Plz Guys I Want An Answer For This Question. The Stanton SCS.4Dj Or The Novation Twitch Or The Vestax VCI-300 MK2 ??? I DJ Mostly Tech Trance and a Little Bit Of Progressive House So Which Is Best For These Genres??? In Build Quality , Sound Quality , Functionality , And Overall Feel
@mra7medronaldo9 ... Ok, first of all, there is ONLY OPINION, no wrong answers... Secondly, the machines you have mentioned do things very differently, but will give you the same result, happiness through performing music! But to try and give you some help - Twitch and VCI are controllers, they both require a Laptop + software to make them work, the SCS however has it all built in. I prefer Twitch over VCI300, but I love SCS as its portable, less to worry about and just works
@beacon1045 I would certainly go for the Stanton then. The Numark will require a Laptop to be able to mix with a screen. The Mixdeck does have CD players, if that is important to you, but the Stanton has 4 USB ports, (2 underneath also) so perfect for a USB DJ, it also records and has the LOVELY screen... Both units have their good points, but from what you have said above, I would certainly say the Stanton is for you.
@djbigangus Nice work mate! Great to see people really enjoying any gear, and your vids certainly do that, I am into the tunes also, which helps!!!! Glad you enjoyed the review..
i saw a comment saying that it doesnt work for iphones but wat about ipod touch because i have a 4th gen ipod touch that i was planning on using with this
@djbrizk Hey, I will get you an answer on this one, I don't have a touch, so can't test it first hand, but my big issue with people talking about the iPhone and wanting to use iPhones as work devices is that it leaves the door open to forgetting to use Air plane mode and carry good consistent quality of music on their device to ensure they sound good when out.... Let me get u an answer on your question though....
@djbrizk Pleasure mate, gotta make sure it works the way you need it to, or find out what you can use! I have to say though, I think ALL people looking at a device like this, should be looking at using a specific drive to install underneath so you can keep it all together and always have it ready to party with you. Also think about at least 1 other drive so you can record to a separate drive that you are NOT playing from. iTouch is awesome, but you should get something specific for this
@MsThealex33, I do like them both for different reasons, but the SCS.4DJ has a screen and houses everything internally, so I would get the SCS.4DJ if I HAD to choose for sure, its a complete package, where as you need a laptop with the iDJ3....
Hello Andre, good vid. I have one of these, and since no one else seems to want to reply to me, I wondered why my iPhone 4s doesn't work with this product? And also, I saved the new software to my flash drive, but there was no sign of it when I plugged it in? Do I need to do this manually or should it do it all for me? Cheers in advance, Craig.
@shippersmush HI Craig, The iPhone 4s doesn't work with it because of the way Apple software and hard drives work. Some people got older OS's to work with the SCS.4DJ, but the new 5 doesn't work... Some people got lucky using older OS's but yeah, the simple reason is, because it wasn't designed to work with iPhones! Better idea would be to use a USB drive or independent drive anyway, as DJing with a phone is full of danger, you need to run airplane mode if you can get it to work etc...
I'm curious to know why this unit is being billed as "ideal for beginners". I've been playing for over 28 years and I would use this to rock the club and house party alike... Is it plasticky in feel? Is the sound quality bad?
@windsorunderground Hey, thanks for your kind words! It is a beginners unit, mainly due to its lack of options to perform as Professionals have become accustomed to in clubs. It doesn't feel plasticky, but it is plastic, so won't last in club land (you would know as well as I that club DJs will twist and break anything not built for the club environment) But as I also stated, its great for mobile DJs, if you look after it and are a single user, no reason why you can't rock the party with it...
@windsorunderground - Also the sound is great, no issues there, but it is all setup much as a beginners unit, so only 2 decks, 4 effects.... But like I said, its also great for mobile DJs, the guy who taught me to DJ 20 years ago just got one for his parties and LOVES it... We are in a new world now though, young kids are expecting 4 decks for sampling and all sorts of other things, so yeah, its framed as a beginners unit for these reasons, but its a quality bit of kit for any personal user
Hi Andre,Cheers for the reply,fyi gabba IS techno (see my nye 94/95 vid) & all i really play is old skool house ripped from vinyl nowdays anyway,If the unit analyzes a 145bpm tune as 116bpm there is NO WAY to change the beatgrid (halving/doubling or moving the cue point wont help) & the effects /syncing & looping are useless if the bpm is incorrect.Yes you can tap the correct bpm in but this does NOT affect the beatgrid which stays the same from the original incorrect analaysis.Doing v2 updt now
@SloMoMan1 Hey, totally agree on Gabba, but like I illuded to, I play House and Techno with 4 on on the floor, not the irregular beats found in Gabba or D&B.. You are right though, if a track is analysed wrong, its wrong and sucks that your have struggled with that! Great to see you are upgrading, I think from your use, you will like what has been done and cleaned up for you, oh, and try the new quickgrid software which will analyse your tunes on a computer and hopefully with more success!
As a back up unit it's okay,but the lack of hot cues & not having the ability to adjust the beatgrid when the unit does not analyze tracks propperly means its only half the machine it could have been.Try analyzing dnb or gabba rather than slow stuff like hip hop/dubstep etc.I also get clicks n pops when it loops,plus it seems to speed up & slow down despite what the bpm reads.The effects are frankly shite -i would have prefferd 4 hot cues instead.
@SloMoMan1 Well you have certainly had a very different experience to me. I can change and reset the beatgrid, halve it, double it and move it. Never heard a click or pop in my testing and also had it locked with Ableton for more than 30 mins without a single beat out of place. Yup, I play house and techno, so a much easier style for the machine to work with. I also disagree about the effects.. But we play very different music! Works great with 4 on the floor! Youve updated firmware?
Like your intro graphics. Cool. Funny T-Shirt also. great review. Nice solid piece of kit. Messed with it for a bit at a store and was impressed. too bad it will be looked over by a lot of DJs because it doesn't say Pioneer.
@gilboogie Yup, those that buy gear based on brand are inane sheep... I do love some of what Pioneer have done over the years, but the world is full of things people miss out on as they are either brand haters or sheep... Thanks for your comments, glad you enjoyed the review.
i bought this controller last week, and its really great! just waiting for the Virtual DJ mapping to be done. ( nice to have the option to do that) but yes, nice controller for the beginner =) the record function is very nice to have so i ( very new to this ) can record and listen to it later.. right now it sounds like a bag of shit, but at least i know thanks to this. thanks for the review dude! =)
I am somewhat puzzled by the lack of reviews showing consumers the CONS of a unit VS the praise.
I've had this unit for quite awhile now and was going to use it as a backup unit to my main gear (serato Itch/Numark V7's) and to quickly get mix ideas in my head without cranking up a full system.
In actual practice, I have had constant locks, freezes and lag issues. Particularly with version 1 of the firmware. Have you used this unit for some hours doing mixes?
@wtcbd01 Yeah, I have NEVER reviewed a product I wanted to slam, too busy playing with things I like, so yeah, not really interested in doing reviews on things I don't like... I have had the unit about a mth and have had pre-release beta version of V2 Firmware, so no. I havent experienced any of the issues that you talk about in V1... Also after seeing issues people had with V1, I tested it after leaving on after going away for the weekend and used last weekend at a gig, no stress or glitches :)
Great review man. I like every thing about the unit,just it needs to have all of goodies as the new four channel controllers has I think. More controllable Sample banks like an mpc with que marks,eq,filters, and effects. Separate the sound effects from each channel and each sound bank. I believe that will give to days dj's more options for recording to setting up awsome mixes for live shows triggering sounds and doing what ever they want with the sounds.
@djjambone Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review... I agree, its a cool unit and is a massive turning point for Stanton's collection of DJ tools. 4 decks would be nice, but also what I found in the past month is that because it locks so well to the BPM that is set, it works REALLY well with things like Ableton. I had it locked at 128.2 BPM the other night for 30 mins, going through heaps of tracks and playing live beats, basslines and loops in Ableton, which was awesome... 4 decks would rock also!
it looks like a really good technology by stanton , not my thing tho its the size many brands forget that we don't like small consoles , numark was the only company that saw this , and made the v7 and ns7 , would love to see this tech on a ns7 size console built by allean and heath , i dream that companies can merge together and share their development to bring us life changing products
@djglobeone It really is good tech ain't it? I have been blown away by what Stanton have done in recent times to reinvent the digital DJ, very unique and some great new ideas here. As this is made for a beginner, or mobile DJ, the size is perfect as people don't like lugging around big consoles for gigs and often find it hard to fit an NS7 in their home console, but I too love a big chunky console, even if I rarely use one these days... I have too many toys in my console!!!!
Very nice vid review of this product. The mix was tight. What was the name of the track and the artist name? I may make a purchase based upon Andres review and demo. Thank you. DJ Malarky out.
@djmalarky Cheers for the comments! The mix was so NOTHING to do with me and totally due to the amazing sync of this machine... Just wanted to point that out... Although I am quite amazing when i mix!!! hahahahaha! The tracks in that mix are - Longest Road and Paradise Circus... Glad you liked the video DJ Malarky.
Plz Guys I Want An Answer For This Question. The Stanton SCS.4Dj Or The Novation Twitch Or The Vestax VCI-300 MK2 ??? I DJ Mostly Tech Trance and a Little Bit Of Progressive House So Which Is Best For These Genres??? In Build Quality , Sound Quality , Functionality , And Overall Feel
mra7medronaldo9 1 month ago
@mra7medronaldo9 ... Ok, first of all, there is ONLY OPINION, no wrong answers... Secondly, the machines you have mentioned do things very differently, but will give you the same result, happiness through performing music! But to try and give you some help - Twitch and VCI are controllers, they both require a Laptop + software to make them work, the SCS however has it all built in. I prefer Twitch over VCI300, but I love SCS as its portable, less to worry about and just works
andrecato 1 month ago
its work with Ipod ?
djswinger1 1 month ago
WELL IT'S EITHER THIS OR THE MIXDECK EXPRESS WHICH DO YOU THINK I SHOULD GO WITH I WANT TO MIX WITHOUT A LAP TOP AND USE USB FLASH DRIVES
beacon1045 2 months ago
@beacon1045 I would certainly go for the Stanton then. The Numark will require a Laptop to be able to mix with a screen. The Mixdeck does have CD players, if that is important to you, but the Stanton has 4 USB ports, (2 underneath also) so perfect for a USB DJ, it also records and has the LOVELY screen... Both units have their good points, but from what you have said above, I would certainly say the Stanton is for you.
andrecato 2 months ago
solid review. nice mix too. i have posted 4 mix's with the product. nothing to fancy but some good tracks:)
check em out if you get a minute!
peace out
djbigangus 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@djbigangus Nice work mate! Great to see people really enjoying any gear, and your vids certainly do that, I am into the tunes also, which helps!!!! Glad you enjoyed the review..
andrecato 2 months ago
i saw a comment saying that it doesnt work for iphones but wat about ipod touch because i have a 4th gen ipod touch that i was planning on using with this
djbrizk 2 months ago
@djbrizk Hey, I will get you an answer on this one, I don't have a touch, so can't test it first hand, but my big issue with people talking about the iPhone and wanting to use iPhones as work devices is that it leaves the door open to forgetting to use Air plane mode and carry good consistent quality of music on their device to ensure they sound good when out.... Let me get u an answer on your question though....
andrecato 2 months ago
@andrecato thnx
djbrizk 2 months ago
@djbrizk Pleasure mate, gotta make sure it works the way you need it to, or find out what you can use! I have to say though, I think ALL people looking at a device like this, should be looking at using a specific drive to install underneath so you can keep it all together and always have it ready to party with you. Also think about at least 1 other drive so you can record to a separate drive that you are NOT playing from. iTouch is awesome, but you should get something specific for this
andrecato 2 months ago
hey good vid
i will like to ask what is bettter the idj3 or the stanton 4dj
MsThealex33 2 months ago
hey good vid
i will like to ask what is bettter the idj3 or the stanton 4dj
MsThealex33 2 months ago
@MsThealex33, I do like them both for different reasons, but the SCS.4DJ has a screen and houses everything internally, so I would get the SCS.4DJ if I HAD to choose for sure, its a complete package, where as you need a laptop with the iDJ3....
andrecato 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
hei andre i will like to ask what turntable is better the idj3 or the stantonscs 4dj
MsThealex33 2 months ago
@MsThealex33 i own the scs.4dj and my bro had the idj3. he said it was a waste of money and most of the feature were not accurate!
the scs gives you everything it promises. come check out some of my demo's the unit if you want. see how works for another beginner.
djbigangus 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Hello Andre, good vid. I have one of these, and since no one else seems to want to reply to me, I wondered why my iPhone 4s doesn't work with this product? And also, I saved the new software to my flash drive, but there was no sign of it when I plugged it in? Do I need to do this manually or should it do it all for me? Cheers in advance, Craig.
shippersmush 2 months ago
@shippersmush HI Craig, The iPhone 4s doesn't work with it because of the way Apple software and hard drives work. Some people got older OS's to work with the SCS.4DJ, but the new 5 doesn't work... Some people got lucky using older OS's but yeah, the simple reason is, because it wasn't designed to work with iPhones! Better idea would be to use a USB drive or independent drive anyway, as DJing with a phone is full of danger, you need to run airplane mode if you can get it to work etc...
andrecato 2 months ago
Excellent review as always!
FileSpnR 2 months ago
Great review Andre!
I'm curious to know why this unit is being billed as "ideal for beginners". I've been playing for over 28 years and I would use this to rock the club and house party alike... Is it plasticky in feel? Is the sound quality bad?
windsorunderground 2 months ago
@windsorunderground Hey, thanks for your kind words! It is a beginners unit, mainly due to its lack of options to perform as Professionals have become accustomed to in clubs. It doesn't feel plasticky, but it is plastic, so won't last in club land (you would know as well as I that club DJs will twist and break anything not built for the club environment) But as I also stated, its great for mobile DJs, if you look after it and are a single user, no reason why you can't rock the party with it...
andrecato 2 months ago
@windsorunderground - Also the sound is great, no issues there, but it is all setup much as a beginners unit, so only 2 decks, 4 effects.... But like I said, its also great for mobile DJs, the guy who taught me to DJ 20 years ago just got one for his parties and LOVES it... We are in a new world now though, young kids are expecting 4 decks for sampling and all sorts of other things, so yeah, its framed as a beginners unit for these reasons, but its a quality bit of kit for any personal user
andrecato 2 months ago
Hi Andre,Cheers for the reply,fyi gabba IS techno (see my nye 94/95 vid) & all i really play is old skool house ripped from vinyl nowdays anyway,If the unit analyzes a 145bpm tune as 116bpm there is NO WAY to change the beatgrid (halving/doubling or moving the cue point wont help) & the effects /syncing & looping are useless if the bpm is incorrect.Yes you can tap the correct bpm in but this does NOT affect the beatgrid which stays the same from the original incorrect analaysis.Doing v2 updt now
SloMoMan1 3 months ago
@SloMoMan1 Hey, totally agree on Gabba, but like I illuded to, I play House and Techno with 4 on on the floor, not the irregular beats found in Gabba or D&B.. You are right though, if a track is analysed wrong, its wrong and sucks that your have struggled with that! Great to see you are upgrading, I think from your use, you will like what has been done and cleaned up for you, oh, and try the new quickgrid software which will analyse your tunes on a computer and hopefully with more success!
andrecato 3 months ago
As a back up unit it's okay,but the lack of hot cues & not having the ability to adjust the beatgrid when the unit does not analyze tracks propperly means its only half the machine it could have been.Try analyzing dnb or gabba rather than slow stuff like hip hop/dubstep etc.I also get clicks n pops when it loops,plus it seems to speed up & slow down despite what the bpm reads.The effects are frankly shite -i would have prefferd 4 hot cues instead.
As a first attempt though it aint bad...
SloMoMan1 3 months ago
@SloMoMan1 Well you have certainly had a very different experience to me. I can change and reset the beatgrid, halve it, double it and move it. Never heard a click or pop in my testing and also had it locked with Ableton for more than 30 mins without a single beat out of place. Yup, I play house and techno, so a much easier style for the machine to work with. I also disagree about the effects.. But we play very different music! Works great with 4 on the floor! Youve updated firmware?
andrecato 3 months ago
Like your intro graphics. Cool. Funny T-Shirt also. great review. Nice solid piece of kit. Messed with it for a bit at a store and was impressed. too bad it will be looked over by a lot of DJs because it doesn't say Pioneer.
gilboogie 3 months ago
@gilboogie Yup, those that buy gear based on brand are inane sheep... I do love some of what Pioneer have done over the years, but the world is full of things people miss out on as they are either brand haters or sheep... Thanks for your comments, glad you enjoyed the review.
andrecato 3 months ago
i bought this controller last week, and its really great! just waiting for the Virtual DJ mapping to be done. ( nice to have the option to do that) but yes, nice controller for the beginner =) the record function is very nice to have so i ( very new to this ) can record and listen to it later.. right now it sounds like a bag of shit, but at least i know thanks to this. thanks for the review dude! =)
(sry for bad english)
isdul 3 months ago
@isdul Cheers mate, great to have your comments and glad you enjoyed my review,
andrecato 3 months ago
Good review overall.
I am somewhat puzzled by the lack of reviews showing consumers the CONS of a unit VS the praise.
I've had this unit for quite awhile now and was going to use it as a backup unit to my main gear (serato Itch/Numark V7's) and to quickly get mix ideas in my head without cranking up a full system.
In actual practice, I have had constant locks, freezes and lag issues. Particularly with version 1 of the firmware. Have you used this unit for some hours doing mixes?
wtcbd01 3 months ago
@wtcbd01 Yeah, I have NEVER reviewed a product I wanted to slam, too busy playing with things I like, so yeah, not really interested in doing reviews on things I don't like... I have had the unit about a mth and have had pre-release beta version of V2 Firmware, so no. I havent experienced any of the issues that you talk about in V1... Also after seeing issues people had with V1, I tested it after leaving on after going away for the weekend and used last weekend at a gig, no stress or glitches :)
andrecato 3 months ago
Great review man. I like every thing about the unit,just it needs to have all of goodies as the new four channel controllers has I think. More controllable Sample banks like an mpc with que marks,eq,filters, and effects. Separate the sound effects from each channel and each sound bank. I believe that will give to days dj's more options for recording to setting up awsome mixes for live shows triggering sounds and doing what ever they want with the sounds.
djjambone 3 months ago
@djjambone Thanks, glad you enjoyed the review... I agree, its a cool unit and is a massive turning point for Stanton's collection of DJ tools. 4 decks would be nice, but also what I found in the past month is that because it locks so well to the BPM that is set, it works REALLY well with things like Ableton. I had it locked at 128.2 BPM the other night for 30 mins, going through heaps of tracks and playing live beats, basslines and loops in Ableton, which was awesome... 4 decks would rock also!
andrecato 3 months ago
it looks like a really good technology by stanton , not my thing tho its the size many brands forget that we don't like small consoles , numark was the only company that saw this , and made the v7 and ns7 , would love to see this tech on a ns7 size console built by allean and heath , i dream that companies can merge together and share their development to bring us life changing products
djglobeone 3 months ago
@djglobeone It really is good tech ain't it? I have been blown away by what Stanton have done in recent times to reinvent the digital DJ, very unique and some great new ideas here. As this is made for a beginner, or mobile DJ, the size is perfect as people don't like lugging around big consoles for gigs and often find it hard to fit an NS7 in their home console, but I too love a big chunky console, even if I rarely use one these days... I have too many toys in my console!!!!
andrecato 3 months ago
Very nice vid review of this product. The mix was tight. What was the name of the track and the artist name? I may make a purchase based upon Andres review and demo. Thank you. DJ Malarky out.
djmalarky 3 months ago
@djmalarky Cheers for the comments! The mix was so NOTHING to do with me and totally due to the amazing sync of this machine... Just wanted to point that out... Although I am quite amazing when i mix!!! hahahahaha! The tracks in that mix are - Longest Road and Paradise Circus... Glad you liked the video DJ Malarky.
andrecato 3 months ago