Yes We Canberra! | The Coalition's Broadband Policy | Wednesdays, 9.45pm ABC1

[bigdude101ohyeah]

The NBN is just cleaning up after the mess that the Keating and Howard governments made with Telecom/Telstra.

[mubd1234]

I love the rotary phone in the background.

[tothemax01]

Why is it always the governments role to supply utilities? Pretty easy for the Left, isn't it? Simply say "The government will improve industry X", and then when people say "It will cost more than private industry doing it, construction will be slow, and it will divert resources from elsewhere", you simply reply "AH HA! You want industry X to be crap! You are a dinosaur!".

What a crock of shit.

[bigdude101ohyeah]

@tothemax01 Maybe if the private sector would get up and supply the utilities. Too bad that most necessary utilities don't run at a profit.

If power companies worked like post-privatised Telstra when electricity was getting wired up, people in regional areas, and in newer metropolitan developments would just be given a poor quality generator, and would be charged more than someone on the grid.

[tothemax01]

@bigdude101ohyeah The private sector isn't supplying the utilities for a reason. The government does not make the impractical happen by magic - it just diverts money from everything else. Net loss. And public utilities don't run at a profit because (and Ive worked there), they prefer office politics to actually getting stuff done. They are wasteful.

And yes, the way to succeed in the private market is to provide bad quality services at a high price. Logic fail.

[AcidScent]

faster than dial up eh? 

[bigswano]

good ol netscape navigator

[Eddy9412]

shut the fuck up labour cunts

[fr0nage]

@Eddy9412 Labor*

l2spell before you talk politics lawl

[bigdude101ohyeah]

@Eddy9412 I might be a cunt, but I'm not a fucking cunt.

[xWeMakeVidsx]

Hell YEEEAAHH they've started the NBN in Canberra. Finally get off this 350kb/s download speed.

[AgentTasmania]

It's strange how the "Liberal" party is conservative, and their labour opponants are the actualy Liberal ones.

[hidden105]

@AgentTasmania actually at the moment both parties are conservative

[2205BB]

LOL @ all the comments from people who obviously stand in centrelink lines and tick the box on forms and applications that give them a "legs up" and cheap housing loans ( Equality my butt) I wish it was still the 1900's and we could prevent all the harm the labour govt has done with foresight.

[TheWiradjuriwoman]

Not to forget the privitisation of the countries public properties...Ambulance services, fire departments, telephones, Electricity supplies, gas supplies, roadworks etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

Tony Abbott and Liberals never can learn their mathematics or communication skills or Science, tomorrow for them will never come again.... a Racist Party that needs 1 Young Aboriginal Poloitician to bring in the votes.."I Dont Think So"

[martbd]

@TheWiradjuriwoman The federal coalition came straight from 1900 @ their policies did.

[llrotllort]

@TheWiradjuriwoman

shut up abo. go steal a generator.

[TheWiradjuriwoman]

Not to forget the privitisation of the countries public properties...Ambulance services, fire departments, telephones, Electricity supplies, gas supplies, roadworks etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

[AgentTasmania]

how did we ever get by before DSL and broadband?

[jezeats]

So what are they offering? ISDN?

[funneydude]

@jezeats Worse, pure Wireless, not even HSDPA, but rather 3G, you know, the one modeled for 3.6Mbps peak?

[doctorgriffith]

funny, and true.

[Aqene1000]

Comedians are the BEST political commentators

[halflifeproductionz]

haha chasers FTW!!

[Buckeh]

Lawl, if Tony Abbott was around a hundred years ago he probably would've said that wiring up houses with electricity was a bad idea.

Shame so many people are stupid enough to vote for a party lead by someone like that :(

[martbd]

@Buckeh The federal Coalition must be living in a time warp.

[Doctor699]

@Buckeh I would rather vote democratically for Abbott, then keep a bitch who was never elected as Prime Minister in the first place. They are all just puppets!

[bigdude101ohyeah]

@Doctor699 If Abbott was chosen by the independents, would you think the same way?

I thought not.

[tri400]

Labor's NBN will be great for those people that dont even have a computer!

[DMAN123223]

@tri400 So what are you on exactly?

[kenl68]

The fact that I can watch this clip without it buffering means that this is more of a dig at the ALPs NBN policy.

The bigger argument about whether Australia should seriously cut carbon emmissions by implementing nuclear power is not even on the agenda. And yes, the longer we wait the more that will cost too. Much MUCH more. Unless you don't believe that there is climate change in which case, go NBN! Yah!!!

[hiddenpwi]

@kenl68

I doubt you'd be saying that if this video had a 1080p version.

[superaltman]

@hiddenpwi

I would, most people that live anywhere near the city can get ADSL2+ now, which generally streams 1080p fine.

I'm all for the national broadband network, however what is the point of giving everyone super fast internet when they are going to filter it to 'protect' people.

[Steve11384]

@superaltman of course the filter is a joke, but obviously when it comes to them offering more speed a filter technicaly makes sense because it would mean the speed would be used more efficiently. They arent creating a national broadband network for child porn and beastiality remember.

[superaltman]

ts a little Naive to think that all they are going to be doing is blocking 'illegal' sites. I saw the leaked blacklist, and it included a large volume of regular pornography sites, as well as torrent sites, image boards, and several others which were perfectly legal..

Just look at the examples from other counties, Thailand introduced a filter to 'protect' and it was shown that it also blocked hundreds of sites containing politicital messages, or people speaking against the royal family.

[Steve11384]

@superaltman of course i agree with you. I was just commenting in reference to the statement "what is the point of giving everyone super fast internet when they are going to filter it to 'protect' people." The plan for a national broadband network isnt intended for us to download porn faster or even the latest pg rated movies. The broadband network is aimed at education and business so filtering unrelated sources really doesnt concern what the policy is intending to create.

[mmschandler]

@Steve11384 nailed it there...and a filter and a broadband network are seperate policies, one can go without the other. A network doesn't necessarily mean the filter.

[tullochaustralia]

they edited this on tv we saw the buffering bit with numbers here we dont

[libbaz]

lol, so true.

I'm sick of dumb policies written by out of touch individuals in regards to Australia's IT industry. The one shining beacon in all the crap over the years has been the NBN and they want to scrap it? what the...?

First the coalition said it was impossible, now its ahead of schedule and actually under-budget and they want to scrap it?! its something that HAS to be implemented anyway and the more we wait the more it'll cost! idiots.

[Awkwardgesundheit]

I love this show

[psalib89]

internet aye...

[lounzac]

@yomelbourne

The Internet is an important issue? What's wrong with our economy on the international stage? The money "At This Point In Time" could be better spent elsewhere. Spend some time in a public hospital or if you have kids go and have a look at their school, be a pensioner for 12 months, even better come and live in NSW for 1 week!

[Nahasapasa]

And the alternative is China-esque filter. We're all fucked!

[lounzac]

@togdamo

Vote liberal, your not from NSW are you?

[klanies123]

haha chasers r right , dont fucking vote libs!

[lounzac]

@Monkey117

Well you seem convinced, as long as you think the Internet is more important than what this country actually needs, were on track.

[togdamo]

@lounzac Yes, this country needs infrastructure and Labor has done more in less then 3 years then The Coalition did in 11 years. Unless you think invading countries, killing innocents, moving our manufacturing overseas and destroying the environment is what this country needs. I'm an old Liberal voter, NEVER again.

[s0nicaify]

@togdamo

I AGREE I'm studying engineering & when i graduate i actually want TO LIVE IN a country that's growing & where jobs are widely available...the last 3 year with a labor government is seeing the civil engineering area FLOURISH with jobs...students have jobs 2 years into their 5 year degrees!!! LABOR ALL THE WAY!

[AussiePolitics]

@s0nicaify mate i dont know what planet you're on but ive got mates who are engineers and they're ALWAYS in demand. its a highly skilled, valued profession with only a limited number of people so of course people want to employ at any time.

[AgentTasmania]

@togdamo

I'll remember that at my first vote in 2013.

[martbd]

@togdamo Liberal Party are butch of racist suck holes

[JDeguara]

@togdamo This is why people are stupid and our country is going to hell. Labour spend ALL our money and run us into debt, and what do they have to show for it? Nothing. Unless you can come up with a small examples of how to spend $250b? The network is going to be outdated before it's finished, and there is really nothing wrong with what we currently have.

[Okhotny]

@JDeguara Nothing wrong with what we currently have? When we had dialup, America had ADSL. When we had ADSL, America had fibre with no download cap, at 1/2 our price.

The NBN is built so that the exchanges can be upgraded with new equipment as it comes out. With copper, you don't have that benefit

[bigswano]

@togdamo They are the most populist party in Australia. They will sell their souls if they think there's a vote in it. Immigration wouldn't be the big political hot potato it is, if Howard and co hadn't used asylum seekers as currency to win the election.

[yomelbourne]

@lounzac Internet is one of the important issues as it soon will become the backbone of the economy..if austraia has to compete with other countries, we have got to have an awesome internet and so NBN is a must and labor all the way...this broadband we have now isnt gonna last long at current development rate of technology..with HD more and more available and other high data applications, we need optic fibre..we gonna need it in 5 years anyway so why not start now..LABOR

[AussiePolitics]

@yomelbourne first of all why does every single home need to have thousands of dollars spent on it so it can have Internet slightly quicker? the people in the cities who this is going to benefit already have bloody fast internet so why not throw more money at them?

then again maybe labor is going to need the extra speed for all the bogans they're bribing so they dont get annoyed when the internet censorship they're introducing slows things down.

[lounzac]

Labor's NBN will be out dated by 2020, wireless will be much faster than it is now. It's just another plug to the young generation to get votes, although they will most likely win with preferences anyway. They have begun the NBN roll out in Tasmania and no one is taking it up, to expensive. The 43 billion needs to be spent on schools, hospitals, infrastructure. Do your self a favor, don't vote labor this Saturday.

[Mokey117]

@lounzac

Wireless will never be faster than fibre. For that to be possible you'd have to completely defy the laws of physics. Fibre optic cable communicates data at the speed of light, the only speed restriction is the bitrate. Wireless uses the electromagnetic spectrum, and it simply can't move data that fast. There may be a wireless technology that is faster in 30 years (perhaps longer), but it will not be using the electromagnetic spectrum.

[togdamo]

@lounzac You and the Coalition need to do some research before you comment. Even if wireless becomes 'much' faster then it is now it wont come close to current Optical Fiber speeds, and will still haven't found the transmission limits of Optical Fiber. 200 channels, each carrying 100 Gb/s over one Optical fiber cable, I'd love to see wireless do that.

Wireless/3G is still measured in Mb/s

4G will be 1Gb/s, and how are you going to connect all those thousands of towers, you will need a NBN.

[Mokey117]

@lounzac

As far as technologies go, fibre is as future-proofed as you can get, because the cables will still be good in 50 years. You don't have to change the cables, just the nodes that send and receive data. The cables right now can support up to 10gbits. That's already an enormous speed, but it's very possible they'll be able to be pushed far higher.

[Mokey117]

@lounzac

People are taking the NBN up in Tasmania, because if you look at the prices Internode and iiNet are offering, it's incredibly cheap. I work in the industry, and when I saw on the NBN I could get 60gb at 100mbits for $70 my jaw dropped. That's at the highest speed being offered. Right now I pay that much for 4mbits and 30gb of data thanks to Telstra being the only ISP to offer ADSL2+ in this area

[Mokey117]

@lounzac

On top of that, the NBN is running on-time and under budget. The government is not spending 43 billion, they're spending 30 billion and NBNCo is sourcing the rest.

The solution from the Coalition was outdated two years ago. It's going to take them until 2016 to get it in place. On top of that, there are big problems with using WiMAX in metro areas, because the speed and latency will be horrendous with vast amounts of users.

[Mokey117]

@lounzac

The Liberals are relying on unproven technology and they will blow their budget. Labor is relying on proven, future-proofed technology that's being deployed by Mike Quigley, the former head of Alcatel and one of the most experienced directors in this field. So far he and NBNCo have been nothing short of exceptional and damn impressive.

The NBN is the most forward thinking and well organised project ever conceived by an Australian government. I had my doubts but Labor have nailed it.

[wattlesong]

But the Libs won't think this is funny, they'll think fuck yeah, this is the future we'll leave the next generation, when we've dug up all the minerals, sold all our assets, polluted the air we breathe and the water we drink.

My generation was greedy, selfish and ignorant, may you survive the terrible mistakes my generation has wrought.

ps: have a good time, sex is free, love who you like.

To the young ones, I say SORRY.

[SlimeTron5000]

@wattlesong Sex is not free in the monetary system, in most cases you need credit to have sex. Bordellos do not work for nothing.

[bigdude101ohyeah]

I'm liking the old-school ABC logo too!!

[defcon420]

haha classic, shame its true!

[NightHawk1337]

lol

 netscape and altavista

[lizlingchen]

Andrew looks like Rai Thistlethwayte ... which is kinda disturbing

[SmileFromBehind]

The Libs are gonna look at theis and say, "great idea, can we use this? "

A trip back in time, love the Netscape, and is it Win 98... or earlier?

[TheAmura]

LMAO! Easily the best parody of this campaign.

[5hutupl1nda]

Hilarious

[killerspudly]

Awesome - the internet is a series of tubes

[Bleeter]

Was thinking 'Geez, ain't seen that browser in a while'. Then the website loaded and was lulz+++