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  • @kingjamesfitness Im sorry, i think i missed it : what network is this reality show on again? CBS? ABC? BET? PBS?

  • so we got a guy that seems questionable (if you know what i mean) behind all the 'hardcore', muscles and yelling. then you have a 'girl' that is obviously a dyke. and there are only women they are training.

    (O_o) 'king james' eh....

  • I was with you King James until I read your comments...You need to calm that down,brother.If you put yourself out there to the public,why wouldn't you expect some folk to talk smack?Welcome to a public life.Cry a river then build a bridge.Now I find you unprofessional,egotistical & classless being on naysayers level.And no,I'm not fat,vegetarian,naturalist,live healthy,look great for my age with 3 children & 1 grandson & a progressive black woman,just in case you planned to cuss at me too.

  • He needs to come to d.c. shit

  • These people are stupid. Nobody is going to talk to me like that under any circumstances. These broads have way more than a weight problem, they have a self esteem problem. Fools. Even after they lose weight they still are going to feel like shit.

  • I would love to be on this show, that's just the motivation I need. Be honest with me, don't baby me. That shit is for the birds.

  • very funny but - the vulgarity diminishes the respect I can give you - so only 4.5 stars our of 5... im definetly sharing on my fb and suggest a view to my peepl -

  • 2:17 OMFG LMFAO THAT MADE ME SPIT MY DRANK HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • LMAO!!! dude REAL!! lol. but that program is not for tha weak hearted...& u cant argue wit tha results...lol

  • country?bitch you look like a burnt piece of chicken.the whole st.l kno who i am ho

  • Get yo nasty lyn stalkin hatin no life havin country ass off here makin up shyt yo goddam story dont even make sence bitch! You must be in love cuz you keep comin back what the fck is wrong wit yo ass why dont you jus kill yo dam self cuz you stupid! Nobody & I mean no fckn body cares about yo dusty hatin ass you makin a goddam fool out of yo self cuz you ant got a fckin life! The ngga done (BLEW UP) & na you gotta watch him on (TV) bitch so deal wit it !

  • They are losing the weight and their medical issues, so I think this is a great program.

  • facebook screename nuttybloc on facebook take a good look at the kid.cant nam mf in st.louis dis me

  • first of all bitch i been goin there for years so how the fuk am i stalkin wen bitch i was already there?second dum ho i first seent this nigga strippin at a party and it was some fags there.the hos kept wantin me to go but wen i got there i said fuk this shit and me and the husbands went to the club and kicked it wit all hos.third bitch i aint no hater im happy for all the fat bitches and him too but that dont erase the fact i know he gets naked around fags.sorry ho

  • Keep it up King James...My sisters tried everything, diet teas, pills, zumba, all types of diets but they will tell anybody that they never lost weight the way they did when they were with you! You Rock! you gotta have haters, if not, than you Aint doing something right!

  • Why you talkin bout another mans (DICK) if that ant (GAY) I dont know what the fuck is! This ngga a goddam star he done got a goddam (TV DEAL) while you still sittn in yo momas fuckin basement (JACKIN OFF)! And you gota be (STALKIN) this man to be yellin spanish lake park! Hmm lets roll wit the evidence....You (STALKIN) the man in the park & you keep talkin bout his (DICK).. result yo ass a goddam (GAY STALKER)!!!

  • Ok bitch.you want it wit me?well tell that lil bitch we can settle it in the ring no cameras no nuttin wit all them fat hos on one side and the whole spanish lake on the other.We can settle this winner take all but i know he dont got the nuts cuz he too busy puttin penis pumps on his dik.

    Take up the offer i hope its soon ima boot his mf ass to the moon!st.louis is my home spanish lake is my backyard bitch

  • First of all rat bitch yall so cheap yal workin out at a public park by MY house where i like chillin.until he brought that ho shit up there only place i seent him was undressin in front of fags!now bitch im a man and real niggas know the truth you really a dum ho that need to know the truth about life.real stl onyo ass bitch

  • lil nigga let me tell u sumthin.them stupid hos thats cool.but nigga make no mistakes about it yous a ho i know cuz i seent you wit yo clothes off like a whore.now for somebody yo age thats pathetic as is them hos that patronize that bullshit you doin.as for you dum hos i c self respecting women workout all the time.yall hos desperate which is ugly.real stl onyo ass

  • @sodopo1 Hmm a couple of things here. 1. Yo bitch ass is watchin this man like a goddam (GAY STALKER). 2. Y would you give a dam what this man does unless you jelous as a muthafcka? 3. He done blew up & ant nobody eva herd of yo punk ass & neva will. 4. kill yo dam self cuz its nggas like you dat hate on anotha mans shine cuz you ant man enuff to get yo own lil simple faggot.

  • The women are there because they WANT to be there, they PAY for this and they knew what they were signing up for, this is not abuse, this is them changing their lives. Stop all the god damn bickering and see this for what it is, women changing their lives and getting healthy and in shape.

  • 33 fatasses disliked this video

  • this is awesome.

  • Aware.

  • you're a hero, the world needs more of you

  • THIS IS THE DEAL!!!

    I NEED THIS!

    I'm tired of trainers who say good job all the dam time!

  • If that works for his members, more power to them.

  • LMAO, wow ain't that some sh*t

  • I can't find his website...

  • My class name is Jermaine, and all jokes aside, if you have never had a trainer like this you would not know. I lost over 45lbs with this man and I needed the disapline because I would have been cheating and side stepping and he does not allow you to do that. As you can see he is in great shape so he has to know what he is talking about. Some of these comments are insulting and there are a lot of beautiful women in this class. This class does work! Me and many others are living proof!

  • @karyfowler1 can u give me contact info for this class...I'm interested please...thanks in advance...oh and good job!!!!

  • I can't tell you how many times I've been at the gym and I've said to myself ; "Man, if only a dude in a fedora and ill-fitting wife beater and a hairstyle from 2001 would verbally abuse me. Lawd Jeebus send me a nigga with a fake bat to beat me into shape!" Yeah, I'll pass on the sensationalism. But I'm sure the "Madea set" will love it.

  • My favorite quote from this video: "I'm not gonna sit down and cry with you; F$%^ that! You weren't crying at that D$%^ table when you were stuffing your fat a## face!!"

    Can't wait to get started again with you, King!!

    Let me know when you are opening the spot in U City!!

    "BLEACH" Down to 185, now!!

  • ROTFLMMFAO!!!!  Man this dude don't PLAY!!!! It's what some people need though.

  • @refuse2bstopped He's great! I need the discipline, and I love to workout with him!

  • oh shit homie.! xD thats a lil ignorant.

  • this shit is to funny!

  • hey im trying to find out when the casting call i wanna go lol i need it im 5'5' at 245

  • hahahaha...humming and patting your feet

  • King James where are you located? I want to take your class!!!!!!!!!!

  • @brnize1969 He's in St. Louis, and I think he is opening a spot in U City. I love working out with him! It's hard, but it produces RESULTS!!

  • "if you fuck up im hittn you with this bat".! LMAOOOOO

  • when does the show air??????

  • this shit is GREAT. i usually hate reality shows but i would definitely watch this. i love the tough love approach..lol@ him hittin them with the stick...GET YO FAT ASS UP!!

  • Yo king when does this show come out?

  • This sure is a HOT MESS. Is that man wacko or what?

  • lol that King . . .Sir . . .It Iz crazy , that woman are like in army . lmfao

  • THIS NIGGA GO HARD MANE HAHAHA!! GOT ME DIEIN LAUGHIN "THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WON'T LIKE THIS SHOW IS FAT BITCHES!!" LOL

  • lmao so yeah i was on worldstar n i seen this nigga got a reality dating show..where can i find that @?

  • 2:15 - 2:21 LMFAO AHAHAHAHHAHA That SHit Had Me ROllin HAHAHAHAHA

  • King James all day...Gussy

  • lol. my nickname is jello. #DEAD

    

  • when is this hitting tv

  • JUST GREAT ANOTHER NIGGER DEGRADING BLACK WOMEN. JUST WHAT WE NEED.

  • @atlkinkyboi What does race have to do with this??

  • first you shake them...then you break them...then you shape them...and finally you date them.... Good job

  • cant wait!

  • I wanna see this if it comes out!!

  • @MissHBICLayla If it does Im watching it. From what I see the ladies dont have a problem with the way he handles his bizz so hey if it works for them I aint mad.

  • @TheMizzalex We don't mind at all! I think it's hilarious and love the motivation he gives us!

  • @btifulwmn And thats all that matters. Everyone has their method and if this is what does it for you to get to where you need to be... Than more power to ya. I love it straight to the point and funny as hell. I would be lauging and crying at the same time. Wish you the best @btifulwmn

  • I would love to know where you teach King James. I have a few people interested....

  • I am all about supporting someone that is out there helping people get healthy and in shape. This isn't my method, but I won't knock a brutha for doing something to help better others and their health. This style isn't for everyone, but the woman that are there are getting what they need and getting the weight off. Congrats the ladies for their success stories and I wish you much success King James.

  • Hi James, Its me! - Waterbug! Just stopping by to say hello to you, and I was checking for your new video is it coming soon? I miss you and the gang!

  • soo, when is this show going to air?

  • King James is the Mannnnnnnn........if u want to look your best........this man will get u rite.........he did Rubie July.......youtube her.

  • This is awesome!!!!!! Too many black women are fat and out of shape and eat too much. EXERCISE is good for your MIND BODY and SOUL. These are grown women seeking a way to better themselves and King James is helping them using the way he thinks will work the best. And to the guy that said the chicks are ugly, we can see how ugly you are on the inside punk!!!

  • @shayun023 Boy i kant wait to train yo big fat greezy ass moma ima work d pork off her big ass! Lol!

  • This guy has def been in prison!!

  • @mrsdoitallable Sorry no jail time genius!Lol!

  • @mrsdoitallable That's the first thing I thought too.

  • @mrsdoitallable not true

  • Respond to this video...  not true

  • i mean they paying for it but he is doing this cus he likes to verbally abuse and hit on women. not cus he cares. anyone can see that.

  • @shayun023 HMM i can c your not that brite!

  • @shayun023 how u know

  • hahahahah this charlie wilson lookin ass nigga wildin....ike turner has returned as a fitness trainer..and his assistant "hoppin bob" from life out there lookin dumb as shit...this has to be the funniest shit ive seen in a while...

  • @illinipg then make sure yo country ass tune in! Lol!

  • @kingjamesfitness haha u that dude tho lol keep doin ur thing homie

  • hell naw...!!!!

  • Yo man you know me and, I know that there are some men want your help .I work on B- 300 with Tommy O and i feel that some men need your help. So speaking for myself can you help me Loose this pounds/? I m about 324lbs and how long will that take Help man you are your girl trainers ?Help me man

  • Shit, if it works for them and they willing to pay to be insulted its none of our fucking business...I wouldn't do it but hey...make that money...lose that weight...DO YOU :)

  • notice how there are no men...sooooo Men beating on women is wrong....but then this is supposed to be cool cause their losing weight? Seems like an excuse for something a little deeper or maybe I'm over analyzing this show and its target.

  • @mrhall2907

    Do analyze. some people need gentle persuasion while others need tough love. He is filling a deeper need. These women need a man who is going to get the job done because they have failed by other means. Its like when you were a kid. If mom said shut up, you kept taking by mumbling under your breathe. but when dad said shut up, you shut the hell up. This is no different.

  • @amatron201 What you say can be an over looked factor in this however the same excuse can be used by abusive husbands as well. "she wont be a good wife therefore I must use other means to make her do so." just seems a little double standard to me. It's ok to be a little hard but no need to threaten and beat with bats. I'm just looking at it from both sides here. Can't really see reasoning in hitting women with bats. It just seems like the same case where women dont leave abusive relationships

  • @mrhall2907

    Yes, I can see your point. However, he wasn't REALLY beating them, more like prodding. These women participate because it works from a motivational standpoint. But women don't sign up for abusive relationships since the husband is not beating to make a better wife, he is beating to release anger and frustration on an easy target; punching bag, not motivation. Can you see my point?

  • @amatron201 I don't doubt that it's a motivation tactic. Do I agree with it? not really. but hey if the verbal abusive works for them, then what ever floats their boat. However the trainer had a deeper motive to it I believe.

  • @mrhall2907 Its not a real bat u fckn genius and i dont c yo monkey ass tryn to help em so shut the hell up!.............."KING".

  • @mrhall2907 By now you should have realized that you were without a doubt over analyzing

  • @RSixBoy no...I still think it is a form of abuse. After researching the topic of abuse without giving thought to this vid and now reviewing the video after a year I still see mental abuse. This country has a conflicting mentality when it comes to abuse. We dissect each issue and say one part isn't abuse because of the outcome or tone but the other is based on physical and psychological changes in the subject. However abuse is actually more complex than what we are taught by society.

  • all them bitches ugly

  • @DaLoRdTrAg Damn, trag, you're such a nice guy!

  • @666pandemic lol

  • @DaLoRdTrAg they remind of myself. My grandma, aunts, cousins. ect. Average black women are not video hoe or King Mag status. Don't make em less beautiful. Sigh.

  • @diana1nicole so why are you like you are?

  • @DaLoRdTrAg fat you mean? Somebody gotta do it i guess.

  • @DaLoRdTrAg

    But wasn't that you I saw working the bricks in the far corner? LOL! Stop being such a meanie. It's great they found a routine that works for them. In fact, I want his number.

  • @DaLoRdTrAg Hey email me iv got something new coming out I wanna let you know about it ok?....................."KING JAMES".

  • @kingjamesfitness Where are you located???

  • @TheMizzalex -Yeah where is he located?????

  • @7QueenJ I have no clue. I see he has commented on here like a month ago but no response.

  • @DaLoRdTrAg - Wonder what you look lke? can we see a picture of you since you are calling everyone else ugly? just asking...... I betcha you look like a baboon's ass!

  • @spoilme40055 wow that is not nice

  • @spoilme40055 not nice

  • Funny

  • lmao!

  • Wow he is a Douche

  • He looks like Snoop dog filled up with synthol.. Everywhere. Reminds me of a black carrot top. Scary looking as fuck.

  • I wanna see this guy on THE BIGGEST LOSER for next season, fuck Jillian Michaels!

  • lmao the bitches nick name be JELLO

  • why does this nigga hit girls lol

  • FAG

  • Why do i get the feeling, he gon' have them on the corner, next?

  • @LogicLyfe LOLOL

  • Hey! there is a rumor going round saying that the show has been picked up by MTV in july is that true?

  • "Yo"man , thats a great thing you are doing with the ladies no shit but look here man why can't you have one of the lady trainers or your self help some of the brothers that has health problem or just plain out of shape as well? we need help too

  • hahahah wow this is so funny

  • respect man.

    nice video

  • I can wait to this comes out, i've been a trainer for years and even though i think this dude is a bit harsh, i think this is what a lot of people need to get to there goals, this kinda of motiviation. plus you can't argue with the results and thats all people care about in the end, much respect! But this video keep me laughing the whole time!!!

  • Why can't you argue with the results? There is no "Before' to compare. Just people consistently saying they lost roughly 10 lbs a month at an average of 2.5 lbs a week which is standard for an aggressive weight loss regimen he's not working miracles he's working an angle. Plus we still lack VISIBLE PROOF. All of the women in his program are still overweight.

  • Your definitely telling the truth with everything you said. He is definitely not a miracle work, but i have to admit every once in a while i get a client, i would love to send to him because they just don't try and want a miracle to happen, i just can't bring myself to talk to anybody that type of way, lol. However i would love to see proof before and after. I wouldn't be surprise if this guy is all talk and no action. but he would shock a lot of people if these people gets huge results.

  • GET UR JELLY ASS OF THE GROUND!!!!

  • So when is this going to be on TV? This guy is awesome.

  • Funniest video every. This needs to be on T.V. ASAP. or at least with webisodes. Don't know how mainstream America would take to this

  • He teaches you discipline. That's something all of us could always improve on.

    King is awesome.

  • Omg this is so funny i wuld do this if i was big he wuld b a gud trainer

  • and one white boy that smell like a wet dog when it rain.lol

  • Forget that im going after viewing this trailer! Im all about the spice and action! Now that i think about it, i gotta get ready for the new year! Do your thing King baby!!!

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    Do your research on the company first before sending any personal information. If you have never heard of the company that posted the free casting call or audition, do your research on the company first. Also, do not pay any fees to work with a company that posted a free casting call or audition. It should never cost any money to apply or book a job from a free casting call or audition.

  • This is a poem that I created just for my sista's out here trying to better themselves.. Keep strong and keep focused...

    Merry Christmas and happy new year to you all!

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  • Dear Lord,

    All I want for Christmas is a body that looks delicious! Turn me from a shy hot mess into a roaring Lioness. Walking through life confident and strong make my mind be my weapon, and make me glad to be headstrong. Send me a man who loves and respects me, and when I lose this weight make him the first one to see. If he does not respond or gets jealous of me, give me the strength to no longer let him be the man in my life causing me strife help me get rid of that no good lowlife.

  • no bat !!!!

  • Hey Batman,, did you use that bat in the men's class, or have you had one yet! Why do you have to belittle people, would you do that in a firearms class too.

  • @1958dsm ...Kick rocks you don't know anythong about his class..stop asuming and making an a#% out of yourself. ~Handicapp

  • i don't think you have to degrade people to help them. this "training" program is despicable.

  • shut up bitch !

  • you shut the fuck up, you fucking idiot.

  • @toosexy- LMAO.......

  • spoilme-shock and aww? like foreal? you foreal crazy aint you? - I betchu if you got into a real fight you would be the crazy bitch that brought the knife and gun and baseball bat and commence to whipping a bitch ass huh? no mercy! - No matter what tho if I got into a fight I definately want you to be with me. and you seem real smart and intelligent too. but crazy ass hell!!!!! do you see red when you get mad? LOL.......

  • SilentAllieCunt- Let me be very clear. You started a fight and then could not handle the way I chose to fight. Remember when Bush and Chaney went into Iraq? Chaney said we will SHOCK AND AWW THEM.. I fight the same way. I am going to say some things that cause shock, hurt feelings, and back you all the way down I will surprise you and piss you off ok? - In reality I am a very nice person. but dont start a fight with me and then be weak. NOW DOCUMENT THAT!

  • What fight? I just stated my opinion and no one seemed to like it. Oh well. Then I was talking to you about it and you had to get all aggressive and start saying horrible things. Your whole thing about Bush and Cheney is cute. I'm sorry your form of "taking action" is literally fighting like you're in a gang.

    Wow I just noticed...you're 42? You say I'm a sad person? Even though YouTube might not do anything, at least it can be shown here what a wonderful and very mature person you are.

  • SilentAllieCunt- Why are you checking my profile? you must be really mad at me. I act like I am in a gang? Again your weak-ass has tried to get one in. the trailor park community would be proud of you. I'll tell you what, if you want more of what you have been getting just keep trying to encourage me to let you have it. If you love pain, then I love inflicting it on you. Otherwise stop now before you get your feelings hurt again. I almost feel sorry for you so I am trying to be nice.

  • Spoilme- You are off the chain! If I ever need somebody on my team I want you! shit this video is boring and you keeping this shit alive... you cracking me up! are you that crazy foreal? probly so. anyway silent alliecat you need to either step yo game up or stay home cause you getting yo ass ate up! LMAO... this some crazy shit.

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  • I checked your profile because I couldn't understand who/what I was dealing with. Again, YouTube is public. Did you just say "weak-ass?" How about something other that what a 15 year old says, lady. Yes, you like to use ignorance and violence instead of coping with a real problem. I have to say, I can't believe what ghetto trash you really are.

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  • By the way, trying to be nice? Doubt it. You're probably as horrible and disgusting as a person in real life as you are here right now. I tried being nice and speaking like I would to a normal human being, but for the love of God, don't throw your jive at me. I understand it's some kind of defense mechanism that you guys use, but come on. I know you at least graduated high school.

  • @SilentAllieCat- You are seriously wounded hurt and angry arent you? I am not one to continue to beat up on someone who has obviously had enough. - YOU MAY HAVE THE LAST WORD, and then I must move on to something more productive. This is too much wasted time and energy and quite frankly I have better things to do with my time. I never intended to be on this channel for this long arguing with anyone and not getting paid for it. I like to make money.

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  • Aww, you used my real name. Thanks for finally jumping off. It's been a blast.

  • @SilentAlliecat- I know I promised you the last word, but I want you to know that the use of your real screen name as I signed off was a courtesy to you. It was my way of saying none of this was meant to be taken so close to heart. Despite what you think you have no idea of who I really am. Hopefully by restoring your screen name and knowing when to stop hurting someone has given you a clue. - Peace!- I am preparing for christmas, decorating my home etc.. no more time for this.

  • Have a nice Christmas

  • LOL TrinityBES1 is talking to me Handicapp! Lil Girl I left that post for you over 3 weeks ago..catch up and thanks for the extra hits B-!-T-C-H...

  • the nickname he has given me is "jello" lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sweety, get your parents to come to your computer and turn it off for you. It's a little past your bedtime. I know you might think I'm a "poopie head", but Aunt Allie is going to have to report you to YouTube TOS. Once you threaten my life with such hateful speech, I can't have you around. Goodnight, sweetheart.

  • Silent Allie Cunt- dont you wish you had that much power to just not want me around...... and make it happen. and I did not threaten your life. I simply gave you some advice sorry you didnt like it. But dont get on here trying to go off on someone expecting me to entertain you with light laughter, I dont play I come to the fight with a shit load of amunition and I come to win. So in the future dont start a fight if you cant defend yourself ok?

  • Actually, dear, you did. You told me to end my life. Very cut and dry, I may add.

    If you want to call me names instead of acting like an adult, feel free...I'll just continue to document/send to YouTube your childishness. Hopefully with enough of your dribble being sent, they'll do something about it. I'ts good to know I'm making a difference to get people such as yourself off public forums. Again, do take note of how I never once swore or called you names. This is how adults act.

  • Think about how many ways you have been manipulated by my use of strong, shocking language. First of all you came to this video and hated it. tried to attack James. Got side tracked arguing with me. Now you have forgotten all about the video and got caught up in a personal fight with me!- Everytime I say something that pisses you off and causes shock and aww, you respond and that increases the number of hits James gets on this video.!- LMAO........... I LOVE IT............

  • HAHAHAHA!! OOOHH SHIT! Youtube is the best!!!

    I would've never seen this shit no where else..

    Dude said " get yo jelly ass off da ground " & "If you fuck up im hittin you wit dis bat"

    wow! LMAO!!

  • Those big ass rhinos need some discipline.

  • SilentAllie RAT- Regarding relativity, everything I said to you was relative in the sense that you had the audacity to form an opinion of someone that you have never met personally, simply by watching one video. You went a step further in diagnosing him with a psychological problem. I simply pointed out to you that we too can form an opinion of you without knowing you and diagnose you also with a psychological problem. Very relative huh? furthermore..... you society reject,

  • Ha, it's the pot calling the kettle black. I can argue and tell you I have a job, a family, etc but here we are both on YouTube going back and forth. If you're calling me a "society reject" you're in the same boat as I am.

    If you're having an issue of me stating my opinion on a video comments page, contact YouTube.

    MY mind is "f'ed up"? Now you're just trying to throw things at me. Before you erased your comment, you said "I've seen your avatar". Yeah, it's a cat. What of it?

  • It is evident by your posts that your mind is not functioning properly. You make a sad attempt to point out a few things only to end up asking a few insignificant questions lending even more credence to my opinion that your mind is severely fucked up. And since you like to ask questions I want to ask you one. Why are you hiding behind your computer stalking this site when you hate the video? Humm How relative is that to your screen name Sil-Alliecat.

  • I get hilarious replies like yours, and well, it makes me giggle.

    The same could be said about you too! You too are "behind a computer" basically "computer stalking". Why keep replying to me?

    Why you keep referencing my screen name I'll never know...'tis a screen name, nothing more. Your name applies things, but do you see me here saying anything? No. Why? I have valid points; I don't need to disguise my lack of knowledge by making fun of a screen name (of all things).

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  • Looks like Flavor of Love met Richard Simmons

  • This is not the way you treat people, this is disgusting.

  • junglemonkey,- when can you go to the class? I would looveeee to see that fight! let us all know what day your going to whip James ass ok?- Oh, and by the way, I will make sure to call the county morgue for you so they can be on standby for your body ok?

  • This is disgusting, I would love to take the class just to pound the crap out of this jerk

  • Why? At least he is doing something about the obesity problem. Being obese is a serious problem, it brings HUGE mental and physical risks along. Some people can lose the weight on their own and some need a ''hard hand'' to push them. Whatever works for people. I personally know some people who could use a King James in their lives.