can people please not post spoilers. I've only just started to read the first book and i hate watching these videos and seeing comments that ruin the series
Caitelyn FUCKED UP EVERYTHING in the books, capturing Tyrion on the 1º season which later led to Ned's death and on 3º season, freeing Jaime which later led to Robb's Death and her own.
@SolidSnake8295 When I first read that line I thought it might even be a Godfather reference, ie "Michael Corleone Says Hello." In fact I'm pretty sure it is. It's even better because (SPOILERS) both of those statements falsely assign blame. Jaime wasn't to blame, sure maybe the act was done on his behalf but he didn't do it, and I don't think he would have done it either.
@ravenouscolonelhart And even if Jaime did want to he would have done it himself. He might not have been an honorable man overall, but he was in matters of combat... for the most part.
@iamsexy22able You really shouldn't make such a subtle spoiler. I'm immune because some1 else spoiled it 4 me... but COME ON don't repeat the same thing to ruin everyone else's experience.
Yeah, you're showing your love for Robb... but you're potentially ruining everyone else's experience. Besides, you might want Robb to read this if he were real, "...but the dead won't hear them."
This is me being polite. No offence intended. Simply trying to weight my word
A 2000 men diversionary suicide division? That sounds a bit... much. A mean, if they found a good strategic position they could've survived, surely... for more than a few hours.
Also, one more thing I didn't understand: Did the men Robb send to their graves KNOW they were going to die? Did the other soldiers in the army KNOW that the 2000 men sent were dead? Which 2000 men did he choose, really?
@fl333r Nah, I meant that the Northmen still were beaten but most didn't die, they retreated and regrouped with fairly small casualties. Tywin still won though. The TV show transformed it into a mass sacrifice just to make it look dramatic.
I am amazed how everybody is so sure about the outcome of single combats: one of the finest accomplishments of GRRM is the realism. Even if we admit that Jamie is better with sword than Ned (which is implied in the books) that doesn't mean that, in every 100 combats, he would win them all, many things come as factors.
Having said that, i'd bet money always on Jamie, Selmy, the Cleganes, Dayne, Loras and Drogo, less on Eddard, Strong Belwas, Brienne, Hotah and not so much on Mormont, Snow or Robb
@JBCanimation Do you really think that Jon Snow would win against Jamie or Selmy? I have the feeling that Jon Snow is a good swordsman and a great leader, but not the opposite...
no but the author who created the entire fantasy universe chose to directly address the question you're dismissing out of hand as inherently a waste of time (and to a certain extent I agree with you, there's way better things to argue about than this). that being the case, and since GRRM did take the time to specifically state Ned would get his ass handed to him by Jaime, it's silly to pretend like we really don't know for sure what the answer to this question is.
complaining about spoilers is pointless, douchebags are going to put them up no matter what you want so just learn to live with it and not read the comments
Jamie's character totally turns around and becomes one of the most awesome guys in the series. By the end of the third book you'll be rooting for him, I promise you.
aw, for christ sake, I'm not spoiling anything. It's called an arc and every character has one. I just don't like to see noobs hating on Jaime cause they haven't read far enough.
get off the internet bro, why would you dig through a bunch of nerd commentary about a video based on a tv show set in a fantasy universe and then complain that you never saw the eventuality that someone might actually mention something from the series that you most everyone here loves? Sequester yourself with the books. Run through them, find out what happens if you want to know so badly.
So you're saying that fans shouldn't discuss, mention or allude to anything online that occurs past the first season for the sake of everyone who hasn't read the books? Fuck off, you little cry baby. I didn't give anything away. Btw, I'M not the one who thumbed up my comment putting it at the top.
@SkunkyAngry You can just don't post it in such a public area. Post it on a GOT forum. I'm reading what little I can of the second book in between exams. Now I know;
A) Jaime survives until at least the third book and
B) He essentially changes his attitude towards life.
Jaime is freed by Catelyn Stark at the end of the second book and spends the third book under the supervision of Brienne of Tarth as she escorts him back to Kings Landing in exchange for the Stark girls. On the way, they're captured by sellswords who cut off Jaime's hand and nearly kill him. At this point he starts feeling empathy towards Brienne whom he initially loathed and by the time he gets to Kings Landing, he's a changed man.
@SkunkyAngry Boy, do you have that right. He's a much more "layered" person than the first couple of shows portray. I ended up feeling sorry for him and hated it when he lost his hand. Damn, he's a good looking man. saj
he's outmanned 60,000 to 18-22,000 depending on the strength of his host initially, and how literally Theon's comment about having the Frey's having about a fifth the manpower of the Northmen should be read. Sacrificing 2,000 of that number is not an unreasonable decision to gain what should have been at least a default draw (trade Ned for Jaime, pardon everyone from the North, war's over as far as they were thinking at the time)
@GlennShook Well it dosent matter cuz if events that occur, but he said Selmy "WAS" the best "HE" had ever "SEEN" that does make him spectacular no doubt, not Nescacarly better than the Kingslayer
The only person in the books who could give jaime lannister a run for his money in terms of fighting skill is barriston selmy.fact. That's a fight I'd like to see
of couse he would win boy...he's the finnest sworsman on the seven kingdoms, better then any tyrell better than any martell, notherman or kingsguard, the only ones that can beat him are exiled or dead
Probrably like half a dozen guys in all of Westeros would take that challenge: Barristan Selmy, Sandor Clegane, Thoros of Myr, Gregor Clegane, Loras Tyrell, etc... and, honestly, I think Jaime would hack the shit out of all of them. I like Robb and Cat, but when someone's got the nickname ''Kingslayer'' that guy had badass written all over him ahahahah Go Jaime >=D
@wattoucheng I'll bet Selmy could take him. Loras Tyrell, no way, he's like a proto-Jaime, the real thing has him beat. Gregor and Sandor would both be too slow being such huge guys. Jaime would have beat Ned too if it had continued, although I don't know if he could have disarmed him and taken him alive like he wanted to. I'll bet Selmy could take Jaime though, Jaime even admitted that Selmy was the best he'd ever seen.
@wattoucheng in fairness all he did to earn that was stab an old man in the back, i could do that. Jaime himself admits later that loras is as good as he is and sandor clegane knocks him out of the tournament in the book. I also reckon syrio forel, khal drogo, and ned stark all stand good chances of beating him
@JDrakeify Ned Stark couldnt take Jamie....in the books its made obvious that Ned cant match Jaimes skill when they fight and in the show Jaime is just playing with ned, hes similing throughout the fight and appears pretty much laid back throughout the whole thing like he finds it amusing.... while ned is giving it his all
@cocaineuk87 thats just representative of their personalities, Jaime is said to always find everything to be a joke in the books whilst Ned is very serious. Its also said that the only two times Jaime feels alive is during sex and fighting. Also, Ned says he doesnt fight in tournaments becuase when he fights a man for real he doesnt want them to know what he can do. Barristan mentions that he cut down loads of knights when he was younger, plus ned is like 40 and not as physically fit as Jaime
@JDrakeify you and I could stab a old guy in the back. Stab a King in the back and have the balls to face it before the whole kingdom is an entirely different thing. Of the guy you noted, I reckon Syrio would lack strenght to outmatch Jaime and Drogo would simply lack knowledge to face elite-armored westeros knights such as Jaime. Loras = too green to take someone much more experienced, Ned = too old and too much honor to face someone who actually uses men honor's against themselves.
@wattoucheng if i was jaime i reckon i could handle it cos in my head i knew that i acted rightly killing such an evil man in order to defend kings landing and my family. And in my opinion with drogo the westeros knight thing wont matter cos he's both quicker and stronger than him. drogo has had to fight his way to the top in what even king robert admits is an army which is a lot harder than any in westeros
@JDrakeify Of course! The title "Kingslayer" is not an endearing one that speaks of fair prowess, but of the ability to fight cheaply and stab someone in the back (or eye, ugh).
@JDrakeify : He stabbed a mad King who thousands dared not defy. You have also chosen to only take bits of the book suited to your belief. In the books Jaime thinks to himself he could beat Gregor as he is faster, how true that is remains untold. Syrio Forel and Khal Drogo are foreigners who never have experience fighting against plated foes, the fight [SPOILER] between barristan the bold and that bodyguard of Hizdar lo Loraq is a good example of that. Ned Stark is too old really.
@redcodec well the fact that he's said to be the greatest knight in all of westeros is evidence its not just his belief, but also those who are fighters in slavers bay dont even approach the standard of the dothraki, and this is why they always go and sack their cities. In the first book its said that for ser jorah to defeat one of the dothraki, he needed to wait until he was hit to have time to kill him. Drogo wouldn't give jaime that chance, he'd just go for the throat as he did in the tv show
@redcod but neither is the bloodrider anywhere near the level of skill of drogo, so they both have the same gap between them. Plus it isnt so much to do with jorahs skill as the armour weighing him down, its probably would happen to all westeros knights.
@JDrakeify : so your point is a westerosi knight would be weighted down by armour hence a disadvantage against a dohtraki? did you read my point about that bodyguard wielding a arakh against baristan the bold in plate armour? You raised a statement saying the fighters in slavers bay don't even approach the standard of the dothraki. that bodyguard was one of the best in the fighting pits of meereen. and, where in the book does a comparison between the slaver pit fighters and dothraki exist?
@redcodec well its said that the only army that the army which gave the dothraki the best run for their money was the unsullied, and even then they werent totally defeated. plus its mentioned that the cities of slavers bay usually try and pay the dothraki off instead of letting them sack the city. If you read between the lines, you can see that they'd beat them
@JDrakeify : an important point missed is the dothraki are strong in the field because they are mounted. They are natural riders and one of the finest. But we're talking about them fighting on foot here. And second point missed is as you mentioned, the fighters of slaver's bay are inferior warriors, nothing compared to a westerosi knight. And in the context of your first line they were refering to that specific region and it does not cover westeros.
@redcodec well the dothraki on foot are extremely quick, especially the bad ass ones like drogo, whereas westorosi knights are slow, and on horseback they still have their armour. the dothraki are still probably as fast in relation to a knight of westeros on horseback as one on foot.
@JDrakeify : i don't think every westeroi knight is slow on foot. nowhere does it say jaime is slow... the contrary is true. besides, the fight between barristan and the meereense pit fighter flashing his arakh with blinding speed shows what happens with you go naked against a plated and skilled westerosi knight, flashing fast arakh or not...
NOt alone. Ned had them outnumbered 10 to 3 .yet he lost 8 men :). Jaime is known for his swordfighting abilities . He cut through Robb's guards like carving a cake.
@deathwagon94 dont think the greatjon would take him or oberyn martell cos presumably if jaime if the best knight in westeros he's fought oberyn martell at some point
Read the book for gods sake. Ned was as good as doomed when Jaime walked upto him with a sword. Ned Stark is nowhere near Jaime Lannister.This is not Harry Potter or Eragon where the good guy is also the strongest warrior in the world. This is the best story ever written.
@deathwagon94 I know Jaime is a boss and i'm not implying that he would win because he is a good guy....he would maybe have had a decent chance or maybe even have wounded him.
@ThaFreekinG : whether it was in the show or book's version, it was clear ned stark lost. In the show, ned stark was trying to hard to keep up during his fight with Jaime while Jaime was simply getting more energetic and confident as the duel progresses. this can be seen clearly on their facial expressions from jaime's confident smile and overpowering posture and ned's face turning more strained by the minute. in the book, ned was never even stabbed in the leg...
@redcodec Those facial expressions don't necessarily mean that Jaime was gaining the upper hand, it just showed their outlook on fighting, Jamie found it fun, Ned despised it.
I believe GRRM has stated that Ned Stark was a talented tactician but not nearly on the same level as the top tier warriors of Westeros, even in his prime. Syrio and Drogo fight in completely different manners both from each other and the knights of Westeros, and jousting in tournaments is distinctly not fighting to the death with swords. no stark is worth mentioning here, the best westerosi fighters I believe are Selmy, the Cleganes, Jaime, Loras and the Viper of Dorne. Hodor too.
@DaveXRubicon well in his prime, ned took down 3 of the kingsguard, including gerold hightower and arthur dayne , granted, he had 6 others there with him but the only one to survive was howland reed.
@JDrakeify You're absolutely right, Ned and Reed were the survivors of an 8 v 3 against some of the toughest badasses that ever walked Westeros. 2 caveats though, firstly, we don't actually know what the exact circumstances of this battle were (we know the where and not nearly enough about the details of the why, I hope GRRM will provide us with the rest of that scene before he finishes the series,or,um,dies). Second,when you walk into an 8v3 and lose 75% KIA,it doesn't say SO much
@randomusernamemygod I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Hannibal and Napoleon are probably the 2 greatest historical generals I can think of offhand, and neither one would stack up well in the average prison yard scuffle. Brilliant tacticians are emphatically not the same species of 'warrior' as Cassius Clay or Royce Gracie. Robert was less a general in the sense that Tywin lannister was, so much as a force of nature during his uprising, I don't see ur point.
what a fucking awfull victory speech
DrAnnoyed 1 day ago
can people please not post spoilers. I've only just started to read the first book and i hate watching these videos and seeing comments that ruin the series
juzdamkrazy1 1 day ago
Wow, it's going to be weird when Jaime becomes a viewpoint character. Like, really weird.
burnout02urza 1 day ago
@burnout02urza hey cunt, dont post spoilers. CUNT. thank you.
rule2011 16 hours ago
I HATE Cersei and Joffrey with a passion, but I can't help but like how despicable Jaime is (and how much he enjoys it), and who can't love Tyrion?
40Pacino 3 days ago
@40Pacino
Oh you're gonna have a lot to look forward to in the next seasons...
Andreazor 3 days ago
SPOILER
Caitelyn FUCKED UP EVERYTHING in the books, capturing Tyrion on the 1º season which later led to Ned's death and on 3º season, freeing Jaime which later led to Robb's Death and her own.
buenosanada 3 days ago
@buenosanada Freeing the king slayer is not what leads to their deaths... It's Robb's betrayel of Walder Fray...
rrg019000 2 days ago
@rrg019000 Yes ok, but a great part of Robb's army stops following him because Catelyn freed the king slayer
buenosanada 2 days ago
@buenosanada True, but the Frays were the big loss. That's alright that bitch *SPOILER* gets her throat slashed.
rrg019000 2 days ago
Theon peering upon Jamie's shoulder 1:47 haha funny little prick
rocksinoo 5 days ago
FU Theon.
RidalGaming 6 days ago
"Jamie Lannister sends his regards." ;-)
SolidSnake8295 1 week ago
@SolidSnake8295 When I first read that line I thought it might even be a Godfather reference, ie "Michael Corleone Says Hello." In fact I'm pretty sure it is. It's even better because (SPOILERS) both of those statements falsely assign blame. Jaime wasn't to blame, sure maybe the act was done on his behalf but he didn't do it, and I don't think he would have done it either.
ravenouscolonelhart 3 days ago
@ravenouscolonelhart And even if Jaime did want to he would have done it himself. He might not have been an honorable man overall, but he was in matters of combat... for the most part.
SolidSnake8295 1 day ago
SPOILERS KINDA I guess you could infer why I don't know just don't read unless you've read all the books
GOD FUCKING DAMN PEACE OF SHIT TWIN BASTARDS BURN IN THE SEVEN HELLS YOU SHITS. damn it George
cloudrokes 1 week ago
Theon you cuntard!
JJoneEIGHTY 1 week ago
"He's more use to us alive than dead." - Proof that Robb is ten times smarter than Joffrey. :P
shardikat 1 week ago 4
am with greyjoy cut blondie's head off and send it to his father
merrick104 1 week ago
Jeez.... It's spelled Jaime. NOT JAMIE.
tomsta117 2 weeks ago
Fuck you Theon
killzonephx 2 weeks ago 2
Jamie, always the charmer :3
Animanijak017 2 weeks ago
At 1:53 Jaime should say: "Good! Your learning fast."
MrFistword 2 weeks ago
Rest in Peace Robb Stark of Winterfell, True were Thy Course, A Wind at Your Back... Forever..
iamsexy22able 2 weeks ago
@iamsexy22able You really shouldn't make such a subtle spoiler. I'm immune because some1 else spoiled it 4 me... but COME ON don't repeat the same thing to ruin everyone else's experience.
Yeah, you're showing your love for Robb... but you're potentially ruining everyone else's experience. Besides, you might want Robb to read this if he were real, "...but the dead won't hear them."
This is me being polite. No offence intended. Simply trying to weight my word
fl333r 2 weeks ago
"If we do it your way kingslayer, you'd win. We're not doing it your way."
Smart lad.
TheJboy88 2 weeks ago
@TheJboy88 Sarcasm? XD
It sounds epic until you pay attention closely to what he says...
fl333r 2 weeks ago
IT'S JAIME NOT JAMIE!!!111ALLCAPS
SpyengoEen 2 weeks ago
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davey9000 3 weeks ago
@davey9000 The Tullys?! what are you talking about
Lessproductivestuff 2 weeks ago
Rob is so Badass!
ds2k15 3 weeks ago
A 2000 men diversionary suicide division? That sounds a bit... much. A mean, if they found a good strategic position they could've survived, surely... for more than a few hours.
Also, one more thing I didn't understand: Did the men Robb send to their graves KNOW they were going to die? Did the other soldiers in the army KNOW that the 2000 men sent were dead? Which 2000 men did he choose, really?
fl333r 3 weeks ago
@fl333r in the books they explain this with more details.
mechupanlamonda 2 weeks ago
@fl333r In the books, the 2000 men actually are able to retreat without too many casualties and regroup. It's not a simple suicide charge.
Angarwaen 1 week ago
@Angarwaen Really... hmm?
Thanks for telling me. The "I sent 2000 men to their graves today" part was demoralizing.
Or wait.. are you saying they made the battle last longer but still died in the end?
Who took more casualties, though? Tywin or the 2000 bannermen?
fl333r 1 week ago
@fl333r Nah, I meant that the Northmen still were beaten but most didn't die, they retreated and regrouped with fairly small casualties. Tywin still won though. The TV show transformed it into a mass sacrifice just to make it look dramatic.
Angarwaen 1 week ago
@Angarwaen Oh... thanks for clarifying! :)
fl333r 1 week ago
@Angarwaen i thought that it was robb who took 2000 horse and roose bolton was in command of the 18000 foot
SnOrKaLBoY1996 1 week ago
High five Jamie... You gotta give him a hand, he's pretty cute :)
Innerwolfable17 3 weeks ago 3
@Innerwolfable17 Oh the Irony
ds2k15 3 weeks ago 13
@Innerwolfable17 If that's a joke it's pretty funny, if it's not it's hilarious.
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@Innerwolfable17 ironic your talking about Jaimes hand. hehe
eblade9 2 weeks ago
"we are not doing your way" !!!
intacto750 3 weeks ago
You have to love this scene
alexpascu2785 3 weeks ago 21
A green boy, sure. More like to be brave than wise.
natanfk2 3 weeks ago
too many book spoilers around.can we just watch the series?
poegta 1 month ago
I am amazed how everybody is so sure about the outcome of single combats: one of the finest accomplishments of GRRM is the realism. Even if we admit that Jamie is better with sword than Ned (which is implied in the books) that doesn't mean that, in every 100 combats, he would win them all, many things come as factors.
Having said that, i'd bet money always on Jamie, Selmy, the Cleganes, Dayne, Loras and Drogo, less on Eddard, Strong Belwas, Brienne, Hotah and not so much on Mormont, Snow or Robb
quasij 1 month ago
@quasij Snow would bash the crap out of everyone.
JBCanimation 1 month ago
@JBCanimation Do you really think that Jon Snow would win against Jamie or Selmy? I have the feeling that Jon Snow is a good swordsman and a great leader, but not the opposite...
quasij 1 month ago
@quasij
no but the author who created the entire fantasy universe chose to directly address the question you're dismissing out of hand as inherently a waste of time (and to a certain extent I agree with you, there's way better things to argue about than this). that being the case, and since GRRM did take the time to specifically state Ned would get his ass handed to him by Jaime, it's silly to pretend like we really don't know for sure what the answer to this question is.
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago
What does Jamie mean by offering his sword?
juve96 1 month ago
@juve96 offering sword = capitulation
Lumprcamprdlik 1 month ago
complaining about spoilers is pointless, douchebags are going to put them up no matter what you want so just learn to live with it and not read the comments
Utracia1 1 month ago
I would say the best fighters in westeros are probably: Jamie, Drogo, Selmy, Syrio, Loras, Dayne, Robert Baratheon (pre series), Eddard stark
ninjaguy1995 1 month ago
Fuck the Freys
RussianBearNinja 1 month ago
I'm on the 4th book, I'm wondering what has happened to Theon; if he is alive or not after.. you know (trying not to spoil anything here)
prettyreckless2700 1 month ago
@prettyreckless2700
yeah he's alive
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago
And here i thought Robb was supposed to be 15
jtbowman421 1 month ago
1 lannister was captured and raped in the hoods
TheNytdj 1 month ago
at first i hate jaime and king joffrey but then i realize what great actors they are because they make me feel for them
hikarikoi7 1 month ago
Theon is an idiot.
markenobi 1 month ago
LONG LIVE ULFRIC STORMCLOAK. oh wait thats rob stark
Barthinater 1 month ago
@Barthinater xD
teh117 1 month ago
really a moving scene, seeing Kat's guard down ffor the first time and all
MohnJcIntyre 1 month ago
He didn't lose his sword, he mislaid it.
HCTFuzz722 1 month ago
ehmmm he's hot as a lord of Winterfell
bloodymaarta 1 month ago
The Starks needed a win, I am glad that GRRM decided to give them this victory
halofable574 1 month ago
Come on! Pretty man.
juve96 1 month ago
why all u like so much jaime???!!!!because he's good at sword...???FUCK ALL THE LANNISTERS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS!!!!!!
Kwstasffcladose 1 month ago
@Kwstasffcladose
Jamie's character totally turns around and becomes one of the most awesome guys in the series. By the end of the third book you'll be rooting for him, I promise you.
SkunkyAngry 1 month ago 21
@SkunkyAngry he definitely does redeem himself in a way but i wouldn't say i'm rooting for him just yet
HusslerkiD 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@SkunkyAngry Shut up, dammit. I'm only at the end of the first book.
Cerberusballs 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry i hated jamie for a long time too. but in around the third book he became awesome to me too! hope he survives the franchise :)
darthchris19 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry stop spoiling!!!
chreberle 1 month ago
@chreberle
aw, for christ sake, I'm not spoiling anything. It's called an arc and every character has one. I just don't like to see noobs hating on Jaime cause they haven't read far enough.
SkunkyAngry 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry it's okay - I did not want to flame you or something.
chreberle 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry Well, most of us did hate him at some point, so it's only fair to let these guys have a chance at it as well
Erufailon42 1 month ago
@chreberle
get off the internet bro, why would you dig through a bunch of nerd commentary about a video based on a tv show set in a fantasy universe and then complain that you never saw the eventuality that someone might actually mention something from the series that you most everyone here loves? Sequester yourself with the books. Run through them, find out what happens if you want to know so badly.
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry THANKS FOR THE FUCKING SPOILER YOU INCONSIDERATE FUCK.
IntolerantMaster 1 month ago
@IntolerantMaster
So you're saying that fans shouldn't discuss, mention or allude to anything online that occurs past the first season for the sake of everyone who hasn't read the books? Fuck off, you little cry baby. I didn't give anything away. Btw, I'M not the one who thumbed up my comment putting it at the top.
SkunkyAngry 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry You can just don't post it in such a public area. Post it on a GOT forum. I'm reading what little I can of the second book in between exams. Now I know;
A) Jaime survives until at least the third book and
B) He essentially changes his attitude towards life.
IntolerantMaster 1 month ago
@IntolerantMaster
Jaime is freed by Catelyn Stark at the end of the second book and spends the third book under the supervision of Brienne of Tarth as she escorts him back to Kings Landing in exchange for the Stark girls. On the way, they're captured by sellswords who cut off Jaime's hand and nearly kill him. At this point he starts feeling empathy towards Brienne whom he initially loathed and by the time he gets to Kings Landing, he's a changed man.
Now THAT'S a spoiler.
contactlenssolution 1 month ago
@contactlenssolution I wish I hadn't read that, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-!
noobkaka567 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry halfway through the 3 book still noot on his side but he is getting to me still his brother is the awesomest ever
bastardusnorvegius 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry Lol here in australia rooting mean something else :P
JBCanimation 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry I dont think i will like him after he fucks his sister and tried to kill ned's son... dont spoil tho
JayMK47 4 weeks ago
@SkunkyAngry Boy, do you have that right. He's a much more "layered" person than the first couple of shows portray. I ended up feeling sorry for him and hated it when he lost his hand. Damn, he's a good looking man. saj
eclecticsteph 3 weeks ago
@SkunkyAngry seriously, i dont really care how much jamies character changes, it doesnt change what he already did.
KaiMelo 3 weeks ago
They made this scene so emotive... soundtrack is awesome
Borh2 1 month ago
jaimes armor isn't very gold....
equallyeasilyfuqyou 1 month ago
Damn the red wedding!
MrBeavis84 1 month ago
Man I love Theon. And I don't exactly know why.
metav3rvse 1 month ago
@metav3rvse Just out of curiosity, have you read the books?
CaptainPengu 1 month ago
@CaptainPengu Yeah... still love him.
metav3rvse 1 month ago
@metav3rvse okay :D
CaptainPengu 1 month ago
@metav3rvse his name is reek, it rhymes with leek, it ryhmes with freak. He has to remember his name or he will lose another finger.
halofable574 1 month ago
does the setting in this scene remind anyone of Henry V when he gives the St. Crispans day speech?
tedtheshed 1 month ago
"Checkmate motherfucker."
ornjoos 1 month ago
Please, Ser Barristan would cut Jaime as easily as a knife cuts cheese!
natanfk2 1 month ago
can't wait for those wedding bells!
equallyeasilyfuqyou 1 month ago
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The King in the North!!
royaledave 1 month ago
The King in the North!!
royaledave 1 month ago
his strategy sucks, so much men died just to capture jamie
anonymous133711 1 month ago
@anonymous133711
he's outmanned 60,000 to 18-22,000 depending on the strength of his host initially, and how literally Theon's comment about having the Frey's having about a fifth the manpower of the Northmen should be read. Sacrificing 2,000 of that number is not an unreasonable decision to gain what should have been at least a default draw (trade Ned for Jaime, pardon everyone from the North, war's over as far as they were thinking at the time)
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago
@DaveXRubicon 60,000men? so he defeated the other 30k right?
anonymous133711 1 month ago
Selmy would own Jaime. Eddards dad said Selmy was the best he ever seen. And Eddards dad was never wrong in matters of combat.
GlennShook 1 month ago
@GlennShook Well it dosent matter cuz if events that occur, but he said Selmy "WAS" the best "HE" had ever "SEEN" that does make him spectacular no doubt, not Nescacarly better than the Kingslayer
TheKturner05 1 month ago
i love Greatjon Umber is, well, the man.
blackdot550 1 month ago
What...no Dire Wolf running with them? Dissapointed...
lotsofangrycats 1 month ago
"but the dead wont hear them" epic quote
Czechforce 1 month ago
is it me or jamie looks like prince charming???? ????? (on shrek)
TheOtterotter 1 month ago
The ambush part is awesome in the book, IMHO.
Scarletraven87 2 months ago
My favorite scene of season 1.
greyhorseazeri 2 months ago
"If we do it your way, Kingslayer...you win. We're not doing it your way." KING IN THE NORTH!
eso927 2 months ago
Barristan is maybe old,but I would put my money on him against anyone.
zoric82 2 months ago
Screw you, Theon.
OverlordNibble 2 months ago
Even if he did take the challenge and win it, the Lannisters would not surrender.
AntiTroll101 2 months ago
And that's a real dimbass speech from Robb.
Only a fool would take the heart from his men like that, in the books Robb is far from that.
1987LStat 2 months ago
Barristan is still badass but he's old. Lannister would kick his ass.
Only person in Westeros to challenge him is Garlan Tyrell and maybe the hound too.
1987LStat 2 months ago
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The only person in the books who could give jaime lannister a run for his money in terms of fighting skill is barriston selmy.fact. That's a fight I'd like to see
cocaineuk87 2 months ago
Can't wait till season three, its going to be fucking intense.
leaderliter 2 months ago
Barristan Selmy is finest knight in all of Westeros according to books,so he could take Jaime.
minotauruskt 2 months ago
@minotauruskt jaime would take barristan i think
cocaineuk87 2 months ago
You have to hand it to the Lannisters... They're snappy dressers.
eXcommunicate1979 2 months ago
of couse he would win boy...he's the finnest sworsman on the seven kingdoms, better then any tyrell better than any martell, notherman or kingsguard, the only ones that can beat him are exiled or dead
kain1290 2 months ago
Jaime made a new "Mad King" by fucking his sister!
TheCruizer 2 months ago
"We are not doing it your way" ATTA BOYYY ROBB lol
Foxist101 2 months ago 2
Probrably like half a dozen guys in all of Westeros would take that challenge: Barristan Selmy, Sandor Clegane, Thoros of Myr, Gregor Clegane, Loras Tyrell, etc... and, honestly, I think Jaime would hack the shit out of all of them. I like Robb and Cat, but when someone's got the nickname ''Kingslayer'' that guy had badass written all over him ahahahah Go Jaime >=D
wattoucheng 2 months ago 15
@wattoucheng what about all of them against him all at once....',:/
teh117 2 months ago
@wattoucheng I'll bet Selmy could take him. Loras Tyrell, no way, he's like a proto-Jaime, the real thing has him beat. Gregor and Sandor would both be too slow being such huge guys. Jaime would have beat Ned too if it had continued, although I don't know if he could have disarmed him and taken him alive like he wanted to. I'll bet Selmy could take Jaime though, Jaime even admitted that Selmy was the best he'd ever seen.
ravenouscolonelhart 2 months ago
@ravenouscolonelhart Garlan Tyrell pwns Jaime easily, the guy spares with four people at once
Darkwarlord1533 2 months ago
@wattoucheng in fairness all he did to earn that was stab an old man in the back, i could do that. Jaime himself admits later that loras is as good as he is and sandor clegane knocks him out of the tournament in the book. I also reckon syrio forel, khal drogo, and ned stark all stand good chances of beating him
JDrakeify 2 months ago 14
@JDrakeify Ned Stark couldnt take Jamie....in the books its made obvious that Ned cant match Jaimes skill when they fight and in the show Jaime is just playing with ned, hes similing throughout the fight and appears pretty much laid back throughout the whole thing like he finds it amusing.... while ned is giving it his all
cocaineuk87 2 months ago
@cocaineuk87 thats just representative of their personalities, Jaime is said to always find everything to be a joke in the books whilst Ned is very serious. Its also said that the only two times Jaime feels alive is during sex and fighting. Also, Ned says he doesnt fight in tournaments becuase when he fights a man for real he doesnt want them to know what he can do. Barristan mentions that he cut down loads of knights when he was younger, plus ned is like 40 and not as physically fit as Jaime
JDrakeify 2 months ago
@JDrakeify you and I could stab a old guy in the back. Stab a King in the back and have the balls to face it before the whole kingdom is an entirely different thing. Of the guy you noted, I reckon Syrio would lack strenght to outmatch Jaime and Drogo would simply lack knowledge to face elite-armored westeros knights such as Jaime. Loras = too green to take someone much more experienced, Ned = too old and too much honor to face someone who actually uses men honor's against themselves.
wattoucheng 2 months ago
@wattoucheng i think girl will kill Jaime.
Jadepokonia 2 months ago
@wattoucheng if i was jaime i reckon i could handle it cos in my head i knew that i acted rightly killing such an evil man in order to defend kings landing and my family. And in my opinion with drogo the westeros knight thing wont matter cos he's both quicker and stronger than him. drogo has had to fight his way to the top in what even king robert admits is an army which is a lot harder than any in westeros
JDrakeify 2 months ago
@JDrakeify is syrio ned starks daughters 'dancing' instructor, sorry, its been awhile since i saw Game of Thrones, I forget the names.
roflknife64 1 month ago
@roflknife64 Yes the first sword of Braavos he was teaching her the Waterdance style.
UchihaGamer111 1 month ago
@roflknife64 yh
JDrakeify 1 month ago
@JDrakeify Of course! The title "Kingslayer" is not an endearing one that speaks of fair prowess, but of the ability to fight cheaply and stab someone in the back (or eye, ugh).
assassinscreed00 1 month ago
@JDrakeify : He stabbed a mad King who thousands dared not defy. You have also chosen to only take bits of the book suited to your belief. In the books Jaime thinks to himself he could beat Gregor as he is faster, how true that is remains untold. Syrio Forel and Khal Drogo are foreigners who never have experience fighting against plated foes, the fight [SPOILER] between barristan the bold and that bodyguard of Hizdar lo Loraq is a good example of that. Ned Stark is too old really.
redcodec 1 month ago
@redcodec well the fact that he's said to be the greatest knight in all of westeros is evidence its not just his belief, but also those who are fighters in slavers bay dont even approach the standard of the dothraki, and this is why they always go and sack their cities. In the first book its said that for ser jorah to defeat one of the dothraki, he needed to wait until he was hit to have time to kill him. Drogo wouldn't give jaime that chance, he'd just go for the throat as he did in the tv show
JDrakeify 1 month ago
@JDrakeify : Jorah is nowhere near the kingslayer's skill level.
redcodec 1 month ago
@redcod but neither is the bloodrider anywhere near the level of skill of drogo, so they both have the same gap between them. Plus it isnt so much to do with jorahs skill as the armour weighing him down, its probably would happen to all westeros knights.
JDrakeify 1 month ago
@JDrakeify : so your point is a westerosi knight would be weighted down by armour hence a disadvantage against a dohtraki? did you read my point about that bodyguard wielding a arakh against baristan the bold in plate armour? You raised a statement saying the fighters in slavers bay don't even approach the standard of the dothraki. that bodyguard was one of the best in the fighting pits of meereen. and, where in the book does a comparison between the slaver pit fighters and dothraki exist?
redcodec 1 month ago
@redcodec well its said that the only army that the army which gave the dothraki the best run for their money was the unsullied, and even then they werent totally defeated. plus its mentioned that the cities of slavers bay usually try and pay the dothraki off instead of letting them sack the city. If you read between the lines, you can see that they'd beat them
JDrakeify 1 month ago
@JDrakeify : an important point missed is the dothraki are strong in the field because they are mounted. They are natural riders and one of the finest. But we're talking about them fighting on foot here. And second point missed is as you mentioned, the fighters of slaver's bay are inferior warriors, nothing compared to a westerosi knight. And in the context of your first line they were refering to that specific region and it does not cover westeros.
redcodec 1 month ago
@redcodec well the dothraki on foot are extremely quick, especially the bad ass ones like drogo, whereas westorosi knights are slow, and on horseback they still have their armour. the dothraki are still probably as fast in relation to a knight of westeros on horseback as one on foot.
JDrakeify 1 month ago
@JDrakeify : i don't think every westeroi knight is slow on foot. nowhere does it say jaime is slow... the contrary is true. besides, the fight between barristan and the meereense pit fighter flashing his arakh with blinding speed shows what happens with you go naked against a plated and skilled westerosi knight, flashing fast arakh or not...
redcodec 1 month ago
@redcodec THEY SHOULD SO DO A DEADLIEST WARRIOR EPISODE ABOUT IT!!!! lol jk
halofable574 1 month ago
@JDrakeify Ned Stark doesn't even stand a chance. He is a lousy swordsman, the show exaggerated his abilities .
Oberyn Martell
Greatjon
StrongBoar of Crakehall
Syrio Forel
Ser Barristan
Clegane Brothers
and Jaime never admits Loras is as good as him. He just admitted that Loras is as arrogant as Jaime used to be.
deathwagon94 1 month ago
@deathwagon94 Ned Stark cut through 3 Kingsguard in Dorne..
tearsinrain86 1 month ago
@tearsinrain86
NOt alone. Ned had them outnumbered 10 to 3 .yet he lost 8 men :). Jaime is known for his swordfighting abilities . He cut through Robb's guards like carving a cake.
deathwagon94 1 month ago
@deathwagon94 dont think the greatjon would take him or oberyn martell cos presumably if jaime if the best knight in westeros he's fought oberyn martell at some point
JDrakeify 1 month ago
@deathwagon94 he's not as good as the ppl youve stated but he's far from lousy
HusslerkiD 1 month ago
@JDrakeify
Yeah, if Ned was Jaime's age during their confrontation, that fight would have been over a lot quicker.
Apollomasque 1 month ago
@Apollomasque the only reason jaime won was because of the guard that stabbed him in the leg...
ThaFreekinG 1 month ago
@ThaFreekinG
Read the book for gods sake. Ned was as good as doomed when Jaime walked upto him with a sword. Ned Stark is nowhere near Jaime Lannister.This is not Harry Potter or Eragon where the good guy is also the strongest warrior in the world. This is the best story ever written.
deathwagon94 1 month ago 2
@deathwagon94 I know Jaime is a boss and i'm not implying that he would win because he is a good guy....he would maybe have had a decent chance or maybe even have wounded him.
ThaFreekinG 1 month ago
@ThaFreekinG : whether it was in the show or book's version, it was clear ned stark lost. In the show, ned stark was trying to hard to keep up during his fight with Jaime while Jaime was simply getting more energetic and confident as the duel progresses. this can be seen clearly on their facial expressions from jaime's confident smile and overpowering posture and ned's face turning more strained by the minute. in the book, ned was never even stabbed in the leg...
redcodec 1 month ago
@redcodec Those facial expressions don't necessarily mean that Jaime was gaining the upper hand, it just showed their outlook on fighting, Jamie found it fun, Ned despised it.
Arkantos117 1 month ago
@JDrakeify
I believe GRRM has stated that Ned Stark was a talented tactician but not nearly on the same level as the top tier warriors of Westeros, even in his prime. Syrio and Drogo fight in completely different manners both from each other and the knights of Westeros, and jousting in tournaments is distinctly not fighting to the death with swords. no stark is worth mentioning here, the best westerosi fighters I believe are Selmy, the Cleganes, Jaime, Loras and the Viper of Dorne. Hodor too.
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago 12
@DaveXRubicon well in his prime, ned took down 3 of the kingsguard, including gerold hightower and arthur dayne , granted, he had 6 others there with him but the only one to survive was howland reed.
JDrakeify 1 month ago 2
@JDrakeify You're absolutely right, Ned and Reed were the survivors of an 8 v 3 against some of the toughest badasses that ever walked Westeros. 2 caveats though, firstly, we don't actually know what the exact circumstances of this battle were (we know the where and not nearly enough about the details of the why, I hope GRRM will provide us with the rest of that scene before he finishes the series,or,um,dies). Second,when you walk into an 8v3 and lose 75% KIA,it doesn't say SO much
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago
@DaveXRubicon Robert was good too..in his prime. when he didn 't weigh 250 lbs
emperor1994 1 month ago
@DaveXRubicon wrong
gregorygumpas 1 month ago
@DaveXRubicon Warriors are warriors and that is all. Ned Stark, Robert, Tywin are the generals that command warriors.
randomusernamemygod 1 month ago
@randomusernamemygod I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Hannibal and Napoleon are probably the 2 greatest historical generals I can think of offhand, and neither one would stack up well in the average prison yard scuffle. Brilliant tacticians are emphatically not the same species of 'warrior' as Cassius Clay or Royce Gracie. Robert was less a general in the sense that Tywin lannister was, so much as a force of nature during his uprising, I don't see ur point.
DaveXRubicon 1 month ago
@DaveXRubicon Robert in his prime. Ser Arthur Dayne, Ser Gerold Hightower, Rhaegar.
alexrider27 1 month ago