The first person she talked to is just like most of the people here. THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS A PRIVATE BANK AND NOT PART OF THE GOVERMENT. The federal reserve loans the money it prints to the goverment and federal reserve notes are the property of the federal reserve.
Funny that most don't know that "In god we trust" was not put on paper money until after the summer of 1954. And we all know how trustworthy and divine our lawmakers are - don't we? Just another way to control the masses - make 'em afraid of an unknowable invisible deity in the sky - and you better love him or you’re doomed to eternal damnation!
I don't understand how this billboard is any more "offensive" than say, a billboard for Hooters. The point is to make them question. If you can't answer your children's questions about God, then maybe you need to 1) rethink your belief system or 2) become more knowledgeable about something that you preach.
This is part of living in a country of free speech. Evangelicals have a habit of forgetting that "freedom" applies to all Americans, not just them.
BTW the first guy interviewed proves his poor logic. Saying "the gov't acknowledges Him" applies to Appeal to Authority, and believing something because others believe in it is known as the Bandwagon Effect.
Oh my GOD (no pun intended). I'm changed forever. I used to not believe in any kind of a greater being but now I know I was wrong the whole time. This proves it. God does exist. The dollar bill says so.
Geez, some people are so stupid. It's simple: test what you believe with science, reason and logic. Ask questions and THINK! I did and I believe in God.
I have to say it's quite the oxymoron to call anyone who still uses such childish things as faith a true ally of secularism. I will not adjust my own actions to avoid upsetting believers, because what is disturbing is how little support there actually exists of these superstitious beliefs. People use their faith throughout the world to justify insane things from suicide bombing, slavery, all the way to genital mutilation. You should be upset that your beliefs can be used this way. I sure am.
I love that lady talking about how it's "inappropriate" for a group to decide what her children are exposed to. I suppose she doesn't mind the acres of religious billboards plastered up and down every damn highway in the country...
There are plenty of billboards saying "CHRIST IS LORD" etc. There were bus ads in Britain a few years ago saying something similar. However I do wonder what some of the Atheists really want because I know that some of them rather enjoy their exclusivity and like feeling superior to others. "I grew out of my imaginary friend, but YOU didn't! Ha ha!"
@Voiceofreason4677 Well the reason you are against this sign is irrational. You suffer from a problem that Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins all talk about extensively; That we are raised to believe that confronting religion is taboo and offensive. In every other subject, from science, to politics, to economics - challenging other people is perfectly fine, but people like you have it ingrained in their heads that religion is an off limits topic. Wrong answer kid
"If a kid reads it they might question their parents".... So what if the kid's parents are atheists and the kid see's signs and billboards from a religious orginization (like there are all over North Carolina)... what do the kids think Hmmm? Stupid betch lol.
Also, the guy who used "God on money" argument was a real loser. Many of the founding fathers we're not Christians, they were Deists (why they left Britain in the first place!) Even Thomas Jefferson took a damn sharpie to his bible lol.
So the women thinks it will be bad if children see the sign? Maybe she would rather teach them about how the bible condones genocide, racism, tribalism, and the mandated murder of children, women, and homosexuals. The bible is the most immoral book ever written. Ever.
1.) It says "In God We Trust" on the dollar bill, so obviously he's not imaginary.
2.) Kids might start asking questions.
3.) It's okay to put ads for McDonald's and Coca-Cola on billboards for kids to see, however, if an ad promotes thinking instead of poor health choices, it's not appropriate.
In god we trust on our currency didn't start until 1957, under Pres. Eisenhower, in response to the perceived threat the godless Soviet Union so it appears, under this 'logic' that god is only 55 years old.
@flyersphan111 Of course it will make people think. Say you have a job and your boss tells you simply that you're not performing up to expectations. Your first reaction will be to find out exactly what, if anything, you're doing wrong so you could affirm or refute that claim.
Any halfway rational person would look at this sign and ask, "what makes these people say God is imaginary? Do I have any evidence to suggest that he's not?"
@serialclone Yeah. I guess so. However, most people don't think like that. Were you ever religious? If so, you can probably remember how if someone questioned your belifefs, you probably reacted in anger, even though you couldn't come up with anything to reject their claim.
@flyersphan111 That's precisely the reason the phrasing is necessary. Let's say they wanted to put up a sign saying that Bigfoot is imaginary. There likely wouldn't be much fuss about it despite there being a fair number of adamant Bigfoot believers who might possibly react in anger. But when we say the same about deities, there is a big fuss. What gives religion this free pass to not be offended?
@serialclone I see where you're coming from. I don't really think there's that much of a need to say it like this though. When I was religious, I would have just pretended that I never even read this sign and move along. In fact, it would probably discourage me from questioning my beliefs, just because there was a chance that I could be wrong. Oh well. Different people think differently I guess.
Why are non-Christians EXPECTED to see Christian billboards all over the place?? Then Christians whine when someone else does it. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
@DDP3NIKilla There are some people who feel that they need to believe in God because everyone around them believes. The billboard is to show those people that there are other people that don't believe in God, too, so they don't have to continually lie to themselves.
@DDP3NIKilla That's the sad part. Theists won't read anything that might dissuade them from their ridiculous beliefs and non-theists can't imagine that any rational thinking human can really accept such tripe.
While I have no problem with the billboard myself and am an Atheist, the way in which the billboard's message is giving forth is a deliberate attempt to antagonize believers. Saying "God is an imaginary friend" is essentially viewed as a form of an insult to many believers. While it may be true or not (I view it as true), such a thing is not well accepted when you add the order of "choose reality." This billboard will just create more hostility in an attempt of deconversion.
@justintempler I've never argued that Jesus is a myth using acharya's formation of argument. What the hell are you talking about? Questioning that Jesus existed because he is based on archetypes and the evidence suggest an evolution of Christianity with no Historical Gesnsis of Christ is not offensive, it's engaging in the evidence. Saying the Gospels represent midrash is not offensive at all. Are you a Christian apologist or something?
Answer: or something. I'm an atheist that is not afraid to criticize atheists making bad arguments. Christians have an emotional attachment to their beliefs and when you present the arguments of a pseudo scholar like Acharya S that are full of obvious and numerous errors you give Christians the justification to see YOU as the irrational person and you end up reinforcing their beliefs instead of challenging them.
@Sanosukeafo I see your problem now, try reading my comment in context.
voiceofreason says he can see how the sign is offensive but can't see his own actions as offensive. I was pointing at his hypocrisy.
P.S. and seeing something as being offensive ≠ being against something. Freedom of speech means not being shielded from offensive billboards. So even IF I had found it to be offensive. That does NOT translate into being against the sign.
@justintempler Again, I have never used any of the arguments by Murdock to say that Jesus never existed. I stated that the Christian myths about Jesus being portrayed in the Gospels have been lifted from earlier miracle stories about other gods and heroes. Saying I just read Murdock is like to me saying that Joseph Campbell never existed and shaped most of the field of Comparative Mythology and folklore studies to this date. I mean, Hero Archetype anyone? In short: Campbell>Achary
@voiceofreason4677 Trying to communicate to you is like talking to a brick wall.
You do way more than "read" Murdoch. You are a regular on her blogs, and use her arguments in your debates.
Her material was used for the conspiracy movie Zeitgeist that claims that what Christians know as Jesus is a fabrication constructed from previous myths of former mythical gods combined with her astro-theology BS mixed in.
Hence my statement "using Acharya arguments that Jesus is Myth"
@justintempler "You are a regular on her blogs, and use her arguments in your debates."
Um... really? When have I used her arguments in a debate? How am I a regular on her blog? I am a regular on her forums, but that's because I find some of the discussions there rather enlightening, not because follow Acharya S.
@voiceofreason4677 "How am I a regular on her blog? I am a regular on her forums"
Yes I misspoke, I meant her forums. Your posts are there for anyone to read.
Are you really that dense? Acharya S's arguments are what you defend when you defend Zeitgeist part one. She even helped with the corrections in the revised version of Zeitgeist and co-wrote the source guide for Zeitgeist.
@billwalkerable If we really wanna be fair, we have to admit that religious fanaticism has been around the planet for quite sometime and only in the past 200 years have we seen a decline towards a more secular society. However, being mean hateful to believers that are not fanatics just because they believe in a god is both illogical and making enemies that could be allies towards secularism.
@voiceofreason4677 Going on 86, my own 'activism' consists of letters to the editor in response to those of people 'pushing' religion. Until a few years ago, it was also removing roadside litter, such as crosses, etc.
I think that we, as a secular people, should put the phase "God is an Imaginary Friend" on our legal tender in place of the delusionary phrase that still soils our money. I shall notify the DOT ASAP.
@warren52nz Ah yes, but how many so-called "Christians" actually follow the teachings of Christ? Certainly not evangelical/fundamentalist "Christians." They are no different than radical fundamentist Muslims, imho. They practice a kind of sharia law themselves. Their God is an "imaginary friend", and an evil one. But it's all made up, so who really gives a shit? I say put up the billboard, but be prepared for the barrage of stupidity that will followers of fundamentalism. It's worth it.
@srkane48 "how many so-called "Christians" actually follow the teachings of Christ?"
Not many in my experience. I don't know ANYONE who owns a slave!
Ephesians 6:5-9
8^)
But a big part of what Christ (is said to have) taught is about peace and love. He was really more of a liberal hippy than anything else. Yet the people who worship him tend to be right wing conservatives, the very opposite.
None of it makes sense which is why I don't buy into it.
@warren52nz Actually, it seems to me that the best thing about contemporary Christians is that most don't follow their creed. If they did just imagine all those weirdy beardys stoning adulterers and the plethora of handless ball grabbers.
@warren52nz I totally agree with you. Jesus Christ, as I see Him at least, was more of a progressive humanist with environmentalist leanings. Evangelical/fundamentalists are, therefore, the antithisis of Christ. Hmm, would that make them minions of the "Anti-Christ" perhaps? I'm just saying....
@srkane48 There's a really good video in here somewhere that points out that virtually none of the Christians are actually behaving like Christians are supposed to behave. Had a brief look yesterday but couldn't find it.
eg. In the Bible it says something like "It's easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven"
So all those mega-rich evangelists with multiple mansions are doomed. They obviously don't believe their own bullshit! 8^)
@warren52nz I'm dating myself here, but have you ever seen the orignal "Oh God" with George Burns and John Denver? The God that GB plays is exactly the king of "imaginary friend" that I would love to have. There's a funny scene where God calls a particular tele-vangelist from a mega-church on the carpet for being a greed pig and not following the teachings of his Son. I think that God got the slimebag on tax-evasion and the Orange County mega-church declared bankruptcy. God got it right!
@srkane48 Yeah I've seen The God's Must be Crazy twice. It was hilarious. It walked the thin line between Theism and Atheism so both groups could enjoy it.
Somehow I doubt you'd "outdate" me. 8^)
I remember seeing 2001: A Space Odyssey" when it was first released and The Sound of Music.
As an atheist that runs a local atheist group I have to say that this one goes a little too far. Asserting there is no god and likening him to an imaginary friend is exactly the type of thing that makes reasonable theists close their ears to what we have to say.
@simbeau Your group wouldn't happen to be in Seattle, would it? I'm looking for such a club. Atheist groups are difficult to google or bing as most athiests in my neck of the woods seem timid about expressing their convictions in public and therefore remain closeted. As a result,many Atheists are never really themselves outside of their own private confines.They conceal an important part of their identity therefore appearing bland and mysterious. Sort of like the closeted Mormon, Mitt Romney.
@simbeau Thanks Man, I can't believe that I didn't find this website before. Atheists are indeed alive and well in Seattle and I plan on visiting their local chapter on Darwin Day, Feb. 12th, for their annual celebration. They have a plethera of different events and meetings scheduled on a regular basis. Talking to realists who use science as their measure for the "meaning of life" and debunk the delusions of the superstitious masses is better than talking to a head-shrinker. Vive le Canada!
The stupid guy said: "If it's on our dollar bills (In god we trust) its because the government recognizes it as a being"... LOL... This world is fucked up!! People dont think!! Why they dont make a news segment talking about Christian billboards and asking non-believers of all kinds what they think about it? I have lots to say about Christian billboards.
@AtheisticTeenager You are just kidding, aren't you Atheistic Teenager? If I hadn't questioned my parents decades ago I would have ended up a total asshole. I have learned to question every person that I encounter, including parents and older siblings. The only person you can really trust in this cynical and often dishonest world, is yourself, but you probably already are discovering that reality.
@AtheisticTeenager Nah, I knew that you weren't serious, sorry for the soapbox lecture, but I had to make sure that you knew that it is totally ok to question the opinions of parents.
so churches are alowed to put up signs saying things like 'jesus is the only path to paradice' but we cant put up a sign that says otherwise. the sad thing is that that sign is most likely going to be vandilised as soon as it goes up
@Bayzz2 Amen to that! I was in Phoenix last week to visit some homesick friends, and fundamentalist Christianity and Mormonism was posted everywhere. It was like something out of an Orwell novel. Having said that, however, I would prefer that fellow atheists not be so blatant about the fact that "God" is really just an imaginary friend. There is no way to effectively market this slogan to believers. The arguement usually fails. They must figure it out for themselves. Some actually do.
If billboards propagating the belief that God exists are allowed (and they are, I've seen them), then billboards doing the opposite should be allowed. Plain and simple.
Billboards shouldn't exist. They are distractions. They enrich the few. They interfere with the natural flow of the atmosphere. They often become deadly in a tornado. They utilize toxic inks, fasteners and exert stress on overfilled landfills after the skins are faded. The material used is extremely non-biodegradable. The messages are oft confusing, divisive and almost always biased. They use electricity inefficiently. I could go on and on. Hope you get my drift. - Dr Joseph Huntington (MENSA)
@JosephHuntington That's actually the best arguement against this billboard that I've read on this thread. Billboards distract drivers and should be banned. But then you'd get all the extream defenders of the Ist Amendment in an uproar. I guess let it stand, but I agree with sameer who suggests that the statement be rephrased into a question--How do you know God is not just an imaginary friend? It sounds more scientific.
The woman saying "and then they'll question their parents..." I lol'ed so hard at her hesitation to say what she was really thinking. In other words, "And then they won't be able to control them." Well I say, good. Respect is earned by everybody and questioning everything prevents you from being duped.
How can you be offended!!!!???! If you are offended by this you have lost your right to be heard, anywhere! In any context! Kids questioning they're parents is a bad thing?
God exist because the bible said so and the bible is true because it's the word of god.....and god exist because the bible said so and the bible is true because it's the word of god.....and god exist because the bible said so and the bible is true because it's the word of god.....and......ohhhh whatever you are all going to hell
Our currency should read "IN GODS AND SCIENCE WE TRUST", to include polytheistic religions, and not to endorse a monotheistic religion. This will break down the idea that America is a christian nation. Then we can work on making it "IN SCIENCE WE TRUST"
If the rest of us have to see the wacky 'Jesus' billboards - then you Christo-Fascists will have to swallow this... get over it! And the 'Dollar Bill' ... therefore it must be true?? Really - are you all fucking morons over there?
The government says there is a god, therefor there must be one... LOL... And Oh no, kids might ask questions of there parents belief??? So, should atheist parents get all upset about "Only Jesus can save you" or some other religious billiards? Oh that's right atheists believe in questioning authority and using reason and logic to make decisions, and don't count of kids ignorance to inform the decisions.
Oh no kids may start questioning they parents. They are supposed to question they parents especially now when they have access to so much information on whatever subject they like while their parents are satisfied by the scraps of knowledge dished out by the TV. How can they not question the generation that is lost in the modern world but is set in its ways so much that they don't want to learn anything new. And the parents always act as if they always knew better because they are older. BS!
First of all, children should be encouraged to question, and especially their parents. Their parents are suppose to be safe adults to talk to about life's questions. Second, I do wonder if that gentleman likes everything his government writes, or is doing.
This is the same government that declared pizza a vegetable. So obviously they have the intelligence and credibility to decide if there is a God or not.
what a grwat place for COCORE to put this billboard. the springs is FULL of religious lunatics (focus on the family, new life church) this made me want to get a hold of these people, see about joining in fort collins
I think it's a great idea! We have a billboard here where I live that has a picture of a phone and the caption reads, "God Is Calling, Are You Gonna Answer?" Every time I pass it I want to puke, just from being reminded that I live in a world where people are that retarded.
@MultiTrogdor we can't be having kids learn to question authority now! jeez, if they don't learn to blindly follow authority the system will collapse! oh wait, no it won't
that girl is D U M B
KeySour 14 hours ago
The first person she talked to is just like most of the people here. THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS A PRIVATE BANK AND NOT PART OF THE GOVERMENT. The federal reserve loans the money it prints to the goverment and federal reserve notes are the property of the federal reserve.
KasperNightwolf 1 day ago
"They might question their parents?"
OH NOES!
I have to quote our beloved Dawkins here: "If I'm arming children to go and argue with their parents, what could be better than that?"
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Funny that most don't know that "In god we trust" was not put on paper money until after the summer of 1954. And we all know how trustworthy and divine our lawmakers are - don't we? Just another way to control the masses - make 'em afraid of an unknowable invisible deity in the sky - and you better love him or you’re doomed to eternal damnation!
ShogMan 5 days ago
It sounds a little condescending. I would've preferred "God is a manmade fiction" rather than "imaginary friend".
CBCBanana1 6 days ago
omg they kids might question their parents :O!!! No way, I prefer them to believe in the possibility of burning in eternity.
johnolin 1 week ago
hahaha, ha ha ha, hahahaha some people still believe in God?
firewolfstone 1 week ago
well if the government says it's true it must be true.
slytherinspy1960 1 week ago
GOD IS REAL... AND WE WE ALL DIE YOU/PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH..........
IREVENI 1 week ago
I don't understand how this billboard is any more "offensive" than say, a billboard for Hooters. The point is to make them question. If you can't answer your children's questions about God, then maybe you need to 1) rethink your belief system or 2) become more knowledgeable about something that you preach.
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This is part of living in a country of free speech. Evangelicals have a habit of forgetting that "freedom" applies to all Americans, not just them.
BTW the first guy interviewed proves his poor logic. Saying "the gov't acknowledges Him" applies to Appeal to Authority, and believing something because others believe in it is known as the Bandwagon Effect.
raspberrymuffin 2 weeks ago 2
Great billboard..... on your face Evangelists!
Antimoron2 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos 5
even the gov't says so!
you have no right make assertions in the public square to make my child doubt my superstitious beliefs!
my favorite tardtastic objections
cherrydog9 2 weeks ago
Awsome Billboard!
Dokkasan 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Oh my GOD (no pun intended). I'm changed forever. I used to not believe in any kind of a greater being but now I know I was wrong the whole time. This proves it. God does exist. The dollar bill says so.
Philfan107 2 weeks ago
Geez, some people are so stupid. It's simple: test what you believe with science, reason and logic. Ask questions and THINK! I did and I believe in God.
ak3hiker 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This proves how ignorant and gullible religious people really are....
IcarusTouma 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
its the fucking truth for chrissakes
phildirt3 3 weeks ago
I think this is great but they need a name that doesn't sound like "coke whore" when you pronounce it!
Pearlcussion 3 weeks ago
It's true!
Cibermonster 3 weeks ago
the aware!!! the atheist billboard!! hide your children!!
hongyewu 3 weeks ago
I have to say it's quite the oxymoron to call anyone who still uses such childish things as faith a true ally of secularism. I will not adjust my own actions to avoid upsetting believers, because what is disturbing is how little support there actually exists of these superstitious beliefs. People use their faith throughout the world to justify insane things from suicide bombing, slavery, all the way to genital mutilation. You should be upset that your beliefs can be used this way. I sure am.
mikeag452008 3 weeks ago
These arguments........ T_T
baahhhFATALITY11 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from AtheistMediaBlog
The truth hurts. Doesn't it believers???
godfreewoman 3 weeks ago
The religious crazies finally have competition.
At least it makes sense!
kryten4k 3 weeks ago 2
lol "the US government recognizes him as a being" yeah let's do something about that too.
kyebean 3 weeks ago
Advertising for atheists is so easy. Just put up the billboard and contact your local news station. Free, free publicity.
DeadFishFactory 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I love that lady talking about how it's "inappropriate" for a group to decide what her children are exposed to. I suppose she doesn't mind the acres of religious billboards plastered up and down every damn highway in the country...
jerico641 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos 4
There are plenty of billboards saying "CHRIST IS LORD" etc. There were bus ads in Britain a few years ago saying something similar. However I do wonder what some of the Atheists really want because I know that some of them rather enjoy their exclusivity and like feeling superior to others. "I grew out of my imaginary friend, but YOU didn't! Ha ha!"
benthejrporter 4 weeks ago
I wish we could have them all over the country.
lhurien 1 month ago 4
I know I'm not American, but isn't there some sort of First Amendment right to free speech? :P
The woman saying effectively "no, no, parents have the right to control who talks to their children and what they say".
derangedyoshi 1 month ago
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@Voiceofreason4677 Well the reason you are against this sign is irrational. You suffer from a problem that Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins all talk about extensively; That we are raised to believe that confronting religion is taboo and offensive. In every other subject, from science, to politics, to economics - challenging other people is perfectly fine, but people like you have it ingrained in their heads that religion is an off limits topic. Wrong answer kid
Sanosukeafo 1 month ago
"If a kid reads it they might question their parents".... So what if the kid's parents are atheists and the kid see's signs and billboards from a religious orginization (like there are all over North Carolina)... what do the kids think Hmmm? Stupid betch lol.
Also, the guy who used "God on money" argument was a real loser. Many of the founding fathers we're not Christians, they were Deists (why they left Britain in the first place!) Even Thomas Jefferson took a damn sharpie to his bible lol.
Sanosukeafo 1 month ago
So the women thinks it will be bad if children see the sign? Maybe she would rather teach them about how the bible condones genocide, racism, tribalism, and the mandated murder of children, women, and homosexuals. The bible is the most immoral book ever written. Ever.
northoforacle 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
god forbid a child questions their retarded parents. gotta keep the stupidity level at a maximum or gods gonna burn your house down.
metalfaced0om 1 month ago 34
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Anybody else realized how the word "cocore" sounds like? -_-
dleiros 1 month ago
Anybody else realized how the word "cocore" sounds like? -_-
dleiros 1 month ago
1:28 but isn't there a thing called "the separation of religion and state"
Aileflyer 1 month ago
Yeah, lady, "god" forbid that kids might dare to question their parents' beliefs.
jerico641 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
Top three arguments against the billboard:
1.) It says "In God We Trust" on the dollar bill, so obviously he's not imaginary.
2.) Kids might start asking questions.
3.) It's okay to put ads for McDonald's and Coca-Cola on billboards for kids to see, however, if an ad promotes thinking instead of poor health choices, it's not appropriate.
serialclone 1 month ago 65
In god we trust on our currency didn't start until 1957, under Pres. Eisenhower, in response to the perceived threat the godless Soviet Union so it appears, under this 'logic' that god is only 55 years old.
billwalkerable 3 weeks ago
@serialclone In all honesty, just posting "God is imaginary" on a buildboard doesn't make anyone think. This is really just a dick move.
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@flyersphan111 Of course it will make people think. Say you have a job and your boss tells you simply that you're not performing up to expectations. Your first reaction will be to find out exactly what, if anything, you're doing wrong so you could affirm or refute that claim.
Any halfway rational person would look at this sign and ask, "what makes these people say God is imaginary? Do I have any evidence to suggest that he's not?"
serialclone 1 week ago
@serialclone Yeah. I guess so. However, most people don't think like that. Were you ever religious? If so, you can probably remember how if someone questioned your belifefs, you probably reacted in anger, even though you couldn't come up with anything to reject their claim.
flyersphan111 1 week ago
@flyersphan111 That's precisely the reason the phrasing is necessary. Let's say they wanted to put up a sign saying that Bigfoot is imaginary. There likely wouldn't be much fuss about it despite there being a fair number of adamant Bigfoot believers who might possibly react in anger. But when we say the same about deities, there is a big fuss. What gives religion this free pass to not be offended?
serialclone 1 week ago
@serialclone I see where you're coming from. I don't really think there's that much of a need to say it like this though. When I was religious, I would have just pretended that I never even read this sign and move along. In fact, it would probably discourage me from questioning my beliefs, just because there was a chance that I could be wrong. Oh well. Different people think differently I guess.
flyersphan111 1 week ago
@serialclone What they didn't mention is that every one of them -- to a human -- thinks it's okay to advertise religion on billboards.
cliffwalkinfool 1 week ago
@serialclone
you've just explained why most Americans are retarded and obese.
siddharthjoshi91 1 week ago
I agree with the sign and it's use, but somehow i would feel bad if it was about santa.
stendak 1 month ago 2
"I don't think someone else should choose what are children see" so should all billboards be taken down
mage1over137 1 month ago
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Why are non-Christians EXPECTED to see Christian billboards all over the place?? Then Christians whine when someone else does it. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
coyoteself 1 month ago
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coyoteself 1 month ago
What do atheists hope to accomplish really?? Belief in God isn't even debatable, people are either going to believe in God or not
DDP3NIKilla 1 month ago
@DDP3NIKilla true that
Appalachian85 1 month ago
@DDP3NIKilla There are some people who feel that they need to believe in God because everyone around them believes. The billboard is to show those people that there are other people that don't believe in God, too, so they don't have to continually lie to themselves.
DeadFishFactory 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@DDP3NIKilla It's being debated here.
stendak 1 month ago
@DDP3NIKilla That's the sad part. Theists won't read anything that might dissuade them from their ridiculous beliefs and non-theists can't imagine that any rational thinking human can really accept such tripe.
beanie928 1 month ago 2
there s religious billboards everywhere in god we trust on the money if the us government recognizes it it must be true thats funny
phildirt3 1 month ago
i have to poo
clintongraham 1 month ago
Ooh, scary - the kids might start asking questions! If that lady's confident of her mega-being, why would a few questions worry her?
Peace.
klhcc 1 month ago 2
By the way, the only reason that US currency say "In God We Trust" is that cox their money is not backed by anyth.
In most other countries, u'd normally find "Promise to the bearer" such and such amount. A greenback doesn't even make that promise
vinniechan 1 month ago
Why not? If religious people feel they are entitled to put up advert board (paying for it), then why aren't people do so with a different message?
vinniechan 1 month ago
God IS an imaginary friend. Therefor people should be made aware whether they fucking like it or not :D.
GenerationBright 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
While I have no problem with the billboard myself and am an Atheist, the way in which the billboard's message is giving forth is a deliberate attempt to antagonize believers. Saying "God is an imaginary friend" is essentially viewed as a form of an insult to many believers. While it may be true or not (I view it as true), such a thing is not well accepted when you add the order of "choose reality." This billboard will just create more hostility in an attempt of deconversion.
voiceofreason4677 1 month ago
@voiceofreason4677 "This billboard will just create more hostility in an attempt of deconversion."
Billboard talking about God being imaginary is offensive,
but arguing endlessly with Christians using Acharya arguments that Jesus is Myth is not offensive?
oh the irony.......
justintempler 1 month ago
@justintempler I've never argued that Jesus is a myth using acharya's formation of argument. What the hell are you talking about? Questioning that Jesus existed because he is based on archetypes and the evidence suggest an evolution of Christianity with no Historical Gesnsis of Christ is not offensive, it's engaging in the evidence. Saying the Gospels represent midrash is not offensive at all. Are you a Christian apologist or something?
voiceofreason4677 1 month ago
@voiceofreason4677 "Are you a Christian apologist or something?"
Answer: or something. I'm an atheist that is not afraid to criticize atheists making bad arguments. Christians have an emotional attachment to their beliefs and when you present the arguments of a pseudo scholar like Acharya S that are full of obvious and numerous errors you give Christians the justification to see YOU as the irrational person and you end up reinforcing their beliefs instead of challenging them.
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justintempler 1 month ago
@justintempler My bad. You were quoting Voiceofreason4677.
No need to get pissy kid. :P
Sanosukeafo 1 month ago
@Sanosukeafo I see your problem now, try reading my comment in context.
voiceofreason says he can see how the sign is offensive but can't see his own actions as offensive. I was pointing at his hypocrisy.
P.S. and seeing something as being offensive ≠ being against something. Freedom of speech means not being shielded from offensive billboards. So even IF I had found it to be offensive. That does NOT translate into being against the sign.
justintempler 1 month ago
@justintempler Again, I have never used any of the arguments by Murdock to say that Jesus never existed. I stated that the Christian myths about Jesus being portrayed in the Gospels have been lifted from earlier miracle stories about other gods and heroes. Saying I just read Murdock is like to me saying that Joseph Campbell never existed and shaped most of the field of Comparative Mythology and folklore studies to this date. I mean, Hero Archetype anyone? In short: Campbell>Achary
voiceofreason4677 1 month ago
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@voiceofreason4677 Trying to communicate to you is like talking to a brick wall.
You do way more than "read" Murdoch. You are a regular on her blogs, and use her arguments in your debates.
Her material was used for the conspiracy movie Zeitgeist that claims that what Christians know as Jesus is a fabrication constructed from previous myths of former mythical gods combined with her astro-theology BS mixed in.
Hence my statement "using Acharya arguments that Jesus is Myth"
justintempler 1 month ago
@justintempler "You are a regular on her blogs, and use her arguments in your debates."
Um... really? When have I used her arguments in a debate? How am I a regular on her blog? I am a regular on her forums, but that's because I find some of the discussions there rather enlightening, not because follow Acharya S.
voiceofreason4677 3 weeks ago
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@voiceofreason4677 "How am I a regular on her blog? I am a regular on her forums"
Yes I misspoke, I meant her forums. Your posts are there for anyone to read.
Are you really that dense? Acharya S's arguments are what you defend when you defend Zeitgeist part one. She even helped with the corrections in the revised version of Zeitgeist and co-wrote the source guide for Zeitgeist.
rather enlightening? Garbage In -> Garbage Out
justintempler 3 weeks ago
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Religious fanaticism permeated the Middle East 20 centuries ago & still does. Only the names change - sun god, god the son, JC, Allah, etc..
billwalkerable 3 weeks ago
@billwalkerable If we really wanna be fair, we have to admit that religious fanaticism has been around the planet for quite sometime and only in the past 200 years have we seen a decline towards a more secular society. However, being mean hateful to believers that are not fanatics just because they believe in a god is both illogical and making enemies that could be allies towards secularism.
voiceofreason4677 3 weeks ago
@voiceofreason4677 Going on 86, my own 'activism' consists of letters to the editor in response to those of people 'pushing' religion. Until a few years ago, it was also removing roadside litter, such as crosses, etc.
billwalkerable 3 weeks ago
I think that we, as a secular people, should put the phase "God is an Imaginary Friend" on our legal tender in place of the delusionary phrase that still soils our money. I shall notify the DOT ASAP.
srkane48 1 month ago
ha ha..Co-Core. Sounds like Coke Whore.
rguimond 1 month ago
its speaking the truth
clintongraham 1 month ago
Children may question their parents? God forbid!
forger42 1 month ago 2
talk about stupid arguments against the billboard
requiemdexter 1 month ago
So if the government recognizes unicorns, that makes them real?
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Of course the Christians, following Jesus' message of peace and turn the other cheek will be up on ladders putting graffiti all over it, no doubt.
If you can't win people over to your point of view with common sense and evidence, try force!!!
How transparent!
Well it hasn't happened yet but you KNOW it's likely.
warren52nz 1 month ago
@warren52nz Ah yes, but how many so-called "Christians" actually follow the teachings of Christ? Certainly not evangelical/fundamentalist "Christians." They are no different than radical fundamentist Muslims, imho. They practice a kind of sharia law themselves. Their God is an "imaginary friend", and an evil one. But it's all made up, so who really gives a shit? I say put up the billboard, but be prepared for the barrage of stupidity that will followers of fundamentalism. It's worth it.
srkane48 1 month ago
@srkane48 "how many so-called "Christians" actually follow the teachings of Christ?"
Not many in my experience. I don't know ANYONE who owns a slave!
Ephesians 6:5-9
8^)
But a big part of what Christ (is said to have) taught is about peace and love. He was really more of a liberal hippy than anything else. Yet the people who worship him tend to be right wing conservatives, the very opposite.
None of it makes sense which is why I don't buy into it.
warren52nz 1 month ago
@warren52nz Actually, it seems to me that the best thing about contemporary Christians is that most don't follow their creed. If they did just imagine all those weirdy beardys stoning adulterers and the plethora of handless ball grabbers.
MrMonkeyInk 1 month ago
@warren52nz I totally agree with you. Jesus Christ, as I see Him at least, was more of a progressive humanist with environmentalist leanings. Evangelical/fundamentalists are, therefore, the antithisis of Christ. Hmm, would that make them minions of the "Anti-Christ" perhaps? I'm just saying....
srkane48 1 month ago
@srkane48 There's a really good video in here somewhere that points out that virtually none of the Christians are actually behaving like Christians are supposed to behave. Had a brief look yesterday but couldn't find it.
eg. In the Bible it says something like "It's easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven"
So all those mega-rich evangelists with multiple mansions are doomed. They obviously don't believe their own bullshit! 8^)
warren52nz 1 month ago
@warren52nz I'm dating myself here, but have you ever seen the orignal "Oh God" with George Burns and John Denver? The God that GB plays is exactly the king of "imaginary friend" that I would love to have. There's a funny scene where God calls a particular tele-vangelist from a mega-church on the carpet for being a greed pig and not following the teachings of his Son. I think that God got the slimebag on tax-evasion and the Orange County mega-church declared bankruptcy. God got it right!
srkane48 1 month ago
@srkane48 Yeah I've seen The God's Must be Crazy twice. It was hilarious. It walked the thin line between Theism and Atheism so both groups could enjoy it.
Somehow I doubt you'd "outdate" me. 8^)
I remember seeing 2001: A Space Odyssey" when it was first released and The Sound of Music.
warren52nz 1 month ago
@srkane48 Sorry I meant "Oh God" with George Burns. The "Gods Must be Crazy" is a whole 'nuther thing. Even funnier though.
warren52nz 1 month ago
God forbid a child would question his/her parents!
smrt606 1 month ago
Oh no the children will see it and question their parent's that have been working so hard on indoctrinating them with their flavor of cool aid.
jimmyg4life 1 month ago 2
Oh wow!, "god must be true cause he's even on the money"!?!?
That guy was made of fail!!
Redshift21 1 month ago 15
Go post it to Mecca if you have the balls pussies.
anaspapas 1 month ago
As an atheist that runs a local atheist group I have to say that this one goes a little too far. Asserting there is no god and likening him to an imaginary friend is exactly the type of thing that makes reasonable theists close their ears to what we have to say.
simbeau 1 month ago
@simbeau "this one goes a little too far..."
Moderate measures haven't worked (predictably).
If you look through history you'll see that major changes like the one the educated people are trying to promote here take radical movements.
Remember women's Lib? Out in numbers protesting, burning bras, etc, etc.
I don't think putting up a billboard is going far enough if you ask me.
But you didn't of course.
Approaching the issue like a pussy won't accomplish anything.
warren52nz 1 month ago
@simbeau Your group wouldn't happen to be in Seattle, would it? I'm looking for such a club. Atheist groups are difficult to google or bing as most athiests in my neck of the woods seem timid about expressing their convictions in public and therefore remain closeted. As a result,many Atheists are never really themselves outside of their own private confines.They conceal an important part of their identity therefore appearing bland and mysterious. Sort of like the closeted Mormon, Mitt Romney.
srkane48 1 month ago
@srkane48 No, i'm in canada. Google the seattle atheists and you're good to go.
simbeau 1 month ago
@simbeau Thanks Man, I can't believe that I didn't find this website before. Atheists are indeed alive and well in Seattle and I plan on visiting their local chapter on Darwin Day, Feb. 12th, for their annual celebration. They have a plethera of different events and meetings scheduled on a regular basis. Talking to realists who use science as their measure for the "meaning of life" and debunk the delusions of the superstitious masses is better than talking to a head-shrinker. Vive le Canada!
srkane48 1 month ago
It must be true because it is on the money....like the Freemasonry all seeing eye. Tosser.
William00048 1 month ago
its not fair for them to tell other peoples kids what to believe. its not like religious organisations have billboards.
shepchri88 1 month ago
aaw those poor US Christians are being oppressed again.
herringla 1 month ago
Oh someone wrote "In God we trust" on a dollar bill so it must automatically be true!
Will someone please send that poor man back to school because where ever he went the first time they obviously failed.
ButterflyChristie 1 month ago 14
Finally, someone had the cajones to say it... on a billboard no less!
I love those guys!
RevElMundo 1 month ago
Oh, no. Kids might question their parents.
Rarae192 1 month ago 2
"Its written on the dollar bill so he's real" -> now thats an intelligent american right there :D
Lucassandro25 1 month ago 2
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CJonesApple 1 month ago
The stupid guy said: "If it's on our dollar bills (In god we trust) its because the government recognizes it as a being"... LOL... This world is fucked up!! People dont think!! Why they dont make a news segment talking about Christian billboards and asking non-believers of all kinds what they think about it? I have lots to say about Christian billboards.
cre599 1 month ago
lol we need more of these bill board great job guys keep on going
alirezamoeini 1 month ago
i'm a parent, and an atheist, and my child can question me any time he or she likes to. THAT'S the ATHEIST difference!
marklethanarkle 1 month ago 2
Now I get it! God is on the dollar bill-- therefore She exists!
Well not quite-- that's why I support the Freedom from Religion Foundation, FFRF, POB 750, Madison, WI 53701
SuperGodless666 1 month ago
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It's not ok to question your parents america. About anything. EVER.
AtheisticTeenager 1 month ago
@AtheisticTeenager You are just kidding, aren't you Atheistic Teenager? If I hadn't questioned my parents decades ago I would have ended up a total asshole. I have learned to question every person that I encounter, including parents and older siblings. The only person you can really trust in this cynical and often dishonest world, is yourself, but you probably already are discovering that reality.
srkane48 1 month ago
@srkane48 Hmmm, guess I shouldn't be so heavy on sarcasam.
AtheisticTeenager 1 month ago
@AtheisticTeenager Nah, I knew that you weren't serious, sorry for the soapbox lecture, but I had to make sure that you knew that it is totally ok to question the opinions of parents.
srkane48 1 month ago
so churches are alowed to put up signs saying things like 'jesus is the only path to paradice' but we cant put up a sign that says otherwise. the sad thing is that that sign is most likely going to be vandilised as soon as it goes up
Bayzz2 1 month ago
@Bayzz2 Spot on!
MagnumDB 1 month ago
@Bayzz2 Amen to that! I was in Phoenix last week to visit some homesick friends, and fundamentalist Christianity and Mormonism was posted everywhere. It was like something out of an Orwell novel. Having said that, however, I would prefer that fellow atheists not be so blatant about the fact that "God" is really just an imaginary friend. There is no way to effectively market this slogan to believers. The arguement usually fails. They must figure it out for themselves. Some actually do.
srkane48 1 month ago
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DoneWithDogma 1 month ago
Is it just me or does anybody else find the fact that the reporters name is Mecca funny?
andrewhover 1 month ago
If billboards propagating the belief that God exists are allowed (and they are, I've seen them), then billboards doing the opposite should be allowed. Plain and simple.
Crissix100 1 month ago 12
I think it would be a lot more accurate for the billboard to say "How do you know God is not just an imaginary friend?".
sameer137 1 month ago
will somebody please think of the children!!!
southpawOO7 1 month ago
@southpawOO7 as in tell them the truth or?????
TheKodaman666 1 month ago
@TheKodaman666 it was joke... I think thats a trivial problem
southpawOO7 1 month ago
Billboards shouldn't exist. They are distractions. They enrich the few. They interfere with the natural flow of the atmosphere. They often become deadly in a tornado. They utilize toxic inks, fasteners and exert stress on overfilled landfills after the skins are faded. The material used is extremely non-biodegradable. The messages are oft confusing, divisive and almost always biased. They use electricity inefficiently. I could go on and on. Hope you get my drift. - Dr Joseph Huntington (MENSA)
JosephHuntington 1 month ago
@JosephHuntington That's actually the best arguement against this billboard that I've read on this thread. Billboards distract drivers and should be banned. But then you'd get all the extream defenders of the Ist Amendment in an uproar. I guess let it stand, but I agree with sameer who suggests that the statement be rephrased into a question--How do you know God is not just an imaginary friend? It sounds more scientific.
srkane48 1 month ago
The woman saying "and then they'll question their parents..." I lol'ed so hard at her hesitation to say what she was really thinking. In other words, "And then they won't be able to control them." Well I say, good. Respect is earned by everybody and questioning everything prevents you from being duped.
SLRCRowbot 1 month ago 3
Fuck yeah !
oralyon 1 month ago
National TV coverage for the cost of putting up a billboard. Win.
TheNamesBettyNyahhh 1 month ago 17
trololololololololool
thefianna 1 month ago
How can you be offended!!!!???! If you are offended by this you have lost your right to be heard, anywhere! In any context! Kids questioning they're parents is a bad thing?
ceclovitch 1 month ago 3
Put Darwin on the currency like in the UK.
cheese1hacker 1 month ago 28
God exist because the bible said so and the bible is true because it's the word of god.....and god exist because the bible said so and the bible is true because it's the word of god.....and god exist because the bible said so and the bible is true because it's the word of god.....and......ohhhh whatever you are all going to hell
scubandre1 1 month ago
Our currency should read "IN GODS AND SCIENCE WE TRUST", to include polytheistic religions, and not to endorse a monotheistic religion. This will break down the idea that America is a christian nation. Then we can work on making it "IN SCIENCE WE TRUST"
realoldguy1969 1 month ago
@realoldguy1969 I still prefer "E Pluribus Unum," myself :X
AFunkyMilkman 1 month ago
If the rest of us have to see the wacky 'Jesus' billboards - then you Christo-Fascists will have to swallow this... get over it! And the 'Dollar Bill' ... therefore it must be true?? Really - are you all fucking morons over there?
2001Horatio 1 month ago 5
the name sounding like "coke whore" is the coolest thing about the story. but that is the greatest billboard ever.
fukkensully 1 month ago
0:14 coke whore?
castleskeptic 1 month ago 4
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castleskeptic 1 month ago
i'd fuck that news anchor.
TheNickFiles 1 month ago
The government says there is a god, therefor there must be one... LOL... And Oh no, kids might ask questions of there parents belief??? So, should atheist parents get all upset about "Only Jesus can save you" or some other religious billiards? Oh that's right atheists believe in questioning authority and using reason and logic to make decisions, and don't count of kids ignorance to inform the decisions.
Loathomar 1 month ago 3
Oh no kids may start questioning they parents. They are supposed to question they parents especially now when they have access to so much information on whatever subject they like while their parents are satisfied by the scraps of knowledge dished out by the TV. How can they not question the generation that is lost in the modern world but is set in its ways so much that they don't want to learn anything new. And the parents always act as if they always knew better because they are older. BS!
matewek 1 month ago
For those of you who don't know, the people here in COS sound ALOT like those two morons they interviewed.
Comment 666?
rejectorphanageX 1 month ago
First of all, children should be encouraged to question, and especially their parents. Their parents are suppose to be safe adults to talk to about life's questions. Second, I do wonder if that gentleman likes everything his government writes, or is doing.
joyville2 1 month ago
The people they interviewed out in public obviously believe in God because of their shitty half-assed answers.
eternalgracenote 1 month ago
God is a faggot.
eternalgracenote 1 month ago
Well, if he's on a dollar bill he must be real, sorry what?
arranhillen 1 month ago 3
@arranhillen Yeah, I saw it there too. Looks kinda like a big bug zapper.
eddieVroom 1 month ago
Why doesn't all the Christian billboards cause such a fuss?
Then again, free advertising for the Atheists every time, well beyond the cost of the billboard itself.
AGrandt 1 month ago
oh.....fuck......
"even the US government recognizes him therefore it's real"
what. what? WHAT WHAT WHAT WAHT WHAIAWHINDFOIDSNOIVBNSDO[ZNM'ASDPLM
BrendanIsCool 1 month ago 3
I have often asked my theist friends to tell me how their god DIFFERS from an imaginary friend. I have not yet received an answer
irish655 1 month ago 6
This is the same government that declared pizza a vegetable. So obviously they have the intelligence and credibility to decide if there is a God or not.
GoOrange0711 1 month ago 5
@mrpayne123 It's also helping transform us from minority to majority. If you're under 30, you'll live to see it.
indignant99 1 month ago
@OldSchoolSkill I'd like to change the motto just a teensy-weensy bit: IN GOLD WE TRUST.
indignant99 1 month ago
Bring on the billboards. Make kids question their parents!
antonahill 1 month ago
Will someone please think of the children?
AxeHomeless 1 month ago
more accurately, god is an imaginary frenemy.
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KEvronista 1 month ago 39
what a grwat place for COCORE to put this billboard. the springs is FULL of religious lunatics (focus on the family, new life church) this made me want to get a hold of these people, see about joining in fort collins
37butterflyprincess 1 month ago
I think it's a great idea! We have a billboard here where I live that has a picture of a phone and the caption reads, "God Is Calling, Are You Gonna Answer?" Every time I pass it I want to puke, just from being reminded that I live in a world where people are that retarded.
TheDude0fLife 1 month ago
"if a kid reads it... they might question their parents." EXACTLY.
MultiTrogdor 1 month ago 9
@MultiTrogdor we can't be having kids learn to question authority now! jeez, if they don't learn to blindly follow authority the system will collapse! oh wait, no it won't
37butterflyprincess 1 month ago