An Intelligent Atheist Replies (Part 11 - Reasoning)

[smoothintentions]

This is good.

[thyran]

Are you saying that a single DNA-cell is alive?

[starfedrogue]

Not sure what you mean by "single DNA-cell".

Part of the problem with the origin of life is of course defining what "life" actually is. In fact this problem applies even if you are disregarding origins entirely; viruses for example are still a matter of significant contention.

However, abiogenesis posits a progression from non-living chemical systems to living cells of some description, so a solid definition of "life" would only really show where the transition occurred, not whether it did.

[Farfargryde]

Thank you for explaining it to him.

I'm glad you're not brainwashed. :-P

[TheDivineCellphone]

the wrong deductive arguement is wrong...

you should have used this one instead;

p1: no stones can fly

p2: you can't fly

C : you are a stone.

[starfedrogue]

By "wrong" do you mean the invalid argument or the unsound argument?

[TheDivineCellphone]

im not sure...

you say:

p1: all robomonkeys live on earth

p2: jazzyhap live on earth

C: jazzyhap is a robomonkey

which is false - beacuse it not implicit that jazzyhap should be a robomonkey.

[starfedrogue]

Yeah, the robomonkeys one was the unsound argument, as opposed to the invalid argument. At least one of the premises has to be untrue for the argument to be unsound which of course means that whether or not it implies the conclusion on its own, it's still wrong.

[charbroiledmonk1033]

ugh cud u make the first 3 minutes more boring.. I was like, "Grill him already!" lol good vid

[starfedrogue]

Yes. Yes I could!

[ArtificialCleverenAI]

Your first argument is faulty; additional qualifying parameters are required to make it fully precise. Some humans live on the International Space Station. Hehehe.

[starfedrogue]

It's sufficiently close, gravitationally-bound, and Earth-dependent for me. Next! :-p

[ArtificialCleverenAI]

Very shoddy. :)

[Timbul53525253]

The astronuats on the ISS *live* on earth, but *are currently living* on the ISS. You're right in that we need to specify parameters of what it means precisely to say person A lives in/on B but only a truly tragic nitpicker would point that out. Or answer it... :oP

[starfedrogue]

Space holiday! There, problem solved.

[Timbul53525253]

Perfect.

Well, *I'd* go on one.

If I had a few tens of millions of dollars spare...

[TatsujinSan]

"All humans live on earth"

you forgot space stations. heh heh.

[starfedrogue]

We don't have any that are outside the planet's gravity well and the staff are posted there temporarily.

[TatsujinSan]

Ah, so you're considering anything within earth's gravity well as being "on" earth, and to "live" somewhere as being an entire lifespan. ;)

[starfedrogue]

As a general rule. We wouldn't want Jazzyhap to spend his life and his savings on transatlantic flights just to prove me wrong.

[TatsujinSan]

It's a good video, I was only giving you a hard time for fun. I'm sure everyone gets the meaning of your example.

[ArtificialCleverenAI]

I'm a truly tragic nitpicker.

I wasn't being entirely serious, of course.

For another layer of pedantry: I live in my brain, which is positioned a single-digit number of feet above the surface of the ball we call Earth.

[FlowerPickingCow]

yey! he said new zealand :B

[stuckvanilla]

good video =)

[Zetimenvec]

hey man, there's a little white dot on your video. At first glance I thought it was a dead pixel or something on my end, but it's not. It's definitely on your end.

[starfedrogue]

Yeah, I think it's a dead pixel on my cam's sensor.

It's so annoying.

[Zetimenvec]

That sucks. You going to be looking for a new one? or are you gonna tough it out?

[starfedrogue]

Well, it's only a couple of months old so I might send it back.

[Leadman1989]

robomunky EPIK

[dualranger]

Jazzyhap is like the gift that keeps on taking. Good job in trying to reply to his strange logic Rogue.

[starfedrogue]

I keep expecting to see him throw an "Out of cheese" error.

[10phoenix01]

the first non pwnage video i have seen that pwned the shit out of someone lmao

science the ultimate pwnage tool

[naughtypagan72]

Did Ponder forget to feed Hex again? :p

[LittleTruckingBozo]

Wow in his video he does a lot of appealing to emotions. Anyway...He used the same old tired argument that life can't come from non-life. When they make that argument jst tell them to read this: "Cello, J; Paul, A; Wimmer, E, Chemical Synthesis of Poliovirus cDNA: Generation of Infectious Virus in the Absence of Natural Template, Science 2002 297: 1016-1018"

Where scientist created a virus from synthetic chemicals.

[starfedrogue]

Jazzmaster does not read cited references. He simply googles the title and reads back whatever he finds by way of reply.

See "An Intelligent Atheist Replies" Parts 3 & 4 for his very entertaining crash and burn using the argument from google searches.

[Gripen1974]

the crows in black and grey here in sweden if we see a black crow we need to call the ornithologic institute of sweden and report it in.

[snoggerforce76]

o wow, i'm back in sociology 101. lol

5 stars