I don't see police brutality...I just see a bunch of instigators hiding behind sheilds throwing baseball sized rocks. Then, at the end when 10 cops run up 100 pussies drop sheilds and signs and book it. Occupy my fist.
@usd2bargr ahahhahahahahah! you think your sissy-ass little momma's boy teachers-pet faggot comments are gonna stop this? you need to watch this video again 100 times in a row & tell me you & your little faggot lick the system's asshole comments are gonna do jack shit. you're just a little fucking mama's girl. shut the fuck up you brainwashed kiss-ass. NOTHING WILL STOP THIS MOVEMENT. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR FAKE "OCCUPY FIST" BULLSHIT. you little fairy-faggot who couldn't hurt a fly.
I support OWS 100%. Keep up the good fight! The system is built against us and it's time we fight for what's right. The rich got bailed out, everyone else got sold out. I will attend as many OWS events as soon as it gets warm out here in NYC. OWS will be back in full force in the spring and summer, I can promise you that!!!!!!!!!
@KingDanny9 Good. While you stand in some street doing nothing with your life, I will be earning money with engineering degree. How exactly is the "system" built against you. I couldn;t afford to go to college. But I worked hard in high school and got an academic scholarship to an affordable college. I worked and payed for all of college myself, without any loans. Now, I got a great job that I really enjoy. Honestly, its not that hard if you put in some effort.
what is funny as these people are being targeted as terrorist, terrorist do not tell you when they are coming lol, you are pathetic to think this is good vs evil, it is practical vs moronic.
They are turning this into a war. People, please hear the voice of reason. Violence is NEVER the way to fix things. NO peace can be sustained through violence.
@NRAdude practically(free for everyone)educating the public would serve as a better positive momentum,free education means free technology to everyone for everything,what we have now is the educated(or so posted on a piece of paper)owning everything(including educational and research facilities)Our infrastructure would be booming we would have a hard time finding jobs for the qualified instead of the unqualifiedThe police are a joke,if we wanted to be terrorist we wouldn't announce it
@NRAdude corporations remove responsibility from the individual, try doing that as a private businessman. try claiming bankruptcy and no one knows it, it's a big list but i don't want capitalism either so why waste my time.
@PitBullsBiteHard Quite a passionate assertion you have here. But who/what are corporations made of? People? And you cannot think of one Socialist society where there was an equal sharing of misery? And are you saying that Communism depends on your nationality rather than your socioeconomic system?
@NRAdude ni ican't think of even one, do you know what everyone means or do you think it is everyone that is not important that counts as everyone. and i care nothing for nationality or race or religion. Everyone means from the celebs to the dictator the cops exe..... everyone look it up man.
@PitBullsBiteHard I have many times before. So tell me, you say that true communism/socialism is economic equality for everyone? Karl Marx says specically that communims/socialism does not work without "central planning" to coerce the elites and coordinate efforts. Doesn't this "central planning" imply it has more power/resources than everyone else? Thus, socialism by its own founder creates economic inequality but aims at equality at the same time?
@NRAdude and there has never been a socialist society where EVERYONE was equal, in pay, respect, importance privileges. and before you give me a history lesson remind me of what the word everyone means first.
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its absolutely ridiculous that the attempt to maintain order is considered police brutality... the police are there to protect the rest of us from mobs like this one... of course people are gonna get hurt wen the fail to comply with police directives, and in this case the police were perfectly reasonable... if u want real police brutality, u cud take a look at china...the chinese probably find it childish that we consider this police brutality in the US
@BFH94556 This is the same mob that broke store windows and robbed shops. I saw a video of OWS Oakland protestors breaking the windows of a Foot Locker, only to rob it. There was murders at OWS Oakland. The Police have every right to disperse this mob
@nos97 the greeks are pussies they got money from european banks to pay for extravegant benefits, and now they cry like little bitches because someone has to pay for it,the greeks are even bigger losers than the occupy movement
The loser protesters should be thanking the police for working and paying taxes which they undoubtedbly benefit from through social programs. You know who doesn't like the police? Criminals..so why the hell do we care what criminals think?
wow, you'd think COPS were RECRUITED the way these Cowardly Swine MISBEHAVE. and to ALL you UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORTERS of this 1st WORLD Insanity, you'll soon be singing a Different tune when these SAME GUNS are aimed @ you. PIGS INCLUDED...Your no BETTER than 3rd WORLD SCUM your just BETTER "FED". Pun Intended. SIMPS....XD
WELL GEE I WONDER WHY THE POLICE ARE DOING THAT, IS IT BECAUSE THE STUPID LOW LIFE HIPPIES THAT CAN'T GET A JOB ARE TOSSING ROCKS AT THEM? NAHHHH IT'S BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Report: Occupy protester - recently tazed in time square for 'disorderly conduct' - after the incident the man had a seizure, and was then refused medical treatment.
Help me report what's been happening for the movement.
Alright go lie down in the middle of the street while we video the police doing their job and everyone crowd around him and blame the cops for our actions. That'll show 'em
"You love people not for what you do for them or what they do for you, you love them for their values, their virtues, which they achieved in their own character. You don't love causelessly, you don't love everybody indiscriminately, you love only those who deserve it." -- Ayn Rand
@RonaldPaulstein i have to agree with you, ur absolutely right ,these jobless fools have to go ruin a city cause of being jealous of the richer class, well im glad i live in a pretty wealthy political and police family
@CryptWarrior69 They are confused. They want "Socialism" in the U.S.A. but fail to understand that Capitalism and the free market can and does benefit them more than any Socialist economy ever could. Less government regulation of private business is better than more, it is that regulation itself which creates all the problems and the imbalance of power.
the middle east is getting pretty bad. wow u americans have the nerve to judge other countries , look at your own. America has the right to free spe... o i forgot no talking back, so move like sheep and let your gov. run your lives.
"You love people not for what you do for them or what they do for you, you love them for their values, their virtues, which they achieved in their own character. You don't love causelessly, you don't love everybody indiscriminately, you love only those who deserve it." -- Ayn Rand
"I say that man is entitled to his own happiness and that he must achieve it himself, but that he cannot demand that others giveup their lives to make him happy. And nor should he wish to sacrafice himself for the happiness of others, I hold that man should have self-esteem." -- Ayn Rand
@HomeJizz Um... no? Her name is (was) "Ayn Rand" and she was an author and philosopher. Her two most famous novels are "The Fountainhead" and "Atlas Shrugged."
"I say that man is entitled to his own happiness and that he must achieve it himself, but that he cannot demand that others give up their lives to make him happy. And nor should he wish to sacrafice himself for the happiness of others, I hold that man should have self-esteem." -- Ayn Rand
The only person who is to blame for why your life is not exactly the way you would like it to be is yourself.
@Evenwas616 lol, whatever TROLLBOY. by the way why are you still commenting over a week later nonstop? oh yeah, because you get paid to. I said it before, and I will say it again, get a real job, sad little troll.
@HomeJizz Only an idiot or some college kid with an ego the size of an airplane would fit your personality, i already have a job, by the way, I could go on and on on how you are wrong and how you were the worst thing to happen to your mother, but that would consume all of MY time. No i don't get paid for putting small comments on Youtube for such an unimportant subject.
@HomeJizz You want the truth? I talk to people like you for my amusement, just to get a few good laughs out of you, then i tell you what you don't want to hear nor believe, so afterwards i keep laughing at the stupidity, not many people have given me legitimate reasons that defend their point but there still are some people, but they aren't the majority vote of the movement anyway, so overall, they are just themselves and not the movement, i have had only 3 people that act just like you.
@HomeJizz But even they at least stated their points and defending their points while i talked to them, you haven't really done that yet, you being completely ironic with that troll stuff is just some more icing on the cake on why it's funny.
@Evenwas616 Because i don't argue with trolls. I troll them back. FUCKIN TROLLBOY HAHAHA, Nobody listen to this idiot, he is an Illuminati hired troll. He is paid to divert you from real information, change subject matter, basically spread false information to mislead the public on the internet. Some are better than others, this one is pretty good. But he still blatantly gives himself away. Get a REAL job trollboy.
@HomeJizz That is completely off, being you are this ironic at this point and you'd think i'd get paid for wasting my time with you? I don' get paid, Your ego is the size of the moon and you don't seem to be that intelligent to me, but i can guess you're still in school learning what 2+2, this is why you state one point out of your conversation and deliberately go off topic just so that you want have to explain your own statement that i could prove wrong in 2 minutes, are you scared to talk?
@HomeJizz Hush, hush now, it's ok, don't cry, mommy's here to hold your hand and rock you to sleep, mommy will protect you from the monster in the closet, shh..... go to sleep...
@HomeJizz Maybe we can finish our real conversation one day... SOME DAY, maybe, this "troll boy" nonsense might actually stop... *sigh* if you only had the brains to know what i'm talking about or the courage to stand up for your points instead of acting like a kid who got beat up during their childhood and thinks that name calling is the solution to all problems, sorry to remind you, but do you think this has actually worked on anyone in real life?
@HomeJizz And it's also like when you make what you call an offensive comment, you highlight it? What are you doing, that's the unimportant part of the conversation, are you blind, turn your caps lock off. I really don't even know who else you are talking to in this conversation when you say he either, is there an audience watching that gives a shit? They probably don't because the time we had a point down was a long time ago and they don't know where to start at this conversation.
@HomeJizz By the way i do have a real job and you if you think i "blatantly gave myself away", then why am i still here dumb fuck? Nobody would pay me to talk to such a person as unimportant as you, i don't know how i am spreading false information to the public as opposed to you who is just trying to divert the public to this random conversation. I really don't get you at all, some are better than others and i am good? No, you're just an idiot and can't see the difference.
@HomeJizz Let me guess, your next comment will call be a troll boy again, you're going to tell me to get a job, you're going to tell me i'm an idiot AND on top of that you will still be off topic, if all of these apply, or ANY of these apply, then you are predictable.
@HomeJizz A pudding troll boy? Dude i wish i got pudding for talking to you and i wish i was also hired to talk to an immature 14 year old like you, i just have nothing better to do.
@Evenwas616 only a troll boy, gets offended from being called troll boy. and by the way, you mention 6 days ago. well the way i see it is, you are still replying to me, and you are constantly replying to others on this comment section. What are you doing? seems like this is your JOB or something (which it is). Get a REAL job you worthless lowlife, or get a life.
The cops didn't start gassing until the protesters started throwing stuff at them. That's what happens when you throw stuff at the cops: you get gassed.
Also these "protesters" all across the country are being paid. Don't believe me? Check out the Columbus craigslist under the help wanted section. I would post a link but youtube doesn't allow that.
My fantasy ending for that day would have been seeing thousands of protestors walking up to the police line, sit down in the street, lock arms, and sing "We Shall Overcome". This is the way to win the "war" without violence. Violence may kill Occupy before it reaches its full potential.
MORE LIKE A BOWEL MOVEMENT!! what a joke, fade away park dwellers... They real world has to go to work monday and pay for your welfair!! douche bags!!
“Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”
I play golf, but have not yet made it to the professional level!! I have played the game for over 40 years, but have not really put in the practice time and study to be the best. I also do not have the skills to really get there either.
However, I now feel that I should be paid by the successful professionals for trying. It isn't fair that those players who have worked harder, have studied the game, have better equipment and are stronger and more skilled
@dlw3m I agree, completely unfair. You should have access to Tiger Wood's "little black book" as well. Nobody deserves to monopolize all those attractive blonde groupies.
2:18 that cops a dick. lmfao he see's the protesters run up to help an unconscious person and as soon as they get to him he blasts'em. lol thats funny but very very fucked up and mean.
@owingawat They looked like they were using that as an excuse, the guy that got hit should not have been there in the first place, the second guy should not have went up there with the group secondly, thirdly they should have been working instead to begin with.
@Evenwas616 Not everyone can work. If they can, not everyone can get enough money to meet their needs. If they can, not all of them are living happily. Some people work overtime 40+ weeks and still struggle to make ends meet. They are hard workers. Some don't have jobs. Some realize that the system is rigged to reflect the interests of the extremely wealthy and powerful. Some see the system as something that must be changed to survive. Many reasons to be there.
@owingawat I know someone who works 90+ hours a week, every week, because he wants a better future for his children, 40 hours a week is the average, it's pretty much just edging out full time, Of course they might have a problem if they only work 40, I understand what you mean and i don't mean to put you down or be a jackass of the sort, but if you got to China, yes i know, the China argument, they have kids at the age of seven working harder than the guys over here in America...continued...
@owingawatAnd they get paid less per hour, yes this is falling for the interests of the big guys, but this is because they need business or else they die, we don't have that motivation because we can just file for welfare and live the rest of our lives only working for 6 hours a week. Those Chinese have to be hard workers too in able to be the top on labor and attract the big guys so that money flows over there, also they are cheaper too which is a hard factor to fight against...continued...
@owingawat I mentioned their pay is cheaper, but i also mean tax wise, this is unless you evade taxes in the US you will pay the same, but there are fair players in the field that pay 50% in the US, that is NOT ok, it drives business out and most guys that like taxes, do not see that, they think that by default people will still create jobs here, well obviously not as you just mentioned, it's not worth getting a little tax out of someone in risk of everyone's job.
@Evenwas616 Just because chinese are working kids 90 hours for dirt cheap doesn't mean it's right. That's why I'm an anti-capitalist, because the companies that put profit over everything (the environment, human rights, etc...) are the only ones that flourish in a competitive market. But that's how they are supposed to be in capitalism, profit over everything. And the government, media, our culture and even we reflect that pursuit of profit. Everything is affected by it in a negative way.
@Evenwas616 We have the resources and ability to easily feed, clothe, shelter and fulfill everyone's needs and keep them happy and more. But we aren't.
@Evenwas616 A better world is possible. One without hierarchies, a system where we replace leadership with democracy. That's anarchism. OWS is a perfect example of a working anarchist organization
@owingawat Anarchy? they aren't anarchy, they get food and that does not fit the definition of anarchy really at all, an anarchy is like Somalia but a little tweaked around but still looking the same would be Anarchy, not this movement, if the movement is organized or paid or get food which they do, then it is not Anarchy, the definition of Anarchy is and this is right from the dictionary definition, a state of public disorder due to absence and non recognition of authority.
@Evenwas616 The definition of anarchy in the dictionary is wrong. Every single anarchist will refute that. If you understood the philosophy, it would make sense that the definition in the dictionary is wrong. Anarchy means this: An - without, lack of, none; Archos - rulers, leaders,; Anarchy - without rulers, lack of leaders. Anarchists want to replace leadership and politicians with democracy. They want to set things up from the bottom up, instead of top down like we've had for centuries.
@Evenwas616 Nobody would want disorder and chaos. Anarchists are strongly against that. Anarchism proposes a radical form of order of leaderless democracy, like OWS.
@owingawatThe dictionary definition that defines what the word means in every dictionary on the face of the planet is wrong when a minority of wanna be anarchists say that it's wrong, then it is suddenly wrong? Anarchy meant that exact meaning longer than those so called anarchists themselves, When someone says: "It'll be anarchy", do you think they are referring to a made up definition of a word that means a certain type of democracy in a society or do they mean all hell broke loose?
@Evenwas616 The first self-described anarchist's philosophy disagree's with what you call the 'true definition.' Every anarchist philosopher I have ever studied criticizes what the dictionary says. Anarchy means a stateless society, which people believe is chaos. That's why the dictionary says that. But they don't understand the philosophies that emerged to construct a form of radical democratic order that is without a state, which is a stateless society, an anarchy. Not all hell breaks loose
@owingawat It's like a democrat, do you think a democrat supports "demo" the people, or are they supporting the elite? Fascist is Fascism, Dictatorship is for a dictator, Anarchist is for Anarchism. The meaning of anarchism begins with the word "anarch" in Greece which was anarkhos 'Without a chief'.
@Evenwas616 I would agree with the greeks 'without a chief.' there is no chief, it is replaced with democracy. Workers democratically manage their workplaces and collectively own it.
@Evenwas616 Townspeople democratically make the laws and rules of the town. By what you're saying, no anarchist philosopher is a 'true anarchist.' It's a misunderstanding of the label
@Evenwas616 And don't listen to the punk-rock-skater-dudes that say they are anarchists and want disorder and craziness, they are the trend followers.
@owingawat Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful or alternatively as opposing authority and hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations. Proponents of anarchism, known as "anarchists", advocate stateless societies based on non-hierarchical voluntary associations.
@Evenwas616 OWS is a non-hierarchial voluntary association. It isn't a state. It's an anarchist organization to me. The run things democratically. That's how towns would be under anarchism. And factories and other workplaces would be democratically managed by the workers there, non-hierarchial and democratic, which is what socialism/communism is supposed to be I think. That's my anarchist view. Noam Chomsky's philosophy of anarcho-syndicalism seems pretty similar, so I guess I'd agree with him.
@owingawat Fine, fine, but the only thing that is the problem with how the Occupy movement gets its money, is because you have guys like Starbucks and Au Bon Pain funding them to stay out there, it's been revealed a few times that it was the case for how they got their food.
@Evenwas616 Well, tons of donations have been made from people sending them in. I remember for the first several months they were receiving tons of boxes of donations every day with food and supplies. Contrary to what most people think many of them have jobs too, the ones that can't afford to be full-time campers. They've also shown a lot of self-sufficiency with there own doctors, built buildings, bike generators, and things like that. I think Ben and Jerry's also gave them money.
@Evenwas616 Workers came close during the labor movement with sit-in strikes. That's why the elite were so terrified by that type of striking, they almost kicked the owners out and ran it for everyone
@owingawat The last thing nowadays that America would give up besides land is big companies in America, in the current day and age of America, it is impossible to run a strike anymore that would effect something majorly anymore that would succeed. The donations? They don't get donated to enough to actually support them completely, like you mentioned Ben and Jerry's started funding them too, but there will be a point in time where they decide that the movement has gone nowhere and back out.
@owingawat I am surprised that they are still funding, i really am, it puzzles me why they would state a view of such a small minority of people and try to support it when in reality, more people disagree with it, they aren't aiming where the money is and the way they do this makes them look like amateurs in the field of business, it's a bad investment to make and it was a stupid move of them, they probably thought the movement would have been bigger, but now you can see it isn't.
@owingawat If they stop funding them, then the Occupy movement will not like them and all of the world think they just backed out on a big move which looks really bad on them, i'm guessing they're stuck, but the longer they stay, the more they pay, the more they pay, the more they lose money, the more money they spend, the more everyone else might not like them...this is if people know the movement even existed to begin with though.
@Evenwas616 Well, the movement is here to bring mass attention to the fact that this global system has many undesirable effects. The aim isn't to change the system, it's to create a new one. Many anarchist believe in creating the society they want in the shell of the old, which is what they are trying to do. I don't believe it's a small minority, it is a minority, but not as small as you think. The battle isn't necessary a physical one as it is to recognize shit dont work and we can change it.
@Evenwas616 And it's a world-wide thing. I believe personal donations and what people bring make up more than what the few companies that fund them do.
@owingawat It's world wide yes, but they all fight for different reasons, i don't agree with the one here but i could agree with the one in Africa, even though they have the same name doesn't mean they fight for the same things, yes they are all over the world, but the ones that will actually change something are unlikely because they have only a few pockets of people in these major places, maybe there could be 70% of the people support it in Africa but 1% of the 99% in America.
@owingawat With companies controlling 43% of the money in America for just the top 1%, i would think that the bigger majority of donations would come from the big hitters instead of the little guys, the little guys should be able to give, how much? $20 a person?, which would be generous for their class, when you got Ben and Jerry's alone probably donating $5,000 or $15,000 or even $100,000 or more in the cause, just cause it's only 1% of the 99% doesn't mean they are easy to feed.
@Evenwas616 I kinda understand where you are coming from. The occupy movement's focus changes from place to place but they all have a lot of common ground and in the end the goal is to change the system currently in place which is unsustainable and has too many negative effects.
i like how around the 2 minute mark, the people go to attend to the person hurt, and the police start firing at them and start throwing flash bangs
I mean, there is no threat the whole time, but especially when they go to help a hurt person
You can see the protesters tell and show the cops that they are just there to tend to that person, and to push farther
But the cops dont care
They have fun taking our money and firing on us
They are legal gangs
As long as we fit the bill, they'll keep coming.
9182846236 1 hour ago
I don't see police brutality...I just see a bunch of instigators hiding behind sheilds throwing baseball sized rocks. Then, at the end when 10 cops run up 100 pussies drop sheilds and signs and book it. Occupy my fist.
usd2bargr 4 hours ago
@usd2bargr ahahhahahahahah! you think your sissy-ass little momma's boy teachers-pet faggot comments are gonna stop this? you need to watch this video again 100 times in a row & tell me you & your little faggot lick the system's asshole comments are gonna do jack shit. you're just a little fucking mama's girl. shut the fuck up you brainwashed kiss-ass. NOTHING WILL STOP THIS MOVEMENT. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR FAKE "OCCUPY FIST" BULLSHIT. you little fairy-faggot who couldn't hurt a fly.
tyddfr 2 hours ago 9
@tyddfr oh yeah...I just thumbs downed your comment. I pretty much just stopped your "movement" suck on that homeboy
usd2bargr 1 hour ago
The police are just minions for the world's cowardice elite.
Kiphos 4 hours ago
People need to stop complaining and do something with their lives.
NOTobeseAMERICAN 18 hours ago
Rothshields, Rockefellers, FED - all jewish.
STOP THEM NOW !
whitepowa55 2 days ago
@whitepowa55 really? your going to blame jewish people...
NOTobeseAMERICAN 18 hours ago
I support OWS 100%. Keep up the good fight! The system is built against us and it's time we fight for what's right. The rich got bailed out, everyone else got sold out. I will attend as many OWS events as soon as it gets warm out here in NYC. OWS will be back in full force in the spring and summer, I can promise you that!!!!!!!!!
KingDanny9 2 days ago
@KingDanny9 Good. While you stand in some street doing nothing with your life, I will be earning money with engineering degree. How exactly is the "system" built against you. I couldn;t afford to go to college. But I worked hard in high school and got an academic scholarship to an affordable college. I worked and payed for all of college myself, without any loans. Now, I got a great job that I really enjoy. Honestly, its not that hard if you put in some effort.
NOTobeseAMERICAN 18 hours ago
what is funny as these people are being targeted as terrorist, terrorist do not tell you when they are coming lol, you are pathetic to think this is good vs evil, it is practical vs moronic.
PitBullsBiteHard 3 days ago
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PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
They are turning this into a war. People, please hear the voice of reason. Violence is NEVER the way to fix things. NO peace can be sustained through violence.
portbooot 3 days ago
Fucking cowards.
XxAtomVinterxX 3 days ago
yes they obviously had a peaceful demonstration in mind, thats why the protestors brought shields lol
mattatuckmanful 3 days ago
@mattatuckmanful lol, and the cops brought guns why then , lol. fail on ur sad logic
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard the cops werent there to protest, they were there to stop the crazies from harming people/property. hence guns
mattatuckmanful 2 days ago
@mattatuckmanful oh well some of the people were there to stop cops from beating people, so what goes around comes around.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
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NRAdude 3 days ago
@NRAdude corpratism
PitBullsBiteHard 3 days ago
@NRAdude if real capitalism existed corporations could not, end game.
PitBullsBiteHard 3 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard How so?
NRAdude 3 days ago
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@NRAdude practically(free for everyone)educating the public would serve as a better positive momentum,free education means free technology to everyone for everything,what we have now is the educated(or so posted on a piece of paper)owning everything(including educational and research facilities)Our infrastructure would be booming we would have a hard time finding jobs for the qualified instead of the unqualifiedThe police are a joke,if we wanted to be terrorist we wouldn't announce it
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@NRAdude corporations remove responsibility from the individual, try doing that as a private businessman. try claiming bankruptcy and no one knows it, it's a big list but i don't want capitalism either so why waste my time.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard Quite a passionate assertion you have here. But who/what are corporations made of? People? And you cannot think of one Socialist society where there was an equal sharing of misery? And are you saying that Communism depends on your nationality rather than your socioeconomic system?
NRAdude 2 days ago
@NRAdude ni ican't think of even one, do you know what everyone means or do you think it is everyone that is not important that counts as everyone. and i care nothing for nationality or race or religion. Everyone means from the celebs to the dictator the cops exe..... everyone look it up man.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard I have many times before. So tell me, you say that true communism/socialism is economic equality for everyone? Karl Marx says specically that communims/socialism does not work without "central planning" to coerce the elites and coordinate efforts. Doesn't this "central planning" imply it has more power/resources than everyone else? Thus, socialism by its own founder creates economic inequality but aims at equality at the same time?
NRAdude 19 hours ago
@NRAdude and there has never been a socialist society where EVERYONE was equal, in pay, respect, importance privileges. and before you give me a history lesson remind me of what the word everyone means first.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard i think your running low on cool aid......
mattatuckmanful 2 days ago
@mattatuckmanful i don't drink cool aid, kool guy.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard dude ur an idiot why dont you get a job and move out of your mommys basement...
mattatuckmanful 1 day ago
@mattatuckmanful hey capt original, call capt obvious and get a fuckin clue.
PitBullsBiteHard 1 day ago
@NRAdude and nope i'm not a commy, that would be a russian or china man or korean. i'm American.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
@PitBullsBiteHard man i think you are confused, so am I
PitBullsBiteHard 2 days ago
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wordofmouthjam 3 days ago
Democracy my ass more like facism in the land of the free ( the hypocrisy and double standard is unbelievable!)
Ayanasia 4 days ago
its absolutely ridiculous that the attempt to maintain order is considered police brutality... the police are there to protect the rest of us from mobs like this one... of course people are gonna get hurt wen the fail to comply with police directives, and in this case the police were perfectly reasonable... if u want real police brutality, u cud take a look at china...the chinese probably find it childish that we consider this police brutality in the US
BFH94556 4 days ago
@BFH94556 This is the same mob that broke store windows and robbed shops. I saw a video of OWS Oakland protestors breaking the windows of a Foot Locker, only to rob it. There was murders at OWS Oakland. The Police have every right to disperse this mob
StonewallJackson26 4 days ago
@StonewallJackson26 absolutely!
BFH94556 3 days ago
I now know what my grandmother meant when she said "some things wont change until the good lord comes back"
YoungDreezee 4 days ago
@YoungDreezee my fault , my comment should have LORD not lord
YoungDreezee 4 days ago
These fucking cops need to be handcuffed and have people shoot tear gas at their sorry pig asses. OCCUPY THE WORLD!!!
kidzew 5 days ago
@kidzew SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! stupid douche bag
510RFL 4 days ago
@kidzew Why don't you go back to your mom's basement and do what you do best,.....Occupy her basement. LMAO
Dealit707 4 days ago
@kidzew Quiet down, little boy.
d33g1 3 days ago
God damnit you americans, if you are upset and want change, stop acting like hippies. Fucking charge them like the Greeks, they are the real heroes
nos97 5 days ago
@nos97 the greeks are pussies they got money from european banks to pay for extravegant benefits, and now they cry like little bitches because someone has to pay for it,the greeks are even bigger losers than the occupy movement
100crawma 5 days ago
The loser protesters should be thanking the police for working and paying taxes which they undoubtedbly benefit from through social programs. You know who doesn't like the police? Criminals..so why the hell do we care what criminals think?
coleyw84 5 days ago
wow, you'd think COPS were RECRUITED the way these Cowardly Swine MISBEHAVE. and to ALL you UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORTERS of this 1st WORLD Insanity, you'll soon be singing a Different tune when these SAME GUNS are aimed @ you. PIGS INCLUDED...Your no BETTER than 3rd WORLD SCUM your just BETTER "FED". Pun Intended. SIMPS....XD
720rotation 5 days ago
@720rotation I thINK YoUr CAPS lock BUTton may BE BrOkEn.
Also, you should probably learn the difference between "Your" and "You're" before you start trying to sound clever.
d33g1 3 days ago
Stop Blaming America. Blame Zionism.
TsafirKamel 5 days ago
@TsafirKamel NAZI ROUSE
100crawma 5 days ago
God you people are stupid
buster9877 5 days ago
OR BECAUSE YOU GUYS WERE TRYING TO STEAL A BUILDING?
buster9877 5 days ago
WELL GEE I WONDER WHY THE POLICE ARE DOING THAT, IS IT BECAUSE THE STUPID LOW LIFE HIPPIES THAT CAN'T GET A JOB ARE TOSSING ROCKS AT THEM? NAHHHH IT'S BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE EVILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
buster9877 5 days ago
couple of flash bangs and the hippie filth go running
100crawma 5 days ago
@100crawma thank you oh my god!
buster9877 5 days ago
go police, fuck these hippie faggots im going to join up like my uncle so i can have some fun bashing in skulls
CryptWarrior69 6 days ago
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Kaleb670 6 days ago
in syria they are watching this and in arabic are saying what a bunch of fucking pussies
100crawma 1 week ago
@100crawma yes of course, a peaceful revolution is not possible
dschmidtdddd 6 days ago
@dschmidtdddd The way this movement in America functions, it won't matter if it is peaceful or violent, they hardly stand a chance anymore.
Evenwas616 6 days ago
@100crawma LOL
hopeinsf 5 days ago
lets all admit occupy wall street and all the occupy movements were and are epic failures
100crawma 1 week ago
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RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
Alright go lie down in the middle of the street while we video the police doing their job and everyone crowd around him and blame the cops for our actions. That'll show 'em
SouthAlabamaGuy 1 week ago
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"You love people not for what you do for them or what they do for you, you love them for their values, their virtues, which they achieved in their own character. You don't love causelessly, you don't love everybody indiscriminately, you love only those who deserve it." -- Ayn Rand
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
These people are the dirty underbelly of America.
Most of them are not destitute, not starving, they are simply dissatisfied with their own lives and jealous of the success of others.
So what do they do?
Violent protests. Disruptions in local business. Mayhem.
Half of them don't even know why they're there or what they're doing anymore.
These groups have been overrun with Anarchists, Communists, and white-supremacists.
The "American Nazi Party" openly supports Occupy Wall Street.
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein Look up the term "reactionary" on wikipedia, Ronald.
flugeldozer 1 week ago
@flugeldozer watch?v=fKc6esIi0_U
RonaldPaulstein 1 week ago
@RonaldPaulstein i have to agree with you, ur absolutely right ,these jobless fools have to go ruin a city cause of being jealous of the richer class, well im glad i live in a pretty wealthy political and police family
CryptWarrior69 6 days ago
@CryptWarrior69 They are confused. They want "Socialism" in the U.S.A. but fail to understand that Capitalism and the free market can and does benefit them more than any Socialist economy ever could. Less government regulation of private business is better than more, it is that regulation itself which creates all the problems and the imbalance of power.
Economics:
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RonaldPaulstein 6 days ago
@RonaldPaulstein lenin called these rubes useful idiots, the title fits
100crawma 5 days ago
the middle east is getting pretty bad. wow u americans have the nerve to judge other countries , look at your own. America has the right to free spe... o i forgot no talking back, so move like sheep and let your gov. run your lives.
fueiowls 1 week ago
The cops are going to start to get a lot more nice when people start firing back...
Dougster 1 week ago
@Dougster Hippies don't like guns, remember? LOL Oh, BTW, the police are better shots than a hyped up anarchist ever will be. Good luck with that.
ZoomieMSgt 1 week ago
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@ZoomieMSgt LOLOLOL EVERYONE POINT AN LAUGH AT TEH TROLL
Anonpartition 1 week ago
MEDIC!!!!! LMAO
d33g1 1 week ago
"You love people not for what you do for them or what they do for you, you love them for their values, their virtues, which they achieved in their own character. You don't love causelessly, you don't love everybody indiscriminately, you love only those who deserve it." -- Ayn Rand
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
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HomeJizz 1 week ago
"I say that man is entitled to his own happiness and that he must achieve it himself, but that he cannot demand that others giveup their lives to make him happy. And nor should he wish to sacrafice himself for the happiness of others, I hold that man should have self-esteem." -- Ayn Rand
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^-- Truth.
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
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HomeJizz 1 week ago
@HomeJizz Um... no? Her name is (was) "Ayn Rand" and she was an author and philosopher. Her two most famous novels are "The Fountainhead" and "Atlas Shrugged."
You should look into it. Reading is good for you.
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
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HomeJizz 1 week ago
"I say that man is entitled to his own happiness and that he must achieve it himself, but that he cannot demand that others give up their lives to make him happy. And nor should he wish to sacrafice himself for the happiness of others, I hold that man should have self-esteem." -- Ayn Rand
The only person who is to blame for why your life is not exactly the way you would like it to be is yourself.
Your [Occupy Oakland] argument is invalid.
Altruism is immoral.
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
@AllTehPrettyHorses Was that quote from Atlas Shrugged or the Fountain Head? I'm not sure, it might be neither all i know.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Neither, it is from Ayn Rand directly.
Search YouTube for: "Ayn Rand on Happiness"
It's the truth, even if your pathetic self-sacraficing ego will never allow you to admit it.
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
@AllTehPrettyHorses Woah Woah hold on now, i never was going to try and offend you, i was just wondering where the quote came from.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Sorry, I'm at "defense-condition 0" these days. Little or no warning...
You were not offensive and I overreacted and I'm sorry.
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
@AllTehPrettyHorses Yeah it's all good, i've done that to some people too by accident, hahaha.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 lol, whatever TROLLBOY. by the way why are you still commenting over a week later nonstop? oh yeah, because you get paid to. I said it before, and I will say it again, get a real job, sad little troll.
HomeJizz 1 week ago
@HomeJizz Only an idiot or some college kid with an ego the size of an airplane would fit your personality, i already have a job, by the way, I could go on and on on how you are wrong and how you were the worst thing to happen to your mother, but that would consume all of MY time. No i don't get paid for putting small comments on Youtube for such an unimportant subject.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz You want the truth? I talk to people like you for my amusement, just to get a few good laughs out of you, then i tell you what you don't want to hear nor believe, so afterwards i keep laughing at the stupidity, not many people have given me legitimate reasons that defend their point but there still are some people, but they aren't the majority vote of the movement anyway, so overall, they are just themselves and not the movement, i have had only 3 people that act just like you.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz But even they at least stated their points and defending their points while i talked to them, you haven't really done that yet, you being completely ironic with that troll stuff is just some more icing on the cake on why it's funny.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Because i don't argue with trolls. I troll them back. FUCKIN TROLLBOY HAHAHA, Nobody listen to this idiot, he is an Illuminati hired troll. He is paid to divert you from real information, change subject matter, basically spread false information to mislead the public on the internet. Some are better than others, this one is pretty good. But he still blatantly gives himself away. Get a REAL job trollboy.
HomeJizz 1 week ago
@HomeJizz That is completely off, being you are this ironic at this point and you'd think i'd get paid for wasting my time with you? I don' get paid, Your ego is the size of the moon and you don't seem to be that intelligent to me, but i can guess you're still in school learning what 2+2, this is why you state one point out of your conversation and deliberately go off topic just so that you want have to explain your own statement that i could prove wrong in 2 minutes, are you scared to talk?
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz Hush, hush now, it's ok, don't cry, mommy's here to hold your hand and rock you to sleep, mommy will protect you from the monster in the closet, shh..... go to sleep...
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz Maybe we can finish our real conversation one day... SOME DAY, maybe, this "troll boy" nonsense might actually stop... *sigh* if you only had the brains to know what i'm talking about or the courage to stand up for your points instead of acting like a kid who got beat up during their childhood and thinks that name calling is the solution to all problems, sorry to remind you, but do you think this has actually worked on anyone in real life?
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz And it's also like when you make what you call an offensive comment, you highlight it? What are you doing, that's the unimportant part of the conversation, are you blind, turn your caps lock off. I really don't even know who else you are talking to in this conversation when you say he either, is there an audience watching that gives a shit? They probably don't because the time we had a point down was a long time ago and they don't know where to start at this conversation.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz By the way i do have a real job and you if you think i "blatantly gave myself away", then why am i still here dumb fuck? Nobody would pay me to talk to such a person as unimportant as you, i don't know how i am spreading false information to the public as opposed to you who is just trying to divert the public to this random conversation. I really don't get you at all, some are better than others and i am good? No, you're just an idiot and can't see the difference.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz Let me guess, your next comment will call be a troll boy again, you're going to tell me to get a job, you're going to tell me i'm an idiot AND on top of that you will still be off topic, if all of these apply, or ANY of these apply, then you are predictable.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
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HomeJizz 1 week ago
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HomeJizz 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 HIRED TROLL. proof if is in the pudding Trolly boy.
HomeJizz 1 week ago
@HomeJizz A pudding troll boy? Dude i wish i got pudding for talking to you and i wish i was also hired to talk to an immature 14 year old like you, i just have nothing better to do.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz Pudding... what i would do for pudding right now, i would just buy it at wall mart, that's what i'll do.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@HomeJizz But seriously, i want to get back on topic to your pathetic version and excuse for a discussion, please continue when you grow some balls.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
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@Evenwas616 only a troll boy, gets offended from being called troll boy. and by the way, you mention 6 days ago. well the way i see it is, you are still replying to me, and you are constantly replying to others on this comment section. What are you doing? seems like this is your JOB or something (which it is). Get a REAL job you worthless lowlife, or get a life.
HomeJizz 1 week ago
get a job you faggots
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AFellowMan1 1 week ago
The cops didn't start gassing until the protesters started throwing stuff at them. That's what happens when you throw stuff at the cops: you get gassed.
Also these "protesters" all across the country are being paid. Don't believe me? Check out the Columbus craigslist under the help wanted section. I would post a link but youtube doesn't allow that.
warhawkjah 1 week ago
I'm a riot control officer and they're not supposed to fire those flashbangs at such close range (for their own safety).
billybob7217 1 week ago
My fantasy ending for that day would have been seeing thousands of protestors walking up to the police line, sit down in the street, lock arms, and sing "We Shall Overcome". This is the way to win the "war" without violence. Violence may kill Occupy before it reaches its full potential.
RicknSI2000 1 week ago
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@RicknSI2000 My fantasy ending for that day would have been for all of them to go to work !
mvoerman 1 week ago
brazy
TheTrieye 1 week ago
MORE LIKE A BOWEL MOVEMENT!! what a joke, fade away park dwellers... They real world has to go to work monday and pay for your welfair!! douche bags!!
510RFL 1 week ago
“Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”
― Frederick Douglass
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koppellhinex 1 week ago
0:26 Fat motherfucker laughing. That guy deserves to die in a hole.
derekturner356 1 week ago
"I am a member of golf's 99%. …!!!
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However, I now feel that I should be paid by the successful professionals for trying. It isn't fair that those players who have worked harder, have studied the game, have better equipment and are stronger and more skilled
dlw3m 1 week ago
@dlw3m I agree, completely unfair. You should have access to Tiger Wood's "little black book" as well. Nobody deserves to monopolize all those attractive blonde groupies.
ZoomieMSgt 1 week ago
This is not the United States of America.
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hehh666 2 weeks ago
2:18 that cops a dick. lmfao he see's the protesters run up to help an unconscious person and as soon as they get to him he blasts'em. lol thats funny but very very fucked up and mean.
owingawat 2 weeks ago
@owingawat They looked like they were using that as an excuse, the guy that got hit should not have been there in the first place, the second guy should not have went up there with the group secondly, thirdly they should have been working instead to begin with.
Evenwas616 2 weeks ago
@Evenwas616 What a very well thought out argument.
You're clearly getting the point champ.
z0mby 2 weeks ago
@z0mby hahaha, Thanks!
Evenwas616 2 weeks ago
@Evenwas616 Not everyone can work. If they can, not everyone can get enough money to meet their needs. If they can, not all of them are living happily. Some people work overtime 40+ weeks and still struggle to make ends meet. They are hard workers. Some don't have jobs. Some realize that the system is rigged to reflect the interests of the extremely wealthy and powerful. Some see the system as something that must be changed to survive. Many reasons to be there.
owingawat 2 weeks ago
@owingawat I know someone who works 90+ hours a week, every week, because he wants a better future for his children, 40 hours a week is the average, it's pretty much just edging out full time, Of course they might have a problem if they only work 40, I understand what you mean and i don't mean to put you down or be a jackass of the sort, but if you got to China, yes i know, the China argument, they have kids at the age of seven working harder than the guys over here in America...continued...
Evenwas616 2 weeks ago
@owingawatAnd they get paid less per hour, yes this is falling for the interests of the big guys, but this is because they need business or else they die, we don't have that motivation because we can just file for welfare and live the rest of our lives only working for 6 hours a week. Those Chinese have to be hard workers too in able to be the top on labor and attract the big guys so that money flows over there, also they are cheaper too which is a hard factor to fight against...continued...
Evenwas616 2 weeks ago
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@Evenwas616 Yeah uh, your point? you bastards are all over the internet TROLL BOY. You don't fool me fuck face.
HomeJizz 1 week ago
@owingawat I mentioned their pay is cheaper, but i also mean tax wise, this is unless you evade taxes in the US you will pay the same, but there are fair players in the field that pay 50% in the US, that is NOT ok, it drives business out and most guys that like taxes, do not see that, they think that by default people will still create jobs here, well obviously not as you just mentioned, it's not worth getting a little tax out of someone in risk of everyone's job.
Evenwas616 2 weeks ago
@Evenwas616 Just because chinese are working kids 90 hours for dirt cheap doesn't mean it's right. That's why I'm an anti-capitalist, because the companies that put profit over everything (the environment, human rights, etc...) are the only ones that flourish in a competitive market. But that's how they are supposed to be in capitalism, profit over everything. And the government, media, our culture and even we reflect that pursuit of profit. Everything is affected by it in a negative way.
owingawat 2 weeks ago
@Evenwas616 We have the resources and ability to easily feed, clothe, shelter and fulfill everyone's needs and keep them happy and more. But we aren't.
owingawat 2 weeks ago
@Evenwas616 A better world is possible. One without hierarchies, a system where we replace leadership with democracy. That's anarchism. OWS is a perfect example of a working anarchist organization
owingawat 2 weeks ago
@owingawat Anarchy? they aren't anarchy, they get food and that does not fit the definition of anarchy really at all, an anarchy is like Somalia but a little tweaked around but still looking the same would be Anarchy, not this movement, if the movement is organized or paid or get food which they do, then it is not Anarchy, the definition of Anarchy is and this is right from the dictionary definition, a state of public disorder due to absence and non recognition of authority.
Evenwas616 2 weeks ago
@Evenwas616 The definition of anarchy in the dictionary is wrong. Every single anarchist will refute that. If you understood the philosophy, it would make sense that the definition in the dictionary is wrong. Anarchy means this: An - without, lack of, none; Archos - rulers, leaders,; Anarchy - without rulers, lack of leaders. Anarchists want to replace leadership and politicians with democracy. They want to set things up from the bottom up, instead of top down like we've had for centuries.
owingawat 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Nobody would want disorder and chaos. Anarchists are strongly against that. Anarchism proposes a radical form of order of leaderless democracy, like OWS.
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawatThe dictionary definition that defines what the word means in every dictionary on the face of the planet is wrong when a minority of wanna be anarchists say that it's wrong, then it is suddenly wrong? Anarchy meant that exact meaning longer than those so called anarchists themselves, When someone says: "It'll be anarchy", do you think they are referring to a made up definition of a word that means a certain type of democracy in a society or do they mean all hell broke loose?
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 The first self-described anarchist's philosophy disagree's with what you call the 'true definition.' Every anarchist philosopher I have ever studied criticizes what the dictionary says. Anarchy means a stateless society, which people believe is chaos. That's why the dictionary says that. But they don't understand the philosophies that emerged to construct a form of radical democratic order that is without a state, which is a stateless society, an anarchy. Not all hell breaks loose
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawat If you don't follow the TRUE definition of Anarchy, then you are not a true anarchist.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@owingawat It's like a democrat, do you think a democrat supports "demo" the people, or are they supporting the elite? Fascist is Fascism, Dictatorship is for a dictator, Anarchist is for Anarchism. The meaning of anarchism begins with the word "anarch" in Greece which was anarkhos 'Without a chief'.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 I would agree with the greeks 'without a chief.' there is no chief, it is replaced with democracy. Workers democratically manage their workplaces and collectively own it.
owingawat 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Townspeople democratically make the laws and rules of the town. By what you're saying, no anarchist philosopher is a 'true anarchist.' It's a misunderstanding of the label
owingawat 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 And don't listen to the punk-rock-skater-dudes that say they are anarchists and want disorder and craziness, they are the trend followers.
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawat Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful or alternatively as opposing authority and hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations. Proponents of anarchism, known as "anarchists", advocate stateless societies based on non-hierarchical voluntary associations.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 OWS is a non-hierarchial voluntary association. It isn't a state. It's an anarchist organization to me. The run things democratically. That's how towns would be under anarchism. And factories and other workplaces would be democratically managed by the workers there, non-hierarchial and democratic, which is what socialism/communism is supposed to be I think. That's my anarchist view. Noam Chomsky's philosophy of anarcho-syndicalism seems pretty similar, so I guess I'd agree with him.
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawat Fine, fine, but the only thing that is the problem with how the Occupy movement gets its money, is because you have guys like Starbucks and Au Bon Pain funding them to stay out there, it's been revealed a few times that it was the case for how they got their food.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Well, tons of donations have been made from people sending them in. I remember for the first several months they were receiving tons of boxes of donations every day with food and supplies. Contrary to what most people think many of them have jobs too, the ones that can't afford to be full-time campers. They've also shown a lot of self-sufficiency with there own doctors, built buildings, bike generators, and things like that. I think Ben and Jerry's also gave them money.
owingawat 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 A complete revolution would have workers occupying there jobs and running businesses democratically like I mentioned earlier.
owingawat 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Workers came close during the labor movement with sit-in strikes. That's why the elite were so terrified by that type of striking, they almost kicked the owners out and ran it for everyone
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawat The last thing nowadays that America would give up besides land is big companies in America, in the current day and age of America, it is impossible to run a strike anymore that would effect something majorly anymore that would succeed. The donations? They don't get donated to enough to actually support them completely, like you mentioned Ben and Jerry's started funding them too, but there will be a point in time where they decide that the movement has gone nowhere and back out.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@owingawat I am surprised that they are still funding, i really am, it puzzles me why they would state a view of such a small minority of people and try to support it when in reality, more people disagree with it, they aren't aiming where the money is and the way they do this makes them look like amateurs in the field of business, it's a bad investment to make and it was a stupid move of them, they probably thought the movement would have been bigger, but now you can see it isn't.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@owingawat If they stop funding them, then the Occupy movement will not like them and all of the world think they just backed out on a big move which looks really bad on them, i'm guessing they're stuck, but the longer they stay, the more they pay, the more they pay, the more they lose money, the more money they spend, the more everyone else might not like them...this is if people know the movement even existed to begin with though.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 Well, the movement is here to bring mass attention to the fact that this global system has many undesirable effects. The aim isn't to change the system, it's to create a new one. Many anarchist believe in creating the society they want in the shell of the old, which is what they are trying to do. I don't believe it's a small minority, it is a minority, but not as small as you think. The battle isn't necessary a physical one as it is to recognize shit dont work and we can change it.
owingawat 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 And it's a world-wide thing. I believe personal donations and what people bring make up more than what the few companies that fund them do.
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawat It's world wide yes, but they all fight for different reasons, i don't agree with the one here but i could agree with the one in Africa, even though they have the same name doesn't mean they fight for the same things, yes they are all over the world, but the ones that will actually change something are unlikely because they have only a few pockets of people in these major places, maybe there could be 70% of the people support it in Africa but 1% of the 99% in America.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@owingawat With companies controlling 43% of the money in America for just the top 1%, i would think that the bigger majority of donations would come from the big hitters instead of the little guys, the little guys should be able to give, how much? $20 a person?, which would be generous for their class, when you got Ben and Jerry's alone probably donating $5,000 or $15,000 or even $100,000 or more in the cause, just cause it's only 1% of the 99% doesn't mean they are easy to feed.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@Evenwas616 I kinda understand where you are coming from. The occupy movement's focus changes from place to place but they all have a lot of common ground and in the end the goal is to change the system currently in place which is unsustainable and has too many negative effects.
owingawat 1 week ago
@owingawat If you would like to tell me who you got your version of anarchism from, i would be glad to hear who it was that began it.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
@owingawat Today's view of anarchy has far departed the original views of people like Michael Bakunin, Peter Kropotkin, and William Godwin.
Evenwas616 1 week ago
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HomeJizz 1 week ago
Solidarity from Kansas City, Missouri
lance1300kcmo 2 weeks ago
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Supafreak666 2 weeks ago
the oakland police are so confused, they are not used to beating up white people.
jacobromu 2 weeks ago