Spot-on analysis of the bid. You're right, FIFA doesn't want the USA to be a soccer power. Sepp Blatter is essentially a gold-digger. If it weren't for our money, he wouldn't want anything to do with us.
There is no hate in this piece, so you're the truly ignorant one. Point out at what point they say something "hateful"? Actually, its your comments above that are in fact "hateful". You say "Americans are truely ignorant"--isn't that an over-generalization and bigoted thing to say. The world doesn't hate Americans--that's another idiotic thing to say.
@dwreck1971 ohohohhhhh I can point out a lot. First off, 2:03. Thought police? IS that even supposed to be funny? You know he said it to make fun of Qataris. 2:21, made fun of the royal family. I'd say more but I stopped watching from there.
First, the "world" does not "hate" America. Some people do. But not all. Second, not ALL Americans ridicule football. Some do. If you want to HATE a whole country because "Some" people ridicule football (a game), then you go right ahead and continue to be a total freaking idiot. Idiots like you are dinosaurs.
THIS IS UNFORTUNATE TO BE FROM A COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN DUDE ...ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS ALCOHOL WHICH MOST LIKELY WHAT MADE YOU AS A LOOSER AND HATERED TO GIViNg OTHERs OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHER COUNTRIES ...WHICH i THINK IT IS MOST LIKELY TOWARD MIDDLE EAST >>>> PETROLIUM PETROLIUM ...WAKE UP DOUCH WITHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST U LL BE A CAVE DOG RIDING A DOG AND FORNIKATING COWS ....peace
You're a small minded-toad who can't pick up on SARCASM and EXAGGERATION. Look them up, they are literary tools. IE. He was kidding about the alcohol! And I think its YOUR bigotry that comes thru more than anything else in your statement...
Only 1 stadium is planned to be dismantled (Doha Port Stadium), the others will be kept intact, except the modular upper tier of some (reducing capacity for local needs). 11 of the 12 2022 wc stadiums are going to be built to stay. This was the most repeated argument in this sore losers podcast, now it's debunked.
I'm not gonna waste my time debunking every single bullshit you mentioned (Aljazeera's leak lol).
First of all you have no sense of humor, as a lot of that was exaggeration....
2nd... WTF is Qatar going to do with 11 soccer stadiums? Lol!
You don't debunk exaggeration you fool! Do you really think that they think the stadiums will be built out of legos too?
Sore losers don't say things like, they wouldn't mind if the Aussies won it--or if a different Middle Eastern nation won it who had some WC pedigree. You need to clean your ears out as you missed the whole point...
Actually, I just checked the Qatari bid again, and you need to do your homework. Much more than ONE stadium will be torn down and "donated" to lesser nations... DO YOUR HOMEWORK before leaving garbage commentary... Here is more: SYDNEY (AP) -"Australia's sports minister says Qatar's plan to ship surplus stadiums to developing nations and its contribution to Middle East peace appear to have clinched it the 2022 World Cup."
@alameri88 i could argue that frogs do not exist, but without linking proof would you believe me? Everything i've heard and read states that they will be dismantling their stadiums and donating them to countries in need. Do you have any evidence proving otherwise? Also, do people not even listen? They bashed their own bid as well. How strange people are quick to ignore that aspect of the show
Good point. It is amazing that people seem to ignore that the hosts actually bashed the US Bid presenters as well. That doesn't sound like "sour grapes" to me.
From the actual Qatari bid: "After the FIFA World Cup™, these stadiums will be partially deconstructed, allowing us to build 22 new stadiums in the developing world. The technologies we are developing to cool our stadiums will also be made available for use around the world."
As I said, and as you came to the conclusion of after reading the Qatari bid, only "seats" from the upper modular tiers in stadiums are going to be dismantled to help build stadiums in developing countries. The only stadium that is going to be "torn down" is Doha Port Stadium as I've stated in my original reply.
It's true you guys tried to envelope your bashing with humor, but it was more stupid than funny honestly. It was the day of the decision so I guess emotions were dominant.
@alameri88 there is a lot more to a stadium then just seats. Their bid specifically states "these stadiums will be partially deconstructed, allowing us to build 22 new stadiums in the developing world." And while the "partially deconstructed" fits your explanation, i will argue that there is more to a stadium then just seats. At that point, how will partially deconstructing stadiums (seats only) allow them to build 22 new stadiums to those who need them??
"Modular components will be used in building most of these stadiums. Qatar is developing rapidly, but will not need this level of seating capacity after the FIFA World Cup™. To solve the problem of possible “white elephants” while ensuring a lasting legacy, 170,000 seats from our stadiums will be modular. After the tournament, we will donate this modular seating to developing nations around the world, creating 22 beautiful stadiums."
Then really, in essence they are in all practicality "tearing them down" but for the bottom levels and some grass. I just think you're splitting hairs here. That's not the crux of their argument anyhow. They're not picking on them because they dislike Qatari's or they're sore losers (one of them brings up Kuwait or UAE I think as teams who have qualified before) its the concern that Qatar is too poor of a team to qualify for the WC.
To add however, according to you, the Qatari's are gonna ship a bunch of seats to lesser nations and say: "You wanted a fuggin stadium? Well, here are some fuggin seats--go build yourself a stadium, beatch. And don't complain, those are top of the line seats. "
Nah, it won't be just grass and bottom lvls... or is this a continuation of the "exaggeration" of this podcast? lol. Stadiums will completely keep their exterior, they are designed in such a way. i.e That boat stadium won't be HALF a boat after the tournament lmao, neither will the seashell stadium etc...
That is not how they explained it at all during the bidding process discussions. So, according to you these poor countries will only get "seats" donated to them after the WC and that is it? Just to be clear.
As for Qatar's national team, you're diving deeper into irrelevancy here. In no fifa book of hosting world cups is there a certain minimum requirement for fifa ranking, or past participation in wc, or country size, or population. In 12 years I'm pretty sure Qatar can produce a competent squad... or buy one lololololol.
No, its not in a book anywhere. But it IN FACT has been part of many FIFA discussions in the past (I brought up 1994). If you read FIFA's history they have always tried to picked hosts who would more than likely be strong enough to qualify anyhow. Obviously this trend seemed to end when they picked S Africa in 2010.
I think Andorra should bid for the 2026 World Cup! How about the Fiji or Cape Verde Islands!!!
@alameri88 so Qatar will be donating modular seats. While commendable there is still a lot more to a stadium than seats. Logically, they wouldnt be "creating 22 beautiful stadiums", they'd merely be cutting down the costs of material.
That is true, can't argue with that at the moment.
Though I'm completely baffled by why you guys are soooo worried about what Qatar will do with its OWN stadiums after hosting the world cup... hypocrisy much?
I just want you to know "you guys" is not "me". They don't respond here. But I have to say a lot of posters have come here with very little sense of humor and not noting the exaggeration and sarcasm in this piece...I will say this--many of the FIFA voters were under a very different impression about the stadiums than you state here.
you just watch the matches & then give your evaluation
In addition, Qatar hosted the Asian games in 2006 which is almost like the the Olympic games but it's limited to Asian countries, it was highly successful hosting. you can refer to some videos in "Youtube" :)
However,good luck in other events "Freedom country " :P
lol, these comments are as bad as the Group D prediction when the Serbian posters went crazy with hate when Derek and Brett both had Serbia finishing last. The generic "typical stupid americans dont know anything about football" or "stick to baseball, basketball, etc..." And then what happened? Serbia finished dead last. Brett even had the entire group prediction right if i recall.
Honestly people, loosen up. Personal attacks only make you look foolish
The powers of interpretation here are not good. Stop with the "sore losers" garbage. I think they made ti clear they would have been happy to lose to someone else--they merely disagree with awarding the WC to a team who is ranked right next to Thailand in the World Rankings.
@dwreck1971 I only listened to about a minute/ minute and a half of this (it was that bad); but long enough to see it was just some guy winging, gratingly, insufferably (not even in a comic vein, but quite earnestly). As for the supposed 'reasons' for disagreeing with FIFA's choice of Qatar as hosts - that Qatar is a small nation, and that their national side is low down in the rankings - well, that's just stupid; those things, especially the latter, are completely insignificant...
@dwreck1971 Right. I have to hand it to you, that completely clinches the argument... I take it you're American. So let me spell it out for you. Rankings have never been a significant factor in selecting World Cup hosts - for the obvious reason that they're irrelevant. The rankings have to do with how good the national side is at *playing* football; they have nothing to do with the potential for *hosting* competitions.
I'm actually German, and you're full of complete crap. The WC committee made it perfectly clear that the US might lose the 94 bid if they didn't qualify for the 1990 WC... I think you need to brush up on your own history before you put people down for being "American"--as if that somehow makes you more knowledgeable then them JUST for that reason..... And since rankings have nothing to do with hosting a World Cup, name a host in the past whose rank has been anywhere near this low.
@dwreck1971 I don't remember the 1994 American bid - but I'll defer to your minute recherches on this point in assuming you're correct. Howbeit, the pedantic little German mole that you are, you've still failed to see the larger and essential point - that how one plays football has little or no bearing on how well one can host a tournament.
I'm quite sure there's never been a host country so lowly ranked as Qatar. But what do you suppose that means? To repeat, it does *not* mean that . . .
@euclidxxx [continued] ...how well one plays football (which is the only thing in question where rankings are concerned) is intrinsically important or related to how well a nation may be expected to host the World Cup. "[Your] powers of interpretation here are not good" (as you might say). All it means is that in the process of FIFA's global expansion of the sport its orbit increasingly includes nations that do not have a strong footballing tradition - and as such, they will tend . . .
@euclidxxx [continued] ...to be ranked much lower as football playing nations (to state the bleeding obvious, again). Moreover, if no country ranked so low as Qatar has previously even *bid* to host the World Cup, it's hardly likely then that any previous hosts will have been as lowly ranked, is it?
Frankly, this is not the sort of thing I call "history", and I have no intention of "brushing up on it" - I strongly urge you to get a life.
@euclidxxx "I strongly urge you to get a life. " says the guy arguing with him on youtube. His comment about US 94 WC is in fact history. If you were unaware of it, perhaps you should brush up on it. Your arrogance ruined what could have been a decent argument. Ultimately, where someone is from is no indication of their knowledge of the sport. Refrain from personal attacks as they downplay your actual point.
@otergod Re 'personal attacks', I gave as good as I got - par for the course, if you will. And my point - FIFA rankings are irrelevant - obviously stands on its own merits, irrespective of my or anyone else's 'arrogance'. 'Knowledge of the sport' too is, in a sense, irrelevant, as the said point is self-sufficiently (and self-evidently)
@euclidxxx [cont'd] true, sans need of recourse to trivia (it follows that I have no need of 'brushing up on history' - it wouldn't add anything to the strength of the point in question, as indicated).
@euclidxxx i took it as d-wreck arguing the point that rankings do matter when it comes to hosting as he was pointing out that FIFA told US they had to qualify for the 1990 in order to hold it.
In the end, i dont think it was ever questioned IF they could host well, but rather SHOULD they host it. Outside of having loads of money to spend on a glamorous WC, what else? Both have also stated they are all for the Middle East to host it.
@euclidxxx the "knowledge" comment was in reference to you claiming D-wreck must be american, as most who bring up the US in that sense typically mean that "americans dont know soccer". If that wasnt your reasoning then i retract the knowledge comment. Rankings are pretty irrelevant, but then again Qatar is granted what could be their first WC finals spot strictly b/c they are host. Their ranking might not matter, but its quite the indication of their quality (with some give and take)
yall are all forgeting that it gets up to 120 degrees. its hard to keep my small house cool when its 100 outside. imagaine 8 huge cheaply made stadiums... i think this is a disaster waiting to happen
It still doesn't change that NO team/country has ever been awarded a World Cup with such little World Cup pedigree and ranked 113th in the World. The guys on the show said they were for a Middle Eastern hosting, and would've gladly accepted losing to Australia... So, I don't think jealousy has much to do with it.
:"Qatar bans the importation of alcohol and it is a punishable offense to drink alcohol or be drunk in public. Offenders may incur a prison sentence or deportation. Alcohol is, however, available at licensed hotel restaurants and bars, and non-Muslim expatriates living in Qatar can obtain alcohol on a permit system at the Qatar Distribution Center, the only distributor allowed to sell alcohol. "
to be fair guys, while they did bash the Qatar bid, they also bashed the US bid as well. Personally now that they have it, i hope they put forth an amazing World Cup, but much like the South Africa bid i have my concerns. Hopefully like the South Africa bid i'll be proven wrong
you are so ignorant... i'm a westerner, i live in qatar. we drink, qataris drink, we have nightclubs, we have some of the best stadiums already, you have NO idea how much effort they put into this bid in order for some racists such as you to open their eyes to the middle east. don't come to 2022, FINE, the 300 million arabs will gladly take your place :)
@youlovegeorgie personally i would like some insight into this topic. There are clubs you can purchase alcohol. But can you buy alcohol and drink it at home? From what ive read (though limited) you need a permit to buy alcohol, and i'm assuming thats only for a business. But can the average person in qatar go and buy a handle, take it home and enjoy it at their place of residence? This topic is interesting and i would appreciate if you could explain it. And dropping the race card?
@otergod any non-muslims can buy alcohol at the distributor, whether it is a business or not. we have a huge black market though. also they dont mind if you are muslim or not in clubs/bars aslong as you are not in the national dress. and it is an arrestable offense but you will not get caught unless someone reports you. they are dropping all of the laws for the month of the world cup (controversial), so it doesn't matter anyway
@youlovegeorgie Simma down Georgie Porgie. Spin it and candy coat it however you want. It doesn't change the fact that Qatar is going to get curb stomped worse than that dude in American History X. "I'm a westerner (I assume Canadian). I live in Qatar. We drink (From our one liquor store)." La-di-freakin-da. Want a blue ribbon? Not against the WC being hosted in Qatar. Just against shitty teams being granted free entrance because their nation is hosting. Cheers you smug bastard.
@youlovegeorgie Simma down Georgie Porgie. Spin it and candy coat it however you want. It doesn't change the fact that Qatar is going to get curb stomped worse than that dude in American History X. "I'm a westerner (I assume Canadian). I live in Qatar. We drink (From our one liquor store)." La-di-freakin-da. Want a blue ribbon? Not against the WC being hosted in Qatar. Just against shitty teams being granted free entrance because their nation is hosting. Cheers you smug bastard.
Actually Qatar has a big profile for athletic events, first is Asian games 2006 which was then taken to Beijing in 2008. Beer and Alcohol are allowed in hotels and other restaurants, however you will not see bars open near the street, watch their profile and what they are going to do, 2022 is a looong time, Africa wasn't that great, However Qatar was one of the best to host the Asian Games.. and basically the thing about arab petroleum is rather rude.. sorry
4 Words: Expect Amazing and Ghana. YESS!!!! Ghana should be the next host in 2026
bluebirdsora 3 months ago
Spot-on analysis of the bid. You're right, FIFA doesn't want the USA to be a soccer power. Sepp Blatter is essentially a gold-digger. If it weren't for our money, he wouldn't want anything to do with us.
izzyslash89 8 months ago
actually 12 stadiums....
appelmuncher 10 months ago
90th RANKED
YOANIMESF 11 months ago
then what?!
Qatar will buy every shit for you Americans
beer alcohol and discos so don't get mad because of this because Qatar can make 700 more stadiums if they'd have some more few kilometers
PowerOfStorm11 1 year ago
@PowerOfStorm11
You take things way too seriously....
dwreck1971 1 year ago
lol americans are truely ignorant, stupid, and hateful its hilarious!!!!!! and you wonder why the world hates you??? ha ha ha ha
fightathong 1 year ago
@fightathong
There is no hate in this piece, so you're the truly ignorant one. Point out at what point they say something "hateful"? Actually, its your comments above that are in fact "hateful". You say "Americans are truely ignorant"--isn't that an over-generalization and bigoted thing to say. The world doesn't hate Americans--that's another idiotic thing to say.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971 ohohohhhhh I can point out a lot. First off, 2:03. Thought police? IS that even supposed to be funny? You know he said it to make fun of Qataris. 2:21, made fun of the royal family. I'd say more but I stopped watching from there.
17amarafi 3 months ago
@dwreck1971 THE WORLD DOES HATE AMERICA BECAUSE YOU RIDICULE FOOTBALL(soccer) CALLING IT GAY AND PLAY THAT USELESS SPORT YOU REFER TO AS FOOTBALL
isaaccontractor 3 weeks ago
@isaaccontractor
First, the "world" does not "hate" America. Some people do. But not all. Second, not ALL Americans ridicule football. Some do. If you want to HATE a whole country because "Some" people ridicule football (a game), then you go right ahead and continue to be a total freaking idiot. Idiots like you are dinosaurs.
dwreck1971 3 weeks ago
THIS IS UNFORTUNATE TO BE FROM A COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN DUDE ...ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS ALCOHOL WHICH MOST LIKELY WHAT MADE YOU AS A LOOSER AND HATERED TO GIViNg OTHERs OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHER COUNTRIES ...WHICH i THINK IT IS MOST LIKELY TOWARD MIDDLE EAST >>>> PETROLIUM PETROLIUM ...WAKE UP DOUCH WITHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST U LL BE A CAVE DOG RIDING A DOG AND FORNIKATING COWS ....peace
shamy04 1 year ago
@shamy04
You're a small minded-toad who can't pick up on SARCASM and EXAGGERATION. Look them up, they are literary tools. IE. He was kidding about the alcohol! And I think its YOUR bigotry that comes thru more than anything else in your statement...
dwreck1971 1 year ago
Only 1 stadium is planned to be dismantled (Doha Port Stadium), the others will be kept intact, except the modular upper tier of some (reducing capacity for local needs). 11 of the 12 2022 wc stadiums are going to be built to stay. This was the most repeated argument in this sore losers podcast, now it's debunked.
I'm not gonna waste my time debunking every single bullshit you mentioned (Aljazeera's leak lol).
Suck it up.
alameri88 1 year ago
@alameri88
First of all you have no sense of humor, as a lot of that was exaggeration....
2nd... WTF is Qatar going to do with 11 soccer stadiums? Lol!
You don't debunk exaggeration you fool! Do you really think that they think the stadiums will be built out of legos too?
Sore losers don't say things like, they wouldn't mind if the Aussies won it--or if a different Middle Eastern nation won it who had some WC pedigree. You need to clean your ears out as you missed the whole point...
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971
I suppose they could fill some of those 11 stadiums after the WC with oil and money....
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@alameri88
Actually, I just checked the Qatari bid again, and you need to do your homework. Much more than ONE stadium will be torn down and "donated" to lesser nations... DO YOUR HOMEWORK before leaving garbage commentary... Here is more: SYDNEY (AP) -"Australia's sports minister says Qatar's plan to ship surplus stadiums to developing nations and its contribution to Middle East peace appear to have clinched it the 2022 World Cup."
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@alameri88 i could argue that frogs do not exist, but without linking proof would you believe me? Everything i've heard and read states that they will be dismantling their stadiums and donating them to countries in need. Do you have any evidence proving otherwise? Also, do people not even listen? They bashed their own bid as well. How strange people are quick to ignore that aspect of the show
otergod 1 year ago
@otergod
Good point. It is amazing that people seem to ignore that the hosts actually bashed the US Bid presenters as well. That doesn't sound like "sour grapes" to me.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@alameri88
From the actual Qatari bid: "After the FIFA World Cup™, these stadiums will be partially deconstructed, allowing us to build 22 new stadiums in the developing world. The technologies we are developing to cool our stadiums will also be made available for use around the world."
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971
As I said, and as you came to the conclusion of after reading the Qatari bid, only "seats" from the upper modular tiers in stadiums are going to be dismantled to help build stadiums in developing countries. The only stadium that is going to be "torn down" is Doha Port Stadium as I've stated in my original reply.
It's true you guys tried to envelope your bashing with humor, but it was more stupid than funny honestly. It was the day of the decision so I guess emotions were dominant.
alameri88 1 year ago
@alameri88 there is a lot more to a stadium then just seats. Their bid specifically states "these stadiums will be partially deconstructed, allowing us to build 22 new stadiums in the developing world." And while the "partially deconstructed" fits your explanation, i will argue that there is more to a stadium then just seats. At that point, how will partially deconstructing stadiums (seats only) allow them to build 22 new stadiums to those who need them??
otergod 1 year ago
@otergod
dude
"Modular components will be used in building most of these stadiums. Qatar is developing rapidly, but will not need this level of seating capacity after the FIFA World Cup™. To solve the problem of possible “white elephants” while ensuring a lasting legacy, 170,000 seats from our stadiums will be modular. After the tournament, we will donate this modular seating to developing nations around the world, creating 22 beautiful stadiums."
alameri88 1 year ago
@alameri88
Then really, in essence they are in all practicality "tearing them down" but for the bottom levels and some grass. I just think you're splitting hairs here. That's not the crux of their argument anyhow. They're not picking on them because they dislike Qatari's or they're sore losers (one of them brings up Kuwait or UAE I think as teams who have qualified before) its the concern that Qatar is too poor of a team to qualify for the WC.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971
I mean "compete" in the World Cup, not "qualify"
To add however, according to you, the Qatari's are gonna ship a bunch of seats to lesser nations and say: "You wanted a fuggin stadium? Well, here are some fuggin seats--go build yourself a stadium, beatch. And don't complain, those are top of the line seats. "
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971
Nah, it won't be just grass and bottom lvls... or is this a continuation of the "exaggeration" of this podcast? lol. Stadiums will completely keep their exterior, they are designed in such a way. i.e That boat stadium won't be HALF a boat after the tournament lmao, neither will the seashell stadium etc...
alameri88 1 year ago
@alameri88
That is not how they explained it at all during the bidding process discussions. So, according to you these poor countries will only get "seats" donated to them after the WC and that is it? Just to be clear.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@alameri88
I'm trying to understand your foggy explantion by using some humor, yes.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971
As for Qatar's national team, you're diving deeper into irrelevancy here. In no fifa book of hosting world cups is there a certain minimum requirement for fifa ranking, or past participation in wc, or country size, or population. In 12 years I'm pretty sure Qatar can produce a competent squad... or buy one lololololol.
alameri88 1 year ago
@alameri88
No, its not in a book anywhere. But it IN FACT has been part of many FIFA discussions in the past (I brought up 1994). If you read FIFA's history they have always tried to picked hosts who would more than likely be strong enough to qualify anyhow. Obviously this trend seemed to end when they picked S Africa in 2010.
I think Andorra should bid for the 2026 World Cup! How about the Fiji or Cape Verde Islands!!!
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@alameri88 so Qatar will be donating modular seats. While commendable there is still a lot more to a stadium than seats. Logically, they wouldnt be "creating 22 beautiful stadiums", they'd merely be cutting down the costs of material.
otergod 1 year ago
@otergod
That is true, can't argue with that at the moment.
Though I'm completely baffled by why you guys are soooo worried about what Qatar will do with its OWN stadiums after hosting the world cup... hypocrisy much?
alameri88 1 year ago
@alameri88
I just want you to know "you guys" is not "me". They don't respond here. But I have to say a lot of posters have come here with very little sense of humor and not noting the exaggeration and sarcasm in this piece...I will say this--many of the FIFA voters were under a very different impression about the stadiums than you state here.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@alameri88
You haven't debunked anything but your own BIG MOUTH.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
The Asian cup is coming soon in Qatar
you just watch the matches & then give your evaluation
In addition, Qatar hosted the Asian games in 2006 which is almost like the the Olympic games but it's limited to Asian countries, it was highly successful hosting. you can refer to some videos in "Youtube" :)
However,good luck in other events "Freedom country " :P
Subtitledclips 1 year ago
@Subtitledclips
Well at least you were nice about it....
dwreck1971 1 year ago
lol, these comments are as bad as the Group D prediction when the Serbian posters went crazy with hate when Derek and Brett both had Serbia finishing last. The generic "typical stupid americans dont know anything about football" or "stick to baseball, basketball, etc..." And then what happened? Serbia finished dead last. Brett even had the entire group prediction right if i recall.
Honestly people, loosen up. Personal attacks only make you look foolish
otergod 1 year ago
Yayks! Talk about bad losers!
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx
The powers of interpretation here are not good. Stop with the "sore losers" garbage. I think they made ti clear they would have been happy to lose to someone else--they merely disagree with awarding the WC to a team who is ranked right next to Thailand in the World Rankings.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971 I only listened to about a minute/ minute and a half of this (it was that bad); but long enough to see it was just some guy winging, gratingly, insufferably (not even in a comic vein, but quite earnestly). As for the supposed 'reasons' for disagreeing with FIFA's choice of Qatar as hosts - that Qatar is a small nation, and that their national side is low down in the rankings - well, that's just stupid; those things, especially the latter, are completely insignificant...
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx
insignificant... And if you thought that was earnest then you have no sense of humor.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971 Right. I have to hand it to you, that completely clinches the argument... I take it you're American. So let me spell it out for you. Rankings have never been a significant factor in selecting World Cup hosts - for the obvious reason that they're irrelevant. The rankings have to do with how good the national side is at *playing* football; they have nothing to do with the potential for *hosting* competitions.
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx
I'm actually German, and you're full of complete crap. The WC committee made it perfectly clear that the US might lose the 94 bid if they didn't qualify for the 1990 WC... I think you need to brush up on your own history before you put people down for being "American"--as if that somehow makes you more knowledgeable then them JUST for that reason..... And since rankings have nothing to do with hosting a World Cup, name a host in the past whose rank has been anywhere near this low.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971 I don't remember the 1994 American bid - but I'll defer to your minute recherches on this point in assuming you're correct. Howbeit, the pedantic little German mole that you are, you've still failed to see the larger and essential point - that how one plays football has little or no bearing on how well one can host a tournament.
I'm quite sure there's never been a host country so lowly ranked as Qatar. But what do you suppose that means? To repeat, it does *not* mean that . . .
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx [continued] ...how well one plays football (which is the only thing in question where rankings are concerned) is intrinsically important or related to how well a nation may be expected to host the World Cup. "[Your] powers of interpretation here are not good" (as you might say). All it means is that in the process of FIFA's global expansion of the sport its orbit increasingly includes nations that do not have a strong footballing tradition - and as such, they will tend . . .
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx [continued] ...to be ranked much lower as football playing nations (to state the bleeding obvious, again). Moreover, if no country ranked so low as Qatar has previously even *bid* to host the World Cup, it's hardly likely then that any previous hosts will have been as lowly ranked, is it?
Frankly, this is not the sort of thing I call "history", and I have no intention of "brushing up on it" - I strongly urge you to get a life.
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx "I strongly urge you to get a life. " says the guy arguing with him on youtube. His comment about US 94 WC is in fact history. If you were unaware of it, perhaps you should brush up on it. Your arrogance ruined what could have been a decent argument. Ultimately, where someone is from is no indication of their knowledge of the sport. Refrain from personal attacks as they downplay your actual point.
otergod 1 year ago
@otergod Re 'personal attacks', I gave as good as I got - par for the course, if you will. And my point - FIFA rankings are irrelevant - obviously stands on its own merits, irrespective of my or anyone else's 'arrogance'. 'Knowledge of the sport' too is, in a sense, irrelevant, as the said point is self-sufficiently (and self-evidently)
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx [cont'd] true, sans need of recourse to trivia (it follows that I have no need of 'brushing up on history' - it wouldn't add anything to the strength of the point in question, as indicated).
euclidxxx 1 year ago
@euclidxxx i took it as d-wreck arguing the point that rankings do matter when it comes to hosting as he was pointing out that FIFA told US they had to qualify for the 1990 in order to hold it.
In the end, i dont think it was ever questioned IF they could host well, but rather SHOULD they host it. Outside of having loads of money to spend on a glamorous WC, what else? Both have also stated they are all for the Middle East to host it.
otergod 1 year ago
@euclidxxx the "knowledge" comment was in reference to you claiming D-wreck must be american, as most who bring up the US in that sense typically mean that "americans dont know soccer". If that wasnt your reasoning then i retract the knowledge comment. Rankings are pretty irrelevant, but then again Qatar is granted what could be their first WC finals spot strictly b/c they are host. Their ranking might not matter, but its quite the indication of their quality (with some give and take)
otergod 1 year ago
yall are all forgeting that it gets up to 120 degrees. its hard to keep my small house cool when its 100 outside. imagaine 8 huge cheaply made stadiums... i think this is a disaster waiting to happen
adub4ever 1 year ago
I'm not sure you really know what a redneck is... So, thanks for the "dumbwitted" comment.
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dwreck1971 1 year ago
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USA 1994.
South Korea and Japan 2002.
Australia is not football nation (rugby and cricket her national sports).
What are the criteria that make country deserve to be a winner?
Qatar has them all.
Money, low crime rate, the whole region support it and love football.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me ask you question.
When the right time football comes to Middle East?
Ladies and gentlemen, the time has come.
The time is NOW.
SharedJoy 1 year ago
congratulation Qatar
MrKimou1 1 year ago
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falconacademy 1 year ago
I thinks its clear that you must have a sense of humor to listen to this podcast... A lot of this sounds very tongue in cheek.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
Qatar is the best to hold the 2022 FIFA World Cup
msqtr2 1 year ago
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U guys spent 14 minutes expressing your Jealousy, grow. Read Qatar's file is much better than the US one.
0000mana 1 year ago
@0000mana
It still doesn't change that NO team/country has ever been awarded a World Cup with such little World Cup pedigree and ranked 113th in the World. The guys on the show said they were for a Middle Eastern hosting, and would've gladly accepted losing to Australia... So, I don't think jealousy has much to do with it.
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@dwreck1971 I don't think hosting have any thing to do with national team ranking, otherwise world cup will be always in Europe and South America.
while the US file bidding on changing couple of 'football stadium' Qatar is going to build 11 new ones and spend 100 billion $ :p
any way i think Qatar dissevers it, it was an astonishing file
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0000mana 1 year ago
well perhaps wiki provides the answers
:"Qatar bans the importation of alcohol and it is a punishable offense to drink alcohol or be drunk in public. Offenders may incur a prison sentence or deportation. Alcohol is, however, available at licensed hotel restaurants and bars, and non-Muslim expatriates living in Qatar can obtain alcohol on a permit system at the Qatar Distribution Center, the only distributor allowed to sell alcohol. "
otergod 1 year ago
to be fair guys, while they did bash the Qatar bid, they also bashed the US bid as well. Personally now that they have it, i hope they put forth an amazing World Cup, but much like the South Africa bid i have my concerns. Hopefully like the South Africa bid i'll be proven wrong
otergod 1 year ago
comon guys don't be like that
kamted 1 year ago
you are so ignorant... i'm a westerner, i live in qatar. we drink, qataris drink, we have nightclubs, we have some of the best stadiums already, you have NO idea how much effort they put into this bid in order for some racists such as you to open their eyes to the middle east. don't come to 2022, FINE, the 300 million arabs will gladly take your place :)
youlovegeorgie 1 year ago
@youlovegeorgie personally i would like some insight into this topic. There are clubs you can purchase alcohol. But can you buy alcohol and drink it at home? From what ive read (though limited) you need a permit to buy alcohol, and i'm assuming thats only for a business. But can the average person in qatar go and buy a handle, take it home and enjoy it at their place of residence? This topic is interesting and i would appreciate if you could explain it. And dropping the race card?
otergod 1 year ago
@otergod any non-muslims can buy alcohol at the distributor, whether it is a business or not. we have a huge black market though. also they dont mind if you are muslim or not in clubs/bars aslong as you are not in the national dress. and it is an arrestable offense but you will not get caught unless someone reports you. they are dropping all of the laws for the month of the world cup (controversial), so it doesn't matter anyway
youlovegeorgie 1 year ago
@youlovegeorgie
I think you need to have a sense of humor...
dwreck1971 1 year ago
@youlovegeorgie Simma down Georgie Porgie. Spin it and candy coat it however you want. It doesn't change the fact that Qatar is going to get curb stomped worse than that dude in American History X. "I'm a westerner (I assume Canadian). I live in Qatar. We drink (From our one liquor store)." La-di-freakin-da. Want a blue ribbon? Not against the WC being hosted in Qatar. Just against shitty teams being granted free entrance because their nation is hosting. Cheers you smug bastard.
FootUnderground 1 year ago
@youlovegeorgie Simma down Georgie Porgie. Spin it and candy coat it however you want. It doesn't change the fact that Qatar is going to get curb stomped worse than that dude in American History X. "I'm a westerner (I assume Canadian). I live in Qatar. We drink (From our one liquor store)." La-di-freakin-da. Want a blue ribbon? Not against the WC being hosted in Qatar. Just against shitty teams being granted free entrance because their nation is hosting. Cheers you smug bastard.
FootUnderground 1 year ago
Russia also won, why not compare aswell.. but being bitter wont change the fact, i respect your opinion but its rather invalid
PumpkinHead223 1 year ago
Actually Qatar has a big profile for athletic events, first is Asian games 2006 which was then taken to Beijing in 2008. Beer and Alcohol are allowed in hotels and other restaurants, however you will not see bars open near the street, watch their profile and what they are going to do, 2022 is a looong time, Africa wasn't that great, However Qatar was one of the best to host the Asian Games.. and basically the thing about arab petroleum is rather rude.. sorry
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