Truth, Lies, Oil and Scotland - Part 1

[bluecanary1note]

A vote for independence is a vote for lasting prosperity. A vote for the Union is a vote for Tory or New Labour forever, and for the continued squandering of Scotlan's money.

[N330AA]

This documentary didn't really say a lot. It just confirmed that Scotland has an oil industry and that oil industries are quite high tech and that Aberdeen has benefited immensely.

I notice Salmond ducked the question of how much money came back to Scotland. What does that tell you?

[djtiny91]

scotland that supports this nation without us england is nothing, britain is nothing and england nos it southern england is a bunch of jumped up snobs who think they are it. olimpic stadiam brittish NO english built it in LONDON like most things are, and built with scotlands welsh N irelands tax payers money who have 100s of miles to travel to the games. just another way to bring money into london england produces nothing. the faster we get our independence the better

[SonicGeneration]

All this arguing is sad.. what happened to this once great union? All I see is lies from both sides.

[RobGordon35]

@SonicGeneration Well I've been reading about this since 2003, and the only lies and indeed propaganda, I can see is spewing out of Westminster,

[TheGd1314]

NEWSNET SCOTLAND for some real news

[GalaticSpaceHero]

Yea ! CEO of Oil Co here got a 400 million dollar bonus.

[donnchadhban]

Tony Blair a "Scot"? Hardly. He's an Englishman who attended an English-run school in Edinburgh (Fettes) for part of his education. If a Scot attends a school in England does that make him an Englishman? And Blair, Brown and Darling (who I too regard with disdain) were elected to UK positions through a UK-wide process in which the majority are residents of England; they were not appinted to run England by some Scottish cabal.

[minchul80]

@donnchadhban - Tony Blair was born in Edinburgh.. and what makes Fettes College an "English-run" school?

[Moreofthesamez]

fucking brits

[waspnag]

Well tax payers money from all UK nations payed for it so its BRITISH OIL!!! if we did all become independent, then i suspect it would be partitioned between England and Scotland. which would be fair in my opinion, half each.

[beverage2008]

britains oil or scotlands oil? - SCOTLANDS OIL!! its the only reason england wont let us be independent! they want to keep stealing what belongs to SCOTLAND!

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@beverage2008 And what was the reason England wouldn't let Scotland become independent before the oil was discovered? We all know it was because the Scots didn't want independence before the oil was found, that's why. Happy 2 be a part of the union when England supported you, but when oil was found and you get the chance to give something back, you want to fuck off and take the lot. Typical greed, the type of greed that the evils of oil breeds. You'll come a cropper having such oil-loving greed.

[SonicGeneration]

@dontbothertoreadthis

England doesn't really support Scotland, Scotland actually raises many of its own taxes

I don't truly believe the majority of Scots want full independence, but rather full fiscal autonomy, to set their own taxes and have total control over everything except defence and the like..

At the end of the day, Scotland is a vital part of the British economy, if it wasn't, then the British Government wouldn't even bother trying to keep Scotland within the union.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@SonicGeneration I 2 don't believe Scots want indy, but as 4 England only wanting them because of oil 2 help the UK economy; then Y didn't the UK not try 2 get rid of Scotland before oil in the North Sea was known about? Why did England try and conquer Scotland centuries before oil was any use even? Truth is a small island is best united even if that costs money.

Scots can't afford full indy and that's why we hear of a social union where Scotland can share all the expensive stuff. The cheek.

[SonicGeneration]

@beverage2008 It is actually a fact, that the VERY first trickles of oil were discovered off the coast of northern England.. clearly the majority is pumped from 'Scottish waters'.

[RobGordon35]

@SonicGeneration Where did you read this?

[ShitJitsu]

something is very wrong with this country.........as a scot i know nothing of this wealth

[thosewerehappydays]

@goldiedawn17 me too! But that has nothing to do with the Caledonian question.

[thosewerehappydays]

@goldiedawn17 Where do you think that surplus came from? Scots Oil? BTW alot of the rigs in the North Sea are actually in English waters - Scotland doesn't have any territorial waters. Do you know that 720,000 people in Scotland work in public sector jobs?

[thosewerehappydays]

@goldiedawn17 Scotland actually gets more taxes from England than it pays. And think of all those nice government jobs in Scotland - the Inland Revenue office for one.

[underterraingrunter]

For more information about lies told by oil profiteers see the 1979 interviews on my channel. The health of Scotlands sea and coastline is at risk because of those lies.

[donnchadhban]

Only English people make such an obsessive fuss about where a person was born, as if they walk around with a birth location sign. My birth took place in another part of Europe altogether. But I was raised in Scotland so I speak like a Scot and English people in Scotland call me a "Scotsman" and treat me as such. The amount of insulting derision and blatant discrimination that I and other Scots receive at the hands of the English bosses in Scotland is enough to fight for independence.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@donnchadhban Perhaps Scots would be more loved by English people if a Scot (Tony Blair) hadn't taken them into illegal wars with Iraq and Afghanistan, and another Scot (Gordon Brown) hadn't sold off half of their historic gold reserves when gold prices were at rock bottom and with no need to sell them whatsoever but to support a micky mouse currency, and another Scot (Alistair Darling) nearly bankrupting England. English have to cope with all that as well as all the Scots anti-English shit.

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis Racism works both ways and racism is much worse the further south one goes. As for Blair and Brown, both of whom are self seeking Westminster spivs, -what do you think was happening to England in 1970 when Britain was on the brink of bankruptcy then? There werent any Scots involved in that mess, and it was Scotlands oil that bailed out the UK in the early 1970's and save Britain from bankruptcy. Just try finding out exactly how much revenue North sea oil raise for the UK...

[RobGordon35]

@RobGordon35 -I've tried to find out how much money is raised for the UK from North sea oil and gas since 2003, and I still havent been able to get a conclusive answer, and why is this? I can easily go online and find out how much oil raises for norway though. Westminster doesnt want the UK electorate to knwo how much money comes from Scotland to London never to be seen again. The McCrone report is damming enough...

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 It wasn't Scotland's oil, it was UK oil. Did Scots go about shouting about English taxpayers money as "English money" before oil was found, or did they say nothing and accepted it as UK money?

I'm refusing 2 accept oil raises more for the UK than what Scotland costs the rump UK, as Salmond tells us it raises more; yet he is an ex-economist who held Ireland's economy up as a shining example when others were warning of the dangers regarding Ireland's economy. He got it wrong.

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis Really? Answer me this, then. If it was UK oil why did the UK Government bother to classify the McCrone Roprt top secret if the oil belonged to the whole of the uk? My car is mine, my home is mine, this laptop is mine. I have no need to keep it secret. Refuse to accept all you like, the hiding of the McCrone report ALONE is reason enough to get out of the UK. Trident is another. There is a whole list, and just watch how high taxes in England rise when Scotland escapes.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 - Because the nationalist cause was gaining ground on the "It's our oil" slogan, and the gov was probably fearful Scots might want indy and all the UK money put into getting the oil would have benefitted Scotland only and not the whole UK.

England supported Scotland before the oil, but now Scotland can give some payback greed is creeping in and you want it all and to hell with the rest in your union.

English taxes? An indy Scot land wants to model itself on Norway cont....

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 cont.... and Norway has some of the higest taxes in the world and more importantly an extremely high cost of living. What will happen to Scottish consumerism when Scots head south for their goods in much cheaper England? Norweigians can't travel to shop, but Scots will be able too. So it's you who will have high taxes and a high cost of living.

If England goes the same way as an indy Scotland; then you're all screwed and for what? cont......

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis My friend has just come back to the UK after living in Norway for a year. She tells me (She's from Sussex) that people in Norway have a higher standard of living than anywhere in the UK. Taxes? By all means tax the people who pay little or no tax by putting their money in off shore accounts, or use teams of accountants and lawyers to avoid payin *proportionate tax*. The UK is a tax haven for the very wealthy, at the expense of everyone else.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 - Ireland had a higher standard of living too until recently, now they're falling over themselves to leave the place. An indy Scotland was going to be like Ireland, according to Salmond before it went tits-up, now attention has been turned to Norway now the Arc of Prosperity is an embarrassment.

If you'll happy with a 330ml can of coke costing £2.50 instead of two litres currently costing less than £1, then sobeit. Similar price differences can be applied across the board. cont..

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 cont.. But, U can't compare yourselves to Norway. Look at how Norway keeps itself wealthy. Would U be happy with an indy Sco doing to Burma what Norway does to keep itself wealthy?

And what about the consumer issue. Norwegians cannot travel anywhere to buy goods cheap, but Scots would be able to just travel to England if an indy Sco mirrors Norway and their prices. Your economy wouldn't be able to compete and your consumerist economy would be destroyed. cont...

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 cont. So, You wouldn't able to mirror Norways high taxes or high costs of living as their geographic position allows them to have such high costs. And you can't make deals with Russia to explore the Barents for oil as they just have after saying they wouldn't for decades, because North Sea oil won't last forever.

In other words, you aren't Norway and are very different to them. The best comparison is Ireland, and they never truly had indy and are now owned by the IMF and Germany.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 And what about my question on your hopes for England? Do U hope England becomes wealthy if Scotland leaves the union, or do you hope they will fail and become bankrupt?

If they become wealthy then they are supporting U, but if they fail then you're supporting them. If U are supporting them, don't you have English members of the family who'll suffer if you get indy and your most important trading partner fails?

What would an indy Sco do if their fellow islanders went bankrupt?

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 cont..... Do you really want to have taxes like the Norwegians? Do you really want their high cost of living? And, if Scotland is supporting England, and that's a big IF, what will happen to an indy Scotland whose biggest trading partner has gone bankrupt and a nation you share a border with? A bankrupt England will drag a rich Scotland down with it.ither way you've had it. You'd be required to help with a bailout for a start; let alone the fact your trade with them would dwindle.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 And U say about hiding the McCrone report is enough 2 leave the union, but what about Holyrood hiding the Hollie Greig case? What does the UK have 2 hide by hiding reports, U ask. But what does H'rood have 2 hide with their cover-ups?

Answer me this: Would U like 2 see Eng fail if Sco gets indy? Do U think Eng will fail or prosper if Sco got indy? If they prosper then that means they R supporting U. But if they aren't they'll fail; but don't U have English family who'll suffer?

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis You really dont have an argument, what does the H.G case have to do with McCrone. Scotland is the only country in the world to strike oil, and be poor. I've been called a subsidy junkie, a scrounger, someone who is supported by London. LIES! Scotland is supporting the whole of the UK and has been for 40 years. ctd...

[RobGordon35]

@RobGordon35 ctd. The UK has been driven to near bankruptcy TWICE since the second world warby in-bred chinless westminster politicians who,instead of using the oil money for an oil fund, use it for tax breaks for the wealthy! Then walk away wealthy themselves. Its not the Scots fault that Westminster is broken, but if you want things to be better as an english person, the most you can hope for is if Scotland leaves, because ONLY THEN will Westmister be broken down and rebuilt ctd...

[RobGordon35]

@RobGordon35 ctd...as for English familes suffering, well in the short term that is unfortunate, EVERYONE is suffering right now. And here we have Cameron whos party has NO support in scotland saying he wants to stop Scotland from leaving? The same Scots that are spongers, subsidy junkies, etc. Well 'bollocks' to the Lying Tory Liars and the Lying Tory Liars that tell them. Scotland *WILL* leave, despit the propaganda and lies that have been told to the decent people of Scotland for decades!

[RobGordon35]

@RobGordon35 We are all tired of propping up the Tory public school elite who really would say; 'the hell with you', Thats who you need to be debating with about the state of the crumbling soon to be 'ex' UK not me.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 - I hear Scots say they want to get rid of Westminster because of UK corruption, and you say about cover-ups. I'm just saying the HG case shows there is corruption and cover-ups in Scotland too.

And you are not the only oil nation to be poor, so I don't know where you got that from. Mexico produces more oil than the UK, and they are desperately poor. Like I say, they produce more oil than the whole UK, and an indy Scotland won't get 100% of the oil; maybe 80-90% of it.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 I'd also like to ask U where U stand on the Shetlands having a vote. I see no problem with them having a seperate vote from the mainland given they're islands and have a unique culture. Scotland talks about England's bigger population forcing Tory govs on them, so surely the same would happen to the Shetlands by Scotland in the referendum? Would U support them having a seperate democratic vote 2 go with an indy Sco, or 2 stay with the UK, or does democracy risk Scottish indy 2 much?

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis Thats not going to happen; Scotlands been trying to get away from Westminster for decades and Shetland wouldn't leave even if it could it'll be protected by the newly created Scottish Army, R. S.A.F, and R. S. N.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 There is an argument that the Shetlands are being held by Sco illegally (so currently by the UK) but all that aside; where's the problem in giving them a say as 2 who protects them? Maybe they would want 2 be part of an indy Sco, remain as part of the UK, or even ask if Norway would have them. What's the problem in allowing them a seperate vote, apart from the fact they'd be taking their oil with them. If the UK fears losing the oil via Sco breaking away, so 2 U with the Shetlands.

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis As far as I am concerned the Shetlands is a seperate issue & the majority of the people there and in the surrounding areas want Scotland to be independent, according to the most recent poll conducted by the Guardian. Scotland will be independent. Scotland will grow in Strength as a country. Scotland and the Scots will make their own decisions. People in England can make their own too. Only once Scotland has left the Union will it be seen how much Westminster ctd.

[RobGordon35]

@RobGordon35 ctd was holding the country back. As for the people who claim the Scots are a drain on the UK? Well just watch them plot, and scheme, and manouvre to try to keep Scotland in the union at all costs. I have read enough facts over the last 8 years or so to convince me of the superior, more secure position Scotland will have, once the country becomes independent. Frankly all of this deflection and misdirection from The Tories and Westminster about this matter makesme sick to my stomach.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@RobGordon35 No answers 2 my questions so U go on a little rant.

I thought the Shetlands were LibDem voters, that unionist party.

Anyway, good luck if U get indy, because you'll need it, your whole island will. Pre-union your island and the nations on it were small fry, and that will happen again as disunited you'll let whatever power U currently have drain away.

Pre-UK Scotland always helped 2 make sure no part of your island had power but 2 let continental France have it. Telling!

[RobGordon35]

@dontbothertoreadthis What questions? I've answered all the questions I had with regards the state of the UK, I have been reading about this for 8 years now, primary sources where avaialble. I dont think devo max is anything more than a stepping stone to independence, and this whole question of the Shetland Isles is really just nonsense in my view. The Shetlanders *are* Scots, and they want independence for Scotland according to the latest Guardian online survey. Its very clear.

[RobGordon35]

@RobGordon35 As for allowing continental france to have power, well things change, and 'Europe' such as it is now did not exit then. Very few people in scotland are Lib-dem voters now, and there are no Conservative voters left really. Why you think the Shetlanders and their voting is necessarily more relevant to Scottish independence any is beyond me. Shetland is a part of Scotland, the Shetlanders are Scots. Culturally, Nationally and Spiritually in terms of their religion.

[SonicGeneration]

This simply is not true and is quite frankly a pile of manure, to put it politely.

[SonicGeneration]

@donnchadhban, that is

[1sick93]

This Scotland England rivally is bullshit. My brother was born in Scotland, I was born in England, does that make me automatically scum because where I am born?

We are all the same people, we have the same feelings, we bleed the same, petty rivalry will get us nowhere, we are one Kingdom, lets work together rather than being dicks about who owns what.

[NumberDne]

@1sick93

@ashleigh2404

@gnostical

Matters not 2 England though. BBCs been pushing the Scots 2 want independence, & Scots ve been fooled because its widely accepted around the world now that oil will probably be obsolete in 2030. The fuel combustion system is rapidlly being equalled and surpassed by electric powering. In preperation for this, westminster is pushing 2 offload Scotland before the oil's obsolete, while Scotts unfortunately put the future of Scotland on soon obsolete oil.

[ashleigh2404]

this is to the dumbass who reckons nsea oil will run out in 2013.youve been listning to your english lying gov so much u believe thier lies do ur research u ignorant fool any one who knows anything about how much oil there is in the north sea knows there is at least 100 years of oil left when scotland gets independance i will savour it with great glee and delight fuck westminster thievin bastards

[legandrydirk]

@ashleigh2404 Well said

[RobGordon35]

@ashleigh2404 I agree!

[66scampi]

Scotland has not been a Sovereign nation for over 300 years. The oil is in British waters. Why on earth should Scotland after nearly 300 years of union with England, given that we are talking about a 1970s phenomenon, be able to legitimately claim this resource for itself? It beggars belief. Just imagine if oil was discovered in the Falklands. I suppose Scotland would suddenly be happy to be part of the union again.You couldn't make it up!

[gnostical]

@66scampi The oil is in SCOTTISH waters thats why its scottish oil, its not british waters. Just because we are part of the union dosent change the fact its scottish oil in scottish waters dumbass. If scotland was allowed independance this very moment then the oil would be 100% in our control its legallly scottish oil. The only reason the uk gets a share of the oil is because we are part of the union if we where to leave the union we would legally take full control of the oil. So stfu idiot!.

[dontbothertoreadthis]

@gnostical - Late response here to your old post: I wouldn't say you'd legally be in full control of the oil if you got independence because most of that oil belongs to the Shetlands and you gained them illegally from Norway. I'm glad you're going to get a referendum as I respect democracy, and that means I believe the Shetlands should get a vote to either stay with the UK, or go with Scotland, or become part of Norway or even be independent themselves. Whatever they choose should be respected.

[SonicGeneration]

@gnostical If Scotland only has people like you to defend it then you're not going to do very well. :)

[NeMeImpuneLacessit]

Why oh why do the electorate of Scotland still vote for unionist parties who have never done anything for us except betray us and our aspirations. We are a rich country, both in terms of natural resources and in terms of an educated workforce. Time to get free and cut loose the millwheel of England from around our necks.

[asubjectiveopinion]

"We" will not get a penny of that oil money.

In an independent Scotland that money would end up in the pockets of the SNP's financial backers.

We'd just be ripped off by a Scot rather than an Englishman, it's much the same just with a lot less smiling.....

[tonytopcat83]

i despise Bernard Ingham. what a slavish establishment loving bawbag

[joeycusack80]

@tonytopcat83 .I agree, Ingham is a total cunt , a parasite who never did a propers days work in his life.

[RobGordon35]

The United Kingdom PAYS for London.

Just like the London Olympic bid, the rest of the UK will pay for it.

This is a fact.

[SonicGeneration]

@RobGordon35 The United Kingdom paid for the Commonwealth games in Manchester too, so what?

[RobGordon35]

@SonicGeneration The only part of the UK to benefit from the Olympics will be London. According to the BBC money set aside fro the arts and good causes in Scotland was re-routed to London help pay for the olympics. No one was asked about this, and clearly London cant afford the olympics (neither can the UK) I cant comment on Manchester but I am angry that the arts and charitable causes in Scotland will lose out for the benefit of London, and only a small part of London at that.

[bigtamoly]

To back this up search for Prof McCrones report from 1975. It was hidden by the Westminster Govs under secrecy and only appeared through freedom of information. Consecutive labour and conservative governments kept it secret from the public to ensure Scotland didn't benefit. It's a disgrace.

[warriorprince1010]

Britain produces more oil than Kuwait, not Scotland.

[wiley789]

@warriorprince1010 duh!!!! how do you get to that conclusion. if anything shouldnt you be saying UK or dont N Ireland get a say.

[warriorprince1010]

@wiley789 UK, Britain produces oil, not Scotland.

[cherzo]

@warriorprince1010 It's IN scotland you retard.

[TartanTerror1314]

If Scotland fails to get it's Independence she will be the laughing stock of the world! ''Englands Bitch!'' EVERY former country of the old British Empire when offered Independence has grabbed it! Fuck sake Guys be proud!! GO FOR IT! The Empire is Dead! stop living in the past ,wake up and join the world's community of Free Nations!

[fionndan]

"Why don't we hear about [the fact Scotland produces more oil than Kuwait]" ? Hmmm I wonder why. The British Government does not want to talk about it for fear that Scottish people might choose to leave the Union.

[warriorprince1010]

@fionndan Britain produces oil, not Scotland. The majority of British wealth is made, created and based in London. Maybe only the English should keep the wealth in London.

[fionndan]

@warriorprince1010 Britain produces oil? The industry just happens to be based in and around Aberdeen and at Grangemouth (in central Scotland). Oh... and the oil happes to be in Scottish waters, as recognised by international law. Google it. Enlighten yourself.

So Britain produces oil? Ok, true from one angle. But then should we not really say that the world produces oil? I live in Aberdeen. There are people from all ove the world here - producing oil.

[fionndan]

@warriorprince1010 London gets more money put into it than the people who live there produce for it. To whom does the wealth belong? There is a much simpler approach to dividing up the wealth of the Union. Proportionately. Relative to population. Thats the only fair way. After the divorce all the oil revenues produced forthwith will be rightly and properly Scotland's.

Tell me please, what or how much of London's wealth does Easterhouse in Glasgow see?

[cherzo]

@warriorprince1010 that is complete nonsense, you really are a cunt arent you

[warriorprince1010]

@cherzo The oil is British, as the financial centre in London is British. Scotland needs to be less selfish. When the English create wealth through their top universities they share it the Welsh and Scottish,

[cherzo]

@warriorprince1010 thats out of being bad for all the other shit they do.

[fionndan]

@warriorprince1010 CAn you back anything you say up with facts? Or is this jsut a British Nationalist rant ?

[warriorprince1010]

@fionndan London creates about 60% of British wealth, Scotland creates less than it spends. Quit your anti Englishness and Scottish nationalism, it is tiresome.

[fionndan]

@warriorprince1010 This really is laughable warrior prince. I am not anti English - that is a fact. If you want to say that I am based on some youtube comments (which by no way suggest I am anti English) then fine . The only thing that shows is that you cannot think logically.

Do you know what is tiresome? Your making statements as if they are facts and not backing up anything you say with evidence.

You do your 'British' ideological cause no good whatsoever.

[Luigi2533]

@warriorprince1010 No scotland has the majority of the oil and England in the last 40 years have had nearly £300000000000 from Scottish waters which should have been spent in scotland.What do you have against independance?

[warriorprince1010]

@Luigi2533 Britain has the oil.

[Luigi2533]

@warriorprince1010 Britain does have oil but what you have to realise is that scotland has the most of it didnt you read my last comment?

[warriorprince1010]

@Luigi2533 There is loads of oil and gas off the northern coastline of the UK.

[Luigi2533]

@warriorprince1010 Yes correct however when you look at what is scotlands and what is englands scotland is the bigger producer-well known fact.

[cherzo]

@fionndan Well said, we wont be beaten by being told lies by people like warriorprice1010.

[thosewerehappydays]

@fionndan Scotland doesnt produce any oil whatsoever. Those platforms are owne by private companies. Even if Scotland left the Union, Scotland would NOT get any cash from oil.

[SonicGeneration]

@fionndan Scotland would get a share of the North Sea oil I suppose, but not all of it, as it is owned by the British Government, and the Scottish Government has no monopoly over it.

[RobGordon35]

I agree, the governments own economists in 1975 said; 'If the Scots are 'allowed' unfettered access to the North Sea oil and gas, Scotland will become wealthier than Switzerland"

Lies, Lies, Lies. And Theft!

[highlandladdie09]

scotland should be filthy rich, but unfortunately england has been raping us scots for years - and now this, scotland is a very rich country (rich in natural resources) and great people, how much longer can we let the english walk all over us?.....

we are second rate in this union - and it is always going to be the same.... this needs to be sorted out once and for alL.

INDEPENDENCE!

[andrewf1975]

Tony Benn does not sit in the House of Lords. He did become Viscount Stansgate in 1960 and renounced his hereditary peerage to serve Bristol South East on 20 August 1963.

[0ddba11s]

Good info in this, it shows you how bad things would be in Britain if we hadn't started the wars for oil in Afghanistan and Iraq. It would be like the 1970,s with power cuts, so when Bush arranged 911 he had our best interests at hart.

[Gaius51]

Yeah Tony Ben a real working class hero of the labour party that now sits in the house of lords.

[alba4232]

Westminster: SNP - 38% Labour - 27% Tory - 15% LibDem - 14% The Electoral Calculus gives the following Westminster seats analysis: SNP - 37 Lab - 12 LD - 8 Con 2 This poll shows clearly that Scotland is beginning to SEE! Independence!

[albabhoy81]

Saor Alba

Everyone vote torrie in the general election and say yes to a team GB. As sad as it is these are the fastest way to independence it would seem. Traitor Scots who glorify the union.

VOTE SNP

Once independent

VOTE SOCIALIST

[pmccormack1987]

Absolutely. SNP aren't perfect but it's all we have right now. After independance we can trully choose what's best for our country. Ditching the royal family 1st on my list

[alba4232]

We would also have an oil fund which would be there for rainy days .Such as the global crisis we are experiencing at the moment.I hope that for the moment these facts shall suffice. Saor Alba

[alba4232]

secondly:if Scotland had had the full revenue throughout the seventies our industrys would most likely still be in place as Scotland would have been able to invest independently.We would also to this day be able to invest in our own infrastructure and develop or re develop industry within our own country this would enable Scotland to survive nicely once the oil is gone. Scotland to survive nicely once the oil is gone.

[alba4232]

Firstly i would like to say that the arrogance presented here by rooter and Brit watch(haha)!is exactly what will lead Scotland out of this so called united kingdom.Not only are your arguments outdated they are invalid!So keep on the good work boys your doing a great job.

[rooters11]

This is Scottish Propoganda pure and simple, how sad that they sensationalised they produce more than Kuwait, this is true. Kuwait restricts the ammount of oil it produces in association with OPEC, Scotland runs on full capacity where Kuwait just trickle the stuff out. The real question is unlike kuwaits 5th worlds largest oil reserves, what does Scotland have. What would Scotland do when it's dwindling supply runs dry.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Ageed and this was shown on BBC one, which puts to rest the claim that the BBC is biased and will do anything to defend the union. Yet the make programs like this? lol

One of the big questions when it comes to oil is the SNPs plans for the future. All the time they talk of Norway saying Scotland could be like that. Yet one of the first acts of an independent Scotland would be to join the EU and the Euro. Norway doesnt join the EU because it would break up all its state owned oil companies

[globaltraveller]

So this programme wasn't propaganda then, just that you didn't like what it said, which you agree is true. Perhaps that is nearer to the truth. After all revenue is dependent not so much upon the quantity of oil produced but price, and more crucially, the fiscal regime in place at a given time.

What would Scotland do? Perhaps you might concern yourself with the more likely scenario of the rest of the UK having to import 100% of its oil requirements.

[g0thicd0llyx]

We should break free from uk and laugh at them sruggling for oil lol.. only kidding.. i understand the uk is a country and scotland is not an island :)

[SuckMeDryBiyatch]

lmfao :=) i think you should break free from uk and take that ugly fat bastard gordon brown with ya,shoot him and bury him in the woods :=),if loads of oil in north sea why we nicking it off ragheads ? not that i really care at all,wars cool,and so is theft,lets rock on dudes :D

[melnick1985]

why do they call Scotland a country?

[g0thicd0llyx]

Nah you's can keep him paul, think of him as a wee present looool :D .. @ melnick, watch a film called braveheart :) freeeeeedoooom hehe....x

[L3wis1]

braveheart- completely innacurate and misses out a number of years of william wallace's life.

[PeelTower]

same reason they call England a country.

[deadeye012006]

oh please north sea oil is almost 10 years past its peak production and is running out fast now lets set are sights to where there are real oil reserves like the Falklands witch are still untapped and keep Britain as a big player in the world and keep are fuel independent from Russian control unlike the rest of Europe who bed over and take it up the ass from Moscow these days .

[1V4Victory1]

How come if we produce more oil than kuwait we have to pay the more than any other country for oil!

[PeelTower]

Because greedy men rip us off. Part of growing up is to realize that those who govern us and their friends in big business don't have any notion of national loyalty. Loyalty is a thing the poor give to the rich. Fighting in wars, working like dogs, paying taxes - all of these things are what the rich expect the rest to do. They don't and they never have. We pay so much because we are docile fuckers. We are inert. We are suckers. We are fucked every day of the week. Everything cost more here.

[manatthewindow]

What a magnificent job the London-based media have done in keeping the truth about Scotland's oil out of sight and out of mind.

Independence now!

Quislings like Brown and Darling are the enemies of Scotland.

[hoopybhoy74]

we produce more oil than kuwait!!! why are we never told this shit, for fucks sake, independence today, now, snp now!!!

[alexairlie]

Hi,I have just watched this vid ,absolutely superb !!

[Nakedtrampwarrior]

I got this on DVD from the library at uni, its a total beauty.