Hanegraaff Todd Bentley 'gangrene' Part1

[cookie4re1]

Mr Hanegraaff's had issues with money also in CA with I would not put much in believing him either.

[88momart]

Iam jealous for God. That anyone could call this putridity "a move of God". is blasphemy of the highest order. Don't even pretend you have a clue as to the Holy Spirit's nature, if you are willing to associate His beauty, with this mess.

[ClumsyRoot]

Todd Bentley is the real thing! He cured my hypochondria!

[oceaneyess67]

the reality is, those in third world countries seem to get the incredible healings and more healings, raise from dead etc.. because they dont have doctors to rely on like we do. Now Mr hangeraff has been against the move of God since its beginning, I have witnessed some of these conference and KNOW for a fact it to be a move of God now Yes there are some counterfeits but that lady is. I believe he is a man of God thats just ignorant right now, to much book smart not enough Holy Spirit fire

[TR5T]

The most destructive force ever unleashed within the church happened in the 60s when we exchanged God's wisdom and the crucified life for fleshly "love". It was not nor is not AGAPE.

Without discernment hoards pass on into the waiting arms of demons, unmoved by proclaimations of "Jesus is Lord" they are the many that say in that day "Lord. Lord did we not do........in your name" . "Straight is the Gate, narrow is the way FEW be there that find it".

[Strefanash]

expectation raised to fever pitch, then of course not met, is the highest and most rarified cruelty I have ever seen or experienced.

I wont go to any of these frauds ever again.

and yes discernment is a duty, but Hanegraaff's exploits with money some years ago have blunted his credibility.

It really is a matter of sola scriptura (Bible alone); and sola gratia (grace alone)

I dont need Hanegraaff either

[BoyJewish]

Hank has taken a vow of poverty....that is commendable!

[GooglFascists]

@BoyJewish That can also be used as a CONVENIENT EXCUSE for being punished

with poverty for having a judgmental spirit. Bentley is off the wall nuts and anyone

with a mustard seed of discernment can easily pick up on it.

Hanegraaff has been damning the Full Gospel Holiness movement for decades;

only because HE SEEMS TOO MOSSBACKED IN HIS DENOMINATIONAL COMFORT

ZONE TO HUMBLE HIMSELF & RECEIVE FROM GOD. We see here 2 ends of the

spiritual spectrum: Wild, fleshly excess & Pharisaical Pride.

[nickybadboy50]

I agree! God bless you.

[AirJuvi43]

I agree that Todd got off course and needs to be held accountable, corrected and disciplined. I don't agree with a lot of Todds teachings but I have an even bigger problem with guys like Hank- who I feel teaches inaccuratly that slander men who have fallen from grace. When someone falls from grace you don't call them gangrene- you pray for them to be healed and restored to the body of Christ.

[nicknchrist]

Amen Juvi. What are these men producing? Where are the men of GOD whom like Jesus backed the WORD of GOD with HIS POWER? Where are the Pauls of the day who would DARE to say that they don't come preaching in mens wisdom but in demonstration of the HOLY GHOST and of POWER? Are these so called men of GOD displaying the REAL POWER or do they just have the gift of "criticism'? It's one thing to say this or that is not of GOD but it's another to show what IS of GOD.

[Conservmom]

Watchdog group reported Hank H. as taking too much money and he had to repay his ministry. Todd is a fraud, but Hank has lost credibility in my eyes. Do your research on all leaders. Their sins will find them out.

[awarmheart8]

Where did Jesus say to slander and tear down?

[tspencley3]

exposing truth isnt slander read your bible

[ROCHELDION]

Actually Jesus had many Names biblically

[klard]

Those who worship the name Jesus as the Christ are falling to another damning lie of the Roman Church. The Christs name is Yahushuah. If you translate the name Jesus back into the Hebrew you get Esau. The Roman Church has people worshipping Esau as God, what an abomination.

[smokepole68]

Jesus is the greek translation for the Hebrew name Joshua. Since there is no "J" in the Hebrew language It would be pronounced as Yahshua not Esau.

[lui1013]

Thank you!

[Dar20002000]

funkymonkeys222 you are right...people want to see Jesus himself come as "proof" of his existence. But the truth is, there would be no difference today than what the pharisees and the critics did back then. They would crucify him again. That's why God requires Faith. Without faqith, it is impossible to please God (Hebrews 11:6).

[funkymonkeys222]

I'm sure happy I'm NOT a christian, you christians seem kill each other off. It looks like to me in jelousy of each other. My friend at work says check out this todd bentley on youtube if I don't believe in god, I checked out some of his videos but what scares me the most is all the different comments, I can't believe the negativism in the comments. Sounds like you will ALL crucify this jesus character again (if he ever returns) haha LOL if I was god I would smite you ALL!!!

[Ahouseisnotahome]

First, Christains are not a cult, they can agree and disagree on issues such as the ones presented in this vid. I would sincerely question any movement that does not allow disagreement on these secondary issues.

2nd, I would not want to hurt anyone that disagrees with me. Disagreeing does not equal wanting to kill someone off as you suggest. Do you want to hurt people who disagree with you? No of course not.

Disagreeing does not always mean being negative, I hope this has positive results.

[jannellski]

wow you make more sense than hank

[witchcerridwen]

@funkymonkeys222 well what did you wanna see then a wonderful preacher?TODD IS A FRAUD BUT A SMART FRAUD.i mean he makes a good living out of the lie.

[nickybadboy50]

Hanegraaff is a brilliant theologian. All you need is a sound mind, dedication & determination to understand scripture. Hanegraaff has both. You do not have to know either Greek or Hebrew to know Christ. Anyone with average intelligence can easily break down the gospels if they the have desire. In my experience, the more educated the person, the more the their intellect gets in the way. Many over complicate & over analyze Gods word. David was a poor shepard, Peter & Andrew, humble fisherman.

[09JaneElizabeth]

@nickybadboy50

Most importantly we need the Holy Spirit, otherwise we are going nowhere, otherwise its all head knowledge, but when the Spirit of God comes, everything becomes reality!!!! God bless you

[anglegirl22]

Bentley is not the first pastor to do such great miracles while having sexual sins! Let me tell you a story of a pastor in Marion Iowa that made his wife look mental and even had his son arrested to cover the fact that the pastor beat him up. He secretly taped them and edited his part out so they looked mental and left them with nothing! He put his porn problem upon his wife after raping his wife with a battery charger and asking her to have sex with him and his male friend!

[Ahouseisnotahome]

Oh my, that poor family!

This is just one of the reasons we can not let those claiming 'great healings' be our Guide, we must go by the Word of God and let it be our final decision.

There are people who even deny Christ who claim healings, so healings can not decide whether a man is from god or not. However what they all have in common is that like Todd et al, never once do you see legs, arms etc grow back, never see the dead like Lazarus raised.

[anglegirl22]

im sorry it looks like ill have to change my password that comment is from my mom, and i do not agree with my mother at all on this issue and i here by wash my hands clean of it and any one seeing these comment just remeber im not here, and i never watch any crap with a pastor in it

thank you

[YeshuaLionOfJudah]

Precious Lord Jesus!

I worship You!

You alone deserve ALL the honor,praise,glory and thanksgiving!

Lord,if people want to tattoo their bodies from head to toe,You will still love them.

However they can't compare their foolish acts to Your Precious Wounds!

They can't bring Your pierced hands and feet down to the same level of their foolishness!

I wept before the Lord about this situation: the disrespect for Jesus's wounds!

God is not mocked!This is not about a bad marriage or lust only

[jeanetteaw]

Amen.

[worship27]

you are just as much fallen as bikerboot.you are just as decieved because the devil has enlisted you in his civil war. Please

search out the new video,,,confronting the lies and accusations.. robertbrownell channel. Just as Jesus did not confront His accusers so goes Bentley. Bentley will wear a large crown in heaven before he places it at Jesus' feet.Yeah biker's not perfect.R U? You will see how you have been decieved by the demons of hell who's mission is to destroy the church from within.

[Ahouseisnotahome]

Oh please, 'the civil war crowd' lol, we are in real life not some cartoon hyped up Rick Joyner/bob jones new breed animation.

The false prophets are out to wage war with the word of God and those who put the word above experience based goosebumps. They need new revelation because they cant find support in Scripture. They have also been presenting a false Christ for 50 years+ Catch up please.

Jesus always confronted the liars "Offspring of vipers" and He warned of the false christs.

[Ahouseisnotahome]

""""Bentley will wear a large crown in heaven before he places it at Jesus""""

Yep men raised up and Jesus dragged down as usual.

I am away for the week so cant be getting into dialogue with you, but I want you to know that I will pray for you. Worship God in spirit and TRUTH. May HE guide you.

I wish you nothing but the best as you seek him above this current delusion.

[worship27]

Hank there has been an answer for you very theologically correct to all the lies and accusations against the Lakeland revival. You need to see it and stop spreading dissention in the body of Christ. Don't you realize what you are doing is causing pain in the body of Jesus. Repent and do the works of God. My heart hearts for the body of Christ when I hear the venom that spews from your evil mouth. REPENT

[Ahouseisnotahome]

Pity your heart doesnt hurt for the body of Christ when you see these false revivalists deceiving so many and twisting scripture to their own destruction.

You call 'bad' good and you call 'good' bad.

The Lakeland and Toronto set out to cause division in the Body, how dare you blame Jesus Christ for the hidious Todd Bentley et al. Your heart 'should' hurt if you refuse to stop insulting the Grace of God by treading his truth underfoot.

Enjoy your bikerboot man, even though he is fallen.

[fordorgnew]

What mostly hurts the Body of Christ is NOT healthy discerment for which we are commanded to do but the false prophets, the false teachers, the lustful "healers", the money-lovers who are after our money, by the wolves in sheep's clothing because they DO NOT preach Christ, repentance from sins, exposing sin, holiness, carrying our cross daily and so many other important things.

[worship27]

fordorgnew- there is one here on youtube with a love for the church as you can read in his replies, and a great wisdom. After months of seeing much confusion-there is a voice crying out,,,visit robertbrownell's channel on utube--confronting lies, accusations against the florida outpouring. Yes, Bentley has sin, as do I, you and all of God's church. And yet, God chose to use Bentley to manifest His healing power to thousands. Please- watch this video.Bless you.

[fordorgnew]

I checked his channel. Thank you! He is so scared about someone saiying something that we cannot leave comments on his "don't-touch-Todd-channel." DO you really think that God was using Todd in the midst of his adultery, er..., "unhealthy relationship with anothe femane staff"? Is God so miserable and desparate that he would use the only person left on earth who is in huge marital problems? Come on! Yes, God can use donkeys but I think they are not his first choice! I am not after Todd but sin!

[worship27]

You can leave a comment-there are some people who's thinking is so off on this whole thing it is my opinion that those are the ones he will not post. Or could be the comments that are dittos of other comments he as answered. This robert B has the most sound mind I have found out here in utube land.I will answer you Q's.1.Yes God still uses donkeys today-thw word tell us He uses the weak, foolish...Do you think Todd qualifies?2.Did God use King David who committed UDULTREY and MURDER?God chooses.

[fordorgnew]

You are soo off the Bible. 1)Everyoine qualifies to be used by God, but firstly and mostly God is after saving our soul, making us holy and healing us.2)Yes, king David committed adultery and BITTERLY REPENTED and THEN GOD USED HIM!.Todd and his ministry are sweeping it under the carpet. We cannot jsutifiy sin just because we like the sinner!

[worship27]

I don't see them sweeping it under the rug,Todd is off ministry! King David stayed King of Isreal, he did not step down-He stayed in ministry and his sin was much more grevious than Todd's. King David said when speaking of his sin--.."against God, and Him only have I sinned.."Who is justifying Todd's sin? Do you think we should be praying for Todd? And yes-everyone qualifies to be used by God, even Todd.

[fordorgnew]

We are talking about timing here-the ministry removed Todd from serving AFTER they ALREADY knew about his situation. And if it had not broken out, who knows how long would have Todd "served" in this "revival." You CANNOT build your theology on one verse only. Actually, you are doing exactly what most of these "great preachers, revivalists" and othre cons are doing-find a verse that suits you best and hit the TV screen. There will always be an audience to give money.

[worship27]

Did God know what a "mess" TB was when God decided to heal people in this Lakeland gathering? Did God know that Todd was going to have an unhealthy relationship during these meetings? sure.sure. And, sure God could have done these great works using Joel Olsteen, or whoever your favorite candidate would be.Why do you think the word says ..He uses the weak,....Who would you have preferred God used to release these demonstrations of His power? Your pastor? You?

Love to you fordorgnew, thanks!

[fordorgnew]

Oh, my God! You should seriously check some theological commentaries to see what the Bible REALLY means by "God using the weak." No, God can choose whom to use but He is NOT to be mocked at. My problem is that I do NOT see it as God using Tod AT ALL!And yes, we are not taliking about me, my pastor and I.Why did Fresh Fire let Todd "serve his last service" since they alredy knew about his adultery and serious marital problems? That is simply sick!

[worship27]

How about God using the foolish...would you, could you recieve that? You say you do not see God using Todd at all, are you saying that you do not believe that people were healed, revived in God, touched, saved in the florida outpouring meetings? Did you go?

[fordorgnew]

Yes, I AM ALREADY praying for Todd. Feeling like revival is not the same as being in the revival. Look man, God exposed Todd for what he was doing. That should be very serious warning to ALL OF US! You are SO shallow in interpreting the Bible. Although I have 2 theological degrees and have MUCH broader pictures of what is going on with Todd & Co., I have no desire to proove anything to you. Only God can! If someone is blind, only God can open his eyes.

[worship27]

I majored in Biblical Education in college myself-unfortunately it was in a school that taught many of the heresies of man, dispensationism,etc. As a new believer even back then I knew something was askew with their teaching,they had to "work" the scriptures too much to get them to say what they were trying to teach.I went to see my daughter Sat.,freshman at Lee College so glad she will not be subjected to as much heresy as I am still overcoming.We succumb to false teaching to "make the grade"

[fordorgnew]

I hold Bachelor of Theology (I majored in Cults and Religions) and a Masters in Theology (Hilaskomai model of the atonement in the New Testament). My studies were quite diffcult because: 1) I wanted to learn a lot, and, 2) We had the top 10-20 Christian theologians of our time teach at my college who gave us very hard time :-) All my studies were done bilingually. I also studied Greek, Hebrew and German. One would not belive how much work we had to put in writing just one paper.

[Ahouseisnotahome]

great story. I believe many of the new Christians can see something wrong with all of these doctrines, they are then set upon by others who have an experienced based theology, sadly, many times, the new Christain submits to the error because they cannot defend themselves.

[fordorgnew]

"Foolish" in the Bible NEVER equals STUPID, non-descirning mind, or leaving our brains, i.e. the mind of Christ somewhere on the shelf. We are called to descern the spirits, which uncludes EVERYONE who comes to our churches to preach, teach, hold revival, heal, etc. My problem is Todd so much as is the way we, the Christians, easily accept some "other gospel" that does NOT preach Christ and its focus is pleasing man, i.e. the flesh.

[worship27]

fordorgnew-bless you and may God be with us all as we continually seek Him. I love you in the Lord. Peace in Jesus. got to go back to work

[fordorgnew]

Please do not misunderstand me, I am NOT the Judge, God is. But I like using what God has given us - the mind of Christ to serve the Body. God bless you too.

[Ahouseisnotahome]

AMEN fordorgnew! only just saw your post.

[fordorgnew]

To God be the glory and honor, forever and ever! Amen! I am only a vessel in His hands and want to serve him in any way I can, especially when it comes to false doctrines. We are all called to renew our mind with God's Word and to USE it. I am afraid that most Christians want someone else to do the thinking but this is everone's responsibility. The most prescious gift any church can have is the gift of discernment. Blessed is the church and the pastor who have it!

[worship27]

was it adultery? they said it was an emotional attatchment-they didn't say itwas a physical one.Are you familiar with the great ministry YWAM?Similar situation(if this is an emotional attactchment)the leader of that ministry had an emotional attachment to someone on staff.They never kissed,touched, or had sex. Still the man lost his ministry, his wife etc. Jack Winter of the great Youth With A Mission.I pray that God help you with your processing all this and give you good prayers to pray.Bless!

[fordorgnew]

The question is not so much if it were adultery or not but, again, the way we, the "salt of the earth" and "light of this world" are handling sin. I can also write pages and pages about Todd's "preaching", or whatever you may call it. The point is-the Word of God will stay forever and I want to hold onto it, and not to emotional and questionable practices called "revival." I have experinced real revival-people we wept over our sin, God brought new souls, etc...

[frankielee77]

Hank himself is an anti-Christ.This is a fact.

[thrufaithalone]

Thanks for posting this; you can hear the heartbreak he feels for the deceived (he's had two more programs on Aug. 5th & 6th about this)

[sammykins2006]

Excellent video. It is so sad how blinded the churh is when it comes to false prophets. Shocking.

[Catthief6418]

Can anyone help a brother find in the bible, scripture in reguards to petra the city where the Jews are to go for safety in the end days Looked in my Strongs concordance but cant find Petra

[PjotrII]

There is no such passage!

[akdraw1]

Catthief6418,

Fans of the recently popular Left Behind series of books, amongst others, will claim Petra to have future prophetical reference in Scriptures. There are NO direct references to Petra in end-times prophetic passages.

Matthew 24:15-16 "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel - let the reader understand- 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains [don'tread in Petra here].

[akdraw1]

Luke 21:20-21 "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains [don't read in Petra here], let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.

[akdraw1]

Revelation 12:14-16 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert[don't read in Petra here],where she would be taken care of for a time,times and half a time,out of the serpent's reach.15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river,to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent.16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

[Catthief6418]

Thank You

[cindeemorgan]

Thank you Pete! God bless you!

[cindeemorgan]

Sharon Morgan is the "grandaughter" of the late Dr. Walter Martin. I apologize for the typo. God bless CRI!

[Ahouseisnotahome]

I highly recommend everyone see the video you posted. Thank you and God Bless 100%

[searchthetruthnow]

Part 3:

Regarding error in scripture, Timothy has given us the following instructions

1st Scripture:2 Timothy 4:2 (KJV)

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

1st Definition: Reprove:

1. correct, esp. gently: to reprove a pupil for making a mistake.

2. to disapprove of strongly; censure: to reprove a bad decision.

3. Obsolete. to disprove or refute.

4. to speak in reproof; administer a reproof

Read Part 4

[searchthetruthnow]

Part 2: I want to share some scripture with all, including definitions of key words in the scripture so that your perception and your manner will be in balance and focus. I want to help U all have a better understanding of the words judgement, reprove, rebuke and exhort in scripture and the contexts in which it is written. Read Part 3

[searchthetruthnow]

Part 1:

I would first like to say that I definitely do not agree with all that has unfolded in Lakeland. Nevertheless I would like to offer some good advice: READ THE BIBLE IN BALANCE and then research to obtain correct understandings so that you may not display actions of arrogance & potentially develop a critical spirit. U may end up putting your own salvation at risk. Since all man has sinned, we must never forget the grace which God has bestowed upon through His son Jesus Christ. Read Part 2

[BonnyBunny4real]

Amen Ahouse! In Ezekiel we read that a watchman will be held responsible by God if he sees something wrong and says nothing to warn the people. It also says the people themselves have a responsibility to react, and if they don't - well, the watchman has done all he/she can. Hank is issuing a warning. He's done his bit. Now it's up to YOU the listeners to take heed, or ignore at your peril. God loves you and is trying desperately to keep you away from harm! Listen to the voice of the watchmen!

[Ahouseisnotahome]

Starrman, lets assume for the minute that you are right. Does it make bentley right if Hank is wrong? What are you saying? Hank will be judged for kicking people in the face/kneeing them/punching them/bamming them?

Since you havent addressed one single thing that was said in this vid its hard to establish where you are coming from. All of the apostles judged and we are told to judge right(John 7:24)so you will be judged for not judging the false but allowing it to eat away like a cancer.

[starrman777]

Sadly, Hank will be judged in the same manner that is is judging... and no minister in the world could stand up under that level of scrutiny.

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[masterowa]

Come on, wake up people and seek God where he really is - how do we know where he is? Open your Bible and find out.

[masterowa]

The story about the lady and her sick girl is touching but it has nothing to the way we judge the spirits. I want to notice that not everyone in the Bible were healed even if they believed deeply.

How messed up has to be your faith that one believes in healing by going to that kind of meetings? (luke 7 - Jesus said 'i have not found such great faith even in Israel' about the centurion - check why) how desperate you must be to eat trash instead of bread (Bible)?