In Ramadi in 06 several Marines would routinly refuse to fire even though engaged by insurgents lost limbs and some there lives. if true this kids former co should face charges
Do any of you understand the diferance between total war and Unconventioanal warfare?
ww2 was total war whole cities in germany firebombed. conventional troops are not designed trained to fight an unconventional war. a "civialian" standing there with a cell phone calling in mortar fire is not a non combatant. the most powerful weapon that US Inf has is RTO that pulls the cjain on all US fire support.
this looks like a quality organization. idk what is worse, if they took my money and used it for their own personal interests, or if they actually used the money for what they say it wil be used for.
im not racist but i reckon that these rednecks should atlest be taught ABC's of morality before they join the army. it is clear that they killed these people just for the hell of it. thanks to the minority of these people, the military get a bad impression as a whole
this is part of history of United states ,first time they threat the people of japan in world war two ,they were enjoyed killing innocent people ,they enjoying killing afghans innocent Civilians , Iraq people and for sixty year,s the fifty first state of Israel enjoying killing of the innocent Plastenians .they are sick they are animal they joust locks like Humans but in fact they will kill you for you,r food and for a cup of water or oil .
It's funny how we kill innocent civilians overthere and when they kill innocent civilians over here the media makes a big deal about it without showing the full story. What makes an american life more valuable than lets say a Afghanistan citizens life?
@IcampWithmarathon they smell and live in a desert? they're uncivilized cavemen that not only kill innocent Americans but kill women and children in their own country, it's so easy standing on the sideline and pointing your fingers and criticize but its not an honorable war...kids with ak-47's people dressed normally than you turn your back and you get shot, the moment you hesitate you die...its killed or be killed...so i say fuck 'em
@nycbassist76 I wouldn't shoot civilians just becuase of the 1/1000 chance they might shoot me. It's obvious you're just an imoral, bloodthirsty, idiot.
What a bunch of bullshit. Of course women and children will die in war. It happens in every war. I've never even heard of a soldier I've served with going through those questions with a Drill Sergeant. You can't hesitate. That guy jumps out in a crowded market to attack you, you shoot back with AIMED fire.
civilian casulties are just part of the greater goal and world is built up on slaughter, wow what a bunch of satanic propaganda! religious leaders were wrong in advising him to continue to fight and kill. these are part of babylon the great whose sin has reached as far as heaven. also called the man of lawlessness by paul. no wonder God judges babylon the great first she is the most blood guilty of all parts of satans world.
@KoRnmunk00 Who tells you that taliban kill civilians on purpose ? Taliban is the the afghan ressistance which comes from the afghan population, that means every single village have their own ressistance force, and we afghan calls it "Pakhtunwali" it is code of hounor, never accept occupiers. it doesnt make sense to kill someone from your own village, it is like kill someone from your home. I dont know about al qaeda maybe they kill civilians, i dont like them, I hate them..
@afgpride1231 many think the taliban is the enemy and terrorist, but they never say that all the taliban are doing is defending its people from invaders (american military)! and in my book that is acceptable, the invation no but defending yes
@sh9683 You are absolutely right my friend. That is what i want to tell people, they never understand. American media (cnn, fox) is one of the biggest terrorists in the world they, they can avoid killing of millions to say the truth and not protect the the interest of the greedy and merciless government, but offcourse they are owened by the government. :-(
In an environment where one can't tell between friend and foe, the only best strategy is to treat everyone as foe first, which means the soldier will shoot first and say sorry later. This makes the citizenry angry (duh) and more insurgents are made.
@KoRnmunk00 EXACTLY! finally someone with a bit of sense. all these people that talk shit about how we kill civilians are fools, i DARE them to try and name a war without any civilian casualties.
@toxic2k7 make war like a man not like a coward. Back in time, there was thousands of wars without civilian casualties they fought like a man in the battlefield. How would you justifie the killings of civilians on that clip ? What makes you different from hitler ? He killed civilians too.. I dont care what you saying but you would never justifie that clip, everybody can see they are civilians, they cant do any harm. You are psycopat..
In war, you kill somebody firing at you. Somebody who is a threat to you. But don't kill adorable little boys and girls running in the street. Or peaceful women and men. Of they draw a weapon against you, fire. If they are armed and are planning to kill you, fire. Don't hurt the kind civillians. What did they do to you?
@arbitrage Dumb Kraut or not, I didn´t check b/c it is irrelevant and anyway there´s no way to know. Your statement "shoot a few civilians, big deal" is typical, whether you are American or not. It is what Americans and others think, or else there would be no war.
@arbitrage "shoot a few civilians, big deal." You make a big deal of it when you get shot, so what´s the difference ? You mean, it´s "big deal" cuz they are Arabs and you are Americans and therefore superior ? Your superiority is a superstition that was planted into your feeble brains by your jewish media and your patriotic school indoctrination. Face it, you Americans are the terrorists that you pretend to be fighting in Iraq. You are the murderers and the criminals in their country.
@tutuvo07 War isn't about killing any one. There are rules of engagement, one of which is to protect, yes, protect, unarmed civilians. If you study the war conventions, you'll find that a soldier is morally obligated to put his own life in danger rather than cause death or injury to civilians. This "rule" is violated, of course, but it's still a war crime when soldiers murder civilians. It is disturbing to hear that the US military is actually training soldiers to to do so.
@MiranUT WAR ISN'T ABOUT KILLING ANYONE????????? THEN TELL ME, WHAT IS WAR ABOUT? YOU SPEAK OF 'RULES' BUT IN WAR THERE ARE NO RULES, ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. YOU SPEAK OF MORALS, YET KILLING IS IN IT OF ITSELF IMMORAL. AND YOU SAY IT IS DISTUBRING? YOU SPEAK OF WAR IN SUCH TECHNICAL TERMS AND SO ASSURINGLY, SO HOW CAN THIS VIDEO BE SURPRISING FOR YOU?
"Out-terrorize the locals", right there how can you possibly say that you "fight terrorism" when you are yourself terrorizing the population. This is why everyone in US should watch TRNN...
3:00 I just can't stand watching this kind of pictures without a deep feeling of disgust and much anger, if I was a soldier invading anywhere, I couldn't even look at the people in the eyes, buried in shame. And trying to be friends with a kid just because he's too young to understand that he should spit in my face?
@Catachan1brainleaf Improvised Explosive Device. I think that you are under the impression that making a deadly bomb is easy. Where do you find old shells? And what kind of individuals have this experience? This is not a run of the mill type deal, you don't just make an effective mine. Where is this individual located that he is able to go unseen, yet call the "cell phone" (as you assume) at the exact perfect moment. I don't think you are thinking this through, it is not that easy.
@jfarris4417 you can find old shells all around and also don't need that, you can use any number of explosives for the bang. The rest just needs a place to be secured and a metal plate to be pushed by it into the target. It really is as easy as you are saying it's not. It really is.
As an American i know plenty of idiots here who would shoot that 'cool gun' just to see what it's like to kill lots of 'foreigners' . We've got some low class losers with big guns in their hands over there and they have immunity. Fact.
If it were viable and practical, I would totally be for psych testing people who are trying to join the military, much like psychiatrists, law enforcement, FBI/CIA personnel, and etc are done on; to weed out the retards who just want to kill for the fun of it and the experience.
@ChairmanKiel, There is psychological testing for all the jobs. The military would never weed out a "retard who just want to kill for the fun of it" - granted some nonretards slip through the cracks. No one joins the military because they don't want to kill.
"No one joins the military because they don't want to kill. "
That is understood, but I was referring to the ones that are there strictly to kill; without conscience, morals, or any compass to guide them; the really sick fucks.
I met an Iraqi that survived the first invasion and I got the impression that even then they viewed the US with disdain. They could have taken Saddam then but I guess Bush figured he could be taught a lesson and continue as a middle east Cia asset.
@Mahoivlich If you read the military's reasoning for not invading Iraq and killing off Saddam in the first war, you'll find that they didn't because it would have been in violation of the war conventions. Bush II and cronies threw that out the window and even stated that they were not going to follow the Geneva conventions. So it shouldn't be surprising that all these war crimes are being committed.
@Catachan1brainleaf So what WE..as neutral citizens can do to avoid other neutral people turning into haters of UK or Iraq..or any other country for that matter..? what do you reckon ?
@Catachan1brainleaf So why dont they do something about these frustrated soldiers who keep on fueling the war..like some kind of excersise..instead of those excersises which intend to kill civilians..why not do sth about these psychologically challenged soldiers ? i know why..because they dont want the war to end..simple..
he voiced his opinion about his problem of us being in iraq while bin laden was supposedly in afghanistan. he turned down a big contract to go fight for us instead of playing pro football for the arizona cardinals.
the powers that be couldn't have such a big figure openly criticize this war. at his memorial, the government used him and portrayed him a hero to the govenment's advantage.
it's depressing to know that this is the world we live in.
@Catachan1brainleaf Imporvised Explosive Device..yes. But do you really think all the men and women in the surrounding are to be punished ? The blood of innocent that is being spilt.. i mean who are we as humans to decide who is innocent ? And little children ??? How would you support them killing little children ??
@Catachan1brainleaf How is that not important? Who is arming the enemy? That is called basic military intelligence, something that any army would definitely want to know. Dumb that you would mock and question that, rather than simply try to answer the question.
Some people were armed in the first place, always has been.
Remember, in America you have the right to bear arms?
Did you think no other nation had the idea that people can and would carry weapons, guns, ammo, regardless of the law? They've had weapons there a long time. This is the middle east. This is the answer: everyone there's got a way to get a gun. Like downtown Detroit!
@Catachan1brainleaf Where would "insurgents" get so many - apparently quite deadly so therefore (sadly) effective - explosive devices? It is a perfectly good question. What do you suppose? Respectfully.
@jfarris4417 You are right, where would they be getting all these explosives from ? But just wait and think for a sec, these people throw rocks to soldiers who have guns..ofcourse the US soldiers are noticing it..but these military officials cover it up. Fine, if people in surrounding area of a bomb blast are likely to be targets..what if little kids wandering around the hood decide to check out whts going on (this kink of thing is common in countries like theese)..you will kill children ?
7:30 At this point in the interview I wondered immediately in my mind; where would these rag-tag Iraqi citizens get such a great number of deadly IED's? It is certainly not at all easy to aquire such material in any country, usually only the military would have access to such material - who was supplying these people with such devices? And who was it convenient for that these devices turned the mindset of the troops in such an extreme way? Very important question there.
@jfarris4417 Its a war who's both sides are controlled by ONE body..its pretty clear. These people cannot make bombs. But, the war has to continue..so bombs do explode..and the blame is given to these people.,thus motivating American people and soldiers to reply back with more fury..and this sadly grows day by day..
@jfarris4417 it is very easy to aquire this material in every country. I'm glad you don't know how it's done, but quite a lot of people do. A military version folds into fins to reduce friction and potentially aim. A non-military version is just messier.
This guy Josh Stieber is a hero. Thank God for people like him. Better he stand up and be a real man, than spend the rest of his life defending lies and being angry. Cheers to all you soldiers who stood up for what is right.
@slashTHEgash Just having this guy on is making point. All Paul is doing is steering the conversation to cover the points they talked about during the pre-interview. He's just not as smooth as the bigger media outlets.
If you find a news source that is not trying to make a point, let me know.
@MiranUT I'm well aware of that, hence why i said 'reminds me of Fox news'. What I mean't by my comment was that the interiew was all about controversy and no depth (however it did provide more then what you'd sometimes get from bigger media oulets). Dont get me wrong, I see TheRealNews as i good source of information on issues and perspectives which you'd never find anywhere else.
yeap, im not surprised american bitches are so brave only with women and childrens, but what happen when they faced to real men? you can see them screaming like pigs and crying like little girls, thats why I have an orgasm when I see an american pig dead, FUCK YEAH
@jmpeer unless he was very well armed while saying it.
Which is probably how that would go down.
Depends.
At least in some places, fighters / soldiers can still face each other and understand they have to kill each other because it is their purpose but not need to hate to do it. It just is what it is.
"I served in the U.S Army in the Infantry and we were taught from day one that killing civilians is reprehensible and not the conduct of a U.S soldier....."
but you clearly see the video and we know there was a child inside the van, and there was a journalist with these men. it's obvious you are a target no matter who you are unless you are a soldier.
@deadbolt978 - Glad to hear you had a different experience, but I've heard from other sources that collaborate with this guy's story. The "enemy" is dehumanized and that includes civilians.
Obviously not a lot of people have yet forgot about Vietnam - society will once those who were all alive in that era have all died off - but you wouldn't disagree, would you, that at that time it was also normal to kill civilians, drop napalm on them?
"Award For Soldiers Who DON'T Kill Civilians, reference video on MoxNews of today. The Military Industrial Complex is so cynical that it is just unbelievable, but it is reality.
Thank you, as so many times, Paul, for outstanding journalism and to Josh for speaking out.
The war propaganda in the U.S. and also here in Germany gets out of control!
Thanks Josh, Paul and Real News. I want to mow them down. As many as possible. If I can kill enough of the bad terrorists Ill get lots of medals. Then I can come back to the U.S. be a hero, and run for office.
@1985oakes IF YOU ARE IN THE ARMY FULL STOP YOUR A IDIOT, I GET IT YOUR LOST NO DIRECTION NEED A BAND OF BROTHERS AND THEN CERTAINLY YOU BECOME ABOVE THE LAW ITS IMPERATIVE THAT THESE BRAIN DEAD FOOLS GET THEMSELVES AWAY AND HOME AND PROTECT THERE FAMILIES FROM THREATS HERE FOR EXAMPLE CHEM TRAILS COMON THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ANY WHERE AND IT TOTALLY CONTRADICTS THE DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS LETS SORT IT
Having served in the British army officers core I can tell you this sort of stuff is common in the army. People dont speak about it too much but I left the army as an conscientious objector. I lose hope in humanity sometimes ... but with guys like this there is always hope.
@AnatolyaTurkiye JOSH YOUR JE W ISH SO MY QUESTION IS THIS WHO IS YOUR FAMILY AND IF YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS LETS DO MORE BUT IM SCEPTICAL. MORALLY WRONG INDEED. JUST SAY NO DONT GO TO WORK GET AS MUCH FOOD AS POSSIBLE BECOME FRIENDS WITH YOUR NEIBOURS AND COMMUNITYS STAND TOGHETER IN THE FACE OF THE LAW OR MARTIAL LAW INVOLVE ALWAYS RECORDING CAMERAS OR PHONES AND POINT THEM AT THE OFFICERS DO NOT BE FEARFUL.
This man is a hero. Its not always popular to tell the truth, it takes courage to stand up and admit wrong. War benefits the only the global, wealthy elite. Thank you so much for this post, sharing.
@justonemorename dude anything outside of the Holocaust narrative over here is jail time on my part... you get the drift on that subject but I can say Israel is a terrorist state and bash that place all I want and be fine.
Plus Israel is controlling the Pakistan Taliban too....
at least some of these guys have a conscience. The guys who obey without question and open fire on civilians are already mental defectives/brain damaged individuals who'll probably end up committing some nasty crimes when they get back to the US.
They bribe talibans, give them weapons and then terrorize the locals so they join the talibans. All to uphold a war like scenario so they can stay there for ever.
@justonemorename no it hasnt... the desire to expel the Jews before from Europe was based on the 2000 years they tried to invade and conquer Europe...
My point about the USA is my point... don't lecture about the Holocaust, I am not American I know what happened and then you assholes came to Germany and butchered people that didn't know what happened....
Anybody suggesting rules go out the window when war starts doesn't know war. The Germans and Russians had the most bloody war in history. The Germans treated the local Russian population with disdain and cruelty to their ultimate peril.
This young man is someone to be listen to, and be respected.
one of the zionist tactic is to set gentiles to kill gentiles, so zioninst warmongers can make huge profits. this is so called divide and conquer all gentiles by zionist-nazi-free mason-illuninati. israel, the u.s. and the britain are the most hated nations on the earth, but unfortunately americans and british don't know how much they are hated by all nations. Stop being the killing machines for zionists.
I hate the US imperialist! They claim to represent freedom, justice, and democracy but in reality, they are the true terrorist and everyone knows it. 9/11 doesn't even compare to all the innocent people the US has killed for their imperialist agenda around the world and the Middle East for their so called "war on terror." All those innocent men, women, and children didn't deserve to die! I hope judgment day comes soon enough to the USA empire for its crimes against humanity.
@justonemorename I wouldn't blame all of the killing for gain on any particular ethnic group. It's all initiated by rich scum who can't be happy unless they rule over others. The love of money is the root of all evil.
Stieber, your kids can be proud their dad has a conscience, and he is loyal to it, and brave enough to stand up for it, unlike so many cowards who obey orders and are frightened of thinking for themselves, hiding behind the flag.
Everyone go watch "The Men Who Stare At Goats." The thing he was talking about about the soldiers intentionally shooting high is also portrayed in that movie. You'll love it. Fun times, great oldies.
you all have been doing this since the beginning of the USA.
and the Nazis had a small group of elites involved in that camp kill them off operation... the USA version was that Germans themselves all over there killing off all of the Jews and that wasn't close to the reality.
@RAPSUCKS1738 Well, one thing is the gas chambers were invented to spare the murderers the pain of seeing what they were doing. They "just popped a gas pill into a tube". It is the same principle that has later military firing using interfaces that makes it look like a videogame to them: distancing them from their inhuman acts. (Distancing them is part of what makes it inhuman).
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In Ramadi in 06 several Marines would routinly refuse to fire even though engaged by insurgents lost limbs and some there lives. if true this kids former co should face charges
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Do any of you understand the diferance between total war and Unconventioanal warfare?
ww2 was total war whole cities in germany firebombed. conventional troops are not designed trained to fight an unconventional war. a "civialian" standing there with a cell phone calling in mortar fire is not a non combatant. the most powerful weapon that US Inf has is RTO that pulls the cjain on all US fire support.
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"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
-Henry Kissinger.
PE64088 3 weeks ago
death to america!
FuryOfTheSwarm 1 month ago
thats only amergayians
europeans are far more civilized than that
amergayians kisss my assssssss
FKAmericans 1 month ago
@FKAmericans
Yeah tell that to the French, Greek who destroyed property because they won't be getting free money. Europeans are nothing but welfare basket cases.
killzone321 2 weeks ago
This mans a hero for disobeying orders.
TheJackalWalksFree 1 month ago
Hey dumb asses it's war not a video game innocent people die, get over it in ww2 we would will 100k in a single night.
JPSwissCheese 1 month ago
I would had blown the brains off anything that moves even kids because they are future Taliban giving crime stoppers a favor
PeanutButerJellyTim1 1 month ago
@PeanutButerJellyTim1 You sound more like a terrorist than a freedom fighter. -_-
planetary109 1 month ago 2
@PeanutButerJellyTim1 I'd and if I was their i'd have put a stop to it.
TheJackalWalksFree 1 month ago
this looks like a quality organization. idk what is worse, if they took my money and used it for their own personal interests, or if they actually used the money for what they say it wil be used for.
YAHSPETSNAZ 2 months ago
im not racist but i reckon that these rednecks should atlest be taught ABC's of morality before they join the army. it is clear that they killed these people just for the hell of it. thanks to the minority of these people, the military get a bad impression as a whole
nilboi999 2 months ago
death to american soldiers
death to taliban/al qaeda
may they spill each others' blood
it makes me happy tat these dogs are killing each others
crorex1 4 months ago
Gov needs better killing machines not humans Facts are Facts
shadowofears 4 months ago
9/11 was done by Bush and dick cheny
shadowofears 4 months ago
@shadowofears yep!
sh9683 4 months ago
WOW pussies shooting from a gunship, american soldiers homegrown terrorists.
Vunduva 4 months ago
this is part of history of United states ,first time they threat the people of japan in world war two ,they were enjoyed killing innocent people ,they enjoying killing afghans innocent Civilians , Iraq people and for sixty year,s the fifty first state of Israel enjoying killing of the innocent Plastenians .they are sick they are animal they joust locks like Humans but in fact they will kill you for you,r food and for a cup of water or oil .
baryalaisamim 7 months ago
Rules of engagement.
jimmie481000 7 months ago
It's funny how we kill innocent civilians overthere and when they kill innocent civilians over here the media makes a big deal about it without showing the full story. What makes an american life more valuable than lets say a Afghanistan citizens life?
IcampWithmarathon 9 months ago 16
@IcampWithmarathon they smell and live in a desert? they're uncivilized cavemen that not only kill innocent Americans but kill women and children in their own country, it's so easy standing on the sideline and pointing your fingers and criticize but its not an honorable war...kids with ak-47's people dressed normally than you turn your back and you get shot, the moment you hesitate you die...its killed or be killed...so i say fuck 'em
nycbassist76 2 months ago
@nycbassist76 I'd rather be shot in the back then loose my soul. So fuck you.
186mjn 2 months ago
@186mjn again...easy said..you're not fucking there...but we can all just hope you get shot in the head
nycbassist76 2 months ago
@nycbassist76 I wouldn't shoot civilians just becuase of the 1/1000 chance they might shoot me. It's obvious you're just an imoral, bloodthirsty, idiot.
186mjn 2 months ago
@IcampWithmarathon
Because we have Laws.
Because we have a highly educated work force
Because we have Constitution granting every man, woman, and child equal rights
Because we have a powerful military that must follow the proper rules of engagement
Because we our young men and women are taught honor and loyalty in the armed force.
Because the world looks at, us and there is no better place the America.
As a foreigner, who is now a US citizen, I have more pride than a US born
samueldavs 1 month ago
@samueldavs How many times were you dropped on your head as a child?
Asocialism1 1 month ago
@samueldavs
3 times.. 3rd is a charm
samueldavs 1 month ago
What a bunch of bullshit. Of course women and children will die in war. It happens in every war. I've never even heard of a soldier I've served with going through those questions with a Drill Sergeant. You can't hesitate. That guy jumps out in a crowded market to attack you, you shoot back with AIMED fire.
thehotshirtguy2008 9 months ago
thats fake
druboful0 11 months ago
WOW i cant fucking believed you just bomb them like that cowards
JacJacknife 1 year ago
civilian casulties are just part of the greater goal and world is built up on slaughter, wow what a bunch of satanic propaganda! religious leaders were wrong in advising him to continue to fight and kill. these are part of babylon the great whose sin has reached as far as heaven. also called the man of lawlessness by paul. no wonder God judges babylon the great first she is the most blood guilty of all parts of satans world.
TheRosa63 1 year ago
Whoever signed off on the policy of //training// troops to utilize disproportionate fire against civilians, is a capital War Criminal.
centurion180ad 1 year ago
okey you shoot them but why are you not thinking others who was come for help?you are sick peopel thats it
abidikgubudik1981 1 year ago
@KoRnmunk00 Who tells you that taliban kill civilians on purpose ? Taliban is the the afghan ressistance which comes from the afghan population, that means every single village have their own ressistance force, and we afghan calls it "Pakhtunwali" it is code of hounor, never accept occupiers. it doesnt make sense to kill someone from your own village, it is like kill someone from your home. I dont know about al qaeda maybe they kill civilians, i dont like them, I hate them..
afgpride1231 1 year ago
@afgpride1231 many think the taliban is the enemy and terrorist, but they never say that all the taliban are doing is defending its people from invaders (american military)! and in my book that is acceptable, the invation no but defending yes
sh9683 4 months ago
@sh9683 You are absolutely right my friend. That is what i want to tell people, they never understand. American media (cnn, fox) is one of the biggest terrorists in the world they, they can avoid killing of millions to say the truth and not protect the the interest of the greedy and merciless government, but offcourse they are owened by the government. :-(
afgpride1231 4 months ago 2
@KoRnmunk00 hey motherfucker there was no reason to kill these innocent civilians, you are sick maan..
afgpride1231 1 year ago
That's why Iraqi war is messed up.
In an environment where one can't tell between friend and foe, the only best strategy is to treat everyone as foe first, which means the soldier will shoot first and say sorry later. This makes the citizenry angry (duh) and more insurgents are made.
Such a situation cannot improve.
soccom8341576 1 year ago
@KoRnmunk00 I assume these mistakes are fine as long as you're not among the casualties, right?
nam19771 1 year ago
this is some of the most disusting propoganda I have ever seen.
jowns0 1 year ago
@KoRnmunk00 EXACTLY! finally someone with a bit of sense. all these people that talk shit about how we kill civilians are fools, i DARE them to try and name a war without any civilian casualties.
toxic2k7 1 year ago
@toxic2k7 make war like a man not like a coward. Back in time, there was thousands of wars without civilian casualties they fought like a man in the battlefield. How would you justifie the killings of civilians on that clip ? What makes you different from hitler ? He killed civilians too.. I dont care what you saying but you would never justifie that clip, everybody can see they are civilians, they cant do any harm. You are psycopat..
afgpride1231 1 year ago
dirty americans
thevidmaster147 1 year ago
In war, you kill somebody firing at you. Somebody who is a threat to you. But don't kill adorable little boys and girls running in the street. Or peaceful women and men. Of they draw a weapon against you, fire. If they are armed and are planning to kill you, fire. Don't hurt the kind civillians. What did they do to you?
L33TP1KP1K 1 year ago
@arbitrage Dumb Kraut or not, I didn´t check b/c it is irrelevant and anyway there´s no way to know. Your statement "shoot a few civilians, big deal" is typical, whether you are American or not. It is what Americans and others think, or else there would be no war.
kolkrabe19 1 year ago 2
@arbitrage "shoot a few civilians, big deal." You make a big deal of it when you get shot, so what´s the difference ? You mean, it´s "big deal" cuz they are Arabs and you are Americans and therefore superior ? Your superiority is a superstition that was planted into your feeble brains by your jewish media and your patriotic school indoctrination. Face it, you Americans are the terrorists that you pretend to be fighting in Iraq. You are the murderers and the criminals in their country.
kolkrabe19 1 year ago
@arbitrage In a comedy sketch the character would of course get shot right after saying those words.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
why should this be shokcing? it's obvious that soldiers kill.
tutuvo07 1 year ago
@tutuvo07 Then maybe if some soldiers would kill you or your family, you would happily be OK because you get killed by soldiers
hamidious 1 year ago 2
@tutuvo07 War isn't about killing any one. There are rules of engagement, one of which is to protect, yes, protect, unarmed civilians. If you study the war conventions, you'll find that a soldier is morally obligated to put his own life in danger rather than cause death or injury to civilians. This "rule" is violated, of course, but it's still a war crime when soldiers murder civilians. It is disturbing to hear that the US military is actually training soldiers to to do so.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@MiranUT WAR ISN'T ABOUT KILLING ANYONE????????? THEN TELL ME, WHAT IS WAR ABOUT? YOU SPEAK OF 'RULES' BUT IN WAR THERE ARE NO RULES, ANYTHING CAN BE DONE. YOU SPEAK OF MORALS, YET KILLING IS IN IT OF ITSELF IMMORAL. AND YOU SAY IT IS DISTUBRING? YOU SPEAK OF WAR IN SUCH TECHNICAL TERMS AND SO ASSURINGLY, SO HOW CAN THIS VIDEO BE SURPRISING FOR YOU?
tutuvo07 1 year ago
"Out-terrorize the locals", right there how can you possibly say that you "fight terrorism" when you are yourself terrorizing the population. This is why everyone in US should watch TRNN...
sinekonata 1 year ago 4
3:00 I just can't stand watching this kind of pictures without a deep feeling of disgust and much anger, if I was a soldier invading anywhere, I couldn't even look at the people in the eyes, buried in shame. And trying to be friends with a kid just because he's too young to understand that he should spit in my face?
sinekonata 1 year ago 2
@Catachan1brainleaf Improvised Explosive Device. I think that you are under the impression that making a deadly bomb is easy. Where do you find old shells? And what kind of individuals have this experience? This is not a run of the mill type deal, you don't just make an effective mine. Where is this individual located that he is able to go unseen, yet call the "cell phone" (as you assume) at the exact perfect moment. I don't think you are thinking this through, it is not that easy.
jfarris4417 1 year ago
@jfarris4417 you can find old shells all around and also don't need that, you can use any number of explosives for the bang. The rest just needs a place to be secured and a metal plate to be pushed by it into the target. It really is as easy as you are saying it's not. It really is.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
Pat Tillman took it in the face.
PeterSodhi 1 year ago
As an American i know plenty of idiots here who would shoot that 'cool gun' just to see what it's like to kill lots of 'foreigners' . We've got some low class losers with big guns in their hands over there and they have immunity. Fact.
robi2000 1 year ago 23
@robi2000:
If it were viable and practical, I would totally be for psych testing people who are trying to join the military, much like psychiatrists, law enforcement, FBI/CIA personnel, and etc are done on; to weed out the retards who just want to kill for the fun of it and the experience.
ChairmanKiel 1 year ago
@ChairmanKiel, There is psychological testing for all the jobs. The military would never weed out a "retard who just want to kill for the fun of it" - granted some nonretards slip through the cracks. No one joins the military because they don't want to kill.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@MiranUT
"No one joins the military because they don't want to kill. "
That is understood, but I was referring to the ones that are there strictly to kill; without conscience, morals, or any compass to guide them; the really sick fucks.
ChairmanKiel 1 year ago
@ChairmanKiel That's exactly the type they want. The army isn't guided by morality, but by the demands on the military by immoral politicians.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago 2
@robi2000 and some upper class **ckers putting the guns in their hands and sending them out to do it of course.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@robi2000 Fact? Saying it doesn't make it so.
captx388 1 year ago
I met an Iraqi that survived the first invasion and I got the impression that even then they viewed the US with disdain. They could have taken Saddam then but I guess Bush figured he could be taught a lesson and continue as a middle east Cia asset.
Mahoivlich 1 year ago
@Mahoivlich If you read the military's reasoning for not invading Iraq and killing off Saddam in the first war, you'll find that they didn't because it would have been in violation of the war conventions. Bush II and cronies threw that out the window and even stated that they were not going to follow the Geneva conventions. So it shouldn't be surprising that all these war crimes are being committed.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@Catachan1brainleaf So what WE..as neutral citizens can do to avoid other neutral people turning into haters of UK or Iraq..or any other country for that matter..? what do you reckon ?
salikk88 1 year ago
@Catachan1brainleaf So why dont they do something about these frustrated soldiers who keep on fueling the war..like some kind of excersise..instead of those excersises which intend to kill civilians..why not do sth about these psychologically challenged soldiers ? i know why..because they dont want the war to end..simple..
salikk88 1 year ago
REMEMBER PAT TILLMAN!!!!!!!
sk8bow 1 year ago 2
@sk8bow I remember him. He was killed (murdered) by his comrades.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@MiranUT
he voiced his opinion about his problem of us being in iraq while bin laden was supposedly in afghanistan. he turned down a big contract to go fight for us instead of playing pro football for the arizona cardinals.
the powers that be couldn't have such a big figure openly criticize this war. at his memorial, the government used him and portrayed him a hero to the govenment's advantage.
it's depressing to know that this is the world we live in.
sk8bow 1 year ago 3
@Catachan1brainleaf Imporvised Explosive Device..yes. But do you really think all the men and women in the surrounding are to be punished ? The blood of innocent that is being spilt.. i mean who are we as humans to decide who is innocent ? And little children ??? How would you support them killing little children ??
salikk88 1 year ago
@salikk88
AND IN RETURN, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE AGAINST THE U.S.
IT WORKS TO THERE ADVANTAGE.
sk8bow 1 year ago
@Catachan1brainleaf Ok. This case really interested me and I really want to get as much info on it as I can.
Take care!
ateixeira82 1 year ago
douse the flames with gasoline!
RobRulz89 1 year ago
Good work.
morfes 1 year ago
"Us and them, and afterall we're only ordinary men." - Pink Floyd
blackiron60 1 year ago 2
end the drug and oil wars cannabis hemp can replace all natural resources !
america4hemp 1 year ago 2
@Catachan1brainleaf How is that not important? Who is arming the enemy? That is called basic military intelligence, something that any army would definitely want to know. Dumb that you would mock and question that, rather than simply try to answer the question.
jfarris4417 1 year ago
@jfarris4417 who armed you?
Some people were armed in the first place, always has been.
Remember, in America you have the right to bear arms?
Did you think no other nation had the idea that people can and would carry weapons, guns, ammo, regardless of the law? They've had weapons there a long time. This is the middle east. This is the answer: everyone there's got a way to get a gun. Like downtown Detroit!
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@Catachan1brainleaf Where would "insurgents" get so many - apparently quite deadly so therefore (sadly) effective - explosive devices? It is a perfectly good question. What do you suppose? Respectfully.
jfarris4417 1 year ago
@jfarris4417 You are right, where would they be getting all these explosives from ? But just wait and think for a sec, these people throw rocks to soldiers who have guns..ofcourse the US soldiers are noticing it..but these military officials cover it up. Fine, if people in surrounding area of a bomb blast are likely to be targets..what if little kids wandering around the hood decide to check out whts going on (this kink of thing is common in countries like theese)..you will kill children ?
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@detinUretsehcnaM
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sk8bow 1 year ago
lolllllllllll MOTHER FUCKER MILITARYS !! lol ¿ hello? are humans? hello? --
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PeliculasIlluminatis 1 year ago
7:30 At this point in the interview I wondered immediately in my mind; where would these rag-tag Iraqi citizens get such a great number of deadly IED's? It is certainly not at all easy to aquire such material in any country, usually only the military would have access to such material - who was supplying these people with such devices? And who was it convenient for that these devices turned the mindset of the troops in such an extreme way? Very important question there.
jfarris4417 1 year ago
@jfarris4417 Its a war who's both sides are controlled by ONE body..its pretty clear. These people cannot make bombs. But, the war has to continue..so bombs do explode..and the blame is given to these people.,thus motivating American people and soldiers to reply back with more fury..and this sadly grows day by day..
salikk88 1 year ago
@jfarris4417 it is very easy to aquire this material in every country. I'm glad you don't know how it's done, but quite a lot of people do. A military version folds into fins to reduce friction and potentially aim. A non-military version is just messier.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
This guy Josh Stieber is a hero. Thank God for people like him. Better he stand up and be a real man, than spend the rest of his life defending lies and being angry. Cheers to all you soldiers who stood up for what is right.
jfarris4417 1 year ago 20
@jfarris4417 Hitler went to heaven
fatherted369 1 year ago
@jfarris4417 He's a whiney bitch. He was a shitty soldier who hated the Army because he sucked at it.
thehotshirtguy2008 9 months ago
i dont like this interview that much. It seems to me that Paul (the interviewer) is out to make a point. reminds me of fox news.
slashTHEgash 1 year ago
@slashTHEgash Just having this guy on is making point. All Paul is doing is steering the conversation to cover the points they talked about during the pre-interview. He's just not as smooth as the bigger media outlets.
If you find a news source that is not trying to make a point, let me know.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@MiranUT I'm well aware of that, hence why i said 'reminds me of Fox news'. What I mean't by my comment was that the interiew was all about controversy and no depth (however it did provide more then what you'd sometimes get from bigger media oulets). Dont get me wrong, I see TheRealNews as i good source of information on issues and perspectives which you'd never find anywhere else.
slashTHEgash 1 year ago
This is a really interesting interview! Good work, keep it up!
VolcanicPenguin 1 year ago 4
@Catachan1brainleaf
Do you think you can make the link to those images available?
ateixeira82 1 year ago
red, white and blue is the butcher's apron!
maydayfire 1 year ago
Man I love Paul Jay.
He's great like Ron Paul.
Hierophant2 1 year ago 3
@Hierophant2
I don't think he's quite as much of a believer in the free market tho. :p
VolcanicPenguin 1 year ago
yeap, im not surprised american bitches are so brave only with women and childrens, but what happen when they faced to real men? you can see them screaming like pigs and crying like little girls, thats why I have an orgasm when I see an american pig dead, FUCK YEAH
fuckusa33 1 year ago
@fuckusa33 Ha ha. You would be so fucked if you said that to someone's face.
jmpeer 1 year ago
@jmpeer haha.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@jmpeer well, im telling you, fuck you bitch and suck my balls, what? what you gona do now bitch? come here and I jizz on your face
fuckusa33 1 year ago
@fuckusa33 Oh gosh, and here I was thinking you were just another internet troll.
jmpeer 1 year ago
@jmpeer well, stop thinking about me bitch, here I am, I home hahahahahahaahahahahahha
fuckusa33 1 year ago
@fuckusa33 Aw, I can't do that, it'd be a shame to miss your incoherent insults and laughter.
jmpeer 1 year ago
@jmpeer unless he was very well armed while saying it.
Which is probably how that would go down.
Depends.
At least in some places, fighters / soldiers can still face each other and understand they have to kill each other because it is their purpose but not need to hate to do it. It just is what it is.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@fuckusa33
@therealnews hurry up and block this piece of shit.
RAPSUCKS1738 1 year ago
@RAPSUCKS1738 why? did I say lies? oh, I see... you are american, a "perfect human been", I said again, im not surprised, well, FUCK YOU BITCH
fuckusa33 1 year ago
@fuckusa33 <=== Internet tough guy.
ChairmanKiel 1 year ago
I served in the U.S Army in the Infantry and we were taught from day one that killing civilians is reprehensible and not the conduct of a U.S soldier.
Never once did anyone advocate that this was acceptable. I'm thoroughly opposed to both wars but I really question this guy's story.
deadbolt978 1 year ago
@deadbolt978
We all must discern truths from our own experience and sense of right.
carefulcarpenter 1 year ago
U.S, IDF armies are barbarians
sudan15 1 year ago 3
@deadbolt978
"I served in the U.S Army in the Infantry and we were taught from day one that killing civilians is reprehensible and not the conduct of a U.S soldier....."
but you clearly see the video and we know there was a child inside the van, and there was a journalist with these men. it's obvious you are a target no matter who you are unless you are a soldier.
sk8bow 1 year ago
wtf does that mean? what are you saying?
Kiyaki777 1 year ago
@deadbolt978 - Glad to hear you had a different experience, but I've heard from other sources that collaborate with this guy's story. The "enemy" is dehumanized and that includes civilians.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@deadbolt978 training can change.
Obviously not a lot of people have yet forgot about Vietnam - society will once those who were all alive in that era have all died off - but you wouldn't disagree, would you, that at that time it was also normal to kill civilians, drop napalm on them?
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@deadbolt978 May I ask what kind of mantras you sang during drills and runs?
MiranUT 1 year ago
"Award For Soldiers Who DON'T Kill Civilians, reference video on MoxNews of today. The Military Industrial Complex is so cynical that it is just unbelievable, but it is reality.
Thank you, as so many times, Paul, for outstanding journalism and to Josh for speaking out.
The war propaganda in the U.S. and also here in Germany gets out of control!
At least they cannot control our mind and hearts.
Lisa from Munich
Sundrumify 1 year ago 2
Thanks Josh, Paul and Real News. I want to mow them down. As many as possible. If I can kill enough of the bad terrorists Ill get lots of medals. Then I can come back to the U.S. be a hero, and run for office.
workwillfreeyou 1 year ago 2
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1985oakes 1 year ago
@1985oakes IF YOU ARE IN THE ARMY FULL STOP YOUR A IDIOT, I GET IT YOUR LOST NO DIRECTION NEED A BAND OF BROTHERS AND THEN CERTAINLY YOU BECOME ABOVE THE LAW ITS IMPERATIVE THAT THESE BRAIN DEAD FOOLS GET THEMSELVES AWAY AND HOME AND PROTECT THERE FAMILIES FROM THREATS HERE FOR EXAMPLE CHEM TRAILS COMON THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ANY WHERE AND IT TOTALLY CONTRADICTS THE DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS LETS SORT IT
1985oakes 1 year ago 2
Having served in the British army officers core I can tell you this sort of stuff is common in the army. People dont speak about it too much but I left the army as an conscientious objector. I lose hope in humanity sometimes ... but with guys like this there is always hope.
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago 12
@AnatolyaTurkiye JOSH YOUR JE W ISH SO MY QUESTION IS THIS WHO IS YOUR FAMILY AND IF YOU REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS LETS DO MORE BUT IM SCEPTICAL. MORALLY WRONG INDEED. JUST SAY NO DONT GO TO WORK GET AS MUCH FOOD AS POSSIBLE BECOME FRIENDS WITH YOUR NEIBOURS AND COMMUNITYS STAND TOGHETER IN THE FACE OF THE LAW OR MARTIAL LAW INVOLVE ALWAYS RECORDING CAMERAS OR PHONES AND POINT THEM AT THE OFFICERS DO NOT BE FEARFUL.
1985oakes 1 year ago
This man is a hero. Its not always popular to tell the truth, it takes courage to stand up and admit wrong. War benefits the only the global, wealthy elite. Thank you so much for this post, sharing.
sweettina2 1 year ago 7
@justonemorename dude anything outside of the Holocaust narrative over here is jail time on my part... you get the drift on that subject but I can say Israel is a terrorist state and bash that place all I want and be fine.
Plus Israel is controlling the Pakistan Taliban too....
MrSpieldose 1 year ago
at least some of these guys have a conscience. The guys who obey without question and open fire on civilians are already mental defectives/brain damaged individuals who'll probably end up committing some nasty crimes when they get back to the US.
ivangrozny27 1 year ago 4
@ivangrozny27 They went to government run schools, what do you expect?
tarossi400 1 year ago
@tarossi400 - You have a point, but the interviewee went to a private (religious) school.
MiranUT 1 year ago
They bribe talibans, give them weapons and then terrorize the locals so they join the talibans. All to uphold a war like scenario so they can stay there for ever.
efectomariposa93 1 year ago 2
I fear some of the men coming back are going to get jobs as SWAT
btigtime2 1 year ago
@btigtime2 - or worse, no job at all.
MiranUT 1 year ago
@justonemorename no it hasnt... the desire to expel the Jews before from Europe was based on the 2000 years they tried to invade and conquer Europe...
My point about the USA is my point... don't lecture about the Holocaust, I am not American I know what happened and then you assholes came to Germany and butchered people that didn't know what happened....
MrSpieldose 1 year ago
Anybody suggesting rules go out the window when war starts doesn't know war. The Germans and Russians had the most bloody war in history. The Germans treated the local Russian population with disdain and cruelty to their ultimate peril.
This young man is someone to be listen to, and be respected.
Hominoid1952 1 year ago 10
Its called winning hearts and minds
2legs2armsetc 1 year ago
i love to know what all of you people thought war is??????
did you think they go and shake hands to go to a party??????
no offense but erm war is war all rules go out the window
lllraverslll 1 year ago
@lllraverslll So ,in the end, is it "freedom and democracy"?
MrMemag 1 year ago
@lllraverslll
intentionally killing civilians shouldn't be a part of war..
sl2mmer 1 year ago
@sl2mmer i agree how ever that is not how war works.... war never stopped at an innocent door. i believe history already told all of those stories.
lllraverslll 1 year ago
Sick nation realy sick...
lenda92 1 year ago 2
one of the zionist tactic is to set gentiles to kill gentiles, so zioninst warmongers can make huge profits. this is so called divide and conquer all gentiles by zionist-nazi-free mason-illuninati. israel, the u.s. and the britain are the most hated nations on the earth, but unfortunately americans and british don't know how much they are hated by all nations. Stop being the killing machines for zionists.
wannaruwae 1 year ago
I hate the US imperialist! They claim to represent freedom, justice, and democracy but in reality, they are the true terrorist and everyone knows it. 9/11 doesn't even compare to all the innocent people the US has killed for their imperialist agenda around the world and the Middle East for their so called "war on terror." All those innocent men, women, and children didn't deserve to die! I hope judgment day comes soon enough to the USA empire for its crimes against humanity.
Lexman00 1 year ago 5
the real news anchor seems to be advocating it and supporting it, what we did with america in terms of imperialism is something we look down upon.
NewEraRevolution 1 year ago
@justonemorename I wouldn't blame all of the killing for gain on any particular ethnic group. It's all initiated by rich scum who can't be happy unless they rule over others. The love of money is the root of all evil.
RAPSUCKS1738 1 year ago 6
Real News & Real Questions
Thanks Real News 4 Not Selling Out 2 The Corporate Banksters .. !!
oicub2 1 year ago 20
Stieber, your kids can be proud their dad has a conscience, and he is loyal to it, and brave enough to stand up for it, unlike so many cowards who obey orders and are frightened of thinking for themselves, hiding behind the flag.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago 14
Everyone go watch "The Men Who Stare At Goats." The thing he was talking about about the soldiers intentionally shooting high is also portrayed in that movie. You'll love it. Fun times, great oldies.
AdamEtheredge 1 year ago
Still being debated til' this day.
slhines7 1 year ago
you all have been doing this since the beginning of the USA.
and the Nazis had a small group of elites involved in that camp kill them off operation... the USA version was that Germans themselves all over there killing off all of the Jews and that wasn't close to the reality.
MrSpieldose 1 year ago
I wonder if the nazis were trained similarly.
RAPSUCKS1738 1 year ago
@RAPSUCKS1738 Well, one thing is the gas chambers were invented to spare the murderers the pain of seeing what they were doing. They "just popped a gas pill into a tube". It is the same principle that has later military firing using interfaces that makes it look like a videogame to them: distancing them from their inhuman acts. (Distancing them is part of what makes it inhuman).
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago 3