Awesome, loved the video. I have a .204 in a T/C predator and it shoots sub MOA. And believe me I am no MOA shooter but this combo makes me look like a sniper. I had a guy bet me a $100 bucks he could out shoot me with his custom rifle chambered in a .22 ppc and I took him up on it for fun. Needless to say I was 100 bucks richer by the end of that little season...Lol Hope you have as much fun with your .204 as I have with mine!
I have the same rifle but put a Mueller 8-24 x40mm scope on it and I am shooting 1 1/2 groups at 200 yards...at 100 and less you should be cutting the same hole.....no excuses.....
i ant saying it isnt but the energy is pathtic. 22 250 is much more of a rifle in my own opion. im shooting h380 42 grains of powder with a 52 grain bullit at 4236 in my chrono thats just as fast as the 204 with more energy at that range
dude im sorry bout i dont know how you can shoot a yote at 300 to 500 yards when your groups are a inch and half at 50 your groups are 3 feet at that distance 204 are a powerless round the energy sucks past 200 get a 22 250
@joshua12345j Do some ballistic charts on the hornady 40 gr. v-max, No problem tagging yotes or fox at 500 yards. If you knew what it is actually doing at those ranges you will see that it is more than enough for any varmint or predator.
@joshua12345j lol, if you think a 11/2 in group at 50 yds gives a 3 ft group at 500 yds it might explain why you think you're tossing 52 gr.bullets at 4236 fps out of a 22-250. I think the video was well done and see nothing that anyone should be jumping on the guys for. Although I have never owned or fired a .204, I do realise what they are capable of. For the record I shoot Savage 12FVSS Ackley Improved 22-250,I'm no noob when it comes to fast bullets.
@m71win i know what my fucking gun is shooting i crono it. for the record i shoot a low profile varmiter savage 22 250 26inch heavy barrel go look at some ballistics charts. if you didnt know all the max loads they give you isnt really maX they do that for your saftey. im shooing way above max. So go bye some more factorys and keep running your mouth about shit u think u know about. And bye the way i wasnt jumping on shit stating my opion thats what you get when you post a video
@joshua12345j LMAO,angry little fella aren't ya. O.K.,read my former statement again,then read your response,if you don't figure a couple things out repeat this sequence until you see the light.
@m71win im not angry at all and it was a figure of speech when i said 3 foot at 5oo. 1 1/2 group at 50 isnt that great. In my own opion. i chrono everything i shoot cause i load my own rounds. I dont see dropping coyots everyshot when your groups are that bad at fifty granted they probly ant hand loads but still. I know what you was saying in your first response.
and on any deer hunting show ever the never use anything less than a .243 and on that show they said he has to make the perfect shot of all they will have is a mad injured deer
@bobiscool308 It was on TV!? then it must be true... I am so glad that we have experts to take the responsibility for how we should and shouldn't do things... else how would we ever know, and when things go wrong we have someone to blame. I'm going to watch more TV in future.
in the description it says this is going to be your deer gun and just saying you should not hunt deer with such a low caliber i mean i know it halls ass but you should hunt deer with a bigger caliber like a .270, .300 win mag, or 30-06 for more knockdown power to not let it suffer and with a bigger caliber there is less margin for error if you make a less than perfect shot
@bobiscool308 Not so. It's a tired old argument, and everyone is getting tired of it. A badly placed 06 round is just as bad as a badly placed 204. A fuckup is a fuckup (pardon my french) regardless of caliber. A good head/neck shot with .204 will nail the animal to the ground. People who hunt for meat know this. Explain how the margin of error works for us... are you saying a gut shot with an 06 is better than a gut shot with a 204? Respect for game means not letting this happen.
@bobiscool308 "Like it is supposed to be shot at" I'm sorry, I must have been out of the office, shooting, when "we" all sat around, theorized, and voted on that.
I've had nothing but luck with Hornady SSTs in my .308. It's zeroed at 200 and touches 5 just over the size of a quarter. So, the gun is the problem, not the bullets.
so if you have good luck with a bullet there good i think not there are so many variables from gun to gun my gun is not the problem any shooter will tell u sierra bullets are way better than hornadys 5 shots at 200 size of quarter if i cant cover 5 shots with a dime at 200 im not happy
It's also the question of my optics I currently have. I don't have the greatest scope right now. It gets the job done, sure. But, for the gun, it's OBVIOUSLY not the right choice. 700 Police .308. And I have a Bushnell Elite on there right now. Eventually being replaced with either a Leupold Mark 4 or Nightforce... But that's a while away. Then, I can guarantee it will group better.
No doubt they're great for the money. I bought my dad one for his old 700 30-06 that he bought when he was 15. It's a sweet ass gun, but the old shitty scope was way past gone. I bought an Elite 3200 3-9X50, and it is perfect for that gun.
one thing that might help with accuracy is if you free float the barrel, it makes me mad to hear the gun does not have a free floated barrel because i wanna get one, another thing that i dont know for sure, is if the rifle is bedded good, because thats another key to accuracy
nah, don't go shootin up at pine cones. Decent patter on a bi-pod... in the snow. Speaking of which, marching up and down that road in 6-8" of snow makes for a pretty long day... but ah... you're young!!! Keep shootin! Peace
yeah your right on with that idea i was only meaning if somebody is target shooting or if they're trying to see how good the gun itself shoots then you always wanna try to eliminate all human error possible, but yeah the bipods are fine used the way you said and you shot a decent group with em, i mostly hunt with mine too, even deer
i gotta say 4 everybody not gettin' great groups with their 204, just keep practicing and try sandbags rather than pods so there's less room 4 human error, the gun is one of the most accurate and furthest shooting guns i've seen and i like the hornady v-max 32 gr. remember it's easy to miss by an inch just from breathing or heartbeat try to have the gun supported by only the sand bags as your barely holding it. you should "cut holes" at 50-100 yards, 1-2 in. groups 2-300 seriously!
believe me, this gun can shoot 400 yards easy, possibly 500. the farthest i have shot this gun is about 300 at some yotes which are now hung up in my garage. past 300yds and my aim starts to go. it is more about the shooters skills than the rifle. i know the .204 can put them out there. if i shoot some more video this fall or winter i'll make sure to post it.
barnes suck we couldnt load half of em they were the wrong size i only 39 gr. sierra blitzkings super explosive super accurate sierra offers these bullets for 223 204 243 love em its all we use if you want bigger and good for long range use 50 gr bergers
its ignorant to say hornady sucks. it would be more intelligent to say you gun does not shoot hornady well. i shoot hornady .204's and drive tacks out to 450. some guns shoot some ammo better than others. anybody reading this try hornady its good stuff
if you shoot 50 bergers out of that rifle, your accuracy will be really terrible. that is a 1-12 barrel, you need one in 1-10 or faster for the 50 + 55 bullets
yes in .224 dia, those bullets are reletively short. in .204 dia a 1-12 is not enough to stabilize bullets as long as the 50 and 55 bergers. think of the bullet like a top, the longer it is, the faster you gotta spin it to keep it up.
'magine that! and a .223 to boot according to your other comment, and 1-12 is plenty to stabilize a 50 in 223 but not in .204 the 50 .204 is about equivilent to a 70 223, which is a 1-7 twist ONLY bullet
What do you guys think is a better varmint cartridge? The .223 or the .204? The .223 is cheaper to buy where i live, but I've heard great things about the .204, is it worth the extra expense?
i use the factory horady. i realize i should be driving nails with these guys, it was hard to keep the bipod in the snow. my scope was a 3X9 too, so that didn't help me either...
my .204 has the same results with the hornady 40 grain ammo at 100 yards for some reason. My groups should be much better than what they are, so now im trying different ammo.
man you need to try some different load's what powder and primer's are you using you really should be putting bullets through the same hole especially at that distance
what rifle are you shooting im putting bullet's through the same hole using v-max 40g,cci small rilfe magnum primer's,hornady brass and 28g or bench mark 2 powder.mine was a ruger .223 that i had rebarreled to .204 with a 26inch barrel
i use winchester supreme its a 32 gr ballistic silvertip. thats about the only ammo my gun likes, i also noticed the lower the gr the better it shoots, this is the lowest gr i can find,
Nice shot. I still love the sound of that bolt being worked. I got one in a .308, still breaking it in, but it's grouping well. Get some duck tape and some rags to make a lil cheek rest. It really helps!
Awesome, loved the video. I have a .204 in a T/C predator and it shoots sub MOA. And believe me I am no MOA shooter but this combo makes me look like a sniper. I had a guy bet me a $100 bucks he could out shoot me with his custom rifle chambered in a .22 ppc and I took him up on it for fun. Needless to say I was 100 bucks richer by the end of that little season...Lol Hope you have as much fun with your .204 as I have with mine!
TCandWINMAN67 2 weeks ago
I have the same rifle but put a Mueller 8-24 x40mm scope on it and I am shooting 1 1/2 groups at 200 yards...at 100 and less you should be cutting the same hole.....no excuses.....
pmoper6128 2 months ago
Ya 1 1/2 grouping isn't tat great.Ive done better with my pellet gun
eddie870rem 8 months ago
Nice shot
eddie870rem 8 months ago
ura pretty good shot .....nice vid
parakketnut26940 1 year ago
i ant saying it isnt but the energy is pathtic. 22 250 is much more of a rifle in my own opion. im shooting h380 42 grains of powder with a 52 grain bullit at 4236 in my chrono thats just as fast as the 204 with more energy at that range
joshua12345j 1 year ago
@joshua12345j You might want to get your chronograph recalibrated,lol
m71win 1 year ago
dude im sorry bout i dont know how you can shoot a yote at 300 to 500 yards when your groups are a inch and half at 50 your groups are 3 feet at that distance 204 are a powerless round the energy sucks past 200 get a 22 250
joshua12345j 1 year ago
@joshua12345j Do some ballistic charts on the hornady 40 gr. v-max, No problem tagging yotes or fox at 500 yards. If you knew what it is actually doing at those ranges you will see that it is more than enough for any varmint or predator.
Velocity4000fps 1 year ago
@joshua12345j lol, if you think a 11/2 in group at 50 yds gives a 3 ft group at 500 yds it might explain why you think you're tossing 52 gr.bullets at 4236 fps out of a 22-250. I think the video was well done and see nothing that anyone should be jumping on the guys for. Although I have never owned or fired a .204, I do realise what they are capable of. For the record I shoot Savage 12FVSS Ackley Improved 22-250,I'm no noob when it comes to fast bullets.
m71win 1 year ago
@m71win i know what my fucking gun is shooting i crono it. for the record i shoot a low profile varmiter savage 22 250 26inch heavy barrel go look at some ballistics charts. if you didnt know all the max loads they give you isnt really maX they do that for your saftey. im shooing way above max. So go bye some more factorys and keep running your mouth about shit u think u know about. And bye the way i wasnt jumping on shit stating my opion thats what you get when you post a video
joshua12345j 1 year ago
@joshua12345j LMAO,angry little fella aren't ya. O.K.,read my former statement again,then read your response,if you don't figure a couple things out repeat this sequence until you see the light.
m71win 1 year ago
@m71win im not angry at all and it was a figure of speech when i said 3 foot at 5oo. 1 1/2 group at 50 isnt that great. In my own opion. i chrono everything i shoot cause i load my own rounds. I dont see dropping coyots everyshot when your groups are that bad at fifty granted they probly ant hand loads but still. I know what you was saying in your first response.
joshua12345j 1 year ago
and on any deer hunting show ever the never use anything less than a .243 and on that show they said he has to make the perfect shot of all they will have is a mad injured deer
bobiscool308 1 year ago
@bobiscool308 It was on TV!? then it must be true... I am so glad that we have experts to take the responsibility for how we should and shouldn't do things... else how would we ever know, and when things go wrong we have someone to blame. I'm going to watch more TV in future.
-=tpr=-
TheProRifle 1 year ago
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bobiscool308 1 year ago
in the description it says this is going to be your deer gun and just saying you should not hunt deer with such a low caliber i mean i know it halls ass but you should hunt deer with a bigger caliber like a .270, .300 win mag, or 30-06 for more knockdown power to not let it suffer and with a bigger caliber there is less margin for error if you make a less than perfect shot
bobiscool308 1 year ago
@bobiscool308 Not so. It's a tired old argument, and everyone is getting tired of it. A badly placed 06 round is just as bad as a badly placed 204. A fuckup is a fuckup (pardon my french) regardless of caliber. A good head/neck shot with .204 will nail the animal to the ground. People who hunt for meat know this. Explain how the margin of error works for us... are you saying a gut shot with an 06 is better than a gut shot with a 204? Respect for game means not letting this happen.
-=tpr=-
TheProRifle 1 year ago
@TheProRifle i am talking about a behind the shoulder blade shot like it is suppose to be shot at
bobiscool308 1 year ago
@bobiscool308 "Like it is supposed to be shot at" I'm sorry, I must have been out of the office, shooting, when "we" all sat around, theorized, and voted on that.
-=tpr=-
TheProRifle 1 year ago
@bobiscool308 Lean how to shoot. Then you won't feel the need to gut shoot your animal.
zxpress 1 year ago
@zxpress do you mean learn how to shoot
bobiscool308 1 year ago
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bobiscool308 1 year ago
@blackjerryboymetal Heavier bullet bucks the wind a bit better.
reno93535 1 year ago
that gun sounds like a cannon
96xr400 1 year ago
.204 is good varmint round until the wind picks up.
reno93535 2 years ago
no hornadys suck
midmomoney 2 years ago
I've had nothing but luck with Hornady SSTs in my .308. It's zeroed at 200 and touches 5 just over the size of a quarter. So, the gun is the problem, not the bullets.
390galaxie 2 years ago
so if you have good luck with a bullet there good i think not there are so many variables from gun to gun my gun is not the problem any shooter will tell u sierra bullets are way better than hornadys 5 shots at 200 size of quarter if i cant cover 5 shots with a dime at 200 im not happy
midmomoney 2 years ago
It's also the question of my optics I currently have. I don't have the greatest scope right now. It gets the job done, sure. But, for the gun, it's OBVIOUSLY not the right choice. 700 Police .308. And I have a Bushnell Elite on there right now. Eventually being replaced with either a Leupold Mark 4 or Nightforce... But that's a while away. Then, I can guarantee it will group better.
390galaxie 2 years ago
those elites are good glass i have a couple swfa ss 20x42 they are sweet and cheap
midmomoney 2 years ago
No doubt they're great for the money. I bought my dad one for his old 700 30-06 that he bought when he was 15. It's a sweet ass gun, but the old shitty scope was way past gone. I bought an Elite 3200 3-9X50, and it is perfect for that gun.
390galaxie 2 years ago
yeah, i agree. i've been shooting it for a year now and have become more comfortable with the rifle.
Hitlican 2 years ago
thats a horrible group for 50 yards
triplewhiper 2 years ago
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glocker2011 2 years ago
ya lol
triplewhiper 2 years ago
one thing that might help with accuracy is if you free float the barrel, it makes me mad to hear the gun does not have a free floated barrel because i wanna get one, another thing that i dont know for sure, is if the rifle is bedded good, because thats another key to accuracy
thebestjcc 2 years ago
how is the 204 ruger compared to the .223 rem. for noise? ( louder or quieter )
rtrapper4life 2 years ago
nah, don't go shootin up at pine cones. Decent patter on a bi-pod... in the snow. Speaking of which, marching up and down that road in 6-8" of snow makes for a pretty long day... but ah... you're young!!! Keep shootin! Peace
raidermike2005 2 years ago
i completely agree. i try to practice more with my bipod cause that's what i'll be hunting with, but as for the gun, it kicks ass.
Hitlican 2 years ago
yeah your right on with that idea i was only meaning if somebody is target shooting or if they're trying to see how good the gun itself shoots then you always wanna try to eliminate all human error possible, but yeah the bipods are fine used the way you said and you shot a decent group with em, i mostly hunt with mine too, even deer
yamahaboy84 2 years ago
i gotta say 4 everybody not gettin' great groups with their 204, just keep practicing and try sandbags rather than pods so there's less room 4 human error, the gun is one of the most accurate and furthest shooting guns i've seen and i like the hornady v-max 32 gr. remember it's easy to miss by an inch just from breathing or heartbeat try to have the gun supported by only the sand bags as your barely holding it. you should "cut holes" at 50-100 yards, 1-2 in. groups 2-300 seriously!
yamahaboy84 2 years ago
believe me, this gun can shoot 400 yards easy, possibly 500. the farthest i have shot this gun is about 300 at some yotes which are now hung up in my garage. past 300yds and my aim starts to go. it is more about the shooters skills than the rifle. i know the .204 can put them out there. if i shoot some more video this fall or winter i'll make sure to post it.
Hitlican 2 years ago
can u put some vids of u shooting farther with it im thinking about getting that same gun but want to see the accuracy at like 375 stuff like that
atvrider0009 2 years ago
good job . !!!
summit3030 2 years ago
the varmint grenade is only 26 grains. anyone tried it??
bedong77 2 years ago
barnes suck we couldnt load half of em they were the wrong size i only 39 gr. sierra blitzkings super explosive super accurate sierra offers these bullets for 223 204 243 love em its all we use if you want bigger and good for long range use 50 gr bergers
midmomoney 2 years ago
hornadys suck too
midmomoney 2 years ago
its ignorant to say hornady sucks. it would be more intelligent to say you gun does not shoot hornady well. i shoot hornady .204's and drive tacks out to 450. some guns shoot some ammo better than others. anybody reading this try hornady its good stuff
glocker2011 2 years ago
@midmomoney
if you shoot 50 bergers out of that rifle, your accuracy will be really terrible. that is a 1-12 barrel, you need one in 1-10 or faster for the 50 + 55 bullets
purpleqwerty22 2 years ago
they actually shoot pretty good i got a 223 with 1n12 and it shoots 40 50 60 gr bullets great
midmomoney 2 years ago
@midmomoney
yes in .224 dia, those bullets are reletively short. in .204 dia a 1-12 is not enough to stabilize bullets as long as the 50 and 55 bergers. think of the bullet like a top, the longer it is, the faster you gotta spin it to keep it up.
purpleqwerty22 2 years ago
well you need to to tell my gun that cause it doesnt know it shoots the 50s well
midmomoney 2 years ago
well jus checked my barell is a 1 n 10 twist thats why she likes 50s
midmomoney 2 years ago
@midmomoney
'magine that! and a .223 to boot according to your other comment, and 1-12 is plenty to stabilize a 50 in 223 but not in .204 the 50 .204 is about equivilent to a 70 223, which is a 1-7 twist ONLY bullet
purpleqwerty22 2 years ago
my 223 is 1 n 12 but shoots 40-60 grers good
midmomoney 2 years ago
i had no idea theres a .204 vtr
yaknowurright 2 years ago
What do you guys think is a better varmint cartridge? The .223 or the .204? The .223 is cheaper to buy where i live, but I've heard great things about the .204, is it worth the extra expense?
Ashweedy 2 years ago
Nice gun, my buddy just bought a VTR in .223
204 is neat though, cool little bullets.
gumby83 2 years ago
i use the factory horady. i realize i should be driving nails with these guys, it was hard to keep the bipod in the snow. my scope was a 3X9 too, so that didn't help me either...
Hitlican 3 years ago
scope has nothing to do with it man id say it's just ur rest or maybe ur load's to.are u realoding ur own ammo or just buying it.
hxcgrant 3 years ago
my .204 has the same results with the hornady 40 grain ammo at 100 yards for some reason. My groups should be much better than what they are, so now im trying different ammo.
roastedtyres 2 years ago
@Hitlican no to mention it was windy. AND cold. i feel ya man, use a 3x9 scope too.
SwaggerUSMCSniper 7 months ago
man you need to try some different load's what powder and primer's are you using you really should be putting bullets through the same hole especially at that distance
hxcgrant 3 years ago
come on, its a 204 shot 300 400 yrds. i have a 204 also, once you find good ammo you will shoot 1 holers at 100 yrds. my gun hates hornady ammo,
2001polaris 3 years ago
what rifle are you shooting im putting bullet's through the same hole using v-max 40g,cci small rilfe magnum primer's,hornady brass and 28g or bench mark 2 powder.mine was a ruger .223 that i had rebarreled to .204 with a 26inch barrel
hxcgrant 3 years ago
i use winchester supreme its a 32 gr ballistic silvertip. thats about the only ammo my gun likes, i also noticed the lower the gr the better it shoots, this is the lowest gr i can find,
2001polaris 3 years ago
what kind of ammo you using now? mine doesnt like hornady either for some reason.
roastedtyres 2 years ago
Nice shot. I still love the sound of that bolt being worked. I got one in a .308, still breaking it in, but it's grouping well. Get some duck tape and some rags to make a lil cheek rest. It really helps!
LoneWolf228 3 years ago
My Rem 700 SPS Varmint loves the 40 Gr's. I've got it zereod at 250 yds and it has no trouble dropping coyotes at that distance.
Racr350 3 years ago
it's a great cal isnt it my gun smith shoot's rabbit's at 437.44 yrds
hxcgrant 3 years ago