For all of yas who don't think that the gov/corps lie, listen to this woman. She was deceived all through the process, and the extent of the deceit was enormous. All these folks wanted was a job, workers are treated as if they are dogs.
@ripperduck If the job is so awful, why would you work at the job?
Welcome to reality. First of all, don't treat your company as a person - it's a thing. You are trading time for value. You are a commodity it, and it's a commodity to you.
Don't feel guilt about leaving your company, don't feel you owe it anything, that's all in illusion because the companies doesn't feel anything for you. It's a business.
If you're suckered, that's too bad, you've been suckered. Oh well.
@fuzzywzhe Screw that bullshit! Depending on what you're looking at the degree of corporate malfeasance is huge, from financial statement lies to massive environmental destruction, the level of corp crime is enormous. Attitudes such as your is what spurs this crap because what you preach is apathy. If you want to get reamed without the cream then bend over. But don't be an ahole and think that everyone else is gonna play dead.
@fuzzywzhe So you won't but someone in a foreign nation will. This was what NAFTA and GATT were all about, destroy the capacity of those in the US to deny their labor by moving it all overseas if need be. Makes little difference if YOU wont work there, move the operations to a place where labor has no alternatives. What the vid displays is that much of what took place overseas is now coming home to our doorstep.
@ripperduck "So you won't but someone in a foreign nation will."
Well let them have a shitty fucking up crappy ass job. Let them have a shitty terrible government. I don't care, it's their choice.
I notice that you mentioned NAFTA and GATT - well, if you live in the United States, you're letting it happen. You live in democracy don't you. Didn't you bother to look at voting records before you voted?
@fuzzywzhe Well I did resist but most didn't. Given that unions have been neutered there has been little organized resistance to the destruction of democracy, even if unions weren't close to the best examples of democracy.
@fuzzywzhe What the hell are you talking about? Any sentinent person who had a clue as to what NAFTA/GATT would do realized that it was destructive. Your spouting bullshit if only someone who was working what you think was a crappy job understood that. And fuck your bullshit about unions, their level of corruption doesn't come close to the malfeasance of corps. Unions at their peak amounted to about 38% of private industry workers in 75. Now its 7%. Unions collapsed because the industries fell.
@ripperduck You know, fuck it. I'm tired of discussing this with you.
If you want to change the world, and waste your life trying to save fat stupid slobs who are too fucking lazy to do anything at all about their situation, and want some agency, government, or union to help them, when in reality they just take advantage of them - go right ahead.
It will never work but by all means, keep believing it will, because I just don't fucking care what happens to people like you.
@fuzzywzhe Hey fuck you ahole. These people paid taxes, they probably served in the Armed forces and they worked jobs pricks like you wouldn't dream of doing but want done anyway. When they demand somethng from what they paid into they're told by garbage like you that they are fat lazy slobs. And then a shit like you tells them they demand too much from gov when trash like you is using the Internet, a computer and energy that all come from the same gov. only underscores you're shit.
@ripperduck "These people paid taxes, they probably served in the Armed forces and they worked jobs pricks"
Who gives a fuck??
So, they got ripped off. In 2006 the Democrats were elected to congress to end the Patriot Act, stop the wars, end warrantless wiretapping, and stop crony capitalism.
In 2008, they elected a Democratic president to do the same.
Well, they got ripped off and they are going to be CONTINUED to be ripped off because they can't distinguish between promises and reality.
@fuzzywzhe Are you a fucking idiot? They wanted to get ripped off? And who gives a fuck? I'll let whoever else is reading this to try to figure out the depths of stupidity which your post explores.
@ripperduck "Are you a fucking idiot? They wanted to get ripped off? "
I didn't say they wanted to.
I said they did, and they will continue to get ripped off because instead of doing something about it themselves, they expect a corrupt organization to suddenly and magically become not corrupt "because they paid for it".
I told you, I'm sick of this conversation. You're an idiot, and it's a waste of my time to try to explain to you that the government and unions are not a mommy or daddy.
@ripperduck Look, believe or not I do know what I'm talking about.
Unions are corrupt, the government is VERY corrupt, and the reason they are corrupt is that the populace allows them to be corrupt.
You see, they spend 40 hours a week watching television instead of spending an hour a week doing a little bit of oversight. Nobody is policing the organizations, just like you, they think somebody else will do it, but nobody does.
You want a cure? Then you better start finding a solution.
Judging from Doris' appearance, she must have been underpaid, as she obviously suffers from malnutrition..........
FrankeeFraud 1 year ago
For all of yas who don't think that the gov/corps lie, listen to this woman. She was deceived all through the process, and the extent of the deceit was enormous. All these folks wanted was a job, workers are treated as if they are dogs.
ripperduck 2 years ago
@ripperduck If the job is so awful, why would you work at the job?
Welcome to reality. First of all, don't treat your company as a person - it's a thing. You are trading time for value. You are a commodity it, and it's a commodity to you.
Don't feel guilt about leaving your company, don't feel you owe it anything, that's all in illusion because the companies doesn't feel anything for you. It's a business.
If you're suckered, that's too bad, you've been suckered. Oh well.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Screw that bullshit! Depending on what you're looking at the degree of corporate malfeasance is huge, from financial statement lies to massive environmental destruction, the level of corp crime is enormous. Attitudes such as your is what spurs this crap because what you preach is apathy. If you want to get reamed without the cream then bend over. But don't be an ahole and think that everyone else is gonna play dead.
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck "Attitudes such as your is what spurs this crap because what you preach is apathy."
No, I preach activism.
There are companies I simply won't work for, because they are scum. I won't work for SCO, I won't work for Raytheon, I won't work for KBR.
You know why Microsoft is struggling, most engineers refuse to work for them because of the bullshit they pulled in the late 1990s and early 2000's.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe So you won't but someone in a foreign nation will. This was what NAFTA and GATT were all about, destroy the capacity of those in the US to deny their labor by moving it all overseas if need be. Makes little difference if YOU wont work there, move the operations to a place where labor has no alternatives. What the vid displays is that much of what took place overseas is now coming home to our doorstep.
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck "So you won't but someone in a foreign nation will."
Well let them have a shitty fucking up crappy ass job. Let them have a shitty terrible government. I don't care, it's their choice.
I notice that you mentioned NAFTA and GATT - well, if you live in the United States, you're letting it happen. You live in democracy don't you. Didn't you bother to look at voting records before you voted?
Probably not - so you deserve this.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Well I did resist but most didn't. Given that unions have been neutered there has been little organized resistance to the destruction of democracy, even if unions weren't close to the best examples of democracy.
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck "Well I did resist but most didn't. Given that unions have been neutered"
First of all, if you resisted, and didn't work for a scummy company, what can be your complaint?
Second of all, unions have been neutered because they either are corrupt, or they are so greedy they collapse a business, or both.
I don't care if people let their lives go to hell. It's their choice. Try trying to save morons from their stupidity. All they do is drag you down.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe What the hell are you talking about? Any sentinent person who had a clue as to what NAFTA/GATT would do realized that it was destructive. Your spouting bullshit if only someone who was working what you think was a crappy job understood that. And fuck your bullshit about unions, their level of corruption doesn't come close to the malfeasance of corps. Unions at their peak amounted to about 38% of private industry workers in 75. Now its 7%. Unions collapsed because the industries fell.
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck You know, fuck it. I'm tired of discussing this with you.
If you want to change the world, and waste your life trying to save fat stupid slobs who are too fucking lazy to do anything at all about their situation, and want some agency, government, or union to help them, when in reality they just take advantage of them - go right ahead.
It will never work but by all means, keep believing it will, because I just don't fucking care what happens to people like you.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Hey fuck you ahole. These people paid taxes, they probably served in the Armed forces and they worked jobs pricks like you wouldn't dream of doing but want done anyway. When they demand somethng from what they paid into they're told by garbage like you that they are fat lazy slobs. And then a shit like you tells them they demand too much from gov when trash like you is using the Internet, a computer and energy that all come from the same gov. only underscores you're shit.
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck "These people paid taxes, they probably served in the Armed forces and they worked jobs pricks"
Who gives a fuck??
So, they got ripped off. In 2006 the Democrats were elected to congress to end the Patriot Act, stop the wars, end warrantless wiretapping, and stop crony capitalism.
In 2008, they elected a Democratic president to do the same.
Well, they got ripped off and they are going to be CONTINUED to be ripped off because they can't distinguish between promises and reality.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Are you a fucking idiot? They wanted to get ripped off? And who gives a fuck? I'll let whoever else is reading this to try to figure out the depths of stupidity which your post explores.
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck "Are you a fucking idiot? They wanted to get ripped off? "
I didn't say they wanted to.
I said they did, and they will continue to get ripped off because instead of doing something about it themselves, they expect a corrupt organization to suddenly and magically become not corrupt "because they paid for it".
I told you, I'm sick of this conversation. You're an idiot, and it's a waste of my time to try to explain to you that the government and unions are not a mommy or daddy.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Get fucked. You have no idea what the hell you're talkin about...
ripperduck 1 year ago
@ripperduck Look, believe or not I do know what I'm talking about.
Unions are corrupt, the government is VERY corrupt, and the reason they are corrupt is that the populace allows them to be corrupt.
You see, they spend 40 hours a week watching television instead of spending an hour a week doing a little bit of oversight. Nobody is policing the organizations, just like you, they think somebody else will do it, but nobody does.
You want a cure? Then you better start finding a solution.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
excellent work!
1888junkteam 2 years ago