Why did the Catholic Church help so many Nazi's escape out of Germany through Italy right after the holocost. I seen on the History channel how the Catholics were helping the nazi's get to South America after the war. The catholic church really gives me the creeps I never want to be involved with it ever again. Thanks for showing these videos helps wake a few people up. But I actually think most christian churces are about as bad.
Not that I'm in any way defending the newest pope, but so what if he was in Hitler Youth as a child? Weren't all children at that time forced to be in Hitler Youth? I mean, I don't think I can really blame him if he was in a Nazi organization when he was still just a young impressionable child.
@FrankLightheart I know the communist didn't side with the Catholics, the bolsheviks aka xews murdered millions of Chrisitans and shot priest in the street, in cold blood. Hitler saw them coming for Germany so I guess he figured he could defend the German Christians or allow the xewish bolsheviks to murder them. The soviet union moved to xsrael.
Nazi's appropriated symbols used for other purposes, such as the swastika. At Heydrich's funeral a bishop's garment celebrates the fiend; such does not render the Church evil. If you look carefully, you will find Herbert Hoover condemning Nazi treatment of Jews & Catholic priests. Blame rests with Germany as a country, both its govt & its people, as well as Europe in general, but only during that time. Muslims of the era are also blameworthy. No one born after 1945 can possibly be blamed.
I'm a religious Jew from Israel.Today I read a long article about Cardinal Graf Von Galen who in 1940 publically denounced the Nazis where ever he went & Gestapo were plannng to kill him when they won the war.Also many Catholics and Protestants hid Jews at the danger of their lives!You are stating generalities.Jews were killed by the Catholic Church for 2 thous.years but it wwas the misuse of Papal power.There were many Catholic-Protestant wars & killings too.
At 1:48 The speech is known as "Proclamation to the German Nation, February 1, 1933". Easily verified. Why did someone add "Catholic" to the title here?
And if a real Catholic is shown w/Hitler, note the date & recall Nazis didn't even invade Poland until 1939!
The "bishop" shaking hands w/Hitler was Reich Bishop Ludwig Muller of the Deutsche Evangelische Kirche (German Evangelical Church), and involved with Nazism practically since its inception.
@182RG You can also find a lot of photos of bishops or priests shaking hands with communist leaders. In fact, Hitler was overwhelmingly popular until 1940 and there was never a great popular insurrection against his policies (not even when racial laws were passed, at the beginning of his dictatorship).
Indeed. He had taken credit for Germany's economic turn-around from the depths of choking depression, put millions back to work, regained land without a single shot being fired, and turned Gemany into one of the most respected and feared nations on earth. Modern German historians state that had Hitler died in 1938, he undoubtedly would have gone down in German history as the greatest statesmen of all time!
@182RG Racial laws were passed in 1935, within that period. So you cannot point finger at the catholic church without doing the same with tens of millions of germans.
Not Surprising. Hitler was Austrian NOT German and especially not Upper Prussian. A brief read of 19th history shows a struggle between northern protestant germans and southern Catholic Imperial Austrians.
New York Trotskys and their Reds like to blame the Vatican...yet cheer the Pope's 3rd encyclical of 2010, in support of the new world financial order. WHY'S THAT?
Hitler attempted to do for Germany what Andrew Jackson did for America, KILL THE CENTRAL BANKS.
I wouldnt doubt that some catholics and clergy supported hitler, but only because he was anti-commie. Records show that excomunication was the penalty for joining the nazi party. Records also show that hitler wanted to kidnap pius xii and since that did not go through, assasinate him.
@gladass17 Falsify? What have I falsified? Prove your claim. How is the Church what u claim it is.
BTW, One of the greatest perpetrators of modern Papist/Romanist/Wafer eater whatever, Ralph Woodrow has rebuked his book claiming the Vatican is pagan, & wrote his own rebuttal entitled The Babylon Connection? I recommend u read it.
@WorldBibleUnion454 From what I remember from Bible teaching,God gave us choice and atheism and Darwinism are what I subscribe to. While I am aware there are very many good and pious members of the Catholic church,there is also an element that will manipulate members for their own selfish agenda. With the greatest of respect,a creed doesn't have to be adhered to as long as there is faith in ones own applications of life. The Catholic church revels in indoctrination and spreading fear.
@05giacomo we invented anti antisemitism? how ? and yes we hated the soviet union because it was communist country that oppressed its people.Hitler killed millions but staling killed more so when you write a comment please think about before you spill all you hatred you left idiot
@JAEGERSTER you know judenstrafe? in the middle ages jews were executed in a more cruel way...they were put into getthos ect ect...these are historical facts
@05giacomo what does that have to do with the topic we were talking about.you can take the murders from jugendstrafe and from Hitler and you would still not come close to the murders that happen under Stalin in the gulags
The Romans were anti-Semitic before Christianity even began.
And yes the Catholic Church hated the Soviet Union, especially after they joined Hitler in invading Poland, one of the most devoutly Catholic countries in the world.
They may call themselves "Jews", but they are actually converted Khazar Zionist. They follow the Talmud and Kaballa, which reveals grave findings. There are African tribes(The Lemba) with far more Hebrew DNA than anyone living in Israel. ISRAEL IS A HUGE LIE, and according to the Christian Bible, the people of Israel are from "The Synagog's of Satan" ...9/11 = 100% INSIDE JOB....WW1, WW2, ? <---A great deal of the facts were hidden. Search: "Jewish Nazi" ...Zionist = Nazi
@luyben12 how does it feel to be really stupid, you ignoramus ? The Nazis and the Communists were the same "Big Party" which is what "Bolshevik" means in Russian, the Big Party . It was Anti Catholic from the start and that is why 80% of the Russian Soviet Army ,the "Bund" were made up of Russian Jews who wanted and did so , murder twenty million Russians in the 1920s, by dragging them out of their homes and shooting them in the head in the dark of night, trucked to unmarked graves.
Hitler was himself an Askanazi Jew of Berber Morocco, check the Jerusalem Post last august, So he killed six million Jews because he was betrayed by the Jewish Bankers who in return for aide to Israel, was supposed to finance the Third Reicht. And , besides six million Jews Hitler killed, Hitler also killed FIVE MILLION Polish Catholics, and so Hitler was not Catholic or Jewish, and all you idiots are totally ignoramuses. Nazis and Communists were "Socialist Progressives' AntiChrist
Hitler supported Israel in the Haava Agreement, to build up Israel, but Hitler wanted the Jewish Bankers to finance his campaign to conquer the world, and he would be messiah. When the Jews bailed on Hitler, Jewish Nazis formed a counter organization called 'The Black Front" where former Nazi Jews became allied with Bolshevik Commie Jews of Russia. One worse than the other, and then the Jews blamed the Catholic Church when the whole Shenanigans was exposed and caused 20 million deaths.
the real History connection was that the Pope was against the Nazis in 1932 and German Catholics voted 75% AGAINST Hitler, but the Jews considered Hitler a Labor Socialist Progressive, and Hitler supported the development of Israel in exchange for the Rothchilds Financial arrangement to help Hitler build a Military Comples. Hitler wanted the Jews to help make him their Messiah , and when they bailed on him, Hitler turned to killing all the Jews. Jews were both Commies and Nazis at one time
If you want to say Hitler had connections in the Vatican, it is like saying Hitler and the Pope, both lived in Europe, and had obviously contacts. But , the Jews had much more contact with Hitler in the late 1920s. The Rothchilds , the Intellectual Jews that nominated Hitler for the Nobel Prize, ( Gertrude Stein) And many of the early leaders of Israel happened to be loyal Nazis. The Jews broke off relations with Hitler, as Hitler wanted the Rothchilds to give him more money for WARS.
@TomSawyerSpongeRay Look, Pope Pious XII made a radio speech in Paris, before the War to denounce Adolf Hitler , and it is history , if you care to check on it. The Parisians know what the Pope said to condemn the actions of Hitler, who was preparing to bring the world to war and ruin. So , you have a small mind, but a good brain, but it is empty of facts. Why don't you study a little more on the subject, You might be embarrassed so ignorant you once were.
Anyone who thinks that the vatican was not complicit in many of the Nazi party moves is severely deluded. Only when Germany looked like losing did Hitlers wee pet pope work out where he should have had his loyalties.
In 1942 HItler found out that Pope Pious XII and German Catholics , were organized to assassinate Hitler, and that an attempt by the Nazis was made on the Pope. The Pope while Cardinal in 1932 advised the Holy See and the Papacy declared Hitler as a murderer in 1932 and 75 % of the German Catholics voted against the Nazi Party, and later, organized every Catholic Bishop in the world to give papers to German Jews in a world wide attempt to escape them from the Holocaust. All TRUTH !!!
@MrEriesal The Jerusalem Post last August published clear historical proofs that Pope Pious XII was innocent and made many heroic acts to save the Jews, The facts are the facts, and propaganda has always an agenda. When you find out what the agenda is, you find out lies. In 1932 The Catholics of Germany voted 75% against the Nazi Party, but the Jews voted for the Socialist Workers Party and was had, Gertrude Stein nominated Hitler for the Nobel Prize, just like they voted for Obama
The Pope told the German Catholics in 1932 to vote against Adolf Hitler, in view of his Mein Kampf vision of hell. But the Jews . like Gertrude Stein, being Progressive Socialist and thinking Hitler wanted to help Israel , nominated Hitler for the Nobel Peace Prize. When the Jews found Hitler out and cut off the funds from the Banks, then Hitler turned to revenge murder of the Jews, for he presumed to own the world if he showed favor to Israel. All the early Israeli leaders were Nazis also.
In all this game, the devil is the victim, is the scapegoat, will be acused of everything cause the GOD don’t want any rivals*. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form,following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil cause he is just a temporary puppet.
After having so many pedophiles exposed, why would you allow your child to be a part of the Catholic Church? Do you really think there are no more pedophiles in the church? Do you realize how long children have been raped and molested by these freaks? When it came to killing Jews, Hitler found a good friend in the Catholic Church. When Hitler wanted to rule the planet, he stepped on the toes of the Catholic Church. Croatians are Catholics, but they treated Jews even worst than the Nazi.
Amen!! Tell it!! Tell it!! Them roman catholics are nuthin but a pernicious breed of satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! THATS ALL they are, .. just satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! So PRAISE YOU brother for speaking the truth about those devils!!
Amen!! Tell it!! Tell it!! Them roman catholics are nuthing but pernicious breed of satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! THATS ALL they are, .. just satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! So PRAISE YOU brother for speaking the truth about those devils!!
Just remember, .. it was FUNDIE "christians" who enslaved the niggers, burned witches, stole land from indians, and are today persecuting the homo's, .. not catholics.
and where came your "FUNDIE christians" from? From the roman catholic Europe.
When you are your whole life under Brainwash-System, then you can not leave it behind you in one second. That needs time. The roman catholic Church did Inquisitation, Progroms and Genocides long time before the Reformation. It was and is still a fix part of the rcc-system: Kill all what is diffrent from you and not want to obey.
Fact not theory. Study the life history of Hitler and his family. Germany was the "holy roman empire" not long ago. Very few catholics if any were persecuted compared to the millions of Jews murdered. They were the handful that felt guilty and stood up for the Jews. Where do you think all the gold and money went that was stolen from the Jews? Switzerland to Rome. Ratline.The current pope was a nazi youth. You really need to study history to know the truth behind it. Foxes book of Martyrs 4 truth
You people are too deeply transformed by the propaganda you've been subjected to. You love the satanist Talmudists and wage wars for them, but hate the True Church, as She is the only Church that stood in the way of the jews evil machinations. Unfortunately, the Church of today is no longer the pure Church of the previous 19 centuries, and She is also submitting Herself to their evil designs.
hitler was christian so???? Stalin militant atheist 40 million killed , mao atheis 65 million killed, pol pot atheist killed 2.5 million people or 25% of cambodia in 3 years , kim jong ill 3million killed and the list goes on and on
This was the only verifiable piece on his suspension that I could find:
"Schachleitner, who had been a National Socialist since 1926, was suspended for publishing a euphoric article on Hitler’s rise to power in Völkischer Beobachter in February 1933. After Hitler had him reinstated, Schachleitner served the regime as Nazi Germany’s model Catholic until his death in 1937."
So it's hard to know what kind of suspenseion we're talking about. It seems by this that he wasn't excommunicated.
My reference was Oded Heilbronner's review (published of Kevin Spicer's "Hitler's Priests: Catholic Clergy and National Socialism"
He was not excommunicated, that would mean he couldn't even *receive* communion, much less offer it. That would have only happened if he was openly defying the church, he did follow their direct orders, even though he broke their rules.
If your library has a proquest account or something similar, you can look at the old newspaper articles. From what I can piece together, Schaleiter lost his mass celebrating privileges after his first incident with the church, though he seems to have been reinstated as a priest due to Nazi protests (though, as his obituary in the NYT states, his right to officiate mass was never returned. Then one year later he got in more trouble for writing "that Nazis adhered staunchly to
the principles of Christianity". By writing this, the Archbishop officials said he was "setting himself against the church authorities as well as the entire German hierarchy."
An official said, "His article means open insurrection against a church order and violates the rule prohibiting a member of the clergy from printing articles without the approval of the regional bishop" to quote the "Washington Post" (who were in turn quoting the "Bavarian Courier")
I do see quite a bit of posturing on the part of catholics to try and distance themselves from what eventually happened. Because of my personal research, though, I will give pope Pius a passing grade for what he said in Lourdes in a rather well publicized speech criticizing the Nazi's. I'll not go so far as exonerate him, however, because it does appear that later on he made some deals that he would later come to regret. Back to that quote about dining with the devil.
And just a follow up to your continuation.. after reading your post again, I am again surprised that the catholic church didn't excommunicate for the offense. That might have limited Hitler's ability to simply re-enstate him. Seems like that's what happened here anyway.
There was a strong political motive. According to Lewy's "The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany", "In a talk with Vicar-General Buchwieser of the Archdiocese of Munich, Seidler had demanded that the Archbishop issue an order prohibiting the political activity of the clergy, and he had asked for the rehabilitation of Abbot Schachleiter as a price for stopping further arrests of priests. . . .Faulhaber, anxious not to jeopardize the negations for the Concordat in Rome,
retreated on both issues [the other issue (in the . . . .) was that the outspoken anti-Nazi, Dr. Emil Muhler, had remained the leader of Catholic Action] (page 101).
I get that, but this conversation is now basically back to where it started from in the beginning. That being that the church has no business in either politics or science since it's simply not built to deal with either of them. Every time it tries to do so.. and I do mean EVERY time.. the cracks show big time. Politics are the stuff of man.. and are not divine. Science is divine but out of the full grasp of any man's church. Where religion is invoked in either one, it's folly.
I generally agree, my point is that this is not a good example, given that the Church's political parties (particularly the Center Party) were the RIVALS of the Nazi Party, which is again, why Hitler forced the Center Party to dissolve before he would sign the Concordat, and why he forced the Church to stay out of politics in the Concordat (see article 32). What happened after the church lost its political power is immaterial for this matter
Well I feel it's a decent example because the one question your not asking is: "What if they didn't?".
My thought is that they "did" because they were seeking to remain in political power and that had nothing to do with what was godly or holy. But we do mostly agree.. the main point is that when we see things like this unfold.. not to rush to one side or the other but instead to examine motives and follow the money trail.
"My thought is that they "did" because they were seeking to remain in political power and that had nothing to do with what was godly or holy."
Which group are you talking about?
If you mean the Catholics, that is wrong; they literally gave up their political power in Germany, their motive being the legal protections for their church activities in the concordat. They wanted to be able to minister to their flock, there was spiritual intentions
I have to disagree.. but I do see your point. What your not doing is making a distinction between the organized church and the followers. It's hard to say what was going through the pope's mind when he signs a document basically saying that the NAZI regime is inline with catholic doctrine. Yes, if you look at it as "leaving the political arena" what you say is true.. but your not examining the alternative. If they had not signed Hitler would have had far less support.
*Its HERESY to equate God to creation as H2o *Trinity is man-made/has NO basis in Scripture *God is ONE [Exod20:3, Mrk12:29, Quran2:163] *God is NOT man/son of [Num23:19] and NEVER seen [Exod33:20] *Christ is created by a Word of God just as Adam or Universe "Let there BE..." [Gen ch1,2] *God does NOT need blood sacrifice [Hos6:6] *you are NOT born with original sin [Ezek18:20] *Salvation is: Surrender to God [ISLAM] and His MERCY.
Is any willing to surrender to GOD [Muslim] now and be saved?
The Catholic Abbott Schachleitner, standing left of the man shaking hands with Hitler was suspended by his bishop, and sent to a small village where he died, stripped of his Ecclesiastical authority.
There was no one to suspend Ludwig Muller (the man shaking hands with Hitler), Protestants didn''t have any foreign authorities like the Vatican, all their leader were under the German Government. Those who disobeyed, like Niemöller and F. Weißler were sent to concentration camps
The New World Catholic Order will not prevail until the last Eastern Christian liturgy stops...and that my friends will be never. Rome never symbolized Catholicism until 1054, before that it was just Christianity, in which Constantine the Great converted the Romans to Christianity and moved his capital to Constantinople instead of Rome. Constantinople later became Orthodox because it kept it's original traditions and faith, while the Catholics separated in 1054 to form their own Church.
Considering that Franco let the Jews escape into Spain it is ironic that the Spanish fascists are in here so much. The maker is probably hoping we don't know that.
Looks like we have 143 uncomfortable catholics. Now while I'm not a fan of the conspiracy nonsense, I am a proponent of vigilance. When the catholic church or any other entity asks us to set aside our morality it's a problem. People have an innate understanding of right and wrong based on how we would want to be treated. This is abused by the church.
Time and time again, when religion involves it's self in politics, it ends badly and becomes part of an immoral machine.. as it did in the 30's.
"Time and time again, when religion involves it's self in politics, it ends badly..."
Actually the Nazis main political rival was the Catholic Center Party, so his terms for the Concordat was that priests had to stay out of politics and dissolve the Center Party (in return he said he would let them worship and so on as they pleased, though he violated this).
And the priest at 1:55 (left of Protestant Bishop Muller who was shaking hands with Hitler) was suspended in Feb. 1933
I doubt it was for shaking hands with Hitler. I suppose it's time for me to read the agreement in full to see what it was the catholics got out of the agreement and how it was worded. It's going to be pretty hard to get away from the fact that the catholics looked at Hitler and his Nazi platform and could think in any moral way that it was a "win win". That is what still has us all gobsmacked 70 years later.
He was suspended for publicly supporting Nazism. He is standing next to the person shaking Hitler's hand, the one shaking Hitler's hand was Ludwig Muller, the national bishop of the Evangelicals (Protestants)
'It's going to be pretty hard to get away from the fact that the catholics looked at Hitler and his Nazi platform and could think in any moral way that it was a "win win".'
This was not a win-win, it was a last resort. Look at the context. Hitler had deliberately put restrictions on church funds, Catholic groups, etc. to force their hand. They were afraid of another Kulturkampf, but thought with the concordat,
"we shall have the chance of proceeding more vigorously against numerous anti-Catholic actions.", or at least, as the cardinal (and future Pope) who signed the Concordat put it, "the Germans would probably not violate all the articles of the Concordat at the same time", though he said they were certain to end up violating them.
Do you have any supporting references for this? I've been trying to find reference of who suspended him and when but am unable to verify this. I have seen several mentions on the web in forums like this where people say he was.. but am unable to verify this as fact. Do you have a supporting reference I can look up? Even a web one would be helpful if it contains the names of who suspended him and the date.
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Like no other religion in the world, the Roman Catholic Church believes in the depravity of mankind because of Original Sin; that human nature is gravely disordered and easily drawn to evil. So, by arguing that the Catholic Church is evil, even if it were true in it's totality, would only help prove the Catholic belief in Original Sin. So, if you're arguing against the history of the Catholic Church, calling out all its misdeeds and failures, thank you for arguing in favor of Roman Catholicism.
I can report on where the Catholic Church's involvement in the murder of people because these pictures were taken between 1930 y1939, or before the 2nd. World War. Before the Vatican knew the true intentions of Hitler. ¿?¿?¿?
lol...The only thing this video and all these commets show is how ignorat people are of historical facts. The internet is nothing more than a canvas for the uneducated to post what they think is truth...see above!
@Randy02116 while you may be correct that the internet is a place where falsehoods can be published..truths also can be. Are you saying that the catholic church was not complicit is supporting hitler and his reich? What would have happened if the catholic church, en masse, had stood up and said , "no, we will not kill our fellow man, nor obey any orders that would contradict God's laws!"? Do you think that hitler would have had an army at all!!??
@brofun Look at histriy before you speak. 1) The Church did stand up enmass in Holland and Hitler dismated it. There were alos bisops and cardnials in German who did the same and were imprissioned and killed. Pius, a diplomat, worked behind the seasn to bring the Nazis down. You might want to listen to his Chritmas address of 1942 where hs speaks against Hitler. Winston Churchill called him the last free voice in Europe. Noone could have doene more than the church and Pius in WWII
Further, the Jewish state, upon the death of Pius, stated the Jewish people lost one of thier best freinds and the Chief Rabbi of Rome was so moved by the Catholic Church's efforst during WWI that he became a Catholic at the War's end. Are these actions of people who thought the church did nothing?
@redsilkcut1 I don't know! But I do know the chruch did not make a stand as a whole...I don't have figures as to how many were soldiers, nazies, etc..but, I can tell you NONE of Jehovah's witnesses were any of those things.
@Randy02116 My comments were not pointed at the whole oraganiztaion of catholicism...true, some did take a stand..but many, most in fact, did not. Randy..what would have happend if ALL of the catholics in germany had stood up and said, no, we will not kill our brothers and anyone else for that matter? Would hitler have been able to do what he did?
@Randy02116 Jehvoah's witnesses in Gereman, poland, holland, england, usa, canada, etc all took a stand for peace..we refuse to kill others for the political goals of our respective countries! You say no one could have done more?..you need to examine history. hitler got his first real support from the vice chancellor (catholic) von poppen...and it gave him more creidibilty than any other thing combined and led to him gaining power
@redsilkcut1 That's all politics! I've spoken with many catholics who have stated similar thoughts...the nazis would have harmed the catholics in some way or another, etc. My point is the JWs were the ONLY ones who as a whole..world wide, refused to take part in the bloodshed. Revelation, when speaking of babylon the great, whom we believe represents satan's entire world empire of false religionos, is said to be filled with the blood of all those slaughtered upon the earth. Think about it!
We should forbid that shit church to operate any longer. sex with young children now, before helping the worst criminals in human history to get to South America for big stolen money from WW 2. WTF we want with them....
@vliegendehollander55 You have a lot in common with hitler he said he would like to hang the Pope and all the Cardinals in Rome, when you use the word Church you must understand it means all the faithful world wide.
All those chalices melted into gold ingots to save jewish lives during WW2 did nothing, nothing at all... D'You know where the Nazi Gold went to? To the Vatican Catacoms. May it rot there forever. Good-bye.
Jesuist seek mind control, Opus Dei seeks your enslavement and gold.
All powermongers and power-yonkeis.
Only a few of this Church fights for human rights and development. I mean the missioners all over the underworld.They pay with their lives many happiness to the real poor.
And for the purpurate Princes of this Church, and for the sofist, babbling Pope charged with Gold....to Hell with them, they only do harm.
I tell you folks, that. And i consider myself a catholic.
Catholic Churches was considered safe zones by the Jews and other victims of war and Catholic nuns and priest took care of the wounded and the ones seeking refuge. German bombs fell on them anyway.
In Croatia, Catholic Priests would have contests who could slit more Serbian throats with a "Srbosjek" or Serb cutter. Catholic priests were common butchers in the Jasenovac Concentration Camp. With the help of the Vatican, the Nazi puppet state of Croatia intended to massacre or convert all Orthodox Serbs. Why is the Vatican fighting a religious battle it is destined to lose? The forces of God will defeat them for they are not real believers, but believers only in name.
The probability is that Hitler's father was the bastard son of Salomon Mayer Rothschild. The disinformation is the denial which states that this claim is unproven (which is true), but not unprovable since DNA from Hitler & Rothschild descendants could settle the question. But while Hitler's Jewish ancestry is questioned, there's no denying Nazism is derived from Zionism & the real intent of the Holocaust was ethnic cleansing to kill 'mongrel' (mixed race) & not Aryan/AshkeNazi Jews.
To all the haters this video is not against the average catholic. Most catholics do not understand the knights of malta is not a religious order but a MILITARY ORDER. Kennedy was going to expose all of these men within these secret scoieties and he was going to print silver certificates to get us out of a debt bubble but that is to late. Read the Bible the Mother of all hartlots in revelation is Rome I believe. A lot of great catholics I know personnally they are very nice people. great vid!
my thoughts here, the first painting here is of guards taking swords from the man standing there with swords.the second is people pointing to the man in the center.As for hitler ever saying this is where he got that hand jester prove it.As for the rest yes, the vatican was in with hitlers plan.this is evident.
@TenderTrap86 yea, of corse they would right this to cover there asses,how stupid.when you see the pope with hitler and ou see the priests following him and even putting there arms out to praise him this means the devil was there.the vatican also killed millons of christain, this is true history we all american learned in school.its funny how people dont even care how many people they killed.do your research.
@mystic81006 Yeah. You're so right. it's just a huge lie. They're out to decieve everybody and you found them out. Great job. (I hope you know what sarcasm is...)
Enough with the conspiracies. There are conspircay theories that oppose your conspiracy theory. You know that right? That you're in a battle you can't win because there are thousands that are bat shit crazies, like you?
“So he shall return and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant. 31 And forces[j] shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation. 32 Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. daniel 11...........Amen , Praise JESUS
@flameboy1236 and all the popes openly killed milloins of good cristians in the midevil times.So what is your point here? he vatican is responible for mant many lives in its time, even hitlers.
@flameboy1236 the catholic church had there agendas for it all im shure, as for them not being responsible for it? yes they where, they are and always have been A huge influence to teh whole world as the devil does and the church could have stoped it if they wanted.lol lets get real here, hitler is just one man with some jenrals he comanded but the church had more then just that.If the vatican wanted hitler dead he would have been so.But no, they just let millons of jew die.
@flameboy1236 Another thing here you do not see is how a pope can see piles up graves of babies, real true babies, just dead and give no last rights to them, any of them. no prayers, no photo of any of them praying for the souls that died.there was millions of dead children and the priests and pope himeself sulted hitler with smiles and love.But no dame last rights to the dead, ? so I guess they had no responsibility for any of it? If you say no they did not You know where you can go buddy boy.
@flameboy1236 If the soviets hated the catholic church then they would not have pitures shaking hands with smiles, they would have killed them just as they did the jews.they also hated the jews and killed all of them.The priestes would not even be there if this was even true.this just shows how you do not pay attention to the facts. the facts are they where there right along side of each other in it all with praise to hitler.You either are for them or agienst them.
@flameboy1236 Like I said before my brother,If they trully wanted them to look bad they would have killed them and declaired war on the vatican,Like they did to many many countrys,milloins died, dead,in cold blood.go do a search on vidoes of the hollicost. They had no problem killing little childern they would have no problem killing the pope if they hated the pope,You need to open your eyes.After you kill a little child then laph latter, im shure it kills you inside a little.
@flameboy1236 Also,Im trully shure they had the vatican the worlds leader in all of the churches In there pockests due to the fact they all felt like they needed a blessing from god for killing jews.How would you fill if you killed little childern for no reason at all, you also would be at the churches front door.But still,No action from the church at all in the matter.No blessings for the dead, not public blessing any how and all hand shakes.If it was your child you would not be arguing.
@mystic81006 As Hitler accepted he was loosing, his hatred of Jews intensified. At any criticism, regarding his Jewish policy, he would fly into a rage and likely order the speeding up of the killings.
2-@mystic81006 Throughout Europe Catholics had networks of escape routes and safe houses. Jews and others were hidden in convents, other Church buildings and private homes. In 1967 Pinchas Lapide, a Jewish author who had been Israeli Consul in Milan, estimated the Church had saved 700000 - 860000 Jewish lives.
In a polish concentration camp, 6,000 priests along with many more Jews were imprisoned there, only 200 priests remained alive. Poland had a catholic majority too, and many were murdered not because of religious difference, but by resistance and for helping the Jews. the Vatican, like Austria or Spain, declared immunity from war, therefore, they were not harmed. the Lateran treaty was signed to separate the Church from Italian politics in the time of Benito's Fascist regime.
@mystic81006 i cant count the many times Catholics all over the world pray for the souls of the victims of wars past. The pope's recent visit to Jewish cemeteries is reassuring enough.
The Church's main focus after the war was material-aid to the war-torn europe. tell me that isnt action enough. here in the Philippines, many of our historical Churches left by Spain was destroyed by Hitler's ally, Japan. and killed a lot of Catholics.
@flameboy1236 If it was your child you would want all the priests dead after seing them salute hitler with smiles.After knowing they would not bless your child even though it was supost to be a church of god.Knowing and seeing All of them blessing hitler but not hitlers dead.This has nothing to do with war,this has every thing to do with crazed babbie killers.
@mystic81006 The pope visited the memorial of the jews who were killed during WW2. To be honest, I'm a former catholic because of their wrong doctrines.
1. Are you confusing the ancient Romans with the Catholic Chuch? (Roman Salute) 2. Himmler inspired himself in the organization of the Jesuits, certainly not the ideology! He "transferred" no one into his party! 3.Franco was not a Nazi, he was a Catholic patriot. 3.Are you implying Bush was a Catholic too? What is the extent of your insanity? Christians were being massacred by reds in Spain, in Russia. That is the origin of Christian support for 1930's strongmen. I would do exacly the same.
The Roman salute is from the Roman empire genius, not the Roman Catholic church.
Here was Papen's treatment of the Concordat: "Papen maintains that his actions regarding the Church were sincere, and he has asserted, during interrogations, that it was Hitler who sabotaged the Concordat. If von Papen really believed in the very solemn undertakings given by him on behalf of the Reich to the Vatican, I submit it is strange that he, himself a Catholic, should have continued to serve Hitler...
-after all those violations and even after the Papal Encyclical itself. . .I will say that Papen was himself involved in what was virtually, if not technically, a violation of the Concordat. The Tribunal will recollect . . . .[t]he very first item the Pope mentioned was the dissolution of Catholic organisations and... if the Tribunal will look...they will see that in September, 1934 von Papen ordered - and I say "ordered" advisedly - the dissolution of the Union of Catholic Germans...
Hitler lived in Bavaria, which is 90%+ Catholic. It is so Catholic that it is irrelevant. It is like saying that there are Nazis have connections with German people.
Pope Pius XI wrote a papal encyclical called "With Burning Anxiety", in 1937. It condemned Nazi policies as being contrary to the laws of God. Go ahead and look it up if you don't believe it.
Don't forget that Pope Pius XII was praised by many Jews for his efforts to save Jews from death camps. Albert Einstein being one of them. Another, Israel Anton Zoller, was so grateful to Pius XII, he actually converted to Catholicism and even took the Pope's first name, Eugenio, as his baptismal name.
It would not suprise me if the Catholic church had something to do with Nazi sympathisers. The Catholic Church will do anything aslong as theres something in it for them. They are simply hypocrits. A classic example is them expressing to everyone that they should all help make poverty history, when the truth is they could feed a nation by selling a single painting in the vatican. If their was money involved with the Nazis, im sure the Catholics would have been in it for sure.
@dbzman1985 Holocaust and Inquisition one done by Nazis others by Church but both had same fear based tactics fascistic tendencies. Maybe the violence turned them on made them powerful.I wonder in that situation if one did not feel fear would they have nothing to feed on?
7-RIMINI, Italy, Aug. 28, 2001: What does New York Rabbi David Dalin think of Pope Pius XII?
"The Jewish people had no greater friend in the 20th Century," says the historian.
According to Rabbi Dalin, who on August 22 addressed the meeting organized by the Catholic movement Communion and Liberation, "during the Second World War, Pius XII saved more Jewish lives than any other person, including Raoul Wallenberg and Oskar Schindler."
6-[Lapide] was consul general of Israel in Milan and met with many Italian Jews who survived the Holocaust. In his work, Lapide documents how Pius XII worked for the salvation of at least 700,000 from the hands of the Nazis. However, according to another estimate, this figure rises to 860,000.
5- continued Chief Rabbi Isaac Herzog of Israel, Prime Ministers Golda Meir and Moshe Sharett; and, in Italy, people like Raffaele Cantoni, who at the time was president of the Italian Union of Jewish Communities. But many articles published at different times in Boston's Jewish Advocate, The Times of London, and The New York Times can also be perused.
4-Rabbi Dalin: I call today's critics revisionists because they reverse the judgment of history, namely the recognition given to Pius XII by his contemporaries, among whom is Nobel Prize [ winner] Albert Einstein,
3-For nine months, 60 Jews lived with the Jesuits at the Pontifical Gregorian University, and many others were hidden in the basement of the Biblical Institute. Following Pius XII's instructions, risking their own lives, many priests and monks made possible the salvation of hundreds of Jewish lives.
2-In this way, he saved thousands of Italian Jews from deportation. While 80% of European Jews died in those years, 80% of Italian Jews were saved. In Rome alone, 155 convents and monasteries gave refuge to some 5,000 Jews. At any given moment, at least 3,000 were saved in the papal residence of Castel Gandolfo, being freed from deportation to German concentration camps.
Historian and Rabbi David Dalin says: We have much documentation, which shows that in no way did he remain silent. What is more, he spoke out loudly against Hitler and almost everyone saw him as an opponent of the Nazi regime. During the German occupation of Rome, Pius XII secretly instructed the Catholic clergy to use all means to save as many human lives as possible.
Wrong "The Catholic Church was the only one to raise its voice against Hitler's attack on freedom. Until that period the Church had never attracted my attention, but today I express my great admiration and my profound attachment to this Church which alone had the boundless courage to fight for moral and spiritual freedom". --Albert Einstein (himself a Jew), Essays
@pixelspain Last I checked Jesus wasn't a Christian. Whatever Christianity is I don't think Jesus would be happy with how i turned out. Or so the Gnostics believed. They knew more than Cretians Don't blame the Devil for the fault of the death cult. You or your God did it. The Devil isn't your emotional psychological tampon douche or something everytime you mess up. I am praying that your blaspheme will be forgiven mwahaha
The Catholic Church gave you the Bible. If you believe in the Bible then you at least indirectly believe in the Catholic Church who compiled and preserved it. You believe and trust that the Catholic Church did not change anything in the Bible.
@fx2py The Catholic Church didn't give us the Bible! Every single word in the bible, every single one, was written by a Jew - not the catholic church. The catholic church wasn't even around till 300 years after Jesus. The bible itself is so powerful, the Catholic church burnt people who translated it into English. You see, when you read the bible you realize there is no need for human priests to have a relationship with God. You realize that religion based on works is wrong. God bless.
@pixelspain Tell me then, who compiled and preserved the Bible prior to the16th century. Please be specific and don't give a generic cop-out answer like "the early Bible-believers". The Catholic Church originated with the death of Jesus Christ, not 300 years later. The Bible was translated into English long before Wycliff. Many have been deceived by the self-taught version of Christianity and reading the Bible without the teaching authority of the Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ.
@fx2py From about 40 AD, and continuing to about 90 AD, the eye-witnesses to the life of Jesus wrote the Gospels, letters and books that became the Bible's New Testament. These authors quote from the Old Testament, and widely circulate their material so that by about 150 AD, early Christians were referring to the entire set of writings as the "New Covenant." During the 200s AD, the original writings were translated from Greek into Latin. Still another 100 years before the catholic church.
I asked you to be specific, yet you still used general terms like "early Christians" and "were translated" without providing any names of particular individuals, groups of Christians, or places.
Who compiled the Bible (i.e. who set the canon and determined which books do or do not belong in the Bible?) and who preserved it from the 1st through the 16th centuries (i.e. who kept it from disappearing from history or being changed throughout this period?)? Again, please be specific.
Why did the Catholic Church help so many Nazi's escape out of Germany through Italy right after the holocost. I seen on the History channel how the Catholics were helping the nazi's get to South America after the war. The catholic church really gives me the creeps I never want to be involved with it ever again. Thanks for showing these videos helps wake a few people up. But I actually think most christian churces are about as bad.
arlieberry 4 weeks ago
...I'm sorry, what?
What's that have to do with my question?
FrankLightheart 2 months ago
Not that I'm in any way defending the newest pope, but so what if he was in Hitler Youth as a child? Weren't all children at that time forced to be in Hitler Youth? I mean, I don't think I can really blame him if he was in a Nazi organization when he was still just a young impressionable child.
Just asking because I honestly don't know.
FrankLightheart 3 months ago
@FrankLightheart I know the communist didn't side with the Catholics, the bolsheviks aka xews murdered millions of Chrisitans and shot priest in the street, in cold blood. Hitler saw them coming for Germany so I guess he figured he could defend the German Christians or allow the xewish bolsheviks to murder them. The soviet union moved to xsrael.
TheAmazingamerica 2 months ago
Nazi's appropriated symbols used for other purposes, such as the swastika. At Heydrich's funeral a bishop's garment celebrates the fiend; such does not render the Church evil. If you look carefully, you will find Herbert Hoover condemning Nazi treatment of Jews & Catholic priests. Blame rests with Germany as a country, both its govt & its people, as well as Europe in general, but only during that time. Muslims of the era are also blameworthy. No one born after 1945 can possibly be blamed.
P1B1U1H1 4 months ago
Another heresy story. Better to watch otto il cielo di Roma (Under the Roman Sky) con Alessandra Mastronardi to make everything clear.
3DIFIER 4 months ago
I'm a religious Jew from Israel.Today I read a long article about Cardinal Graf Von Galen who in 1940 publically denounced the Nazis where ever he went & Gestapo were plannng to kill him when they won the war.Also many Catholics and Protestants hid Jews at the danger of their lives!You are stating generalities.Jews were killed by the Catholic Church for 2 thous.years but it wwas the misuse of Papal power.There were many Catholic-Protestant wars & killings too.
RasMajnouni 4 months ago
Blaming religion for what Hitler did, is like blaming vegetarianism and ecologism
xaviqaz 4 months ago
More deception by anticatholics:
At 1:48 The speech is known as "Proclamation to the German Nation, February 1, 1933". Easily verified. Why did someone add "Catholic" to the title here?
And if a real Catholic is shown w/Hitler, note the date & recall Nazis didn't even invade Poland until 1939!
The "bishop" shaking hands w/Hitler was Reich Bishop Ludwig Muller of the Deutsche Evangelische Kirche (German Evangelical Church), and involved with Nazism practically since its inception.
182RG 4 months ago
@182RG You can also find a lot of photos of bishops or priests shaking hands with communist leaders. In fact, Hitler was overwhelmingly popular until 1940 and there was never a great popular insurrection against his policies (not even when racial laws were passed, at the beginning of his dictatorship).
xaviqaz 4 months ago
@xaviqaz
"Hitler was overwhelmingly popular"
Indeed. He had taken credit for Germany's economic turn-around from the depths of choking depression, put millions back to work, regained land without a single shot being fired, and turned Gemany into one of the most respected and feared nations on earth. Modern German historians state that had Hitler died in 1938, he undoubtedly would have gone down in German history as the greatest statesmen of all time!
182RG 4 months ago
@182RG Racial laws were passed in 1935, within that period. So you cannot point finger at the catholic church without doing the same with tens of millions of germans.
xaviqaz 4 months ago
Another thing, the Jesuits aren't the "military order of the Vatican" you ignoramus.
BishopHatto 4 months ago
Whoever made this video needs to read history books and stop listening to their backwoods Baptist fundy church. Not one fact in the whole video.
BishopHatto 4 months ago
Not Surprising. Hitler was Austrian NOT German and especially not Upper Prussian. A brief read of 19th history shows a struggle between northern protestant germans and southern Catholic Imperial Austrians.
vesperus1981 4 months ago
@vesperus1981 The nazi party got its worse electoral results in predominantly catholic areas
xaviqaz 4 months ago
The Nazis were not Catholic, they used this as a cover up. It was well known that they were involved in the occult.
Please do your research before you produce any videos.
wwwdot666BlackSundotcom ->information about Hitler.
GahdeMalprigi1488x 5 months ago
New York Trotskys and their Reds like to blame the Vatican...yet cheer the Pope's 3rd encyclical of 2010, in support of the new world financial order. WHY'S THAT?
Hitler attempted to do for Germany what Andrew Jackson did for America, KILL THE CENTRAL BANKS.
westernciviliznation 5 months ago
I wouldnt doubt that some catholics and clergy supported hitler, but only because he was anti-commie. Records show that excomunication was the penalty for joining the nazi party. Records also show that hitler wanted to kidnap pius xii and since that did not go through, assasinate him.
WorldBibleUnion454 5 months ago
THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FALSEHOODS!
0:27 The Roman pagan salute pre dates the Catholic Church.
0:50 Prove it. Present exact quote.
1:18 Spain was neutral in WWII.
1:45 Hitler shaking hands with PROTESTANT bishop Muller (DC).
No proof presented they mean Catholicism when they say Christianity.
2:29 Nazi salute was mandatory. Proves nothing.
2:44 Elite at Vatican? Prove it.
3:50 President Bush was honored & supported by ANTI-CATHOLIC BOB JONES University, as was ANTI-CATHOLIC activist Ian Paisley.
jeffery234567 5 months ago
@jeffery234567
you support pedophilia as well?
pboisei 5 months ago
@pboisei Don't project.
As long as YOU brought it up, check out this Website: survivorsforjusticedotorg
You might recognize some of the perps. as kindred spirits.
jeffery234567 5 months ago
@jeffery234567 Now falsify this, the roman catholic church is the whore riding on the dragon described in Revelation.
gladass17 4 months ago
@gladass17 Falsify? What have I falsified? Prove your claim. How is the Church what u claim it is.
BTW, One of the greatest perpetrators of modern Papist/Romanist/Wafer eater whatever, Ralph Woodrow has rebuked his book claiming the Vatican is pagan, & wrote his own rebuttal entitled The Babylon Connection? I recommend u read it.
jeffery234567 4 months ago
Pure.... nothing!....From you.
callesvidessalvador 5 months ago
I am ashamed I was baptised into the catholic faith,I have been an atheist for 30 years.
mywheelchairone69 6 months ago
@mywheelchairone69 --Why allow bad people to chase you out of the church? What about the good people you never considered?
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PS this vid is bullsh**.
WorldBibleUnion454 6 months ago
@WorldBibleUnion454 From what I remember from Bible teaching,God gave us choice and atheism and Darwinism are what I subscribe to. While I am aware there are very many good and pious members of the Catholic church,there is also an element that will manipulate members for their own selfish agenda. With the greatest of respect,a creed doesn't have to be adhered to as long as there is faith in ones own applications of life. The Catholic church revels in indoctrination and spreading fear.
mywheelchairone69 6 months ago
@WorldBibleUnion454 Thank you for your interesting thoughts on my comment.
mywheelchairone69 6 months ago
FUK ALL EUROCENTRIC TERMS....
99cacahuate 6 months ago
catholic church invented antisemitism and hated soviet union...the connection is not so far ;))
05giacomo 7 months ago
@05giacomo we invented anti antisemitism? how ? and yes we hated the soviet union because it was communist country that oppressed its people.Hitler killed millions but staling killed more so when you write a comment please think about before you spill all you hatred you left idiot
JAEGERSTER 7 months ago
@JAEGERSTER you know judenstrafe? in the middle ages jews were executed in a more cruel way...they were put into getthos ect ect...these are historical facts
05giacomo 7 months ago
@05giacomo what does that have to do with the topic we were talking about.you can take the murders from jugendstrafe and from Hitler and you would still not come close to the murders that happen under Stalin in the gulags
JAEGERSTER 7 months ago
@05giacomo
The Romans were anti-Semitic before Christianity even began.
And yes the Catholic Church hated the Soviet Union, especially after they joined Hitler in invading Poland, one of the most devoutly Catholic countries in the world.
afeeder 7 months ago
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Born2Flesh 7 months ago
@luyben12 how does it feel to be really stupid, you ignoramus ? The Nazis and the Communists were the same "Big Party" which is what "Bolshevik" means in Russian, the Big Party . It was Anti Catholic from the start and that is why 80% of the Russian Soviet Army ,the "Bund" were made up of Russian Jews who wanted and did so , murder twenty million Russians in the 1920s, by dragging them out of their homes and shooting them in the head in the dark of night, trucked to unmarked graves.
CarmineFragione 7 months ago
Hitler was himself an Askanazi Jew of Berber Morocco, check the Jerusalem Post last august, So he killed six million Jews because he was betrayed by the Jewish Bankers who in return for aide to Israel, was supposed to finance the Third Reicht. And , besides six million Jews Hitler killed, Hitler also killed FIVE MILLION Polish Catholics, and so Hitler was not Catholic or Jewish, and all you idiots are totally ignoramuses. Nazis and Communists were "Socialist Progressives' AntiChrist
CarmineFragione 7 months ago
Hitler supported Israel in the Haava Agreement, to build up Israel, but Hitler wanted the Jewish Bankers to finance his campaign to conquer the world, and he would be messiah. When the Jews bailed on Hitler, Jewish Nazis formed a counter organization called 'The Black Front" where former Nazi Jews became allied with Bolshevik Commie Jews of Russia. One worse than the other, and then the Jews blamed the Catholic Church when the whole Shenanigans was exposed and caused 20 million deaths.
CarmineFragione 7 months ago
the real History connection was that the Pope was against the Nazis in 1932 and German Catholics voted 75% AGAINST Hitler, but the Jews considered Hitler a Labor Socialist Progressive, and Hitler supported the development of Israel in exchange for the Rothchilds Financial arrangement to help Hitler build a Military Comples. Hitler wanted the Jews to help make him their Messiah , and when they bailed on him, Hitler turned to killing all the Jews. Jews were both Commies and Nazis at one time
CarmineFragione 7 months ago
If you want to say Hitler had connections in the Vatican, it is like saying Hitler and the Pope, both lived in Europe, and had obviously contacts. But , the Jews had much more contact with Hitler in the late 1920s. The Rothchilds , the Intellectual Jews that nominated Hitler for the Nobel Prize, ( Gertrude Stein) And many of the early leaders of Israel happened to be loyal Nazis. The Jews broke off relations with Hitler, as Hitler wanted the Rothchilds to give him more money for WARS.
CarmineFragione 7 months ago
@TomSawyerSpongeRay Look, Pope Pious XII made a radio speech in Paris, before the War to denounce Adolf Hitler , and it is history , if you care to check on it. The Parisians know what the Pope said to condemn the actions of Hitler, who was preparing to bring the world to war and ruin. So , you have a small mind, but a good brain, but it is empty of facts. Why don't you study a little more on the subject, You might be embarrassed so ignorant you once were.
CarmineFragione 7 months ago
Yet Pope Benedict XVI has the courage to tell Queen Elizabeth during the state visit that they both are against Nazism..
MrEriesal 8 months ago
Anyone who thinks that the vatican was not complicit in many of the Nazi party moves is severely deluded. Only when Germany looked like losing did Hitlers wee pet pope work out where he should have had his loyalties.
MrBear1873 8 months ago
In 1942 HItler found out that Pope Pious XII and German Catholics , were organized to assassinate Hitler, and that an attempt by the Nazis was made on the Pope. The Pope while Cardinal in 1932 advised the Holy See and the Papacy declared Hitler as a murderer in 1932 and 75 % of the German Catholics voted against the Nazi Party, and later, organized every Catholic Bishop in the world to give papers to German Jews in a world wide attempt to escape them from the Holocaust. All TRUTH !!!
CarmineFragione 8 months ago
@CarmineFragione With what was shown how could expect the viewers to believe your claims.
MrEriesal 8 months ago
@MrEriesal The Jerusalem Post last August published clear historical proofs that Pope Pious XII was innocent and made many heroic acts to save the Jews, The facts are the facts, and propaganda has always an agenda. When you find out what the agenda is, you find out lies. In 1932 The Catholics of Germany voted 75% against the Nazi Party, but the Jews voted for the Socialist Workers Party and was had, Gertrude Stein nominated Hitler for the Nobel Prize, just like they voted for Obama
CarmineFragione 8 months ago
The Pope told the German Catholics in 1932 to vote against Adolf Hitler, in view of his Mein Kampf vision of hell. But the Jews . like Gertrude Stein, being Progressive Socialist and thinking Hitler wanted to help Israel , nominated Hitler for the Nobel Peace Prize. When the Jews found Hitler out and cut off the funds from the Banks, then Hitler turned to revenge murder of the Jews, for he presumed to own the world if he showed favor to Israel. All the early Israeli leaders were Nazis also.
CarmineFragione 8 months ago
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In all this game, the devil is the victim, is the scapegoat, will be acused of everything cause the GOD don’t want any rivals*. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form,following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil cause he is just a temporary puppet.
diptdipt 8 months ago
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After having so many pedophiles exposed, why would you allow your child to be a part of the Catholic Church? Do you really think there are no more pedophiles in the church? Do you realize how long children have been raped and molested by these freaks? When it came to killing Jews, Hitler found a good friend in the Catholic Church. When Hitler wanted to rule the planet, he stepped on the toes of the Catholic Church. Croatians are Catholics, but they treated Jews even worst than the Nazi.
Born2Flesh 8 months ago
its so ridiculous even jesus meet satan and it is so simply arrogant.
craventref 8 months ago
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Amen!! Tell it!! Tell it!! Them roman catholics are nuthin but a pernicious breed of satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! THATS ALL they are, .. just satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! So PRAISE YOU brother for speaking the truth about those devils!!
billyboy222ify 9 months ago
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Amen!! Tell it!! Tell it!! Them roman catholics are nuthing but pernicious breed of satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! THATS ALL they are, .. just satanic kike-killing nazi pedophile child-fuckers!! So PRAISE YOU brother for speaking the truth about those devils!!
billyboy222ify 9 months ago
Jozef Tiso - SLOVAKIA! very, very sad story!!!
2naTTerass 9 months ago
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Just remember, .. it was FUNDIE "christians" who enslaved the niggers, burned witches, stole land from indians, and are today persecuting the homo's, .. not catholics.
voluminoushead888 9 months ago
@voluminoushead888
and where came your "FUNDIE christians" from? From the roman catholic Europe.
When you are your whole life under Brainwash-System, then you can not leave it behind you in one second. That needs time. The roman catholic Church did Inquisitation, Progroms and Genocides long time before the Reformation. It was and is still a fix part of the rcc-system: Kill all what is diffrent from you and not want to obey.
jeshualivesforever 8 months ago
@voluminoushead888
And the idea of an organisation(rc Church) and a supreme Ruler(roman Pope) what rules the whole world alone, is mental-illness itself.
jeshualivesforever 8 months ago
@jeshualivesforever
to want to reign is sick in anyway.
jeshualivesforever 8 months ago
Don't need much more proof then the Croatian Catholic church, converting pillaging and raping all that was Serb during world war 2.
All under the guidance of their facist nazi priests.
SCUM.
Dragan22 9 months ago
Fact not theory. Study the life history of Hitler and his family. Germany was the "holy roman empire" not long ago. Very few catholics if any were persecuted compared to the millions of Jews murdered. They were the handful that felt guilty and stood up for the Jews. Where do you think all the gold and money went that was stolen from the Jews? Switzerland to Rome. Ratline.The current pope was a nazi youth. You really need to study history to know the truth behind it. Foxes book of Martyrs 4 truth
journeyquest1 9 months ago
yawn - more happy-clappy, fundamentalist idiot conspiracy theories.
IaintTheHerb 9 months ago
You people are too deeply transformed by the propaganda you've been subjected to. You love the satanist Talmudists and wage wars for them, but hate the True Church, as She is the only Church that stood in the way of the jews evil machinations. Unfortunately, the Church of today is no longer the pure Church of the previous 19 centuries, and She is also submitting Herself to their evil designs.
thegreatfearblog 9 months ago
@dbzman1985 lol people say hitler was catholic ,so i say stalin, mao are atheist. did i say they are killing in name of atheism ? NO
albokk 10 months ago
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hitler was christian so???? Stalin militant atheist 40 million killed , mao atheis 65 million killed, pol pot atheist killed 2.5 million people or 25% of cambodia in 3 years , kim jong ill 3million killed and the list goes on and on
albokk 10 months ago
HIAL HITLER!!!!!
spyroxxm 10 months ago
This was the only verifiable piece on his suspension that I could find:
"Schachleitner, who had been a National Socialist since 1926, was suspended for publishing a euphoric article on Hitler’s rise to power in Völkischer Beobachter in February 1933. After Hitler had him reinstated, Schachleitner served the regime as Nazi Germany’s model Catholic until his death in 1937."
So it's hard to know what kind of suspenseion we're talking about. It seems by this that he wasn't excommunicated.
PaleHearse 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
Sorry, it should be Schachleiter (without the n).
My reference was Oded Heilbronner's review (published of Kevin Spicer's "Hitler's Priests: Catholic Clergy and National Socialism"
He was not excommunicated, that would mean he couldn't even *receive* communion, much less offer it. That would have only happened if he was openly defying the church, he did follow their direct orders, even though he broke their rules.
afeeder 10 months ago
@PaleHearse
If your library has a proquest account or something similar, you can look at the old newspaper articles. From what I can piece together, Schaleiter lost his mass celebrating privileges after his first incident with the church, though he seems to have been reinstated as a priest due to Nazi protests (though, as his obituary in the NYT states, his right to officiate mass was never returned. Then one year later he got in more trouble for writing "that Nazis adhered staunchly to
afeeder 10 months ago
@PaleHearse
continued
the principles of Christianity". By writing this, the Archbishop officials said he was "setting himself against the church authorities as well as the entire German hierarchy."
An official said, "His article means open insurrection against a church order and violates the rule prohibiting a member of the clergy from printing articles without the approval of the regional bishop" to quote the "Washington Post" (who were in turn quoting the "Bavarian Courier")
afeeder 10 months ago
@afeeder
I do see quite a bit of posturing on the part of catholics to try and distance themselves from what eventually happened. Because of my personal research, though, I will give pope Pius a passing grade for what he said in Lourdes in a rather well publicized speech criticizing the Nazi's. I'll not go so far as exonerate him, however, because it does appear that later on he made some deals that he would later come to regret. Back to that quote about dining with the devil.
PaleHearse 10 months ago
@afeeder
And just a follow up to your continuation.. after reading your post again, I am again surprised that the catholic church didn't excommunicate for the offense. That might have limited Hitler's ability to simply re-enstate him. Seems like that's what happened here anyway.
PaleHearse 10 months ago
@PaleHearse
There was a strong political motive. According to Lewy's "The Catholic Church and Nazi Germany", "In a talk with Vicar-General Buchwieser of the Archdiocese of Munich, Seidler had demanded that the Archbishop issue an order prohibiting the political activity of the clergy, and he had asked for the rehabilitation of Abbot Schachleiter as a price for stopping further arrests of priests. . . .Faulhaber, anxious not to jeopardize the negations for the Concordat in Rome,
afeeder 10 months ago
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retreated on both issues [the other issue (in the . . . .) was that the outspoken anti-Nazi, Dr. Emil Muhler, had remained the leader of Catholic Action] (page 101).
afeeder 10 months ago
@afeeder
I get that, but this conversation is now basically back to where it started from in the beginning. That being that the church has no business in either politics or science since it's simply not built to deal with either of them. Every time it tries to do so.. and I do mean EVERY time.. the cracks show big time. Politics are the stuff of man.. and are not divine. Science is divine but out of the full grasp of any man's church. Where religion is invoked in either one, it's folly.
PaleHearse 10 months ago
@PaleHearse
I generally agree, my point is that this is not a good example, given that the Church's political parties (particularly the Center Party) were the RIVALS of the Nazi Party, which is again, why Hitler forced the Center Party to dissolve before he would sign the Concordat, and why he forced the Church to stay out of politics in the Concordat (see article 32). What happened after the church lost its political power is immaterial for this matter
afeeder 10 months ago
@afeeder
Well I feel it's a decent example because the one question your not asking is: "What if they didn't?".
My thought is that they "did" because they were seeking to remain in political power and that had nothing to do with what was godly or holy. But we do mostly agree.. the main point is that when we see things like this unfold.. not to rush to one side or the other but instead to examine motives and follow the money trail.
PaleHearse 10 months ago
@PaleHearse
"My thought is that they "did" because they were seeking to remain in political power and that had nothing to do with what was godly or holy."
Which group are you talking about?
If you mean the Catholics, that is wrong; they literally gave up their political power in Germany, their motive being the legal protections for their church activities in the concordat. They wanted to be able to minister to their flock, there was spiritual intentions
afeeder 10 months ago
@afeeder
I have to disagree.. but I do see your point. What your not doing is making a distinction between the organized church and the followers. It's hard to say what was going through the pope's mind when he signs a document basically saying that the NAZI regime is inline with catholic doctrine. Yes, if you look at it as "leaving the political arena" what you say is true.. but your not examining the alternative. If they had not signed Hitler would have had far less support.
PaleHearse 10 months ago
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robin4good 11 months ago
Yup.. great quote.. "If your going to dine with the devil you had better have a long spoon".
PaleHearse 11 months ago
Ludwig Muller was censured or someone else?
PaleHearse 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
The Catholic Abbott Schachleitner, standing left of the man shaking hands with Hitler was suspended by his bishop, and sent to a small village where he died, stripped of his Ecclesiastical authority.
There was no one to suspend Ludwig Muller (the man shaking hands with Hitler), Protestants didn''t have any foreign authorities like the Vatican, all their leader were under the German Government. Those who disobeyed, like Niemöller and F. Weißler were sent to concentration camps
afeeder 11 months ago
The New World Catholic Order will not prevail until the last Eastern Christian liturgy stops...and that my friends will be never. Rome never symbolized Catholicism until 1054, before that it was just Christianity, in which Constantine the Great converted the Romans to Christianity and moved his capital to Constantinople instead of Rome. Constantinople later became Orthodox because it kept it's original traditions and faith, while the Catholics separated in 1054 to form their own Church.
Neso1991 11 months ago
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Neso1991 11 months ago
Considering that Franco let the Jews escape into Spain it is ironic that the Spanish fascists are in here so much. The maker is probably hoping we don't know that.
afeeder 11 months ago
Looks like we have 143 uncomfortable catholics. Now while I'm not a fan of the conspiracy nonsense, I am a proponent of vigilance. When the catholic church or any other entity asks us to set aside our morality it's a problem. People have an innate understanding of right and wrong based on how we would want to be treated. This is abused by the church.
Time and time again, when religion involves it's self in politics, it ends badly and becomes part of an immoral machine.. as it did in the 30's.
PaleHearse 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
"Time and time again, when religion involves it's self in politics, it ends badly..."
Actually the Nazis main political rival was the Catholic Center Party, so his terms for the Concordat was that priests had to stay out of politics and dissolve the Center Party (in return he said he would let them worship and so on as they pleased, though he violated this).
And the priest at 1:55 (left of Protestant Bishop Muller who was shaking hands with Hitler) was suspended in Feb. 1933
afeeder 11 months ago
@afeeder
suspended for what.. do you know?
I doubt it was for shaking hands with Hitler. I suppose it's time for me to read the agreement in full to see what it was the catholics got out of the agreement and how it was worded. It's going to be pretty hard to get away from the fact that the catholics looked at Hitler and his Nazi platform and could think in any moral way that it was a "win win". That is what still has us all gobsmacked 70 years later.
PaleHearse 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
He was suspended for publicly supporting Nazism. He is standing next to the person shaking Hitler's hand, the one shaking Hitler's hand was Ludwig Muller, the national bishop of the Evangelicals (Protestants)
afeeder 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
'It's going to be pretty hard to get away from the fact that the catholics looked at Hitler and his Nazi platform and could think in any moral way that it was a "win win".'
This was not a win-win, it was a last resort. Look at the context. Hitler had deliberately put restrictions on church funds, Catholic groups, etc. to force their hand. They were afraid of another Kulturkampf, but thought with the concordat,
afeeder 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
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"we shall have the chance of proceeding more vigorously against numerous anti-Catholic actions.", or at least, as the cardinal (and future Pope) who signed the Concordat put it, "the Germans would probably not violate all the articles of the Concordat at the same time", though he said they were certain to end up violating them.
afeeder 11 months ago
@PaleHearse
"suspended for what.. do you know?"
sorry, I missed that the first time. Suspended for publicly supporting Nazism.
afeeder 11 months ago
@afeeder
Do you have any supporting references for this? I've been trying to find reference of who suspended him and when but am unable to verify this. I have seen several mentions on the web in forums like this where people say he was.. but am unable to verify this as fact. Do you have a supporting reference I can look up? Even a web one would be helpful if it contains the names of who suspended him and the date.
Thanks.
PaleHearse 11 months ago
Now for anyone that wants the truth about the Pope and the catholic church. Go to pave the way foundation compiled By a Jews and Protestants defending the Church and The Holy Father with facts and documents for all to see Ptwf dot org / downloads /pope%pius _? documents dot ptf
martlut 11 months ago
Like no other religion in the world, the Roman Catholic Church believes in the depravity of mankind because of Original Sin; that human nature is gravely disordered and easily drawn to evil. So, by arguing that the Catholic Church is evil, even if it were true in it's totality, would only help prove the Catholic belief in Original Sin. So, if you're arguing against the history of the Catholic Church, calling out all its misdeeds and failures, thank you for arguing in favor of Roman Catholicism.
TenderTrap86 11 months ago
The Chief Rabbi of Rome converted to our church and took the Popes name as a baptismal name. Case closed.
WayOfTheMaster454 11 months ago
Please read M. Phayer's brilliant & troubling book THE CATHOLIC CHURCH & THE HOLOCAUST, 1930-1965.
tjb70 11 months ago
The catholic church sanctioned the enslavement of African People. The catholic church is and has always been evil. I have no use for it. Hotep.
josephortizgarcia 1 year ago
@josephortizgarcia --The egyptians were not blacks. hotep.
WayOfTheMaster454 11 months ago
@WayOfTheMaster454 YOU are not rational. HOTEP.
josephortizgarcia 11 months ago
thanks for the truth -
Catholic you have BLOOD in your hand
catholic were also the ones who help nazi escape germany
lakayna 1 year ago
I can report on where the Catholic Church's involvement in the murder of people because these pictures were taken between 1930 y1939, or before the 2nd. World War. Before the Vatican knew the true intentions of Hitler. ¿?¿?¿?
mryacc60 1 year ago
lol...The only thing this video and all these commets show is how ignorat people are of historical facts. The internet is nothing more than a canvas for the uneducated to post what they think is truth...see above!
Randy02116 1 year ago
@Randy02116 while you may be correct that the internet is a place where falsehoods can be published..truths also can be. Are you saying that the catholic church was not complicit is supporting hitler and his reich? What would have happened if the catholic church, en masse, had stood up and said , "no, we will not kill our fellow man, nor obey any orders that would contradict God's laws!"? Do you think that hitler would have had an army at all!!??
brofun 1 year ago
@brofun Look at histriy before you speak. 1) The Church did stand up enmass in Holland and Hitler dismated it. There were alos bisops and cardnials in German who did the same and were imprissioned and killed. Pius, a diplomat, worked behind the seasn to bring the Nazis down. You might want to listen to his Chritmas address of 1942 where hs speaks against Hitler. Winston Churchill called him the last free voice in Europe. Noone could have doene more than the church and Pius in WWII
Randy02116 1 year ago
Further, the Jewish state, upon the death of Pius, stated the Jewish people lost one of thier best freinds and the Chief Rabbi of Rome was so moved by the Catholic Church's efforst during WWI that he became a Catholic at the War's end. Are these actions of people who thought the church did nothing?
Randy02116 1 year ago
@Randy02116 as I stated, the chruch as a whole, did not stand up for what christ stood for. how many german soldeiers were catholic?
brofun 1 year ago
@brofun HOW MANY WERE NAZIS.
redsilkcut1 1 year ago
@redsilkcut1 I don't know! But I do know the chruch did not make a stand as a whole...I don't have figures as to how many were soldiers, nazies, etc..but, I can tell you NONE of Jehovah's witnesses were any of those things.
brofun 1 year ago
@Randy02116 My comments were not pointed at the whole oraganiztaion of catholicism...true, some did take a stand..but many, most in fact, did not. Randy..what would have happend if ALL of the catholics in germany had stood up and said, no, we will not kill our brothers and anyone else for that matter? Would hitler have been able to do what he did?
brofun 1 year ago
@Randy02116 Jehvoah's witnesses in Gereman, poland, holland, england, usa, canada, etc all took a stand for peace..we refuse to kill others for the political goals of our respective countries! You say no one could have done more?..you need to examine history. hitler got his first real support from the vice chancellor (catholic) von poppen...and it gave him more creidibilty than any other thing combined and led to him gaining power
brofun 1 year ago
@brofun the answer is yes because the majority of the germans were not catholic,and even if that were not so,
if the pope had made that statement after june 1941 and caused mass desertion of catholic soldiers from the army
then Stalin might have taken all of europe because there would be no one able to stop him.
redsilkcut1 1 year ago
@redsilkcut1 That's all politics! I've spoken with many catholics who have stated similar thoughts...the nazis would have harmed the catholics in some way or another, etc. My point is the JWs were the ONLY ones who as a whole..world wide, refused to take part in the bloodshed. Revelation, when speaking of babylon the great, whom we believe represents satan's entire world empire of false religionos, is said to be filled with the blood of all those slaughtered upon the earth. Think about it!
brofun 1 year ago
We should forbid that shit church to operate any longer. sex with young children now, before helping the worst criminals in human history to get to South America for big stolen money from WW 2. WTF we want with them....
vliegendehollander55 1 year ago
@vliegendehollander55 You have a lot in common with hitler he said he would like to hang the Pope and all the Cardinals in Rome, when you use the word Church you must understand it means all the faithful world wide.
redsilkcut1 1 year ago
All those chalices melted into gold ingots to save jewish lives during WW2 did nothing, nothing at all... D'You know where the Nazi Gold went to? To the Vatican Catacoms. May it rot there forever. Good-bye.
FalsoProfetaenAccion 1 year ago
Jesuist seek mind control, Opus Dei seeks your enslavement and gold.
All powermongers and power-yonkeis.
Only a few of this Church fights for human rights and development. I mean the missioners all over the underworld.They pay with their lives many happiness to the real poor.
And for the purpurate Princes of this Church, and for the sofist, babbling Pope charged with Gold....to Hell with them, they only do harm.
I tell you folks, that. And i consider myself a catholic.
Alas,Hitler was catholic!
FalsoProfetaenAccion 1 year ago
Catholic Churches was considered safe zones by the Jews and other victims of war and Catholic nuns and priest took care of the wounded and the ones seeking refuge. German bombs fell on them anyway.
xong111 1 year ago
In Croatia, Catholic Priests would have contests who could slit more Serbian throats with a "Srbosjek" or Serb cutter. Catholic priests were common butchers in the Jasenovac Concentration Camp. With the help of the Vatican, the Nazi puppet state of Croatia intended to massacre or convert all Orthodox Serbs. Why is the Vatican fighting a religious battle it is destined to lose? The forces of God will defeat them for they are not real believers, but believers only in name.
Neso1991 1 year ago
The probability is that Hitler's father was the bastard son of Salomon Mayer Rothschild. The disinformation is the denial which states that this claim is unproven (which is true), but not unprovable since DNA from Hitler & Rothschild descendants could settle the question. But while Hitler's Jewish ancestry is questioned, there's no denying Nazism is derived from Zionism & the real intent of the Holocaust was ethnic cleansing to kill 'mongrel' (mixed race) & not Aryan/AshkeNazi Jews.
bondurango 1 year ago
To all the haters this video is not against the average catholic. Most catholics do not understand the knights of malta is not a religious order but a MILITARY ORDER. Kennedy was going to expose all of these men within these secret scoieties and he was going to print silver certificates to get us out of a debt bubble but that is to late. Read the Bible the Mother of all hartlots in revelation is Rome I believe. A lot of great catholics I know personnally they are very nice people. great vid!
ALPHAandOMEGA44 1 year ago
my thoughts here, the first painting here is of guards taking swords from the man standing there with swords.the second is people pointing to the man in the center.As for hitler ever saying this is where he got that hand jester prove it.As for the rest yes, the vatican was in with hitlers plan.this is evident.
mystic81006 1 year ago
Read the papal encyclical called"With Burning Anxiety", which condemned Nazi policies, in 1937, before any other world power. I dare you.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86 yea, of corse they would right this to cover there asses,how stupid.when you see the pope with hitler and ou see the priests following him and even putting there arms out to praise him this means the devil was there.the vatican also killed millons of christain, this is true history we all american learned in school.its funny how people dont even care how many people they killed.do your research.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006 Yeah. You're so right. it's just a huge lie. They're out to decieve everybody and you found them out. Great job. (I hope you know what sarcasm is...)
Enough with the conspiracies. There are conspircay theories that oppose your conspiracy theory. You know that right? That you're in a battle you can't win because there are thousands that are bat shit crazies, like you?
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
“So he shall return and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant. 31 And forces[j] shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation. 32 Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. daniel 11...........Amen , Praise JESUS
kicktroolinface 1 year ago
Uhhh... I'm not really good at history, but the pope had secretely saved many jewish lives.
flameboy1236 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 and all the popes openly killed milloins of good cristians in the midevil times.So what is your point here? he vatican is responible for mant many lives in its time, even hitlers.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006
Protestants killed people too and the catholic church was not responsible for Hitler's actions towards other people.
flameboy1236 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 the catholic church had there agendas for it all im shure, as for them not being responsible for it? yes they where, they are and always have been A huge influence to teh whole world as the devil does and the church could have stoped it if they wanted.lol lets get real here, hitler is just one man with some jenrals he comanded but the church had more then just that.If the vatican wanted hitler dead he would have been so.But no, they just let millons of jew die.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 Another thing here you do not see is how a pope can see piles up graves of babies, real true babies, just dead and give no last rights to them, any of them. no prayers, no photo of any of them praying for the souls that died.there was millions of dead children and the priests and pope himeself sulted hitler with smiles and love.But no dame last rights to the dead, ? so I guess they had no responsibility for any of it? If you say no they did not You know where you can go buddy boy.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006 Yeah, you probably got brainwashed by Russian propaganda. The Soviet Russians hated the Catholic Church back then.
flameboy1236 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 If the soviets hated the catholic church then they would not have pitures shaking hands with smiles, they would have killed them just as they did the jews.they also hated the jews and killed all of them.The priestes would not even be there if this was even true.this just shows how you do not pay attention to the facts. the facts are they where there right along side of each other in it all with praise to hitler.You either are for them or agienst them.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006 I forgot to mention that they wanted to make the Catholic Church look bad.
flameboy1236 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 Like I said before my brother,If they trully wanted them to look bad they would have killed them and declaired war on the vatican,Like they did to many many countrys,milloins died, dead,in cold blood.go do a search on vidoes of the hollicost. They had no problem killing little childern they would have no problem killing the pope if they hated the pope,You need to open your eyes.After you kill a little child then laph latter, im shure it kills you inside a little.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 Also,Im trully shure they had the vatican the worlds leader in all of the churches In there pockests due to the fact they all felt like they needed a blessing from god for killing jews.How would you fill if you killed little childern for no reason at all, you also would be at the churches front door.But still,No action from the church at all in the matter.No blessings for the dead, not public blessing any how and all hand shakes.If it was your child you would not be arguing.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006 As Hitler accepted he was loosing, his hatred of Jews intensified. At any criticism, regarding his Jewish policy, he would fly into a rage and likely order the speeding up of the killings.
Gatta9 1 year ago
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2-@mystic81006 Throughout Europe Catholics had networks of escape routes and safe houses. Jews and others were hidden in convents, other Church buildings and private homes. In 1967 Pinchas Lapide, a Jewish author who had been Israeli Consul in Milan, estimated the Church had saved 700000 - 860000 Jewish lives.
Gatta9 1 year ago
In a polish concentration camp, 6,000 priests along with many more Jews were imprisoned there, only 200 priests remained alive. Poland had a catholic majority too, and many were murdered not because of religious difference, but by resistance and for helping the Jews. the Vatican, like Austria or Spain, declared immunity from war, therefore, they were not harmed. the Lateran treaty was signed to separate the Church from Italian politics in the time of Benito's Fascist regime.
xong111 1 year ago
@mystic81006 i cant count the many times Catholics all over the world pray for the souls of the victims of wars past. The pope's recent visit to Jewish cemeteries is reassuring enough.
The Church's main focus after the war was material-aid to the war-torn europe. tell me that isnt action enough. here in the Philippines, many of our historical Churches left by Spain was destroyed by Hitler's ally, Japan. and killed a lot of Catholics.
xong111 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 If it was your child you would want all the priests dead after seing them salute hitler with smiles.After knowing they would not bless your child even though it was supost to be a church of god.Knowing and seeing All of them blessing hitler but not hitlers dead.This has nothing to do with war,this has every thing to do with crazed babbie killers.
mystic81006 1 year ago
@mystic81006 The pope visited the memorial of the jews who were killed during WW2. To be honest, I'm a former catholic because of their wrong doctrines.
flameboy1236 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 so bad the the Vatican operated the ratlines after the war?
leonvoltaire 1 year ago
@flameboy1236 yOU ARE A BETTER HISTORIAN THAN A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WITH HIND SIGHT
CONTRIBUTING TO THIS TOPIC OF CALUMNY AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
redsilkcut1 1 year ago
1. Are you confusing the ancient Romans with the Catholic Chuch? (Roman Salute) 2. Himmler inspired himself in the organization of the Jesuits, certainly not the ideology! He "transferred" no one into his party! 3.Franco was not a Nazi, he was a Catholic patriot. 3.Are you implying Bush was a Catholic too? What is the extent of your insanity? Christians were being massacred by reds in Spain, in Russia. That is the origin of Christian support for 1930's strongmen. I would do exacly the same.
thegreatfearblog 1 year ago
The Roman salute is from the Roman empire genius, not the Roman Catholic church.
Here was Papen's treatment of the Concordat: "Papen maintains that his actions regarding the Church were sincere, and he has asserted, during interrogations, that it was Hitler who sabotaged the Concordat. If von Papen really believed in the very solemn undertakings given by him on behalf of the Reich to the Vatican, I submit it is strange that he, himself a Catholic, should have continued to serve Hitler...
ihaveadesk1 1 year ago
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-after all those violations and even after the Papal Encyclical itself. . .I will say that Papen was himself involved in what was virtually, if not technically, a violation of the Concordat. The Tribunal will recollect . . . .[t]he very first item the Pope mentioned was the dissolution of Catholic organisations and... if the Tribunal will look...they will see that in September, 1934 von Papen ordered - and I say "ordered" advisedly - the dissolution of the Union of Catholic Germans...
ihaveadesk1 1 year ago
Hitler lived in Bavaria, which is 90%+ Catholic. It is so Catholic that it is irrelevant. It is like saying that there are Nazis have connections with German people.
mindspring57 1 year ago
Pope Pius XI wrote a papal encyclical called "With Burning Anxiety", in 1937. It condemned Nazi policies as being contrary to the laws of God. Go ahead and look it up if you don't believe it.
Don't forget that Pope Pius XII was praised by many Jews for his efforts to save Jews from death camps. Albert Einstein being one of them. Another, Israel Anton Zoller, was so grateful to Pius XII, he actually converted to Catholicism and even took the Pope's first name, Eugenio, as his baptismal name.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
It would not suprise me if the Catholic church had something to do with Nazi sympathisers. The Catholic Church will do anything aslong as theres something in it for them. They are simply hypocrits. A classic example is them expressing to everyone that they should all help make poverty history, when the truth is they could feed a nation by selling a single painting in the vatican. If their was money involved with the Nazis, im sure the Catholics would have been in it for sure.
Ledtoogesabpistol70s 1 year ago
@dbzman1985 Holocaust and Inquisition one done by Nazis others by Church but both had same fear based tactics fascistic tendencies. Maybe the violence turned them on made them powerful.I wonder in that situation if one did not feel fear would they have nothing to feed on?
abby495 1 year ago
7-RIMINI, Italy, Aug. 28, 2001: What does New York Rabbi David Dalin think of Pope Pius XII?
"The Jewish people had no greater friend in the 20th Century," says the historian.
According to Rabbi Dalin, who on August 22 addressed the meeting organized by the Catholic movement Communion and Liberation, "during the Second World War, Pius XII saved more Jewish lives than any other person, including Raoul Wallenberg and Oskar Schindler."
Gatta9 1 year ago
6-[Lapide] was consul general of Israel in Milan and met with many Italian Jews who survived the Holocaust. In his work, Lapide documents how Pius XII worked for the salvation of at least 700,000 from the hands of the Nazis. However, according to another estimate, this figure rises to 860,000.
Gatta9 1 year ago
5- continued Chief Rabbi Isaac Herzog of Israel, Prime Ministers Golda Meir and Moshe Sharett; and, in Italy, people like Raffaele Cantoni, who at the time was president of the Italian Union of Jewish Communities. But many articles published at different times in Boston's Jewish Advocate, The Times of London, and The New York Times can also be perused.
Gatta9 1 year ago
4-Rabbi Dalin: I call today's critics revisionists because they reverse the judgment of history, namely the recognition given to Pius XII by his contemporaries, among whom is Nobel Prize [ winner] Albert Einstein,
Gatta9 1 year ago
3-For nine months, 60 Jews lived with the Jesuits at the Pontifical Gregorian University, and many others were hidden in the basement of the Biblical Institute. Following Pius XII's instructions, risking their own lives, many priests and monks made possible the salvation of hundreds of Jewish lives.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-In this way, he saved thousands of Italian Jews from deportation. While 80% of European Jews died in those years, 80% of Italian Jews were saved. In Rome alone, 155 convents and monasteries gave refuge to some 5,000 Jews. At any given moment, at least 3,000 were saved in the papal residence of Castel Gandolfo, being freed from deportation to German concentration camps.
Gatta9 1 year ago
Historian and Rabbi David Dalin says: We have much documentation, which shows that in no way did he remain silent. What is more, he spoke out loudly against Hitler and almost everyone saw him as an opponent of the Nazi regime. During the German occupation of Rome, Pius XII secretly instructed the Catholic clergy to use all means to save as many human lives as possible.
Gatta9 1 year ago
Wrong "The Catholic Church was the only one to raise its voice against Hitler's attack on freedom. Until that period the Church had never attracted my attention, but today I express my great admiration and my profound attachment to this Church which alone had the boundless courage to fight for moral and spiritual freedom". --Albert Einstein (himself a Jew), Essays
Gatta9 1 year ago
I was a Catholic till I started reading the bible.
pixelspain 1 year ago
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pixelspain 1 year ago
@pixelspain Last I checked Jesus wasn't a Christian. Whatever Christianity is I don't think Jesus would be happy with how i turned out. Or so the Gnostics believed. They knew more than Cretians Don't blame the Devil for the fault of the death cult. You or your God did it. The Devil isn't your emotional psychological tampon douche or something everytime you mess up. I am praying that your blaspheme will be forgiven mwahaha
abby495 1 year ago
@pixelspain
The Catholic Church gave you the Bible. If you believe in the Bible then you at least indirectly believe in the Catholic Church who compiled and preserved it. You believe and trust that the Catholic Church did not change anything in the Bible.
fx2py 1 year ago
@fx2py The Catholic Church didn't give us the Bible! Every single word in the bible, every single one, was written by a Jew - not the catholic church. The catholic church wasn't even around till 300 years after Jesus. The bible itself is so powerful, the Catholic church burnt people who translated it into English. You see, when you read the bible you realize there is no need for human priests to have a relationship with God. You realize that religion based on works is wrong. God bless.
pixelspain 1 year ago
@pixelspain Tell me then, who compiled and preserved the Bible prior to the16th century. Please be specific and don't give a generic cop-out answer like "the early Bible-believers". The Catholic Church originated with the death of Jesus Christ, not 300 years later. The Bible was translated into English long before Wycliff. Many have been deceived by the self-taught version of Christianity and reading the Bible without the teaching authority of the Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ.
fx2py 1 year ago
@fx2py From about 40 AD, and continuing to about 90 AD, the eye-witnesses to the life of Jesus wrote the Gospels, letters and books that became the Bible's New Testament. These authors quote from the Old Testament, and widely circulate their material so that by about 150 AD, early Christians were referring to the entire set of writings as the "New Covenant." During the 200s AD, the original writings were translated from Greek into Latin. Still another 100 years before the catholic church.
pixelspain 1 year ago
@pixelspain
I asked you to be specific, yet you still used general terms like "early Christians" and "were translated" without providing any names of particular individuals, groups of Christians, or places.
Who compiled the Bible (i.e. who set the canon and determined which books do or do not belong in the Bible?) and who preserved it from the 1st through the 16th centuries (i.e. who kept it from disappearing from history or being changed throughout this period?)? Again, please be specific.
fx2py 1 year ago