@aBcbeautyy Unfortunately, Chows are one of the rare breeds that I warn parents about, because they're also known for not liking kids. We took him in knowing that there were *some* aggression problems, but not as bad as it was. I've rehabilitated several dogs in the past, but that was before my body gave out.
But no, it didn't prevent me from getting another dog. I already had another one, a Lab/Akita mix who is very loving and very needy. Got a Huskey/Sheppard mix, and they're very happy. :)
@Katatawnic yes iv seen it with my own eyes they are known for being aggressive but especially with kids , its a shame they are very pretty and im very happy to hear that it didnt stop you from getting more dogs :) i own 2 pitbulls and they are amazing :) good luck to you and your 2 wonderful members of the family :)
@Katatawnic no dog is going to do things again just cause they did it once any dog can be helped putting a dog down is a lazy thing dogs need leaders and dogs who are smart not aggressive cause when smart they think of what they can do and when in need of good exercise cause any herding dog SHEPARD needs atleast 1 hour a day and any dog needs exercise you can't just hope a dog will get better cause you took it in and loved it NO they want a leader from day one you deserved it gosh bad owner.
@AmericanPitbulls1 You apparently did not pay attention to what was said in the video, nor bother to read any comments. This was an extremely aggressive dog that we'd been working on rehabilitating for 3.5 years. Furthermore, also stated in comments (if not the video itself), I've rehabilitated many aggressive and other "problem" dogs throughout the last 30 years. He did NOT just do something once, he DID have a pack leader, plenty of exercise, etc. So take your judgements and shove them.
@AmericanPitbulls1 Speaking of laziness... have you ever heard of grammar, punctuation and capitalization? Look them up. You'll find that people will understand what you are trying to say when you put them to use.
@Katatawnic The dog was very unstable, unpredictable & a danger to you & your family. Therefore, you did the RESPONSIBLE thing by putting that animal to sleep. Other people especially the bleeding hearts & AR activists would either put these dogs in a shelter where they are going to live a long & miserable life in a cage OR be dumb enough to rehome them to a new family. There are SO much more better, stable dogs out there. WHY keep this one & risk your life? So again, you did the right thing.
We even tried to find a junk yard or mechanic shop, etc., that would want a security dog, because would have provided them much security, but not have been a danger to a "civilian." However, no one wanted/needed one at the time. That was the *only* situation in which I'd have placed him. I would *never* put an aggressive and unstable dog in someone else's home... that would make me responsible for anyone getting hurt.
@shaamex2 I'm sure there's been more than one; the amazing successes and complete turnarounds are what get aired 99.99% of the time. Ratings, ratings, ratings! ;)
However, I don't remember the name of the one that *was* aired.
This is the sort of thing I fear happening with my young dog. She was badly socialized, we got her at 4 months after having been taken away from her mother/litter and not socialized at all. I've trained dogs for 9 years, and this one... my own dog... I don't know if I can save her. I can't possibly give her away, it isn't safe, but I can't trust her either. I *know* I'm going to get bit. She hasn't trained well, she doesn't speak "dog" well either. Not sure what else to try...
also ur description says unprovoked....somethign like this doesnt happen out of nowhere without build up...and if your dog had these issues why did u decide to take the dog on a leisurly stroll in a bathrobe?
@DreamComeTrueK9 Last I checked, walking through my own private living room is not taking my dog on a leisurely stroll.
If you're so knowledgeable, then why make such assumptions, not to mention unnecessary sarcastic remarks? If you can take out the time to post three separate, judgmental comments, then you could have taken out the time to read previous comments and see that this was indeed an ongoing issue, before I took him in.
This video is almost two years old. Time to drop it already.
@Katatawnic I believed that you think that you didn't provoked him. But just with one wrong movement or look they can be provoked. Even the most peaceful dog can be provoked. That's why every dog owner should read about dog behavior and movement. I think it was a good choice to put him down because it can happen again. Thanks God that you had a thick bathrobe.!
sorry that this happened to you..but did u seriously put the dog to sleep instead of giving him to someone that knows what they are doing or hiring someone to show you what your are or arent doing correctly? If the dog is still around contact me...cant believe you would put the dog to sleep and not give him up
This is all you have to show for an "aggressive dog attack"?? A couple bruises? You've never seen the aftermath of a truly aggressive dog. I think dog is trying to tell you something, and you're deaf to his needs. GIVE up rehab, you don't have the skill or the knowledge. A few bruises, and a couple "scrapes" don't add up to a "mauling"....You ARE a drama queen, I feel sorry for the dog.
@phrannie You're the one using the word "mauling" (read: exaggerating), not me. I've seen maulings, and have never claimed that's what I endured. I'm not going around making asshole comments to others, so who's the drama queen here?
Go spread your insults and hate elsewhere. It's not welcome on my channel.
In case you're unable to grasp conversational statements... go fuck yourself.
You are the one being a drama queen. "When an Aggressive Dog Can't be Rehabilitated" is the title of the freakin video. I see nothing here that would indicate a dog that cannot be rehabilitated. You are a drama queen and you need to remove this video. There isn't a person alive who gives a shit about your tiny little leg bruises. get a life trailer woman.
@phrannie You are a very ignornant person. You're also a hypocrite. The drama queen here is you. I watched this video a couple of times after reading your post and I still can't find her using the word "mauling." If you're going to be a hater, do it right.
@spasquar Give me a break. That's just like saying every human can be rehabilitated. Ever heard of Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez, et al? Just like some people don't get all better with love and discipline, so it will be with dogs. Or do you blame their victims as well?
@Katatawnic dont ix dogs with humans...2 totally different beings...thats mistake number 1 and mistake number 2 is thinking that love is somethign that will rehabilitate a dog
Dogs need space too. POSSITIVE dog training works best with all breeds, especially when they are pups because that is when they learn the most. It's a shame that owners don't know how to raise a dog properly, then they hand it off when they tire of it. I'm sorry you got bit. That's unfair for you and the dog. I rescued a puppy mill puppy, who was later abused. It's hard on both of us that she went through that. Luckily, I retrained her not to be aggressive towards food and people.
Victoria Stilwell trains on aggressive dog behavior with positive methods, and helps explain the breed's needs and temperment. Dogs aren't all the same in temperment, and some need more care than others. People need to research breeds before purchasing them. Cor, that looks painful! :( You're a good person to take the dog in though, rather than buy one from a breeder.
I got him when he was 2.5 yrs. The people I got him from didn't say a word about his aggression; they simply said he was "too wild" (he was a jumper, etc.; always locked in the yard or a cage will make an excited dog, DUH!) for them. I worked with him for 3.5 years. I've since seen that their M.O. is to give their dogs away when they can't deal anymore. Constantly! They have no idea how to train or handle dogs; their puppy play encourages aggressiveness and I can't get them to understand this.
Ugh, I hate that. It'd be nice if people got a puppy training video when they get the dog, or at least have a book about the dog so they know what they are getting into. There are way too many dogs in my neighborhood who don't get enough attention. Geez. I can't imagine how much that would hurt. I wince every time I see your video. Sorry it had to be that way.
@Katatawnic By "constantly" do you mean that you know that they've had other dogs and they just give them away when the behaviors they've created are too much? If so, then... Jesus.
This is terrible; I've never seen such a vivid bruise. Almost like someone took a purple marker and just colored it in. I'm very sorry you have to put him down. :/
@MissusMockingbird Yes, that's unfortunately what I meant. I can't keep up with what dogs they now have or don't have. I swear it changes every time I see them. :(
My mom's Bullmastiff that we rescued had to be put down when it was only 3 years old. Vet said he had a brain tumor. We noticed that at first it was like once every 2 months or so where he would just all of a sudden snap. Where he would attack and then you'd calm him down and he wouldn't realize what just happened. Well when my dad layed in bed with him. Something he did every night, the dog attacked him and that's when they decided he's too unpredictable. So they put him down. Brain tumor.
He was a CERTIFIED THERAPY DOG and was a very well behaved dog. He was just too much of a risk, with NOT knowing when he would just suddenly attack. You COULDN'T predict it. We couldn't take the chance with having him around kids, family etc.... It was really a shame. If it wasn't for that stupid brain tumor, he would have been so perfect. I cherish the little time he had with us and glad that we saved him when no one else would take him at 9months old and 1 eye. I miss that dog.
Oh my, I'm sorry... Sometimes dogs just... Snap. It could be anything.
My mother is a Parson Russell-breeder, and a month ago, her only male dog, who was the sweetest and friendliest one of them all, suddenly attacked my little sister and left horrible marks on her legs. She fled into the bathroom, and the dog kept viciously attacking the door for 20 minutes until my mom came home. The door is destroyed - he basically gnawed a huge hole in it. He could've had a brain-tumor or something...
Being bitten can be very traumatic, and i apologize for your pup. I work with alot of aggressives and have been bitten some many times i lost count over 20. Many punctures and stitches and every finger has been broken. I love my job though. I'm just wondering what you have done to rehab your boy? eye contact and your walking speed could have had something to do with it. But i'm not sure of what exactly happened. I know it seems like we did nothing to provoke, but its about body language
What kind of dog was that?? if you say the robe saved you, it couldn't have been that big of a dog. Just curios, I am sorry it happened to you, I have worked with aggressive dogs for ten years, just recently got my first real bite, 17 stitches in the face, and the pekingnese took a peice of my lip so I can relate.. Hope you are feeling better emotionally..
Husky/Shepard/Chow, and yes, he was huge. Although small breeds are most often more vicious when attacking. I didn't say anything "saved" me aside from having fast reflexes. The thickness of the robe helped to *cushion* some of it. This left permanent scars, physically as well as emotionally. I'm doing better in both aspects, although it still breaks my heart that he couldn't be rehabilitated.
But WOW.... 17 stitches and a piece of your lip?! I hope you recover soon! :)
ahh I see.. them bruices are pretty nasty.. and yeah I recovered good I have healed up quickly.. Im just glad it wasn't Midnight that's on my page that did it, he would have taken the whole head.. both huskies and chows can in average be hard to work with and then a mix.. I can see why it didn't work. I feel sorry for you, it's never easy.. You have my sympathies..
What made him hardest to work with was his upbringing. He wasn't abused, but their games encouraged him to not only be aggressive, but especially to only respect men. And the previous owners didn't say a word about HOW aggressive he was until after the attack and all the work I did 3.5 years prior! People don't understand many of the games they play teaches dogs aggression.
I've a Husky/Shepard/Chow pup (coincidence, really! lol), and she's a sweetheart. No aggression games in her future! ;)
Sorry to hear about what happened to you; I've personally never had any dog attack me but I've had a cat scratch me and give me an infection; not very pleasant, haha.
I've got two pit bulls, they're adorable and I love them more then words could explain, and I hate it when people blame the breed.
Obviously, something happened to Tama for her to act the way that she did. I'm not saying you're a bad dog owner; dogs can't be predicted. Never trust a dog.
@AmyAndMorrigansCrazy I wouldn't say "never" trust a dog. There are some dogs that I trust completely with me. Like my AmStaff and my brother's Pit-Bulls and DEFINITELY MY MOM'S ENGLISH MASTIFF. Also trust my cousin's Pug. They are just a few that I COMPLETELY TRUST. I have no worries with them. So I don't know, just your "NEVER TRUST A DOG" statement bothered me. You can trust a dog. Trust a dog more than human. A dog won't EVER lie to you.
Sorry to see that this happened to you. Thankfully you got out of this encounter without any serious, permanent damage.
What kind of dog is it?
Regardless of the breed, if he's attacking you unprovoked, and he's been doing this off and on for three and half years, he most likely cannot be rehabilitated. Putting him down is a tough decision, but it's better than taking the risk of him seriously hurting you or anyone else. I'd probably do the same thing in your shoes if I had to.
thisisgreat9859: "ooohhh kayy wow... thats just a bruise, toughen up"
1. This isn't about bruises. It's about dogs that attack no matter how much training and rehabilitation has been done.
2. Needing physical therapy 3-4 times a week does not "just a bruise" make.
3. When you're rendered *immobile* for weeks after +/- 30 seconds of battle with a large & powerful dog from whom you can't defend yourself, we'll see how much YOU toughen up.
No, people who beat on animals get a little slap on the wrist, which is screwed.
Read this vid's comments & learn the history before condemning. 3.5 yrs. of unprovoked threatening and attacking people is more than enough to show that he is DANGEROUS, and unfortunately the court/prison system for dogs is euthanasia.
We gave him 3.5 more yrs. of life AND love than anyone else was willing to give. Take your judgements to the authorities/SPCA, not me.
My heart goes out to you (re: your injuries).... But Think positive..... and in that very spirit, let me say that you've got beautiful legs. ---- Best wishes, from Tom in Florida
I've always been opposed to the kind of people who endlessly drone on about how all dogs should be muzzled, and dangerous dogs shouldn't be allowed to be kept, but, it's incidents like this that have me leaning to the other side.
Yeah, I get extremely red under the collar over people who put down dogs at the slightest "misbehavior" without bothering to address the underlying issues first. RE: muzzles, Tama's only worn those at the vet, because he HATES being picked up and WILL bite over that, and of course the vet & staff need to protect themselves. :)
The only time I "condone" putting a dog down is extreme "red zone" cases that can't be rehabilitated. Tama's the first I've personally encountered as such an extreme.
I've opposed enforced muzzles, largely for their impracticality, plus putting a muzzle on some dogs sure is a fucking task and a half, and would be pretty ineffective.
And, I agree that ONLY when a all attempts at rehabilitating a dog appear to be futile, that it's wise to actually put a dog down.
At first this vid was private, for Tom only. But I decided to make it public for "awareness" so to speak.... although "loving discipline" can work wonders to rehabilitate aggressive dogs, sometimes the underlying issues just can't be fixed.
And NO ONE should EVER trust a dog 100%, no matter how gentle s/he is. We love our "babies" so much that we often forget they are not humans, but animals with instincts that are always there no matter how "human" they may behave.
Sorry but it's "okay" to trust a dog 100% I trust my AmStaff dog 100%, I trust my brothers pit bulls 100%, I trust my cousin's pug 100%. I trust my mom's English Mastiff 100%. I've always had a special bond with dogs, and those dogs I definitely trust 100%.
Oh, thanks. I adopted a Chow/Golden Retriever mix named we re-named Bailey (from Abe) years ago. He looked like a puppy golden retriever. He had been severly beaten and that combined with the protective nature of a chow led to problems as he got old and his senses began to go. I loved that dog and still do, think about him so much as he bonded to me. As much as I loved him, I would probably not get a Chow mix again because of their traits---unless I lived where there were no kids. I hope u r ok!
wow all I can say is most people would have given up at not even a year. Bravo to you for having the heart to try. I hate to see any animal put down but in this case I totally agree. He is dangerous and what happens if its not a thick bathrobe and you do fall down. Your right and I hope you don't feel bad about having to do what you have to. Wow 3.5 yrs though thats a long time to try.
I hope you feel a little better soon in all ways. Physically, emotionally etc. Take care--Jammie
I do feel bad about it, but for about three years there's always been a part of me that knew this would happen sooner or later, whether to me or someone else. 3.5 years is indeed a long time. I just couldn't give up hope, but I really should have sooner because I *know* dogs.
We'll still always get rescues, but from now on they'll be VERY young puppies so there's no wondering about how they were raised before we get them. I'm just too sick/weak to rehabilitate anymore.
Oh my goodness!!! Not your baby! Your dogs are like your children. Not only I'm sure was it scary, but this dog that you've loved and tried to help. Oh deary!
Sadly, he's been Michael's baby more so than mine. (Michael's always been "God" to Tama, literally!) The plan was that when Tom gets home from Iraq and Michael's ready to move on, he was going to take Tama with him. But that's no longer an alternative. :(
WHOA! Holy shit! I'm so sorry for you, wicked injuries. Well you gave Tama a good chance anyway, and a good 3 years plus that he wouldn't have had otherwise. There must have been a reason for his aggression, but sadly these kind of dogs have little chance in a normal setting. Get well, and don't reproach yourself over it, you did the best you could, better than most. '-'
Yes, I did the best I could. Tama's the only dog I haven't been able to rehabilitate. My dad was a highly coveted obedience/hunting dog trainer & I learned from one of the best; aside from his hunters all our dogs were rescues. Tama's aggression did ease up, but didn't quite stop. A few months ago it increased again. I've trying to find a home for him w/lots of land so he could be as territorial as he wants, to no avail. As much as it hurts, I have to protect any future victim from him. :(
Indeed! Well, the physical pain caught up big time yesterday morning, which is why I had to go to my physical therapy doc, but it helped a lot and now our jacuzzi (my parents-in-law just gave us theirs for me to have in-home therapy) and light exercise should be enough to heal. But I cried a LOT the day/night it happened, and it was most definitely a "broken heart" kind of thing. Even last night I was very emotional and cried easily, but so far today I'm doing a bit better. :)
I could be a LOT worse off than I am, but I'm not all that "OK" either; I'm still shaken. He's a VERY large & powerful dog, and I couldn't really fight him off; only enough to get away from him and out of the house. My son had JUST left for the store down the street, and he heard me whistle for him. He got bit really bad on his wrist (Tama's teeth went all the way to his bone) just restraining and getting him to the back yard. He's OK though; his wrist is sore but it's already healing well.
what kind of dog was it ?
aBcbeautyy 7 months ago
@aBcbeautyy Huskey/Sheppard/Chow.
Katatawnic 6 months ago
@Katatawnic i heard that chows are very aggressive im sorry to hear of this hope this wont stop you from getting another dog
aBcbeautyy 6 months ago
@aBcbeautyy Unfortunately, Chows are one of the rare breeds that I warn parents about, because they're also known for not liking kids. We took him in knowing that there were *some* aggression problems, but not as bad as it was. I've rehabilitated several dogs in the past, but that was before my body gave out.
But no, it didn't prevent me from getting another dog. I already had another one, a Lab/Akita mix who is very loving and very needy. Got a Huskey/Sheppard mix, and they're very happy. :)
Katatawnic 6 months ago
@Katatawnic yes iv seen it with my own eyes they are known for being aggressive but especially with kids , its a shame they are very pretty and im very happy to hear that it didnt stop you from getting more dogs :) i own 2 pitbulls and they are amazing :) good luck to you and your 2 wonderful members of the family :)
aBcbeautyy 6 months ago
@aBcbeautyy Thank you. Best of luck to you, too. :)
Katatawnic 6 months ago
@Katatawnic no dog is going to do things again just cause they did it once any dog can be helped putting a dog down is a lazy thing dogs need leaders and dogs who are smart not aggressive cause when smart they think of what they can do and when in need of good exercise cause any herding dog SHEPARD needs atleast 1 hour a day and any dog needs exercise you can't just hope a dog will get better cause you took it in and loved it NO they want a leader from day one you deserved it gosh bad owner.
AmericanPitbulls1 3 months ago
@AmericanPitbulls1 You apparently did not pay attention to what was said in the video, nor bother to read any comments. This was an extremely aggressive dog that we'd been working on rehabilitating for 3.5 years. Furthermore, also stated in comments (if not the video itself), I've rehabilitated many aggressive and other "problem" dogs throughout the last 30 years. He did NOT just do something once, he DID have a pack leader, plenty of exercise, etc. So take your judgements and shove them.
Katatawnic 3 months ago
@AmericanPitbulls1 Speaking of laziness... have you ever heard of grammar, punctuation and capitalization? Look them up. You'll find that people will understand what you are trying to say when you put them to use.
Katatawnic 3 months ago
You did the right thing by putting that dog down.
AmberFaithChloe 9 months ago 4
@AmberFaithChloe Wow, someone NOT telling me what a rotten person I was for making a decision about my safety and that of others?! I am floored!
Seriously though, thank you for your feedback. As horrible as it felt, we knew that we made the right decision in the long run. :)
Katatawnic 9 months ago
@Katatawnic The dog was very unstable, unpredictable & a danger to you & your family. Therefore, you did the RESPONSIBLE thing by putting that animal to sleep. Other people especially the bleeding hearts & AR activists would either put these dogs in a shelter where they are going to live a long & miserable life in a cage OR be dumb enough to rehome them to a new family. There are SO much more better, stable dogs out there. WHY keep this one & risk your life? So again, you did the right thing.
AmberFaithChloe 9 months ago 4
@AmberFaithChloe Exactly. :)
We even tried to find a junk yard or mechanic shop, etc., that would want a security dog, because would have provided them much security, but not have been a danger to a "civilian." However, no one wanted/needed one at the time. That was the *only* situation in which I'd have placed him. I would *never* put an aggressive and unstable dog in someone else's home... that would make me responsible for anyone getting hurt.
I love animals, but am not an AR activist.
Katatawnic 9 months ago
Did anyone ever name the dog they claimed even the "Dog Whisperer" had worked with had to be put down? I was curious. Shaamex1
shaamex2 1 year ago
@shaamex2 I'm sure there's been more than one; the amazing successes and complete turnarounds are what get aired 99.99% of the time. Ratings, ratings, ratings! ;)
However, I don't remember the name of the one that *was* aired.
Katatawnic 1 year ago
This is the sort of thing I fear happening with my young dog. She was badly socialized, we got her at 4 months after having been taken away from her mother/litter and not socialized at all. I've trained dogs for 9 years, and this one... my own dog... I don't know if I can save her. I can't possibly give her away, it isn't safe, but I can't trust her either. I *know* I'm going to get bit. She hasn't trained well, she doesn't speak "dog" well either. Not sure what else to try...
DeadlyChinchilla 1 year ago
also ur description says unprovoked....somethign like this doesnt happen out of nowhere without build up...and if your dog had these issues why did u decide to take the dog on a leisurly stroll in a bathrobe?
DreamComeTrueK9 1 year ago
@DreamComeTrueK9 Last I checked, walking through my own private living room is not taking my dog on a leisurely stroll.
If you're so knowledgeable, then why make such assumptions, not to mention unnecessary sarcastic remarks? If you can take out the time to post three separate, judgmental comments, then you could have taken out the time to read previous comments and see that this was indeed an ongoing issue, before I took him in.
This video is almost two years old. Time to drop it already.
Katatawnic 1 year ago
@Katatawnic I believed that you think that you didn't provoked him. But just with one wrong movement or look they can be provoked. Even the most peaceful dog can be provoked. That's why every dog owner should read about dog behavior and movement. I think it was a good choice to put him down because it can happen again. Thanks God that you had a thick bathrobe.!
sheilablessed1304 1 year ago
sorry that this happened to you..but did u seriously put the dog to sleep instead of giving him to someone that knows what they are doing or hiring someone to show you what your are or arent doing correctly? If the dog is still around contact me...cant believe you would put the dog to sleep and not give him up
DreamComeTrueK9 1 year ago
@spasquar 'ahem'.......WRONG
Soldier68wCA 1 year ago 3
This is all you have to show for an "aggressive dog attack"?? A couple bruises? You've never seen the aftermath of a truly aggressive dog. I think dog is trying to tell you something, and you're deaf to his needs. GIVE up rehab, you don't have the skill or the knowledge. A few bruises, and a couple "scrapes" don't add up to a "mauling"....You ARE a drama queen, I feel sorry for the dog.
phrannie 1 year ago
@phrannie You're the one using the word "mauling" (read: exaggerating), not me. I've seen maulings, and have never claimed that's what I endured. I'm not going around making asshole comments to others, so who's the drama queen here?
Go spread your insults and hate elsewhere. It's not welcome on my channel.
In case you're unable to grasp conversational statements... go fuck yourself.
Katatawnic 1 year ago
@Katatawnic
You are the one being a drama queen. "When an Aggressive Dog Can't be Rehabilitated" is the title of the freakin video. I see nothing here that would indicate a dog that cannot be rehabilitated. You are a drama queen and you need to remove this video. There isn't a person alive who gives a shit about your tiny little leg bruises. get a life trailer woman.
Bemuse 1 year ago
@Bemuse
Your alcoholic husband is probably the one who caused the damage anyway. Stop trying to blame it on the dog.
Bemuse 1 year ago
@phrannie You are a very ignornant person. You're also a hypocrite. The drama queen here is you. I watched this video a couple of times after reading your post and I still can't find her using the word "mauling." If you're going to be a hater, do it right.
Soldier68wCA 1 year ago 4
@spasquar BS.... even the dog whisperer had a case where the dog was too disturb and had to be put down.
heavenscentmmj 1 year ago 4
@heavenscentmmj Some people think they know everything, and have the intense need to "share" their vast knowledge with others. ;)
Katatawnic 1 year ago
@spasquar Give me a break. That's just like saying every human can be rehabilitated. Ever heard of Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez, et al? Just like some people don't get all better with love and discipline, so it will be with dogs. Or do you blame their victims as well?
Not every dog attack is the human's fault.
Katatawnic 1 year ago
@Katatawnic dont ix dogs with humans...2 totally different beings...thats mistake number 1 and mistake number 2 is thinking that love is somethign that will rehabilitate a dog
DreamComeTrueK9 1 year ago
Dogs need space too. POSSITIVE dog training works best with all breeds, especially when they are pups because that is when they learn the most. It's a shame that owners don't know how to raise a dog properly, then they hand it off when they tire of it. I'm sorry you got bit. That's unfair for you and the dog. I rescued a puppy mill puppy, who was later abused. It's hard on both of us that she went through that. Luckily, I retrained her not to be aggressive towards food and people.
Silvia1826 1 year ago
Victoria Stilwell trains on aggressive dog behavior with positive methods, and helps explain the breed's needs and temperment. Dogs aren't all the same in temperment, and some need more care than others. People need to research breeds before purchasing them. Cor, that looks painful! :( You're a good person to take the dog in though, rather than buy one from a breeder.
Silvia1826 1 year ago
I got him when he was 2.5 yrs. The people I got him from didn't say a word about his aggression; they simply said he was "too wild" (he was a jumper, etc.; always locked in the yard or a cage will make an excited dog, DUH!) for them. I worked with him for 3.5 years. I've since seen that their M.O. is to give their dogs away when they can't deal anymore. Constantly! They have no idea how to train or handle dogs; their puppy play encourages aggressiveness and I can't get them to understand this.
Katatawnic 1 year ago
@Katatawnic
Ugh, I hate that. It'd be nice if people got a puppy training video when they get the dog, or at least have a book about the dog so they know what they are getting into. There are way too many dogs in my neighborhood who don't get enough attention. Geez. I can't imagine how much that would hurt. I wince every time I see your video. Sorry it had to be that way.
Silvia1826 1 year ago
@Katatawnic By "constantly" do you mean that you know that they've had other dogs and they just give them away when the behaviors they've created are too much? If so, then... Jesus.
This is terrible; I've never seen such a vivid bruise. Almost like someone took a purple marker and just colored it in. I'm very sorry you have to put him down. :/
MissusMockingbird 1 year ago
@MissusMockingbird Yes, that's unfortunately what I meant. I can't keep up with what dogs they now have or don't have. I swear it changes every time I see them. :(
Katatawnic 1 year ago
That dog needs is ass kicked every time it steps out of line !!
7777dmith7777 2 years ago
My mom's Bullmastiff that we rescued had to be put down when it was only 3 years old. Vet said he had a brain tumor. We noticed that at first it was like once every 2 months or so where he would just all of a sudden snap. Where he would attack and then you'd calm him down and he wouldn't realize what just happened. Well when my dad layed in bed with him. Something he did every night, the dog attacked him and that's when they decided he's too unpredictable. So they put him down. Brain tumor.
JohnnyRu131 2 years ago
He was a CERTIFIED THERAPY DOG and was a very well behaved dog. He was just too much of a risk, with NOT knowing when he would just suddenly attack. You COULDN'T predict it. We couldn't take the chance with having him around kids, family etc.... It was really a shame. If it wasn't for that stupid brain tumor, he would have been so perfect. I cherish the little time he had with us and glad that we saved him when no one else would take him at 9months old and 1 eye. I miss that dog.
JohnnyRu131 2 years ago
It went from every 2 months, to every month to every week and that's when it was time to take him in.
JohnnyRu131 2 years ago
Oh my, I'm sorry... Sometimes dogs just... Snap. It could be anything.
My mother is a Parson Russell-breeder, and a month ago, her only male dog, who was the sweetest and friendliest one of them all, suddenly attacked my little sister and left horrible marks on her legs. She fled into the bathroom, and the dog kept viciously attacking the door for 20 minutes until my mom came home. The door is destroyed - he basically gnawed a huge hole in it. He could've had a brain-tumor or something...
Waribiki 2 years ago
Being bitten can be very traumatic, and i apologize for your pup. I work with alot of aggressives and have been bitten some many times i lost count over 20. Many punctures and stitches and every finger has been broken. I love my job though. I'm just wondering what you have done to rehab your boy? eye contact and your walking speed could have had something to do with it. But i'm not sure of what exactly happened. I know it seems like we did nothing to provoke, but its about body language
jesusakajesse423 2 years ago
What kind of dog was that?? if you say the robe saved you, it couldn't have been that big of a dog. Just curios, I am sorry it happened to you, I have worked with aggressive dogs for ten years, just recently got my first real bite, 17 stitches in the face, and the pekingnese took a peice of my lip so I can relate.. Hope you are feeling better emotionally..
ravendarknessa 2 years ago
Husky/Shepard/Chow, and yes, he was huge. Although small breeds are most often more vicious when attacking. I didn't say anything "saved" me aside from having fast reflexes. The thickness of the robe helped to *cushion* some of it. This left permanent scars, physically as well as emotionally. I'm doing better in both aspects, although it still breaks my heart that he couldn't be rehabilitated.
But WOW.... 17 stitches and a piece of your lip?! I hope you recover soon! :)
Katatawnic 2 years ago
ahh I see.. them bruices are pretty nasty.. and yeah I recovered good I have healed up quickly.. Im just glad it wasn't Midnight that's on my page that did it, he would have taken the whole head.. both huskies and chows can in average be hard to work with and then a mix.. I can see why it didn't work. I feel sorry for you, it's never easy.. You have my sympathies..
ravendarknessa 2 years ago
What made him hardest to work with was his upbringing. He wasn't abused, but their games encouraged him to not only be aggressive, but especially to only respect men. And the previous owners didn't say a word about HOW aggressive he was until after the attack and all the work I did 3.5 years prior! People don't understand many of the games they play teaches dogs aggression.
I've a Husky/Shepard/Chow pup (coincidence, really! lol), and she's a sweetheart. No aggression games in her future! ;)
Katatawnic 2 years ago
Sorry for you.
MetaKittie 2 years ago
wow...what was wrong with him?
sorry bout ur dog :(
SnAkEaTeR1995 2 years ago
THREE LETTERS...
WOW!
YoungReesy 2 years ago
Sorry to hear about what happened to you; I've personally never had any dog attack me but I've had a cat scratch me and give me an infection; not very pleasant, haha.
I've got two pit bulls, they're adorable and I love them more then words could explain, and I hate it when people blame the breed.
Obviously, something happened to Tama for her to act the way that she did. I'm not saying you're a bad dog owner; dogs can't be predicted. Never trust a dog.
AmyAndMorrigansCrazy 2 years ago
@AmyAndMorrigansCrazy I wouldn't say "never" trust a dog. There are some dogs that I trust completely with me. Like my AmStaff and my brother's Pit-Bulls and DEFINITELY MY MOM'S ENGLISH MASTIFF. Also trust my cousin's Pug. They are just a few that I COMPLETELY TRUST. I have no worries with them. So I don't know, just your "NEVER TRUST A DOG" statement bothered me. You can trust a dog. Trust a dog more than human. A dog won't EVER lie to you.
JohnnyRu131 2 years ago
OMG Im just now watchin this, glad your ok gosh Im so sorry
Bestrong4 2 years ago
What breed of dog was it?
FuckFuck80200 2 years ago
He was a Belgian Shepard, Border Collie, and Chow mix.
Katatawnic 2 years ago
Sorry to see that this happened to you. Thankfully you got out of this encounter without any serious, permanent damage.
What kind of dog is it?
Regardless of the breed, if he's attacking you unprovoked, and he's been doing this off and on for three and half years, he most likely cannot be rehabilitated. Putting him down is a tough decision, but it's better than taking the risk of him seriously hurting you or anyone else. I'd probably do the same thing in your shoes if I had to.
TheKingOfRuckus 2 years ago
He was a Belgian Shepard, Border Collie, and Chow mix.
It was indeed a very tough decision, but I couldn't and would't risk him hurting me OR anyone else again. Thanks! :)
Katatawnic 2 years ago
ooohhh kayy wow... thats just a bruise, toughen up.
thisisgreat9859 2 years ago
thisisgreat9859: "ooohhh kayy wow... thats just a bruise, toughen up"
1. This isn't about bruises. It's about dogs that attack no matter how much training and rehabilitation has been done.
2. Needing physical therapy 3-4 times a week does not "just a bruise" make.
3. When you're rendered *immobile* for weeks after +/- 30 seconds of battle with a large & powerful dog from whom you can't defend yourself, we'll see how much YOU toughen up.
So, you've never been injured before, huh? Moron.
Katatawnic 2 years ago
so if you see a person beeting the shit out of a dogs do you see the guys get put to sleep, no
MLGblood 2 years ago
No, people who beat on animals get a little slap on the wrist, which is screwed.
Read this vid's comments & learn the history before condemning. 3.5 yrs. of unprovoked threatening and attacking people is more than enough to show that he is DANGEROUS, and unfortunately the court/prison system for dogs is euthanasia.
We gave him 3.5 more yrs. of life AND love than anyone else was willing to give. Take your judgements to the authorities/SPCA, not me.
Katatawnic 2 years ago
My heart goes out to you (re: your injuries).... But Think positive..... and in that very spirit, let me say that you've got beautiful legs. ---- Best wishes, from Tom in Florida
BeHappy2day 2 years ago
Omg, Kat! I'm so sorry - everything looks so painful - especially your arm. I hope you'll be okay.
ladysidi 2 years ago
Holy fucking shit...that looks painful
I've always been opposed to the kind of people who endlessly drone on about how all dogs should be muzzled, and dangerous dogs shouldn't be allowed to be kept, but, it's incidents like this that have me leaning to the other side.
OnyxMage 3 years ago
Dogs make good steak.
TiradeFaction 3 years ago
Oh, that's something I'll be keeping my eye out for.
OnyxMage 3 years ago
You better Chewie.
TiradeFaction 3 years ago
Ah, I was missing that nickname for me, actually. Glad it's still in circulation ;)
OnyxMage 3 years ago
I wouldn't know, I've never had dog steak before. ;p
Katatawnic 3 years ago
They're pretty good, though a bit gamey.
TiradeFaction 3 years ago
Yeah, I get extremely red under the collar over people who put down dogs at the slightest "misbehavior" without bothering to address the underlying issues first. RE: muzzles, Tama's only worn those at the vet, because he HATES being picked up and WILL bite over that, and of course the vet & staff need to protect themselves. :)
The only time I "condone" putting a dog down is extreme "red zone" cases that can't be rehabilitated. Tama's the first I've personally encountered as such an extreme.
Katatawnic 3 years ago
I've opposed enforced muzzles, largely for their impracticality, plus putting a muzzle on some dogs sure is a fucking task and a half, and would be pretty ineffective.
And, I agree that ONLY when a all attempts at rehabilitating a dog appear to be futile, that it's wise to actually put a dog down.
OnyxMage 3 years ago
Wow kat, i am sorry to hear.
rguy84 3 years ago
Thank you. :)
At first this vid was private, for Tom only. But I decided to make it public for "awareness" so to speak.... although "loving discipline" can work wonders to rehabilitate aggressive dogs, sometimes the underlying issues just can't be fixed.
And NO ONE should EVER trust a dog 100%, no matter how gentle s/he is. We love our "babies" so much that we often forget they are not humans, but animals with instincts that are always there no matter how "human" they may behave.
Katatawnic 3 years ago
Sorry but it's "okay" to trust a dog 100% I trust my AmStaff dog 100%, I trust my brothers pit bulls 100%, I trust my cousin's pug 100%. I trust my mom's English Mastiff 100%. I've always had a special bond with dogs, and those dogs I definitely trust 100%.
JohnnyRu131 2 years ago
What type of dog is Tama? You poor thing.
pinkpornstar2 3 years ago
He's the large one in this video: watch?v=heXP8m63rSs
Border Collie, Belgium Shepard, & Chow.
Katatawnic 3 years ago
Oh, thanks. I adopted a Chow/Golden Retriever mix named we re-named Bailey (from Abe) years ago. He looked like a puppy golden retriever. He had been severly beaten and that combined with the protective nature of a chow led to problems as he got old and his senses began to go. I loved that dog and still do, think about him so much as he bonded to me. As much as I loved him, I would probably not get a Chow mix again because of their traits---unless I lived where there were no kids. I hope u r ok!
pinkpornstar2 3 years ago
wow all I can say is most people would have given up at not even a year. Bravo to you for having the heart to try. I hate to see any animal put down but in this case I totally agree. He is dangerous and what happens if its not a thick bathrobe and you do fall down. Your right and I hope you don't feel bad about having to do what you have to. Wow 3.5 yrs though thats a long time to try.
I hope you feel a little better soon in all ways. Physically, emotionally etc. Take care--Jammie
JadedIllusions27 3 years ago
Thanks, Jammie. :)
I do feel bad about it, but for about three years there's always been a part of me that knew this would happen sooner or later, whether to me or someone else. 3.5 years is indeed a long time. I just couldn't give up hope, but I really should have sooner because I *know* dogs.
We'll still always get rescues, but from now on they'll be VERY young puppies so there's no wondering about how they were raised before we get them. I'm just too sick/weak to rehabilitate anymore.
Katatawnic 3 years ago
Oh my goodness!!! Not your baby! Your dogs are like your children. Not only I'm sure was it scary, but this dog that you've loved and tried to help. Oh deary!
pixelatedxdeath 3 years ago
Sadly, he's been Michael's baby more so than mine. (Michael's always been "God" to Tama, literally!) The plan was that when Tom gets home from Iraq and Michael's ready to move on, he was going to take Tama with him. But that's no longer an alternative. :(
Call me!!! <3
Katatawnic 3 years ago
DOH! I meant "sadly" for Michael's losing Tama, not "sadly" that Tama took to Michael more than Tom and me. LOL!
Katatawnic 3 years ago
*hugs* I understand I sent ya a text message had to run an errand after work and just got in.
pixelatedxdeath 3 years ago
WHOA! Holy shit! I'm so sorry for you, wicked injuries. Well you gave Tama a good chance anyway, and a good 3 years plus that he wouldn't have had otherwise. There must have been a reason for his aggression, but sadly these kind of dogs have little chance in a normal setting. Get well, and don't reproach yourself over it, you did the best you could, better than most. '-'
noliketoregister 3 years ago
Yes, I did the best I could. Tama's the only dog I haven't been able to rehabilitate. My dad was a highly coveted obedience/hunting dog trainer & I learned from one of the best; aside from his hunters all our dogs were rescues. Tama's aggression did ease up, but didn't quite stop. A few months ago it increased again. I've trying to find a home for him w/lots of land so he could be as territorial as he wants, to no avail. As much as it hurts, I have to protect any future victim from him. :(
Katatawnic 3 years ago
wow! im so sorry this happened to you, im sure the pain of your own baby attacking you hurts more then the physical pain!
NragedXX 3 years ago
Indeed! Well, the physical pain caught up big time yesterday morning, which is why I had to go to my physical therapy doc, but it helped a lot and now our jacuzzi (my parents-in-law just gave us theirs for me to have in-home therapy) and light exercise should be enough to heal. But I cried a LOT the day/night it happened, and it was most definitely a "broken heart" kind of thing. Even last night I was very emotional and cried easily, but so far today I'm doing a bit better. :)
Katatawnic 3 years ago
Ouch.
TiradeFaction 3 years ago
O_O
Oh, no! Are you okay!?
reflectionist 3 years ago
I could be a LOT worse off than I am, but I'm not all that "OK" either; I'm still shaken. He's a VERY large & powerful dog, and I couldn't really fight him off; only enough to get away from him and out of the house. My son had JUST left for the store down the street, and he heard me whistle for him. He got bit really bad on his wrist (Tama's teeth went all the way to his bone) just restraining and getting him to the back yard. He's OK though; his wrist is sore but it's already healing well.
Katatawnic 3 years ago