Polikarpov I-16 MOSCA, RATA Engine Start

[MrMome1612]

I love this ugly little plane!

[MrJp990]

Original engine?

[sk1llblack]

Lovely sound.

[Griexxt]

Definitely the cutest of all WW2 fighters.

[akulax2]

wow a real deal! I honestly wish I could own this or yak3 or especially real IL2 3M !!! Does anyone know of a video of restored IL2 flying and so on?

[bert666666]

It's not strange to see the US of A calling it a rata, like the fascists did at the time. The US of A was on the fascist side during the whole war.But the good name is Mosca in Spain, and if I'm correct, it was the "donkey" in russian?

[teenonator]

@bert666666 The US was on the side of the Fascists as the Brits, the Canadians, and the Irish were(by trying to stay out of the fight), although thousands from all those countries fought & died for the Republican causa. But by attempting to remain neutral, they allowed the German and Italian governments to beef up the Fascists.

By the way "Mosca" is 'fly' or 'gnat' en Espanol

[noonsight2010]

@teenonator

Absolutely. Great Britain and the other nations missed a chance to put down fascism in the early days. A crime of history. Likewise another opportunity was missed when the Czechs mobilised in 1938. With their modern, mechanised military they had the theoretical capability to defeat Nazi Germany on their own. Instead, Chamberlain, Daladier and co. sold them out in a stupidly naieve manner.

[SzePt58]

@noonsight2010 Hitler jó ember volt! Ti vagytok gonoszok,gyarmatositók és kizsákmányolók!

Dreck juden! Arbeit macht frei!

[noonsight2010]

@SzePt58 Evidently an Eastern European Nazi. It's rare to come across someone lower than one of Hitler's toy turds. Die you scum. Death to all Nazis and their apologists.

[AryanKnight]

@noonsight2010 <---Usual sick Jew-bastard..!!

[noonsight2010]

@AryanKnight And you're another American traitor, another of Hitler's toy turds. You scum. DEATH TO NAZIS.

[AryanKnight]

@noonsight2010 <---Charming fellow, --typical hateful Jew..!!!

[noonsight2010]

@AryanKnight You really are delusional. DEATH TO NAZIS.

[AryanKnight]

@noonsight2010 <---what'th, the entire world now knows what anti-social psychopathic liars and warmongers the jewZionists are; --their insane control-freak game's being exposed via the internet..!! 

[noonsight2010]

@FFulmenTheFinnish

A lie doesn't become true because you repeat it, you oxygen thief. Now stop stealing and go and brush up on your punctuation, which is atrocious.

[FFulmenTheFinnish]

@noonsight2010 You're funny man, thanks for the laughs. :D

[noonsight2010]

@FFulmenTheFinnish Go chase your reindeer.

[noonsight2010]

@teenonato Viva the International Brigades who fought put down Facism during 1936-1939. The British, apart from the inevetable few traitors, despised facism. It was Chamberlain, Deladier et al who were weak and let down their nations.

[noonsight2010]

@FFulmenTheFinnish Those who support Nazism are Nazis. Filth! But then look where you come from. I don't know that Finland did anything towards defending the world from the Axix powers.

[AryanKnight]

@noonsight2010 <---typical jewCommie of the sort that noble St.Hitler was struggling against, and was doing quite well until the criminal jewZionist-mafia of JewYork-city headed by the Roothschild/Rockefeller induced the jewPres.-FDR to force n.America's to go over and slaughter freedom-loving Germans in WW2 (-which was the only Holocaust, --no Jews were intentionally killed in the rather lavish safe-encampments..!!!

[noonsight2010]

@AryanKnight You pathetic delusional criminal. You have no education, as shown by your complete lack of historical knowledge and English punctuation. Jews saved the Allies by firstly indicating to the USA that the atom bomb was possible and that the Nazis were working on one. Secondly Oppenheimer led the scientic effort at Los Alomos. You are criminally insane. If you're not then I hope you die in long-suffering agony, you genetic dreg of humanity.

[AryanKnight]

@noonsight2010 <---i apologize to fellow Utube'rs but this moronic arrogant Commie-jew is promoting his arrogant Zionist-propaganda... No, the phony jew-physicists like A.Einstein & R.Oppenheimer never invented anything! St.Hitler's scientists developed the A-bomb, and the USA-jews merely hyjacked it to insanely Holacaust Japan. St.Hitler refused its use as being inhumanly cruel as a WMD; --yet sadly, nothing is to nasty for the anti-social JewZionists..!!!

[noonsight2010]

@AryanKnight Seek mental health treatment without delay.

[IanHunedoara8]

@bert666666 US was neutral in the Spanish Civil War but Yanks volunteered to join the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

[DushaLisa]

@bert666666 it was the "ishachok" in russian. Because of the consonant names. But yes, in English ishachok little donkey. Похоже в английском не различают ослов и ишаков...

[unab84]

IL-2 Sturmovic ftw!

[nothingfreeanymore]

named due sound: RATARATARATATRATARARARA

[chevyred427]

looks kinda like a GeeBee



[Juanyco13]

Polikarpov I-16, llamado por el bando Republicano "Mosca" ya q cuando llegaron las 1ªs unidades, en la caja de madera únicamente se podía leer Mockba, Moscú en cirílico. Lo de rata se le denominó así en el sitio de Madrid por los sublevados, bueno, por un mando italiano, porq según el, parecian ratas saliendo de las alcantarillas q eran las calles de Madrid en las 1ªs embestidas del bando francisquitofranco. Aparecían entre los edificios y en vuelo rasante para masacrar sus filas...

[IceCoolG4mes]

1st plane in 1930 that could retract its landing gear!.....i think :/

[CygnusatratusZ]

It was called "Mosca" (Fly) by the Spanish Loyalists, because the boxes in which they came from Moscow had written over it Moskva (Moscow). The Nationalists called them "Rata" (Rat) because of the tactic of approaching bombers below the level of the top of buildings in order to sustain the most the element of surprise, which was to the bombers' crews as if the fighters suddenly jumped on them like rats, hence the name... Take care, God bless...

[pakitogrizzly]

viva la gloriosa!

[sking0369]

Did the I-16 have a self starter? Usualy I've seen pictures of a truck with a starting driveshaft engaging the propeller hub.

[starfiremaster]

Fuck Red Star Basterd

[WizardOfChicamunga]

I had no idea there was even an I-16 left, let alone one in flying shape! Wow! How cool!

[aaronzack14]

what was the name of the plane that had a cummin`s engine in the commercials?

[kristenburnout1]

It should be called RATTLE

[MrElSatan]

Rare!

[grasess]

this plan was the best fighter, later it was bf 109.

[ckolonko]

One of my favourite planes to fly in IL-2.

[kolbpilot]

One can only respect the Rata once its history is learned. Would love to fly one on a warm summer evening.

[tractor79765]

Weren't these copied from the Gee Bee racers of the 30's?

[gcrav]

@tractor79765

The Gee Bee influenced a lot of fighter design of that era, but the I-16 more than most. 

[GibsonLee606]

i noticed that polikarpov fighter desing planes are fat

[CinnamonaYT]

A story from the I-16's pilot: /watch?v=usgcSjjT588

[petrwarry72]

5*****

[zverogaz]

Вот это звууууууууук!!!!! УрА!

[billace90]

That 1-16 is awesome. My father in law was drafted in the Spanish Republican Army during the Spanish Civil War. He used to work as a mechanic servicing those planes in an airfield near Barcelona. He also worked on the biplane gullwing Polikarpov, that performed well at the start of the war. He even built in pine wood a scale model of the latter, which I keep, with the correct markings. Congratulations to all aviation enthusiasts.

[shakespearespqr]

Both "Mosca & Rata" are correct.

Rata was used by the fascist army because the I-16 had a great capability of ascension and it attacked the rebel bombers from below, wich was considered by the rebels as a dirty tactic.

Mosca was the name given by the Republican loyalists, since the planes were imported from the Soviet Union in cages with "Moskva" (Moscow) typed in them, and the pronounciation of Moskva in russian and mosca in Spanish is very similar. BTW, Mosca means "fly" (bug) in Spanish.

[DrHavoc1]

@shakespearespqr They called it fly because they were surprised of how such a redicilously shaped aircraft could fly so well.

[shakespearespqr]

@DrHavoc1

Im not sure 100%, but i think i heard it from an actual ex republican fighter pilot..

An imo, being ridiculously shaped has nothing to do with a fly, while Moskva and Mosca (fly) sound very similar in Spanish, and the background (the planes being sent from Moskva (Moscow) - Soviet Union) is more believable.

[DrHavoc1]

a fly flies pretty well as opposed to its size and shape :D having a short body i can see something in common with the plane .

[shakespearespqr]

@DrHavoc1

well, its really up to you wich version believe.

[DrHavoc1]

i think its a combination of the two.

[AndreiTupolev]

One did manage to shoot down an Fw 190, once, I read somewhere.

[sebipatru]

romanian recon plains iar 39 succed to shoot down in a dog fight one rata

so what can you say anymore about a fighter who cannot fifgt with a recon plain

[IanHunedoara8]

I-16's didn't have opportunity to make a show of it in early weeks of June-July 1941. They were caught on the ground and destroyed by the thousands.

[angryace13]

really small little bugger the i16, i bet it could manuver quite well.

[GerbilEssences]

Indeed it could ;)

[FilipinoZeroFighter]

@angryace13 it wasnt called the "fly" for nothing... it resembled a fly in its maneuvers.

[angryace13]

@FilipinoZeroFighter

its definitely my favorite Russian fighter, it may be slow, but by what you say, buy the fact it weighs nothing, and it its short stout small build, it probably rolled and turned well.

[FilipinoZeroFighter]

@angryace13 definitely. it was very unstable in flight and only very little control input was needed to induce nerve-wracking maneuvers. it wasn't the fastest but in the right hands it was a challenge to shoot down and to fight with - with the exception of the Zero fighter which could engage it in equal terms (in terms of agility) ...

[angryace13]

@FilipinoZeroFighter

Except the Zero was not such a good high speed turner, heavier airplanes even American Dive bombers and Torpido bombers have been known to out turn the Zero at higher speeds, beacuse they can take the stresses of maneuvering, even though i prefer the P-51, once again, if i had to choose a Russian fighter, this would be the one, i bet it was hard to spot too beacuse it was so small!

[FilipinoZeroFighter]

@angryace13 yes. the zero wasnt terribly great at high speeds. but against the polikarpov, i'd say they were on more or less an even footing. both were undersized (compared to western types; or most specially american ones) but in the right hands........ oooh! the possibilities are boundless.

[tommiatkins]

@angryace13 It had a lot of lateral instability. In other words it could roll really well and had a tight turning circle. The problem was it was too unstable, snapped into uncontrolable spins and although it could recover from them well, that made it a bad dogfighter. its weak engine provided poor energy retention against WW2 fighters and its armement was puny. They were destroyed in cartloads by modern fighters like the BF109.

[angryace13]

@tommiatkins

i am very aware, there is more than agility when it comes to a dogfight, and the I-16 lacked speed, firepower, and probably durability, power, and by what you say... control.

[tommiatkins]

@angryace13 Yeah. Pretty much. The VVS had poor training as well. i wonder how they would have preformed in more capable hands?

[angryace13]

@tommiatkins

that would be interesting, that plays a huge role, it could have made a difference, if the aircrafts instability is used to its advantage, it may have saved a few.

[MadIgor1]

@tommiatkins you are quiet wrong, the I-16 was capable fighter. The BF109 "Emil" wasnt a superior enemy to it. Good pilot could out fly 109 E with I-16. It had two major weak points, weak and carburated engine and 7.62 MGs. But it was hard for German pilots to kill I-16 with good pilot, Emil wasnt that good turner and couldnt slow down as fast as I-16, so soviets used "step on the brakes and shoo"t tactics to fight BF109. Friedrich and especially Gustav rendered I-16 obsolete.

[tommiatkins]

@MadIgor1 Sorry. Thats just your opinion.The Emil outclassed it in service ceiling, rate of climb, acceleration and, crucially, in horizontal and diving speed,Polikarpovs could only defend each other by forming a defensive circle. 700 were destroyed in 48 hours, by the end of June only 600 servicable ones were left. From 3000m upwards the Br109B had complete mastery of the Rata in Spain. The Emil just tore it to shreds. I like the I16. Its my favorite plane. But it couldnt fight 109's at all.

[MadIgor1]

@tommiatkins well Emil was faster but I-16 was much better turner. Of corse good German pilot dictated the conditions of duel, but the outcome was not always clear for Emil. I spoke to former soviet pilot who flew in early stages of war. His Mig was destroyed in first hour of war so he had to fly I-16. He said that he shot down two 109s and one Stuka before injured so he was trasfered to pilot school as a instructor. His trick was to wait for 109 attack then do quick left/right pedal kick and..

[MadIgor1]

@tommiatkins ... this slowed him down so the fast 109 shot bypassed him. At that point he was already running on full throttle (while German pilot was cutting his to match speed) so he had some time window to shoot. When he was able to hit 109s radiator he could finish off the 109 easy. His wish was better armament and 100-150 more HP for engine and even Friedrich would be on pair target for him. His name was Vitalij Kravchenko, if I right remember.

[MrJp990]

@angryace13 Nothing compared to the i-15 and i-153... but then again they were bi planes

[YOUBETCHA21]

did you know that the elevators and ailerons are fabric?

[login098hoywty]

I will make in the near future a film about this airplane of an old newsreel. Also I will translate into English a sound track

[login098hoywty]

I will make in the near future a film about this airplane of an old newsreel. Also I will translate into English a sound track

[login098hoywty]

I-16 An excellent airplane. How this airplane has appeared in Texas? It could not find simply burnt down or destroyed. The percale skin long is not stored. A legendary airplane. I it saw only in films. It is a symbol of bravery of Russian pilots. Flying by this primitive airplane our pilots have destroyed many Germans

[soakchips]

this airplane was state-of-the-art when it was first produced, it dominated the fascists in the skies of spain and china.

[login098hoywty]

It not long dominated in Spain. Later in Spain have appeared Bf. 109D I-16 Our fighter could not compete with them had weak arms

[opmdevil]

Well, yes. In Spain it dominated the skies until the introduction of BF-109. And in china it was dominant until the introduction of Zero.

[swarogman]

I-16 Type 24 had 2x20mm ShVAK cannons. I wouldnt call that weak.

[jango1968]

rip off the gee bee why dont ya

[goodspeedy666]

Spanish loved this plane :D

[login098hoywty]

Fine!!! Where still remained I-16? In Russia there is no operational airplane

[WyntKidd]

This is in a museum in Everett, Wa, USA, near the Boeing plant at Paine Field airport.

[GerbilEssences]

There are 3 restored to flying condition at Wanaka New Zealand.

[pzl104wilga35]

one does exist in Germany with D-registration too!

[loosezilla]

i see some I-16 in australia. 3 I-16 plane with some idiotic "like russian" signs aboard

[Rikki0]

The Lone Star Air Museum in Galveston, Texas had a flying I-16 on display about 5 years ago. Haven't been back there since, so I don't know if it's still there or not. It might just have been on loan, but I personally saw it there.

[YOUBETCHA21]

the i-16 your talking about is now residing in midland texas home of the Commemorative Air Force.

[Rikki0]

Thank you, youbetcha21.  I went to the Lone Star Air Museum site after I made my post and saw that the I-16 was not listed as either permanent or visiting at this time. Was wondering what happened to it.

[YOUBETCHA21]

Yes sir we bought the plane, flew it up here and put a display up on it, idk y they dont fly it anymore

[jetdog95]

they fly her i was just there a couple weeks ago

[YOUBETCHA21]

haha  at the caf no they dont who do you think you are i freaking work there retard

[jetdog95]

they fly her becasue ive seen it happen you dont have your facts right

[kakadz89]

Very nice video with two very beautifull fighters of World War 2. ;)

[baudalair1]

WOW two of my favorite planes of all time side by side :)

[CurtisWildebeest]

I RATA this video 5 stars.. :)

[yamahonkawazuki]

@CurtisWildebeest are not easy to fly. they maneouver very well. i fly them in simulators. which are based upon aircraft physics as in what works, what doesnt. but yes tehy are quite fun to fly. to me they look like an american Gee-Bee. werent tehy made around the same time?

[2002And]

@CurtisWildebeest Ha, ha, ha.. I get it.. :)

[Zvesda]

@CurtisWildebeest

What stars now?

[Pablo221sp]

this airplane does not have a motor shevston m-62 of 1,000 HP?

[Mindundicat]

is mosca!!!!

Visca la República!

[trackCdental]

isnt Rata, its Mosca

Rata (rat in english) is a term used by the spanish fascists

[subbass32]

The Museum it is in refers to it as a Rata, so thats how I labeled it...

[trackCdental]

What Museum? .... need better information

In the Spanish civil war mosca its used by the republican, the fascist dont know her name and call rata (despectively)

Please visit the F.I.O. Fundación Infante de Orleans, and look the Mosca

[Nlangkirby135]

@subbass32 In Soviet era Russia, the VVS called it the Ishak (translated as mule or donkey) and later, they affectionately named it Ishachka (or little Mule or little donkey). The Finnish people called it Siipiorava (which literally means flying squirrel).

[AragonDubs]

@subbass32

What museum? Ignorant...

[subbass32]

Its the Flying Heritage Museum at Paine Field, Everett, Wa, USA, about 30 miles north of Seattle.  The collection belongs to Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. They fly a pair of warbirds every couple of weeks in the summer. Very cool!

[trackCdental]

@subbass32

This plane was never drive in combat by Finns, Americans, Germans, Swedes, etc.........

Rata is the Spanish name of rat, in English, perhaps are you Spanish?

Colloquial name here (working class, not fascist class) is Mosca (Moscow) like it or not, but you can call as they please

[trackCdental]

@trackCdental Not are for you, subbass32 ;)

[Budennuy]

In Russia i-16 is called "Ishachok" ("ишачок") - small burro

[jastrebok]

@trackCdental Sure and republic called it Mosca so it is a nickname as well.

[quevlsdi]

@trackCdental And called "Mosca" (Fly in english) by the spanish Republicans!

Not all spanish people were fascist mate ;)

[Fritztoons]

@trackCdental

My grandfather called these Polykarpovs Rata as well, as did all the other Wehrmacht and even the defending Russian soldiers on the eastern fron in WW2

Rute nickname given by soldiers. That´s a fact.

[OldBleihagel]

@trackCdental

From Wikipedia: ...it was called the Rata (Rat) by the Nationalists or Mosca (Fly) by the Republicans. The Finnish nickname for I-16 was Siipiorava ("Flying Squirrel")

[trackCdental]

@OldBleihagel

This plane was never drive in combat by Finns, Americans, Germans, Swedes, etc.........

Rata is the Spanish name of rat, in English, perhaps are you Spanish?

Colloquial name here (working class, not fascist class) is Mosca (Moscow) like it or not, but you can call as they please

[FFulmenTheFinnish]

@trackCdental No it is a Rata. That's how Finns, Germans etc. called it.

[kovu86]

probably because it is similar to the GB racer of the late 30's early 40's

[yuzikatou]

エンジンがでかいだけに離発着は難しそう、力だけはありそうだけ­ど。

[ellerykentarosu]

よわそｗ

[freiherrudet]

Damn I can't stand commies, but why does that plane look like it'd be so fun to fly? I like that little crapper.