this guy is underrated he is the best all around center of all time not shaq.Shaq needed a superstar like Kobe and Wade to win,Hakeem didnt have a good superstar with him.Hakeem is a better defender,better low post player,he can shoot,and everything.
He could do anything he wanted to. But as Hubie Brown says in the interview, he was very humble about his achievements and skills. I can't think of too many other centers in league history who made their teammates better.
@Iranianjew4life Kobe would not have won anything without Gasol Either. Shaq did indeed need very good people around him. Keep in mind in '95 Hakeem did have Drexler, however Clyde by that point may have lost a step. But I agree Olajuwon is along with Kareem and Oscar Robertson is the in the top 3 best big men ever.
@Iranianjew4life ok gasol is a great forward but he was not good offensively as shaq is he is not as tough as shaq was.Gasol is the best power forward defensively right now.If he was a top 5 player we wouldve won in 08 but shaq always needs a superstar in order to win.olajuwon won with not alot of talent around him and he beat shaq,patrick ewing,david robinson in his road to a championship.
@Iranianjew4life It's not a knock on one of my favorite ATP but Drexlers subprime years were still much better than most of the guys he played against. It didn't hurt to have him.
@Iranianjew4life Completely agree! The Dream was one of the finest athletes ever to play in the pivot, along side Wilt, Russell and Kareem. One of the top four centers ever to play the game....
@americanaccents Okay but in terms of pure athleticism, The Dream, Wilt, Russell and Kareem were, imo, the best regarding centers. Shaq/Robinson were outstanding but couldn't compare as athletes. Russell and Wilt were track stars and competed at high levels. Dream was a soccer dude and a very good one. Kareem, well, what's there to say. The sky hook was the single most devastating weapon ever and he could do it with either hand.
Excellent analogies. You're right. Cap being 6x MVP is simply the most outstanding achievement. Jordan SHOULD have been 6x, what the hell did Malone do better than him in '97 anyway?
@ripperduck Shaq is probably the most athletic center in NBA history. Who was more physically gifted than Shaq? He had weight, strength, footwork, and could jump through the roof. His entire game was athleticism. Hakeem was similar in his youth but aged fast. Wilt and Russell did not compete at high levels in track and nor did Hakeem compete in soccer.
Yet you included Kareem, whose best physical trait was his height at 7'2"? He wasn't a runner or a jumper. Shows what you know.
Shaq could jump through the roof his first couple of seasons until 1995. The plethora of injuries he suffered through from 1995-1998 left the big fella grounded. As far as age goes...during that time, Hakeem continued to develop his second-to-none post moves well into his 30's. And I choose to make this comparison: It's Hakeem's superathleticism that kept him healthy towards the end of his career, where as Shaq missed nearly 1/3 of team games after he left LA.
@americanaccents That's just not factual. Shaq's vertical leap did not suffer until the end of the Lakers threepeat around 2003. Hakeem slowed down quickly out of nothing more than age.
@SolidSnakeRules That only underscores how little you know. The fact that Kareem played until he was in his 40's and I mean played nearly all of his regular season's, not taking off for 1/3 of the season as did Shaq only underscores who was the better athlete. Maybe you have forgotten but stamina and durability are prime attributes of superior athletes. The fact that all three of those players were more effective for longer and played more minutes than Shaq underscores that Shaq was not close.
@ripperduck Well in that case, John Stockton is the most athletic player ever, wouldn't you agree? No, you probably wouldn't. That's because Kareem's game was not based on athleticism. It was based on height and finesse, so he didn't need the athleticism he didn't have, especially in his later years.
@SolidSnakeRules Let me see if I get this straight. Finesse isn't part of athleticism? Is that what you're saying? U b wrong. And John Stockton was a great athlete as is Steve Nash. But we happen to be talkin centers if you haven't noticed. Specifically the three already mentioned. And I already pointed out that comparing Shaq with the the Big Three, he simply doesn't measure up. He didn't accomplish anything outside of bball, whereas the others did, except for Kareem. But Kareem > Shaq anyway.
@SolidSnakeRules Moreover Kareem created the single greatest shot in the history of the game, the sky hook, in which he could shoot with either hand. Shaq isn't know for anything except shoving folks outta the way because this guy was nearly 400 lbs back in 2002 when he came back from toe surgery. And the reason he needed the surgery was due to his near obesity which caused his toe to basically explode. I was in LA and seeing the spectacle of that guy lugging near 400 lbs up the court was enough
@ripperduck to tell me that whatever he had accomplished earlier was negated by his lack of any conditioning or his commitment to the game in his later years. Wilt despised Shaq and said so, and Wilt's disdain was based on Shaq's sloth and laziness. Wilt knew what he was talking about.
Okay what are we talking about here, greatness or athleticism? If it's athleticism, you can forget about the sky hook because that has nothing to do with it.
Conditioning does not equate to athleticism. A very non-athletic player can pace himself and play at his best for a long period of time. Athletic prowess is defined by ones ability, not longevity. Shaq was bigger, stronger, faster, and could jump higher than Kareem. He was more athletic. Easy call.
@SolidSnakeRules You are flat out an idiot. The hook shot requires an amazing amount of coordination ESPECIALLY if you're over 7'. That is borne out because no one has ever duplicated. And by your own definition then Shaq was non athletic because HE was the one who paced himself, not the other three. Shaq was the one who never played a full season claiming that he was saving himself for the post season. So you actually defined Shaq as not being as athletic. Sorry game set match and you lose.
@ripperduck Coordination is not the same as athleticism. You can be coordinated without sweating a day in your life. By the way, the hook shot is a staple of the modern center. EVERY good offensive center had a good hook shot. That includes Hakeem, Shaq, and Wilt (BEFORE Kareem)
I didn't say pacing yourself = non-athletic, so your entire point falls apart. He paced himself and rightly so because he was unstoppable in the postseason (38 and 15 avg in the finals of the Lakers' threepeat...)
@SolidSnakeRules You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Coordination is flat out one of the staples of athleticism. A center's ability to take it to the hole ala Hakeem and hit a pull up jumper was a bedrock of his game. Wilt's ability to HJ 6'7" and run the 880 made him capable of out jumping other centers. Russell's expertise in the HH requires speed, coordination, stamina and allowed him to dominate the defensive end. I can't think of a more stupid explanation than what you
@ripperduck posted and underscores my point that you don't know what u speak of. But u stated that Kareem dominated because of his height rather than athletic ability, without bothering to post that he has the most points ever. And then you posted Shaq's #'s. Well given your logic such as it is then Shaq's girth was the reason he dominated. You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Kareem was just tall but Shaq was just good. That's nonsense, which isn't surprising. And again to show
@ripperduck u don't no what u speak of, Shaq missed entire weeks of a season. If that's what u call pacing u don't no what the word means. He flat out didn't play. Wilt at 36 played the second most minutes in the league and still played at a high level at that age. Shaq missed almost a 1/3 of the season at 36 & was nowhere near the top in minutes. Again you fail, all the centers mentioned played nearly the entire season far longer than Shaq ever did, & played at high levels in the playoffs.
@ripperduck Would you call a yo-yo champion or typist athletic? They certainly have coordination, but it does not equate to athleticism at all.
A pull-up jumper is the exact opposite of 'taking it to the hole,' and Hakeem didn't hit pull-up Js. He usually hit post shots and fadeaways, but his bread and butter was the hookshot. He said it himself when teaching the hook to Dwight Howard. What game have you been watching?
@SolidSnakeRules U really have no idea what you're taking about. A PJ comes off the capacity to put it on the floor with either wing and instantly come to a stop and hit a jumper. The reason that it is so unstoppable is because you can either go to the hole or hit the jump shot. Being able to go to the hole is EXACTLY why the PJ is so effective, and The Dream had that ability. You have NO idea what you're talkin about, I followed the Dream all through college and pros. He had a post game &
@ripperduck and an away from the basket game, which allowed him to be both effective down low and from 15" away. It's pretty amazing how little you know, but when a guy who thinks that using a yo-yo is an example of coordination in the same manner as a 6'10" running HH, or a 7'1" HJ or shot putting nearly 60', then no one should be surprised by your idiocy.....
@ripperduck er yeah but a pull-up J is not 'taking it to the hole.' It's the opposite. And if you followed Hakeem you should know they posted him up nearly every play. Even if he could drive or hit a pull-up J it wasn't the basis for his offense. He played back-to-the-basket and hit post shots. Unless you're counting face-ups which aren't really jumpers then I don't know what to tell you. You're making shit up. Hakeem himself said the hookshot was his bread and butter move.
@SolidSnakeRules U must have the ability to go to the hole in order to have a PJ You simply have NO idea what you're talkin about, the capacity to put it on the floor is EXACTLY what is needed for a PJ. And if you can put it on the floor is what is needed to go to the hole. Sorry but you're truly full of shit. The Dream had that ability and had a high post game AS well as a low post game. You simply ignored the facts. U idiot why the hell do you think that Robinson and he were able to work
@ripperduck was due to the Dream's capacity to play away from the basket. That's what made his game far more complete than Shaq's, who had to away from the basket game. And it all stems from Dream's amazing physical ability, far greater than Shaq's, due to Dream's ability to play soccer. Sorry boy but you're wrong one more time....
@ripperduck you're just confusing the issue. You said Kareem was the inventor and sole master of the hookshot when in actuality it is a staple of any great center's offense. Hakeem said so. Let that be settled.
Anyway this whole thing was about Shaq being athletic. He was big, strong, fast, had good footwork, and could jump through the roof even until his early thirties. I personally think Hakeem is the best center to ever play but it's ludicrous to say that Shaq isn't skilled or athletic.
@SolidSnakeRules I NEVER said that Kareem was the inventor of the HS. That is a flat lie. He had the Sky Hook, a signature shot, which he hit with either hand, he could hit it from 15' on in, and he did it better than anyone else, which is why he is at the top of the scoring list. The fact that he was capable of using that shot until he was 4o and as effectively showed how athletic he was. It was U who claimed that Kareem was based on height rather that athletic ability. And U lied again when
@ripperduck I said that Shaq had no athletic ability. This debate was various athletic abilities, and I proved that Wilt, Russell, Dream and Kareem had far greater athletic ability than did Shaq. Not once did I say he didn't have it, you're flat out are lying.
@ripperduck And by the way if you had the capacity to understand what I posted you would have noticed that I made a mistake. Dream played with Sampson, not Robinson, and the reason both were effective together was that Dream could play power forward, which entailed playing away from the low post and underscores his abilities. Shaq never had the ability to play away from the low post, never had the requisite skill in order to do so.
"Moreover Kareem created the single greatest shot in the history of the game, the sky hook." - You. The sky hook is no different from any other hook shot. It's just a nickname for Kareem's hookshot. Whether you jump off of one leg or two, it's still a hookshot. And they didn't call it the 'sky hook' because he was athletic, you know. It's because he was tall.
Being able to play forward doesn't make you more athletic, by the way. Skill and athleticism are different things.
@SolidSnakeRules Absolutely NOT! Both Wilt and Bill Russell were accomplished T&F guys who competed at the collegiate level. Couldn't help but notice that you ignored those two factors. Shaq NEVER competed in track and certainly never attained the athleticism needed to compete at the levels of both Wilt & Russell. What you listed were nothing but opinions, Wilt & Russell physical accomplishments are backed up by records. Wilt held the high jump record for the Big 8 for years, he ran the 880.
@ripperduck Russell ran the HH well enough that he competed at the Pac 8 relays and was considered for the OLYs. More over, Wilt played every minute possible in a regular season in 63, and at 36, had the second most minutes played. Shaq never attained that level of stamina or durability. U R flat wrong, it was Wilt superior physical ability as well as Russell's, that allowed them to play far longer and effectively than did Shaq. Which comes to the point of Kareem, who played into his 40's.
ARGUABLY, these people who made this video are sadly mistaken. One of the best centers ever to touch a basketball. ive never met a more humble PERSON. How can you be that good and still be humble. You have to be so much better than an athlete who gets a block then talks and yells about it. He is one of my heros, and this man cemented, onto me, the fact that there are good people in any race or religion.
Arguably my fucking ass. The man was cash money on the biggest stage, one of the greatest playoff performers of ALL TIME. The greatest defensive big man ever, Russell notwithstanding.
arguably? He was the best center of the 90's. He proved it by beating Ewing, Robinson, and Shaq's ass in the playoffs when it counted. Him and Jordan ruled the 90s. Wish they would of played each other in the playoffs
Ironically, it was Hakeem's turn to laugh when Jordan was out of the league in '94. (and '95 if you acknowledge the fact that the Bulls just weren't ready for the Finals that year)
2nd best player in nba history behind jordan!
bettydaw1970 11 months ago
this guy is underrated he is the best all around center of all time not shaq.Shaq needed a superstar like Kobe and Wade to win,Hakeem didnt have a good superstar with him.Hakeem is a better defender,better low post player,he can shoot,and everything.
Iranianjew4life 1 year ago 3
@Iranianjew4life
He could do anything he wanted to. But as Hubie Brown says in the interview, he was very humble about his achievements and skills. I can't think of too many other centers in league history who made their teammates better.
americanaccents 1 year ago
@americanaccents hes a top 5 player no doubt.
Iranianjew4life 1 year ago
@Iranianjew4life Kobe would not have won anything without Gasol Either. Shaq did indeed need very good people around him. Keep in mind in '95 Hakeem did have Drexler, however Clyde by that point may have lost a step. But I agree Olajuwon is along with Kareem and Oscar Robertson is the in the top 3 best big men ever.
STINGTNA22 1 year ago
@STINGTNA22
Oscar Robertson was a point guard.
americanaccents 1 year ago 3
@americanaccents oops my bad
STINGTNA22 1 year ago
@Iranianjew4life ok gasol is a great forward but he was not good offensively as shaq is he is not as tough as shaq was.Gasol is the best power forward defensively right now.If he was a top 5 player we wouldve won in 08 but shaq always needs a superstar in order to win.olajuwon won with not alot of talent around him and he beat shaq,patrick ewing,david robinson in his road to a championship.
Iranianjew4life 1 year ago
@Iranianjew4life He did have some side kicks, Drexler helped a lot.
tellthetruthg 1 year ago
@tellthetruthg Ya but Drexler was past his prime
Iranianjew4life 1 year ago
@Iranianjew4life It's not a knock on one of my favorite ATP but Drexlers subprime years were still much better than most of the guys he played against. It didn't hurt to have him.
tellthetruthg 1 year ago
@Iranianjew4life Completely agree! The Dream was one of the finest athletes ever to play in the pivot, along side Wilt, Russell and Kareem. One of the top four centers ever to play the game....
ripperduck 11 months ago
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I need to throw Shaq and Robinson in here. I just can't leave them out.
americanaccents 11 months ago
@americanaccents Okay but in terms of pure athleticism, The Dream, Wilt, Russell and Kareem were, imo, the best regarding centers. Shaq/Robinson were outstanding but couldn't compare as athletes. Russell and Wilt were track stars and competed at high levels. Dream was a soccer dude and a very good one. Kareem, well, what's there to say. The sky hook was the single most devastating weapon ever and he could do it with either hand.
ripperduck 11 months ago
@ripperduck
Excellent analogies. You're right. Cap being 6x MVP is simply the most outstanding achievement. Jordan SHOULD have been 6x, what the hell did Malone do better than him in '97 anyway?
americanaccents 11 months ago
@americanaccents Throw elbows.....
ripperduck 11 months ago
@ripperduck r u Mr. Robinson?
hailhopes 7 months ago
@hailhopes No but I wish I had his money....
ripperduck 7 months ago
@ripperduck Shaq is probably the most athletic center in NBA history. Who was more physically gifted than Shaq? He had weight, strength, footwork, and could jump through the roof. His entire game was athleticism. Hakeem was similar in his youth but aged fast. Wilt and Russell did not compete at high levels in track and nor did Hakeem compete in soccer.
Yet you included Kareem, whose best physical trait was his height at 7'2"? He wasn't a runner or a jumper. Shows what you know.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules
Shaq could jump through the roof his first couple of seasons until 1995. The plethora of injuries he suffered through from 1995-1998 left the big fella grounded. As far as age goes...during that time, Hakeem continued to develop his second-to-none post moves well into his 30's. And I choose to make this comparison: It's Hakeem's superathleticism that kept him healthy towards the end of his career, where as Shaq missed nearly 1/3 of team games after he left LA.
americanaccents 4 months ago
@americanaccents That's just not factual. Shaq's vertical leap did not suffer until the end of the Lakers threepeat around 2003. Hakeem slowed down quickly out of nothing more than age.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules That only underscores how little you know. The fact that Kareem played until he was in his 40's and I mean played nearly all of his regular season's, not taking off for 1/3 of the season as did Shaq only underscores who was the better athlete. Maybe you have forgotten but stamina and durability are prime attributes of superior athletes. The fact that all three of those players were more effective for longer and played more minutes than Shaq underscores that Shaq was not close.
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck Well in that case, John Stockton is the most athletic player ever, wouldn't you agree? No, you probably wouldn't. That's because Kareem's game was not based on athleticism. It was based on height and finesse, so he didn't need the athleticism he didn't have, especially in his later years.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules Let me see if I get this straight. Finesse isn't part of athleticism? Is that what you're saying? U b wrong. And John Stockton was a great athlete as is Steve Nash. But we happen to be talkin centers if you haven't noticed. Specifically the three already mentioned. And I already pointed out that comparing Shaq with the the Big Three, he simply doesn't measure up. He didn't accomplish anything outside of bball, whereas the others did, except for Kareem. But Kareem > Shaq anyway.
ripperduck 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules Moreover Kareem created the single greatest shot in the history of the game, the sky hook, in which he could shoot with either hand. Shaq isn't know for anything except shoving folks outta the way because this guy was nearly 400 lbs back in 2002 when he came back from toe surgery. And the reason he needed the surgery was due to his near obesity which caused his toe to basically explode. I was in LA and seeing the spectacle of that guy lugging near 400 lbs up the court was enough
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck to tell me that whatever he had accomplished earlier was negated by his lack of any conditioning or his commitment to the game in his later years. Wilt despised Shaq and said so, and Wilt's disdain was based on Shaq's sloth and laziness. Wilt knew what he was talking about.
ripperduck 4 months ago
Okay what are we talking about here, greatness or athleticism? If it's athleticism, you can forget about the sky hook because that has nothing to do with it.
Conditioning does not equate to athleticism. A very non-athletic player can pace himself and play at his best for a long period of time. Athletic prowess is defined by ones ability, not longevity. Shaq was bigger, stronger, faster, and could jump higher than Kareem. He was more athletic. Easy call.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules You are flat out an idiot. The hook shot requires an amazing amount of coordination ESPECIALLY if you're over 7'. That is borne out because no one has ever duplicated. And by your own definition then Shaq was non athletic because HE was the one who paced himself, not the other three. Shaq was the one who never played a full season claiming that he was saving himself for the post season. So you actually defined Shaq as not being as athletic. Sorry game set match and you lose.
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck Coordination is not the same as athleticism. You can be coordinated without sweating a day in your life. By the way, the hook shot is a staple of the modern center. EVERY good offensive center had a good hook shot. That includes Hakeem, Shaq, and Wilt (BEFORE Kareem)
I didn't say pacing yourself = non-athletic, so your entire point falls apart. He paced himself and rightly so because he was unstoppable in the postseason (38 and 15 avg in the finals of the Lakers' threepeat...)
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Coordination is flat out one of the staples of athleticism. A center's ability to take it to the hole ala Hakeem and hit a pull up jumper was a bedrock of his game. Wilt's ability to HJ 6'7" and run the 880 made him capable of out jumping other centers. Russell's expertise in the HH requires speed, coordination, stamina and allowed him to dominate the defensive end. I can't think of a more stupid explanation than what you
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck posted and underscores my point that you don't know what u speak of. But u stated that Kareem dominated because of his height rather than athletic ability, without bothering to post that he has the most points ever. And then you posted Shaq's #'s. Well given your logic such as it is then Shaq's girth was the reason he dominated. You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Kareem was just tall but Shaq was just good. That's nonsense, which isn't surprising. And again to show
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck u don't no what u speak of, Shaq missed entire weeks of a season. If that's what u call pacing u don't no what the word means. He flat out didn't play. Wilt at 36 played the second most minutes in the league and still played at a high level at that age. Shaq missed almost a 1/3 of the season at 36 & was nowhere near the top in minutes. Again you fail, all the centers mentioned played nearly the entire season far longer than Shaq ever did, & played at high levels in the playoffs.
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck Would you call a yo-yo champion or typist athletic? They certainly have coordination, but it does not equate to athleticism at all.
A pull-up jumper is the exact opposite of 'taking it to the hole,' and Hakeem didn't hit pull-up Js. He usually hit post shots and fadeaways, but his bread and butter was the hookshot. He said it himself when teaching the hook to Dwight Howard. What game have you been watching?
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules U really have no idea what you're taking about. A PJ comes off the capacity to put it on the floor with either wing and instantly come to a stop and hit a jumper. The reason that it is so unstoppable is because you can either go to the hole or hit the jump shot. Being able to go to the hole is EXACTLY why the PJ is so effective, and The Dream had that ability. You have NO idea what you're talkin about, I followed the Dream all through college and pros. He had a post game &
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck and an away from the basket game, which allowed him to be both effective down low and from 15" away. It's pretty amazing how little you know, but when a guy who thinks that using a yo-yo is an example of coordination in the same manner as a 6'10" running HH, or a 7'1" HJ or shot putting nearly 60', then no one should be surprised by your idiocy.....
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck er yeah but a pull-up J is not 'taking it to the hole.' It's the opposite. And if you followed Hakeem you should know they posted him up nearly every play. Even if he could drive or hit a pull-up J it wasn't the basis for his offense. He played back-to-the-basket and hit post shots. Unless you're counting face-ups which aren't really jumpers then I don't know what to tell you. You're making shit up. Hakeem himself said the hookshot was his bread and butter move.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules U must have the ability to go to the hole in order to have a PJ You simply have NO idea what you're talkin about, the capacity to put it on the floor is EXACTLY what is needed for a PJ. And if you can put it on the floor is what is needed to go to the hole. Sorry but you're truly full of shit. The Dream had that ability and had a high post game AS well as a low post game. You simply ignored the facts. U idiot why the hell do you think that Robinson and he were able to work
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck was due to the Dream's capacity to play away from the basket. That's what made his game far more complete than Shaq's, who had to away from the basket game. And it all stems from Dream's amazing physical ability, far greater than Shaq's, due to Dream's ability to play soccer. Sorry boy but you're wrong one more time....
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck you're just confusing the issue. You said Kareem was the inventor and sole master of the hookshot when in actuality it is a staple of any great center's offense. Hakeem said so. Let that be settled.
Anyway this whole thing was about Shaq being athletic. He was big, strong, fast, had good footwork, and could jump through the roof even until his early thirties. I personally think Hakeem is the best center to ever play but it's ludicrous to say that Shaq isn't skilled or athletic.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules I NEVER said that Kareem was the inventor of the HS. That is a flat lie. He had the Sky Hook, a signature shot, which he hit with either hand, he could hit it from 15' on in, and he did it better than anyone else, which is why he is at the top of the scoring list. The fact that he was capable of using that shot until he was 4o and as effectively showed how athletic he was. It was U who claimed that Kareem was based on height rather that athletic ability. And U lied again when
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck I said that Shaq had no athletic ability. This debate was various athletic abilities, and I proved that Wilt, Russell, Dream and Kareem had far greater athletic ability than did Shaq. Not once did I say he didn't have it, you're flat out are lying.
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck And by the way if you had the capacity to understand what I posted you would have noticed that I made a mistake. Dream played with Sampson, not Robinson, and the reason both were effective together was that Dream could play power forward, which entailed playing away from the low post and underscores his abilities. Shaq never had the ability to play away from the low post, never had the requisite skill in order to do so.
ripperduck 4 months ago
"Moreover Kareem created the single greatest shot in the history of the game, the sky hook." - You. The sky hook is no different from any other hook shot. It's just a nickname for Kareem's hookshot. Whether you jump off of one leg or two, it's still a hookshot. And they didn't call it the 'sky hook' because he was athletic, you know. It's because he was tall.
Being able to play forward doesn't make you more athletic, by the way. Skill and athleticism are different things.
SolidSnakeRules 4 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules Absolutely NOT! Both Wilt and Bill Russell were accomplished T&F guys who competed at the collegiate level. Couldn't help but notice that you ignored those two factors. Shaq NEVER competed in track and certainly never attained the athleticism needed to compete at the levels of both Wilt & Russell. What you listed were nothing but opinions, Wilt & Russell physical accomplishments are backed up by records. Wilt held the high jump record for the Big 8 for years, he ran the 880.
ripperduck 4 months ago
@ripperduck Russell ran the HH well enough that he competed at the Pac 8 relays and was considered for the OLYs. More over, Wilt played every minute possible in a regular season in 63, and at 36, had the second most minutes played. Shaq never attained that level of stamina or durability. U R flat wrong, it was Wilt superior physical ability as well as Russell's, that allowed them to play far longer and effectively than did Shaq. Which comes to the point of Kareem, who played into his 40's.
ripperduck 4 months ago
ar·gu·ably
Pronunciation: \ˈär-gyü-(ə-)blē\
Function: adverb
: as may be argued or shown by argument
To dumb it down further, people can debate this as you cannot put fact to this statement.
americanaccents 1 year ago
ARGUABLY, these people who made this video are sadly mistaken. One of the best centers ever to touch a basketball. ive never met a more humble PERSON. How can you be that good and still be humble. You have to be so much better than an athlete who gets a block then talks and yells about it. He is one of my heros, and this man cemented, onto me, the fact that there are good people in any race or religion.
blackelk7373 1 year ago
@blackelk7373 thanks, well said
adaviriku 6 months ago
Also he was actually 17 when he first touched a basketball..
dust7895 3 years ago
Arguably my fucking ass. The man was cash money on the biggest stage, one of the greatest playoff performers of ALL TIME. The greatest defensive big man ever, Russell notwithstanding.
radio187 3 years ago 22
I remember reading some preview mag from '95 where there's a caricature of Hakeem up in the clouds with angel wings with the caption:
"After averaging 46 points and 33 rebounds in the Finals sweep, Hakeem retires to become God."
americanaccents 3 years ago
arguably? He was the best center of the 90's. He proved it by beating Ewing, Robinson, and Shaq's ass in the playoffs when it counted. Him and Jordan ruled the 90s. Wish they would of played each other in the playoffs
crs2344 3 years ago 25
Ironically, it was Hakeem's turn to laugh when Jordan was out of the league in '94. (and '95 if you acknowledge the fact that the Bulls just weren't ready for the Finals that year)
americanaccents 3 years ago