Postscript to Open Letter to Nickelodeon, Re: Spongebob's Pineapple Under the Sea

[R1ckr011]

i don't understand this channel... why isn't it part of the other one?

[mi738]

the whale is an orphan

[frostare]

What I agree is that this is the essence of what we now take as "sciences" is Mathemathics but had we came up with another way to represent the universe(s) that's for Philosophy to decide, you know, the mother of all sciences.

[blacksabbia]

Really its just a cartoon, most things in kids cartoons don't usually stick to the truth of reality. Don't get me wrong I'm not doubting your intelligence YOU really excel in maths. But its just a pineapple on a harmless kids cartoon

[DumbCommentBot316]

@blacksabbia You know.... I think she's trying to prove a point. It's not about the pineapple. It's about the entire idea of presenting scientific inaccuracies to children; they simply aren't taught the scientific facts of things like evolution, the shape of a pineapple, and even major historical events.

[MrEpicguy88]

"I mean how do you sleep at night?"

By closing my eyes and resting.

[WellofMellow]

The world as we know it is based on mathamatics... another world with the same mathematical laws would most likely lead to the same physical laws, which would probably lead to the same chemical laws, which might lead to the same biological laws.

She's saying that for the world of Spongebob to change the laws of biology is not too bad. To change the laws of physics is worse, but still acceptable. However to change the laws of mathematics is to create a world which we cannot comprehend. fair point

[TheFlyingFruit]

@WellofMellow Well I've always thought that mathematics claims to be indepentend and to stand above everything else. Thus other worlds may have different laws of physics but they all have to obey to mathematics.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[WellofMellow]

@TheFlyingFruit Yeah pretty much, although what 'LoserUser72' said is also a fair point: that if they can all be traced back to mathematics then they are all mathematical impossibilities.

I think a world with different mathematical laws could exist - but it would be so different from our own world that I doubt we could fully get our minds around it. For example a 4 dimensional world or whatever... it's more mild speculation of mine than some kind of cultist belief though. :D

[frostare]

@WellofMellow I was once told "Mathemathics are meant to apply for all dimensions, even if we never go there."

[R1ckr011]

@WellofMellow that's not a different mathematical world... it's a different physical one. Any String theorist would tell you this.

It's hard to comprehend what a "different math" would be... mostly because we have no clear picture of what the basis of mathematics actually is... Until some really interesting and recent developments with Ultimate L (look it up on New Scientist), the foundation of mathematics simply could not be constructed even in principle.

[hippynurd]

snail snail snail snail

[LoserUser72]

Of course, everything comes back to math. Biology is esentially chemistry, which is essentially physics, which is essentially math. Therefore, they're all pretty much mathematical impossibilities! :D

[haka7576]

for the first thing it could be a magnesium fire under th sea second thing mr. krabbs could have adopted pearl but you are right about the house ill give you that love th movies haka7576

[ickybonesss]

So many more things in the show that is just sitty as butts as well. Awesome job.

[Jex134]

"The world is not split into possible things and impossible things." Yes, yes it is Vi.

[LoserUser72]

@Jex134 She means that there are more categories than simply "impossible" or "possible".

[voldemortrules101]

Accordinbg to my studies, scientific smart stuff scientific smart stuff scientific smart stuff> Therefore, scientific smart stuff scientific smart stuff. Thank you.

[77robinhood77]

if you want a scientific explanation to this "impossible" pineapple of yours, here's the deal: Having those unatural spirals gave it ecological advantages over its normal brothers, alowing it to grow underwater.

check for Darwin

[77robinhood77]

ok, so the best theory that we human beings have developed so far, quantum physics, explains everything perceftly, EXEPT gravity, so just because we face something that we cannot understand we shall label it impossible? That's the problem with ultra sceptics, they believe in modern science as it is the universal truth, but there are plenty of things to find, study and explain.

[ilovec0mputers]

There's no such thing as a mathematical impossibility. Only changed axioms.

[lh16]

Spongebob is for kids, not for math students to use to show off they learnt something

[magicme2300]

stupid girl spongebob is a kids show it doent have to be realistic

[98Quince]

ViHeart:I used to be a normal minded person like you,but then I took a marker to the paper...

[CleverNameHere81]

Is her name pronounced "Vee" or "Vie"?

[Plutoisaplanet1]

@CleverNameHere81 It's Vie. Like Die. But Vihart. See her intro video on this channel. Vihart squared 8-)

[aceandalsostuff]

@CleverNameHere81 Vie, and it is apparently short for Victoria.

[SourRevenge]

What about drowning in a beach underwater?

[TonyStonewall4]

OK, this time, you have a legitimate argument.

[SomeoneBeginingWithI]

Under-the-sea pinapples are obviously not only a different spiecies from the eddible pinapples, they are of a different class (or order, or whatever) which does have bilateral symetry. From the time the pinaple begins to grow, it already has all of its scale-things, aranged symetrically.

The fibonachi spirals come as a result of a plant adding new scale-things. The under-the-sea pinaple does not need to do this, as the prexisting scales-things simply expand as it grows.

[205up90down]

Snail should make an appearance in every video from now on. Who's with me?!

[Lithiumberry]

MOAR SNAIL <3

[someguy724]

if we're under water how is there a fire? *fire goes out* soooooo c-c-c-c-ooollllld

[virtuallore]

The intonation of the "how do you sleep at night?" made me laugh out loud. Thanks

[EmmaOnATangent]

I feel the same way about plot impossibilities. That's one reason why Twilight makes me so mad. . . .

[mnemosyned]

Inaccuries?

[memsterk8]

lol

[chelute]

Snail, snail, snail, snail, snail, snail, snail.

[chelute]

Cuando despertó, el snail todavía estaba allí.

[austincaseys]

Fair enough. But at their core, things which are physically or biologically impossible *are* mathematically impossible. It's all math :)

[AnnieNonymus]

So there!

[iamjew101]

How *do* you sleep at night?

[SkLLzDaTkLLs]

you are such a babe

[SuperCanteloupe]

@vihartvihart it is not biologically impossible for a crab to be a whale's dad, because the whale could be his adopted daughter!

[PushkaCom]

There could be an underwater campfire - if the logs were infused with petrol

and the crab mother could have been impregnated artificially with a whale embryo (or Pearl could have been adopted)

And the pineapple house could have been genetically modified to be able to survive under water, just like sea weed does.

But the pineapple house would NEVER have non-spirally upward spirally things.

[RoMMeL1337ak47]

@PushkaCom "There could be an underwater campfire - if the logs were infused with petrol" how? i don't think C8H18 + 16(H2O) -----> 8(CO2) + 25(H2) would be very exothermic even if it could happen which i also doubt at normal temperatures. you could try to infuse the wood with TNT(2,4,6-trinitrotoluene), it can burn underwater due to it containing both the fuel(carbon and hydrogen) and the oxidizer(oxygen) within itself. another idea is to have the sea made of liquid O2... BOOOOM!! xD

[PushkaCom]

@RoMMeL1337ak47 ah, indeed ~ TNT is quite lool-like ~ 

[1206549]

@PushkaCom not with petrol but possibly gunpowder or something that has oxidizers mixed with the fuel.

[PushkaCom]

@1206549 ah, quite so ~ like TNT I'm told ~

[1206549]

@PushkaCom it probably won't look like fire we usually see though, it would probably look like burning embers

[LMNOP1214]

I want your snaillllll

[dolphin64575]

What's your snail's name?

[IOwnAnXbox360]

@dolphin64575 HIJINKS, I believe :D

[theangelsmelody]

Gary the snail!! :DD

[Jagonomic]

Were you on a radio broadcast??? @AlliTrippy is talking about a mathematician on twitter who talked about the pineapple misunderstanding :P

[MewEcks]

You ask how I sleep at night? I sleep like the a ~20-nary cartesian product of the set that holds all the integers, just my notation misses the cartesian operator.

[Golph246]

noooo.... the snail is missing a piece of his shell

[SrPiromaniaco]

Yeah, I've been having nightmares since I watched that video.

[ShinyIvyLeaves]

Wow, am I really the first one here? Cool!

Well, who cares about all of the other impossible things that Spongebob contains? They broke the rules of math! Shame on them!

[sth128]

Physical and biological impossibilities are just fictional manifestations of mathematical impossibilities. A pineapple under the sea was grown from impossible math to present impossible biology existing in impossible physics.

Then a snail strolled across the screen.

[OzzieScribbler]

@sth128 Glad somebody pointed that out.

Indeed, how do we sleep at night. :P

[IOwnAnXbox360]

Vihart, you're awesome!