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  • That doesn't look like Mike Ross.

  • stream monsters sent me here.

  • but seriously, his talk was mad true in Vanilla SF4 at least.

  • Pick a top tier and still lose...

  • JUS PICK A TOP TIER DansGame

  • DansGame needs to pick a top tier.

  • PICK A TOP TIER LOL AE EVERYONE PICKS YUN SANFORD IS GOD!

  • I don't like competitive video games.

  • Wanna have fun? change fuckin game, if tiers exist, then the game is unbalanced. end of story

  • @8lollo9 "If tiers exist, then the game is unbalanced."

    Then every fighting game is unbalanced then.

  • @xIchipoo maybe yes

  • @xIchipoo Thank you.

  • sanford is a huge faggot

  • He just reinforced everything I ever said about top tier players. They don't wanna work for it.

  • @AtomicToyRobot If they didn't work for it, they wouldn't be top tier players.

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  • lol @ the niggas in the background smoking a jay and not understanding what they're talking about

  • This is why I don't play MVC2. There are only 5 viable characters out of 50.

    Bullshit.

  • @JacopeX Try 14.

  • Thats good shit san

  • sore fucking loser. win some tourneys then talk bitch

  • I can't fuck with SF4 series no more. You can almost see the situations coming. You buff the characters who need it then when they start wrecking shit you nerf them cause Niggas stay salty FOH!!!

  • @SDSOverfiend Try 3SOE or SFxT coming out soon!

  • @Toddry I fucks with Virtua Fighter 5 Hardbody and a lil Bit of Tekken 6. Im fucking with the 3rd Strike online but that Tekken X SF shit ima catch that on discount cause my daughter plays both so now she can rock out with Tekken and SF. I don't get into capcom games much anymore cause of the bullshit factor to them. Im waiting for Final showdown and Tekken tag this summer then im good lol!! still Got my ssf4 skills on deck to serve a Nigga but i just chill and watch Niggas get salty lol

  • Pick a top NIGGA

  • Long island Joe and Javits is Trash... They have no right to say anything seriously.

  • @SDSOverfiend I wouldn't go that far. LI went to SBO. Granted, his team lost. But still, he got there.

  • @Toddry what year did he go? had to be during SF4 when Sagat was a problem.. Li Joe is cool though overall cause he not a crybaby trashtalker. but Javits is a bitch ass Nigga... I've witnessed this first hand he's a salty ass Nigga.

  • @SDSOverfiend LI Joe went to the most recent SBO for AE. Hold that shit in your chest. Javits is a great player, stay free scrub.

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  • @MetalHarbor Javits is a great player? Shut the fuck up. I would give him is props with Rog but he's a Salty ass Nigga just like Sanford. Ill give Joe his propers... Stay Sweet Lil nigga.

  • i hate when nerds try to sound "hood"

  • @iammichael They're not trying it's just a mix of nerd and east coast

  • @Marceles45 thanks

  • "umma keep it sooooo real rite now!"

  • @neon6 what in the world does that have to do with what I was talking about?

  • @DeviousBetrayer what are u talkin about? You sound ignorant

  • @BlackOdin23 noel brown punched smooth viper in the face because he was touching his stuff and yelling during his matches, it's questionable whether sanford would've done the same thing in his place

  • lol SF

  • didn know sanford's voice was so high #soprano

  • Sanford Kelly is ass. He is ass in Marvel, he is ass in AE. He is just mad cuz he has no more games to play. Your time is up, nigga. Your through. Your finished. Finite. Your done, nigga. DONE. GONE! Everybody watch EVO2K11 this weekend and watch this nigga get bodied...if he's even there.

    Toddry 13 minutes ago

  • @Toddry lol just watched him get bodied by noel brown, even though he talked shit about him. guess you were right...

  • @EspioChaos That's because only the frauds talk shit mad shit like he does. Noel took the high road though.

  • @Toddry *You're

  • @Toddry You Were on the fucking money Son. This Nigga times up.

  • Tiers or not , weve seen many mid/low tier players win tours.

    Iyo=dhalsim . Gamerbee=adon , Weve even seen Zangief with pad win over Wong and many more examples..

    But lets be honest. Some characters are way more effective than others. Did wong stick to ChunLi? No... Did Daigo stick to Ken? Did momochi stick to akuma on SSF4 ? No...Did Mago stick to Sagat on SSF4?

    Bottom line... When there are money involved of course people will go for what is most effective for them. Is not only skill.period

  • @Azatis Mago went to Fei Long who was worse than Sagat in SSFIV...go figure

  • @Yggbertz

    He ended up with one of the strongest characters ... AGAIN.

    Go figure.

  • @Azatis This is the most truthful statement in the history of Youtube comments.

  • @Azatis you realize this is in vanilla where sagat was s tier right? anythign involving ssf4 really has nothing to do with this. and end of the day in vanilla a crappy sagat could beat a high tie rplayer using a sub par character.

  • @GoGoGadgetLAG untrue.

  • @Theb0x very true

  • @Azatis while your sentiment is true, your supporting facts are a garbled mess.

  • @Theb0x

    Support yours then m8 because you didnt even try it :)

  • Tiers exist people but when a player assumes that picking the top tier and does not put in the dedication/practice to win-failure follows. I respect Sanford's skill but he is a whiner/hypocrite. There is a vid of him calling out Marn for winning bc he uses Rufus....when he himself used the most overpowered character at the time, Sagat. I don't think Sanford has the inert ability to adapt and keep winning consistantly. Oh yeah, FUCK TRIFORCE AND HIS PATHETIC EMP.

  • Who even plays IV? nobodys, its all about the 2d games BUBBA

  • I can't believe these people exist. Who plays video games competitively like some sort of sport with strangers? Nerds with no friends or hobbies, that's who.

  • @xxVampirePenguinxx

    if you say so xXxstupidusername101xXx420twil­ightpenguin

  • @vahncase1

    Hahahahaha Twilight Penguin. Very fat!!!

  • @xxVampirePenguinxx

    And get precious nothing in return. Their ego has no real fiscal value. And don't get too sour of those pro pro pros too boy haha.

  • These words never sounded so true until Sunday. Wolverine/xxx/Phoenix for EVO 2011!

  • This video proves that Americans are lazy when it comes to fighters. I pick a character that's fun and stick with it. I never look at the tier list and let that discourage me. It just means I have to play like I want the win.

  • @TranceCore3 lol you cant really say that, look at daigo he went from Ryu to Yun!!!!!

  • @codept121

    Yun is no Dan, thank you.

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  • Joe never actually buys that soda.

  • Your lazy thats why you pick the top tiers. GAMERBEE.

  • Whenever I watch Sanford (or anyone for that matter) win with Sagat, I never have the thought of "oh wow he's the best player ever". It's like ok so you just won a race in a ferrari against a guy on a bike, big deal. So you may "win", but that doesn't mean you get any respect.

  • @smashbro5 NOPE BUT HE'S GOING TO GET PAID.

  • Sanford is right. can't knock him for sayin the truth.

  • good thing SF4 is better balanced than 3s or CvS2. Dont get me wrong, I love those games, but you could not deny that the toptiers in those games were so present. In SSF4 it seems way more balanced, you see a wider range of characters.

  • @baioken and all of that's going to change when AE comes to consoles, a game that's intentionally imbalanced in order to promote competition.

  • I realized I don't like Sanford Kelly that much...

  • @ClockUpIXA you know, i agree with you on the ost part, but you should geto ver thsi fun thing. who has fun losing ? noone. and these players put cold hard cash on the line more than just once in a while. people who mainly play online and never had to spend quarter after quarter for matches just see things from a different point of view. not a better/worse one, but from a different one. imagine you paid a quarter for every match you ever lost to a sagat in vanilla, and for every other match.

  • @IAmKingHomey You mean $1 for every match. Hahaha...

  • Why s0 seRioUs?

  • dat nigga

  • R.I.P Chinatown Fair.

  • lol thumbs up who peeped that J&L bag homeboy with the white shirt has. Damn everybody and their momma shops at J&L smh..

  • Even tho i disagree with him, look at where he's at. He's successful for the most part. The cold hard truth

  • That light skinned brother be looking an awful lot like Brian Wade from Generation Kill.

  • Fuck top tiers, you're like mainstream bitches that listen to justin bieber cuz he's always on the radio/tv. If you can master a character, you can react and counter any character that comes your way. Kuroda owned with Q, a bottom tier character......hakan will own your asses in the right hands.

  • God, I fucking hate these types of assholes.

  • Different things.. top tiers and potential of a character once you know them inside out :) doesn't matter if it's a top tier then.

  • where is this ? china? japan? O_o

  • He's been picking top tiers since Mvc2 so i dont know why hes complaining. I still respect him though since hes an overall good player

  • I see his point, everyone does not have the ability to take any character and make them good here in the U.S., so make it easier on yourself and go top tier. That said I i have to disagree. That very thing is whats wrong with today's gamers, Ready to take the shortcut, the easy way. You know why the same old school players are still tops? Because of Arcades. 80% of you kids that play today have don't know what it's like to play for" blood" in arcades. There were no such thing as casuals lol.

  • He's always bitching about something... Im sorry like most of the vids ive seen are of him whining or bitching about something. He's a great competitor so I really dont understand why you complain SO much. YOUR FUCKING LIVING THE DREAM! But I have nothing against Stanford Im just commenting on what ive seen so far.

  • @CurtisWill99 Well he is a smart dude, I personally think he's just frustrated and tired of people choosing lower tier characters, and trying to make them look godlike, and if they lose with low tiers, they complain about top tiers, either way it's looked at people will complain about low or top tiers.

  • this vids old, get with it comments

  • momochi should pick a top tier

  • Top tier= street fighter for noobs.

    If you are an amazing player tiers mean fuck all.

  • I kind of under stand this because i main a low tier character (claw), alot of times i will out play characters but still lose because people mash out links in between my pokes or RCF and its so annoying i was thinking about switching to a top tier, but i really cant find myself doing that because in this game it seems only top tiers can be succesful but i would like to prove that wrong much like other people who main claw Tatsu or Makoto of the top of my head,

  • @gamer2180 I main claw but now I am starting using abel,I cant believe the difference man:I have this friend with guile(decent) and it is a struggle fight him with vega(1 year of use) but now with abel(less than1 month of use) I own his ass with ease,just one of the examples.

    PICK THE TOP TIERS ........ JUST PICK THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @VampireHunter82 Well what top tear would you reccomend cause i really dont know who to use ive always used claw!!!!!

  • @gamer2180 Honestly now that vega is "apparently" even more nerfed in arcade ediction I higly recommend to quit this game.I am tired of useless characters conceived like shit just because they are not the"Main storyline guys"Play with tekken 6 or super street fighter 2 turbo instead, where "bottom tier" characters win tournaments.

  • Yeah, just stop pausing the game during your matches, everything will be okay.

  • Pick a top tier.

  • Im really feeling this because I main with Gouken. If there was a SSF$ character who got screwed BIG time it was Gouken. I cant get myself to play with another character and it has let to many a headache but I have gotten better and I really got good at fighting Ryu's , Ken's and Cammy's and Sagat's. Since those are the main characters that people pick. Someone could play with a Ken or Ryu with a BLINDFOLD on and still win. Everything they DO connects and you can Ultra off. Gouken? nope

  • Chinatown Ny!

  • who are the ssf4 top tier characters?

  • Words of wisdom. Everyone goes to top tier because in the end they are lazy.

  • @hune182

    Everyone? I don't think so

  • @spiderbonez Quiet Sho

  • @wwecrazy

    :(

  • @hune182

    Don't look at it as being lazy. Look at it as taking the path of least resistance. The win in the end is the same; why work hard with a bad character when you can have an easy time with a good character?

    Though 99.9% of the time, you'll do better with a character you like than just whoring a top tier.

  • @LeftyHangsLower As to the first part thats in essence laziness...choosing something with a low learning curve/resistant is taking the easy road why work harder with the lower tiers?...As to the second I agree we dont have much proof casual and tournaments with a few exceptions (Gamerbee, Vangief, Wildcat, Gipie for example) the best players I have played and have my ass handed to me have been the lower "tiers" and nerfed characters that where dropped by most players in general.

  • @hune182

    If you want a steak for dinner, are you going to go to a restaurant to get it, or are you going to go out, kill a cow, cut off the piece you want, season it, cook it etc.? You'll obviously choose the first option; does that make you lazy? Sure, going out and preparing it yourself might make you feel better, but regardless of which option you choose, you get a steak in the end. We take the path of least resistance in our lives every single day. It's called being efficient, not lazy.

  • @LeftyHangsLower One I am talking about this video. Everyone wants to win including myself and everyone who has viewed/commented but some people just want to win for ego/money/etc and choose something thats either easy to master or something that is overpowered rather then working for it which is in my opinion laziness. To your point sure you go get the steak prepared but who knows what you are getting old/deceased/tampered etc the "efficient path" is not always the safest or wisest path

  • @hune182

    No, you said taking the path of least resistance was lazy, don't try and change that. And don't get too caught up on the specifics of my example. Fine, here's another one; stop living in a house that professional contractors built for you, you lazy bastard. Go build your own :P

    The point I'm trying to make is: it's not about HOW you win, it's WHETHER you win. I think we should agree to disagree though, I don't think we're convincing each other any time soon.

  • @LeftyHangsLower I agree we probably wont but at least this is civil conversation rather then the screaming matches that usually happen in Youtube

  • @hune182

    Haha, I agree, that's always nice. We managed to make our points without using a single racial slur, that's pretty awesome of us :P

  • @hune182 but there's a difference between liking a character and being a tier whore. lol I agree with you 100 percent.

  • @hune182

    And useless. And weak.

    

  • Mans just mad cause he lost due to a top tier a character while he uses a character that works harder to win.

    Real talks to sanford: Work harder.

  • Oh Sanford... "I want the money to work for me, I'm tired of working for the money". That is some real mother fucking talk, gangster. True that. Sanford truly knows how to keep it gangster.

  • thats why the street fighter since is shit and thats why we get slapped at sbo, until that whore out the top tier shit stops the since ant going no where

  • @thomasfigueroa What?

  • wtf was he talkin bout with that ultra shit lol

  • This video is the realest talk.. pick a top tier and chances are you will win more...

  • drunk as fuck, you can tell. or high.

  • Wow what a fag.

  • Sakura ftw

  • Lol am i missing something here? Everyone can choose top tier or otherwise. I am so sick of peopl complaining about Ryu being overpowered etc. Fkn deal with it.

  • i want the money to work for me i'm tired of working for the money

  • "Ima keep that shit SO real right now."

    Lmfao. Those two other guys looked like they were about to crack up too.

  • shut the fuck up sanford,lol. "IMA KEEP THIS SHIT SOOOO REAL RIGHT NOW"

  • play who you want to play. If your actually into your character then you will win for your hard word. I think thats the point of the gamerbee phenomenon cause look he too a so called crap combo character and proved a point so basically play your character and over come thier weaknessess. For sanford it sounds really stupid to go tiers cause you lose. it just means he's not putting his practice in all the way.

  • i had respect for sanford until i saw this video

  • the white dude at 1:04 was like this niggar is toooooooooooooo "realllllllllllllllllllll", i can't talk to him anymore lol, fuck it.

  • I picked a top tier. I lost.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer hahahaahahaaa NICE

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer Ehh, a lot of that was lack of match-up experience. Same with Inthul.

  • @acmullarkey That's irrelevant. Sandford is encouraging people to be tier whores, and people like Gamerbee and Mike Z have proven the advantages of running against the grain. Justin can make all the exuses he wants, Gamerbee still triumphed in the end. Surely getting destroyed by Vangief was a lack of match-up experience as well?

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer gamerbee is one in like fifty people, the other 49 pick top tiers, thats just how it is, sanford is right in saying if you want to win, you have a greater chance with a top tier, i wish it wasn't like that but thats how it is, when pick underused chars like fuerte, or dee jay i get raped, then i pick ryu or guile, and i win a lot more often. it's the sad truth unfortunatley

  • @phoenix9909 I don't think you understand what I just said. Gamerbee's Adon and Vangief's Zangief beat Justin's Rufus. STRIPFIGHTERIV's Dan beat Daigo's Ryu (I don't care if it wasn't a tourney match, it still counts). It can be done. It has been done. Defeating fools who think tier whoring guarantees success just make's the underdog's victory that much more satisfying.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer thats true, but MAJORITY, win with top tiers, my favorite players are the ones that picked underused chars, like kai's fuerte, or gamerbee's adon, but it just really difficult wining with those chars. tier whoring don't guarantee sucess but it sure as hell increases the chances of wining

  • @phoenix9909

    That may be so in some cases, but winning isn't always everything. There's no pride in a consistent win with high-tier characters.

    Maybe those pro pro pros are shameless and love lying to themselves, but the truth is there isn't any pride or dignity in that either.

  • @SeventhSun i agree, i like using cody and dee jay, but i will get raped by people that use yun and yang in AE because they are extremely overpowered, quite frustrating.

  • @phoenix9909 i use ken and i get wrecked against yun and yang. but in the end isn't it about knowing the matchup? knowing whats punishable and whats not? or am i wrong. or take zangief vs ken for example, i lose this match most of the time, but is the fault on me that I dont know the matchup well? or is it because zangief has incredibly good damage and moves. same with yun and yang, is it because of their good tools? or is it because i dont know the matchup.

  • @niyok671 It's because you picked Ken.

  • @SeventhSun You can't eat pride or dignity but you can eat with the money you make from WINNING Evo. Professional players rely on prize money and sponsors, you don't get prize money if you don't place well and no one wants to sponsor a loser.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer Picking low tier characters because they're low tier is tier whoring. Have fun losing.

  • @LobeliaM72 Picking a low tier shows you have more balls than the 999 losers in the room who picked Ryu just because they heard he was good. I don't think you understand anything I just wrote: Gamerbee, STRIPFIGHTERIV, Vangief. Have fun making up excuses when you lose to a low tier character.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer This is what low tier faggots actually believe. Have fun losing.

  • @LobeliaM72 "Low tier faggots". That's some raw intellect you've got there.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer Yeah, I know. I'm a genius, but it doesn't take a genius to know that you're only playing a shitty character as a desperate cry for attention.

  • @LobeliaM72 And psychic too? On that note, all I can say is, um, thanks for giving in to my "desperate cries for attention"?

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer Two words: Unknown Matchups

  • @SaikyoDanSRK That's a typical (and weak) excuse. If you take the game seriously, and are truly "playing to win", you should know your stuff.

  • @themysterymeatman I honestly can't blame someone for not being a complete genius with matchups against low tier characters, especially since the game had only been out for a few months.

  • @SaikyoDanSRK That's true. Once again, Gamerbee proved the advantages of picking a character nobody would expect.

  • @themysterymeatman gamerbee is a different story, look at yeb at wcwz 1 he styled his way through it and after that went nowhere, people still don't know how to play gen that well and there are still no popular gens.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer Whats that meant to mean, Adons a really good character in SSF4, better than most, has great damage, his specials arent punishable if you space them correctly and they do loads of chip damage, Ultra can be fadcd, gets up quicker than most, making jump ins hard, good speed, good air to airs, need i say more?

  • @Gnabepro That's what he means - Adon's not top tier, but Gamerbee learning him well and using him at a high level of play showed that he's good despite the tier lists.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer wat r u talkin about he didnt win evo

  • @meatandwad So?

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer He lost to a Top Tier.

  • @EddieLowFilthSlayer Luckily Adon was a character with hidden talent. Tell that to a Dan player lol

  • @abevu83 SAIKYO!!!!!

  • javits is just like... uuuhhhh, he has lost it!

  • @ExBrutalion

    Yeah, Javits reaction to all of this is priceless :D

  • what a bunch of fucking faggots

  • hes fucking high as a mutha fucka

  • maybe he should follow his own advice

  • Watching all these videos and ish make me loathe the fact that i'm not in new york. There barely are much arcades down here in florida. I mean forums are dope, but I want the experience.

  • @YourHomieHenry NYC only has 1 arcade with SF4, and thats Chinatown Fair