and false doctrine is more prevalent and readily accessible than ever because of its availability through the internet. Search for the origins of the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine. Why was this not in the church until the 1800's? Why is it that when you read the early church fathers there is no mention of Christians not being here when the antichrist comes to power? (for example see 'A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs', edited by David Bercot). Something is very wrong here, folks.
@tmalone10 where have you found these quotes? I'm open to being wrong on this part but not without definitive proof. I've read pages and pages of quotes from the early church fathers looking for this position but each one I've read refers to the saints in the last days standing firm against the antichrist.
to every Christian reading this, please carefully examine this doctrine from both sides through the lens of Scripture and not by what your pastor says. The fact that the Left Behind series sold so well over the past couple of decades should be a red flag given that American Christianity today is the most Biblically illiterate generation this world has known since the Dark Ages. Today there is little to no emphasis on repentance, holiness, or reading the Bible for yourself in most churches...
the rapture has already came, no one made it, onward..... God didnt put no jet packs on your back.... put your seat belt on we are going for a ride.....yee-haw.....
1Thessalonians 5:8-11 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
I believe God's Word over some who have commented here. We are not appointed to wrath!
@abby0campbell we are not appointed to God's wrath, but that passage is not an argument supporting a pre-tribulation rapture. It's about our eternal destiny which thankfully does not include Hell. No rapture mentioned anywhere in that entire chapter. The wrath of the beast is what believers in the last days will be subjected to for a short while, and not the wrath of God. (see Revelation ch 13:7 and ch 9:1-6).
@JohnnyDoe1012.. taking scripture for what it says not out of context. There's a difference between persecution of Christians which we all experience to some extent. You should know we are referring to being removed before the 7 yr Trib. Enduring to the end is referring to those saved during the Trib and to all Christians regardless of when they lived. The Holy Spirit will continue His ministry thru the Trib it's assumed the rapture will move the restrained Holy Spirit out of the way.
@abby0campbell can I just be honest here? I've heard 1 Thessalonians 5 used in support of pre-trib rapture so many times, and it is a disservice to the Word of God because this is not an exegetical analysis of Scripture. Instead of taking the meaning from the text alone, pre-supposition is inserted into Bible passages like this (in this case; 'it must be referring to the rapture so that's what it says''). That is akin to putting words in somebody's mouth that they never said.
@JohnnyDoe1012..at least you keep open mind.Just think the evidence is there. A preacher mentioned John 14 last night it really supports the pre-trib rapture. Jesus preparing a mansion for us that where He is we may be also! In Rev 19:14 it says we return with Him at the battle of Armageddon! Then 1 Cor 15:23-24 resurrection order 1st Jesus, then raptured Saints Then comes the end- The Tribulation period where at the end Jesus re-takes control of the earth.
@ButteWhat John 14 says He goes to prepare a place for us. Nope, again no mention of a rapture in that entire chapter or that He's returns twice. He is returning once. Revelation 19:14 says it is the armies of Heaven that follow Jesus. In all other passage in which the armies of Heaven are mentioned in the Bible, it refers to angels. 1 Cor 15:23-24 says this: 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end...!
@ButteWhat it says once Jesus comes back it is the end! 'vs 23those who are Christ's at His coming. vs 24THEN COMES THE END'. If pre-trib is correct, it should say 'those who are Christ's at His coming. Then the Great Tribulation which will last a few years, and then the end comes after that.' These verses you are posting support a post-trib rapture if anything.
You never answered my question about John 3. If the Holy Spirit is removed at the Rapture, how do people get saved afterwards?
@ButteWhat I should add that Rev 19:14 could possibly include all of the saints that fell asleep in the Lord previously since this is the battle of Armageddon. But it primarily refers to angels and not saints. And where in this verse does it indicate that this is Jesus' 2nd return? Not His second coming, but His 2nd return. If pre-trib is correct then He returns twice. Scripture indicates one return and only one.
@JohnnyDoe1012..the Holy Spirit will not stop His ministry but God will use the 144,000 and 2 witness's. In Rev 19:14 it says the army returning in clean, white linen, that can only be the Saints. There is only 1 return of Christ but he meets us in the air prior to the Trib 1st Thess 4:16. Also check out Ed Hindson's teaching will church go thru Tribulation on here.
@ButteWhat brother (or sister), I'm sorry but you need to know how to interpret the Word from the original languages. Blueletterbible . org for example has the words in the original Hebrew and Greek from which the Bible is translated, and the Rev 19:14 you quoted only mentions armies. This is not definitive proof that it is the saints only, and even if it is then this does not prove the pre-trib rapture by itself.
@ButteWhat I'll stick with the Bible as far as teachings go. I do not take the word of man over the word of God. Pre-trib rapture= 1st return of Christ. You quote where Jesus says He goes to prepare a place for us and then comes back for us as being supportive of your position and then say He's only returning once? John 14:3 says He will come back again and receive us. If He comes back to whisk away His church before the great tribulation then He returns once, and then again. Hence twice.
very exciting times we live in! Also here is another major prophecy fulfilled: And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.-- Luke 21:24
Jesus prophesied the fall of Jerusalem that would take place in 70 A.D., and there would not be a single Jewish ruling presence there until 1967 when they took it back in the Six Day War! Our Lord is returning soon, folks!
@JohnnyDoe1012..check this out where Satan is kicked out of heaven by the angel Michael Revelation 12:7 and takes control of Antichrist. Daniel 12 corresponds talking about the Tribulation "And at that time" "your people shall be delivered" in other words set us free or liberate us from the Antichrist which other verses it says people that become Christians will be given in to his hand or killed.
@ButteWhat Daniel 12:1 starts with 'at that time'... at what time; during the events in Daniel 11. Daniel 12 does not correspond with Revelation 12 just because they have the same chapter number. When Scripture was written it was not given numbers for the chapters and verses. Those were added several hundred years ago.
Pre-trib rapture teaches that before things get too awful, we will just suddenly be whisked away and escape it. Well about Sudanese Christians? Where was their rapture?
@ButteWhat and continuing on my comment just posted a minute ago, where was the rapture for believers suffering under communist China and the Soviet Union? Google 'Corrie Ten Boom and the rapture' to read a powerful example of how the rapture teaching does NOT equip Christians for the end times. Instead of following Scriptural commands to endure to the end (Matthew 10:22, 24:13, for starters among many other verses), it gives Christians a false hope of escape.
I like this video, however after reading through the Bible in its entirety I no longer believe in a pre-trib rapture. The army mentioned in Revelation 9 is supernatural and will not be China or India. BUT, I will say that this video gets it right on Israel being a major signpost that Jesus is returning soon. He brought them back to the land and restored them to their rightful place because He, the King of Kings, will reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years before the final judgment.
2nd coming of Jesus is to prove - Jesus is not God , a man , a Prophet like Moses , Isaac , Jacob , Solomon , David , etc. No divine powers except special mu'jizat (miracles of prophets ) i.e walk on water , cure the lepers/blind , supplicate for manna / salwa from heaven , etc. For the Jews - to prove that he is not dead and to disapprove the false Messiah ( Mosech , the antiChrist ) . Your saviour is only Allah . Prophets are only to show mankind the way to Allah ( Elohim / Yahweh ) .
..continuation - Prior to that the Dajjal's system would already be in place ( NWO ) Just to share - Jesus 2nd coming would be in Damascus ( the mosque with white minaret ) descending with 2 angels , wearing safron robes with beads of sweat on his forehead prior to dawn prayer . His complexion would be rosy white , straight hair central parting till shoulder level . After dawn prayer with Al Mahdi , he will kill Dajjal at the gate of Lud ( now , Lydia / near Ben Gurion airport in Israel ) .
All souls will die , thus Enoch cannot be raptured . Jesus will eventually die after his 2nd coming . Raptured cannot be the truth because mankind need to complete their life cycle prior to the endtimes ( end of the world , not 2012 as many pundits put it ) . Tribulation period in Islam may last for '3 years' - 1st year - 1/3 rain will be witheld , 2nd year 2/3 of rain will be witheld and 3rd year all rain would be witheld . With conditions already difficult Dajjal (antiChrist) would appear
There is no rapture.....Christ's kingdom comes after the tribulation. The dead in Christ will rise 1st and those that remain will be changed in the twinkling of an eye.
That is where we meet the lord in the air.
The Bible says we must endure till the end, many of us will lose our lives.
Thinking that you will be taken out of the way is a comfort thought.
The pretrib rapture did not exist before the 1800s and that is a FACT!
When all the pretribbers are left here waiting,many will lose faith
@mockerofscoffers 1. Christians following away during trib. period is not Biblically possible (Matt. 24:24). 2. If the rapture happens post-trib. who will populate the Millennium. If dead in Christ rise first then those alive who will be left Can't be those who have taken mark for obvious reasons. Can't be Jewish remnant they will know the Lord by midway point of trib. period (Rev. 12:17). Your theory doesn't add up Biblically. Please place someone in the Millennium.
@tmalone10 The rapture is not Biblical. Noah was not raptured away from the earth.
There is no 3rd coming of Christ, he would have to come to rapture the saints pretrib and then come again to set up his kingdom, there is only one second. It says we meet the lord in the air, that does not mean we fly of anywhere else. Research when the rapture became doctrine in the church, it wasn't always. You can't just add something in because of interpretation.
@mockerofscoffers stop scoffing and tell me who will populate the Millennium. Someone must. You can't throw the Millennium out just because it does not support the post-trib rapture theory. You should be able to go from the tribulation period right into the Millennium with humans to populate this time. Please do so and prove the post-trib. rapture is correct. If you can't it's simply not true.
@tmalone10 Those who survive the tribulation in Christ will be changed in the twinkling of an eye after the dead in Christ have risen also to their new bodies. Thessalonians 4:16 Corinthians 15:51.
These are the people to populate the Millennial new Jerusalem from where Christ will reign.
Now you please show me scriptures showing Jesus returning thrice???And also explain why the rapture did not exist in the early Church?
@mockerofscoffers The rapture did exist during the early church. Se how easy it is to say that. Just because you say it doesn't exist doesn't make it so. If you want proof just go to the Pre-trib. research center. They have plenty of scholarly articles that date the pre-trib rapture back to the early church. Frankly, when the pre-trib. rapture was being taught has no baring on its authenticity. So I'm not going to dwell on that. There are plenty of research sites you can go to.
@mockerofscoffers when the rapture takes place, those raptured will receive new heavenly bodies. Those bodies will not be able to give birth (Mark 12:25). They will be incorruptible bodies (I Cor. 15:42). The fact that you did not know that tells me you are a new Christian. Thanks for your comments.
@tmalone10 The great falling away will happen, and many of these numbers will be made up of those who put all their faith in the rapture, and when it does not happen and when things get really bad this will lead to apostasy of the Church. Christ makes it quite clear we must endure to the end.
Read Luke 17:26-27, 34-36 Mathew 13: 24-30. This states when Jesus comes he will destroy the wicked and those left are his. Jesus speaks of his Angels GATHERING OUT THE WICKED, not rapturing us.
@reliinfo I disagree Mathew 24: 37-38 , The coming of the son of man will be like in the days of Noah, this is stated crystal clear, the evil on the earth was destroyed and the only good( Noah and his family were preserved) Do you think Christ is going to rapture us only for the tribulation and then set us back down for his millenium? How shall the meek inherit the earth? I only say this so all are prepared to endure till the end so we may inherit the kingdom of god.
@mockerofscoffers In the days of Noah they were lifted up from the earth in the ark and the earth and the people were destroyed. the harvest will take the believers out after the tribulation and than the wrath of YHWH will be released.
At the climax of the battles following armageddon YHM will return with the angels and all believers and defeated the
unbelievers and establish the millennium reign.than all earthly promises will be fulfilled,.
@tredezbull correction; Acts 3:21 tells us that he'll stay in heaven till it's time to restore all things, to me it's just another verse that fits nicely with the rest of what the scripture clearly reveals regarding the end of days. I once came from a strong view point of the rapture being pre trib, so i know the verses and the arguements for and against. however, the pre trib view makes so many assumption and scenerios to try and push their case. I suggest you study the Greek meanings more
@reliinfo The Bible clearly states we must endure to the end, THE END not the beginning of the end. If we are raptured away who is Jesus talking about? The rapture is a false doctrine that is not biblical, it was created in 1830 by a 15 year old catholic girl called Margaret Mac who claimed she had a vision. Job,Paul, Joseph, king David, Daniel the list goes on, they all endured tribulation, but pretribbers think they have a free ticket.
@mockerofscoffers Harvest is after tribulation, partial, pre. mid and post (one event) tribulation rapture theories are not biblical, the end and the last day is for the believers the day of the harvest and it is after trib pre-wrath. Therismos is in Re 14:15 referring to 1 Thes 4;17, 1 Cor 15:52, Ma 24:31.
@mocker Theres a DISTINCTION between the Church and Israel. To suggest that the Church will remain on earth for the Trib CONFUSES the message of Daniel's 70th week, and causes the Church TO RECEIVE what was APPOINTED to ISRAEL.
In the 70th week (during the "trib") as prophesied in Zechariah 2/3's of Israel will NOT SURVIVE, but PERISH. A 1/3 of them will go through THE FIRE, REFINED like silver/gold, and will SAY that the Lord is God. It's NOT the Church who will be refined by that judgment!
@DOO718 Distinctions between the gentile believes and Israel depend on scriptural context; both separatism and replacement theories limit the correct exegesis.
Harvest is after the tribulation and before the wrath of YHWH.
There is a lot of in-reading to justify pre-trib-rap theories.
@DOO718 I thought we were grafted into Isreal?why were we?. are'nt we the lampstand and Isreal the olive tree? who are the two witnessess? Also, how many resurrections will there be? and where are they mentioned in the bible? do you limit God's ability to protect. Answer with scriptural facts and without assumptions/scenarios thrown in, then buy a ticket to a country where Christians(the Church) are killed daily for their beliefs and tell them (the Church) wont face the tribulation period.
@mockerofscoffers..the pretrib is biblical. The faithful church Rev 3:10 He said He would keep us from the hour of trial which comes upon the whole world later it says the 10 kings rule with Antichrist for an hour we know it's that 7 yr period. Rev 5:9 "redeemed us to God by Your blood" is being sang by who? before the Trib. Not by the angels! 1st Thess 5:9 "For God did not appoint us to wrath"
@ButteWhat please read Revelation 3:10 in the proper context. This was in the midst of letters to the 7 churches, which are also prophetic representations of the 7 time periods in the church from Christ's crucifixion to His return. If you're going to pick this verse which was addressed to one of the churches as applying to the end times church, then all of the verses apply. Including this:
So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth- Rev 3:16
@ButteWhat also, on what grounds do you say Rev 3:10 applies to the last days only? Because from the days of the early church up until the antichrist comes to power, believers have been persecuted, tortured, burned alive, drawn and quartered, and have had every other horrible fate happen to them. There is zero indication that Revelation 3:10 is written exclusively to the last days church, or that it's interpretation is that He's going to snatch them out of earth before the great tribulation.
@JohnnyDoe1012..believe it's referring to the Tribulation because it refers to the "whole world" and a specific time "hour of trial" which it also says the 10 kings rule w/Antichrist for that long(Rev 17:12). Revelation was a future looking book, 1st Cor 10:11 says the things written were to warn us"! The word WRATH means anger/chastisement which describes the Tribulation..God trying to get people to repent, church aged believers already have repented and are not appointed to God's wrath!
@ButteWhat --"church aged believers already have repented and are not appointed to God's wrath!"--
again, I already said and agree that believers are not subject to God's wrath because we are under the blood of Christ. It is the wrath of the BEAST that believers in the last days will be under, for a very short time.
Please read Revelation chapter 17 in its entirety. There is nothing in there talking about Jesus' 1st return out of 2. He is only returning once.
@JohnnyDoe1012..1st Thessalonians 4 clearly is a seperate occurence being caught up in the clouds. and returning to earth in Revelation. Look at Revelation 7:13 if all Christians were in the Tribulation why would John ask "...Who are these...?" If there were not believers already in heaven why would he have to ask that? 2nd Thess also indicates that the holy spirit who indwells/seals believers has to be taken out of the way before Antichrist can come on the scene...it makes sense.
@ButteWhat regarding Rev 7:13, read verse 14!! It says these are the believers who came out of the great tribulation, which pre-tribbers say we won't be around for!
If 2 Thess. 2 says the Holy Spirit is taken from the earth (but doesn't mention the Spirit, only 'the restrainer'), then how is it that people get saved during the Tribulation? If pre-trib is true, then there are no more believers on earth at the rapture. John 3:3-5 says it is the Spirit who draws us to Christ. Does NOT make sense
@ButteWhat please please please read your Bible in its entirety and stop picking and choosing which verses to read. You can cherry-pick any number of verses in Scripture, take them out of context, and make them say what you want them to. This is how false doctrine is created and propagated.
@ButteWhat and let me just add to my latest couple of comments that I would gladly be wrong on this. If pre-trib is true and I get out of this awful world quicker than I think, then I'm all for it. But I can no longer believe in this doctrine the more I read and study the Word.
@ButteWhat now, regarding 1 Thess 5:9, the wrath mentioned in this verse is talking about the wrath of God taken out on sinners in Hell. A different wrath- the wrath of the beast will, for a time, be taken out on believers during the great tribulation: It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.-- Revelation 13:7
The wrath of God is taken out on the world, and not on His people. (see Revelation chapter 9, for example, especially verses 1-6)
@tmalone10 you use Matthew 24:24 as evidence saying believers can't fall away at this time, but it's neither supporting nor disproving your statement.
--For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.-- Matt 24:24
As for your question about who will populate the earth during the millenium, see Zechariah 14:16-21, as it gives a prophetic image of the aftermath of the battle at Meggido (Revelation 16:16, 19:11-21).
@tmalone10 don't count on the Lord to come back before everything gets too dicey here. He is indeed returning, but look at 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The pre-trib rapture position says it will happen secretly, with folks not realizing until they see piles of clothes where believers were before they were raptured. But look at verse 16:
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first."
@tmalone10 "with the voice of an archangel"? "With the trumpet of God"? How does that fit in with a secret snatching away of people unbeknownst to the rest of the world? No, when Jesus comes back He's going to take His people home, and there will be blood that spills as prophesied in Revelation 19, and the unsaved tribes of the earth will mourn when they see Him (Matthew 24:29-31). Survivors of the aftermath will be around to populate the earth for the millenium. (Zechariah 14)
--And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.--
He who endures to the END shall be saved. Why wouldn't Jesus have said 'hold on until I come back the 2nd time, which is before I come back the 3rd time'?
@mockerofscoffers If you believe in the Lord's all-sufficient work on the cross, then you know that the Church has to be protected from the End Times judgments, NOT purified by them.
You first have to understand the PURPOSE of the tribulation, and the purpose of the rapture:
@mockerofscoffers No man knows the day or hour of the coming of the Son of Man (Mat. 24:36) but Jesus gave us the events to watch for that show His coming is near (v33). The critical event every believer should be ready for is the invasion of Jerusalem by the Antichrist in Mat. 24:15, the bride isn't taken up at His coming til v30!
Actually the timing of a pre, mid, or post tribulation resurrection (rapture) of the elect aren't taught in scripture. According to Jesus, His coming will come after the sun moon and stars go out (6th seal) (Mat. 24:29, Rev 6:12-14) sometime after the middle of the seven years (70th week of Daniel) (Dan. 9:27, Mat. 24:15) no man knows the exact day or hour (Mat. 24:36)
@mockerofscoffers.... if thats true, who will repopulate the earth during the millenial reign?..After all satan is loosed for a short time to attempt a final deception of mankind at the end of the 1000 yrs...and why does Jesus remind believers to be ready at any moment for his return?
Matthew 13: 36-42 READ IT!! Please lemme know what you think. it seems to me that the only "rapture" will be of evil things on earth. If u believe that u are left behind then it will crush your determination.
You have to read the parable of wheat and the tare. then read Matthew 13 36-42. it explains that the tare are the wicked ones that are harvested at the end of the world and thrown into fire. mthw 13: 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; So... the rapture will be of evil ones... i think
@creamiercorn I wasn't sure what you were referring to. If that's what you believe, than you're welcome to believe it. It's not a salvation issue and it's not going to keep you out of heaven. If you know the Lord as Savior that's what matters.
@creamiercorn The parable you are speaking of is the Second Coming of Christ where his feet will touch the Mount of Olives. He will descend to Earth with a mighty army and will reap the earth of the wicked (tares) and they will be cast into fire. This is when the Anti-Christ and false prophet will be cast into the fire, at the end of the tribulation. He will then gather his remaining faithful (those who survived the tribulation) and the millenium kingdom will be set-up.
(continued) The rapture of believers is before the tribulation begins. Jesus comes in the clouds with the shout of the angel, the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we that are alive and remain will be changed and be with the Lord forever. In this instance Jesus is in the clouds, he doesn't touch the ground and the dead in Christ and the living believers are raptured. If you look at the Jewish wedding feast, a pre-trib fits perfectly.
@tmalone10 the rapture and the second coming are two separate events. the removal of the tares is at the end of the tribulation , and separates them from the surviving tribulation saints, seven years after the church is taken at the rapture.
@spekgirl1 The parable you are speaking of is the Second Coming of Christ where his feet will touch the Mount of Olives. He will descend to Earth with a mighty army and will reap the earth of the wicked (tares) and they will be cast into fire. This is when the Anti-Christ and false prophet will be cast into the fire, at the end of the tribulation. He will then gather his remaining faithful (those who survived the tribulation) and the millenium kingdom will be set-up
(continued) The rapture of believers is before the tribulation begins. Jesus comes in the clouds with the shout of the angel, the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we that are alive and remain will be changed and be with the Lord forever. In this instance Jesus is in the clouds, he doesn't touch the ground and the dead in Christ and the living believers are raptured. If you look at the Jewish wedding feast, a pre-trib fits perfectly.
@jmolynn2 Actually the harvest (Ma 24:29)is after the tribulation for believers (mid-period) and before the wrath of YHWH, which ends with the return of YHM on earth.
@spekgirl1 Well if you're right, then I sure hope I freaking DIE before Tribulations then! Most of the best preachers of The Bible are "pre-trib." Why do people have different points of view about the timing? Since we are obviously heading straight on into SOMETHING which will lead to the New World Order... it sure would be nice to have the undisputable belief that we wont BE here then!
@recyclecongress have you watched my series of videos on pre-trib vs 7th trump vs post-trib rapture? Go to my video section and see how I positively prove that a pre-tribulation rapture is the only rapture that is possible. Just saying there will be no pre-trib. rapture is a whole lot easier than proving it. I make that abundantly clear through these videos.
@tmalone10 There are over 30 biblical texts that are suppose to cover the pre-trib-rap theory, unfortunately they don't!
We have been through all of them with Rapture Ready and and other pro pre-trib sites.
Calvary also uses the same stuff to make the point, but it is actually in-reading, pre,mid, post (one event, u-turn) tribs and partial rap are not biblical. Only after tribulation and pre-wrath Harvest and the (later on) return on earth of YHM
1:23 most likely China, India could be coming with them? Really now? And what made you think that? Tensions between China and India are huge especially as China allies more with Pakistan, and India is getting more and more friendly with the western world/the States. Why would they suddenly switch sides? If anything they would be against that big army.
The world may be tricked into war against Israel because of Nibiru coming. Nibiru or wormwood. As above, so below. Evil potentates come in the form of the wayward Nibiru system which in its long cycle Passover had caused worldwide desolation, despair and destructions of past civilizations. The possibility of an extinction level event is very real indeed because Global Elites needs worldwide war situation to declare Martial Law to cover their own exit to limited underground bunkers
Every day after work I sit outside and see the signs in the clouds. Were so close to his return the earth can't take it, The earth will start to move and the storms will increase. The wind from the storm will blow over the whole earth and the thunder will be heard. From the thunder will come the trumpet and from those clouds we will all see Jesus in the sky, Be ready and know him well. ask for forgivness of your sins and be ready for he comes quickly. God bless.....
how bad the world is because of the rejection of god the the commandments....the amount of killings,robberies,lying,lust....and people caring only of themselves due to the love of money....people love money more than god,families so forth...after saying dont love anything more than him...world is a bad place because of peoples rejection of him.....not because of god
were to have athority along with the man in the family, then you would have two heads leading the one body which physically looks like a freak.....you dont know the bible because of your ignorance....if christians lived by the bible (ten commandments) the place would be haeven on earth,,''thou shall not steal,lie,murder, commit adultery,honor you mam & dad,dont have any other gods before me etc.....people love money more than....the bible doesnt say money is evil...its says the LOVE of money
im a christian because i got the holy spirit wen i was 14...bin on this road ever since....how do know gods an asshole...he's like any other person..you cant know all about someone if you never spend time with them...of course there's alot of bad stuff in the bible because of what man chose when god cant effect free will....women not allowed to have athority over men.....i taught was good rule...a family having one parent the male to take the lead....as a family is like a body.....if the women
nice vid whats the song called. the war of armagedon theyre going to attack israel for theyre oil people great video once again and that god have mercy on the unbelievers
blowing themselves up..? women in the islamic faith cannot drive, have a job,if you steal you get your hands chopped off....thats not a loving god..thats lunatics idea of running things...one question...how can you ever recieve anything from god.....since you live in doubt and disbelief.....which is the exact oppisite of what it takes to please god...which is faith.....hebrews 11:6''without FAITH its IMPOSSIBLE to please god.....answer that
@benchpre The type of Muslims you are describing are the terrorists who try to live by the Qur'an exactly. If Christians lived by the Buybull exactly, they'd be just as bad. You don't know this because of your ignorance, but there was a time when it was the Christians who were the terrorists. Why do you think you're a Christian now? It's because your ancestors were forced into it. Fortunately, most Christians today do not follow the Buybull. There is so much you don't know.
you can.....he doesnt ignore you...it happened 3 weeks after i asked that question and at the age of 14 like every other kid i know what taughts look like.....this was different....you dont believe me thats your choice...islam is wrong...allah is a false god....those are the words of muslims who converted from islam to christianity....ex muslim says and i quote''allah is a gangster''....a god of hatred creating the world..? creating life then using his fanatic followers to destroy it by way of
no......of course i have taugts all the time...this was completely different..thats wat im saying.....when i seen those words i knew it was from god..as they werent taugts...it was a word from god.....its not an overactive imagination...it was a real answer..! as someone who doesnt believe in god when the rapture happens what will you be thinking
whole being...you hear the word crystel clear...and the very words you hear...is the answer to the question you asked god so many days ago''.....the word i heard that morning were..''dont keep praying you'll end up doubting'' those words were the answer to the question i asked god about 3 week before getting the answer...the question was'' why do i have to keep on praying...it wasnt all in my head if he experienced the same thing
dollar....it was now 6:40 and im thinking ''its 10 minutes into the programme but what the hell i'll put it on...i then pressed select on the remote...the programme came on.....i then looked at title of the message it said..''hearing from god'...then i listened to his preaching...he said...''all of a sudden your driving down the road and you come to a red light district...then while your waiting for the red light to go green all of a sudden a word drops inside your heart...it penetrates your
no it wasnt taughts friend as it happened when i was 14...meaning every decision you make from the time you have the ability to think onwards...is made from the head thinking taughts and planning your way....in other words those words that dropped inside werent taughts....i knew what taughts looked like that age...this was completely different.......about 7 years later i was out of the house doin stuff at 5pm...i arrived home at 6:30pm..put on the god channel and was about to turn on creflo
@benchpre Are you suggesting that you don't have thoughts when you're 14? They were nothing more than thoughts, but you don't want that. You want proof that your god is real because you are doubting him, but you don't want to doubt. You are making something so simple MUCH more than what it is.
is i want......3 weeks later i got the answer while chatting with my friend at his kitchen table....the words dropped inside me i heard the words..''dont keep praying you'll end up doubting''.....what my point...you cant answer a question someone asked you if you dont exist...!! i cant wait for the rapture..it'll prove every unbeliever to be wrong..!
@benchpre You are correct. Someone can't answer a question if they' don't exist. The problem with your scenario however is that you do not know if it was God who answered you. In fact; the most likely possibility is that you just thought of the answer and you unwisely attributed it to God. Thoughts come to us all the time, and it has nothing to do with gods or fairies magically giving us the answers. There is no God, and you still don't have evidence for him.
i do evanglism all the time.....the amount of athiests out there that tell me im away with the fairies believing in god is unbelievable....but jesus did say the world of people who dont know him will hate christians...because they follow what athiests claim to be imaginary...but when the rature happens VERY VERY SOON what will they say...they'll have no excuse...i pity them....i asked god questuion when i was 14..i said ''lord why do i have to keep on praying until i get the answer for what it
Rapture: Jesus comes as a thief in the night (quietly, suddenly, quickly)...2nd Coming: Jesus comes in Great Power & Glory and EVERY eye will see Him...Rapture: Jesus comes when we LEAST expect Him...2nd Coming: 100# hailstones, all water turns to blood, boils from the sun, all greenery burned up, all mountains & islands disappear, everything in the oceans die, massive starvation, nuclear war & a satanic madman & his followers are trying to cut people's heads off & they still REFUSE to REPENT
Everyone, those people in Isreal are not the biblical jews, stop being decieved, they are all the descendants from Ashkenaz from Noah's son Japeth, The true Isrealites from the bible come from the son of Shem (shemetic People) pick up a bible and actually read it. Gen. 10:3 Askenaz is from Japeth-They even call themselves Ashkanazi Jews. Get a hint, They even know they are not the Jews of the bible, Thus prophecy will not be fullfilled through them. Read Rev 2:9 & 3:9. Don't be decieved!!!
Every time US pressures Israel for Peace, US is facing some kind of Disasters.
watch?v=fe7JYHRWj64
US should keep away itself in this matter, before it(US) gets completely destroyed. Israel is always ready for Peace but not the neighbors of Israel. they don't want the existence of Israel and it's people.
We dont long for the destruction of nonbelievers. We long to b w/ Christ nd c Him restore His world to the way He intended it to be. God said He wishes that NONE would perish. U must stop thinking u have all the answers nd rely on Jesus thru faith. Ive never seen God but Ive seen His work in my life. He's waiting for u to let Him do the same for u. I kno it sounds insane bt Im just like u. A sinner needing forgiveness. Who am I to challenge God? What does it take from me to give my life to Him?
@skin1face my bro or sis in Christ I understand your frustration but Jesus wouldnt want us to talk like this. Some atheists will find Christ and some won't and those who don't will be left here. This saddens me greatly but we can't make people believe. Take the gospel to those who will appreciate it and as the Scripture says do not cast your pearls before swine. I know I'm gonna get slammed for saying all of this but I don't care because the Lord always proves Himself true in His time :)
@icy094 thanks man:) hopefully after the rapture happens everyone left on earth will hopefully repent and be saved. not very many will be saved though.
@skin1face We're so difficult because we actually think. Someone tells you a fairystory & you drop to your knees & worship whatever god you're told to. When someone tells US that a god loves us so much that he murdered his son so that we wouldn't go to a place of eternal torture that he made for us, we first ask ourselves, "does this make any sense?". The answer for anyone who thinks is "no". Then, we ask the next question, "Are Christians insane?" The answer is yes. There's no God.
@nickmorrison1100 i hope you know that god is VERY dissappointed in you. and the only way to get to heaven is through jesus, by believing in him. and not sinning. hope that clears things up. heaven is a take it or leave it option. if you dont believe in jesus, you wont go to heaven. so when you die, youll go to hell.
@skin1face What you say would only mean something if your Heaven and this Jesus guy were actually real. Since they're not, I have nothing to worry about. To tell you the truth; you're god is evil, and I'm glad he's not real. If he was real though, I would cut his head off and mount it on my wall. It'll act as a trophy for killing the most evil being in the history of the universe.
@nickmorrison1100 I know it sounds crazy but have you considered giving it a chance? I know you hear a ton of fanaticism but thats not what this is about. I beg you to at least understand in full what the rapture is about nd why we believe in it. It's not horrible for we who believe. God sent His son here to pay for everything you and I have done against Him so that when he judges sin, we can be spared. All you have to do is believe it by humility and faith. If u choose not to, I wont bother u.
@icy094 I have studied the Rapture, and have concluded that it is only a fairytale story; nothing more. There is no evidence for it, and if it really was to happen, it would be more proof that God is evil. I didn't do anything against God and Jesus that would make me deserve Hell. Further more, faith is a terrible method of believing anything, especially something as big as God and the Rapture. Science is the only way.
@nickmorrison1100 wow. listen to me. you damn well dont deserve to go to heaven, neither do i, neither does any person on earth. we all deserve to go to hell when we die. THANKFULLY god loves us so much he is giving us this gift of eternal life in heaven if we choose to believe in him and accept christ as our lord and savior. if you have sinned ONCE ever, you deserve to go to hell. we all have sinned more than once. so when the rapture happens i hope you are saved as well as the rest of us
@skin1face I deserve to go to a place that's at least like Heaven. I certainly don't deserve Hell. No one deserves Hell. If God is willing to send anyone to Hell, especially because of a few sins, and because we don't believe in him, then that just makes him evil, and perhaps makes him the only being in the world who deserves to go to Hell. If I ever met God, I'd like to throw him into Hell myself. Fortunately, there is no Hell and no rapture. Fairy stories!
@nickmorrison1100 LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR FUCKING SAYING!!!! thats exactly the reason your going to hell. im seriously done talking to you about this. god fucking made hell for satin and the angels that chose satins side, not for us. god made heaven for all of us, anyone who believes in him goes to heaven. he doesnt send ANYONE to hell. you choose your own fate, and by not believing in him, you are choosing hell. fairy storys my fucking ass
@nickmorrison1100 listen to how evil god is, we were all supposed to go to hell when we died because hell is the punishment for commiting sin, since everyone sins, we were all supposed to go to hell. god loved us so much that he sent his OWN son to do die for our sins, because jesus died for us we are now able to pray and be forgiven for our sins, we now have the chance to go to heaven. yeah, what an "evil" god
@skin1face The fact that we were supposed to go to Hell for committing sin is the first point that shows God is evil. The fact that he sent his OWN son to die is another reason he is evil. Two reasons right there why God is evil. Yeah, he is an EXTREMELY evil god.
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@nickmorrison1100 keep on talking all that shit, we all know where your going when you die. if you see god wanting everyone to go to heaven as him being evil, then your FUCKING stupid. when you die you WILL go to hell, you will not see any of your friends or family, you will burn forever and ever, all of eternity, i have tried to show you the way to salvation, you are not excepting gods gift of eternal life, so i am not preaching him to you anymore. i know he's happy that i tried to save you.
@skin1face You can't know where I'm going because you lack the evidence to confirm it. The fact that you see God in this way only shows how brainwashed you are. God created a place of eternal suffering. That's evil. If he doesn't want to send anyone there, he shouldn't. It's as simple as that. If he's willing to send anyone there for not believing in him, then it cannot be disputed that he is absolutely evil. He is "saving" us from something he created in the first place. Evil.
@nickmorrison1100 I do know that Jesus said there will be more people in HELL - THE LAKE OF FIRE - than in Heaven. You will probably be one of them. So Sad. You REJECT Jesus Christ, Hell is your final destinatoin. It's for all eternity, everlasting fire, pain suffering, weeping, wailing & gnashing of teeth, where the fire is NEVER quenched. It's your choice. All who love the Lord will live WITH Him in Heaven, then rule & reign WITH Him in His Kingdom on Earth. Oh yes, He IS real.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Everlasting fire? Pain and Suffering? Gnashing of teeth? Lol. Does this sound like anyone that I'd want to "love"? Think about it. Your god is evil. Lol. Good thing he's not real!
@JesusHoldMyHand1 And it's your choice to worship an evil god who would put anyone in a place of everlasting fire, pain and suffering, and gnashing of teeth. He's evil. You're choosing to worship an evil god that doesn't even exist.
@nickmorrison1100 I don't know why you hate God so much. The EVIL one is satan. He's the FATHER of all lies, murders, adulteries, homosexuality, pedophiles, stealing, etc. Just a word of warning for you, "But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for EVERY careless word they have spoken..." Matthew 12:36 You may one day be very sorry for the One that gives you breath every day, food, water, clothing, job, money to pay your bills. You don't appreciate it.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 I hate God because he is the FATHER of all lies, murders, adulteries, pedophiles, stealing, etc. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but because God hates that too, he is evil. Just a word of warning for you: Stop believing in this bullshit. It's just a sick twisted fairytale that has turned you into a mindless bigot. Repent and leave the Christian lifestyle.
@nickmorrison1100 God says homosexuality is "detestable" "an abomination"...If He had wanted Adam & Steve to be together, He would not have made Eve. Satan will do ALL he can to warp, twist & smother people's minds & brains with lies that will lead them to HELL. See, now I know what the problem is. I pray that you'll reconsider what you have said. Jesus WILL forgive you. You hate God because of YOUR sin. You should HATE satan, the one who tempted you & you accepted his lies.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 God hates homosexuality because he is evil. I could care less what God wants, whether it's Adam & Steve, or Mike & Frank. It doesn't matter what he says becuase he has no authority & his words have no value. God means as much to the world as a turdlet floating on toilet water. See; this proves that God is evil. Only evil persons hate love. Love is the most important thing in this world, & you worship a god that does all he can to prevent love.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Jesus might forgive me, but he needs to ask me for forgiveness first. Satan's a bitch too, but even he's a LOT better than that evil bastard God. Other than a toilet, I can't think of any good use God would have in this world. At least Satan's not as evil as God. He's got really cool horns though. Lol.
@nickmorrison1100 He also likes to dress like a gay clown meets KISS. Totally gross, you don't want to ever be able to see him, trust me. GOD and Jesus way better!!!!!!
@nickmorrison1100 Ok...Jesus spoke in many parables.GAY...stands for happy.Dress as a gay clown.clown is an actor.The devil loves to fool people by acting as though he is good.so The devil is a happy actor for good when in reality is going to rob kill and destroy in the end.
@jnthnnixon Yes; Jesus spoke in parables. So what? Gay was not being used here to mean happy. The Devil is evil, but he is far less evil than God. Rob, kill, and destroy? That's all God does. Lol.
So a bronze aged myth of a guy checking goats entrails for messages from god is what you plan your future on? Hilarious.
Huttate1 4 days ago
and false doctrine is more prevalent and readily accessible than ever because of its availability through the internet. Search for the origins of the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine. Why was this not in the church until the 1800's? Why is it that when you read the early church fathers there is no mention of Christians not being here when the antichrist comes to power? (for example see 'A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs', edited by David Bercot). Something is very wrong here, folks.
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@JohnnyDoe1012 that's not true at all, plenty of mention of the pre-tribulation rapture mention in the early church, but I won't argue with you.
tmalone10 1 week ago
@tmalone10 where have you found these quotes? I'm open to being wrong on this part but not without definitive proof. I've read pages and pages of quotes from the early church fathers looking for this position but each one I've read refers to the saints in the last days standing firm against the antichrist.
JohnnyDoe1012 6 days ago
to every Christian reading this, please carefully examine this doctrine from both sides through the lens of Scripture and not by what your pastor says. The fact that the Left Behind series sold so well over the past couple of decades should be a red flag given that American Christianity today is the most Biblically illiterate generation this world has known since the Dark Ages. Today there is little to no emphasis on repentance, holiness, or reading the Bible for yourself in most churches...
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
the rapture has already came, no one made it, onward..... God didnt put no jet packs on your back.... put your seat belt on we are going for a ride.....yee-haw.....
glinnz05 1 week ago
1Thessalonians 5:8-11 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
I believe God's Word over some who have commented here. We are not appointed to wrath!
abby0campbell 1 week ago
@abby0campbell we are not appointed to God's wrath, but that passage is not an argument supporting a pre-tribulation rapture. It's about our eternal destiny which thankfully does not include Hell. No rapture mentioned anywhere in that entire chapter. The wrath of the beast is what believers in the last days will be subjected to for a short while, and not the wrath of God. (see Revelation ch 13:7 and ch 9:1-6).
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@JohnnyDoe1012.. taking scripture for what it says not out of context. There's a difference between persecution of Christians which we all experience to some extent. You should know we are referring to being removed before the 7 yr Trib. Enduring to the end is referring to those saved during the Trib and to all Christians regardless of when they lived. The Holy Spirit will continue His ministry thru the Trib it's assumed the rapture will move the restrained Holy Spirit out of the way.
ButteWhat 1 week ago
@abby0campbell can I just be honest here? I've heard 1 Thessalonians 5 used in support of pre-trib rapture so many times, and it is a disservice to the Word of God because this is not an exegetical analysis of Scripture. Instead of taking the meaning from the text alone, pre-supposition is inserted into Bible passages like this (in this case; 'it must be referring to the rapture so that's what it says''). That is akin to putting words in somebody's mouth that they never said.
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@JohnnyDoe1012..at least you keep open mind.Just think the evidence is there. A preacher mentioned John 14 last night it really supports the pre-trib rapture. Jesus preparing a mansion for us that where He is we may be also! In Rev 19:14 it says we return with Him at the battle of Armageddon! Then 1 Cor 15:23-24 resurrection order 1st Jesus, then raptured Saints Then comes the end- The Tribulation period where at the end Jesus re-takes control of the earth.
ButteWhat 1 week ago
@ButteWhat John 14 says He goes to prepare a place for us. Nope, again no mention of a rapture in that entire chapter or that He's returns twice. He is returning once. Revelation 19:14 says it is the armies of Heaven that follow Jesus. In all other passage in which the armies of Heaven are mentioned in the Bible, it refers to angels. 1 Cor 15:23-24 says this: 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end...!
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@ButteWhat it says once Jesus comes back it is the end! 'vs 23those who are Christ's at His coming. vs 24THEN COMES THE END'. If pre-trib is correct, it should say 'those who are Christ's at His coming. Then the Great Tribulation which will last a few years, and then the end comes after that.' These verses you are posting support a post-trib rapture if anything.
You never answered my question about John 3. If the Holy Spirit is removed at the Rapture, how do people get saved afterwards?
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@ButteWhat I should add that Rev 19:14 could possibly include all of the saints that fell asleep in the Lord previously since this is the battle of Armageddon. But it primarily refers to angels and not saints. And where in this verse does it indicate that this is Jesus' 2nd return? Not His second coming, but His 2nd return. If pre-trib is correct then He returns twice. Scripture indicates one return and only one.
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@JohnnyDoe1012..the Holy Spirit will not stop His ministry but God will use the 144,000 and 2 witness's. In Rev 19:14 it says the army returning in clean, white linen, that can only be the Saints. There is only 1 return of Christ but he meets us in the air prior to the Trib 1st Thess 4:16. Also check out Ed Hindson's teaching will church go thru Tribulation on here.
ButteWhat 1 week ago
@ButteWhat brother (or sister), I'm sorry but you need to know how to interpret the Word from the original languages. Blueletterbible . org for example has the words in the original Hebrew and Greek from which the Bible is translated, and the Rev 19:14 you quoted only mentions armies. This is not definitive proof that it is the saints only, and even if it is then this does not prove the pre-trib rapture by itself.
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@ButteWhat I'll stick with the Bible as far as teachings go. I do not take the word of man over the word of God. Pre-trib rapture= 1st return of Christ. You quote where Jesus says He goes to prepare a place for us and then comes back for us as being supportive of your position and then say He's only returning once? John 14:3 says He will come back again and receive us. If He comes back to whisk away His church before the great tribulation then He returns once, and then again. Hence twice.
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
@ButteWhat you cannot have it both ways. Either He's returning once (post-trib rapture) or twice (pre-trib rapture)..
JohnnyDoe1012 1 week ago
very exciting times we live in! Also here is another major prophecy fulfilled: And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.-- Luke 21:24
Jesus prophesied the fall of Jerusalem that would take place in 70 A.D., and there would not be a single Jewish ruling presence there until 1967 when they took it back in the Six Day War! Our Lord is returning soon, folks!
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@JohnnyDoe1012..check this out where Satan is kicked out of heaven by the angel Michael Revelation 12:7 and takes control of Antichrist. Daniel 12 corresponds talking about the Tribulation "And at that time" "your people shall be delivered" in other words set us free or liberate us from the Antichrist which other verses it says people that become Christians will be given in to his hand or killed.
ButteWhat 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat Daniel 12:1 starts with 'at that time'... at what time; during the events in Daniel 11. Daniel 12 does not correspond with Revelation 12 just because they have the same chapter number. When Scripture was written it was not given numbers for the chapters and verses. Those were added several hundred years ago.
Pre-trib rapture teaches that before things get too awful, we will just suddenly be whisked away and escape it. Well about Sudanese Christians? Where was their rapture?
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat and continuing on my comment just posted a minute ago, where was the rapture for believers suffering under communist China and the Soviet Union? Google 'Corrie Ten Boom and the rapture' to read a powerful example of how the rapture teaching does NOT equip Christians for the end times. Instead of following Scriptural commands to endure to the end (Matthew 10:22, 24:13, for starters among many other verses), it gives Christians a false hope of escape.
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
I like this video, however after reading through the Bible in its entirety I no longer believe in a pre-trib rapture. The army mentioned in Revelation 9 is supernatural and will not be China or India. BUT, I will say that this video gets it right on Israel being a major signpost that Jesus is returning soon. He brought them back to the land and restored them to their rightful place because He, the King of Kings, will reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years before the final judgment.
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
People who survive the wrath will populate the earth during millennium
along with the Qahal YHWH.
reliinfo 1 month ago
2nd coming of Jesus is to prove - Jesus is not God , a man , a Prophet like Moses , Isaac , Jacob , Solomon , David , etc. No divine powers except special mu'jizat (miracles of prophets ) i.e walk on water , cure the lepers/blind , supplicate for manna / salwa from heaven , etc. For the Jews - to prove that he is not dead and to disapprove the false Messiah ( Mosech , the antiChrist ) . Your saviour is only Allah . Prophets are only to show mankind the way to Allah ( Elohim / Yahweh ) .
drascobiz1 3 months ago
..continuation - Prior to that the Dajjal's system would already be in place ( NWO ) Just to share - Jesus 2nd coming would be in Damascus ( the mosque with white minaret ) descending with 2 angels , wearing safron robes with beads of sweat on his forehead prior to dawn prayer . His complexion would be rosy white , straight hair central parting till shoulder level . After dawn prayer with Al Mahdi , he will kill Dajjal at the gate of Lud ( now , Lydia / near Ben Gurion airport in Israel ) .
drascobiz1 3 months ago
All souls will die , thus Enoch cannot be raptured . Jesus will eventually die after his 2nd coming . Raptured cannot be the truth because mankind need to complete their life cycle prior to the endtimes ( end of the world , not 2012 as many pundits put it ) . Tribulation period in Islam may last for '3 years' - 1st year - 1/3 rain will be witheld , 2nd year 2/3 of rain will be witheld and 3rd year all rain would be witheld . With conditions already difficult Dajjal (antiChrist) would appear
drascobiz1 3 months ago
@drascobiz1 all souls will die (quran) is incorrect, YHM is alive for evermore.(Re1:18).
Harvest is biblical: ! The 4:17, ! Cor 15:52, Ma 24:31, re 14 :15.
Damascus will be destroyed before the end of this world system.
Yeshua was the human form of YHM manifestation of Elohe YHWH.
and was not just a prophet, He was the redeemer and son of God.
reliinfo 3 months ago
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THERE WILL BE NO SECOND COMING OF ANY MESSENGER. THERE WILL BE NO JUDGEMENTDAY.
THIS IS SPOKEN AND EXPLAINED IN THE NEW MESSAGE FROM GOD TO HUMANITY. google: The burden of the messenger. A revelation of April 5th.2011.
NEWMESSAGE (.ORG) God's message can be heard as it was spoken, it is recorded and transcribed. It is a blessing to receive it.
worldwiderelease 4 months ago
There is no rapture.....Christ's kingdom comes after the tribulation. The dead in Christ will rise 1st and those that remain will be changed in the twinkling of an eye.
That is where we meet the lord in the air.
The Bible says we must endure till the end, many of us will lose our lives.
Thinking that you will be taken out of the way is a comfort thought.
The pretrib rapture did not exist before the 1800s and that is a FACT!
When all the pretribbers are left here waiting,many will lose faith
mockerofscoffers 4 months ago 2
@mockerofscoffers 1. Christians following away during trib. period is not Biblically possible (Matt. 24:24). 2. If the rapture happens post-trib. who will populate the Millennium. If dead in Christ rise first then those alive who will be left Can't be those who have taken mark for obvious reasons. Can't be Jewish remnant they will know the Lord by midway point of trib. period (Rev. 12:17). Your theory doesn't add up Biblically. Please place someone in the Millennium.
tmalone10 4 months ago
@tmalone10 The rapture is not Biblical. Noah was not raptured away from the earth.
There is no 3rd coming of Christ, he would have to come to rapture the saints pretrib and then come again to set up his kingdom, there is only one second. It says we meet the lord in the air, that does not mean we fly of anywhere else. Research when the rapture became doctrine in the church, it wasn't always. You can't just add something in because of interpretation.
mockerofscoffers 4 months ago
@mockerofscoffers stop scoffing and tell me who will populate the Millennium. Someone must. You can't throw the Millennium out just because it does not support the post-trib rapture theory. You should be able to go from the tribulation period right into the Millennium with humans to populate this time. Please do so and prove the post-trib. rapture is correct. If you can't it's simply not true.
tmalone10 4 months ago
@tmalone10 Those who survive the tribulation in Christ will be changed in the twinkling of an eye after the dead in Christ have risen also to their new bodies. Thessalonians 4:16 Corinthians 15:51.
These are the people to populate the Millennial new Jerusalem from where Christ will reign.
Now you please show me scriptures showing Jesus returning thrice???And also explain why the rapture did not exist in the early Church?
mockerofscoffers 4 months ago
@mockerofscoffers The rapture did exist during the early church. Se how easy it is to say that. Just because you say it doesn't exist doesn't make it so. If you want proof just go to the Pre-trib. research center. They have plenty of scholarly articles that date the pre-trib rapture back to the early church. Frankly, when the pre-trib. rapture was being taught has no baring on its authenticity. So I'm not going to dwell on that. There are plenty of research sites you can go to.
tmalone10 4 months ago
@mockerofscoffers when the rapture takes place, those raptured will receive new heavenly bodies. Those bodies will not be able to give birth (Mark 12:25). They will be incorruptible bodies (I Cor. 15:42). The fact that you did not know that tells me you are a new Christian. Thanks for your comments.
tmalone10 4 months ago
@tmalone10 You have not attempted to answer my questions on Jesus returning thrice?
Also there are many pastors who do not hold to the rapture doctrine, are they new Christians?
You presuppose far to much, Many Christians have suffered and been put to death since Christ for their faith.
But somehow the pretribbers think they are special and will escape all this.John 17:15(Jesus praying)
mockerofscoffers 4 months ago
@tmalone10 The great falling away will happen, and many of these numbers will be made up of those who put all their faith in the rapture, and when it does not happen and when things get really bad this will lead to apostasy of the Church. Christ makes it quite clear we must endure to the end.
Read Luke 17:26-27, 34-36 Mathew 13: 24-30. This states when Jesus comes he will destroy the wicked and those left are his. Jesus speaks of his Angels GATHERING OUT THE WICKED, not rapturing us.
mockerofscoffers 4 months ago
@mockerofscoffers Luke 17 actually proves the opposite of what you assert, the good will be taken out not the bad ones.
Ma 13 is a parable and not real prophecy and is surpassed by more accurate post gospel information.
reliinfo 3 months ago
@reliinfo I disagree Mathew 24: 37-38 , The coming of the son of man will be like in the days of Noah, this is stated crystal clear, the evil on the earth was destroyed and the only good( Noah and his family were preserved) Do you think Christ is going to rapture us only for the tribulation and then set us back down for his millenium? How shall the meek inherit the earth? I only say this so all are prepared to endure till the end so we may inherit the kingdom of god.
mockerofscoffers 3 months ago
@mockerofscoffers In the days of Noah they were lifted up from the earth in the ark and the earth and the people were destroyed. the harvest will take the believers out after the tribulation and than the wrath of YHWH will be released.
At the climax of the battles following armageddon YHM will return with the angels and all believers and defeated the
unbelievers and establish the millennium reign.than all earthly promises will be fulfilled,.
reliinfo 3 months ago
@reliinfo when does it state that Jesus will leave heaven, find them and read them in context!
tredezbull 2 months ago
@tredezbull Jude 14 and Revelation 19:11-21.
In the Harvest 1 The 4:17, Ma 24:31, 1 Cor 15:52 and Re 14:15 He doesn't com down (on earth)
reliinfo 2 months ago
@tredezbull Acts 3:16
tredezbull 2 months ago
@tredezbull correction; Acts 3:21 tells us that he'll stay in heaven till it's time to restore all things, to me it's just another verse that fits nicely with the rest of what the scripture clearly reveals regarding the end of days. I once came from a strong view point of the rapture being pre trib, so i know the verses and the arguements for and against. however, the pre trib view makes so many assumption and scenerios to try and push their case. I suggest you study the Greek meanings more
tredezbull 2 months ago
@tredezbull What Peter said in Acts was before the revelations concerning the
harvest in several Epistles & Revelation, actually first century believers expected
a one Event but all the information giving in the New Testament indicate that the
harvest is before the wrath and the Return on Earth at the climax of the wrath.
reliinfo 2 months ago
@reliinfo The Bible clearly states we must endure to the end, THE END not the beginning of the end. If we are raptured away who is Jesus talking about? The rapture is a false doctrine that is not biblical, it was created in 1830 by a 15 year old catholic girl called Margaret Mac who claimed she had a vision. Job,Paul, Joseph, king David, Daniel the list goes on, they all endured tribulation, but pretribbers think they have a free ticket.
mockerofscoffers 3 months ago
@mockerofscoffers Harvest is after tribulation, partial, pre. mid and post (one event) tribulation rapture theories are not biblical, the end and the last day is for the believers the day of the harvest and it is after trib pre-wrath. Therismos is in Re 14:15 referring to 1 Thes 4;17, 1 Cor 15:52, Ma 24:31.
Last day for unbelievers will be Judgment Day.
reliinfo 3 months ago
@mocker Theres a DISTINCTION between the Church and Israel. To suggest that the Church will remain on earth for the Trib CONFUSES the message of Daniel's 70th week, and causes the Church TO RECEIVE what was APPOINTED to ISRAEL.
In the 70th week (during the "trib") as prophesied in Zechariah 2/3's of Israel will NOT SURVIVE, but PERISH. A 1/3 of them will go through THE FIRE, REFINED like silver/gold, and will SAY that the Lord is God. It's NOT the Church who will be refined by that judgment!
DOO718 3 months ago
@DOO718 Distinctions between the gentile believes and Israel depend on scriptural context; both separatism and replacement theories limit the correct exegesis.
Harvest is after the tribulation and before the wrath of YHWH.
There is a lot of in-reading to justify pre-trib-rap theories.
reliinfo 3 months ago
@DOO718 I thought we were grafted into Isreal?why were we?. are'nt we the lampstand and Isreal the olive tree? who are the two witnessess? Also, how many resurrections will there be? and where are they mentioned in the bible? do you limit God's ability to protect. Answer with scriptural facts and without assumptions/scenarios thrown in, then buy a ticket to a country where Christians(the Church) are killed daily for their beliefs and tell them (the Church) wont face the tribulation period.
tredezbull 2 months ago
@mockerofscoffers..the pretrib is biblical. The faithful church Rev 3:10 He said He would keep us from the hour of trial which comes upon the whole world later it says the 10 kings rule with Antichrist for an hour we know it's that 7 yr period. Rev 5:9 "redeemed us to God by Your blood" is being sang by who? before the Trib. Not by the angels! 1st Thess 5:9 "For God did not appoint us to wrath"
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@ButteWhat please read Revelation 3:10 in the proper context. This was in the midst of letters to the 7 churches, which are also prophetic representations of the 7 time periods in the church from Christ's crucifixion to His return. If you're going to pick this verse which was addressed to one of the churches as applying to the end times church, then all of the verses apply. Including this:
So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth- Rev 3:16
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@ButteWhat also, on what grounds do you say Rev 3:10 applies to the last days only? Because from the days of the early church up until the antichrist comes to power, believers have been persecuted, tortured, burned alive, drawn and quartered, and have had every other horrible fate happen to them. There is zero indication that Revelation 3:10 is written exclusively to the last days church, or that it's interpretation is that He's going to snatch them out of earth before the great tribulation.
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@JohnnyDoe1012..believe it's referring to the Tribulation because it refers to the "whole world" and a specific time "hour of trial" which it also says the 10 kings rule w/Antichrist for that long(Rev 17:12). Revelation was a future looking book, 1st Cor 10:11 says the things written were to warn us"! The word WRATH means anger/chastisement which describes the Tribulation..God trying to get people to repent, church aged believers already have repented and are not appointed to God's wrath!
ButteWhat 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat --"church aged believers already have repented and are not appointed to God's wrath!"--
again, I already said and agree that believers are not subject to God's wrath because we are under the blood of Christ. It is the wrath of the BEAST that believers in the last days will be under, for a very short time.
Please read Revelation chapter 17 in its entirety. There is nothing in there talking about Jesus' 1st return out of 2. He is only returning once.
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
@JohnnyDoe1012..1st Thessalonians 4 clearly is a seperate occurence being caught up in the clouds. and returning to earth in Revelation. Look at Revelation 7:13 if all Christians were in the Tribulation why would John ask "...Who are these...?" If there were not believers already in heaven why would he have to ask that? 2nd Thess also indicates that the holy spirit who indwells/seals believers has to be taken out of the way before Antichrist can come on the scene...it makes sense.
ButteWhat 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat regarding Rev 7:13, read verse 14!! It says these are the believers who came out of the great tribulation, which pre-tribbers say we won't be around for!
If 2 Thess. 2 says the Holy Spirit is taken from the earth (but doesn't mention the Spirit, only 'the restrainer'), then how is it that people get saved during the Tribulation? If pre-trib is true, then there are no more believers on earth at the rapture. John 3:3-5 says it is the Spirit who draws us to Christ. Does NOT make sense
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat please please please read your Bible in its entirety and stop picking and choosing which verses to read. You can cherry-pick any number of verses in Scripture, take them out of context, and make them say what you want them to. This is how false doctrine is created and propagated.
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat and let me just add to my latest couple of comments that I would gladly be wrong on this. If pre-trib is true and I get out of this awful world quicker than I think, then I'm all for it. But I can no longer believe in this doctrine the more I read and study the Word.
JohnnyDoe1012 2 weeks ago
@ButteWhat now, regarding 1 Thess 5:9, the wrath mentioned in this verse is talking about the wrath of God taken out on sinners in Hell. A different wrath- the wrath of the beast will, for a time, be taken out on believers during the great tribulation: It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.-- Revelation 13:7
The wrath of God is taken out on the world, and not on His people. (see Revelation chapter 9, for example, especially verses 1-6)
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@tmalone10 you use Matthew 24:24 as evidence saying believers can't fall away at this time, but it's neither supporting nor disproving your statement.
--For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.-- Matt 24:24
As for your question about who will populate the earth during the millenium, see Zechariah 14:16-21, as it gives a prophetic image of the aftermath of the battle at Meggido (Revelation 16:16, 19:11-21).
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@tmalone10 don't count on the Lord to come back before everything gets too dicey here. He is indeed returning, but look at 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The pre-trib rapture position says it will happen secretly, with folks not realizing until they see piles of clothes where believers were before they were raptured. But look at verse 16:
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first."
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@tmalone10 "with the voice of an archangel"? "With the trumpet of God"? How does that fit in with a secret snatching away of people unbeknownst to the rest of the world? No, when Jesus comes back He's going to take His people home, and there will be blood that spills as prophesied in Revelation 19, and the unsaved tribes of the earth will mourn when they see Him (Matthew 24:29-31). Survivors of the aftermath will be around to populate the earth for the millenium. (Zechariah 14)
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@tmalone10 see Matthew 24:12-13
--And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.--
He who endures to the END shall be saved. Why wouldn't Jesus have said 'hold on until I come back the 2nd time, which is before I come back the 3rd time'?
JohnnyDoe1012 3 weeks ago
@mockerofscoffers If you believe in the Lord's all-sufficient work on the cross, then you know that the Church has to be protected from the End Times judgments, NOT purified by them.
You first have to understand the PURPOSE of the tribulation, and the purpose of the rapture:
DON'T CONFUSE ISRAEL AND THE CHURCH!
DOO718 3 months ago
@mockerofscoffers No man knows the day or hour of the coming of the Son of Man (Mat. 24:36) but Jesus gave us the events to watch for that show His coming is near (v33). The critical event every believer should be ready for is the invasion of Jerusalem by the Antichrist in Mat. 24:15, the bride isn't taken up at His coming til v30!
paulbortolazzo 3 months ago
Actually the timing of a pre, mid, or post tribulation resurrection (rapture) of the elect aren't taught in scripture. According to Jesus, His coming will come after the sun moon and stars go out (6th seal) (Mat. 24:29, Rev 6:12-14) sometime after the middle of the seven years (70th week of Daniel) (Dan. 9:27, Mat. 24:15) no man knows the exact day or hour (Mat. 24:36)
paulbortolazzo 3 months ago
@mockerofscoffers.... if thats true, who will repopulate the earth during the millenial reign?..After all satan is loosed for a short time to attempt a final deception of mankind at the end of the 1000 yrs...and why does Jesus remind believers to be ready at any moment for his return?
usmclukie 1 month ago
Matthew 13: 36-42 READ IT!! Please lemme know what you think. it seems to me that the only "rapture" will be of evil things on earth. If u believe that u are left behind then it will crush your determination.
creamiercorn 5 months ago
@creamiercorn not sure what your point is. Please explain
tmalone10 5 months ago
You have to read the parable of wheat and the tare. then read Matthew 13 36-42. it explains that the tare are the wicked ones that are harvested at the end of the world and thrown into fire. mthw 13: 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; So... the rapture will be of evil ones... i think
creamiercorn 5 months ago
@creamiercorn I wasn't sure what you were referring to. If that's what you believe, than you're welcome to believe it. It's not a salvation issue and it's not going to keep you out of heaven. If you know the Lord as Savior that's what matters.
tmalone10 5 months ago
@creamiercorn The parable you are speaking of is the Second Coming of Christ where his feet will touch the Mount of Olives. He will descend to Earth with a mighty army and will reap the earth of the wicked (tares) and they will be cast into fire. This is when the Anti-Christ and false prophet will be cast into the fire, at the end of the tribulation. He will then gather his remaining faithful (those who survived the tribulation) and the millenium kingdom will be set-up.
jmolynn2 5 months ago
(continued) The rapture of believers is before the tribulation begins. Jesus comes in the clouds with the shout of the angel, the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we that are alive and remain will be changed and be with the Lord forever. In this instance Jesus is in the clouds, he doesn't touch the ground and the dead in Christ and the living believers are raptured. If you look at the Jewish wedding feast, a pre-trib fits perfectly.
jmolynn2 5 months ago
@tmalone10 the rapture and the second coming are two separate events. the removal of the tares is at the end of the tribulation , and separates them from the surviving tribulation saints, seven years after the church is taken at the rapture.
hiodr 5 months ago
@hiodr Amen! Come Lord Jesus Come!!!
jmolynn2 5 months ago
@creamiercorn Matthew is a book for the Jewish people, not the Church.
SMessinger74 4 months ago
@SMessinger74 Matthew for the Jews, Mark for the gentiles, Luke for the learned, John for the believers:
We are all yehudim in YHM now, We were all gentiles, we're all learned as well as unlearned, we are believers now.
reliinfo 4 months ago
@creamiercorn
Correct. There will not be a rapture.
There will however, be a gathering. Start with Genesis 49:10
Shiloh is Christ. He will be born again just like before.
Only this time from the line of Joseph.
He will be here on earth in secret, like a thief casing the joint before He takes His treasure from Satan.
He will step forward and let the world know who He is when we need Him most.
themanningsjdsjjj 4 months ago
Im sorry, no pre-trib rapture, the tares are pulled up BEFORE the wheat. Matt 13:30 13:50
spekgirl1 5 months ago
@spekgirl1 Ma 13:30; bind them in bundles to be burned, v 50; and throw them in the furnace of fire. WHEN?
Re 20:11-15, after the Millennium, after the return on earth, after the harvest.
reliinfo 5 months ago
@spekgirl1 The parable you are speaking of is the Second Coming of Christ where his feet will touch the Mount of Olives. He will descend to Earth with a mighty army and will reap the earth of the wicked (tares) and they will be cast into fire. This is when the Anti-Christ and false prophet will be cast into the fire, at the end of the tribulation. He will then gather his remaining faithful (those who survived the tribulation) and the millenium kingdom will be set-up
jmolynn2 5 months ago
(continued) The rapture of believers is before the tribulation begins. Jesus comes in the clouds with the shout of the angel, the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first and then we that are alive and remain will be changed and be with the Lord forever. In this instance Jesus is in the clouds, he doesn't touch the ground and the dead in Christ and the living believers are raptured. If you look at the Jewish wedding feast, a pre-trib fits perfectly.
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@jmolynn2 Actually the harvest (Ma 24:29)is after the tribulation for believers (mid-period) and before the wrath of YHWH, which ends with the return of YHM on earth.
reliinfo 5 months ago
@spekgirl1 Well if you're right, then I sure hope I freaking DIE before Tribulations then! Most of the best preachers of The Bible are "pre-trib." Why do people have different points of view about the timing? Since we are obviously heading straight on into SOMETHING which will lead to the New World Order... it sure would be nice to have the undisputable belief that we wont BE here then!
recyclecongress 5 months ago
@recyclecongress have you watched my series of videos on pre-trib vs 7th trump vs post-trib rapture? Go to my video section and see how I positively prove that a pre-tribulation rapture is the only rapture that is possible. Just saying there will be no pre-trib. rapture is a whole lot easier than proving it. I make that abundantly clear through these videos.
tmalone10 5 months ago
@tmalone10 There are over 30 biblical texts that are suppose to cover the pre-trib-rap theory, unfortunately they don't!
We have been through all of them with Rapture Ready and and other pro pre-trib sites.
Calvary also uses the same stuff to make the point, but it is actually in-reading, pre,mid, post (one event, u-turn) tribs and partial rap are not biblical. Only after tribulation and pre-wrath Harvest and the (later on) return on earth of YHM
is most scriptural.
reliinfo 5 months ago
1:23 most likely China, India could be coming with them? Really now? And what made you think that? Tensions between China and India are huge especially as China allies more with Pakistan, and India is getting more and more friendly with the western world/the States. Why would they suddenly switch sides? If anything they would be against that big army.
tipoomaster 5 months ago 3
@tipoomaster
The world may be tricked into war against Israel because of Nibiru coming. Nibiru or wormwood. As above, so below. Evil potentates come in the form of the wayward Nibiru system which in its long cycle Passover had caused worldwide desolation, despair and destructions of past civilizations. The possibility of an extinction level event is very real indeed because Global Elites needs worldwide war situation to declare Martial Law to cover their own exit to limited underground bunkers
CardinalSinga 5 months ago
Every day after work I sit outside and see the signs in the clouds. Were so close to his return the earth can't take it, The earth will start to move and the storms will increase. The wind from the storm will blow over the whole earth and the thunder will be heard. From the thunder will come the trumpet and from those clouds we will all see Jesus in the sky, Be ready and know him well. ask for forgivness of your sins and be ready for he comes quickly. God bless.....
IrishmanNH 5 months ago
how bad the world is because of the rejection of god the the commandments....the amount of killings,robberies,lying,lust....and people caring only of themselves due to the love of money....people love money more than god,families so forth...after saying dont love anything more than him...world is a bad place because of peoples rejection of him.....not because of god
benchpre 6 months ago
were to have athority along with the man in the family, then you would have two heads leading the one body which physically looks like a freak.....you dont know the bible because of your ignorance....if christians lived by the bible (ten commandments) the place would be haeven on earth,,''thou shall not steal,lie,murder, commit adultery,honor you mam & dad,dont have any other gods before me etc.....people love money more than....the bible doesnt say money is evil...its says the LOVE of money
benchpre 6 months ago
im a christian because i got the holy spirit wen i was 14...bin on this road ever since....how do know gods an asshole...he's like any other person..you cant know all about someone if you never spend time with them...of course there's alot of bad stuff in the bible because of what man chose when god cant effect free will....women not allowed to have athority over men.....i taught was good rule...a family having one parent the male to take the lead....as a family is like a body.....if the women
benchpre 6 months ago
nice vid whats the song called. the war of armagedon theyre going to attack israel for theyre oil people great video once again and that god have mercy on the unbelievers
wuanizzle 6 months ago
@wuanizzle Enigma - Gravity Of Love
tmalone10 6 months ago
blowing themselves up..? women in the islamic faith cannot drive, have a job,if you steal you get your hands chopped off....thats not a loving god..thats lunatics idea of running things...one question...how can you ever recieve anything from god.....since you live in doubt and disbelief.....which is the exact oppisite of what it takes to please god...which is faith.....hebrews 11:6''without FAITH its IMPOSSIBLE to please god.....answer that
benchpre 6 months ago
@benchpre The type of Muslims you are describing are the terrorists who try to live by the Qur'an exactly. If Christians lived by the Buybull exactly, they'd be just as bad. You don't know this because of your ignorance, but there was a time when it was the Christians who were the terrorists. Why do you think you're a Christian now? It's because your ancestors were forced into it. Fortunately, most Christians today do not follow the Buybull. There is so much you don't know.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
you can.....he doesnt ignore you...it happened 3 weeks after i asked that question and at the age of 14 like every other kid i know what taughts look like.....this was different....you dont believe me thats your choice...islam is wrong...allah is a false god....those are the words of muslims who converted from islam to christianity....ex muslim says and i quote''allah is a gangster''....a god of hatred creating the world..? creating life then using his fanatic followers to destroy it by way of
benchpre 6 months ago
no......of course i have taugts all the time...this was completely different..thats wat im saying.....when i seen those words i knew it was from god..as they werent taugts...it was a word from god.....its not an overactive imagination...it was a real answer..! as someone who doesnt believe in god when the rapture happens what will you be thinking
benchpre 6 months ago
whole being...you hear the word crystel clear...and the very words you hear...is the answer to the question you asked god so many days ago''.....the word i heard that morning were..''dont keep praying you'll end up doubting'' those words were the answer to the question i asked god about 3 week before getting the answer...the question was'' why do i have to keep on praying...it wasnt all in my head if he experienced the same thing
benchpre 6 months ago
dollar....it was now 6:40 and im thinking ''its 10 minutes into the programme but what the hell i'll put it on...i then pressed select on the remote...the programme came on.....i then looked at title of the message it said..''hearing from god'...then i listened to his preaching...he said...''all of a sudden your driving down the road and you come to a red light district...then while your waiting for the red light to go green all of a sudden a word drops inside your heart...it penetrates your
benchpre 6 months ago
@benchpre Yeah; and you bought that crap. These guys on TV are professional brainwashers. That's what they do.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
no it wasnt taughts friend as it happened when i was 14...meaning every decision you make from the time you have the ability to think onwards...is made from the head thinking taughts and planning your way....in other words those words that dropped inside werent taughts....i knew what taughts looked like that age...this was completely different.......about 7 years later i was out of the house doin stuff at 5pm...i arrived home at 6:30pm..put on the god channel and was about to turn on creflo
benchpre 6 months ago
@benchpre Are you suggesting that you don't have thoughts when you're 14? They were nothing more than thoughts, but you don't want that. You want proof that your god is real because you are doubting him, but you don't want to doubt. You are making something so simple MUCH more than what it is.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
is i want......3 weeks later i got the answer while chatting with my friend at his kitchen table....the words dropped inside me i heard the words..''dont keep praying you'll end up doubting''.....what my point...you cant answer a question someone asked you if you dont exist...!! i cant wait for the rapture..it'll prove every unbeliever to be wrong..!
benchpre 6 months ago
@benchpre You are correct. Someone can't answer a question if they' don't exist. The problem with your scenario however is that you do not know if it was God who answered you. In fact; the most likely possibility is that you just thought of the answer and you unwisely attributed it to God. Thoughts come to us all the time, and it has nothing to do with gods or fairies magically giving us the answers. There is no God, and you still don't have evidence for him.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
i do evanglism all the time.....the amount of athiests out there that tell me im away with the fairies believing in god is unbelievable....but jesus did say the world of people who dont know him will hate christians...because they follow what athiests claim to be imaginary...but when the rature happens VERY VERY SOON what will they say...they'll have no excuse...i pity them....i asked god questuion when i was 14..i said ''lord why do i have to keep on praying until i get the answer for what it
benchpre 6 months ago
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icreamCones 6 months ago
God created nature, but nature is not our God. Science is another creation of God but science is not our God.
SarahLynnheartsyou 6 months ago
@AragonKingofmacedon I can bad mouth "God's word" all I want. He's not real and the Buybull shows him to be evil.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
Rapture: Jesus comes as a thief in the night (quietly, suddenly, quickly)...2nd Coming: Jesus comes in Great Power & Glory and EVERY eye will see Him...Rapture: Jesus comes when we LEAST expect Him...2nd Coming: 100# hailstones, all water turns to blood, boils from the sun, all greenery burned up, all mountains & islands disappear, everything in the oceans die, massive starvation, nuclear war & a satanic madman & his followers are trying to cut people's heads off & they still REFUSE to REPENT
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
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Everyone, those people in Isreal are not the biblical jews, stop being decieved, they are all the descendants from Ashkenaz from Noah's son Japeth, The true Isrealites from the bible come from the son of Shem (shemetic People) pick up a bible and actually read it. Gen. 10:3 Askenaz is from Japeth-They even call themselves Ashkanazi Jews. Get a hint, They even know they are not the Jews of the bible, Thus prophecy will not be fullfilled through them. Read Rev 2:9 & 3:9. Don't be decieved!!!
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MrPoophead1000 7 months ago
YHM knew in Acts 1:7 but did not tell (in the human nature He did not know),
He gave more details to Paul and John.
"Tribulation period" is only half for believers (actually; after tribulation and pre-wrath) and entirely (wrath of YHWH) for non-believers.
To be more precise; pre, mid and (total)post trib and partial raptures theories
are les biblical than (after believers tribulation, mid-period) pre-wrath harvest.
reliinfo 7 months ago
To see when the final 7 year tribulation will most likely occur...
Study this: Matt 24:36 and Mark 13:32
Look closely within these scriptures and ye shall find.
To see a little more!
Download "The Square Roots Compilation" from our channel.
And be blessed in Yahshuah our Lord.
utwpublishing 7 months ago
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Colloquium2011 7 months ago
Repent, be batized in Jesus name, of the water (full emersion) and the spirit, evidence of such as given in speaken in other tongues.
GTCism 7 months ago
Every time US pressures Israel for Peace, US is facing some kind of Disasters.
watch?v=fe7JYHRWj64
US should keep away itself in this matter, before it(US) gets completely destroyed. Israel is always ready for Peace but not the neighbors of Israel. they don't want the existence of Israel and it's people.
yeshuathenazarene 7 months ago
14 reasons why God is evil here:
pmcc4thwatchtruth . org/pages/web/salvation . shtml
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
We dont long for the destruction of nonbelievers. We long to b w/ Christ nd c Him restore His world to the way He intended it to be. God said He wishes that NONE would perish. U must stop thinking u have all the answers nd rely on Jesus thru faith. Ive never seen God but Ive seen His work in my life. He's waiting for u to let Him do the same for u. I kno it sounds insane bt Im just like u. A sinner needing forgiveness. Who am I to challenge God? What does it take from me to give my life to Him?
icy094 8 months ago
@icy094 He's not real though.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
Thumbs up if you think Skin1face is a total fag.
KillSwitchKing1 8 months ago
atheists are the stuidist fucking things that has ever happened to this world. god, why are they so fucking difficult?
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face my bro or sis in Christ I understand your frustration but Jesus wouldnt want us to talk like this. Some atheists will find Christ and some won't and those who don't will be left here. This saddens me greatly but we can't make people believe. Take the gospel to those who will appreciate it and as the Scripture says do not cast your pearls before swine. I know I'm gonna get slammed for saying all of this but I don't care because the Lord always proves Himself true in His time :)
icy094 8 months ago
@icy094 thanks man:) hopefully after the rapture happens everyone left on earth will hopefully repent and be saved. not very many will be saved though.
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face We're so difficult because we actually think. Someone tells you a fairystory & you drop to your knees & worship whatever god you're told to. When someone tells US that a god loves us so much that he murdered his son so that we wouldn't go to a place of eternal torture that he made for us, we first ask ourselves, "does this make any sense?". The answer for anyone who thinks is "no". Then, we ask the next question, "Are Christians insane?" The answer is yes. There's no God.
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nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 a terrible and false message? please, do explain yourself.
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face There will never be a Rapture because it's just part of a horrible and evil religious fantasy. Hope that clears things up.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 i hope you know that god is VERY dissappointed in you. and the only way to get to heaven is through jesus, by believing in him. and not sinning. hope that clears things up. heaven is a take it or leave it option. if you dont believe in jesus, you wont go to heaven. so when you die, youll go to hell.
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face What you say would only mean something if your Heaven and this Jesus guy were actually real. Since they're not, I have nothing to worry about. To tell you the truth; you're god is evil, and I'm glad he's not real. If he was real though, I would cut his head off and mount it on my wall. It'll act as a trophy for killing the most evil being in the history of the universe.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 I know it sounds crazy but have you considered giving it a chance? I know you hear a ton of fanaticism but thats not what this is about. I beg you to at least understand in full what the rapture is about nd why we believe in it. It's not horrible for we who believe. God sent His son here to pay for everything you and I have done against Him so that when he judges sin, we can be spared. All you have to do is believe it by humility and faith. If u choose not to, I wont bother u.
icy094 8 months ago
@icy094 I have studied the Rapture, and have concluded that it is only a fairytale story; nothing more. There is no evidence for it, and if it really was to happen, it would be more proof that God is evil. I didn't do anything against God and Jesus that would make me deserve Hell. Further more, faith is a terrible method of believing anything, especially something as big as God and the Rapture. Science is the only way.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 wow. listen to me. you damn well dont deserve to go to heaven, neither do i, neither does any person on earth. we all deserve to go to hell when we die. THANKFULLY god loves us so much he is giving us this gift of eternal life in heaven if we choose to believe in him and accept christ as our lord and savior. if you have sinned ONCE ever, you deserve to go to hell. we all have sinned more than once. so when the rapture happens i hope you are saved as well as the rest of us
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face I deserve to go to a place that's at least like Heaven. I certainly don't deserve Hell. No one deserves Hell. If God is willing to send anyone to Hell, especially because of a few sins, and because we don't believe in him, then that just makes him evil, and perhaps makes him the only being in the world who deserves to go to Hell. If I ever met God, I'd like to throw him into Hell myself. Fortunately, there is no Hell and no rapture. Fairy stories!
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR FUCKING SAYING!!!! thats exactly the reason your going to hell. im seriously done talking to you about this. god fucking made hell for satin and the angels that chose satins side, not for us. god made heaven for all of us, anyone who believes in him goes to heaven. he doesnt send ANYONE to hell. you choose your own fate, and by not believing in him, you are choosing hell. fairy storys my fucking ass
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face God would send someone to Hell for not believing in him? So you admit that he's evil. Good thing it's only a fairy story.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 enjoy hell.
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face How can I if it isn't real?
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 listen to how evil god is, we were all supposed to go to hell when we died because hell is the punishment for commiting sin, since everyone sins, we were all supposed to go to hell. god loved us so much that he sent his OWN son to do die for our sins, because jesus died for us we are now able to pray and be forgiven for our sins, we now have the chance to go to heaven. yeah, what an "evil" god
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face The fact that we were supposed to go to Hell for committing sin is the first point that shows God is evil. The fact that he sent his OWN son to die is another reason he is evil. Two reasons right there why God is evil. Yeah, he is an EXTREMELY evil god.
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nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 keep on talking all that shit, we all know where your going when you die. if you see god wanting everyone to go to heaven as him being evil, then your FUCKING stupid. when you die you WILL go to hell, you will not see any of your friends or family, you will burn forever and ever, all of eternity, i have tried to show you the way to salvation, you are not excepting gods gift of eternal life, so i am not preaching him to you anymore. i know he's happy that i tried to save you.
skin1face 8 months ago
@skin1face You can't know where I'm going because you lack the evidence to confirm it. The fact that you see God in this way only shows how brainwashed you are. God created a place of eternal suffering. That's evil. If he doesn't want to send anyone there, he shouldn't. It's as simple as that. If he's willing to send anyone there for not believing in him, then it cannot be disputed that he is absolutely evil. He is "saving" us from something he created in the first place. Evil.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@skin1face "when you die you WILL go to hell, you will not see any of your friends or family, you will burn forever and ever, all of eternity"
See; even YOU admit that he's evil.
And salvation is not a gift when HE's the one who's sending you to Hell in the first place. Lol.
"i know he's happy that i tried to save you."
But he's not even real. Lol.
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 I do know that Jesus said there will be more people in HELL - THE LAKE OF FIRE - than in Heaven. You will probably be one of them. So Sad. You REJECT Jesus Christ, Hell is your final destinatoin. It's for all eternity, everlasting fire, pain suffering, weeping, wailing & gnashing of teeth, where the fire is NEVER quenched. It's your choice. All who love the Lord will live WITH Him in Heaven, then rule & reign WITH Him in His Kingdom on Earth. Oh yes, He IS real.
JesusHoldMyHand1 8 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Everlasting fire? Pain and Suffering? Gnashing of teeth? Lol. Does this sound like anyone that I'd want to "love"? Think about it. Your god is evil. Lol. Good thing he's not real!
nickmorrison1100 8 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 It's "either" "or". Like I said, it's your choice.
JesusHoldMyHand1 8 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 And it's your choice to worship an evil god who would put anyone in a place of everlasting fire, pain and suffering, and gnashing of teeth. He's evil. You're choosing to worship an evil god that doesn't even exist.
Lol.
nickmorrison1100 7 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 I don't know why you hate God so much. The EVIL one is satan. He's the FATHER of all lies, murders, adulteries, homosexuality, pedophiles, stealing, etc. Just a word of warning for you, "But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for EVERY careless word they have spoken..." Matthew 12:36 You may one day be very sorry for the One that gives you breath every day, food, water, clothing, job, money to pay your bills. You don't appreciate it.
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 I hate God because he is the FATHER of all lies, murders, adulteries, pedophiles, stealing, etc. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but because God hates that too, he is evil. Just a word of warning for you: Stop believing in this bullshit. It's just a sick twisted fairytale that has turned you into a mindless bigot. Repent and leave the Christian lifestyle.
nickmorrison1100 7 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 God says homosexuality is "detestable" "an abomination"...If He had wanted Adam & Steve to be together, He would not have made Eve. Satan will do ALL he can to warp, twist & smother people's minds & brains with lies that will lead them to HELL. See, now I know what the problem is. I pray that you'll reconsider what you have said. Jesus WILL forgive you. You hate God because of YOUR sin. You should HATE satan, the one who tempted you & you accepted his lies.
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 God hates homosexuality because he is evil. I could care less what God wants, whether it's Adam & Steve, or Mike & Frank. It doesn't matter what he says becuase he has no authority & his words have no value. God means as much to the world as a turdlet floating on toilet water. See; this proves that God is evil. Only evil persons hate love. Love is the most important thing in this world, & you worship a god that does all he can to prevent love.
nickmorrison1100 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Jesus might forgive me, but he needs to ask me for forgiveness first. Satan's a bitch too, but even he's a LOT better than that evil bastard God. Other than a toilet, I can't think of any good use God would have in this world. At least Satan's not as evil as God. He's got really cool horns though. Lol.
nickmorrison1100 7 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 He also likes to dress like a gay clown meets KISS. Totally gross, you don't want to ever be able to see him, trust me. GOD and Jesus way better!!!!!!
Gonegoodforever 7 months ago
@Gonegoodforever Nah; I'd still rather go with Satan. I'll put up with the gayness as long as he's got a clown act. Who doesn't like clowns?
nickmorrison1100 7 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 what?
jnthnnixon 6 months ago
@jnthnnixon He said that Satan likes to dress like a gay clown, which is cool with me. I'd rather be with Satan than God who is much more evil.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 Ok...Jesus spoke in many parables.GAY...stands for happy.Dress as a gay clown.clown is an actor.The devil loves to fool people by acting as though he is good.so The devil is a happy actor for good when in reality is going to rob kill and destroy in the end.
jnthnnixon 6 months ago
@jnthnnixon Yes; Jesus spoke in parables. So what? Gay was not being used here to mean happy. The Devil is evil, but he is far less evil than God. Rob, kill, and destroy? That's all God does. Lol.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 Jesus would never had said gay to mean homosexual.
jnthnnixon 6 months ago
@jnthnnixon I don't believe Jesus talked about gays or homosexuals at all. I'm not sure where you're going with this.
nickmorrison1100 6 months ago
@nickmorrison1100 I thought you were saying that Jesus talked about the devil dresses like a gay clown.sorry.
jnthnnixon 6 months ago