Anyways, who cares anymore...I have come to understand, that unless a person is willing to free himself from the institutionalized thinking, then he will never see the other view point. This is the same for both sides. My sister is die hard Christian. I mean, the bible is perfect to her. I on the other hand asked too many questions and brought out too many contradictions in the bible, there for, I was not liked too much and ultimately had to leave.
I don't think anybody can absolutly prove anything beyond a shadow of douth. One thing that is for sure, is that mankind is capable of great love and great evil. In the face of great evil, mankind has shown a tendacy to hope that there is a better place, a better tomorrow. That the evil dooers will be punished by an almighty good being, who knows of the victim's pain and suffering. The all knowing being will bring justice upon the evil dooer. This is but of course just one small example.
religion is personal... faith has done wonders for me and countless billions. It seems like most atheists are miserable and take joy only in raining on peoples' parades.
what an objective claim. The hostility that you will find in most atheists is a response to the absolute ignorrance of those who preach nonsense. The foundational beliefs of our constitution: freedom, liberty, justice - (meaning reason) - are contrary to yours. Practice your beliefs, but expect them to never alter our constitution - and have no hard feelings. If this upsets you, then relocate to your holyland.
what seems and what is true are completely different things. first of all, have some critical thought, and realize, just because you've heard a few cranky atheists, they don't represent the whole. You don't see Norway, Sweden, Holland etc. (very atheistic cultures) 'raining on people's parades'. i see religious fundies raining on people's parades all the time with their wars. Atheists don't care much about faith, only when it is forced upon them.
Atheists aren't miserable. We take all the joy out of life because we know that there is no afterlife, so we dont waste our precious time in religion. We don't live in fear that if I will make a sin, I will burn in hell for eternity. I would like to hear on of the "wonders" faith has done to u. If u say that its ur child then don't waste ur time. U fucked with her/him -> some stuff happened with sperm and egg cell = ur child. Not a miracle. For everything there is an explanation.
You are a Bore. A man of marginal intellectual stimuli.
Your going to have to do much better in your arguments, if you wish to find God. Oh thats right, your POPe is your God, You just follow his marching orders. You are nothing other then a Robot, and like a robot have no passion for the debate ether way! Go back to your Monastery, and tell your God, the POPE you have failed him.
Indoctrination of the supernatural in children is ubiquitous. Raising children to believe in any supernatural as fact delays their developing some critical thinking skills, and in turn, as these children grow and work and rule and teach their children, a great loss in potential development of civilizations result, over, and over, and over again. Have you told a child who asks you that you believe 'there is NO god' lately!
Your comment is disgusting and perverted, and shows that your understanding of life in general is pathetically limited. You don't even know what critical thinking means. You speak and think like a child. Don't bother responding; I have no interest in conversation with a retard like you.
Very elequently put (that's sarcasm). I think what john was getting at is, religion is by it's nature based on blind faith. It's held up as an actual virtue to "just believe" things. And that kind of thinking does (to use one of your words) retard critical thinking. Science on the other hand, is built on examining evidence and testing theories. You seem to fall in the first camp... which apparently is why you can't respond with much besides name-calling.
John , how the hell do you know either way if there is or isn't a God ? You don't . You don't really know , no one really knows . And that's the bottom line . You're just as delusional as these strong theists that assert THEY KNOW GOD . You atheists are just as delusional and stupid as they are .
For the umpteen thousandth time: The believer, not the non-believer, bears the burden of proof! It's impossible to prove that leprechauns DON'T exist. So am I delusional if I assert categorically that there are no leprechauns?
Anyways, who cares anymore...I have come to understand, that unless a person is willing to free himself from the institutionalized thinking, then he will never see the other view point. This is the same for both sides. My sister is die hard Christian. I mean, the bible is perfect to her. I on the other hand asked too many questions and brought out too many contradictions in the bible, there for, I was not liked too much and ultimately had to leave.
metalbandsrule 3 years ago 3
I don't think anybody can absolutly prove anything beyond a shadow of douth. One thing that is for sure, is that mankind is capable of great love and great evil. In the face of great evil, mankind has shown a tendacy to hope that there is a better place, a better tomorrow. That the evil dooers will be punished by an almighty good being, who knows of the victim's pain and suffering. The all knowing being will bring justice upon the evil dooer. This is but of course just one small example.
metalbandsrule 3 years ago
religion is personal... faith has done wonders for me and countless billions. It seems like most atheists are miserable and take joy only in raining on peoples' parades.
dungeonmistress46290 4 years ago
what an objective claim. The hostility that you will find in most atheists is a response to the absolute ignorrance of those who preach nonsense. The foundational beliefs of our constitution: freedom, liberty, justice - (meaning reason) - are contrary to yours. Practice your beliefs, but expect them to never alter our constitution - and have no hard feelings. If this upsets you, then relocate to your holyland.
ADAMKTN 4 years ago 11
'it seems like most atheists are miserable'
what seems and what is true are completely different things. first of all, have some critical thought, and realize, just because you've heard a few cranky atheists, they don't represent the whole. You don't see Norway, Sweden, Holland etc. (very atheistic cultures) 'raining on people's parades'. i see religious fundies raining on people's parades all the time with their wars. Atheists don't care much about faith, only when it is forced upon them.
Thrashaero 4 years ago 4
Atheists aren't miserable. We take all the joy out of life because we know that there is no afterlife, so we dont waste our precious time in religion. We don't live in fear that if I will make a sin, I will burn in hell for eternity. I would like to hear on of the "wonders" faith has done to u. If u say that its ur child then don't waste ur time. U fucked with her/him -> some stuff happened with sperm and egg cell = ur child. Not a miracle. For everything there is an explanation.
WoWaddict3d 4 years ago 5
Is it not better to be patient with those that do not understand and not try impose oneself onto them?
andrewjseverin 4 years ago
You are a Bore. A man of marginal intellectual stimuli.
Your going to have to do much better in your arguments, if you wish to find God. Oh thats right, your POPe is your God, You just follow his marching orders. You are nothing other then a Robot, and like a robot have no passion for the debate ether way! Go back to your Monastery, and tell your God, the POPE you have failed him.
MoeDuddly 5 years ago
Indoctrination of the supernatural in children is ubiquitous. Raising children to believe in any supernatural as fact delays their developing some critical thinking skills, and in turn, as these children grow and work and rule and teach their children, a great loss in potential development of civilizations result, over, and over, and over again. Have you told a child who asks you that you believe 'there is NO god' lately!
JohnHasSeriousQ 5 years ago
Your comment is disgusting and perverted, and shows that your understanding of life in general is pathetically limited. You don't even know what critical thinking means. You speak and think like a child. Don't bother responding; I have no interest in conversation with a retard like you.
Quinron55 4 years ago
Very elequently put (that's sarcasm). I think what john was getting at is, religion is by it's nature based on blind faith. It's held up as an actual virtue to "just believe" things. And that kind of thinking does (to use one of your words) retard critical thinking. Science on the other hand, is built on examining evidence and testing theories. You seem to fall in the first camp... which apparently is why you can't respond with much besides name-calling.
circusfreeak 4 years ago
John , how the hell do you know either way if there is or isn't a God ? You don't . You don't really know , no one really knows . And that's the bottom line . You're just as delusional as these strong theists that assert THEY KNOW GOD . You atheists are just as delusional and stupid as they are .
IIIESSENCIANIII 4 years ago
I believe the universe is ruled by a big frog, outside time and space. Prove me wrong.
muslim4l1fe 4 years ago
Frogs take up space. Therefore the creature you posit to exist cannot be a frog.
spud2290 4 years ago
For the umpteen thousandth time: The believer, not the non-believer, bears the burden of proof! It's impossible to prove that leprechauns DON'T exist. So am I delusional if I assert categorically that there are no leprechauns?
scotpens 4 years ago 7