I stay away from farrier work because I don't want to cripple a horse
1rockcut 1 year ago 2
this is a farrier contest not a blacksmith competition. Farriery uses some techniques from the blacksmith but the only similarity is a forge and an anvil. Some farriers get into blacksmithing from there horseshoeng training but most do not.
johnnysgretsch 1 year ago
It does not matter. You all still poop out the same hole!
mannhorn34 1 year ago
I'm a hobbyist smith and knife maker and to see trades people decry one another is just disappointing. Great video just a shame that there seems to have been a petty furore in comments. If more trades people gave information and less criticism then perhaps an art form would not be dying.
Ozjourneyman 1 year ago
oh there are blokes there also?
McBrideGilbert 1 year ago
Well, instead of wasting heat making horseshoes that will never serve anyway, why don't they address REAL problems like world hunger ?
chialeux514 1 year ago
@chialeux514 Yeah! Make some metal sandwiches or something!
adisharr 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Almost all horse shoers know nothing about trimming a hoof. If you can't keep a horse working barefoot, you can't keep horses feet and should resign!
hoofrise 1 year ago
Blacksmiths make tools, equipment, art
Swordsmiths make weapons
Armorsmiths make plate, chain, and leather protection
They all fall under metallurgy and the art of metalsmithing
chillymunster 1 year ago
A good blacksmith ought to be able to make a horseshoe. It takes a farrier to shoe the horse though. A good farrier is half veterinarian, and may or not be able to do other blacksmithing jobs. He doesn't need to to be a good farrier.
I'm a blacksmith, you won't catch me trying to shoe a horse, I don't know enough about it to avoid the risk of ruining the horse.
I pegged the woman as a woman at first glance, great shoulders on her. Yum.
ProspectHillForge 1 year ago
BEWARE of the RED TOMLINSON school of horseshoeing.. RED IS A THIEF
itwasallgoodinthe70s 2 years ago
I would not hit that thing with the hammer like that and several times in a row for sure, but im not a blacksmith either.
dtiydr 2 years ago
for Christs sake people, farriers are just types of blacksmiths, like gunsmiths and blade smiths. Blacksmithing is referring to the heating and working of the "black" or heavy metals
joltzkrieg 2 years ago
no they are not! farriers use different tools and do not work hot anymore. sorry, but i have little or nothing in common with farriers. we just both smell bad at the end of the day.
capnnewb 2 years ago
@capnnewb; Dont be a moron, I am a farrier. I work in my forge with every horse I shoe. Also like a LOT of farriers I make a lot of my own tools and do some ornamental smithing as well as making tools. I forge weld weekly. Dont be so ignorant. Farriers need blacksmithing skills. Without blacksmithing skills your just a hack under a horse. I'm also a member of this association and yes the World Championship Blacksmiths are all Farriers.
HoofSupport 1 year ago
@HoofSupport hey, mate i hadn't slept in a while. most farriers i know (i only know about three who are still working as farriers) don't do any hot work at all or make their own tools. i am not always as ignorant as a i sound. a farriers skil set is different then a blacksmith. i am a blacksmith and make ALL my own tools and what i haven't made i am replacing with ones i have. now, that may be beacause i am cheap. i am not in abana beacause i am too cheap to pay for it, though.
capnnewb 1 year ago
@capnnewb , your full of bull-shit, im an apprentice farrier and i make everything from scratch (shoes, tool etc.) you should keep your mouth shut if you no nothing about farriers.
theaddman123 1 year ago
pfft farriers
Cstrife234 2 years ago
dudes got a shoe burning up in the fire at the end of the video
SlingerDun 2 years ago
haha i thought she was a he at the beggining of the video :p
popsicklestick1 2 years ago
I am Blacksmith, shoeing a horse, as well as a bladesmith, forge welding,making general tools and artisan works, are all part of being a blacksmith, a true blacksmith is well rounding, there is nothing he/she cannot do or make or he/she isn't a true smith. and it takes year to accomplish all of it. it has taken me 8 years to reach were I am at.
mattbledsoe11 2 years ago
You are sterotyping farriers. You don't truely have a understanding. I have seen many of blacksmiths and knifesmths and other metal workers that can not build a proper shoe. It takes practice as do all things. Are all blacksmiths well rounded? No some make chains, some are good at forge welds, There are lots of possible projects. But ask your self, is that person blacksmithing? Yes, then he is a smith.
skiptard 2 years ago
ok look u guys r retarded the way it was a hundred or so years ago was that there was a blacksmith who knew how to do everything that the people needed ( shoe horses sharpen a scythe forge tools whatever u can name that is metal related ) but now since the need for blacksmiths has decreased there are two sects, a artisan blacksmith, and a ferrier and they are two differant types of blacksmith.......
kooba147 2 years ago
thats some hard ass work.
r0cd0x 2 years ago
this sis very silly argument going on here. it's like arguing if a dentist is really a doctor. people specialize, ok? some shoe horses, some make knives, some do a bit of everything, and some split hairs.
kalevraa 2 years ago
This isn't backsmithing any more than bladesmithing is.
It's a specialization.
A blacksmith should be able to make almost anything, including horse-shoes and knives.
Not so the other way around.
Conan568 2 years ago
I see a coke forge, an anvil, and a hammer. I don't see any horses, do you? These men and women are the best BLACKSMITHS in the world. They can make a horseshoe so perfect it looks like it was made by a machine. With that talent they can make any blacksmithing piece with relative ease. Candlestick holders, door knockers, gates, ect. And by the way there's a class where they have to make their tongs to make the shoes. Most of the tools they are using here are hand made by them!
rockstarfarrier 2 years ago
As a professional smith, I have to say that the masters of old named these particular folks farriers based off of the word "fairy". :)
purgatoryironworks 2 years ago 2
You may be a professional blacksmith, however. Right now you're being an amateur idiot.
A little research in entymology shows it's derived from Latin (Ferrum: Iron) and it's spelling and pronunciation changed as it migrated through European languages.
Now, go back to your shop and beat on some metal.
Fox111one111eleven1 2 years ago
And I would say, try doing some research into "humor" I think you will find that its a great way of poking fun at folks to serious to take a joke :)
purgatoryironworks 2 years ago
They are still trainned in the art of blacksmithing, The same turning , forgeing and also welding are applied,
gtir100 3 years ago
Sure! They are forging hand made shoes. In most cases they make there own tools. This is infact a blacksmithing competition. I am a farrier and i am a blacksmith. Reseach the history of both. You're right i some instances. Not all farriers are blacksmiths and all blacksmith are not farriers. But these farriers are taking fire, steel and force and making shoes hince they are blacksmiths.
skiptard 3 years ago
He's 100% right this is NOT blacksmithing, It's farrier's work.
Not to put them down but Farriers are very specialized tradesmen (and women), who happen to use some of the same tools that Blacksmiths use.
A Blacksmith might do some Farrier work once in a while but will probably grumble about it. Farriers, on the other hand, rarely do actual Blacksmithing work.
(now I'm talking about the past here of course, nowadays the line is very much blurred when it comes to the forge-arts).
Blacksmith1964 3 years ago 28
actually i would say it is the opposite. in the US blacksmiths and farriers were often one in the same in the old days where as now there are more dedicated farriers and dedicated blacksmiths.
graffitiballz 2 years ago
You've got it backward my man. An artistic blacksmith has neither the tools, skills, or horsemanship required to shoe a horse. A GOOD farrier has all the skills and tools necessary to make a artistic piece. Artistic pieces are way easier than the tools and horseshoes a good farrier makes because the precision doesn't have to be there.
rockstarfarrier 2 years ago
This is only half true; an artist blacksmith can shape pieces at will, without any precision, if he's not following a blueprint of some kind...like freehand sketching in iron. But when he has a blueprint (restoration or custom pieces) or has to do many similar pieces that will go together precision is a must, and everytime on different shapes.A good smith is one with good mind, eye and hands all working in harmony, whatever he works on.
marcheseDS 2 years ago 2
@Blacksmith1964 She just tilted what the sign =} 0:04-0:06
Kakashi101sensi 3 months ago
@Blacksmith1964 and at 0:27 and the farriers sign is beside it =}
Kakashi101sensi 3 months ago
Farriers in the most part Are Blacksmiths
fiddler9635 3 years ago
Farriers can be and in most cases are blacksmiths! They are just forging shoes.
skiptard 3 years ago
That's like saying i'm a machinist and I only machine brake parts. lol Sure it may meet the technical definition but the difference between farrier and blacksmith is night a day!
How many farriers are as skilled and as rounded as an expert blacksmith?
viper8red 3 years ago
They're not blackies, they're farriers!
p00t00b 3 years ago 45
@p00t00b ; Many farriers do blacksmithing work. They make tools, and horseshoes. Its more utilitarian. Its like saying those who make knives are not blacksmiths because they only make knives.
HoofSupport 1 year ago
@p00t00b I´m artist blacksmith and I say: Every blacksmisth must be able to forge a horseshoe! HORSESHOE is the BASIC!
janectreb 4 months ago