You are talking about cloud seeding, a matter of national pride here in Australia as it was largely pioneered by the CSIRO.
youtube.com/watch?v=1Kw5uTuhH6 0
youtube.com/watch?v=nv7D_UCHas Q
You want a licence to do it in texas?
Here you go:
licenseDOTstateDOTtxDOTus/weat her/weathermod.htm
Why do ignorant people seem to think they have discovered a secret unique to them when they learn about things that were common knowledge decades ago?
You do not understand. No one denies there are trails in the sky. The issue is that you do not understand how and why the trails form. The REAL reason they form has been known for over 70 years and all pilots , scientists and meteorologists and intelligent people know that trails are water ice crystals because the temp at altitude is about -50C and planes leave 8tons of water per hour in their exhaust which freezes.
Note that the syndrome you refer to is a result of fumes that don't originate OUTSIDE the plane.
If there were "chemtrails" in the sky and they were dangerous and toxic, then over a million passengers PER DAY would be breathing COMPRESSED "chemtrails" and would be dead.
In fact pilots and crews are healthier than the average population despite breathing concentrated trail filled air year after year .
Why are they so healthy on average. Because of the trails they breathe daily?
Yes, the fumes in aerotoxic syndrome come from the plane engine itself, like rerouting your exhaust pipe back into your car.
They are irrelevent to the discussion of "Chemtrails" other than that flight crew unions are extremely militant about it and monitor air quality carefully. It occurs on poorly maintained aircraft due to cost cutting.
It therefore occurs on a small number of planes.
If the cause were "chemtrails" it would occur on ALL planes equally.
Now all this cant be leak of oil as you will hear the man say the air comes from outside of the plane ,and it also says in this video it smelt and every day if you go outside take a whiff you will smell it because it`s` in the air 24/7
@GregOrca Well Done Greg clouds are water " but Chemtrails are a mixture of Toxics ". We The people who pay the wages of civil servants will not be Lied to anymore enough is enough. Your Banta holds No proof but underneath my video Why there was No summer 2009/2010 does have proof of a geoengineering website where you can even email them to order your weather snow,sun or LACK OF ,storm,snow, Looks like I`m going to be adding 2011 to my Title aswell.
@GregOrca Yes they cloud seed " But they also Chemtrail." Oh and it is No secret as much as they try to keep it secret . It should be banned all over the world they have No rights without our consent to put this crap into the air we breathe then have the cheek to try & Tax us for it when it`s` all man made Just like Climate gate was prooved to be.
We Don`t` want it & we deffinatly don`t need it shortening our lives.I showed you link peoples symptoms and crops having fungus growing on it ECOLI
If what you said was true then 7billion people would be afflicted.
They are not.
Your claim is bunk.
If the sky was full of Aluminum and barium and fairy dust or whatever nonsense you believe in then the approx 80,000 passenger flights PER DAY world wide would come in to contact with these materials and it would accumulate and be detected in the cabin pressurisation systems.
It is NOT.
That means the materials you claim are NOT IN THE SKY.
That's from overheated engine oil and hydraulic fluid which enters the cabin because it is th eengine's compressor stages which direct bleed air into aircraft ecs systems for the crew and passengers to breathe.
If the sky was full of aluminium and barium the cabin pressurisation system would fill up with such materials.
Did you attend school? You seem to have great difficulty understanding even very simple science subjects and understanding what people are saying.
@GregOrca You asked " Did you attend school?" Yes I had my helping of brain washing Thank You I see You went on to get more of the same LOL
Then I discovered Freedom and broke out of the uniformed brain washing system Thank God .
What would Organophospates be doing in oil hahaha Organo-Phosphates were used as nerve gases during WW2 and are used to spray crops gmo FRANKINSTIEN CROPS They are deadly
@GregOrca organophosphates are potent nerve agents, functioning by inhibiting the action of acetylcholinesterase (AChE) in nerve cells. They are one of the most common causes of poisoning worldwide, and are frequently intentionally used in suicides in agricultural areas. Organophophate poisoning may cause what is known as the 'suicide impulse' which may lead to the high level of suicides in some sectors of the agricultural industry .
@GregOrca HAHA Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) is considered by biologists to be the energy currency of life. It is the high-energy molecule that stores the energy we need to do just about everything we do.
It is present in the cytoplasm and nucleoplasm of every cell, and essentially all the physiological mechanisms that require energy for operation obtain it directly from the stored ATP. LOL
@GregOrca Not in the quantities that they are spraying it`s` not Normal. The soil needs a balanced amount its way over what it should be & the reason why cropsd have Fungus on them & why people are getting lung problems. The reason cancer, Vitamin d3 defiency ,Asthma,Lung deseases,Alzhimiers, and many more are on the Increase. Like it said in the article I sent You.
@GregOrca My God your email was as long as a toilet roll and you sent 3 times emails that long. Which proves you have copied and pasted it probably from a document the agency gave you because you came back 3 times in the space of 5 minutes. I know what I see and You won`t` change my mind because I to have researched and even have weather forecasters telling me they are CHEMTRAILS. Iv`e` blocked YOU
Go to flightradar dot com and see realtime flights across the uk when chemtrails are in the sky, Then you can filter out if they are civil or military.......only airlines show up...not the military......Then comment here that they are only contrails.....IF the chemtrail program is good WHY are they not telling the Public......Its been going on since the 70's......Research it.....Fresh Air....Mmmm
Very interesting. This shows that the flight patterns one can see in the sky over Oxfordshire and the North of England stretching well over England's borders are indeed systematic projects of cloud seeding and sulphuric aerosol sprayings have nothing to do with regular air traffic. Watch out for geo-engineering in your area, folks, and write to your local MP!
That was nothing like the real satalite. The real satalites show MASS Chemtrailing.
Airplanes used too leave Contrails that dissolved behind the airplane NOW they leave a massive long thick TRAIL which make sure our days are dull. They grow untill the whole sky is one mass WHITEOUT. Summertime dont exsist in UK anymore due too chemtrails, and Vitamin d3 defiency is common place here too.
@UkTruthSeeker2009 Wrong. You are spreading rumour & lies.. The persistence of contrails is entirely due to atmospheric conditions. The greater density of contrails is due to the increased efficiency of modern engines, burning more of the fuel & producing more water-vapour. There isn't room for anything other than cargo & fuel in the planes anyway.
@archolman No You are wrong not me. Water Vapour Lol Come on Do You really think were stupid enough to listen to this rubbish. This Morning I got Up at 6:15 the sky was clear and beautiful 1 hour later the sky was completely white it stunk aswell. It`s` nothing to do with Ice crystals,Water Vapour or weather conditions BECAUSE it happens whatever the weather Hot, cold, warm, rain, snow, If it were water vapour it wouldn`t` white out the sky all day long it would dissolve.chemtrails is Patented ;
@UkTruthSeeker2009 Water vapor is INVISIBLE dude. Contrails are water ice crystals. You are saying "if it was water it wouldn't white out the sky all day" What on earth do you think clouds are made from? WATER. What are contrails made from? WATER. So how come you don't say "clouds can't stay in the sky all day because they are made from water" Contrails are made from the exact same molecule so of course they can stay in the sky all day aswell. Water is water. Learn science, not BS
@GregOrca Clouds move that crap don`t` it stays put for the whole day if not longer sometimes.You know aswell as me what they are and they are not contrails They are Toxics Aluminum ,Barium ,Sulphur ,strontium etc these are toxics and we are breathing them into our lungs.Contrails dissipate behind the plane you can still see some doing that today although now the majority of air traffic is the CHEMSQUAD.
Of course the trails move. Just look at any time lapse.
youtube.com/watch?v=7DSM7RS094c
Try to tell me the trails in that vid don't move.
If there were ANY of those substances in the sky they would fill up airliners that take ALL their air from directly outside the plane, yet NONE of those substances are detected inside airliner cabin pressurisation systems .
@GregOrca Im talking about any the people down on the ground getting poisoned although there are cases of cabin crew getting brain damage. If they move its sometimes not that obvious because there`s` so much crap sprayed up there its hard to tell. People have only got to watch to know it`s` not right . Planes never used to leave a thick toxic trail that whites out the sky they are adding chemicals to the fuel ,some people would rather keep that quiet ? LOOK UP GEOENGINEERING PEOPLE !!
@GregOrca SORRY BUT YOUR WRONG I was alive in the 60`s and got pictures of the sky never did I see the sky so messed up as what it is now. STOP STICKING UP FOR THE MURDERERS
Now leave me alone that comment I wrote was 1 year ago and 3 weeks ago although I stand by what I said .
I noticed the spraying myself actually this is the reason Iv`e` spent the last few years on & off line watching this big assault on humanity and became Asthmatic as a result.
@GregOrca Yes but Gregg they wasn`t` as long as the National express in those days infact even up to the 90`s they wasn`t that long and also in those days clouds spread did not act like a curtain coming over the sky in a perfect line. We didn`t have huge circles around the sun & moon either or upside down mini rainbows 3 & 4 at a time . How come I BLOCKED YOU YET You still able to come through to me ?
You can't block people from commenting on a video that isn't yours!
LOL
Did you actually READ those science papers?
Dis you read the article from 1969 that documents the FACT that normal contrails can turn into cirrus cloud and cause complete overcast and did so REGULARLY even back in the 1960s?
It seems you want to BLOCK out anyone providing FACTS that contradict your BELIEF.
You exhibit the characteristics of a delusional cult follower
I Have seen all your lot`s` crap BS LIES & I don`t` care to see anymore Thank You .
Im Blocking You because IM SICK OF AGENCY DICTATORS Who pretend to know everything BUT copy & paste from some BS blog. Now please go away Your acting like a pyschopath I DON`T` HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOU OR ANY OTHER LIKE YOU.
@GregOrca Hahaha Nice Try Your purfetic do You know that . You carryon guarding your chemtrail videos Dear Iv`e` got better things to do The People know the truth I don`t` have to tell them they SEE for themselves. You remind me of another Gov Agency called Georgia she was Hunting me down and bombarding me with emails aswell LOL You have No proof of anything just BS links
I BLOCKED YOU FROM YOUR CHANNEL howcome your still able to get through does that little extra come with the job hehe ;)
You say "We didn`t have huge circles around the sun & moon" yet they are described in detail in ancient Greek and Roman documents by Aristotle, Aratus, Cicero, Seneca, Apulelius, Archimedes etc etc.
So their ancient writings, loved by historians for over a thousand years are forgeries?
@GregOrca Yes i wondered when that one was coming IT IS you lot WHO ARE MENTALLY DISTURBED PYSCHO`S` In need of the God gene Not us. Gregg dear youv`e` been drinking too much Fluoride its crystalised your brain & Pineal gland.
To quote from 1969 "It is certain that many occasions-30 to 40 days a year, say the cause of cirrus cloud cover is contrails. This cloud cover can take in a substantial part of a continent half the US"
"The spreading of jet contrails into extensive cirrus sheets is a familiar sight. Often, when persistent contrails exist from 25,000 to 40,000 ft, several long contrails increase in number and gradually merge into an almost solid interlaced sheet."
from Peter Kuhn," Airborne Observations of Contrail Effects on the Thermal Radiation Budget" published 1970.
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences Volume 27, Issue 6 (September 1970)
@tunny2000 I guess helicopters could pick people up? Can't see a reason to deny a jet aircraft at 14000 feet though. Rocket launchers would seem an unlikely threat.
True, I did some research. You researched on Wiki, right? So did I. Knowing that the "contrail" page was the real science you ignore, I went to the "Chemtrail" entry. Actually, it's the "Chemtrail Conspiracy" entry. Using the references at the bottom, here's what you had to research from:
14 Gov't or Military --I knew you would consider these anathema, so you didn't use these.
3 Items that can only be called "Edutainment" as they are nothing more than "stars" comments or movie review.
The remaining 16 references (I tried to not repeat) are all from news sources 1 is the KSLA report, now proven sloppy work from everyone involved 1 link was no longer available 9 links were decidedly con-"chemtrail" 4 links, I adjudged to be neutral and just 1, an op-ed piece was just a bit more than neutral on the "chem" side. 1 refefence was from a "ChemT Shill The other reading, of seven sources, 3 are scientific 2 are a known Shill (same one) 2 seem to be pro-"chem"
So besides believing your magic eyes and being able to discern chemical content from either ground level or video, just what and where exactly did you do your research?
If you can read you will see that Wikipedia is one tool, you can get information from many places, library, Wikipedia, follow the links in Wikipedia, mainstream media sometimes, common science, read about the black op community.
Common science? Since when? You blast me for my list of "mainstream" science and can't answer simple questions about the atmosphere. If you are using common science, please look for books published after 1900, at least.
Black-op community? Is that like spy stories and stuff? And how do you know it's true? Just pick the stories you like the best? Sorry, my bullshitometer goes off with just the mention of "black-ops". I know Hollywood and video games are make-believe
If this was some hundreds of years ago you would claim the earth was flat, because anything else wasnt mainstream common knowledge and science. But science is the pursuit of new knowledge and understanding, not sitting back, and dismiss everything new.
The fact that there is a conspiracy doesent effekt the subject in any way. It can either be true, not true or partly true or not true, dont missuse the word conspiracy for your bs.
The fact is that the people talking in the interviews are the prople who saw it, the reporter is the least interresting in that case.
Amazing how your simply refuse to look at real life, information so it will fit into your little world.
Magic eyes? Only pseudobullshit from an old woman.
Very easy, one use their eyes. If you can see the colour and the stripes then its rather close, okey. I know you are old but if you have poor eyes then use glasses.
Thats not true at all. A subject can be partly true, there is something to a subject but maybe not exactly what you thought from the beginning, or you are totally correct, or totally wrong.
You dont watch any information that speaks agains what you are saying, thats why you have a gigantic blindspot, and besides that your are totally ignorant.
Part true is enough for me to not use information in favor of something that is true. It's why I chose to study the science involved instead of some partly right explanation. Your blindspot means you don't see the BS out there and have blindly decided to follow a story told be shills selling books. Your choice.
Color and stripes are naturally occuring parts of the atmosphere, True. They mean nothing more than sometimes winds blow straight, some layers of the atmosphere have no turbulence and that light is refracting through water droplets or ice crystals in the clouds.
That's the real world. People have seen, told of, painted, photographed all of them for as long as men have looked up in wonder at the sky.
It's not my eyesight that is bad, it's your knowledge of what you see.
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No its not the reallity for many cities and areas. Today was crazy, these planes went over for some ours, then the sky wasnt just little hazy, it totally blocked out sun, sky everything. Gigantic trails.
No contrails, no persistent contrail, special trails that mainstream science doesent explain, you have yet failed to explain them.
You are getting your videos confused, True. This is a BBC short, not my video with the reporter.
And "people who saw it" is telling me to believe that people are able to discern chemical content from ground level AND that they don't know anything about the way the atmosphere works.
This video is absolutely bull crap some of these planes come equipted with Aerosol abuse to spray us like bugs and this video by the way was cut very short what was his next line (80% of these are chemtrail planes)
Thanks Shilltard I know Did you like my CHEMTRAIL VIDEO Didn`t they just go mad with the bloody things hey? Its like that ever day we never get a day where the sun is allowed to show. IT SUCKS and PLEASE pass my video to nasa because your video sucks too.
Sorry I wasn`t being nasty but you were asking Nasa to help chemtards and solve the problem of CHEMTRAILS But you was suppose to be filming the sky but you had it aimed at the trees and the sun? So sending that to Nasa would be daft my video as many trails see what they say about mine? I bet they wont they daren`t they haven`t the bottle.
The funny thing is that there are THOUSANDS of "experts" all over the world that agree with my position in this matter. There are ZERO experts that side with the chemtards! That is just a fact. Carnicom and Peterson are NOT experts in the fields of aviation or meteorology yet since they are "scientists", morons accept their words as fact. It is hilarious! Chemtards accept opinions AS fact ONLY if they mirror their own retarded beliefs. Yet, this isn't about opinion, it's about FACT. I win!
Thats not very funny and not very strange either. People are just waking up to this reality and this will hopefully come out in the open, and those who do this will have to explain what they are doing.
Your arguments are so poor you need to write in capslock so anybody will understand what you are whining about.
The fact that there are so menny planes is staggering to me, especially when I see them making layer after layer of fine dust in the air like I am in a gigantic polluting industry complex.
Lets agree everyone has the right to think for themselfs ok, I prefer common sence over blind faith.
Cars pullute our roads, industry pullutes our ground, boats pullute the seas, planes...are not?
Wow, popular routes that if within the right conditions would leave parallel lines and grid patterns. Notice the bit about the "roundabouts". I wish the chemtrail believers would understand the importance of this video.
Wonderful video! Easy to see and understand, which means chemtards will become confused and start seeing this as an admission by the Brit Gov that they spray stuff. They are such morons.
Doesent say much, there are many planes? So what, everyone know that.
The problem is when lowflying planes spray gigantic trails who stays the whole day blocking out sun and blue sky. Nothing changes that.
Funny to see old ladies trying to learn pseudoskeptic rules and ridicule, you have a long way to go thou, but we still know no one should take you seriously.
My kind?! You mean actually educated as opposed to those like you...paranoid and retarded. You're the one with your paranoid head up your ass...I'm laughing at you right now.
No that wasnt what i menat. I meant pseudoskeptics using ridicule and bullshit as their primary weapon in any discussion. No science, no logic no nothing. Just a hollow empty shell of ridicule that anyone can see thru who has the education.
I have TRIED to discuss this subject rationally with you retards...it's impossible! So, I decided to make you retards my entertainment...
Sue me...whiner!
And you are a MORON if you say I haven't provided science and logic in defense of my position. You obviously don't pay much attention. No wonder you fell for the "chemtrail" hoax. Fucking dope.
No you havent. The problem with you is that you start with the ridicule doctrine and then just burps out mainstream old knowledge. Nothing of what you have written have explained these trails, simply put.
Wrong again, stupid. I'm not "treathen" (LOL) by the subject, I'm one of very few that seems to understand the truth of the matter. I have a moral obligation to help my fellow man understand that he doesn't need to be frightened by lines of water vapor in the sky.
Still misusing "pseudo" I see...Not surprised, you ARE an idiot. You couldn't "destroy" me if you tried, you are dumber than dirt.
We both know Im wrong. Well you aint a choosen one if that what you are thinkink. You are actually one little marker in a chessboard in a global scale, they are counting on your stupidity, and in you case they have a succes.-
Well you have a moral oblication when you know you are right and have the truth on your side, in this case you have neither, you are just a psudobullshitter.
Also, this video explains the "x" and "grid patterns" in the sky. I'll bet you 100 bucks that you just couldn't understand how if your life depended on it...you are just that ignorant.
I understand that they block the sun. There are MANY things that are "matters of health and environment" that we don't think of! Why FOCUS on persistent contrails?!? I'll TELL ya why! Because you are an uneducated Chicken Little type that THINKS they understand the facts, but couldn't be more wrong if you wanted to be! There is a VERY good reason why those of us with ACTUAL educations don't agree with your paranoid bullshit. It's because we are MUCH smarter than you.
Really? Do you also realize in your pseudoskeptic mind of yours that geoengineering has been going on for many years now and weather modification is every nations wet dream, do you realize that to?
You either wont or can understand the most basic information. These plain aint flying that high, the climate at the time aint that cold for even ordinary contrails to form, so how can these amazing contrails form, that blocks the whole sky, form cloud like objects. No more sun and no more blue sky that day.
You seem to be slipping a bit. "These plain aint" is not the sign of a person capable of understanding standard English.
May I suggest you take a time-out? Your brain seems to be regressing. Your whole manage screams of regress. Have a cuppa, take a walk, cuddle your cat.....you need it badly.
Ad you probably know and understand, well maybe not... English isnt my primary language, so my misspelling, slang or whatever doesent really matter. You just lack argument and now you are desperate, so therefore you attack the only point you see you have a chance, my language.
But heym, we can take this in swedish if you prefer?
Yep, you are following the script well. So, can't answer a simple question, say the one asked by Shill.
How does compression figure in the formation of contrails?
Then you come back with nothing but name calling. It's what we expect. Can't show facts, so let's insult the messenger.
You have access to facts on the internet. You choose to not research to find them. You refuse to believe in any scientific principle that doesn't fit in your with your "chemtrail" story. Shameful.
You are just trying to copy what Im saying. The fact is thou, that you and your noisy friends cant answer the question, you cant explain it, neither with ordinary contrail science or with alternativ explanations.
Experts? Give me a break ok, you are no expert, hes no expert. You are loud pseudoskeptics with insults as your primary tools to dismiss the subject, and everyone with some kind of sense knows that to be bullshit.
There is a VERY simple reason why he won't answer...because he doesn't KNOW! He accepts only BULLSHIT as fact and couldn't be bothered to learn the truth. I will make a prediction, he will deny any scientific data, any facts, any what ever (that PROVES it's a hoax!) as long as he's alive. The guy couldn't be dumber if he wanted to be. He actually believes that he can educate himself on youtube. Will the hilarity ever end?! I hope not!
You need no facts, the important thing is for others to see that one shouldnt take you and what you claim serious, and absolutely not your ridicule bs, just a rhetoric for indviduals without no facts.
You want it to be that way, but the real life isnt so. I have learn my lessons from both Youtube, Wikipedia, links from Wikipedia, Books from the library. See how easy it was to conclude you are wrong?
And by the way, you are on Youtube aswell trying to indoctrinate people to belive your pseudononsense.
Hey, Shill Watch out. This guy is educated enough to be able to find things on Wiki. oooooo, i'm so scared. Surely it must be right when videos on YouTube and entries on Wiki say it is.
True, You are below idiocy. YT and Wiki!
That's so sad it's almost funny.
No, wait. It IS funny. You forgot to mention that you use chemtrail sites as well. Carnicom is an idiot and was spoofed about water. Some scientist.
Wow are you trying to take your ridicule to a new level now, you need someone to stand beside you to make any sense?
I discuss alot and I must say that you are very poor to come up with arguments, you are not even good at ridicule that are your primary weapon in discussions, actually you dont discuss, you just want to close the subject so there will be no discussion.
I have access information on the net, on the libaray, studies in school, I see what I see and what I film. I see what other fims, I see your nonscience and no credible answers in the subject, I have learn about weather modification, geoengineering, black operations and project.
The only thing you and your ragtag gang have is ridicule, insults and bullshit. If anyone doubt who is looking on this, I suggest they look at all your discussions and then decide if you got any kind of arguments.
More "magic eyes" theory to chemtrails. A video tape of an exhaust plume shows nothing more than you can use a video camera. You cannot possible tell without testing what a plume is composed of. And the whole persistence crap is wrong. Clouds are water vapor and they don't dissolve within minutes. So why should contrails, which are primarily water vapor?
How does compression figure in the formation of a contrail? You haven't answered that yet.
There have been tests and there will be more test, people are waking up to this reality and are demanding answers, while you sit there and talk and write bullshit.
I will make a prediction, you will deny any report, any news, any what ever as long as you are alive.
You arent interrested in the facts, you are not interrested in learning new things.
It doesent suit anyone to use ridicule as their primary rhetoric, but it certainly doesent suit old women.
No thats not true, I refuse to listen to noisy pseudoskeptics, I rather listen, read to real science with real scientists, then loudmouths on the Internet.
Yes, chame on you, chame on you for being that old and that inmature, you of all thise noisy insulting persons should know better then act as you came directly from the hood.
Further proof you have no idea what you are talking about and have nothing beyond a YouTube education. I heard the word "duppel" several times, and know how that word translates into English. Duppel is German for "chaff", something used since military started using planes. It's radar disrupting, so you get false targets. The lead-in to the story says duppel, the reporter says duppel, but the translation doesn't. More skewed information seen by a idiot and not researched. Try again.
Really? Its amazing to see how you pseudoskeptics always write in the same way? When will you get it, I actually dont give a shit about your ridicule strategy.
It says more about you then about me or the subject. The fact that you only have ridicule as your primary tool to discuss tells me that you havent got anything.
"The fact that you only have ridicule as your primary tool to discuss tells me that you havent got anything. "
You don't pay much attention, do you. I have explained MANY things to you idiots and you all react the same way...with MORE ignorance. I have seen many people explain many aspects of the facts behind these trails and not a single chemtard can understand the science. Blame your school...not us! It's not my fault that you're an idiot.
You say you "want to learn" but, the only people you want to learn from are OTHER idiots on the internet. Hilarious. You and all of your paranoid retarded friends are the wastes of space. Please present me with ONE SINGLE fact that proves there are extra "chemicals" in persistent contrails besides water vapor and combustion gases. You have NOTHING. You dismiss the science because you don't trust/understand it. You are ignorant and hilarious.
Well thats just pseudobullshit nothing more. You dont know what Im reading, you want to belive you know, because its the only way you cant fit it in your narrow and igrnorant thinking.
We have alot and more and more are waking up to this reality. And pseudoskeptic idiot like yourself cant stop it, I guess that must be frustrating in that way.
Learn some about contrails and persistent contrails and get back to me.
But its not all bad actually, when I see you and you ignorant comments, non science, your nonsense and then see that not all people are that way, is rather good to see. I always use you as a example not to be. We look at your comments, your rhetoric, your repeating of ridicule comments. You are a good example not to be if you want to approach any thing in a skeptic but open minded way, and get the scientific fact avaible.
Facts matter.. There are NONE on the paranoid side of this issue.
Please stop butchering language with your stupid use of the "pseudo" prefix. I'm embarrassed for you. I have several years of college Meteorology to back up my beliefs, you have youtube videos. You should be ashamed, yet you couldn't possibly understand why because you are just that ignorant about weather. Please get the book Meteorology by Jeppesen and LEARN something, fool.
And yet you dont present the facts, just ridicule and write bullshit, thats very odd actually.
You are a pseudoskeptic. Well if thats true Im very sad for you, many years for nothing?
I should be ashamed you say? Yet you claim you have spended so many yearh in collage Meteorology and you dont see and understand the most basic facts and science? No my hobbit, you should really be ashamed of youself.
"spended"?!? LOL!! Please, learn English before you attempt to learn science! It's also College, not collage...you are a fucking IDIOT!
Now, use your superior knowledge to explain the role of "compression" in contrail creation. Also, Explain to me what will happen when saturated air is compressed by an engine and released at VERY high velocity into a VERY cold section of the atmosphere while moving forward. The only answer you could come up with (based on FACTS) is a persistent contrail.
Well if you need to point misspelled words because you dont have anything else, like real facts in the subject you are rambling about, says more about you and about me actually. English isnt and will not be my primary language. You simply will have to live with the fact that there can be misspelled words, if you like we can have the conversation in swedish and there will be no misspelled words?
Now you are trying to get of the real subject, I have asked you many times by now how these special trails can be created in low altitude, in a warm climate, stay for ours and ours and spread out like cloud like objects, cover the who sky, no blue sky, no sun, no nothing. Just white.
Explain that and stop write all this nonsense bs.
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Why specifically don't you believe contrails can persist for hours despite 70+ years of scientific documentation that they CAN.
Is it because of the FACT that contrails are made of water ? And you don't believe visible water can stay in the sky for hours?
What is your reasoning?
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So are you learning anything? I sent you the same info in the PM
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@UkTruthSeeker2009
You are talking about cloud seeding, a matter of national pride here in Australia as it was largely pioneered by the CSIRO.
youtube.com/watch?v=1Kw5uTuhH6 0
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You want a licence to do it in texas?
Here you go:
licenseDOTstateDOTtxDOTus/weat her/weathermod.htm
Why do ignorant people seem to think they have discovered a secret unique to them when they learn about things that were common knowledge decades ago?
GregOrca 7 months ago
Here is a video from 1959. Notice how the sky is no different from the video you linked to?
youtube.com/watch?v=WJj-L85zw30
Notice how the passenger planes in the 1950s and 60s also left extremely long contrails just like we see today:
youtube.com/watch?v=zDdxb6W7nWU
Notice how the sky in old photos looks just like the sky in your vid link
airlinersDOTnet/photo/Southern-Airways/Martin-404/1033793/M/
You are spreading fear and ignorance. Why?
I'm explaining correct facts
GregOrca 7 months ago
@babymalai
"AND IT IS UP THERE, AND CALLING HOAX, WTF?"
You do not understand. No one denies there are trails in the sky. The issue is that you do not understand how and why the trails form. The REAL reason they form has been known for over 70 years and all pilots , scientists and meteorologists and intelligent people know that trails are water ice crystals because the temp at altitude is about -50C and planes leave 8tons of water per hour in their exhaust which freezes.
GregOrca 7 months ago
@babymalai
Note that the syndrome you refer to is a result of fumes that don't originate OUTSIDE the plane.
If there were "chemtrails" in the sky and they were dangerous and toxic, then over a million passengers PER DAY would be breathing COMPRESSED "chemtrails" and would be dead.
In fact pilots and crews are healthier than the average population despite breathing concentrated trail filled air year after year .
Why are they so healthy on average. Because of the trails they breathe daily?
GregOrca 7 months ago
@babymalai
Yes, the fumes in aerotoxic syndrome come from the plane engine itself, like rerouting your exhaust pipe back into your car.
They are irrelevent to the discussion of "Chemtrails" other than that flight crew unions are extremely militant about it and monitor air quality carefully. It occurs on poorly maintained aircraft due to cost cutting.
It therefore occurs on a small number of planes.
If the cause were "chemtrails" it would occur on ALL planes equally.
GregOrca 7 months ago
Now all this cant be leak of oil as you will hear the man say the air comes from outside of the plane ,and it also says in this video it smelt and every day if you go outside take a whiff you will smell it because it`s` in the air 24/7
see this
com/user/91177info?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/621/7EcgdZLg-wo
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
Clouds are water.
Why can they stay in the sky all day?
Contrails are water.
Why do you think they can't stay in the sky all day, even though they are EXACTLY the same material?
How can the sky let water stay in the sky all day, and yet as you claim not ever let water stay in the sky all day?
Your belief does not make any sense and is entirely illogical.
Water is water . The sky cannot "know" how it got there and so cannot discriminate as to how long it can persist.
THINK!
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Well Done Greg clouds are water " but Chemtrails are a mixture of Toxics ". We The people who pay the wages of civil servants will not be Lied to anymore enough is enough. Your Banta holds No proof but underneath my video Why there was No summer 2009/2010 does have proof of a geoengineering website where you can even email them to order your weather snow,sun or LACK OF ,storm,snow, Looks like I`m going to be adding 2011 to my Title aswell.
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
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GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Yes they cloud seed " But they also Chemtrail." Oh and it is No secret as much as they try to keep it secret . It should be banned all over the world they have No rights without our consent to put this crap into the air we breathe then have the cheek to try & Tax us for it when it`s` all man made Just like Climate gate was prooved to be.
We Don`t` want it & we deffinatly don`t need it shortening our lives.I showed you link peoples symptoms and crops having fungus growing on it ECOLI
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
If what you said was true then 7billion people would be afflicted.
They are not.
Your claim is bunk.
If the sky was full of Aluminum and barium and fairy dust or whatever nonsense you believe in then the approx 80,000 passenger flights PER DAY world wide would come in to contact with these materials and it would accumulate and be detected in the cabin pressurisation systems.
It is NOT.
That means the materials you claim are NOT IN THE SKY.
You have fallen for a HOAX
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca That`s another lie aswell many cabin crew and passengers have become brain damaged because of leaking cabins see this
com/watch?v=cgj7S-zf_cY&feature=channel_video_title
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009 `
That's from overheated engine oil and hydraulic fluid which enters the cabin because it is th eengine's compressor stages which direct bleed air into aircraft ecs systems for the crew and passengers to breathe.
If the sky was full of aluminium and barium the cabin pressurisation system would fill up with such materials.
Did you attend school? You seem to have great difficulty understanding even very simple science subjects and understanding what people are saying.
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca You asked " Did you attend school?" Yes I had my helping of brain washing Thank You I see You went on to get more of the same LOL
Then I discovered Freedom and broke out of the uniformed brain washing system Thank God .
What would Organophospates be doing in oil hahaha Organo-Phosphates were used as nerve gases during WW2 and are used to spray crops gmo FRANKINSTIEN CROPS They are deadly
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
"What would Organophospates be doing in oil "
Are you trying to be funny?
Many of the most common Aviation hydraulic fluids ARE phosphate Esters !
Skydrol 500B-4
Skydrol LD-4
Exxon HyJet IV-A
Exxon Hyjet V
Dare I suggest you to investigate your body might have adenosine tri-phosphate in it!
Best to remove it all eh?
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca organophosphates are potent nerve agents, functioning by inhibiting the action of acetylcholinesterase (AChE) in nerve cells. They are one of the most common causes of poisoning worldwide, and are frequently intentionally used in suicides in agricultural areas. Organophophate poisoning may cause what is known as the 'suicide impulse' which may lead to the high level of suicides in some sectors of the agricultural industry .
Aluminium has the same effect ALZHIMIERS "
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@GregOrca HAHA Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) is considered by biologists to be the energy currency of life. It is the high-energy molecule that stores the energy we need to do just about everything we do.
It is present in the cytoplasm and nucleoplasm of every cell, and essentially all the physiological mechanisms that require energy for operation obtain it directly from the stored ATP. LOL
YAY ENERGY IVE GOT LOTS OF IT
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
What IS in the sky is the pollution from coal fired powerstations. They do release trace minerals and cause acid rain which leaches metal from soils.
The normal average amount of aluminium in soils is 7.1% which is equivalent to 710,000,000ug/L
or 71,000ppm. That is the NORMAL level of elemental aluminium.
Clay is an aluminium based mineral. Feldspar is an aluminium based mineral.
Aluminium is EVERYWHERE naturally.
It's the 3rd most common element on Earth's land surface.
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Not in the quantities that they are spraying it`s` not Normal. The soil needs a balanced amount its way over what it should be & the reason why cropsd have Fungus on them & why people are getting lung problems. The reason cancer, Vitamin d3 defiency ,Asthma,Lung deseases,Alzhimiers, and many more are on the Increase. Like it said in the article I sent You.
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@GregOrca My God your email was as long as a toilet roll and you sent 3 times emails that long. Which proves you have copied and pasted it probably from a document the agency gave you because you came back 3 times in the space of 5 minutes. I know what I see and You won`t` change my mind because I to have researched and even have weather forecasters telling me they are CHEMTRAILS. Iv`e` blocked YOU
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
Go to flightradar dot com and see realtime flights across the uk when chemtrails are in the sky, Then you can filter out if they are civil or military.......only airlines show up...not the military......Then comment here that they are only contrails.....IF the chemtrail program is good WHY are they not telling the Public......Its been going on since the 70's......Research it.....Fresh Air....Mmmm
NickTamotor 8 months ago
clouds are static in UK
jussipejulliano 8 months ago
Very interesting. This shows that the flight patterns one can see in the sky over Oxfordshire and the North of England stretching well over England's borders are indeed systematic projects of cloud seeding and sulphuric aerosol sprayings have nothing to do with regular air traffic. Watch out for geo-engineering in your area, folks, and write to your local MP!
u03tf5 10 months ago
That was nothing like the real satalite. The real satalites show MASS Chemtrailing.
Airplanes used too leave Contrails that dissolved behind the airplane NOW they leave a massive long thick TRAIL which make sure our days are dull. They grow untill the whole sky is one mass WHITEOUT. Summertime dont exsist in UK anymore due too chemtrails, and Vitamin d3 defiency is common place here too.
UkTruthSeeker2009 1 year ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009 Wrong. You are spreading rumour & lies.. The persistence of contrails is entirely due to atmospheric conditions. The greater density of contrails is due to the increased efficiency of modern engines, burning more of the fuel & producing more water-vapour. There isn't room for anything other than cargo & fuel in the planes anyway.
archolman 8 months ago
@archolman No You are wrong not me. Water Vapour Lol Come on Do You really think were stupid enough to listen to this rubbish. This Morning I got Up at 6:15 the sky was clear and beautiful 1 hour later the sky was completely white it stunk aswell. It`s` nothing to do with Ice crystals,Water Vapour or weather conditions BECAUSE it happens whatever the weather Hot, cold, warm, rain, snow, If it were water vapour it wouldn`t` white out the sky all day long it would dissolve.chemtrails is Patented ;
UkTruthSeeker2009 8 months ago
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Clouds move that crap don`t` it stays put for the whole day if not longer sometimes.You know aswell as me what they are and they are not contrails They are Toxics Aluminum ,Barium ,Sulphur ,strontium etc these are toxics and we are breathing them into our lungs.Contrails dissipate behind the plane you can still see some doing that today although now the majority of air traffic is the CHEMSQUAD.
LOOK UP PEOPLE DON`T` BE FOOLED BY THE GOVERNMENT
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
What utter BS you just wrote.
Of course the trails move. Just look at any time lapse.
youtube.com/watch?v=7DSM7RS094c
Try to tell me the trails in that vid don't move.
If there were ANY of those substances in the sky they would fill up airliners that take ALL their air from directly outside the plane, yet NONE of those substances are detected inside airliner cabin pressurisation systems .
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Im talking about any the people down on the ground getting poisoned although there are cases of cabin crew getting brain damage. If they move its sometimes not that obvious because there`s` so much crap sprayed up there its hard to tell. People have only got to watch to know it`s` not right . Planes never used to leave a thick toxic trail that whites out the sky they are adding chemicals to the fuel ,some people would rather keep that quiet ? LOOK UP GEOENGINEERING PEOPLE !!
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
Sorry, but what you have written is not based on reality.
Passenger airliners have caused complete cloud cover overcasting way back in the 1960s.
Contrails have been documented to persist for HOURS way back prior to the 1940s.
You are just repeating false information from conspiracy-nut blogs and contradicting documented reality.
Stop lying and writing rubbish
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca SORRY BUT YOUR WRONG I was alive in the 60`s and got pictures of the sky never did I see the sky so messed up as what it is now. STOP STICKING UP FOR THE MURDERERS
Now leave me alone that comment I wrote was 1 year ago and 3 weeks ago although I stand by what I said .
I noticed the spraying myself actually this is the reason Iv`e` spent the last few years on & off line watching this big assault on humanity and became Asthmatic as a result.
Now Goodbye have a nice day
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
I was alive in the 1960s too Sharon & remember long spreading contrails very well.
As kids we were told they were snow from Santa's sleigh carrying toys from his factory at the south pole to the north pole.
Spotting Santa's trails was a popular pass-time.
If you think you know the sky didn't have trails in it then why do hundreds of photos like this exist?
airlinersDOTnet/photo/Southern-Airways/Martin-404/1033793/M/
Why do old national geo & Life magazine have such pictures?
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Yes but Gregg they wasn`t` as long as the National express in those days infact even up to the 90`s they wasn`t that long and also in those days clouds spread did not act like a curtain coming over the sky in a perfect line. We didn`t have huge circles around the sun & moon either or upside down mini rainbows 3 & 4 at a time . How come I BLOCKED YOU YET You still able to come through to me ?
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
You can't block people from commenting on a video that isn't yours!
LOL
Did you actually READ those science papers?
Dis you read the article from 1969 that documents the FACT that normal contrails can turn into cirrus cloud and cause complete overcast and did so REGULARLY even back in the 1960s?
It seems you want to BLOCK out anyone providing FACTS that contradict your BELIEF.
You exhibit the characteristics of a delusional cult follower
"Sundogs" were common in the past.
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca I BLOCKED YOU FROM YOUR CHANNEL
I Have seen all your lot`s` crap BS LIES & I don`t` care to see anymore Thank You .
Im Blocking You because IM SICK OF AGENCY DICTATORS Who pretend to know everything BUT copy & paste from some BS blog. Now please go away Your acting like a pyschopath I DON`T` HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOU OR ANY OTHER LIKE YOU.
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
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@UkTruthSeeker2009
It's not possible for you to block me from my own channel.
You can only block me from your channel, and you can't block me from posting on this vid which is someone else's channel.
You seem to have a few serious comprehension and logic problems
GregOrca 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
Funny how you accused me of lies when it was YOU who said circles never formed around the sun in the past and I proved you wrong.
You suggested that long spreading trails did not occur in the past and I provided proof that your claim was a lie.
I think you are so deluded that you do not realise you are mentally ill.
You are denying verifiable reality. You are trying to block out any facts and reality that contradict your belief system.
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Hahaha Nice Try Your purfetic do You know that . You carryon guarding your chemtrail videos Dear Iv`e` got better things to do The People know the truth I don`t` have to tell them they SEE for themselves. You remind me of another Gov Agency called Georgia she was Hunting me down and bombarding me with emails aswell LOL You have No proof of anything just BS links
I BLOCKED YOU FROM YOUR CHANNEL howcome your still able to get through does that little extra come with the job hehe ;)
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
@GregOrca Can i please ask ,why do you think there is no such thing as chemtrails.?
gwellyn2 7 months ago
@gwellyn2
Hi.
I've sent you some info in a PM.
Others can read most of my comments on Bill Woolam's truther blog:
blissful-wisdomDOTcom/why-contrails-are-not-chemtrails.html
GregOrca 7 months ago
@gwellyn2 She`s` sending you to a BS Blog written out by people who work for the corp LOL
Mad science gone even madder
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago
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GregOrca 7 months ago
@UkTruthSeeker2009
You say "We didn`t have huge circles around the sun & moon" yet they are described in detail in ancient Greek and Roman documents by Aristotle, Aratus, Cicero, Seneca, Apulelius, Archimedes etc etc.
So their ancient writings, loved by historians for over a thousand years are forgeries?
Is there a name for what's wrong with you?
Paranoid delusional psychosis perhaps?
GregOrca 7 months ago
@GregOrca Yes i wondered when that one was coming IT IS you lot WHO ARE MENTALLY DISTURBED PYSCHO`S` In need of the God gene Not us. Gregg dear youv`e` been drinking too much Fluoride its crystalised your brain & Pineal gland.
It`s` all Man made Greg just like Climate gate ;)
UkTruthSeeker2009 7 months ago 3
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@UkTruthSeeker2009
Here's an old popular science magazine article that proves you delusional:
books(.)google(.)com/books?id=GSoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA74&dq=popular+science+contrail&hl=en&ei=vK9kTZWHOIOSuAPisvWrBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false
To quote from 1969 "It is certain that many occasions-30 to 40 days a year, say the cause of cirrus cloud cover is contrails. This cloud cover can take in a substantial part of a continent half the US"
GregOrca 7 months ago
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@UkTruthSeeker2009
"The spreading of jet contrails into extensive cirrus sheets is a familiar sight. Often, when persistent contrails exist from 25,000 to 40,000 ft, several long contrails increase in number and gradually merge into an almost solid interlaced sheet."
from Peter Kuhn," Airborne Observations of Contrail Effects on the Thermal Radiation Budget" published 1970.
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences Volume 27, Issue 6 (September 1970)
GregOrca 7 months ago
Why can't aircrafts fly over maximum security prisons? I've never heard of this.
kingofarsenal11 1 year ago
@kingofarsenal11 I assume becacuse someone could try to fly a plane into one to break down the wall...
chunkymon24490 9 months ago
@chunkymon24490 That must be it, it makes complete sense.
kingofarsenal11 9 months ago
amazing!
DX02030425 1 year ago
Great voice !
icebear317 1 year ago
Am I being silly, but why can't planes go over some high-security prisons?
tunny2000 1 year ago
@tunny2000 they might dangle a rope down
smegwards 1 year ago
@tunny2000 I guess helicopters could pick people up? Can't see a reason to deny a jet aircraft at 14000 feet though. Rocket launchers would seem an unlikely threat.
philipwhiuk 1 year ago
@tunny2000 coz if thy crash thy will kill all the prisioners LOL, then thy wnt b serving their time!!!!!!
emnemz8 11 months ago
@emnemz8 Yeah either that or the survivors will escape!
Xxfancythat79xX 10 months ago
andrew marr!
BlackMambaPANIC 1 year ago
lol sperma xD
MarvinMcGeil 1 year ago 6
stars15k = shill for parasitism's poisoners
finefilth 1 year ago 2
Fascinating.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 year ago
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Learn about chemtrails. Check my vids I filmed a lot of crazy stuff in a couple short weeks.
TrutherD1 2 years ago
@TrutherD1
No. you didn't film a lot of crazy stuff.
You filmed a lot of completely normal stuff and YOU are crazy
*fixed*
Legionoftruthers 1 year ago
@Legionoftruthers Thanks for helping me spread the word. Check it out and decide for yourself, people.
TrutherD1 1 year ago
that's pretty amazing
RNLee 2 years ago
True, I did some research. You researched on Wiki, right? So did I. Knowing that the "contrail" page was the real science you ignore, I went to the "Chemtrail" entry. Actually, it's the "Chemtrail Conspiracy" entry. Using the references at the bottom, here's what you had to research from:
14 Gov't or Military --I knew you would consider these anathema, so you didn't use these.
3 Items that can only be called "Edutainment" as they are nothing more than "stars" comments or movie review.
stars15k 2 years ago
stars15k 2 years ago
So besides believing your magic eyes and being able to discern chemical content from either ground level or video, just what and where exactly did you do your research?
stars15k 2 years ago
Start with adressing it to me.
If you can read you will see that Wikipedia is one tool, you can get information from many places, library, Wikipedia, follow the links in Wikipedia, mainstream media sometimes, common science, read about the black op community.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Answer my question. Just what and where did you do your research?
stars15k 2 years ago
I have already answered you that question, exactly how old are you?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Common science? Since when? You blast me for my list of "mainstream" science and can't answer simple questions about the atmosphere. If you are using common science, please look for books published after 1900, at least.
Black-op community? Is that like spy stories and stuff? And how do you know it's true? Just pick the stories you like the best? Sorry, my bullshitometer goes off with just the mention of "black-ops". I know Hollywood and video games are make-believe
stars15k 2 years ago 9
If this was some hundreds of years ago you would claim the earth was flat, because anything else wasnt mainstream common knowledge and science. But science is the pursuit of new knowledge and understanding, not sitting back, and dismiss everything new.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Why do u speak like a fucking freak? your not in an english lesson! nerd
joshieboi005 2 years ago
With that haircut? Really?
Stop whining!
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
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Thats not science, its being an idiot.
The fact is that weather modification is here, and has been here for quite a long time.
Airosol spraying isnt anything new and has been used before.
Spy stories and stuff? Are you for real or whats wrong with you?
You actually dont realize there is a black ops, black projects do you?
I can almost not belive that you are for real, you think black ops are anly in movies, is that correct?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
The fact that there is a conspiracy doesent effekt the subject in any way. It can either be true, not true or partly true or not true, dont missuse the word conspiracy for your bs.
The fact is that the people talking in the interviews are the prople who saw it, the reporter is the least interresting in that case.
Amazing how your simply refuse to look at real life, information so it will fit into your little world.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
More people with magic eyes, able to see chemical content from 30000+ft? More people who don't understand science.
Mostly, more people who need to spend more time productively, researching for answers, not explanations. Looking for truth, not secrets.
No, logic tells us that:
TRUE+TRUE= TRUE
TRUE+FALSE=FALSE
FALSE+FALSE=FALSE
It's why I don't use "chem" sites for research. They have bad info, so I can't expect good info.
stars15k 2 years ago
Magic eyes? Only pseudobullshit from an old woman.
Very easy, one use their eyes. If you can see the colour and the stripes then its rather close, okey. I know you are old but if you have poor eyes then use glasses.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Thats not true at all. A subject can be partly true, there is something to a subject but maybe not exactly what you thought from the beginning, or you are totally correct, or totally wrong.
You dont watch any information that speaks agains what you are saying, thats why you have a gigantic blindspot, and besides that your are totally ignorant.
Comment on my link.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Part true is enough for me to not use information in favor of something that is true. It's why I chose to study the science involved instead of some partly right explanation. Your blindspot means you don't see the BS out there and have blindly decided to follow a story told be shills selling books. Your choice.
stars15k 2 years ago
Color and stripes are naturally occuring parts of the atmosphere, True. They mean nothing more than sometimes winds blow straight, some layers of the atmosphere have no turbulence and that light is refracting through water droplets or ice crystals in the clouds.
That's the real world. People have seen, told of, painted, photographed all of them for as long as men have looked up in wonder at the sky.
It's not my eyesight that is bad, it's your knowledge of what you see.
stars15k 2 years ago
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No its not the reallity for many cities and areas. Today was crazy, these planes went over for some ours, then the sky wasnt just little hazy, it totally blocked out sun, sky everything. Gigantic trails.
No contrails, no persistent contrail, special trails that mainstream science doesent explain, you have yet failed to explain them.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You are getting your videos confused, True. This is a BBC short, not my video with the reporter.
And "people who saw it" is telling me to believe that people are able to discern chemical content from ground level AND that they don't know anything about the way the atmosphere works.
stars15k 2 years ago
watch?v=RQFneYoWZFA
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
This video is absolutely bull crap some of these planes come equipted with Aerosol abuse to spray us like bugs and this video by the way was cut very short what was his next line (80% of these are chemtrail planes)
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
Liar
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Song)
The shills are a live with the sound of music
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
Impressive.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Thanks Shilltard I know Did you like my CHEMTRAIL VIDEO Didn`t they just go mad with the bloody things hey? Its like that ever day we never get a day where the sun is allowed to show. IT SUCKS and PLEASE pass my video to nasa because your video sucks too.
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
I liked your video. It was entertaining.
Sorry you didn't like mine.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Sorry I wasn`t being nasty but you were asking Nasa to help chemtards and solve the problem of CHEMTRAILS But you was suppose to be filming the sky but you had it aimed at the trees and the sun? So sending that to Nasa would be daft my video as many trails see what they say about mine? I bet they wont they daren`t they haven`t the bottle.
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
NASA? Where did I mention NASA?
Shilltastic 2 years ago
I do appologise I meant Government but they are they are all in it together. SILLY ME.
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
Yes, they conspire against us.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Im glad we agree on that.
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
are you done with the boo hoo's for the day?
Shilltastic 2 years ago
The funny thing is that there are THOUSANDS of "experts" all over the world that agree with my position in this matter. There are ZERO experts that side with the chemtards! That is just a fact. Carnicom and Peterson are NOT experts in the fields of aviation or meteorology yet since they are "scientists", morons accept their words as fact. It is hilarious! Chemtards accept opinions AS fact ONLY if they mirror their own retarded beliefs. Yet, this isn't about opinion, it's about FACT. I win!
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Thats not very funny and not very strange either. People are just waking up to this reality and this will hopefully come out in the open, and those who do this will have to explain what they are doing.
Your arguments are so poor you need to write in capslock so anybody will understand what you are whining about.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Well lets conclude at once that you sure as hell aint anything scientific, with your language, ridicule and bs.
You are the tard, Im really sorry but thats the grim reality for you.
You win, what do you win?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
*ding*
ohdeejay 2 years ago
The fact that there are so menny planes is staggering to me, especially when I see them making layer after layer of fine dust in the air like I am in a gigantic polluting industry complex.
Lets agree everyone has the right to think for themselfs ok, I prefer common sence over blind faith.
Cars pullute our roads, industry pullutes our ground, boats pullute the seas, planes...are not?
The thing is, you cant avoid breathing air.
aces9876 2 years ago 3
Wow, popular routes that if within the right conditions would leave parallel lines and grid patterns. Notice the bit about the "roundabouts". I wish the chemtrail believers would understand the importance of this video.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Yup, some forms of aquaphobia can be fixed with simple comprehension.
beerijuana 2 years ago
Wonderful video! Easy to see and understand, which means chemtards will become confused and start seeing this as an admission by the Brit Gov that they spray stuff. They are such morons.
stars15k 2 years ago
Doesent say much, there are many planes? So what, everyone know that.
The problem is when lowflying planes spray gigantic trails who stays the whole day blocking out sun and blue sky. Nothing changes that.
Funny to see old ladies trying to learn pseudoskeptic rules and ridicule, you have a long way to go thou, but we still know no one should take you seriously.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Well we are many that wishes that you and your kind could get your head out of your ass and see whats what.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
My kind?! You mean actually educated as opposed to those like you...paranoid and retarded. You're the one with your paranoid head up your ass...I'm laughing at you right now.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
No that wasnt what i menat. I meant pseudoskeptics using ridicule and bullshit as their primary weapon in any discussion. No science, no logic no nothing. Just a hollow empty shell of ridicule that anyone can see thru who has the education.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
I have TRIED to discuss this subject rationally with you retards...it's impossible! So, I decided to make you retards my entertainment...
Sue me...whiner!
And you are a MORON if you say I haven't provided science and logic in defense of my position. You obviously don't pay much attention. No wonder you fell for the "chemtrail" hoax. Fucking dope.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
No you havent. The problem with you is that you start with the ridicule doctrine and then just burps out mainstream old knowledge. Nothing of what you have written have explained these trails, simply put.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
We both know you feel treathen by this subject, or else you wouldnt spend so much time on it.
Yeah, everyone is a moron that know more and is better then you, thats a good pseudoskeptic, good boy, good boy.
Im really sorry that this will destroy you, but its here right now. Deal with it.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Wrong again, stupid. I'm not "treathen" (LOL) by the subject, I'm one of very few that seems to understand the truth of the matter. I have a moral obligation to help my fellow man understand that he doesn't need to be frightened by lines of water vapor in the sky.
Still misusing "pseudo" I see...Not surprised, you ARE an idiot. You couldn't "destroy" me if you tried, you are dumber than dirt.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
We both know Im wrong. Well you aint a choosen one if that what you are thinkink. You are actually one little marker in a chessboard in a global scale, they are counting on your stupidity, and in you case they have a succes.-
Well you have a moral oblication when you know you are right and have the truth on your side, in this case you have neither, you are just a psudobullshitter.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Also, this video explains the "x" and "grid patterns" in the sky. I'll bet you 100 bucks that you just couldn't understand how if your life depended on it...you are just that ignorant.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Actually it doesent explain more then there is many planes flying. So what? Everone did already knows that.
No baby, but I do care what i have in my sky, you should to beside being and ignorant noisy pseudoskeptic.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
I suppose you havent looked this up either, but even contrails is a matter of health and enviroment issues, but I suppose you didnt know that.
Come on noisy pseudoskeptic, we both know you are wrong, you know it, I know, any one with a brain knows it.
Destory you, you are doing a fine job your self. Im just here to help you on the way ;)
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
I understand that they block the sun. There are MANY things that are "matters of health and environment" that we don't think of! Why FOCUS on persistent contrails?!? I'll TELL ya why! Because you are an uneducated Chicken Little type that THINKS they understand the facts, but couldn't be more wrong if you wanted to be! There is a VERY good reason why those of us with ACTUAL educations don't agree with your paranoid bullshit. It's because we are MUCH smarter than you.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Really? Do you also realize in your pseudoskeptic mind of yours that geoengineering has been going on for many years now and weather modification is every nations wet dream, do you realize that to?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You either wont or can understand the most basic information. These plain aint flying that high, the climate at the time aint that cold for even ordinary contrails to form, so how can these amazing contrails form, that blocks the whole sky, form cloud like objects. No more sun and no more blue sky that day.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You seem to be slipping a bit. "These plain aint" is not the sign of a person capable of understanding standard English.
May I suggest you take a time-out? Your brain seems to be regressing. Your whole manage screams of regress. Have a cuppa, take a walk, cuddle your cat.....you need it badly.
stars15k 2 years ago
Ad you probably know and understand, well maybe not... English isnt my primary language, so my misspelling, slang or whatever doesent really matter. You just lack argument and now you are desperate, so therefore you attack the only point you see you have a chance, my language.
But heym, we can take this in swedish if you prefer?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Excuse me, I didn't know. But really, you are slipping in your cohesive thinking. Calm down. Take a breath. Relax.
You need to.
Oh, and it's "Swedish" with a capital.
stars15k 2 years ago
Really? What if I claim you have already wrote a comment almost like that, how do you reply to that? I mean, its like you are repeating yourself?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You have been slipping a long time, doesent say much actually.
Anyone who need to point out some misspelled words actually dont have any facts or arguments.
Its very common among you uneducated pseudoskeptics, suprise me sometime will you?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Yep, you are following the script well. So, can't answer a simple question, say the one asked by Shill.
How does compression figure in the formation of contrails?
Then you come back with nothing but name calling. It's what we expect. Can't show facts, so let's insult the messenger.
You have access to facts on the internet. You choose to not research to find them. You refuse to believe in any scientific principle that doesn't fit in your with your "chemtrail" story. Shameful.
stars15k 2 years ago
You are just trying to copy what Im saying. The fact is thou, that you and your noisy friends cant answer the question, you cant explain it, neither with ordinary contrail science or with alternativ explanations.
Experts? Give me a break ok, you are no expert, hes no expert. You are loud pseudoskeptics with insults as your primary tools to dismiss the subject, and everyone with some kind of sense knows that to be bullshit.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
What question? You give so much crap, your message gets lost. What can't we answer? Give me the direct question.
Here's mine for you: How does compression figure in the formation of a contrail?
stars15k 2 years ago
Then pay attention I ask always the same question to you and your ragtag friends.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
There is a VERY simple reason why he won't answer...because he doesn't KNOW! He accepts only BULLSHIT as fact and couldn't be bothered to learn the truth. I will make a prediction, he will deny any scientific data, any facts, any what ever (that PROVES it's a hoax!) as long as he's alive. The guy couldn't be dumber if he wanted to be. He actually believes that he can educate himself on youtube. Will the hilarity ever end?! I hope not!
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Wow you dont adress your messages anymore, just write bullshit to everyone?
I have learn my facts, I know what you cant to say, but you are wrong, dead wrong. Your let you ignorance lead you in everything you say and write.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
if you say so.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Yes I say so.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
goodbye
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Yes go back to school and learn some, science, rhetoric and good manners.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
ok, goodbye.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Im sure its not goodbye. As soon as I see your ridicule bullshit I will be there.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
fine by me! maybe you could provide some facts instead of assumption and whining.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
You need no facts, the important thing is for others to see that one shouldnt take you and what you claim serious, and absolutely not your ridicule bs, just a rhetoric for indviduals without no facts.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You want it to be that way, but the real life isnt so. I have learn my lessons from both Youtube, Wikipedia, links from Wikipedia, Books from the library. See how easy it was to conclude you are wrong?
And by the way, you are on Youtube aswell trying to indoctrinate people to belive your pseudononsense.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Wiki and links from Wiki! ????!!!
Hey, Shill Watch out. This guy is educated enough to be able to find things on Wiki. oooooo, i'm so scared. Surely it must be right when videos on YouTube and entries on Wiki say it is.
True, You are below idiocy. YT and Wiki!
That's so sad it's almost funny.
No, wait. It IS funny. You forgot to mention that you use chemtrail sites as well. Carnicom is an idiot and was spoofed about water. Some scientist.
stars15k 2 years ago
Wow are you trying to take your ridicule to a new level now, you need someone to stand beside you to make any sense?
I discuss alot and I must say that you are very poor to come up with arguments, you are not even good at ridicule that are your primary weapon in discussions, actually you dont discuss, you just want to close the subject so there will be no discussion.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
I think you are some what desperate, me and many with me see thru you.
I have study most of my life so yes, I know how to find information, how to read, how about you?
Lets count how many pseudobullshit ridicule words you did manage in that small message shall we?
The good thing is that people see who you really are.
The thing that amaze me is that you are so old and still writes like you are 14 or something like that.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You better start updating your poor info.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
I have access information on the net, on the libaray, studies in school, I see what I see and what I film. I see what other fims, I see your nonscience and no credible answers in the subject, I have learn about weather modification, geoengineering, black operations and project.
The only thing you and your ragtag gang have is ridicule, insults and bullshit. If anyone doubt who is looking on this, I suggest they look at all your discussions and then decide if you got any kind of arguments.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
More "magic eyes" theory to chemtrails. A video tape of an exhaust plume shows nothing more than you can use a video camera. You cannot possible tell without testing what a plume is composed of. And the whole persistence crap is wrong. Clouds are water vapor and they don't dissolve within minutes. So why should contrails, which are primarily water vapor?
How does compression figure in the formation of a contrail? You haven't answered that yet.
stars15k 2 years ago
There have been tests and there will be more test, people are waking up to this reality and are demanding answers, while you sit there and talk and write bullshit.
I will make a prediction, you will deny any report, any news, any what ever as long as you are alive.
You arent interrested in the facts, you are not interrested in learning new things.
It doesent suit anyone to use ridicule as their primary rhetoric, but it certainly doesent suit old women.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
No thats not true, I refuse to listen to noisy pseudoskeptics, I rather listen, read to real science with real scientists, then loudmouths on the Internet.
Yes, chame on you, chame on you for being that old and that inmature, you of all thise noisy insulting persons should know better then act as you came directly from the hood.
No read some, learn some.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You say there can be no airosol spraying operation to manipulate the weather. The real world says something else.
watch?v=rXqunUH9sqc
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Further proof you have no idea what you are talking about and have nothing beyond a YouTube education. I heard the word "duppel" several times, and know how that word translates into English. Duppel is German for "chaff", something used since military started using planes. It's radar disrupting, so you get false targets. The lead-in to the story says duppel, the reporter says duppel, but the translation doesn't. More skewed information seen by a idiot and not researched. Try again.
stars15k 2 years ago
You seem angry? Its not good for eldery women to get upset in this matter, calm down.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Hardly, I've been laughing at some of the stuff I've been reading this afternoon. It's been quite entertaining.
stars15k 2 years ago
Really? Its amazing to see how you pseudoskeptics always write in the same way? When will you get it, I actually dont give a shit about your ridicule strategy.
It says more about you then about me or the subject. The fact that you only have ridicule as your primary tool to discuss tells me that you havent got anything.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
"The fact that you only have ridicule as your primary tool to discuss tells me that you havent got anything. "
You don't pay much attention, do you. I have explained MANY things to you idiots and you all react the same way...with MORE ignorance. I have seen many people explain many aspects of the facts behind these trails and not a single chemtard can understand the science. Blame your school...not us! It's not my fault that you're an idiot.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
I have paid attention, I have also watched your bs in other discussions, and its all bs, nothing more.
This subjects scares you so much, so you go to any length to trash the subject.
You are an old ignorant noisy pseudoskeptic, nothing more.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
And you think you have all the answers. Too funny.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
I have never claimed to have all the answers, but I do ask relevant question and want to learn.
You spend all your time to ridicule and write bullshit that doesent lead to anything. You are a waste of space.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
You say you "want to learn" but, the only people you want to learn from are OTHER idiots on the internet. Hilarious. You and all of your paranoid retarded friends are the wastes of space. Please present me with ONE SINGLE fact that proves there are extra "chemicals" in persistent contrails besides water vapor and combustion gases. You have NOTHING. You dismiss the science because you don't trust/understand it. You are ignorant and hilarious.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Well thats just pseudobullshit nothing more. You dont know what Im reading, you want to belive you know, because its the only way you cant fit it in your narrow and igrnorant thinking.
We have alot and more and more are waking up to this reality. And pseudoskeptic idiot like yourself cant stop it, I guess that must be frustrating in that way.
Learn some about contrails and persistent contrails and get back to me.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
But its not all bad actually, when I see you and you ignorant comments, non science, your nonsense and then see that not all people are that way, is rather good to see. I always use you as a example not to be. We look at your comments, your rhetoric, your repeating of ridicule comments. You are a good example not to be if you want to approach any thing in a skeptic but open minded way, and get the scientific fact avaible.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Facts matter.. There are NONE on the paranoid side of this issue.
Please stop butchering language with your stupid use of the "pseudo" prefix. I'm embarrassed for you. I have several years of college Meteorology to back up my beliefs, you have youtube videos. You should be ashamed, yet you couldn't possibly understand why because you are just that ignorant about weather. Please get the book Meteorology by Jeppesen and LEARN something, fool.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
And yet you dont present the facts, just ridicule and write bullshit, thats very odd actually.
You are a pseudoskeptic. Well if thats true Im very sad for you, many years for nothing?
I should be ashamed you say? Yet you claim you have spended so many yearh in collage Meteorology and you dont see and understand the most basic facts and science? No my hobbit, you should really be ashamed of youself.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
"spended"?!? LOL!! Please, learn English before you attempt to learn science! It's also College, not collage...you are a fucking IDIOT!
Now, use your superior knowledge to explain the role of "compression" in contrail creation. Also, Explain to me what will happen when saturated air is compressed by an engine and released at VERY high velocity into a VERY cold section of the atmosphere while moving forward. The only answer you could come up with (based on FACTS) is a persistent contrail.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Well if you need to point misspelled words because you dont have anything else, like real facts in the subject you are rambling about, says more about you and about me actually. English isnt and will not be my primary language. You simply will have to live with the fact that there can be misspelled words, if you like we can have the conversation in swedish and there will be no misspelled words?
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Now you are trying to get of the real subject, I have asked you many times by now how these special trails can be created in low altitude, in a warm climate, stay for ours and ours and spread out like cloud like objects, cover the who sky, no blue sky, no sun, no nothing. Just white.
Explain that and stop write all this nonsense bs.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
Please understand how contrails and persistent contrails work and how that can not be Chemtrails or what ever you want to call them.
Its obvious for us who prefer to use science and get the fact right, its some kind of geoengineering, no doubt.
You will soon be an little island of ignorance while the rest of us know the facts.
TrueSkeptic77 2 years ago
"Please understand how contrails and persistent contrails work and how that can not be Chemtrails or what ever you want to call them."
Actually, the opposite is true. Why don't YOU tell me how a jet engine creates a contrail (this should be good!).
Shilltastic 2 years ago
You dont understand the basics of contrails and p