The argument made in the description of this show is really half assed. The argument seems to be "oh well there was a man in the royal family that was a Nazi, therefor you should do away with the royal family. " Not very fair or a sound argument.
Many British royals were pro-Hitler and pro-German in the 1930ies.
For the simple reason that they knew Germany was the only strong fortress against the Communist threat. The Royals logically feared the communists more than anyone else, because the Communists murdered the whole Russian Royal family in 1917.
Also, the Governor of the Bank of England, Sir Montague Norman. was a Hitler-Supporter and Nazi sympathizer.
Well, If you are all already enough of this German Royals, why not try the once Anglo-Norman Royals, the Plantagenets? The Brits got the Duke of Beaufort or the Earl of Loudon, Michael Abney-Hastings (Plantagenet). The Plantagenets got around 331 (1154-1485) years in the throne. The Tudors got around 118 years. The Stewarts, around 111 years. Well, the Hannovers (Windsors) are already 297 years in the throne (1714-Present). Well, this documentary will amount to nothing but a wishful thinking.
These bastards, Victoria, the cousines the Tsar of Russia, the kaiser of Germany and king George the fifth is responsible for throwing out 100 million workers to just die in the dirt. It all started after the first revolution attempt in Russia 1905. The massmurder was their answer to socialism. As usual. Humanity meets the murderers, and illwilling liars. Stalin was no socialist, as little as Adolf Hitler was. It is all british propaganda. Both of them where funded by british banks.
If you are trying to discredit monarchy by trying to associate it somehow with Nazi Germany your efforts are not successful. In Mein Kampf, Hitler constantly attacks the Hapsburg dynasty. He also refers to monarchists as "decadent beings" on pg 136 of Mein Kampf. Not to mention he made monarchist political movements illegal and broke up Monarchist rallies. Such as the one in honor of the Kaiser's 70th birthday.
I believe his stratagems to delay Hitler succeeded and saved England and the World from Nazi Domination. And, even after the War, he continued the artifice to help entrap escaped Nazis.
Such clandestine maneuvers, obviously required he play a Roll as Nazi Sympathizer, for which he was ruthlessly criticized.
I believe Edward was sustained in his will to duty, by honor and remembrance of Edward Augustus, Duke of Kent.
@bcpii the British Empire never fought the Nazi domination, you fool. She fought the whole German nation,
because Germany was - and still is - the dominating power on the continent and therefore Germany was Britain's biggest competitor.
This is due to Germany's natural position in the centre of Europe and to German mentality of hard work. I recommend you listen to your own Prime Minister Churchill' who said: "We do not fight the Hitler-regime but the strongest power on the continent".
In '36- the Gov. appeased Hitler & self-disarmed. Churchill said Hitler would attack, and was called a War Monger. Hopeless situation for a disarmed England! Did E. abdicate, fake his roll and position himself to mitigate harsh subjugation of England in future? In ‘40, did his words & dangerous wandering from Paris to Provence to Portugal, offer himself as “bait”, hoping to delay Hitler’s invasion past summer & radar setup? (Hitler did delay.) --Did Edward’s desperate acts save Briton?
Prince William & Kate Middleton are getting married on the same day that Adolph Hitler & Eva Braun are said to have been married. I wonder if that has anything to do with "tradition" or if it's just coincidence.
I'm still looking for the definitive proof that Hitler & Braun commiting suicide the day after they were said to have been married. Will Prince William & Kate Middleton, in keeping with "tradition", commit suicide on April 30th, 2011?
Oxford University Has Published A Book "THE MAKERS OF THE UNIVERSE", In Which They Have Enlisted 100 People Who Gave Remarkable Contribution To The World Over The Period Of 10,000 Years, Which Is Admired By The Entire UNIVERSE. In this List 1st Name Is "LORD GAUTAM BUDDHA" & 4th Is "Dr. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR" For Their Principle Of EQUANIMITY Which Is The Universal Solution For todays Burning World....
It is so upset to see family members want to murder each other, actually it is same fact in Asian as Chinese and Japanese also relatives. :( Why human being doing this?? Bother about born any kids. ?? I hate all wars and murders. Wish we will not see when we alive. :)
I believe Hilter probably shielded alot of the real horrors of the third reich from this man, and even if he did know, what would you have expected him to do. Britain crapped on him and germany crapped on him, and he did what anyone of us would do, continued to be a trooper(red cross) for the sake of his family and loved one's. He never left his post and he didn't desert germany even though the person running the war was an insane meglomaniac. That's why Hitler loved him because he loved germany
I think he may have been judged too harshly because unlike the queen today he had no choice but to adopt germany as his country at a young age, as a royal obligation that was out of his control. He served his country in WW1 as any loyal patriot would do for their country and what did he get in return for his sense of duty and loyalty - stripped of his titles by both Britain and germany. So, when Hitler came along what did you expect him to do, run back to britain? He never deserted his country
Indeed did Carl Eduard support the Nazi Party and Hitler. But he was inveigled like many other people. He was only a follower. After the "Night of the Long Knives" in 1934 he was on the list of the people to be arrested because he saved the lifes of a jewish family.
will someone please tell me why on earth does anyone put up with the monarchy? I am wondering why or what purpose are they? why give them a salary? why allow a nation to identify with them? If you know, please let me know...
dont forget the english government and the crown own all the channels they manipulate the people through media thats why english television is full of so much bullshit, it looks like a channel 4 mistake but i assure you the crown is behind it all, they have psychological advisers pulling all the strings, these cunts want to rule the world they cant share they think they are a super geneome. dirty cheating murderous scum what goes around will come around
London royals = World freemasonry London bankers = world zionism. without them, there would not have been world war I, Russian revolution, Soviet communism, nazi-Germany, world war II, and probably no world war III. World Freemasonry and World Judaism are two most dangerous powers to humanity. Catholic Church is only dangerous in so far it is infected by world Freemasonry. Third dangerous party is Islam, used by freemasonry to control the Arab countries.
Interesting that an heir to the English throne fought for the Kaiser in WW1, despite his wish not to face English troops. Fascinating, but a harbinger of the future problems, concerning conflicting loyalties for Charles Edward.
To 2vonwanke. It is a pity that Americans do not pay more attention to detail for if they did then perhaps the strategists in the White House and the Pentagon would have given just a little more thought to securing the peace in Iraq and not just winning the war - an indictment of US foreign policy over the last 50 years me thinks
What happened is that everyone including the Royals of Germany after loosing the World War l , after the German revolution the fall of the Kaiser ,Weimar, the financial mess almost every German had hopes that Hitler and the Nazi Party would restore order.How wrong they all were.
Most were in the 1930s. A little context is needed here. The Nazi regime was considered the legitimate head of Germany then, although never had a majority in the Reichstag prior to 1933. After WWI many monarchies had fallen or countries were in chaos. So with this situation they would court any in power that could restore them or keep them legitimate as had been done by Victor Emmanuel III and Mussolini. Fascism was on the rise in through out Europe so this wasn't unusual.
That does not qualify. This isn't an issue of who is legitimate and who is not in the world, its an issue of the particular role played by the British Head of State. What that role symbolizes, etc. I'm not commenting on the video. I'm commenting onr your absurdly ignorant and self limiting view on what is one of the oldest institutions in existance today. An institution that your fellow Americans revere and respect.
And apparently you choose to live in Disneyland. News for you we won the revolution, the British left and decided NOT to have a king to replace theirs. Time to turn Buckingham palace into condos!
Well if you knew anything about history, you couldn't actually say that we "won" the revolution. Rather the King and Prime Minister Pitt decided that the separation was better than continuing a war when other dangers were becoming more apparent. You cannot win this arguement. For all you have is petty insults, no actual complaints against the monarchy.
This is a little misleading. In 1899 when the reigning Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha died he was Queen Victoria's son! Prince Alfred the Duke of Edinburgh was Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's 2nd son. In 1892 Prince Albert's brother, Duke Ernst II of Coburg, died childless so the throne when to the nearest heir, Prince Alfred. This video makes it sound like Victoria was trying to control the succession when the truth is the succession was already governed by German law.
i object to you maing fun of this 'tradition' and making it sound like a bad thing!! yes this isnt a great moment in british monarchichal history but its full of nasty men who got away with stuff...hello!!! looks at henry VIII?! it doesnt detract from the great tradtions that poeple know and love.....and might i add that half the ppl who come to visit this tradition are americans....who cant get enough of it!!! so we love it and its here to stay :)
well its good to knw some americans appreciate it :D lol yeh it does get a bit silly all the "drama" that goes on....but more often than not its the papers making it sound bigger thsn it actually is!!!!
I think that american presidents are seen as much the same way as royals,they receive the same reverence ,that goes behond curiosity for the simple rich and famous.they detain in their hands the power of the most powerful nation on earth,wich accounts for much of the aura of misticism tha seems to suround them.they inspire awe even among their own people,and that is most remarkcable.they are adressed as mr. president even when no longer ocupy ing the post,they creat dynasties,one loves or hate
Well as an American I can tell you we don't look upon the PERSON as President as the British do a Royal. We respect the OFFICE of President not the person. Yes there a few of those like to romanticize it. We look at your monarchy with puzzlement and maybe an embodiment of your history. Much as we would if the French or Germans had theirs or we knew as much about the Scandinavian monarchs but believe me we don't look upon the President with mysticism. We impeached two and one resigned.
We don't! I said earlier "Yes there a few of those like to romanticize it. We look at your monarchy with puzzlement and maybe an embodiment of your history." Our office of president is in no way like the position of your monarchy. I think its been a while since you and your country men have overthrown a king or queen or asked for one's resignation and again as far as presidents go we've impeached two and one resigned So no we don't!
Oh for the love of god man, first and foremost anyone with a basic understanding of modern world history knows that Edward VIII was forced to abdicated for attempting to marry Walice Simpson. That was in the 1930's. Secondly, we Americans, as I am one too, do not look upon the monarchy with "puzzlement". We revere the monarch just as much as the British people do. Evidence of which can be seen by the Queen's most recent visit to America. Don't paint the wrong picture about your countryman.
Showing a welcome to a ceremonial head of state is in no way equal to accepting it as a legitimate way to govern. Most Americans think of the monarchy in the way Disney portrays it, a fantasy, and that in a modern age that a society would prop this up is puzzlement. We don't have that historical trajectory. We are curious about it but we truly do not understand it. 2nd I said nothing about Edward/Simpson and for those Americans in the 1930s that cared it was a romance story to them. Period!
First off, you stated that the British had not asked their monarch to resign, which in regards to Edward VIII, they did.
Secondly, no Head of State, other than the Pope recieves the sort of grandeur given to the Queen. We, as we have for the entirety of our existance understand that the Monarch is the source of legitimate governance of the United Kingdom. The constitutional crisis of the late 60's/early 70's is an example of that.
And frankly its absurd to call Victoria a Nazi or Elizabeth a Nazi. Just because people are related does not mean they share the same values. Absolute ignorance and contempt towards one of the greatest insitutions known to the Western World.
Yes it would be absurd to call Victoria a Nazi since she predates that regime or for Elizabeth becasue she emerges after its fall. No, I make referrence to most European monarchs including minor British ones courting facists for the sake of trying to bring internal stability to their respective countries in post WWI caios or in this example of the post seeking favor with those they believe could reestablish them in a position of power. The aristocracy didn't believe their time had passed.
cbmurrjr. Spoken like a true Brit. so much for " we Americans, as I am one too". Your reverence for the institution of the Monarchy gives you away as well as your attention to detail which I should say if far more than any American does or should care to know. As far as asking monarchs to resign I'm referring to anything in recent memory (post WWII) which at that point pretty much was the closing door upon your empire thus making the Queen insignificant in geo-politics leaving it a fantasy.
You reach to far sir. Look at my videos, you'll notice they are all from DC. Look at my IP, you'll notice it too is from DC. Americans, like myself, pay attention to the details. Its the details that show the truth in any situation, as any true American knows. So I say again. You reach too far, and if you still claim I'm a Brit, then I take that as a compliment. For no people have acted more loyally as an Ally to our great nation as that of Her Majesty's subjects.
So all royals are bad because this royal was a nazi? Hitler was a commoner so does that make all commoners bad? What about the royals who fought against the Axis? Condemning a group because of the actions of individuals or hatred of people because of their blood strikes me as very, well, nazi come to think of it.
I read somewhere that Hitler had family in Liverpool. They won't have been happy with last night's match with Everton where ads were shown during the game's only goal.
I'm shock at this video ,,,very shock. I do have issues with the Royal family,, but to know they have a link with Hitler is a great surprise to me....
Don't forget that Hitler described the Queen Mother as the most powerful Woman in Europe! She kept up hope for her Country with made them strong during the war and gave them pride. Are the royals seriously upsetting you? Then leave, there's plenty of republics out there!
@RepublicUK The UK is a democracy... Constitutional Monarchy under a Parliamentary Democracy, and has been since the late 1600's... The people fighting for world war 1, didn't make the public happy, the war was a catastrophe and ultimately lowered the morale of the army and changed the public's opinion of their government.
The British Royal Family is not even British. They are as German as an imported Mercedes-Benz. Hence that is why George V changed the family's German sounding surname from Saxe-Coburg Gotha to Windsor during World War One. Kaiser Wilhelm III being a first cousin to George V.
Hate to tell you, but there was no Kaiser Wilhelm III. Germans and Englishmen are culturally and racially very similar, so this is not an unusual thing. All the royal houses of Europe were interrelated anyway, so this was the norm. The Windsors are of Anglo-Saxon extraction, German or otherwise.
The only Royals that have a real claim to call themselves
" British Royalty " are Sophie Rhys-Jones,Countess of Wessex who can trace her blood line back to the ancient kings of Wales and the Queen mum ( Born into a family of Scottish nobility (her father inherited the Earldom of Strathmore and Kinghorne in 1904 ) The rest are mongrels made up of rubbish the other Royals of Europe exported to Britain.
Perharps you men Wilhem II... That doesn' t mean anything, The Hannover arrived to Britain as successors of the Stuart, only because they were protestant, i. e. to avoid the Roman Catholic branch... And by the way, in that moment Germany didn´t exist.
Chares-Edward was an evil man. He betrayed his family and his country. As the German Red Cross President, he authorized the euthanization of thousands of sick and disabled people as part of Hitler's mass extermination. When the American occupation of Germany began in 1945, General Patton held Charles-Edward as a prisoner-of-war, despite attempts by his sister, Princess Alaice to get him released. The Windsors never will escape their German roots.
@YogaNate79 All of the British Monarchs from George III on were born in England, so that fact makes them British. The German Kaiser who was first cousin to George V was Kaiser Wilhelm II. The Royal Family have German ancestry because all monarchs are required by the Constitution to marry only Protestant spouses, and these were chosen from the Protestant Princely Houses of Germany or Denmark from the time of George I.
@YogaNate79 It was the British choice not to have Catholics on the throne - they were more English (or Scottish, if you must) than the Hanovers.
Anyways, Charles Edward makes me angry for becoming a nazi... but he almost makes me cry at the end of his life. We all do bad choices in our lifetime... his choice was not the best. He could have come out of the country as everyone else (that was against Hitler). But where would he go? England? Eh... he was bashed off by his British cousins. *sigh*
George the Elector of Hanover was asked to come to Gereat Britain to rule since Queen Anne had no direct decendants or heirs. He was created George I and this is the start of why the Royal Family is not even British to this day. George III even married his wife and consort, Charlotte who was brought over from Mecklenburg-Strelitz. Subsequently, William IV was the last Crown Prince of Hanover since Victoria was a female who was ineligible to take on that title. Ernest Augustus V is current ruler.
@YogaNate79 George of Hanover was in line for the throne because he was a descendant of James I, just as Anne was. The Royal family is British. Marrying German nationals didn't make them "German", anymore than marrying Anne made James I/VI Danish, or marrying William of Orange made Mary Dutch. Royals have married members of other royal houses since time began.
The best thing the Americans ever did for the British was create a divorcee and whore for their King, Edward VIII. Wallis herself saved the British Isles from becoming another Nazi colony and a part of Hitler's Fortress Europe since the King himself was aa friend of Adolf Hitler and a Nazi sympathizer. He had to choose either his throne or his whore. In the end, he chose his lady and fled to France. And Britain was saved from fascism that would have been ultimately surrendered by their King.
NO NAZIS ARE OK! Havent you learned anything from history? All of them have blood in their hands. They are worse than the pus that infects the mucus that cruds up the fungus that feeds on the pond scum
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No nazi's are not ok as long as they r british. NAZIS ARE OK PERIOD. you sound strange. have they ever done any harm to u? or just what you have learned at school :(
@RepublicUK No. You totally misunderstand AngloSaxonVanguard's comment. Please, don't choke on your own biased position. Royal or not royal, you can only feel angry but also sad about this man's life. I wonder if you were put in the same conditions and circumstances, what would you leave in history as a legacy. Would you overthrow Hitler? That's hypocritic to say. Most probably, we'd go in with the same choices he unfortunately took.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!!!!! I am absolutely speechless! Whatever Nazi scum put this video up I hope will be educated by somebody via a crowbar!
mak34237 3 months ago
The argument made in the description of this show is really half assed. The argument seems to be "oh well there was a man in the royal family that was a Nazi, therefor you should do away with the royal family. " Not very fair or a sound argument.
PussycatGoGo 7 months ago
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Many British royals were pro-Hitler and pro-German in the 1930ies.
For the simple reason that they knew Germany was the only strong fortress against the Communist threat. The Royals logically feared the communists more than anyone else, because the Communists murdered the whole Russian Royal family in 1917.
Also, the Governor of the Bank of England, Sir Montague Norman. was a Hitler-Supporter and Nazi sympathizer.
LovelyElbe11 7 months ago
Well, If you are all already enough of this German Royals, why not try the once Anglo-Norman Royals, the Plantagenets? The Brits got the Duke of Beaufort or the Earl of Loudon, Michael Abney-Hastings (Plantagenet). The Plantagenets got around 331 (1154-1485) years in the throne. The Tudors got around 118 years. The Stewarts, around 111 years. Well, the Hannovers (Windsors) are already 297 years in the throne (1714-Present). Well, this documentary will amount to nothing but a wishful thinking.
gakusei1028 8 months ago
These bastards, Victoria, the cousines the Tsar of Russia, the kaiser of Germany and king George the fifth is responsible for throwing out 100 million workers to just die in the dirt. It all started after the first revolution attempt in Russia 1905. The massmurder was their answer to socialism. As usual. Humanity meets the murderers, and illwilling liars. Stalin was no socialist, as little as Adolf Hitler was. It is all british propaganda. Both of them where funded by british banks.
perkvistA 9 months ago
rewrote their own history, hm how special. what is royalty the most barbaric tribe?
mountain19 9 months ago
If you are trying to discredit monarchy by trying to associate it somehow with Nazi Germany your efforts are not successful. In Mein Kampf, Hitler constantly attacks the Hapsburg dynasty. He also refers to monarchists as "decadent beings" on pg 136 of Mein Kampf. Not to mention he made monarchist political movements illegal and broke up Monarchist rallies. Such as the one in honor of the Kaiser's 70th birthday.
ImperialRussianGuard 9 months ago
@ImperialRussianGuard
Look at Edward VIII’s actions, not at is words.
I believe his stratagems to delay Hitler succeeded and saved England and the World from Nazi Domination. And, even after the War, he continued the artifice to help entrap escaped Nazis.
Such clandestine maneuvers, obviously required he play a Roll as Nazi Sympathizer, for which he was ruthlessly criticized.
I believe Edward was sustained in his will to duty, by honor and remembrance of Edward Augustus, Duke of Kent.
bcpii 8 months ago
@bcpii You seem to have misunderstood me. I was defending the Duke of Windsor not blaming him. I very much agree with you.
ImperialRussianGuard 8 months ago
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@bcpii the British Empire never fought the Nazi domination, you fool. She fought the whole German nation,
because Germany was - and still is - the dominating power on the continent and therefore Germany was Britain's biggest competitor.
This is due to Germany's natural position in the centre of Europe and to German mentality of hard work. I recommend you listen to your own Prime Minister Churchill' who said: "We do not fight the Hitler-regime but the strongest power on the continent".
LovelyElbe11 7 months ago
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In '36- the Gov. appeased Hitler & self-disarmed. Churchill said Hitler would attack, and was called a War Monger. Hopeless situation for a disarmed England! Did E. abdicate, fake his roll and position himself to mitigate harsh subjugation of England in future? In ‘40, did his words & dangerous wandering from Paris to Provence to Portugal, offer himself as “bait”, hoping to delay Hitler’s invasion past summer & radar setup? (Hitler did delay.) --Did Edward’s desperate acts save Briton?
bcpii 9 months ago
The true king of England is "Aussie Mike". He is the Plantagenet heir.
Miauriceful 9 months ago
Prince William & Kate Middleton are getting married on the same day that Adolph Hitler & Eva Braun are said to have been married. I wonder if that has anything to do with "tradition" or if it's just coincidence.
I'm still looking for the definitive proof that Hitler & Braun commiting suicide the day after they were said to have been married. Will Prince William & Kate Middleton, in keeping with "tradition", commit suicide on April 30th, 2011?
jelinto 1 year ago
@jelinto You gotta hook me up with your crack dealer. You're smoking the good stuff.
kimokaker 11 months ago
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Oxford University Has Published A Book "THE MAKERS OF THE UNIVERSE", In Which They Have Enlisted 100 People Who Gave Remarkable Contribution To The World Over The Period Of 10,000 Years, Which Is Admired By The Entire UNIVERSE. In this List 1st Name Is "LORD GAUTAM BUDDHA" & 4th Is "Dr. BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR" For Their Principle Of EQUANIMITY Which Is The Universal Solution For todays Burning World....
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bipinnagarale 1 year ago
It is so upset to see family members want to murder each other, actually it is same fact in Asian as Chinese and Japanese also relatives. :( Why human being doing this?? Bother about born any kids. ?? I hate all wars and murders. Wish we will not see when we alive. :)
sea2007w1 1 year ago
@sea2007w1 jack the ripper they say was many ppl. looking for a child born from royal blood to a commoner.
mountain19 9 months ago
I believe Hilter probably shielded alot of the real horrors of the third reich from this man, and even if he did know, what would you have expected him to do. Britain crapped on him and germany crapped on him, and he did what anyone of us would do, continued to be a trooper(red cross) for the sake of his family and loved one's. He never left his post and he didn't desert germany even though the person running the war was an insane meglomaniac. That's why Hitler loved him because he loved germany
belzeebub1 1 year ago
I think he may have been judged too harshly because unlike the queen today he had no choice but to adopt germany as his country at a young age, as a royal obligation that was out of his control. He served his country in WW1 as any loyal patriot would do for their country and what did he get in return for his sense of duty and loyalty - stripped of his titles by both Britain and germany. So, when Hitler came along what did you expect him to do, run back to britain? He never deserted his country
belzeebub1 1 year ago
Why couldn't I have been born royalty?! :-(
jposh707 1 year ago
I would have DEF supported Hitler, he did everything that needed to be done
TheArmo1 1 year ago
Leave the Monarchy alone! If you don't like it move to a country that doesn't have a monarchy! If you're not happy with that, bugger off!
Matt32391 1 year ago
You'd think with all that good food and sanitation,
They'd be a better looking bunch.
Yeesh...
blackphonetic1 1 year ago
Indeed did Carl Eduard support the Nazi Party and Hitler. But he was inveigled like many other people. He was only a follower. After the "Night of the Long Knives" in 1934 he was on the list of the people to be arrested because he saved the lifes of a jewish family.
mathis1980 1 year ago
will someone please tell me why on earth does anyone put up with the monarchy? I am wondering why or what purpose are they? why give them a salary? why allow a nation to identify with them? If you know, please let me know...
VictoriaGreyh 1 year ago
The UK will never become a republic because us monarchists will treat anyone who abolishes the monarchy as traitors.
theredraven 2 years ago
dont forget the english government and the crown own all the channels they manipulate the people through media thats why english television is full of so much bullshit, it looks like a channel 4 mistake but i assure you the crown is behind it all, they have psychological advisers pulling all the strings, these cunts want to rule the world they cant share they think they are a super geneome. dirty cheating murderous scum what goes around will come around
jamjarone 2 years ago
London royals = World freemasonry London bankers = world zionism. without them, there would not have been world war I, Russian revolution, Soviet communism, nazi-Germany, world war II, and probably no world war III. World Freemasonry and World Judaism are two most dangerous powers to humanity. Catholic Church is only dangerous in so far it is infected by world Freemasonry. Third dangerous party is Islam, used by freemasonry to control the Arab countries.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
Really?
I think I might become Jewish. They actually seem to be succesful at what they do according the stuff you're saying.
Big money here I come!
theredraven 2 years ago
@theredraven I think you cannot be a jew, for you are not from the tribe of shem.
You will be jew-ish.
If you are KAZAR, you might have a chance.
blackphonetic1 1 year ago
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@theredraven I think you cannot be a jew, for you are not from the tribe of shem.
You will be jew-ish.
If you are KAZAR, you might have a chance.;-)
blackphonetic1 1 year ago
Interesting that an heir to the English throne fought for the Kaiser in WW1, despite his wish not to face English troops. Fascinating, but a harbinger of the future problems, concerning conflicting loyalties for Charles Edward.
slessorpr 2 years ago
Sorry I was mixing him up with Edward VII.
slessorpr 2 years ago
quite right, but its quite tragic for him.
rocproc1010101 2 years ago
That's a problem when you've got so many relatives all over Europe.
theredraven 2 years ago
This upload has been poorley researched and it's the usul fancifull rubbish from chanel four.
Sirknight1797 2 years ago
I have always said we have more in common with the geramans than any other europenan countrys
this video proves the point
nylonTS 2 years ago
To 2vonranke. My apologies for confusing your name with the substance of your commentary.
jakob2828 2 years ago
To 2vonwanke. I wonder if the Vietnamese are as proud of winning their war as you are of winning yours
jakob2828 2 years ago
To 2vonwanke. It is a pity that Americans do not pay more attention to detail for if they did then perhaps the strategists in the White House and the Pentagon would have given just a little more thought to securing the peace in Iraq and not just winning the war - an indictment of US foreign policy over the last 50 years me thinks
jakob2828 2 years ago
..and how is the actions of one man, the entire royal family's fault?
huwwilson650 2 years ago
What happened is that everyone including the Royals of Germany after loosing the World War l , after the German revolution the fall of the Kaiser ,Weimar, the financial mess almost every German had hopes that Hitler and the Nazi Party would restore order.How wrong they all were.
lababoc 2 years ago
where can I find more about royals of every European Monarchies involved with the Nazis? anyone knows?Thanks
lababoc 2 years ago
Most were in the 1930s. A little context is needed here. The Nazi regime was considered the legitimate head of Germany then, although never had a majority in the Reichstag prior to 1933. After WWI many monarchies had fallen or countries were in chaos. So with this situation they would court any in power that could restore them or keep them legitimate as had been done by Victor Emmanuel III and Mussolini. Fascism was on the rise in through out Europe so this wasn't unusual.
2vonranke 2 years ago
That does not qualify. This isn't an issue of who is legitimate and who is not in the world, its an issue of the particular role played by the British Head of State. What that role symbolizes, etc. I'm not commenting on the video. I'm commenting onr your absurdly ignorant and self limiting view on what is one of the oldest institutions in existance today. An institution that your fellow Americans revere and respect.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
And this particular post is to lababoc to to you cbmurryjr.
2vonranke 2 years ago
Sir, you just can't stand that you are ignorant to reality.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
And apparently you choose to live in Disneyland. News for you we won the revolution, the British left and decided NOT to have a king to replace theirs. Time to turn Buckingham palace into condos!
2vonranke 2 years ago
Well if you knew anything about history, you couldn't actually say that we "won" the revolution. Rather the King and Prime Minister Pitt decided that the separation was better than continuing a war when other dangers were becoming more apparent. You cannot win this arguement. For all you have is petty insults, no actual complaints against the monarchy.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
Nazi Bastard!
InTheNameOfThePastor 2 years ago
This is a little misleading. In 1899 when the reigning Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha died he was Queen Victoria's son! Prince Alfred the Duke of Edinburgh was Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's 2nd son. In 1892 Prince Albert's brother, Duke Ernst II of Coburg, died childless so the throne when to the nearest heir, Prince Alfred. This video makes it sound like Victoria was trying to control the succession when the truth is the succession was already governed by German law.
Wmhohenzollern 2 years ago
Good point! Yes the female members of aristocracy really like those Coburg studs as they liked to refer to them.
2vonranke 2 years ago
the new world order exists....! illuminati...!
rohitks123 2 years ago
i object to you maing fun of this 'tradition' and making it sound like a bad thing!! yes this isnt a great moment in british monarchichal history but its full of nasty men who got away with stuff...hello!!! looks at henry VIII?! it doesnt detract from the great tradtions that poeple know and love.....and might i add that half the ppl who come to visit this tradition are americans....who cant get enough of it!!! so we love it and its here to stay :)
BriefEncounter1987 2 years ago 4
Well I finid this stuff interesting...and I'm American...
But I'm just glad that I don't have to put up with the royal stuff on an regular and intimate basis...LOL!
suryavajra 2 years ago
well its good to knw some americans appreciate it :D lol yeh it does get a bit silly all the "drama" that goes on....but more often than not its the papers making it sound bigger thsn it actually is!!!!
BriefEncounter1987 2 years ago
Well I gotta clarify...I appreciate it as much as anybody would appreciate a soap opera like "As the World Turns" and "Dynasty...LOL!!!
But the presense of royalty who synpathized with the Nazies seems to show a darker more sinister side....
suryavajra 2 years ago 2
hahaha well who doesnt love a good old episode of dynasty now and again?? :D xx
BriefEncounter1987 2 years ago
you don't have to as your presidents fill the role to a t.
tugadmundo 2 years ago
what are you referring to tugadmundo??
suryavajra 2 years ago
I think that american presidents are seen as much the same way as royals,they receive the same reverence ,that goes behond curiosity for the simple rich and famous.they detain in their hands the power of the most powerful nation on earth,wich accounts for much of the aura of misticism tha seems to suround them.they inspire awe even among their own people,and that is most remarkcable.they are adressed as mr. president even when no longer ocupy ing the post,they creat dynasties,one loves or hate
tugadmundo 2 years ago
Well as an American I can tell you we don't look upon the PERSON as President as the British do a Royal. We respect the OFFICE of President not the person. Yes there a few of those like to romanticize it. We look at your monarchy with puzzlement and maybe an embodiment of your history. Much as we would if the French or Germans had theirs or we knew as much about the Scandinavian monarchs but believe me we don't look upon the President with mysticism. We impeached two and one resigned.
2vonranke 2 years ago
"we don't look upon the President with mysticism"
Bollocks, just watch a few videos of Obama supporters and say that.
bettertobealive 2 years ago
We don't! I said earlier "Yes there a few of those like to romanticize it. We look at your monarchy with puzzlement and maybe an embodiment of your history." Our office of president is in no way like the position of your monarchy. I think its been a while since you and your country men have overthrown a king or queen or asked for one's resignation and again as far as presidents go we've impeached two and one resigned So no we don't!
2vonranke 2 years ago
Oh for the love of god man, first and foremost anyone with a basic understanding of modern world history knows that Edward VIII was forced to abdicated for attempting to marry Walice Simpson. That was in the 1930's. Secondly, we Americans, as I am one too, do not look upon the monarchy with "puzzlement". We revere the monarch just as much as the British people do. Evidence of which can be seen by the Queen's most recent visit to America. Don't paint the wrong picture about your countryman.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
Showing a welcome to a ceremonial head of state is in no way equal to accepting it as a legitimate way to govern. Most Americans think of the monarchy in the way Disney portrays it, a fantasy, and that in a modern age that a society would prop this up is puzzlement. We don't have that historical trajectory. We are curious about it but we truly do not understand it. 2nd I said nothing about Edward/Simpson and for those Americans in the 1930s that cared it was a romance story to them. Period!
2vonranke 2 years ago
First off, you stated that the British had not asked their monarch to resign, which in regards to Edward VIII, they did.
Secondly, no Head of State, other than the Pope recieves the sort of grandeur given to the Queen. We, as we have for the entirety of our existance understand that the Monarch is the source of legitimate governance of the United Kingdom. The constitutional crisis of the late 60's/early 70's is an example of that.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
And frankly its absurd to call Victoria a Nazi or Elizabeth a Nazi. Just because people are related does not mean they share the same values. Absolute ignorance and contempt towards one of the greatest insitutions known to the Western World.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
Yes it would be absurd to call Victoria a Nazi since she predates that regime or for Elizabeth becasue she emerges after its fall. No, I make referrence to most European monarchs including minor British ones courting facists for the sake of trying to bring internal stability to their respective countries in post WWI caios or in this example of the post seeking favor with those they believe could reestablish them in a position of power. The aristocracy didn't believe their time had passed.
2vonranke 2 years ago
cbmurrjr. Spoken like a true Brit. so much for " we Americans, as I am one too". Your reverence for the institution of the Monarchy gives you away as well as your attention to detail which I should say if far more than any American does or should care to know. As far as asking monarchs to resign I'm referring to anything in recent memory (post WWII) which at that point pretty much was the closing door upon your empire thus making the Queen insignificant in geo-politics leaving it a fantasy.
2vonranke 2 years ago
You reach to far sir. Look at my videos, you'll notice they are all from DC. Look at my IP, you'll notice it too is from DC. Americans, like myself, pay attention to the details. Its the details that show the truth in any situation, as any true American knows. So I say again. You reach too far, and if you still claim I'm a Brit, then I take that as a compliment. For no people have acted more loyally as an Ally to our great nation as that of Her Majesty's subjects.
cbmurryjr 2 years ago
1st of all i would like to say that Americans do not pay attention to detail - check your history XD
PrunyOldToe 2 years ago
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2vonranke 2 years ago
So all royals are bad because this royal was a nazi? Hitler was a commoner so does that make all commoners bad? What about the royals who fought against the Axis? Condemning a group because of the actions of individuals or hatred of people because of their blood strikes me as very, well, nazi come to think of it.
belgie81 2 years ago 14
Well said! I agree with every word you've written.
rightmoment 2 years ago
@belgie81 who said hitler is bad in the first place, people hate him yet dont understand him, irony itself is ironic
fadyb56 1 year ago
I read somewhere that Hitler had family in Liverpool. They won't have been happy with last night's match with Everton where ads were shown during the game's only goal.
miltytube 3 years ago
Charles Edward was not cousin of Tsar Nicholas rather Tsarina Alexandra.
fep70 3 years ago
As Denis Diderot once said, "Man will never be free until the last King is strangled with the entrails of the last priest".
enddogmanow 3 years ago
evil
thedecider1984 3 years ago
I'm shock at this video ,,,very shock. I do have issues with the Royal family,, but to know they have a link with Hitler is a great surprise to me....
mronelove 3 years ago
Don't forget that Hitler described the Queen Mother as the most powerful Woman in Europe! She kept up hope for her Country with made them strong during the war and gave them pride. Are the royals seriously upsetting you? Then leave, there's plenty of republics out there!
randomdudeRULES 3 years ago
Leave the country because I have a different opinion? That sounds like a bit of a Nazi ideal, a nation full of people who all believe the same thing.
Don't worry though, when democracy comes we wont be telling you to leave.
PS, It was the people actually fighting the war that kept the country strong, not a random woman hiding in a palace.
RepublicUK 3 years ago
damn right.
delfinjeriba 2 years ago
@RepublicUK Agreed, the Queen mother was a tit and everyone here knows that.
TheArmo1 1 year ago
@RepublicUK The UK is a democracy... Constitutional Monarchy under a Parliamentary Democracy, and has been since the late 1600's... The people fighting for world war 1, didn't make the public happy, the war was a catastrophe and ultimately lowered the morale of the army and changed the public's opinion of their government.
donmont10 3 months ago
i always hated the royal bastards
arus82 3 years ago
init
naysebtc 3 years ago
Tsar Nicholas II was Carl Edward's first cousin-IN-LAW, not his first cousin, frig.
holidaysinthemoon 3 years ago
The British Royal Family is not even British. They are as German as an imported Mercedes-Benz. Hence that is why George V changed the family's German sounding surname from Saxe-Coburg Gotha to Windsor during World War One. Kaiser Wilhelm III being a first cousin to George V.
YogaNate79 3 years ago 14
Hate to tell you, but there was no Kaiser Wilhelm III. Germans and Englishmen are culturally and racially very similar, so this is not an unusual thing. All the royal houses of Europe were interrelated anyway, so this was the norm. The Windsors are of Anglo-Saxon extraction, German or otherwise.
radio187 3 years ago
Still Krauts though !
The only Royals that have a real claim to call themselves
" British Royalty " are Sophie Rhys-Jones,Countess of Wessex who can trace her blood line back to the ancient kings of Wales and the Queen mum ( Born into a family of Scottish nobility (her father inherited the Earldom of Strathmore and Kinghorne in 1904 ) The rest are mongrels made up of rubbish the other Royals of Europe exported to Britain.
mush1955 3 years ago 3
Don't you mean Wilhelm II?
balthasarEF 3 years ago
Perharps you men Wilhem II... That doesn' t mean anything, The Hannover arrived to Britain as successors of the Stuart, only because they were protestant, i. e. to avoid the Roman Catholic branch... And by the way, in that moment Germany didn´t exist.
peret33 3 years ago
Yes I meant to say Wilhelm II, it was a typo.
Chares-Edward was an evil man. He betrayed his family and his country. As the German Red Cross President, he authorized the euthanization of thousands of sick and disabled people as part of Hitler's mass extermination. When the American occupation of Germany began in 1945, General Patton held Charles-Edward as a prisoner-of-war, despite attempts by his sister, Princess Alaice to get him released. The Windsors never will escape their German roots.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
You are quite right about that.
rocproc1010101 2 years ago
And somebody fresh of the boat becomes a full fledged Brit in a few years?
apekkapoika 3 years ago
yup. we dont like nazis.
naysebtc 3 years ago
@YogaNate79 All of the British Monarchs from George III on were born in England, so that fact makes them British. The German Kaiser who was first cousin to George V was Kaiser Wilhelm II. The Royal Family have German ancestry because all monarchs are required by the Constitution to marry only Protestant spouses, and these were chosen from the Protestant Princely Houses of Germany or Denmark from the time of George I.
piscescq 8 months ago
@YogaNate79 It was the British choice not to have Catholics on the throne - they were more English (or Scottish, if you must) than the Hanovers.
Anyways, Charles Edward makes me angry for becoming a nazi... but he almost makes me cry at the end of his life. We all do bad choices in our lifetime... his choice was not the best. He could have come out of the country as everyone else (that was against Hitler). But where would he go? England? Eh... he was bashed off by his British cousins. *sigh*
AvatarMarxon90 4 months ago
George the Elector of Hanover was asked to come to Gereat Britain to rule since Queen Anne had no direct decendants or heirs. He was created George I and this is the start of why the Royal Family is not even British to this day. George III even married his wife and consort, Charlotte who was brought over from Mecklenburg-Strelitz. Subsequently, William IV was the last Crown Prince of Hanover since Victoria was a female who was ineligible to take on that title. Ernest Augustus V is current ruler.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
@YogaNate79 George of Hanover was in line for the throne because he was a descendant of James I, just as Anne was. The Royal family is British. Marrying German nationals didn't make them "German", anymore than marrying Anne made James I/VI Danish, or marrying William of Orange made Mary Dutch. Royals have married members of other royal houses since time began.
RevWarRev 1 year ago
The best thing the Americans ever did for the British was create a divorcee and whore for their King, Edward VIII. Wallis herself saved the British Isles from becoming another Nazi colony and a part of Hitler's Fortress Europe since the King himself was aa friend of Adolf Hitler and a Nazi sympathizer. He had to choose either his throne or his whore. In the end, he chose his lady and fled to France. And Britain was saved from fascism that would have been ultimately surrendered by their King.
YogaNate79 3 years ago
Hum... british royalty at it's very best
ultraplus1 3 years ago 4
Edward, the queen, abdicated because Wallis was the closest thing to a real man he could ever find
ultraplus1 3 years ago
kill all royals vive la france
revengeofcleveland 3 years ago
NO NAZIS ARE OK! Havent you learned anything from history? All of them have blood in their hands. They are worse than the pus that infects the mucus that cruds up the fungus that feeds on the pond scum
DianaFrancesca716 4 years ago
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No nazi's are not ok as long as they r british. NAZIS ARE OK PERIOD. you sound strange. have they ever done any harm to u? or just what you have learned at school :(
LeandroCenturion 4 years ago
Another Nazi supporting monarchist, I can't say I'm surprised.
RepublicUK 4 years ago
After watching this i have respect for this man who was just on the rong side.
AngloSaxonVanguard 4 years ago
So Nazi's are ok as long as they are also British? or Royalty? Get a grip.
RepublicUK 4 years ago 2
@RepublicUK No. You totally misunderstand AngloSaxonVanguard's comment. Please, don't choke on your own biased position. Royal or not royal, you can only feel angry but also sad about this man's life. I wonder if you were put in the same conditions and circumstances, what would you leave in history as a legacy. Would you overthrow Hitler? That's hypocritic to say. Most probably, we'd go in with the same choices he unfortunately took.
AvatarMarxon90 1 year ago